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Speaker 1: Now we're taking away, put it in and let the

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Speaker 2: by dream Finders Homes. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: Don't have a shot. Trevor Lawrence on The Up and

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Speaker 5: Of course, off s an edition, happy.

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Speaker 2: To be here, glad to have you. Always were you

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Speaker 2: listening to this?

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Speaker 5: I cut the back end of it.

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Speaker 2: She gets it. Yeah, apparently I'm an idiot. I don't

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Speaker 5: We all embarrassed for you.

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Speaker 2: JP clearly like, well, I don't know what I'm missing,

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Speaker 3: I think it's just about kind of owning your section

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Speaker 2: Correct, Because don't you do that anyway though?

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Speaker 2: What did you think of?

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Speaker 2: Your rear end mode.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and so for example, let's go back to past

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Speaker 1: If you know, and Dave Caldwell turned in his own list,

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Speaker 5: Well, JP doesn't trust a lot of things. Conspiracy theory, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think it. I think it would provide value.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got another we got thirty more myths.

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Speaker 3: NFL, absolutely, and this is probably the most important time

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Speaker 5: So he'll have every opportunity to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I think what you're saying by cater to him means,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs help.

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Speaker 1: And you know when when the day one started for

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Speaker 1: him on Urban Meyer, which was a complete and utter catastrophe,

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Speaker 1: that was tough because they were kind of expecting him

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Speaker 1: to be magic and it was a very unhealthy environment.

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Speaker 1: So that was kind of a wasted year. And then

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Press Taylor's offense very quarterback centric. It

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Speaker 1: was a past first offense, clearly without doubt, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think Trevor was ready for that, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks that aren't ready for Look, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: needed help in the Super Bowl, didn't he did I

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Speaker 1: mean did he not? I mean ran the ball if

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Speaker 1: they could run the ball in the Super Bowl, which

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Speaker 1: they did not, I mean Patrick Mahomes couldn't shoulder the load.

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Speaker 1: And so you need to be able to develop that

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Speaker 1: part of the offense. And I think Kai is dead

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Speaker 1: on the money when she's saying that develop an offense

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Speaker 1: around him, which means based on what he can and

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Speaker 1: can't do yet, and then the more he can do,

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Speaker 1: then the more you open the offense up to him.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, Yes, new mindset, new era of defensive Jaguars football

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Speaker 2: feels like sure.

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Speaker 3: I think we need to go as far away from

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Speaker 3: last season with the defense as we can do, not

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Speaker 3: in terms of players necessarily, but just in.

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Speaker 5: Terms of the way that they did things.

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Speaker 3: And I think what I heard, at least from the

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Speaker 3: presser and what we've heard from some of the coaches

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Speaker 3: so far, is that they're going to have X dictations

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Speaker 3: for them and they're not saying, hey, we're going to

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Speaker 3: do it this way no matter what. I felt like

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Speaker 3: a lot of the a lot of last year we

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Speaker 3: were like Nielsen was rotating people and doing the things

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Speaker 3: that he wanted to do, whether or not it was working.

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Speaker 3: And I understand you want to stick to your skill

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Speaker 3: what you think is your strong suit. That's fine, but

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Speaker 3: if it's not working, you need to adapt a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And I also think there's something to be said for

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Speaker 3: adapting to the opponent you're playing. Especially on defense, you

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Speaker 3: need to adapt your style or whatever to what the

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Speaker 3: offense is going to be doing. So I like the

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Speaker 3: way that.

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Speaker 5: It's being discussed.

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Speaker 3: I also like the way that we've heard about accountability

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Speaker 3: and kind of expectations of people. Not necessarily, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you want to play to people's skill set, but also

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Speaker 3: if you're playing that position, I need you to do

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Speaker 3: certain things and if you can't do that, then somebody

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Speaker 3: else is going to have to do it.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's.

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Speaker 3: I think that needs to be put in people's minds

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Speaker 3: that I have to be able to do these things

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Speaker 3: to keep my job and not just I'll be doing

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Speaker 3: this no matter what because this is my job.

