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Speaker 1: Mormon parents made fifteen year old daughter sign a contract

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Speaker 1: in order to get a phone number because she got

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Speaker 1: a job.

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Speaker 2: Seems like a little bit of helicopter parenting. Yeah, whereas

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Speaker 2: they say in Mormon parenting book Parenting.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be some like weird

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Speaker 1: like some analogy of like whatever the guy.

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Speaker 2: Joseph, Joseph I forgot his name Joseph something for God

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Speaker 2: as well, that's a smith Smith, very most white sounding name.

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Speaker 1: Go to Joe's like the Theanos of white names.

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Speaker 3: All all of.

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Speaker 1: The gems are gems we have alrighty, So super long

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Speaker 1: story short. My parents are on more of the extreme

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Speaker 1: side of Mormonism, Okay, so much so that I nineteen

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Speaker 1: female moved out the day I turned eighteen. I had

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Speaker 1: members from my ward, which is like their church, asking

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Speaker 1: if siblings and I were Okay. A few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: my sister got a job from a company owned by

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Speaker 1: Mormons and is heavy in all caps supported by Mormons.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I wonder what the company is? Yeah, me too,

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious.

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Speaker 1: My sisters then had enough reason to demand a phone

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Speaker 1: from my parents so she could get the job. Fast

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Speaker 1: forward today, and this bullshit is happening.

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Speaker 2: I mean also, just like it makes total sense to

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Speaker 2: get a phone one maybe earlier than fourteen. Fourteen is

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Speaker 2: fine too, but fourteen's probably good. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 2: think that's when I really got my phone, maybe a

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Speaker 2: year or two younger. Yeah, but you need a phone

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Speaker 2: if you're going to be working.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a fair Yeah, that's a fair

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Speaker 1: thing to find as a parent. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how it went down because of me being an ex Mormon,

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Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to talk to my siblings that much. Geez.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a lot. But I do know that

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Speaker 1: she wasn't allowed to disagree at all with anything or

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Speaker 1: the deal was off. This is actually pretty tame compared

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Speaker 1: to what it was like growing up. Mom threatened to

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Speaker 1: have the pantry.

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Speaker 3: Padlocked the pantry, so.

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Speaker 1: I guess like basically you don't get any food. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty insane. Wow, my sister got an infection for not

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Speaker 1: getting any medication.

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Speaker 3: Because they're like anti medication anti as.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at some rate, whether it's a punishment or otherwise,

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Speaker 1: it seems like they did not deliver the meds and

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Speaker 1: I was told I'd be pulled out of school and

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Speaker 1: college if I didn't conform to the religion and to

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Speaker 1: their practices. We've dealt with racism, sexism, anti VAXX, anti gay,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. Dang, that's like the laundry list

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Speaker 1: of oppression.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, not a fun laundry list.

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Speaker 1: Not a fun laundry list. I have a ton of

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Speaker 1: stories I can share. I just thought this one was

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Speaker 1: a good eye roll and laugh. Back to the contract.

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Speaker 1: I agree with some of the rules. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's really weird to make a whole ass contract. Side note,

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Speaker 1: not nearly as severe, but my dad used to make

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Speaker 1: like contracts for us, like I will sweep my room

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Speaker 3: My dad did the same thing.

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Speaker 2: We had like contracts that he would write up and

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Speaker 2: I would have to sign, or like I used to

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Speaker 2: have to, like if I ever got in trouble, I

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Speaker 2: actually write like an essay on why I shouldn't do

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Speaker 2: it again. I remember I accidentally, like made a bomb

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Speaker 2: and my sister it blew up in my sister's hand.

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Speaker 1: And you accidentally made a bomb. Yeah, please explain.

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Speaker 2: So you know, like if you put dry ice in

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Speaker 2: a water bottle and mix it with water, it will

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, And so Christian I.

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Speaker 2: When we were like I don't know, like thirteen or

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Speaker 2: twelve or something, we put dry ice in the water

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Speaker 2: bottle and tossed it into the middle of the street

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Speaker 2: to you know, make it explode.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: My sister comes out at that time and she goes

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Speaker 2: over and she's like, I don't know, seven or something,

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Speaker 2: and she goes and she's like like, we're waiting for

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Speaker 2: it to explode, but it's not exploding. And Sophia's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: like I'm going to go up and like shake it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, Sofia, do not go up and shake it.

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Speaker 2: And she keeps walking towards and I'm like, Sofia, stop

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Speaker 2: and right when she picks it up, it explodes in

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Speaker 2: that shrapnel would.

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Speaker 3: Have not been good.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I had to write a paper about why

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Speaker 2: I should not make bombs and throw it into the street.

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Speaker 1: That one's not your fault, that one's not your fault.

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Speaker 1: Did it actually like hurt her? And anywhere?

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Speaker 2: It was just kind of like no, I mean she

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Speaker 2: heard her air drama bit, but how she tells it,

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Speaker 2: which is such bs and she's she adher's the story

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Speaker 2: to this day. Christian and I were making a bomb

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Speaker 2: in the backyard or in the front yard and we

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Speaker 2: car coming and she needed to move the the water

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Speaker 2: bottle away from the car so it wouldn't hurt the car.

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Speaker 2: And that doesn't make any sense because one, it was

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Speaker 2: in the gutter like right, so like we threw it

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Speaker 2: in the street and it rolled to the gutter, not

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Speaker 2: like inside, but it was like right next to it,

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Speaker 2: right yeah, right next to the curb. That doesn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense. And like what you're just gonna like where

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Speaker 2: are you gonna where are you gonna put it? Where

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Speaker 2: you're gonna put this? It was it was It was

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Speaker 2: no reason for you to pick that up, even if

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Speaker 2: it was like what, it's gonna blow up on a

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Speaker 2: car and the driver is gonna get like a little

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Speaker 2: spooked or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm team Sam on this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, I have to write an essay about that.

