Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
Speaker 1: production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and and this is a cut to
Speaker 1: it bonus episode. Good Do Good, Do good. That's getting
Speaker 1: down to do it, Good do it. We're rolling these
Speaker 1: things on how was your Christmas? Christmas? Police? Christmas? Was
Speaker 1: Christmas was great? Why was it great? The reason Christmas
Speaker 1: is great is spent time with family? What kind of family?
Speaker 1: What kind of family? Like the media? Was it outside?
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to get you busted. I'm married,
Speaker 1: So I have a wife. Have her name wonderful, so
Speaker 1: she is very Let me talk about my family, and
Speaker 1: you have I'll kick your coverage continue. So and she's
Speaker 1: super smart, but I don't know about her comment sense
Speaker 1: because she's married to you. You got all of that,
Speaker 1: just them now so that I can talk with you.
Speaker 1: You don't continue to to interrupt interrupts. We haven't. So
Speaker 1: it's not yesterday. Bro. You're great, You're great. We already
Speaker 1: discussed this. You're great. You're what great? You're greatness? Greatness?
Speaker 1: I'm not great. There's only one that's great, and neither
Speaker 1: of us. I like that answer. We're gonna roll with
Speaker 1: that answer. I like that one. So yeah, prisoners great
Speaker 1: because I s been telling my wife Emmony, son Tyson,
Speaker 1: daughter Mia. And so for me, just getting a chance
Speaker 1: to just reset, really realizing what the whole point of
Speaker 1: the holidays is about, which is not about exchanging gifts.
Speaker 1: It's not about what you got, not about what you gave.
Speaker 1: We put that in them early so she know all
Speaker 1: about it's not about her, It's not about what you got.
Speaker 1: So so for me it was great. How about yours?
Speaker 1: It was good? All that and all you all you
Speaker 1: gave me, it was good. Yeah, about right, It was
Speaker 1: good because it was relaxing. How just like you said
Speaker 1: at the reset, um, I think we put so much
Speaker 1: emphasis or we not no more, nobody more than ourselves.
Speaker 1: We put so much emphasis on the gifts and how
Speaker 1: special and intentional to gifts maybe, and then we try
Speaker 1: to wrap them. And then if you if you struggle,
Speaker 1: if you're in the struggling department of rapping, um, then
Speaker 1: you are you know, self conscious of that. So just
Speaker 1: all of all the self conscious about your gift wrapping.
Speaker 1: If you are married or know someone who knows how
Speaker 1: to gift rap, and you are very poor gift wrapping.
Speaker 1: I think everybody does. Man, I mean there's some things
Speaker 1: I'm self conscious about. There's some things I worry about.
Speaker 1: But where the or not a gift wrapped correctly? That
Speaker 1: ain't how my list of g f s I got. No,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I'm actually a pretty decent, decent, decent meaning
Speaker 1: let's just throw if I have five gifts, three of
Speaker 1: them gonna be a beast. The last two. Man, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna put these together. We get what that guy is,
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna give you. Like my gift wrapping energy
Speaker 1: depletes very fat because I will listen. I will stuff
Speaker 1: your stuff in a gift bag and keep it moving. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So who's our guest? Who do we have today? Well,
Speaker 1: we are guests. Let's not buy not because we don't
Speaker 1: have guests who know it's our it's our episode the
Speaker 1: cold head and talk about little things. Give give, give
Speaker 1: the cut to a crew, and an opportunity to kind
Speaker 1: of hear what's on our on our craniums, what's going
Speaker 1: on in our lives. All of that. Reflect Reflection is
Speaker 1: extremely important. How would you reflect? Start from the top,
Speaker 1: work your way down. Okay, so is this like a.
Speaker 1: This is an open as you say, I'm still one
Speaker 1: of your lines. This is an open book test. But
Speaker 1: is this open ended? It's not multiple choice. I don't
Speaker 1: have an I don't have a I I was gonna ask,
Speaker 1: is this kind of like an estimate? Uh, like from
Speaker 1: a vendor, because I like to know the price before
Speaker 1: you show me the picture. This isn't like I'm not
Speaker 1: providing you with a with a service a question. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's not a vendor. Um. Reflect it started. It
Speaker 1: started about this time last year, right after you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, right around Christmas time New Year's we started
Speaker 1: to see there were some things going on. There's there
Speaker 1: were some rumblies about a virus and how is that
Speaker 1: going to impact and what is it gonna look like?
Speaker 1: And we didn't take it as serious or we didn't
Speaker 1: have all of the intel of the information to know
Speaker 1: how serious it was. Um. And so for me fast
Speaker 1: forward like two months after this, start to really question like, man,
Speaker 1: what's going on? What is this? What are we gonna
Speaker 1: look like? And so we're gonna you know, we start
Speaker 1: to go into lockdown or start to you know that
Speaker 1: we possibly may have that and the fear monster is
Speaker 1: on full alert, really trying times. When when you say
Speaker 1: fear monster, fear monster for me, I use the word
Speaker 1: fear monster of when you talk about, you know, the
Speaker 1: fear of something, the fear of if they do this.
Speaker 1: These are all the things that I would have to
Speaker 1: deal with or address. And then what are those ramifications?
Speaker 1: How does it impact not just my family but my
Speaker 1: next door neighbors family, How does my neighborhood look at this?
Speaker 1: How does the other neighborhoods look at this? It's just
Speaker 1: the fear monster is It's a small little ball of
Speaker 1: snow that's going down a very steep hill, and it
Speaker 1: is gathering more, more speed, more junk, and more, and
Speaker 1: no one really knows and no one can slow it down.
Speaker 1: And yet you have, for me, to some degree, every
Speaker 1: available access or anything at your disposal of information or
Speaker 1: or knowing this person, knowing that person, and it ain't
Speaker 1: nothing you could do about it. When you when you
Speaker 1: say information was it was it for a lot of
Speaker 1: people those information overload, Oh definitely, I started to do.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the news, I watch seeing then
Speaker 1: I watched I watched the news already because I like
Speaker 1: to just know something of what's going on. Because outside
Speaker 1: of that, I don't listen to my local my local news.