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Speaker 2: Doing my job.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for that, you know, because this new era,

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Speaker 1: I think is uh. The old era was one of

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Speaker 1: not knowing what the hell you were supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say that whose false is

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Speaker 1: that coaching? I put that on coaching. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's your directive, right, I mean, that's the teaching part

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Speaker 1: of it. I mean, and it's not all coaching. I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of being a little bit top players. It's

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Speaker 1: all both. But it's but you know, here's the here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, JP. You gave up the most explosives in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And the reason that you gave

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Speaker 1: up the most explosive in the National Football League for

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Speaker 1: for the most part, was you were having mental breakdowns.

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Speaker 1: You had mes mental errors and you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have that the year before.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's kind of the same player as the year before.

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Speaker 1: So what changed, well, I mean the coaching staff change

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and the one thing that I love about Campanilli is

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Speaker 1: where he comes from. You watched Green Bay and we

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Speaker 1: obviously got a chance to see Green Bay here in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville this year play the Jaguars. The calling card of

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense is that they left no open areas

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Speaker 1: with their defense. Well coached, fundamentally sound, physical, played fast.

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Speaker 1: Give me that all day long off coming off a

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Speaker 1: year after what we just saw arguably the worst defense

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, arguably the worst defense in

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Speaker 1: franchise history. I'll take what Green Bay was doing all day.

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Speaker 2: Was it green Bay personnel better than the Jaguars defensive

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Speaker 2: personnel last year? Just as it on paper?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great debate, it's a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: I would say green Bay was a little bit better

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Speaker 1: for the most part, but it wasn't that much better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not to the point where the Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: at the bottom in green Bay. Were were they ranked

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Speaker 1: that last year? It's out of curiosity. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: rankings and pff and let me.

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Speaker 2: Turn in my scouting report. Yeah, rank them for me.

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Speaker 2: We'll review it.

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Speaker 1: Three years awesome, I'll look it up real quickly. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna real curious to see where that is.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, that was the calling card of green Bay.

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Speaker 1: They have a really good defensive tackle. They have one

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Speaker 1: good defensive end, a good linebacker. But I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: not like they're overloaded with talent.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay on defense last year third in the NFL

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Speaker 2: in total d eleventh against the run, second against the pass,

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Speaker 2: first on third down. There you go eighteen percent on

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Speaker 2: third down. That's pretty credit.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think they're a little a little better

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Speaker 1: in some areas talent wise, But the biggest thing is

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Speaker 1: with Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: That's postseason. I'm sorry hanging on green Bay fifth, seventh, thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: same top.

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Speaker 1: Of the yes, but what they had their performance in

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Speaker 1: the back end, I think, and I think their talent

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Speaker 1: in the back end definitely better than this teams.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, clearly. My frustration was Obviously we talked about

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Speaker 3: the exposive plays. That's been an issue forever.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was as if it was never addressed though, it

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Speaker 3: would always be the problem, and then they would just continue,

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Speaker 3: whether it's the same players or however you want to do,

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Speaker 3: whatever you wanted to change. There should have been some change,

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Speaker 3: and we didn't see any change until like two or

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Speaker 3: three weeks left in the season.

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Speaker 1: In other words, if Kai makes a mistake, do we

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Speaker 1: make Kyle a defensive captain next week? Yeah, she's made

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Speaker 1: three weeks of mental layers, so do we make her

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Speaker 1: a captain the next week?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of stuff that was happening exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's just I hate to say that.

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Speaker 5: You can't say you're.

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Speaker 3: Holding people accountable and you're doing stuff like that. So

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Speaker 3: it was and I'm sure fans felt this way as well.

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Speaker 3: It's just frustrating watchings say feel like you can identify

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Speaker 3: a problem. It's so glaring that you can identify a

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Speaker 3: problem and that they're not choosing to do anything different.

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Speaker 2: We get the rankings correct on the Green Bay defense

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Speaker 2: last year the postseason, I was like, you knows that

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Speaker 2: up to you mess it up? Well I did. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: got a roll today. Fifth overall defense, seventh, rushing defense, thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: passing defense, twelfth in the league on third down thirty

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Speaker 2: eight percent and nineteen point nine points per game. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's good defense, really good.

