1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty. 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Deciding and he. 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: Arms who live the from studio see see Senior Wednesday. 5 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: Didn't we let Rome put them the bowels of the 6 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: Armstrong in getting communications compound cameras everywhere in case anybody 7 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: tries to kill themselves or do anything, or somebody tries 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: to sneak in and strangle us. Right, we'll have it 9 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: on tape. Neil and Jersey Witz is standing by, and 10 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: today we are under the tutelage of our general manager, 11 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos. Although in a greater sense, the free Market 12 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: today is a very special birthday, which we'll tell you 13 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: about in a couple of minutes. Okay, cool, I want 14 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: to hear that. That sounds fantastic. The free Market is 15 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: a superhero. It makes Superman look like I wish I 16 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: had a punchline. But the point is it's incredibly impressive. 17 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: My god, the good it's done. It's lifted humanity, it's 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: healed the sick, it's lifted the lame. It's it's it's 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: it's done all sorts of good stuff, lifting the blame yeah, lifted. 20 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: The idea is that people think, yeah, we got to 21 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: get rid of capitalism, we got to have socialism. Man, 22 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: you people are ignorant, just to a degree which I 23 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: cannot explain. You have no idea, how little you know? Well, 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: I told you when we were in New York City. 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I took a picture of my kids in front of 26 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: the New York Stock Exchange there on Wall Street and 27 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: talked about it. This is the most important thing probably 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: in America right here. This, This is why we're so 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: rich and so powerful, because we unleash humanity to go 30 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: out and do what it can do in a way 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: that other countries never have. That's why we're the most 32 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: powerful country that's ever lived. This right here Wall Street. 33 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: The free market and every exchange is voluntary. It has 34 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: to satisfy both sides or everybody does something different. The 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: incentives to be better never end in the free market 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: when government, they don't exist. One thing that I really 37 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: appreciate that my son, who is in a private school, 38 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: that they talk a lot about that that I never 39 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: ever heard ever in my life, even back in the day. 40 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we ever talked about the free market 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: and its importance in public school. I don't remember it 42 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: all right. This is something I think a lot about, 43 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: the evolution transition from it's assumed everybody gets why liberty, 44 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: including economic liberty, is so important. It's what the country 45 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: was found it on. We sing songs about it, we 46 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: have festivals about it. Everybody loves it and everybody knows it. 47 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: And then that next phase was those who would overthrow 48 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: all of it, teaching the kids to you know, not 49 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: love liberty and to think that this is a bad 50 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: country blah blah blah, and a lot of us were 51 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: asleep at switch and didn't understand that. No, no, you 52 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: need to pass this on to your children overtly. It 53 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: doesn't just happen by osmosis. You have to teach them. 54 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: And I think now we're into that third phase, which 55 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: is what you're describing, where whether it's people like us 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: or the great people and I salute them at your 57 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: son's school, are saying, no, we need to help people 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: understand capitalism isn't like greed and exploitation, it's the opposite. Yeah, 59 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: we should. Let's get to the opening clip, just because 60 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: it's such a good discussion. I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty. 61 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wednesday, July sixteenth, the year twenty twenty five. 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Were armstrong and getting. We approve of this program. Let's 63 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: leap into action then immediately, according to FCC rules and riggs, 64 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: here we go at Mark. 65 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos, and the founder of Amazon dot Com three 66 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: years ago, came across the startling statistic the web usage 67 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: was growing a twenty three hundred percent a year. So 68 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: I decided I would try and find a business plan 69 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: that made sense in the context of that growth, and 70 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 4: I picked the books as the first best product to 71 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: sell online because there are more items in the book 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: category and there are items in any other category by far. 