Speaker 1: I don't watch it as much because a lot of
Speaker 1: times when it's on, we're doing homework where you know,
Speaker 1: we're doing something family wise. That just sitting in front
Speaker 1: of a television watching the news. It's not the time
Speaker 1: we have. I'm I'm running someone to an event, We're
Speaker 1: running to this store to buy a art poster, and
Speaker 1: we're doing projects and so there's or um, it's getting
Speaker 1: like it's getting darker sooner, so we gotta get this,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta take the dog out for a walk,
Speaker 1: or you gotta we gotta go play catch, or we
Speaker 1: gotta do something active that that five thirty six o'clock
Speaker 1: news is not something I'm watching, right, you know. And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's why football has become later and
Speaker 1: later as sports, because that that for the six fifteen,
Speaker 1: most families aren't watching TV. Most families aren't even in
Speaker 1: their homes. They're either on the road, they're picking up,
Speaker 1: dropping off, standing standing he used to be standing in
Speaker 1: line for food or standing or something. It depends on
Speaker 1: It depends on the families, depends on the family sitting
Speaker 1: on their in their car, grabbing take out, grabbing food,
Speaker 1: as their little ones go to certain different events, so
Speaker 1: much buzziness, and in that business, I believe the virus
Speaker 1: made us stop think, um, retool, refocus, and it exposed.
Speaker 1: It exposed blind spots, blind blind spots. What was that
Speaker 1: business all along? Well, for some people, it's allowed them
Speaker 1: to slow down that they didn't even know what I say, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they have no idea. For myself that blind spot
Speaker 1: has been that I didn't know is in my football career.
Speaker 1: I always have football as a measuring stick of how
Speaker 1: hard I could push myself, Um, how how much mental
Speaker 1: fortitude do I have? How much high pain tolerance? All
Speaker 1: these things about bang bang bang bang bang bang? And
Speaker 1: when I decided to walk away from football, I didn't
Speaker 1: have those that those measuring sticks, those goals, and well
Speaker 1: I just I literally unintentionally completely cold turkey. Did I
Speaker 1: just quit? I just quit having those things and didn't
Speaker 1: realize them. You know what has happened is as I've
Speaker 1: started now to run, because I've become an avid runner,
Speaker 1: I started to realize that we were just talking about
Speaker 1: this the other day, and that's what part this conversation
Speaker 1: on here is this little treadmill I have. It doesn't
Speaker 1: move unless I push your button and it's plugged up.
Speaker 1: It doesn't talk, but it's already pre pre programmed on
Speaker 1: the speaking because depends on which program I touch for
Speaker 1: it to go. But what's crazy is I've discovered more
Speaker 1: about myself and almost looking at my moledge since COVID
Speaker 1: started mm hmm, I have learned out of a hundred
Speaker 1: and eight runs, two hundred, two hundred sixty miles, I
Speaker 1: have learned so many things about myself and the last
Speaker 1: probably has really been amplified by that treadmill. So what what,
Speaker 1: what exactly have you learned about yourself? I have earned
Speaker 1: that for the first time, I've been failing athletically. And
Speaker 1: I said this to you yesterday, and you said, because
Speaker 1: you don't, you're not. You know you're you're you're not
Speaker 1: the athlete used to be an age and it didn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do that it had to do with
Speaker 1: this treadmill. Is like life in this run is I
Speaker 1: can't push through a forty five minute mile in the
Speaker 1: first ten minutes and think I'll have enough energy for
Speaker 1: the next thirty or the next thirty five minutes. I
Speaker 1: must learn how to be steady, Eddie, I must learn
Speaker 1: how to pace myself. I must learn how two as
Speaker 1: I use buckle up buttercup on the conditioning roller coaster
Speaker 1: of running, because in football I was always if I couldn't,
Speaker 1: if I lost on press coverage display, I had the
Speaker 1: next play. If you get fatigued and you start off
Speaker 1: too fast in a five mile run, you can't run
Speaker 1: faster to get out of it. And really, my comment
Speaker 1: yesterday was more so is it is it? Are you
Speaker 1: relating to alter performance or how does this? How does
Speaker 1: this parallel to life like your day to day? It's
Speaker 1: both And the reason I say it's both is because
Speaker 1: it's allowed me. One why I love the running is
Speaker 1: it's allowed me unlike football. It's allowed me to stop
Speaker 1: comparing myself and focus on myself. There you go. And
Speaker 1: then when I'm running, my pace has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with who I am. If I run a slow pace
Speaker 1: and does not mean I'm a failure. If I run
Speaker 1: a slow pace, it does not mean I am soft,
Speaker 1: I am uh a reject um, I am not unique,
Speaker 1: I am not a special person. It doesn't mean any
Speaker 1: of that. It just means, brother, you tired or you
Speaker 1: need to slow down, or you need to take a
Speaker 1: walking rest versus versus an active recovery, and so just
Speaker 1: just the differences. And so I'm knowing and noticing in
Speaker 1: this holiday time where I focus on the family, I've
Speaker 1: also started focusing on, well, I'm gonna just run today,
Speaker 1: but not really having a goal. So then now I've
Speaker 1: started to plateau because now I'm just running to run
Speaker 1: verst just running with a purpose. There have been sometimes
Speaker 1: and I don't know why, because maybe I've been distracted
Speaker 1: because of holidays. For this last three weeks, I've just
Speaker 1: been running with no purpose. But I've been getting up
Speaker 1: with a purpose, but I've kind of forgotten as I
Speaker 1: have a purpose, I must have a plan. I was
Speaker 1: so kind of stealing my thunder a little bit for
Speaker 1: someone who's listening right now who maybe isn't as performance based.