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Speaker 5: We would love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, take that any day. To take some of that,

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Speaker 2: it'd be good.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and get bet you got to get

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Speaker 1: better talent, but then you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: play a more solid, fundamentally sound system. Final thought with

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Speaker 1: the KAI and GM interviews, one more tomorrow and then

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Speaker 1: we should have a decision by the weekend, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have to write the combines next week,

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Speaker 3: so you got to get somebody, get send somebody up

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Speaker 3: to Indie next week. So I think they've they've definitely

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Speaker 3: reached the home stretch at this point. I'm busy in

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Speaker 3: the building as we know, so I'm excited to see

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Speaker 3: I Obviously we're not privy to exactly what that is.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure as Jeff was mentioning, it's a lot of

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Speaker 3: when you meet them and kind of what they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Valdment has been in the past, because we don't know, right,

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Speaker 3: So like you can look at how where they worked,

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Speaker 3: what the drafts look like, but you need to know

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Speaker 3: what their roles were in that.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, I'm excited to see what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun seeing Bisselli walking in and the photos

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Speaker 2: out on X of him walking in with these candidate

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Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he can't wear flip flops anymore.

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Speaker 2: Though, thank goodness, my gosh, to win for all of us,

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Speaker 2: it certainly is I can't you wear flip flops? I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's his building, you can do what he wants.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see, I mean it's still like what the

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Speaker 3: first couple of weeks. We'll see if it evolves.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he went enough games. You can

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Speaker 2: wear whatever the heck you.

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Speaker 1: Want, right, I mean flip flops, so you know, have

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Speaker 1: a have its moments when they're appropriate.

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Speaker 2: At the beach.

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Speaker 1: Yeezeh JP looks And here's the thing, do you guys

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Speaker 1: have a favorite?

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Speaker 2: Do you guys have in the pas?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: I don't know them, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But if you knew who they were wanting to pick.

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Speaker 3: It was almost as if I had some statistics then

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Speaker 3: I would be able to make a better judgment about

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Speaker 3: who right.

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Speaker 2: That's great, Kai, have a great weekend, k can you

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Speaker 2: stick around for another segment?

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Speaker 5: Handled?

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Speaker 2: I think to take the rest of the show off

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Speaker 2: YouTube can handle it. How about that? Thanks? Kay, hy

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Speaker 2: Stevens joining us in the studio. Back in the moment,

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Speaker 6: You're trying to see if their vision for building the team,

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Speaker 6: Matthew's division at the head coach, and even Tony Bucelli's

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Speaker 6: vision as the executive vice president. You want to make

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Speaker 6: sure that everyone is in lockstep and the team building process.

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Speaker 6: They're in lockstep when it comes to the type of

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Speaker 6: players that you want on the roster. And then you

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Speaker 6: What do we do if we have disagreements.

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Speaker 2: In terms of this player and that player.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman Happy Hour from the Hyundai studios at the

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Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center, TINTENXL, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube and

657
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Speaker 2: here we go. The NFL Scouting Combine coming up next

658
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Speaker 2: week in Indianapolis. What do the players start getting there?

659
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Speaker 2: So they'll be I think you're going there, right, Yeah,

660
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be there. Osh will be there. We've got

661
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Speaker 2: a big group going to cover it from Radio Row

662
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Speaker 2: and some behind the scenes coverage of the executives and

663
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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that we'll get to a little

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Speaker 2: bit later in this offseason, but looking forward to some

665
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Speaker 2: really outstanding access to the combine. Actually, So we'll be

666
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Speaker 2: there starting Monday. We'll be on the air with the

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Speaker 2: coaching GM I think they're at the press conferences on Tuesday,

668
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Speaker 2: we'll carry those. They'll make the Radio Row rounds that day.

