WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Stephen A. Smith Talks Colin Kaepernick Ben Simmons Making Time For His Daughters + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.680 Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.160 Morning, everybody, It's the j n V. Charlamagne, the gud 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.200 We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.600 in the building from Queens Steven A. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.160 Smith. Ladies and gentlemen, Let's go. How you feeling. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.520 I'm good man, how y'all doing Man's Black and Holly 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:22.040 favorite the Cowboys and three and one Man you know. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:25.640 Enjoy it, purchases tickets say that's the only thing, you know. 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.440 I got love for Charlamagne, But my god, I mean, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.520 I just I don't understand it. Man, Dallas Cowboys like 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.640 a virus. Man. I mean, you just can't get rid 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.000 of him. I mean, everywhere you go you see Dallas 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:40.120 Cowboys fence. I do not understand it. But you know 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.199 they got a damn good team this year for their 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.720 defense as elite their office. But it's still gonna come 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:45.600 down to deck. You know. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.239 You know that, right, you know that. I mean, it's 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.960 gonna be that moment. And I just want to get 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.159 because I want to look out for you, because y'all important, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:52.560 you know what I'm saying, And I don't want you 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.880 to just get into a state of depression. You know, 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.639 your yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, your enthusiasm just elevates, and 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.000 then that moment arrives and Dak's gotta come through and 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.120 it ain't. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.000 I agree with everything you say about Dak Prescott. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.600 I think your assessment at Dak Prescott on first take 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:10.840 is absolutely spot. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.440 I've never said he's a scrub. I never said he 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.600 can't play. What I said is that it's about moments, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.840 and every time there's a big moment, he has not 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.160 shown up. It's just that simple, and so he's got 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.200 to do it. You know, think about this, man, I mean, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.080 you got a cat like Brock Purty, mister irrelevant, last 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.000 pick in the draft, and all this other stuff. He's 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.720 considered a better quarterback than Dak Prescott and Jalen Hurts 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.240 he was just in the Super Bowl. He's considered a 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.440 better quarterback than Dak Prescott. Jared Golf, he's been bawling 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.319 for the Detroit Lions. He's considered a better quarterback than 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.280 Dak Prescott. And so when you I was at the 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.240 Aero Spence Terrence Crawford fight, you know, by the way, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.040 an annihilation. I did not expect I picked Crawford to 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:48.440 win that fight, but I ain't know it was gonna 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.560 be like that, but I gotta tell you, I'm at 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.680 the fight and a whole bunch of Dallas cowboy fans. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:58.400 I'm sorry to Dallas Cowboys. They're there and supremely confident 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.120 in their defense. And then when you asked him about 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:08.080 the quarterback and we believe in him, Steve, y'all know 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.640 the difference. Y'all know the difference. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.280 You know, you know you know that that let that 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.280 little extra hesitation to stutter in there like. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.680 Damn Yeah, They're like, we know what we gonna do. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.200 We hope he's gonna do it well. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.239 I hope the defense in the running game can over 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.840 compensate for the flaws that that has. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.240 Well. Listen, zekiell Leeller is not there anymore. Tony Polla's 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.200 that dude. He can ball, But can he be that 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.400 bell cow that can carry the ball as much as 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.040 they like him too, I don't know that to be 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.080 the case. Ceedee, Lampkin ball brand, the Cooks can ball. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.119 We got that gallop and ball. Dalton Schultzer's gone now 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.120 as your tight end. That was his security blanket. You 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.440 don't have that now. And so what they're trying to do. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:47.880 And this is where the setup comes. This is where 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.240 I'm gonna help you out here. See what happens is 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.079 is that they in the past was just trying to 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.359 put up points, averaging more than twenty five game twenty 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.680 nine game, rather killing more than office coordinated at the time. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.480 He's now the Chargers. Okay, we're gonna put up points. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.000 What they decided to do now is run the ball, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.880 take the ball out of his hands, be a bit 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.240 more conservative, you know, spell for the defense, et cetera, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.799 et cetera. Against the better teams, it's gonna still come 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.960 down to him. And now he'll be throwing the ball less. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.200 So as a result, it's gonna be a bit foreign 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.160 into him because the defense is gonna put you in 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.440 a position where you got a comfortable lead most times, 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.240 and you ain't under that pressure. And then when the 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.200 pressure mounts, what you're gonna do. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:31.679 I can't wait till we beat the forty nine of 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.040 this weekend. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.280 So that's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. I 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.280 predicted you're gonna lose. I'm predicting that's gonna throw two interceptions. Dang, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.880 I gotta bet with Shannon, and you're gonna throw two interceptions, damn. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.720 So who's your Super Bowl picking? While you're at the. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.560 Cowboys, I think, well, first, ain't gonna be. Ain't gonna 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:45.560 get the Cowboys. Ain't gonna be. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.600 He keep trying, he keep trying. I had the Eagles 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.200 at the beginning of the season. I still believe in them, 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.840 but I just think that San Francisco. The more I 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.080 look at San Francisco, Remember it was in the NFC 0:03:56.160 --> 0:04:00.320 Championship game. They didn't have a quarterback. It's never happened 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.240 in NFL his if all four quarterbacks got hurt, and 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.640 so because they didn't have a quarterback, they literally got 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.480 to a point after brock Perty went down in the 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.840 back and went down, Christian McCaffrey had to line up 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.960 behind center. They didn't have a quarterback. So it was 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.120 a four gone conclusion that the Eagles gonna win that game. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.039 They were going to the super Bowl once that happened. Well, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.280 this year they motivated, and you got a yuk and 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.680 you got de Bow, and you got Kittles, and this boy, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.320 Christian McCaffrey could be the league MVP. Right now. The 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.159 brother is bawling and party is leading everybody in QBR 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.919 and the defense is top three. And so when you 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.599 look at it right now, I would have to say, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.080 in all honesty, San Francisco is the favorite. And then 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.239 when you look at the AFC, it's up for grabs. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.159 Two weeks ago, I was like, yo, man, I ain't 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:46.360 seeing an offense like this in Miami since the days 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.360 of Dan Dan Fouts. With Charlie joining Kellen Winslow Senior, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.279 Chuck Munsey and these brothers, I'm like, this is something special. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.960 And then they go to Buffalo and get bum rushed, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.520 beat the hell down, and I'm like, well, damn, there 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.839 goes dadd And then you got Kansas City. Patrick Mahone 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.600 is still that dude. Kelsey is still that dude. But 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.839 their receivers can't get open. But they got Taylor Swift. 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.000 Now I know that that helps. That helps, that damn 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.240 sure helps, but not on the football field's popularity. But 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.360 now in the football now is that affecting the game now? 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.159 Because you know, we watched the game this past weekend 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.320 and it must have shown Tailor Swift nineteen times. I know, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.719 but but listen, listen, it's it's overkilled. There's no doubt 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.800 you even hear Kelsey speaking out against it. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.080 But let's be real about first of all, his fault. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.200 We didn't know his interest in Kelsey and tell the 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.400 Swift until he told us. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.680 Well nobody mind. You know we we thought he was 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.159 with the extra cry out like we didn't know. Okay, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.320 but Taylor Swift, I mean, that's six billion dollars in 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.760 the latest concert, you know, concert tour. Damn it. I 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.440 went to the concert you went to Tailor sw con Man. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:46.920 My daughter's made me take him. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.159 Man, you know what I'm saying, The greatest show you 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:50.000 saw on your life. Now. 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.200 I said it was a great show I had ever 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.680 been to. Now, I'm a Beyonce fan all day, every day. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.120 I don't think any of them compare the Heart, but 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.039 I've never been to her concert. I went to Taylor 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.480 Swift concert, yo, Man, at sofar Stay in La. She 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.440 brought the house down, and I mean, these little girls 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.240 I've never seen. I haven't seen anything like this since 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.680 Michael Jackson. I mean there was a in between songs. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.479 What I mean by that is in between songs. They 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:22.120 gave her a nine minute standing ovation non stop. They 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.479 was screaming. They wouldn't let us sing the next song. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.800 These little teenage girls, and I mean every one of 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.880 them knew every line of every song. They were singing 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.839 it with her. They were crying and screaming. I saw 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.320 people in the audience fainting. I saw mamas and poppers. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.640 Like jamming and the kids are like, this is embarrassing 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.120 that you are enjoying this morning me. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.600 I mean I saw it all. I couldn't believe it. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.400 I couldn't believe it. I was like, and I'm not 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.360 into her music or anything like that, but she put 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:52.880 on a hell of a show. Bro three and a 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.600 half hours, no intermission. Wow, three and a half hours, 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.080 no intermission, two thousand dollars a pop. And it was 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:00.520 worth it, really and it was worth it. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:01.800 I don't want to talk to know Steven Nate Smith, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.320 I no damn tailor that. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.839 I'm just I gotta ask about Damian lilland what was 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.000 your thought with him going to the box? 