Speaker 1: Like we kind of talked about, how would you what
Speaker 1: kind of advice would you give that person as there
Speaker 1: may be wrapping up, what have you learned from running
Speaker 1: on the treadmill that you could apply and pass on
Speaker 1: to someone Because you started giving nuggets and some of
Speaker 1: our podcasts as I'm I'm enough, you know some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that you've been that you've been reading. What
Speaker 1: would you how would you relate that to the common folks? Well, one,
Speaker 1: I think an athlete, there's a common Absolutely, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a I know sometimes you you it's athletes
Speaker 1: and non athletes, But how how would you tie those
Speaker 1: to both? Whether we want to or not, We all
Speaker 1: get up, you know, some people don't. But most people
Speaker 1: and I don't know who, but most people they you know,
Speaker 1: they put there on their where on one leg at
Speaker 1: a time, and the double leg is probably a little
Speaker 1: bit different. Creative, you know, some commando so I tried to,
Speaker 1: but whatever the circumstance, and then you put on your
Speaker 1: jeans and your shoes and your socks. There is your
Speaker 1: process you have to formulate, and I believe right down
Speaker 1: your process. Don't let it just don't let it just
Speaker 1: float in your head, because when you're allowed to float
Speaker 1: in your head, it easily gets distracted, It easily is forgotten,
Speaker 1: it easily is sidetracked because especially parents, you have you
Speaker 1: ever had that that conversation where you guys are talking
Speaker 1: and you and your significant other are vibing, jelling, having
Speaker 1: a great conversation about nothing, and then that those two
Speaker 1: words that are blessing and a curse mommy or dad,
Speaker 1: depends on the context. And and I say that because me,
Speaker 1: you know me and you have had our our kids
Speaker 1: at the at the office and Stephen g are talking
Speaker 1: and Mia says daddy, Deuce says daddy, And we have
Speaker 1: to stop what we're doing. And I'm not complaining. But
Speaker 1: then when we come back to it, pick up where
Speaker 1: you left off. Yes, and and and depends on whether
Speaker 1: our kids are asking you get so it takes Try
Speaker 1: to try working at home like so many other people
Speaker 1: have done. During it is so easy to get sidetracked
Speaker 1: and just get pulled down into the weeds and next
Speaker 1: thing you know, you're completely off track with You go
Speaker 1: from talking about sounds funny. You go from talking about budgeting,
Speaker 1: talking about what you guys are gonna do economics, Na
Speaker 1: yeah or too uh zebra gamer to gamer girl to
Speaker 1: Minecraft to hockey right too. We're playing hockey like I was,
Speaker 1: literally it's funny. It's I gotta do. See a little
Speaker 1: hockey set and it had a street hockey, so I
Speaker 1: had a ball versus a puck. My man was stuck
Speaker 1: about ten minutes on where's the puck? Doucy's there's the ball,
Speaker 1: but where's the puck. I'm literally like, bro, it's a ball,
Speaker 1: not the puck. Stuck right, he was officially stuck that
Speaker 1: it was no puck. And where am I going with this?
Speaker 1: That's the whole point side tracked. Yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: having a having a plan, having a purpose, having direction,
Speaker 1: writing it down can really assist you in not forgetting
Speaker 1: and also gives you a when we when sometimes we're
Speaker 1: gonna autopilot, allow us to get get back on course.
Speaker 1: But then I would say, also out of this has
Speaker 1: been the starter cut to it podcasts? What what has
Speaker 1: been I guess the fondest memory of starting this, going
Speaker 1: on this journey? What what is this podcast taught you?
Speaker 1: And where is this podcast going? M hm? You know
Speaker 1: what has taught me? Um? Really is the team atmosphere?
Speaker 1: Now I haven't and and when I say I'm not
Speaker 1: a team guy, I just mean and I'm not a
Speaker 1: team guy. As far as the trust factor, m hm, right, because, um,
Speaker 1: when you play a sport whereas it's team, but individuals
Speaker 1: must win their individual battles for the team to win
Speaker 1: the biggest game. So you there is some individualism that
Speaker 1: has to go on like, you can't help the left
Speaker 1: tackle go against that Pro bowler and the left tackle
Speaker 1: can't help you go against that Pro Bowl corner, right,
Speaker 1: you just gotta But does does your did the trust issues?
Speaker 1: Did it? Did it manifest itself from playing sports or
Speaker 1: was that there before? Way definitely before? Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: also two footballs. Footballs are sometimes depending on what kind
Speaker 1: of coach you have, it's it's full of people, just
Speaker 1: like anything else. Who are people are full to be asked. Um,
Speaker 1: you got some honest folks who are brutally honest, and
Speaker 1: you have some people who are gentle and honest, and
Speaker 1: you've got some people that just won't tell you the
Speaker 1: truth because they're afraid to tell the truth as well,
Speaker 1: and they're not being told the truth told the truth either,
Speaker 1: and then they're working. Like one of the things that's
Speaker 1: really difficult is the NFL. A lot of these sports
Speaker 1: teams are a business and it's and the coaches are
Speaker 1: all shiped a boardroom like at the table, and the
Speaker 1: head coach is told by the general manager, and the
Speaker 1: general manager represents the voice from no owner, and then
Speaker 1: a coach must disseminate what the general manager was told
Speaker 1: from the owner to to his his assistance, and then
Speaker 1: his assistance must take what they heard from the coach
Speaker 1: who received it from the general manager general manager received
Speaker 1: from the owner, and put their spin on it and
Speaker 1: tell it to the players in somewhere in that game
Speaker 1: of phone, somebody's gonna screw up the message. And then
Speaker 1: if you have all the other human elements of it,
Speaker 1: is the the messenger? What is his wounds, what are
Speaker 1: the things he's been through? What is he incapable of doing?
Speaker 1: Does he give the message neatly? Does he give the
Speaker 1: message with the heart? Does he give the message insensitive?
Speaker 1: Is he capable ball of delivering that message? And oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta play football game too. It just gets murky,
Speaker 1: and it happens. It happens a lot. And then you
Speaker 1: have the factor of money that's involved. You have the
Speaker 1: factor of other men livelihoods are involved. You have fifty
Speaker 1: sixty seventy forty year old men, depending on in some
Speaker 1: cases three some case thirty five thirty two year old
Speaker 1: men to do their jobs, which equals up to the
Speaker 1: coach being able to have money in this account to
Speaker 1: pay for his kids schooling, for gas. And it's just
Speaker 1: it is one of the most difficult businesses that happens
Speaker 1: to be on TV. Out there. People are under the
Speaker 1: oppression at playing football. It's easy, you know, the guys
Speaker 1: sit on the couch and do that. You know you
Speaker 1: can't because if you could, your ass wouldn't be seen
Speaker 1: on the couch. But in in, but in in all,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've been able to walk us through
Speaker 1: kind of how the business of the NFL. But we
Speaker 1: just entered the business of podcasts and what are what
Speaker 1: were some of the the highlights of working on cut
Speaker 1: Just talking to all the guests, hearing their different stories,
Speaker 1: hearing they're what they're, why they're, how they're what they're
Speaker 1: when they're where? Where were they wounded? Where were they congratulated?