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Speaker 2: Uh well, actually Christian and I both had to write

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Speaker 2: about one of my friends, Christian. Yeah, there's my roommate. Now,

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Speaker 2: we both had to write the essay together, but Christian

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Speaker 2: did not contribute because group projects saw.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we know about those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had to write the whole paper myself.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well that sucks.

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Speaker 2: Actually I don't even know if I wrote that paper,

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Speaker 2: but I know it was a sign.

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Speaker 1: It was a sign.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a due date.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe you could turn it in like next

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Speaker 2: Say, yeah, yeah, dad, I have something for you. I

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Speaker 2: know it's a little late by ten years.

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Speaker 1: Back to OPI's contract. So Opie says, I just thought

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Speaker 1: it was really weird to make a whole ass contract.

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Speaker 1: Not as weird as you think.

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Speaker 2: Now you know it happens to other people. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: like a white people thing.

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Speaker 1: Then maybe that definitely could.

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Speaker 2: It sounds that sounds like something like we would be

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Speaker 2: made fun of on like twitters, like white people have

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Speaker 2: their kids signing contract, get them, getting them ready for

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Speaker 2: the work.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever drink slight side slight short side note?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever eat spaghetti with milk?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: That was another thing on a podcast that they discovered

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Speaker 1: that white people did which I also definitely ate spaghetti

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Speaker 1: and milk at one point, for sure, for sure, what

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Speaker 1: did you not just eat, like drink milk at dinner

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Speaker 1: spaghetti and you have spaghetti and milk.

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Speaker 2: No I drank milk and I have eaten spaghetti. I

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Speaker 2: was a big milk drinker. I drink and you didn't

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Speaker 1: No wo.

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Speaker 2: I even felt weird about putting milk and oatmeal. Really,

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Speaker 2: milk is for cereal and for drinking.

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Speaker 1: All right, those are those are I agree? I agree

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Speaker 1: it's weird, but I did it. Soun's good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't even drink. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the last time I've had like straight milk, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I only had that email now.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. So once again, back to this contract. Uh, there

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Speaker 1: are things on it like I will not look up porn.

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Speaker 1: I will not receive naked photographs when I am fourteen

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Speaker 1: years old. I mean, yeah, that's I mean, you don't

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Speaker 1: almost an age where it's like weird to like you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would tell my kids not to

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Speaker 2: send or receive nudes.

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Speaker 1: Not to send. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. The contract

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Speaker 1: maybe is the toe over there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, toe, the contract is weird. I think I would

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Speaker 2: should always try to avoid cheap dopamine, and so, like

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Speaker 2: like you know, if you're doing coke, right, getting a

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Speaker 1: It's not substantial. There's yea there.

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Speaker 2: And I think same with porn, right, there's no there's

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Speaker 2: no substance behind the dopamine. And so you're you're you're

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Speaker 2: generally cheap dopamine should be avoided. And so I would

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Speaker 2: think I would tell my kids, Like, from that perspective.

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Speaker 1: That is a fantastic lesson. I pray your teenager will

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Speaker 1: receive that. I am like chief with me, like fuck you, dad,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying no. Oh, And I can add friends to

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Speaker 1: the phone, but they may not be of the opposite

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Speaker 1: sexual orientation, but they meant gender.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's dumb. Yeah, what if you're you're

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Speaker 2: working with someone who's male.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, like like oh, like you just said, oh no,

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Speaker 1: I can't add you.

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Speaker 3: It was like bro, but we work together.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like those uh I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you've ever seen those text conversations where it's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: how's it going, and then the person says, I have

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Speaker 2: a boyfriend, and then they're like cool, So this is

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Speaker 2: what you're gonna be doing for the group project.

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Speaker 1: Although I will say, as someone being in a committed relationship,

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you're covering your bases, you do overstep a

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Speaker 1: little bit by accident.

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Speaker 2: Just imagining when like John goes out of anywhere as

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Speaker 2: to like any girl touched.

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Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend? Yeah, literally, they'll like that'll that'll

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Speaker 1: be like nine, I don't have to pay all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: we will finish this story, I promise you. And they

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Speaker 1: would go through the phones whenever they want, even when

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Speaker 1: I was almost eighteen. If she violates any of the

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Speaker 1: twenty two rules, she loses the phone. Twenty two rules

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Speaker 1: twenty two rules, sir, this is a contract.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, twenty two line items. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: If you have any red lines, talk to my lawyer.

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Speaker 1: And anytime she like messes up any of these twenty

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Speaker 1: two rules, she loses more and more phone time. If

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Speaker 1: it happens a fourth time, she loses is it permanently

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine like a therapist that's like doing all

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Speaker 1: She's on the straight and arrow, nice to everyone, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, Op seems like a great big sister. Definitely,

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Speaker 2: the contract is a bit much, yes, definitely a bit much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of them, you know, I think, are

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Speaker 2: good rules in general. You know, don't don't send her

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Speaker 2: received for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's that's definitely advice that that parents should give me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nlets's unless you're starting your Only Fans and it's bass. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's like the gonna be the new new parent there.

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Speaker 2: It's like, don't send her received used unless you know

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Speaker 2: you're an entrepreneur and you're trying to sell your body

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Speaker 2: for money. Above eighteen above eighteen yeah, right right right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was so weird. Sorry not to clarify talking about the.

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Speaker 1: Samuel DONNERD does not endorse your fourteen year old daughters

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