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Speaker 2: We'll have live show Wednesday, another one Thursday with Happy

670
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Speaker 2: Hour guests on those and might be a little surprised

671
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Speaker 2: for the Thursday Happy Hour show from Radio Row. We'll

672
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Speaker 2: get to that coming up maybe next week. Maybe could

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Speaker 2: be an interesting reunion sort we'll see, we'll get to that.

674
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Speaker 2: So that's that's all coming up. That's next week, and

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00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: they'll be you know, there's a lot of work to

676
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Speaker 2: be done for this coaching staff too, and personnel staff,

677
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: so they aren't gonna waste much time. They're gonna be,

678
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Speaker 2: you know, when they're not talking to prospects and things,

679
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Speaker 2: they'll I think probably have meetings and things on their

680
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: own where they're trying to get this offense and defense

681
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Speaker 2: together and ready for when the players come in.

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Speaker 1: Well that and then also as a as a coaching staff,

683
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Speaker 1: you know, you're you're also trying to watch some of

684
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Speaker 1: the prospects because I think you know what Bucky talked about,

685
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Speaker 1: and he was spot on about getting everybody in lockstep together.

686
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Speaker 2: And in order to be in.

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Speaker 1: Lockstep together, everybody kind of has to share what they

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Speaker 1: believe is an opinion on certain players. And the coaching

689
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Speaker 1: staff is part of that opinion because the coaching staff

690
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Speaker 1: has certain players that they want for their system, and

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Speaker 1: then the GM's job is there to support that with

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Speaker 1: the best players.

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Speaker 2: In the right players. But the coaches, you want to

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Speaker 2: have their input on it.

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Speaker 1: And so the coaches are going to be watching prospects

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Speaker 1: as well as talking to prospects, and then they're also

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Speaker 1: going to be working on their scheme, their off season schedule,

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Speaker 1: the free agency that's coming up, which is literally right

699
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: around the corner, we'll be here before you know it,

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Speaker 1: which is going to be the first way of improving

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Speaker 1: your roster. So there's a lot to do, a lot

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Speaker 1: to do, especially when you don't have a GM in place.

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Speaker 1: But once that GM is in place, then there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of rowing that needs to be done together to

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Speaker 1: get to where you want to be.

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Speaker 2: Talking about free agency, there was an article yesterday the

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Speaker 2: NFL salary cap for actions could be twenty to twenty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars higher.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's like every year it takes this

710
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Speaker 1: significant jump and you're like, when's it just gonna slow

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Speaker 1: down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's slow down, and it hasn't, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then I was reading an article today that the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers are considering selling some of the ownership

715
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Speaker 1: ten percent of the team selling it. The valuation they're

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Speaker 1: talking about with the forty nine ers is like nine billion.

717
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Speaker 1: I mean, so you're talking nine hundred million dollars in

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Speaker 1: raising capital by selling ten percent straight cash.

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Speaker 2: And so you sit there and you go, my god,

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Speaker 2: I mean nine hundred million, which would have bought you

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Speaker 2: three franchises when the Jaguars came into existence. And I

722
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Speaker 2: mean three really good franchises. It's just crazy where the

723
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Speaker 2: numbers have gone. But that's where they are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's when you've got the most popular sport,

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Speaker 1: when you have the most watched television programming, when you

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Speaker 1: have is it like forty eight of the top fifties

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Speaker 1: shows every year of football?

728
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Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, I mean it's it's not only the top programs,

729
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Speaker 2: it's the top sport, the top programs period. You know,

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Speaker 2: I mean who watches TV anymore? I mean a lot

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Speaker 2: of people don't. Not the TV is the way we

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Speaker 2: used to watch it. But here's the one thing that

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Speaker 2: people keep tuning in on football, the NFL. College football,

734
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Speaker 2: by the way, depends the way you are, depends where

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Speaker 2: you are. What's that guy's name that went to Miami Beck,

736
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Speaker 2: Carson Beach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from maandar in high school. Actually, what are

738
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Speaker 1: you doing, Carson Beck?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? Whatever do you mean? Okay, he

740
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Speaker 2: was at Georgia, right, he was Okay? And and this

741
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: is this is a young man that I would love

742
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Speaker 2: to be able to reach for me just called his house.