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Interesting that was thirty years ago today, Michael, correct, Wow, 74 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: because I always remember that. For jeez a decade, the 75 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: laughing story on economics was always Amazon, which still has 76 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: never turned a profit. Jeff Bezos, who nobody knew his 77 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: name at the time, continues as primer cool. Yeah, yeah, 78 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: so I didn't realize that he I'd never is there 79 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: a book. There's got to be a book about Amazon 80 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and how it got started in growing at Amazon dot com, 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: if you'd like. I didn't realize he started with books 82 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: just because it was such a broad category with the 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: expectation of going to other fans. But I mean, has 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: there ever been a more amazing free market? You couldn't 85 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: start that anywhere else in the world, but in America's 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: story than Amazon, and then the way it changed everything 87 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: and you know, including some things that a lot of 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: us would would call negatives. Right, But that's that's the 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: thing about the free market is because no one controls it. 90 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: There are things that you don't love, but don't succumb 91 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: to the temptation to say, therefore I should be in 92 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: charge of it, or the people I vote for should 93 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: be in charge of it and take the. 94 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: Winners and losers. 95 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: And it's tough because the like if you're talking about 96 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the negative of your local bookstore going away, I hate that. 97 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: But then at the same time, I can get any book, 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: any version of any book, any translation of any book, 99 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: softcover or hardcover, probably to my house if you live 100 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: in a city today, if you don't live in a 101 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: city tomorrow, that's pretty freaky handy. Yeah, it's amazing. And 102 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: the charm, the tradition, you know, whatever words you want 103 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: to describe to you know, to evoke the things that 104 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: have changed that you kind of miss I totally sympathize 105 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: with that. But you know, John the hog Butcher, Noella 106 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: hog Butcher's a little specific, but you know your neighborhood. 107 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: Butcher was charming and funny and the rest of it. 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: He was supplanted by grocery stores that had much more volume, 109 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: much more variety. That sort of thing just nothing lasts 110 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: forever in the world of economics, and you have to 111 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: find that satisfaction in other ways, in other places. But 112 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: and it reminds me very much about the discussion of 113 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: democracy and that it's the worst system except for all 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: the rest that have ever been tried. Yeah, capitalism, or 115 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: as I prefer call the free market, it has some downsides, 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: but man, the alternatives are horrific. I'm not even willing 117 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: to present them as outside. It's just part of the process. 118 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: If I understand why it feels like a downside. I'm 119 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: in an industry that's going the wrong direction because other 120 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: things are changing and there are new things coming about. Yes, uh, 121 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: I hate that, But you know what do you How 122 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: would you stop it in a way that wouldn't destroy 123 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: the whole, you know, everything we've just been talking about. 124 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: You'd need a time machine for one thing, just regulatory wise. 125 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: Although what's interesting about our business is that while the 126 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: deregulation radio, which was a terrible idea, took place and 127 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: changed the industry forever, the advent of the internet and 128 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: podcasting and the rest of it would have brought that 129 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: cataclysmic change. Anyway, Yeah, that's funny. I talked to my kids. 130 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: So we were in Key West. My son is on 131 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of different medications and somehow, oh, we decided 132 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: to stay extra day. That's what it was. 133 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: In me. 134 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: I just counted out the pills. I didn't put an 135 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: extra one in there as a dope when we stayed 136 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: extra day and it needed an extra and needed a pill. 137 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: There was a CBS there in Key West, and talk 138 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: to my kids about I said, you know, there's certain 139 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: things about like a CBS coming in. I'm sure there 140 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: was a drug store here, mom and pop shop that 141 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: had been here forever and CBS came and drove them 142 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: out of business. On the other hand, we walked into 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: the CBS and they pulled up your prescription from three 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: five hundred miles away and handed me a pill in 145 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: like two seconds. Yeah, so yeah, you know that again, 146 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: the free market. It's it works his way around to 147 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: whatever generally, to whatever serves customers best. M not always 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: the best thing for you as the employee. There if 149 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: something new comes along at some point today, I hope 150 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: to get into this. Part of me thinks maybe we 151 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: grabbed Craig, the healthcare guru, to join us in this. 152 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: But you want an example of an unholy accommodation of 153 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: the free market, yet heavily government involved dynamics, the worst 154 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: sort of crony capitalism. It's our healthcare system. I mean, 155 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: that is a perversion of the free market that's just awful. 156 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't serve patients. But it's so damn complicated, it's so important. 