Speaker 1: How you know? Where are they from? Why do they
Speaker 1: claim that town? Yeah? What are they made out of
Speaker 1: or made up of? What has impacted them the most?
Speaker 1: How it has impacted them? Really learning the individual. I
Speaker 1: am our introvert who is very inquisitive about people. You
Speaker 1: I would have never guess that a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know that though that a lot of people think
Speaker 1: one I think I'm better than people. So that's why
Speaker 1: I don't really want to as some people think that
Speaker 1: you think you're better than yeah, or I don't want
Speaker 1: to be bothered. I just love my privacy and I'm
Speaker 1: okay with just kind of like, so, what made you
Speaker 1: step out there and want to do a podcast? When
Speaker 1: you're doing this, You're you're you're kind of you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of having to do that, and I'm exhausted after,
Speaker 1: but like I can go to sleep, Um, because I
Speaker 1: think there is a narrative out there, and there is
Speaker 1: a there is a false narrative of you know, especially
Speaker 1: men who play sports that you know, one they're dumb
Speaker 1: or two treat it different or special more than others.
Speaker 1: I think that's why to disconnect between some fans and
Speaker 1: some players is fans, some fans believe players, you are
Speaker 1: at my dispose because I've paid a ticket or because
Speaker 1: I've came to this event or this luncheon or whatever
Speaker 1: sponsor event, that that you that you should give me
Speaker 1: something in return. Is that that's what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: and it's not true, And I think that's is I
Speaker 1: would assume that's probably one of the reasons why you
Speaker 1: want to start this podcast in the first place, to
Speaker 1: to to showcase and highlight folks in a different light
Speaker 1: and for people to know, like we say all the
Speaker 1: time to people to know who's under the jersey, what
Speaker 1: makes them, where do they come from? That they are
Speaker 1: people too, or you are forced to now to listen
Speaker 1: about something more than that nice catch, that nice drive,
Speaker 1: that nice shot instead of just one thing. Right, It's
Speaker 1: tough sometimes snap or want. I just watch social media
Speaker 1: sometimes on a game and how disrespectful fans can be
Speaker 1: two players. So I just so I like this doing
Speaker 1: this podcast because it gives a human element of whoever
Speaker 1: you are rooting for. They have a mother, the mother
Speaker 1: more than that they're they're more than their performance on
Speaker 1: the field. I feel like that's such a big differentation
Speaker 1: from our podcast to so many other podcasts or shows
Speaker 1: or whatever other sports content there is. That's that's the
Speaker 1: differentation because I think there's two there. I think there's
Speaker 1: two points. There's that point to where we're giving content
Speaker 1: that you typically don't get. We're not asking what's your
Speaker 1: what's your performance? Like you know, it's funny some people
Speaker 1: don't like our content because it's not everyone they have.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have people that like it. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: people that don't like it. We're not making it for
Speaker 1: the people who don't like. You have a choice to
Speaker 1: not consume it. Just like with anything else I can go.
Speaker 1: I can go to Macy's and I can pick out
Speaker 1: that jacket or that jacket capitalism. I have a choice,
Speaker 1: right so so um so, I think that's a differentation.
Speaker 1: I think the differentation to it, in my opinion, is
Speaker 1: that we're too host to where you play professional I
Speaker 1: did not. I am a former athlete. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I always trying to give the perspective of, um,
Speaker 1: the person that's sitting here, whether it's or I get
Speaker 1: feedback from my boys, where is that man? That's the athlete,
Speaker 1: and the the professional athlete and the athlete you know,
Speaker 1: and then the fan like there are sometimes you ask
Speaker 1: me questions. I'm like, man, that is the dumbest question ever.
Speaker 1: And then I will say something and I can see
Speaker 1: on your face You're like, man, that's the dumbest professional
Speaker 1: athlete answer every like so, but health question. But so
Speaker 1: the question becomes why would you have me as a
Speaker 1: co host in the first place? Like why And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that for you to question it, but I
Speaker 1: think that is the good dynamic though, because you love
Speaker 1: many you look at so many other podcasts and is
Speaker 1: two former players, or maybe there's a former player and
Speaker 1: a former journalists or someone who is a former analyst.
Speaker 1: Why have this dynamic because that is very it's very unique. Well,
Speaker 1: one is we have a good enough friendship that you
Speaker 1: can give me the dumb look and I give you
Speaker 1: the dumb look, but we still keep it moving. Now,
Speaker 1: sometimes we may have to take a breather from each other,
Speaker 1: but we we thrive off. Well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: come off stupid, are you or vice verse or me?
Speaker 1: And so it's this balance, Like we'll have a guest
Speaker 1: and you'll come up with a question. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: hate that question. Or a producer will come up to
Speaker 1: who's Meredith? Who is not who knows nothing about sports?
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of it because she will the
Speaker 1: research team, will you guys will give me something? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not asking that dude that And they're like, why not?
Speaker 1: Because it's stupid. It's and you guys have heard me,
Speaker 1: and it's low hanging fruit. And what I mean by
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit is the low hanging fruit would be
Speaker 1: what's that catch, like when you got that touchdown? What
Speaker 1: was that like? But we don't we don't. We don't
Speaker 1: really ask that, I know. But let's go through it though.
Speaker 1: Let's like I think people do. They're like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: what we're saying. Is the difference of why we have
Speaker 1: people like you don't ask that kind of stuff because
Speaker 1: that's easy. What was that drop? Like, well, I dropped
Speaker 1: the ball, like I know that, right, But there are
Speaker 1: some people who literally, well, what were you thinking when
Speaker 1: you dropped that? But that's that's that's the that that
Speaker 1: is the that's what you get at the end of
Speaker 1: the game, right, That's what that journalists is gonna end
Speaker 1: of the game. Tell us tell us about that catch,
Speaker 1: tell us about that miss shot, tell us about you
Speaker 1: know that pitch that was going inside and that dude
Speaker 1: smacked the head. Hell, I love it. And now it's
Speaker 1: in the upper deck right, Like, that's just we headed
Speaker 1: a poster. Now, that's not a person, that's a poster now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think that is that goes back to my
Speaker 1: point of I think that's the differentation because we we
Speaker 1: don't ask that. Now, there are things where we asked.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you to let me ask you
Speaker 1: as a fan, as a guy who played UM, not professionally,
Speaker 1: but you played, you played high enough to know the
Speaker 1: ins and outs of sports. What am I missing as
Speaker 1: a fan because I I was a professional athlete? What
Speaker 1: are you missing? Because you know me well enough, you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, like, sometimes people ask me something, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know about that one. I think
Speaker 1: that one right there. We both do a really good
Speaker 1: job of going It's like we say, we we go
Speaker 1: beyond the jersey and we want to find out who
Speaker 1: who the person is well, so we do a good
Speaker 1: job of that. I think sometimes it's giving the people
Speaker 1: the flowers why they can still smell them, if that's
Speaker 1: kind of it, of of celebrating what they've done. There.
Speaker 1: There are times where it's kind of peeling back. UM.
Speaker 1: You think it's corny because you don't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: talk about what you've done on the field. You are
Speaker 1: a UM. I think the perception sometimes is you are
Speaker 1: a very UM celebrated athlete. But I know for you,
Speaker 1: as my friend, my brother, that you don't necessarily even
Speaker 1: want to talk about all this stuff. You don't even
Speaker 1: look at yourself in the upper echelon of football players,
Speaker 1: wild receivers, whatever category. When you toss all that to
Speaker 1: to the side. Whereas our listeners I probably want to
Speaker 1: hear that the overwhelming majority are probably going to be
Speaker 1: sports fans, so they do want to hear some of
Speaker 1: the stuff of well, why did you pick that college right?
Speaker 1: Or what was it like getting drafted by that team?
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just pulling stuff down of of
Speaker 1: the the wall of the athletic performance. But I do
Speaker 1: think where we both agree, right and as we we've
Speaker 1: kind of talked about how we wanted to formulate this episode,
Speaker 1: what we both agree is I don't really care because
Speaker 1: I tell you this all the time. Personally, I don't
Speaker 1: really care that much about age and eight and nine.
Speaker 1: My friend is Steve An. That's who I admire. I
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you've done on the field. I appreciate
Speaker 1: what it's done for so many people. I appreciate um
Speaker 1: how it's benefited so many people. But I'm with you
Speaker 1: with you like if I would have met you when
Speaker 1: you were ah, if you worked at K Jewelry, we
Speaker 1: still be boys. I love that commercial. So that's what
Speaker 1: I'm That's or two favorite commercials Joseph A banker. So yeah,
Speaker 1: if you would have worked at Joseph A Banks or
Speaker 1: I don't care, alleys, like just whatever, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: like you still you still you'd still be my boy.
Speaker 1: So like for me and I'm kind of going off
Speaker 1: on a tangent, but for me, it's like, um, where
Speaker 1: we both agree is we want to get to know
Speaker 1: that person. So I know you. So that's why I
Speaker 1: think we both applied that too. As we bring these
Speaker 1: guests on, appreciate that one thing I've discovered in myself.
Speaker 1: I look at the negative of every situation. Huh. I
Speaker 1: would have never ever you you glass half empty? You know,
Speaker 1: glasses not half empty, glasses cracked? You where have always
Speaker 1: been that way? Yeah, I've always been that way, and
Speaker 1: I can't for the life of me, I can't trace
Speaker 1: back where it started. But I struggle. When I say struggle,
Speaker 1: it'll be like drinking a gallon of milk in one
Speaker 1: goal struggle. I struggled to see, well, why don't you
Speaker 1: like this playoff team? What is it about this playoff
Speaker 1: team that makes you hesitant to say that they're gonna
Speaker 1: go far? So those are the conversations journal journalistically I have,
Speaker 1: so I tried to give that answer on television of
Speaker 1: why what I've really been working on is examine the negative,
Speaker 1: because that that's the uniqueness of me. Right, but also fine,
Speaker 1: some some good things too, smooth out that you don't
Speaker 1: always have to be prepared for the worst like and
Speaker 1: what I mean. What I mean by that is if
Speaker 1: I'm talking about all the playoff teams, I cannavolve why
Speaker 1: these playoff teams are struggling at the end, if I
Speaker 1: hear you correctly, where you sometimes struggle is what did
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Deals do well? Yes? And the reason why
Speaker 1: I struggle with that is because as an athlete, it
Speaker 1: is not You can't run a twenty six mile marathon
Speaker 1: and not hydrate days before, not do a pre run,
Speaker 1: not stretch, not know what time to race starts like
Speaker 1: all of that preparation and planning. Because sometimes in this
Speaker 1: fake world of Instagram and Twitter, we just want to
Speaker 1: show you the finished product. We don't want you to
Speaker 1: see the high you see the highlights, you don't see
Speaker 1: it between No, no, you don't even see the highlights
Speaker 1: right now with COVID, you're just seeing the finished product.
Speaker 1: They don't even want to show you the the process.
Speaker 1: That's what man, you can you get that same even
Speaker 1: even that even even that same thing as a Michael
Speaker 1: for everything and whether it's ESPN, whether it's personal social media,
Speaker 1: people always want to show you what looks good, but
Speaker 1: they don't ever want to show you the process. No
Speaker 1: one ever, no one ever puts on Instagram, Hey I'm
Speaker 1: up to two am cleaning out my inbox, Like no
Speaker 1: one never does that. But they're definitely post when they
Speaker 1: got the promotion. You know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the same thing. So for me is
Speaker 1: like finding that all right, that good stuff. Still talking
Speaker 1: about what because as an athlete, you also as a
Speaker 1: business person, you gotta know your blind spots because if
Speaker 1: you don't now now you you you're gonna lose money.
Speaker 1: You gotta know. Sometimes you gotta you have to know
Speaker 1: who's your weakest link. And sometimes even if if you're
Speaker 1: a boss, sometimes your weakest link. As being a business owner,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes the owner because you have to delegate. You
Speaker 1: gotta delegate. Say I can't micro manage all fifty employees.
Speaker 1: I can't micro manage all three employees, and I definitely
Speaker 1: can't manage micromanaged five thousand employees and then oh, throw
Speaker 1: the pandemic in there. For me, it's really going into
Speaker 1: going into one like hey, it's fine, let's continue to
Speaker 1: focus on trying to sharpen up my weaknesses, but also
Speaker 1: fine those good things that we can not not celebrate
Speaker 1: but make us aware that keep keeps us going and smiling.
Speaker 1: WHI you're skirting around celebrating. Why is that heart? Why
Speaker 1: is celebrating hard? Because you just st you just skirted
Speaker 1: smooth around. So yeah, definitely, because sometimes when we set,
Speaker 1: sometimes when we celebrate, that means it's a finnished product.
Speaker 1: For me, I mean just started. What if you celebrated,
Speaker 1: you celebrate. I did because I got my ass up
Speaker 1: in no. I think because there are some folks that
Speaker 1: did not get up in twenty. My next question you
Speaker 1: was gonna be why, And I think that's I think
Speaker 1: that's important. Like you do one, you do have to
Speaker 1: stop and celebrate. I don't think it's I don't think
Speaker 1: it is stopping celebrate, but you gotta keep it moving. Yes,
Speaker 1: but because people here, these are things that we agree,
Speaker 1: people here celebrate. I assume people here celebrate and it's
Speaker 1: a big party. When I say celebrate, I mean it's
Speaker 1: Paul's acknowledge, acknowledge for the for the moment. But then
Speaker 1: the next day or you know, ten hours, twelve and
Speaker 1: a half hours later, you get you get back to her.
Speaker 1: You start, you start, you get dressed, you shower, you
Speaker 1: do your run whatever it is, and then bang we go.
Speaker 1: But there are some people who celebrate and think, well
Speaker 1: I've a ry absolutely, Oh I'm good. Well look what
Speaker 1: I did last month. I launched the website. Were great,
Speaker 1: But you gotta get the work done, yes, Like you
Speaker 1: can't just launched the website and then well you got
Speaker 1: orders on the website. No, I don't ship you. You
Speaker 1: you the website developer. You're the shipper. Um you Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're doing what other personal goals you got? One of
Speaker 1: it is? You know? Just keep just really for me,
Speaker 1: just keep going personally understanding who I am, um, accepting
Speaker 1: who I am UM. That's big my my running and
Speaker 1: my working out. So I made a commitment with my
Speaker 1: workout guy, and this is real big for me. Is
Speaker 1: I am one of those guys. I'm a workout guy
Speaker 1: where I'm going to buy all the equipment. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have all outfits. I'm have all the supplements, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it all big before I start. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: that anymore. Why it hasn't not worked out for you?
Speaker 1: In the pants? I mean, I burned myself out. So
Speaker 1: what I may commit with with him is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: work out with you twice a week for three, six
Speaker 1: or five days. You got a year commitment from it,
Speaker 1: but just twice a week. The rest of the days
Speaker 1: of the week are on me. So I have someone
Speaker 1: who's gonna push me. Now, my workout guy. What I
Speaker 1: love about him is he pushes me and I can
Speaker 1: push back and we still get our work done. Because
Speaker 1: there are some workout people who you know, like, he'll
Speaker 1: be like, how are we feeling today? I say, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah. He's like, all right, let's go then,
Speaker 1: don't waste my time. I love that. So he's acknowledging.
Speaker 1: So one he's filling me out. I'm letting him know,
Speaker 1: don't fill me out, stop reading me. If I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be here, I wouldn't have got myself up,
Speaker 1: drove across town, took my pre workout, got dressed, do
Speaker 1: all of this stuff. Take the pre workout, you bet it.
Speaker 1: Get some sort of workout, yeah, but get all of
Speaker 1: this stuff, all of the things that it takes to
Speaker 1: go there. And now I gotta be bro, my I'm
Speaker 1: paying you to work me. I'm not paying you to
Speaker 1: counsel me or make me feel good like we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a job. Your job is this, And there are
Speaker 1: people sometimes you know, why why are you girl? It's
Speaker 1: it's six o'clock in the morning. I made this commitment.
Speaker 1: But the commitment isn't always roses and sunshine and lollipops
Speaker 1: and yes, and so it's like he gets me. I
Speaker 1: get him. So he's like, well, you better work today. Okay.
Speaker 1: So there are times, well he's been late. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're good, like you know that ain't He's like, man,
Speaker 1: just go alright cool. So I'll do a twenty minute
Speaker 1: warm up and then he comes and he's like, hey, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, let's go. And there's other times where
Speaker 1: I come in there he's like, how are you feeling
Speaker 1: to day? Don't waste my time and slow me down.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, let's get it there, right. So he's
Speaker 1: tough enough mentally he knows we're here to work. I
Speaker 1: don't have to be happy in my workout. I have
Speaker 1: to be sad in my workout. But i'mnna get this
Speaker 1: work done. And I hope you are ready to work
Speaker 1: me out. And I love that because he's he's mentally
Speaker 1: confident in himself and I'm gonna do my job. If
Speaker 1: Steve don't like it, you don't have to come back.
Speaker 1: And if I don't like it, I don't have to
Speaker 1: pay him to trade me. So we have we have
Speaker 1: a great understanding of employ you pushed me, Yes, you
Speaker 1: pushed me, I push you right. What's not working for me?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Like I had a hip low
Speaker 1: issue and so some of what I was doing He
Speaker 1: was like, bro uh, I'm like, man, this is hurting
Speaker 1: you know my this messed up my hip because I
Speaker 1: literally had to. We were doing something on treadmill was
Speaker 1: like fifteen and fifteen, and I was going incline and
Speaker 1: incline and my hip flexor slash quad sent me a
Speaker 1: little wanner shot and it a little burning sensation went
Speaker 1: down my quad, Like hey, because I was doing so
Speaker 1: much running at a slower speed that I've slowed down
Speaker 1: my fast twitch a little bit. So we have to
Speaker 1: work on that and I'm like, oh he's I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: my help, and he was like, oh, let's you know.
Speaker 1: So we've adapted. But just his ability to adapt, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to punk out of the workout, just adapting.
Speaker 1: So I that's what I've learned. And so my commitment
Speaker 1: to him is a full year. But in that commitment,
Speaker 1: I'm pushing myself. Every month. Something is I'm increasing, I'm changing,
Speaker 1: I'm getting stronger, but I don't measure it up to
Speaker 1: when I was thirty one. I was able to do this,
Speaker 1: and now in forty one, I'm not. When I was
Speaker 1: thirty one, I thought I knew all answers. Now on
Speaker 1: forty one, I'm going, yeah, need help, And it's okay
Speaker 1: to not know. Actually I have comfort and not knowing,
Speaker 1: like sometimes even what else we're doing our rundown and
Speaker 1: we're talking. I said an email, Hey guys, I need
Speaker 1: help with dep. Three. I need help with question question one.
Speaker 1: That is that is sometimes the biggest trade leadership right there.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you? I mean you want me, I could,
Speaker 1: I could. I can tell you what you want to hear,
Speaker 1: but you know me. It's true, and you know me,
Speaker 1: all right, what's uh, what are our goals for the show?
Speaker 1: Give the people what cut two it is gonna be
Speaker 1: uh presenting to them? Continue to personally divote some of
Speaker 1: the things that we have went through in our past,
Speaker 1: what we're going through currently, what how we handle anticipate
Speaker 1: moving forward? Um here, what our athletes are struggling with,
Speaker 1: what they have experienced as a child. How has it
Speaker 1: impacted them? How did they cope with it? What? What not?
Speaker 1: What was that like? But how did it impact you? What?
Speaker 1: What experiences did you have? What's that? What's their self
Speaker 1: care regiment life? Self care is important. I don't think
Speaker 1: sometimes you know who doesn't do a very good job
Speaker 1: of self care? Oh okay, I'm just being I can
Speaker 1: raise my hand and be transparent moms. Oh m hm.
Speaker 1: The dynamic of and since ebone is in here, so
Speaker 1: we use ebone. The dynamic of is she Eboney the wife,
Speaker 1: Ebney the daughter, Eboney the mommy? And how do you
Speaker 1: shift gears? And then how does she shift gears to yes,
Speaker 1: ebony entrepreneur? How does she shift gears to just ebony
Speaker 1: for two hours? Like not mom, not not no no label,
Speaker 1: just ebony, like just two hours if you just give
Speaker 1: yourself two hours of you sometimes just vegging out. And
Speaker 1: when I say VEGINI I'm not talking. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about you. You're not consuming anything, you're not making decisions,
Speaker 1: just having that moment and whatever that is like. And
Speaker 1: then on discovering learning what recharges you? You know what
Speaker 1: recharges me? Man? I love movies. Yeah again, just watching
Speaker 1: the Good Wins over the Break. Oh yeah, I love
Speaker 1: informational movies. I'm kind of a weird though, that's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I love. I love a good documentary.
Speaker 1: You know. Show I'm loving right into two shows Life
Speaker 1: below zero, Okay on Discovery where they're in Alaska and
Speaker 1: my wife is so wants that this brother ain't doing it,
Speaker 1: wants to Alaska is self sufficiency I'm talking about. They're
Speaker 1: building everything, like you can buy your land and your
Speaker 1: land is just land land in Alaska. Yeah, Like it's
Speaker 1: like twenty acres and it's just tree bark and whatever
Speaker 1: else on there, and you got to build everything and
Speaker 1: it ain't and there is no power lines or buried
Speaker 1: line lines. It's bananas. Now. Unfortunately a lot of the
Speaker 1: men are on there, they don't have significant others. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was the show Traffic. It's on Discovery.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the lady's name, but it's awesome. It
Speaker 1: goes through, uh, it goes through the final how that's distributed.
Speaker 1: It's a different, something different every episode. Scamming on on
Speaker 1: the telemarketers, um scamming, uh, the pimps and pimps and
Speaker 1: um holes on that. And it's just talking about what
Speaker 1: the each part of that prostitution game of how it
Speaker 1: impacts the the gentleman, how it impacts the women, the process,
Speaker 1: how they go through all that stuff. It's just I
Speaker 1: love that stuff because it gives me such a dynamic
Speaker 1: understanding of people. I love people watching because that also
Speaker 1: allows me to watch people and be able to sniff
Speaker 1: out little behaviors in that individual when I sit down
Speaker 1: face to face whenever it comes back to during the interview,
Speaker 1: because I can ask a question and what they do
Speaker 1: and how their voice reflects or deflects on on the
Speaker 1: question of when they hear it, how they respond, and
Speaker 1: then the process in which they're going through to answer.
Speaker 1: It tells me that was a trigger. They didn't like that.
Speaker 1: That's uncomfortable. Oh dig deeper. It sounds like it sounds
Speaker 1: like you're podcasting right now. I've been doing it for years.
Speaker 1: I could have been a profiler, oh like just watching
Speaker 1: people like and then why did you not do that?
Speaker 1: What were you thinking? So it goes between twenty one.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask people a ton of different questions, get
Speaker 1: different perspectives, talk about their self care and anything else
Speaker 1: you want to do with this podcast as we take it,
Speaker 1: just allowed a conversation to direct the show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'll tell you what, man, I think we'd be
Speaker 1: remiss if we didn't think all the people who make
Speaker 1: this show happen backstage Joe. You know, I was just
Speaker 1: gonna go around Robin and then the plane go ahead.
Speaker 1: Co host backstage Joe who always um Man handles so
Speaker 1: much for us behind the scenes, whether it's our business operations,
Speaker 1: whether it is booking guests, booking talent, working with those reps.