743
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, and I mean something. He needs

744
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: some help, okay, because when you go to college with

745
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: the nil okay, and there's nothing wrong with I'm all

746
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Speaker 2: for making for college players making money, not against that whatsoever.

747
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Speaker 2: But you don't go to college to make money and

748
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Speaker 2: then to buy a Lamborghini and then a Mercedes Benz

749
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Speaker 2: and then have it stolen out of your yard in Florida,

750
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Speaker 2: South Florida. Who says he bought him, Well, if it

751
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Speaker 2: was they were his, then I mean he's probably Here's

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Speaker 2: the other thing, JP. If whether he bought them or

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Speaker 2: whether he's leasing them or whether he's renting them, that's

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Speaker 2: not that's not spending your money wisely. But it's his money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it won't be his money for long.

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Speaker 1: You keep buying Lamborghinis or leasing Lamborghini and buying Mercedes

757
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Speaker 1: or leasing Mercedes, You're not gonna have much money for long, buddy,

758
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Speaker 1: Keep on spending it, okay, because one day, if all

759
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you're not playing in the National Football League, okay,

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Speaker 1: your eligibility is gonna be up, which means you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be making any nil money.

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Speaker 2: Then what are you gonna do? You'd like to be

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Speaker 2: able to convert that four or five year old Lamborghini

764
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Speaker 2: back to the original mount that you spend for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't lose much though, as soon as you buy it.

766
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Speaker 2: Soon as you buy it and you drive it off

767
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Speaker 2: the lot, the value at boom down. It's just it's

768
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Speaker 2: just like, what are you doing? Man to Somebody will

769
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Speaker 2: give him some proper advice on setting yourself up for

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Speaker 2: the long term instead of the near term. I mean,

771
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Speaker 2: do you really need a Lamborghini and a Mercedes Benz

772
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Speaker 2: to drive? How far is to drive on campus? I

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00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: don't know where he lives. I have no idea. You

774
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: can ride a bike cool Gables, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean by yourself a shwim bro okay, and if

776
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: you got a girl down there, okay, get a tandem shwim.

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Speaker 2: Well, she got her car stolen too, apparently which one

778
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: was hers? Some suv is another car a different car.

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Speaker 2: It is probably all three got stolen and they found

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Speaker 2: hers apparently, according to the story. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 2: today's financial literacy. I read that conversation. What are you doing, man,

782
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Let's come back. I don't know

783
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Speaker 2: what the heck we're gonna talk about when we come back.

784
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Speaker 2: I have no idea that could be anything. Well, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to help a guy out JP. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing that I always, I

787
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Speaker 1: always was, would get.

788
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Speaker 2: So frustrated with sometimes.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have certain guys that you know, you

790
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: try to help them out to save some money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll give you a story and we get back.

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Speaker 2: You give you any story you want. Okay, We're on

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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that I think about it in the

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Speaker 7: sense of age being ready.

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Speaker 2: Because people typically.

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Speaker 7: Will ask about the experiences and what makes you ready,

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Speaker 7: And I think that I've been unbelievably fortunate should be

799
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Speaker 7: around really good people and have different unique experiences, whether

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Speaker 7: it's coaching on defense or spending time with Kevin o'collam

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Speaker 7: Minnesota or my time in Carolina. So I think it's

802
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Speaker 7: more so the experiences that I've had that have brought

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Speaker 7: me to this point, and I really can't control those

804
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Speaker 7: things in terms of the number of my age. So

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Speaker 7: It's not something that I concern myself a ton with,

806
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Speaker 7: but I would say I definitely try to make take

807
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Speaker 7: every measure possible to ensure that I'm doing everything I

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Speaker 7: can to be prepared for whatever responsibility is thrown my way.

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Speaker 2: That is Grant Yudinski, the Jaguars offensive coordinator, on the

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Speaker 2: ozone podcast It's Back. It's something the Official Jaguars Podcast

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Speaker 2: network should be up soon. If not already, check it out.