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.200 I love it. That's my brother. Got a lot of 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.800 love for him. He's a superstar in this league. I 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.440 think if it were not for Steph Curry, we'd be 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.120 talking about him as the best in the game at 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.040 that position. Having said all of that, I think that 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.800 it act. It elevated Milwaukee, no doubt about it, because 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.520 Joannis ain't had no weapon like that. I think what 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.720 you gotta look at what Damian Lillard is him being 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.280 on that squad. Jannis was their option. You gave the 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.119 ball up to Janni's. He's the Greek freak. He coming 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.640 at you, pushing you downhill. How you gonna stop this locomotive? Well, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.680 how you stopped the come playoff time? As you suffocate 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.200 the pink, you dare him to shoot a perimeter shot. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.400 If he gets to the hole, he gonna get his 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.880 thirty You know that he's gonna get his thirteen rebounds. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:50.760 But when it really really counts, is he gonna make 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.080 those rethrows? You don't know that. So it's limitations and 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.280 you got confidence. Now you've done brought in a closer. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.760 You've done brought in a brother that has sent people 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.640 home and waved goodbye to them while doing it. The 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.160 Paul Georgie's, the James Hardens, the Dwight Howard's, the Russell 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.960 Westbrooks of the world. Ask them Damien Littler had sent 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.560 them home and waved goodbye to them while doing it. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.280 This is what he does and so it's elite. But 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.000 what I said to everybody at the time is let's 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.880 not rule out Boston. And this was before they got Jollity. 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.920 I said, Yo, that's a big ure. I don't like 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.520 the fact that they lost Marcus Smart. I really don't. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.440 I mean, that brother something special, and I think you're 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.160 gonna help Memphis immensely. But make no mistake, you get 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.560 a seven foot three dude and Chris STAPs forward zingers 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.440 who can block shots, who can hit the three, who 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.400 just finished averaging twenty three twenty four game. He ain't 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.760 no number one option. He's not the ideal second option. 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.480 But in Boston, well that's Taston Tatum and Jalen Brown 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.320 and so you talking about a third option there. And 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.400 so that made them formidable to begin with. But then 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.560 when you turn around and you take that piece, and 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.920 then you add Drew Holliday to that, I don't like 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.600 the fact that they lost Malcolm Brock. Then I don't 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.600 like the fact that Marcus Martin's going. But if you 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.400 got Drew Holliday and Derek White as your back court, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:13.800 and you have Brown and Tatum and Arford as your 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.480 front court, and on top of it, or all porzingis okay, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.840 and you got Derek White coming off the bench because 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.480 you got Jalen at the two, and you're gonna use 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.760 Jason Tatum at the three. I'm looking at them and 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.520 I'm saying, it's Sam crue Fellers that took Milwaukee a 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.360 couple of years ago when they were down three two, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.200 when Jason Tatum rolled up then there for a game 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.000 six and dropped forty six. You understand, this is just 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.520 as Jason Tatum were talking about here. This is Jalen Brown. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.120 We told you he had a bad game seven last 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.560 year once Tatum got hurt the first offensive play and 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.200 he was supposed to be able to carry the team. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.079 He couldn't do it. But this is the same Jalen 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.200 Brown that outplayed Jason Tatum in the NBA Finals lost 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.040 to Golden State. Brother been averaging. You average twenty six 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:51.839 a game last year, You average twenty four to twenty 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.360 three and twenty six over the last three years. Brother 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.960 can ball, And so I'm looking at it from that perspective, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.720 and I'm looking at the size that they have at 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.360 every position, even though they don't have a seven foot 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.800 of like Greek and Brook Lopez. You can't use Brook 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.839 Lopez but so much against them because he got to 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.760 come out to the perimeter and got some of these brothers, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.480 because how Horford can shoot, and now Porzinkis can shoot, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.160 and Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown can shoot as well, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.680 and Drew Holliday is one of the best catching three 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.520 shooters in the game. So you look at it from 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.800 that perspective and the fact that they can play defense 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.560 on an elite level. I can't sit up there and 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.440 say Milwaukee got them. So that's I think for me, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.120 it is Boston. It's Boston ahead of Milwaukee. I kind 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.040 of hope I'm wrong, not because I have any desire 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.240 to go to Milwaukee, but it's because I'm rooting for 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:43.560 Damian Lillard Warriors. Hurt Well. Listen, I told Chris Paul 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.680 and them, I wasn't happy about it. I wasn't excited 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.960 about it because I'm like, unless you're telling me that 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.199 Klay Thompson is going to, you know, be morek from 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.160 Mork and Mindy back in the day. He gonna get 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.200 younger as he gets older, you know, like, can he 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.199 go at the three for you? Because to me, when 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.960 I think about Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. That's the 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.680 backcourt with a CP three fit into that. I looked 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.840 at him as a reserve coming off the bench, being 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.440 that point guard that's gonna run the show with Kaminga 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.680 and Moody and that second unit and upgrading them. All Right, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.840 it's CP three gonna accept that? Is he gonna embrace 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.920 that because listen, Graymond didn't like them, but now they're 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.079 trying to work things out because their teammates and all 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.599 of that other stuff. And that's cool. But they undersized 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.960 and they got a system and they're customer. Play it 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.839 that way. Chris Paul slows the pace down, control space. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.240 That's fine, that's not how they roll. And so if 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.120 you're gonna do that, how effective is that gonna work 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.240 out for you? I believe in Steph Curry, the greatest 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.600 shoot of God ever created. I believe in that Splash 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.280 Brothers is that backcourt. I believe in their pedigree, they experience, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.480 their championships, pedigree and stuff like that. So they'll be 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.680 in the mix. But I can't give them the edge 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.560 over the Lakers who took them out in the postseason. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.160 I can't give them the Lake the edge over to 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.080 the reigning defended champion Denver Nuggets. I can't give them 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.920 the edge over Phoenix with KD, Devin Booker, who's now 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.600 gonna be at your point, and Bradley Beal all right, 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.720 and that's the three of them. What about Memphis? Remember 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.000 Memphis last year it wasn't just John Moran in his troubles, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.800 it was also Steven Adams and Brandon Clark that were hurt. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.880 Well they back, Well, what you're gonna do with that? 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.320 I mean, you can't ignore Memphis, and you can't ignore 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.560 the Clippers because if Kawhi London and Paul Georgia healthy, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.160 one could easily argue they could have won the championship 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.920 three years ago when Phoenix was in the finals against Milwaukee. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.080 Because if Kawhi is healthy and Paul George is healthy, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.360 I don't know if Phoenix beats the Clippers. And so 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.200 you got to look at all of those teams before 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.719 you make that kind of decision. And that's where I'm 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:43.120 at with it. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.800 I got one more question about sports than I want 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.640 to talk strictly about even a Since you brought up 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.679 the Clippers, who do you think will play more games 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:49.079 next year? 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.400 Ben Simmons or Kawhi Leonnon Kawhilennon. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.960 Okay, I've lost complete faith in Ben Simmons. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:55.520 Dam. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:57.760 The only thing I'm mad about is I didn't get 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.760 a chance to tell him to his face. And the 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.240 reason why is that we were at the spot last year, man, 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.520 and you know, you know I got a lot of 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.600 I got. I had a lot of respect for him. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.520 You know, I'm not going to disrespect him as a 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.880 man or human being. But it's like, my god, bro, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.240 I get the I get the mental aspects obviously. You 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.760 know you and I have talked about that a lot 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.680 of times, with all the great work you've done in 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.800 that regard, But you take the money, you know what 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.520 I'm saying. Somehow, in some way, no matter what troubles 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.199 you're going through, the check is in the account and 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.840 you cashing it. Somehow you're on the bench looking like 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.920 a male model, you know what I'm saying, while the 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.880 rest of your team out there playing it. You know, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.959 you're just looking at it, and it's like, yo, bro, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.319 your boys need you. You understand that if you and 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.720 Philly and you balling with embiid the way Tyrese Maxie 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.079 is elevated. You realize what y'all could have been, right. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.160 You understand that if you're in Brooklyn and with Katie 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.160 and Kyrie at the time and you could ball, you 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.600 understand what what what you could have accomplished. Right, I'm 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.800 looking at scenarios over the last two years is where 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.160 he could have helped two teams to a championship. Because 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.520 that's how legit Ben Simmons is. And I know that 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.000 he's had the injuries. I'm not trying to question that, 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.400 but the point is other people are gonna question it 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.480 because you couldn't bring yourself to play basketball. It literally 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.760 was tantamount to you like standing on the front lines 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.760 in Ukraine against Russia. It don't make no damn sense 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.840 to me. And so I look at it from that perspective. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.800 And then now you talk about you ready, you ready, 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:27.640 you ready. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.600 And he's one of those guys that I would tell 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.520 you this, his talent is big time. If I could 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.760 get away with it as a team, I wouldn't give 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.320 him a damn done until he plays. You got to 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.680 show up to work man, and to me, he hasn't 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.080 done that, and that's my disappointment with him. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.160 I got sports questions. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.080 What was your thoughts on Colin Kaepernick writing the Jets 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.640 and saying that he wanted to be work on the 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.240 practice team to get the squad. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:56.720 Where they needed to be. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.600 We always butted heads on this, y'all. It it meant 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.680 nothing to me. I knew it was gonna be much 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.840 ado about nothing in twenty nineteen, and I remember when 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.760 you came up first taking me, talked about it later. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:14.920 You know, listen, Colin Kaepernick's team, I'm gonna say it again, 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.560 reached out. They wanted help. They wanted a try out 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.920 with one team. I had sources inside the league office 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.400 and connected to the league office from the outside, Rock 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:32.600 Nation and those boys. Yo, they gonna give him a workout. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.640 At least twenty four teams gonna show up. It ended 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.960 up being twenty six the quote I received, and I 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.440 said it on the head at the time. This brother 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.640 would have to throw it into the stands to not 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:50.120 have a job in two weeks. All he got to 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.560 do is show up. So I'm looking at a team 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.200 of people that came to me along with others, asking 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.320 for assistance to get him a tryout. The league didn't 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.120 want to give. The league had to give him to 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.200 try it. I'm sorry, because individual teams didn't want to, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.320 y'all because they were fearful that if they gave him 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.360 a tryout and he didn't work out, he would be 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.680 ready to sue them because he had already sued. The 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.360 league reached the settlement, et cetera, et cetera, and all 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.920 the whole you know, the racial strife that existed and 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.640 he had articulated and highlighted wasn't just about police battalion 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.160 and all that stuff. He was also talking about the 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.360 NFL to some degree. The teams were scared. So the 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.680 NFL stepped in and they said, for the first time 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.520 in history, were gonna conduct this workout. Then it was 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.560 an issue with the wavering. The waiver was different than 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.840 what other teams had to I call a league officer 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.920 called general Console. They was like, this, you damn right, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.200 is different. We never conducted a workout as league. We 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.800 don't do individual workouts. That's a team's job. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.120 Since this is the first time we've ever done it, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.520 and we just reached the settlement with the guy for 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.320 millions of dollars, we of course are gonna do a. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.080 Different kind of waiver. Okay. Having said all of that. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.320 Here's what I said publicly on the first take, and 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.360 go back and look at the tapes. I said, the 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.160 world is watching. You want to play Baul, You show 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.600 up to the workout, because now we know where it's 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.920 gonna be. We know when it's gonna be. We gonna 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.960 get the tape, we gonna see what happened, and we 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.760 know what. Sorry, as quarterbacks exist in the NFL, and 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.640 they're gonna be off for you if you go out 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.960 there and do it. Go out there and do it 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.680 and trust the rest of us. You had the breakfast club, 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.840 you had first take, you had get up, you had 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:28.520 everybody everywhere Black America was like, Yo, you're gonna treat 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.280 this brother right, show up and work. If he show up, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.359 show give him a fair shot. And in my eyes, 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.640 he didn't trust us enough to look out to see 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.800 I'm talking about the tsunami of folks that talk sports 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.880 and beyond. You didn't trust us to use your greatness 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.120 as an athlete and say we see what you got 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.080 up in there and bring the tsunami down upon the 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.800 NFL and make sure now that you gave him this tryout, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.159 that ultimately you give him a job you passed, You 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.080 did some work out of the high school football field 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.960 an hour and twenty minutes away, giving them two hours notice. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.320 Nah nah, I said it. From that day, I said 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:15.400 it's over. They just found the perfect excuse. They ain't 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.520 never gonna look at him again. Just this past year, 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.480 you know, fourteen quarter black quarterbacks started in the NFL 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.280 opening week, and seven of the top eleven paid players 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.520 in the NFL at the quarterback position are black. I 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.359 only bring up that numbers because that's what the owner's 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.760