Speaker 1: You've got Brian Bought two, Chevic be Squared, who is
Speaker 1: our who's one of our hit producers? Who makes this
Speaker 1: podcast sound amazing? You got Sarah back there on the
Speaker 1: production team, Meredith Carter hold on with Sarah. We we're
Speaker 1: just thankful some mouse and not a staring wheel. You
Speaker 1: got a Meredith Carter, who's our who's our producer. As
Speaker 1: you've mentioned before, it just does an amazing job of
Speaker 1: always pushing us, giving us things to ask. A lot
Speaker 1: of the times when you're listening to this podcast, she
Speaker 1: has formulated some of our questions for us. A lot
Speaker 1: of our stuff comes natural, but a lot of our
Speaker 1: stuff is we're really meticulous about going through before and
Speaker 1: that gives us stuff sometimes in the interview in the podcast,
Speaker 1: Hey what about this, I'm like, no, you gotta so
Speaker 1: she does. She does an amazing job of just setting
Speaker 1: us up for success. Um, we've got Peyton Smith, our
Speaker 1: social media manager, who's done an amazing job of building
Speaker 1: our social media presence from scratch. We had absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: So he's done an amazing job. And then shout out
Speaker 1: to you like you are the the the the brains
Speaker 1: behind the operation. You're the you're the hit hunt. Well,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that hit HP I c hit podcaster in charge. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that. Well, I love doing this but also
Speaker 1: love um. When we started doing this and I said
Speaker 1: that I would love for you to be the co host,
Speaker 1: you it was not the plan. That was not whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable doing what Brian and his team does.
Speaker 1: That's always been me. I've been behind the scenes, dude,
Speaker 1: the entire time. But this is stretched. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to take your thunder. This is this has stretched me.
Speaker 1: This has uh, this has made me grow and finding
Speaker 1: my voice. You know, like, so you didn't have a voice,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna say I didn't have a voice,
Speaker 1: but I would say in in in this particularly because
Speaker 1: to your point, when we when I kept, for lack
Speaker 1: of better words, getting you're nervous about doing this two
Speaker 1: years when I when I when we, I was I
Speaker 1: was standing in my garage driveway and You're like, man,
Speaker 1: let's do it. And this is in the middle of
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It started in I started in Yeah say
Speaker 1: it started in Colorado. But I'm saying when you finally
Speaker 1: said you wanted to do it, we were home by that.
Speaker 1: It was like a week after afterwards, and uh and
Speaker 1: you said, yeah, let's do it, but you gotta be
Speaker 1: co host. And I'm like, huh what like that was?
Speaker 1: It was never ever my playing my attention. So uh,
Speaker 1: now that stretched me and I think we're we're getting
Speaker 1: better because of it. I love I love you doing
Speaker 1: it because I think you doll it back for me
Speaker 1: because I don't know what it's like not to play
Speaker 1: professional football. Yeah, I don't know what it's like not
Speaker 1: to look at sports or look at a athlete non professionally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you give me a balance because you didn't play
Speaker 1: professional sports. Show you look at it this way. And
Speaker 1: I'll look at that as a business wise too, because
Speaker 1: I've worked in the business before. Always try to Um.
Speaker 1: I look at things from a fan perspective. But I'm
Speaker 1: also I'm a terrible fan. I'm not a really fan
Speaker 1: of of anything any team. I'm a I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of Carolina North Carolina basketball, and that is like I'm
Speaker 1: not a a fan, but you are a fan because
Speaker 1: I consume sports. So yeah. But but I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, I'm not the fan boy,
Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I'm not saying that. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: at a sporting event. There are two people. There's the
Speaker 1: people that are watching and the people that are participating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. The reason I'm not a fan of it
Speaker 1: is other than work, I don't consume it. Oh man, listen,
Speaker 1: I think one of the one of the benefits going
Speaker 1: back to my wife. My wife is not a huge
Speaker 1: sports fan, and I love that because of what I've
Speaker 1: said before, Like I've I've worked in PR for professional
Speaker 1: basketball team, I've worked in sports marketing before. You have
Speaker 1: to consume where I think where you're going is, you
Speaker 1: have to consume it so much to where when I'm home,
Speaker 1: I want to unplug. So we'll be watching something like
Speaker 1: a fiance or just something to worry. What you're saying,
Speaker 1: like vegging out is because I would struggle with my
Speaker 1: wife was a big football fan. Like we both woke
Speaker 1: up Sunday morning and I'm trying to fix coffee and
Speaker 1: she's talking about her fantasy football lineup. That would that
Speaker 1: would irritate me. So I love that Yen and yang
Speaker 1: dynamic that we have. So you have to have that
Speaker 1: balance around this time. There comes one or two days
Speaker 1: I am tired of football. You have to unplug. Like
Speaker 1: when I say tired of it, like literally, hey, Dad's
Speaker 1: I don't care. I would have to to protect your peace, man,
Speaker 1: I would rather watch when Deuce is watching the show
Speaker 1: called nature Cats. I love it all right, nature Cats,
Speaker 1: Bubble Guppies, Mighty Mike. That's a pretty good show. It's
Speaker 1: the life of a pug. And he's always dealing with
Speaker 1: two raccoons. Um, he has a kitty that's in the
Speaker 1: house and three turtles, and then he got a little uh,
Speaker 1: he got a fancy dog that's a across the across
Speaker 1: the little canyon that they see on the pool. Um
Speaker 1: that he always trying to woo over. So Mighty Mike,
Speaker 1: I rocked with Mighty Mike. Gotcha, got you? But now
Speaker 1: that's that's what you have to do. But but more
Speaker 1: than anything, but I definitely wanted to make sure we
Speaker 1: gave this shout out to every single person who's been
Speaker 1: involved with the formulation to cut to a podcast. UM,
Speaker 1: shout out to OURUR Radio, shout out the Black Effect. Um.
Speaker 1: They give us an opportunity to to put this podcast
Speaker 1: out to the world. So UM, big shout out to
Speaker 1: them and um Man, Like I said, big shout out
Speaker 1: to to everyone who is a big part of this. Well,
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Thanks for listening. I am unique. There's
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