812
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Speaker 2: You'll hear the conversation with John Oser and the new

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Speaker 2: Jaguars OC Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour j Ap

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Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logman. We're at the Hondai Studios, Miller

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Speaker 2: Electric Center ten TENXL, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube and

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by dream Finders Homes, official

817
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. A busy time ahead, of

818
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Speaker 2: course in the NFL. A lot of important dates coming

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Speaker 2: up around the National Football League. The scouting combine of course,

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Speaker 2: starting next week going through March third, and Indy. March

821
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Speaker 2: fourth is the franchise or transition player deadline. If you're

822
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: going to do that, got to get it done by

823
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Speaker 2: March fourth. March ten through twelve the free agency negotiation period,

824
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Speaker 2: the air quote legal tampering period. It's a two day

825
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Speaker 2: actually a three day window up until the start of

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Speaker 2: the league year. It's March twelfth at four o'clock Eastern time.

827
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Speaker 2: That's when free agency officially begins. March thirty through April

828
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Speaker 2: second is the NFL annual meeting known as the Owners'

829
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Speaker 2: Meetings down in Palm Beach. This year, April seventh is

830
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: the beginning of the offseason program for teams with new

831
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Speaker 2: head coaches, including the Jaguars, two weeks ahead of all

832
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Speaker 2: the rest of the teams in the NFL Draft April

833
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Speaker 2: twenty four through twenty six in Green Bay, Wisconsin. So

834
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Speaker 2: the calendar never stops in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild a draft in Green Bay. Yeah,

836
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Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty cool. We will send some representatives from

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Dot. Yeah, Brian's usually Brian Goes.

838
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: Goes, especially if it's a top five.

839
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Speaker 1: Most likely the pick is in is there, So there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people staying in Milwaukee. You

841
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: don't think Appleton has enough for room, I mean no, no,

842
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Speaker 1: you get Airbnb's house across this there's gonna be a

843
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of airbnbs in Green Bay, right, Yeah, there's gonna

844
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: be a lot of people that are going to say,

845
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: you know what, We're just gonna go ahead and pack

846
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Speaker 1: up and move.

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Speaker 2: No, that would be fun like to one day be

848
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Speaker 2: able to tailgate in those houses right across the street

849
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: from Lambeau. Yeah, that'd be frodge doors open. Yeah, I've

850
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: seen photos of it. It's awesome. Yeah.

851
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: But put the TVs outside and just listen to the

852
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: roar of the stadium. Come on, the only problem is

853
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: is that TV has a delay, so you're gonna hear

854
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: the roar before they actually see what happened through Oh

855
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: something's going on. Yeah, which is not exactly the optimum

856
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: set up. But uh but yeah, but I you know, look,

857
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: it's not far away and rotating this draft everywhere. By

858
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Speaker 1: the way, Pittsburgh next year. Yeah, and it'll be interesting

859
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Speaker 1: to see how many prospects actually attend.

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Speaker 2: The draft this year. Yeah. It's a good one. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's not New York. It's not you know, this uh

862
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: attractive big city Vegas, you know, yeah, I mean, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: I think shed Her Sanders has already said that he's

864
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Speaker 1: not gonna be in attendance, which, look, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times when when the draft

866
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Speaker 1: rolls around, you want to be able to celebrate with,

867
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, the people that helped you get there, friends, family, coaches, teammates,

868
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: and when you go to the draft. It's not like

869
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: you can just bring all them along. I mean you can,

870
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: but that's not very talking about being you know, being

871
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: wise with your money like we.

872
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: Just talked about.

873
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: But but I mean, I think it's going to be

874
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: interesting to see how how it turns out. But I mean,

875
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: look after watching it for the last couple of years,

876
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: when it's been at different venues and the great job

877
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: that every venue has been able to do with the Draft,

878
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Green Bays version. Hopefully we'll get

879
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: it here sometimes new stadium and all that hotel and

880
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: if there's development nearby that would be the key. Well,

881
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, where was it at last year.

882
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember where they've been the last couple

883
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: of years. I mean, Cleveland, Cleveland, I don't know.