157 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: It's one of the frustrations of this job that I 158 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: wish we could help people understand our healthcare system and 159 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: what's wrong with it and what could be done about 160 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: it more effectively. But man, you'd need like two years 161 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: in a good, solid college, I think to really grasp 162 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: what's going on. Two years of classes. I mean, oof, 163 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: I know, oof, But there are people making a hell 164 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: of a lot of money and or getting a hell 165 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: of a lot of money from lobbyists. Because all of 166 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: us our eyes glazed and rolled up in our heads 167 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: when we try to think about it anyway, speaking of 168 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: the free market people who don't in Amazon again, we'll 169 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: have to talk more about that later the thirty year anniversary. 170 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest things in the history of capitalism. 171 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: Amazon is coming along. Wow, he's the fellow hamming his 172 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: weird wedding. I wish we hadn't we were off that week. 173 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: It was a week or fourth of July. I would 174 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: have liked to have talked about that more so strange, 175 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: I just don't understand that personality at all. Yes, you 176 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: have to be a certain sort of person that wants 177 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: to walk out of a building fifteen different times over 178 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: three days and have people applaud I'm intrigued by the young, scrappy, 179 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: innovative entrepreneur who builds something that becomes a phenomenal success 180 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: and then goes a little bit nuts. I mean, it's 181 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: a fairly common narrative, whether Howard Hughes or I don't 182 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: know a Hugh Hefner. There a thousand examples. It might 183 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: fit in with that golfer clip that we got. We're 184 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: gonna play later, Oh, Scott Scheffler, Yeah, believe it or not. 185 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna play you some clips from a golf press conference. 186 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: It's a no reach for that, Doby. I suggested it, 187 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: so that should give it some credibility because I have 188 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: zero interest in golf, and I didn't know who this 189 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: guy was. Oh my god, he's the greatest golfer on 190 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: the planet. I wouldn't have known how if he walked 191 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: up to me and asked me for a dollar. He 192 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: is one of the eternal stars of the sport. His 193 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: name will be spoken in one hundred years. But I 194 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: liked what he had to say about the purpose of 195 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: life and that sort of stuff, as somebody has been 196 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: successful in their field. One of the things, speaking of 197 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the free market, the opposite side of the free market 198 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: is communism, and the communist mayorro candidate is I'm Mamdi 199 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be in Washington, d C. Today. He's trying 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: to build more democratic support since no big time Dems 201 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: have come out and supported him other than AOC. So 202 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: she invited him to DC and he's going to be 203 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: there and uh, and he's he he already today is 204 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: distancing himself from that whole globalized the Intifada thing that 205 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: he refused to contemnp barely right, barely, very weakly. Yeah, 206 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: but we'll have to talk about him later. I've got 207 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: all sorts of great Mum Donnie stuff. I'm Donnie. The 208 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Kami Epstein continues to be a story. I don't know 209 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: if there's ever been a big story I get less 210 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: than this one. Okay, here you go. Uh, if you 211 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: can't beat them, join them. Here's your click baity joke, 212 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 1: Eddie tease. Mam Donnie's attorney breaks his silence. What he 213 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: reveals will shock you. Ma'm Donnie's attorney. Did I say, Mom, Donnie, 214 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: can I have a second take? Do we have enough 215 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: tapes there? Michael? Yeah, go ahead. Epstein's whole attorney breaks 216 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: his silence. He says, it's a completely different story, completely difference. 217 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: What he says will shock you. But now Speaker Johnson 218 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: is talking about Epstein and how they need to release 219 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: the files and what everybody wants to stay on the 220 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: right side of the hardcore. That that that's that subset 221 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: of MAGA that's super into this. Okay, the qan on set, gotcha. Well, 222 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: we will talk more about that and all these different 223 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: things coming up a little bit later. We got Katie's headlines. Next, 224 00:12:52,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: there most underappreciated story right now is those inflation numbers. 225 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: It was a little bit, but the key is if 226 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: it turns out this is the beginning of inflation really 227 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: growing because of the whole tariff thing. Like many many 228 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: economists predicted simultaneously, there was a notable lack of growth 229 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: in any industry that depends on illegal immigrants. I really 230 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: was interesting to read the Wall Street Journal just state that, Yeah, 231 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: there are serious sectors of the economy that depend on 232 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. That's the system we've built. I don't know 233 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: if America can handle another round of big inflation. I 234 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: can't imagine how we would react. Let's figure out who's 235 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green and Katie. 236 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 6: All right, guys, well, speaking of inflation, starting with CNN. 237 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 6: US wholesale inflation was unchanged last month despite tariff rollout. 238 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get more into this later, but there were 239 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things that companies and businesses and importers 240 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: did preemptively when they heard their tariff's coming so that 241 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: they could put off the impact. And that period is 242 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: going to run out soon. 243 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 6: Go back to you from ABC Ukraine braces for Trump's 244 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 6: fifty day window amid escalating Russian strikes. 245 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, putting isn't back and off. Wow, what his game is? 246 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. His game might just be I'm trying 247 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: to take over Ukraine no matter what anybody says or does. 248 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: From the Free Beacon, Israel begins talks with countries that 249 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: could take in Gossen's under Trump's plan. 250 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, really interesting. Cleaning the House. 251 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 6: USA today, nude photos for cash. Illegal immigrants go to 252 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: new lengths to raise funds to cover legal fees, like 253 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: only fans, Like only fans and go fund me. 254 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: So if you're a hot illegal and you get detained, 255 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: you go to only fans to ford a lawyer. Hey, 256 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: that's an interesting wrinkle. Hey, hey, it's the free market again. 257 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: It is. 258 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,479 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. 259 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: From the Washington Post, the rich are pre selecting their 260 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 6: children based on their genes and calling it the future 261 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 6: of making babies. 262 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, we got to get into that story. Boy, 263 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: it's a humanity. Don't buy any green apples, humanity. I 264 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: don't like your chances or green bananas. 265 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 6: From the New York Post, gen z and millennial women 266 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: are now rejecting once trendy breast implants. 267 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: And face fillers. 268 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 6: This is called the glowdown trend, and they're dissolving lip 269 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: fillers and removing implants glow down. 270 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know about the lip fillers. I knew that 271 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the breasht implants where a like scene as like something 272 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: mom or Grandma did for the younger crowd. Not cool. 273 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 6: From CBS News, women arrested for allegedly enticing Thai Buddhist 274 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 6: monks into sex and then blackmailing them. 275 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow, ah, those poor lonely monks. They hadn't even talked, 276 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: let alone had sex. 277 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 6: From study Fines, musical training may hold the key to 278 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 6: fighting age related brain decline. 279 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know that that rings true. There are 280 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: a number of different things you can do with your 281 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: brain that are difficult and frustrating, and that's the feeling 282 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: you're going for, because that indicates that you're actually helping 283 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: your brain. And finally, from the Babylon B. 284 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 6: Long line for bathroom as, there's only one fire hydrant 285 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 6: outside of furry convention. 286 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Hilarious, hilarious, I get it. Animals p on fire hydrants, Yes, 287 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: sometimes some do, certainly dogs in particular. Yes. And if 288 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you're a furry dressed as a dog. Be a funny 289 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: leap that you go out and peeing the fire hydrognolsis 290 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: because you're playing the part exactly right right, You're really 291 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: really taking it to the eighth degree. Some good stuff. 292 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: So I hadn't read what Epstein's lawyer, the famous famous 293 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz, wrote yesterday. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, yeah, huh, 294 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: I'll be darned. Did he commit suicide with Helpwi Armstrong 295 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: and Getty? 296 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 5: I would say that, you know, these files were made 297 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 5: up by Tomy, they were made up by Obama, they 298 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 5: were made up by the Biden from you know, uh 299 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: we and we went through years of that with the 300 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: Russia Russia Russia hoax, with all of the different things 301 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: that we had to go through. We've gone through years 302 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: of it. But she's handled it very well and it's 303 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: going to be up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible, 304 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 5: she should release. 305 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: So okay, we're about to get into more of what 306 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: Trump said yesterday, which has it's I have no idea 307 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: if this is important or not. I lean toward thinking 308 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: it's not. I think mainstream media is making a big idea, 309 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: a big deal out of this because they see division 310 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: in magaworld and they got nothing else to attack Trump 311 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: on because things are going his way right now. Well, 312 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: and they've shown great the lights through the years in 313 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: portraying anybody on the right as a whackydoodle conspiracy theorist, 314 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: even when the truth was one hundred percent on our 315 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: side see COVID in its many aspects. Thankfully, it's just 316 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: luck that I happen to know a couple people too. 317 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: I mean, actually too. I only know two in my 318 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: whole life, or at least they have said it out loud, 319 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: but that I know a couple of people who actually 320 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: were voting for Trump mainly because there is a child 321 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: pedophile ring run by the powerful in politics and business 322 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: in this country that's been going on for decades, hundreds 323 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: of thousands of children being trafficked around the world, and 324 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: it needs to be stopped. That was the main reason 325 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: they voted for Trump. Wow. And it's all around and 326 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: Jeffreys Epstein is the key to it. He was a 327 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: masaon agent blackmailing people blah blah blah blah. And so 328 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: with that being said, this next chunk that Trump said 329 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: is a pretty big shot at that crowd here. 330 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 5: We go, well, I don't understand why they would be 331 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 5: so interested. He's dead for a long time. He was 332 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 5: never a big factor in terms of life. I don't 333 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 5: understand what the interest or what the fascination is. I 334 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: really don't. And if the credible information has been given, 335 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: don't forget. 336 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: We went through years of the Muller witch hunt and 337 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: all of. 338 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 5: The different things to steal dossier which was all fake. 339 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: All that information was fake. But I don't understand. 340 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: Why the Jeffrey Epsy case would be of interest to anybody. 341 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: It's pretty boring stuff. 342 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: It's sorted, but it's boring, and I don't understand why 343 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 5: it keeps going. 344 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: I think, well, really, only pretty. 345 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 5: Bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like 346 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 5: like that gud. 347 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: But credible information. Let them give it. 348 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: Anything that's credible, I would say, let them have it. 349 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: Now. I have no idea how many thousands or millions 350 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: of people their maga inclinations are driven by the child 351 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: pedal ring thing that they that you believe if you're 352 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: listening right now, But Trump calling it the same as 353 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: the Russia hoax that was perpetrated, and it's boring and 354 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: you and it's bad people that are trying to keep 355 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: this alive. I don't know how that lands. Yeah, I 356 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: don't know about driven by, but I was really struck 357 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: by the unanimity of the reaction at that turning point 358 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: USA gathering that we played the audio of this week, 359 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: where very speakers said, are you satisfied with the Jeffrey 360 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Epstein outcome? 361 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 5: No? 362 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean they went crazy again. I think it's worth 363 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: pointing out that that was a young crowd, and of 364 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: course it's young people that tend to be into this 365 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: story because it's an entirely online story. It wasn't being 366 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: reported anywhere else. If you watch if you read newspapers 367 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: like actual newspapers, and watch TV news like anybody over 368 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, forty five or fifty years, maybe including 369 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: aggressive conservative outlets, they. 370 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: Weren't covering this at all. 371 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: You would be, like, I use my parents as an example, 372 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: have to be completely unaware of this story, that it 373 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: exists at all, the pedophile ring. However, if you're younger 374 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: and you get all of your news online and zero 375 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: of it from mainstream media, this is a giant story 376 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: for you. I guess, yeah, yeah, you know, it's funny. 377 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about one of the hallmarks of 378 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: these things is that everything they say is unfalsifiable. And 379 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the reason that thought popped up is I was a 380 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: picture and Charlie Kirk himself the other day we played 381 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: the audio I should ask for it, came out and said, yeah, yeah, 382 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about this anymore for now. 383 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: Now I trust the people within the administration. He got 384 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: a call from Donald Trump who said, hey, this is 385 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: really a distraction and screwing up the good things we're doing, 386 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: and so Charlie said, okay, I won't talk about it anymore. 387 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 5: Now. 388 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: The question pops up if it was a cabal of 389 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: evil child predators and he was one of the brave 390 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: crusaders against it, and all it took was a single 391 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: call from Trump to flip him, what's missing there? But 392 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: then the answer would be, well, they got to him, 393 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: they got to him. Well, he changed his tune a 394 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: little bit in the last twenty four hours from that though, 395 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think it's because, well, well, 396 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: go ahead. I think because he recognizes his audience, which 397 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: is the core of the mag of world that believes 398 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: the Epstein stuff, didn't like him saying that, and so 399 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: Rogan went on a rant yesterday on his show about 400 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: Trump's handling of the Epstein files the Trump Justice Department, 401 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: particularly about how they're covering it up. And then Charlie 402 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Kirk put out a statement immediate credible action items, and 403 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: it's ten things DOJ should move to unsealed the Maxwell 404 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: grand jury testimony, bring a cost in for a full 405 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: interview to find out what he knew about Epstein working 406 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: for foreign intelligence. It's a whole list of all things 407 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: that he demands that the Justice Department does in terms 408 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: of getting to the bottom of this. I'll bet he 409 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: got a monster backlash, a monster from what he said. 410 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: He must have released the names of prisoners on the floor, Knight. 411 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: Epstein was murdered, overruled the prisoner privacy rules. So that's 412 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I guess the idea that the prisoners were the killers. 413 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. They're a handful 414 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: of these topics, whether it's the vaccine thing in general, 415 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: not the COVID vaccine, but vaccines in general and autism 416 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: or or this or what are a couple other examples 417 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: of the kind of out there, kind of fringy, sort 418 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: of on the right wing y ideas and just to 419 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: pull back the curtains a little bit. Whether it's Charlie Kirk, 420 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: or or or US or Laura Ingram or you know 421 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: any other commentator who's who's of the right, Generally you 422 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: have varying degrees of complete brutal honesty at all times, 423 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: and then it moves toward the other end. The other 424 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: extreme is complete pandering, enthusiastic, profitable pandering like Geno was 425 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: probably doing. Who's now the number two at the FBI 426 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: Department and cash Hotel? Yeah, absolutely they they made a 427 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: good money and I could name other people, but I 428 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: don't particularly want to get in the fight. I got 429 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: a tea time later. But in between those two extremes 430 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: are various levels of I don't want to run those 431 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: people off, even though I think they're wrong, or in 432 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: some cases even though I think they're nuts. Varying levels 433 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: of that. And what you're seeing from Charlie Kirk, who 434 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: was way down the road and I love a lot 435 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: of things that turning Point USA does. I mean, among 436 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: young people, I am thrilled with what they do. But 437 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: he was way toward the end of We're completely into this, 438 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna promote it, We're gonna push it, and I 439 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: think most of it, ninety percent of it is complete 440 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: bunk personally. But now Charlie's in a difficult position because 441 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, he got the call from Donald J. And 442 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I think he knows precisely what he's been doing, and 443 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: he thought, all right, we'll rein it in a little bit. 444 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: But then he got on the wrong side of the 445 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: energy of his audience, and now he is scrambling backward. 446 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: It's interesting to watch anyway. So what's the highlight from 447 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: Dershowitz's letter, Alan Dershwitz, Maybe the most famous lawyer in 448 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: America was Epstein's lawyer. Yeah, the inside scoopon Jeffrey Epstein 449 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: is his lawyer. He rights. I know things that court 450 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: orders won't allow me to disclose ah bo bob because 451 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: it is privileged or a subject to court imposed sealing orders. 452 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: But what I can disclose makes several important things clear. 453 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Epstein never created a quote client list. The FBI interviewed 454 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: alleged victims who named several clients. These names have been redacted. 455 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: They should be disclosed, but the courts have ordered them sealed. 456 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: I know who they are. They don't include any current 457 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: office holders. We don't know whether the accusations are true. 458 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: The courts have also sealed negative information about some of 459 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: the accusers to protect them. Neither the Justice Department nor 460 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: private defense lawyers are free to disregard court sealing orders. 461 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: The media can and should petition the courts for the 462 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: release of all names and information so the public can 463 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: draw its own conclusions. There have also been speculation about 464 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: incriminating videos taken by hidden cameras in Epstein's guest bedrooms. 465 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: There are videotapes, but they are of public areas of 466 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: his Palm Beach, Florida home. He reported the theft of 467 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: money and a license firearm from a drawer in his 468 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: living room, so the police installed the video camera. I 469 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: am not aware of video cameras in guest bedrooms. Then 470 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: he deals with the Trump relationship, but there's practically none. 471 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: It is clear from the evidence that Epstein committed suicide. 472 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: What isn't clear is whether he was assisted by jail personnel. 473 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: That's interesting if you're assisted in your suicide. I'm not 474 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: sure it was a suicide. Of course, yeah, it absolutely was, 475 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, And this is what I've suspected all along. 476 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: In fact, I've said it on the air once or twice, 477 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: but it seems likely to me based on the evidence 478 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: of allegedly broken cameras, transfer of his cellmate, and the 479 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: absence of guards during relative relevant time periods. He was 480 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: a very rich guy who lived a life of debauchery 481 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: and pleasure and was going to live the rest of 482 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: his days in a cage eating crap food off a tray, 483 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: and so he decided to offer himself on very easy 484 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: thing to picture. Yeah, that's what I believe from the beginning. 485 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: But what does assisted in his suicide mean? They turned 486 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: a blind eye, They transferred to cell mate on they 487 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: didn't inspect to sell for long enough to let him die. 488 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: They wanted him to commit suicide, or knew he wanted 489 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: paid he paid them to. Well, I was about to 490 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: get there, yeah, I mean, anybody in the prisoner or 491 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: jail system can tell you people reach out to people 492 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: outside all the time. You know, there are guys who 493 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: run giant criminal gangs from jail. So yeah, Epstein was 494 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: able to get payoffs to guard. So you think your 495 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: current working theory is he paid a variety of people 496 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: to make it easier for him to kill himself essentially. Yeah, 497 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: interesting listen, I need you to not come by the 498 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: cell for an hour Thursday night, whatever. I'll make it 499 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: worth your while. Sure, wow, let's see. How about another 500 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: important point. I have absolutely no doubt that Epstein never 501 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: worked for any intelligence agency, says Dershawitz, who is a Jew. Exactly. 502 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: That's what the conspiracy to people would say. And there's 503 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: no comment I think needed on that beyond what we've 504 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: already said. Dershowitz goes on to say, though if he had, 505 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: he would surely have told me and his other lawyers, 506 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: who would have used that information to get him a 507 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: better deal. He wasn't satisfied with the so called sweetheart 508 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: deal he got, which required him to spend a year 509 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: and a half in local jail and register as a 510 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: sex offender. My sources in Israel have confirmed to me 511 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: he had no connection to Israeli intelligence. That false story 512 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: recently peddled by Tucker Carlson probably emanated from credible allegations 513 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: that Robert Maxwell, fatherte Epstein's former girlfriend Julaine Maxwell, worked 514 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: with the masade. That there's such a leap here and 515 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: we got to take a break. But then, we've talked 516 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: about this so much, but there's such a leap here 517 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: I don't get because it's I don't think this happened. 518 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: But it's possible that Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, and you 519 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: know name, your big powerful person was at a party 520 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: of Epstein's and had sex with a seventeen year old, 521 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: either on purpose or not knowingly. That's possible and believable. 522 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Wouldn't shock me completely. But even if that happened, how 523 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: do you make the leap to massade and everybody running 524 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: a child sex ring? Those are such different things. I 525 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: don't understand the good because that makes it a much 526 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: more exciting novel. But where's the evidence for that? I mean, 527 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: there is plausible evidence for the first thing I mentioned, right, 528 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: but zero for the next thing. Well, no, not zero, 529 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: just enough to sustain it. Just intriguing tidbits like her 530 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: dad worked with a massad. That's all you need to know, 531 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: to which I replied, no, that's not all I need 532 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: to know. My dad dealt with nuclear weapons when he 533 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: was in the Air Force. It's all classified, so I 534 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: don't know much about it. I don't know which end 535 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: of the nuclear weapon theyond button is. Haha, I don't know. 536 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: It says, come on, but folk believe what you want 537 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: to believe. We can still be friends. Hmmm, is this 538 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: only fIF turns out you're right, I will jump on 539 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the air, I will turn on my microphone and I 540 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: will say I was wrong and you were right, and 541 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: nobody told us to say this. By the way, we're 542 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: not being paid or uh. Now that Trump's camp out 543 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: and called it boring in a non space, they threatened me. 544 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: They threatened that they would kick my dog if I 545 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: didn't stand up for Jeffrey Epstein. Now that Trump's called 546 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: it boring in a non story, does it go away? 547 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: I guess we'll watch out over the next twenty four hours. 548 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: We got mail bag on the way. Next. Nvidia is 549 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: the most viable company in the world. If you ever 550 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: want to answer a trivia question about that, the most 551 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: valuable company in the world as of a week or 552 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: so ago. The most valuable company up in the video, 553 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: it's worth four trillion dollars. Why didn't I buy stock 554 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: in that evening? Well it's too late now, said people. 555 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Two years ago, a year ago, six months ago, four 556 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: months ago, two weeks ago, three days ago. Blah blah, blah, 557 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: keeps going up. Here's your freedom, loving of the day 558 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: from the great Thomas Soil, still celebrating his ninety fifth birthday. 559 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: My favorite thinker, certainly in your top five. Elections should 560 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: be held on April sixteenth, the day after we pay 561 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: our income taxes. That is one of the few things 562 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: that might discourage politicians from being big spenders. Yeah. He 563 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: probably said that long before we reach the point that 564 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: half of people don't pay taxes. Yeah. Yeah, it's a 565 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: good point. It's insidious but successful. Political strategy. Mailbag. Drop 566 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: us a no mail bag at Armstrong you Getty dot 567 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: com if you like, keep it as short as you can. 568 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Let's see. On the topic of conspiracy theories, John says. 569 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: We talked about that a great deal in the fourth 570 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: hour of yesterday's show. If you missed it, grab it 571 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: by a podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should 572 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: follow us or subscribe. The one thing every human has 573 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: to understand is that human nature never changes. Slavery wars 574 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: a conquest. It's been happening for thousands of years everywhere. 575 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: It's really that simple. Hug your kids, live your life, 576 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: especially if you're born an American. I feel sorry and 577 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: have compassion for people in many countries they don't have 578 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: the protections and constitution that we have here. That's all. 579 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to grab my last beer for the night, 580 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: spend tomorrow running around from job to job trying to 581 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: get crap done. Fortunately, my wife and kids and I 582 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: will go to bed feeling safe. I say that all 583 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: the time. You should think every day you live in 584 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: the United States, where there's zero chance a rocket is 585 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: going to rain in to your house today. Zero. Yeah, 586 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: that's not one of the most lots of places. One 587 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: of the most interesting things I've ever learned about psychology 588 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: is that human beings seem to have a set point 589 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: for how much they need to worry, and if they 590 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: have little or nothing to worry about, the invent things 591 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: to worry about because they have to have that. It's 592 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: part of our animal psychology. Let's see how about this 593 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: JT and Livermore. I agree with Joe that the best 594 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: way to discredit lefty ideas is to implement them, unless 595 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: it isn't take the teach. For the record, I don't 596 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: advocate implementing them. I'm just saying if they are implemented, 597 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: they will be the most scathing indictment possible of those policies. 598 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: But anyway. Take the teachers unions. They implemented their policy 599 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: of getting rid of phonics, the most successful reading program 600 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: in the history of the world, and replaced it with 601 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: an unproven whole word concept that created worse outcomes for 602 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: many many children. Man my kids lived through that era. 603 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: They were betrayed. They were seriously betrayed. While it did 604 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: expose the left's willingness to experiment with children's educations absent 605 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: any proof that their new and improved concept was better 606 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: than phonics, the price for exposing their stupidity was way 607 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: too high, only a generation of children that have lower 608 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: and worse reading outcomes. Or take Biden's open border policy. 609 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: It exposed the stupidity of the left's love affair with 610 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: the legal immigration, but at the cost of education, healthcare, culture, 611 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: to say nothing of the financial cost. Voting in Mamdami 612 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: in New York would be like those examples. Sure, it 613 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: would once again discredit the ideas the Left, but at 614 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a cost that is simply too high. So I'd like 615 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: to amend your philosophy. The best way to discredit left 616 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: the ideas is to implement them, but only if they 617 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: can be confined to being implemented against left and only lefties. 618 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Let liberals opt in for the whole world reading and 619 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: new math and restorative justice, but don't expect me to 620 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: fund their failures. Amen to that, brother Boo. Yeah, truth 621 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: p T for the win, as they say, truth Bob, 622 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: that's right. I was just watching a video on CNN 623 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: with China's best robots, the robot dogs and robot athletes, 624 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: which they're going to use as soldiers. Horrifying, absolutely horrifying. 625 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: We've got more to talk about. 626 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: Stay with us, Armstrong and Getty