884
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's I mean, some of these places are

885
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: getting a couple hundred thousand people. One one was Cleveland

886
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 2: twenty two was Vegas, twenty three was Kansas City, twenty

887
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: four was Detroit, Detroit. This year's Green Bay, Pittsburgh in

888
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: twenty six, Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be Nashville. Twenty nineteen

889
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: was really the one. I mean that on the Broadway,

890
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Yeah, they killed it.

891
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean there's certain cities that are just made for

892
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: hosting some of the events like that, and Nashville. I mean, look,

893
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: like I said before, I'm a huge fan of Nashville.

894
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, every year when we go on the road

895
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: and we visit all of the teams around the National

896
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: Football League that are on the schedule, Nashville is one

897
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: of the I'm very glad that that's in our division

898
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: so we can go there every year.

899
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: Right.

900
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: It's a great town. It's great Town's got a lot

901
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: of great things to see and to listen to, and

902
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's centrally located, which is you know,

903
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: that's a big deal.

904
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: If there wasn't that darn football game on Sunday, it'd

905
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: be one heck of a weekend. Yeah yeah, you know,

906
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: I mean you know what I mean, Yeah, that's u

907
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: and it's easy for fans to go. I mean there's

908
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: a you can get it. I think there's a nine

909
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: stop on one of the airlines to Nashville here from

910
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: Javille to Nashville. Yeah, it's easy. Even it's a healthy drive,

911
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: but it's drivable. I mean it's a poke, but I

912
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: mean it's it's you know, that's a pretty good drive. Yeah,

913
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: but it's it's doable for a lot of Southwest I

914
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: think directors. I think they does or still does used

915
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: to have one of the other direct flights.

916
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: But that's that's a great city. Pittsburgh. I think that'll

917
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: be cool just.

918
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: Because I mean, look it's it's Pittsburgh, man, I mean,

919
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: you got history there with the Steel Curtain. I'm curious

920
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: where in Pittsburgh is going to do it though, Yeah,

921
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a great question. You know, it

922
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: felt like there's a theater right next to them. Nobody,

923
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: nobody is really doing it in one particular venue because

924
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean what they're doing is they're building the venue

925
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: outdoors to be able to handle the masses. Yeah, you know,

926
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: so I don't think it so much depends on a

927
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: city that has a venue that can handle it, because

928
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: they're just building them temporarily. Point Park. That's where they

929
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: might have it, right there on the point, on the

930
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: confluence with the fountain and the whole thing.

931
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: Why not easy to get to infrastructure already in place,

932
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, downtown, right, yeah, I mean, it'd be perfect.

933
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: Makes sense to me have the stadium.

934
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: Also, they didn't ask me there attractions there at the stadium.

935
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: It'll be fun. What are you gonna watch any of

936
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: the combine workouts? Do you get into that? No? No, no,

937
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm not.

938
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I put it this way. I catch the highlights,

939
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to tune in and watch watch

940
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: it and grind it out.

941
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: Give me the.

942
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: Highlights, give me the important information. I'd rather spend that

943
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: time watching players play football as opposed to run around

944
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: in shorts and underwear. Mean, I mean, now, a few

945
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: of the top end prospects, you know that, you know,

946
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: the most draft prognosticators are going to have in the

947
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: top ten or fifteen. I'll pay close attention to what

948
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: they're doing, just because obviously the Jaguars picking at five

949
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: gonna have something to say about you know, those players.

950
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: But for the most part, again, I'd rather watch players

951
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: play football real quick.

952
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: How many times right now? Could you be expressed to

953
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: twenty five me right now?

954
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 6: Yep.

955
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: Eight okay, eight. Maybe I don't want to call you out.

956
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just curious. Maybe.

957
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't even want to do it because I'd

958
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: be scared about popping a muscle something.

959
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: It would be on camera too.

960
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you man in a couple of weeks, yeah,

961
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: and I'll work on my.

962
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: Two twenty three flogging it. I'm JP Shadwick. Thanks for listening.

963
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour.