WEBVTT - Steve and G Bonus II 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:07.240 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.880 Steve Smith Senior and and this is a cut to 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:16.600 it bonus episode. Good Do Good, Do good. That's getting 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:22.600 down to do it, Good do it. We're rolling these 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:28.120 things on how was your Christmas? Christmas? Police? Christmas? Was 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.920 Christmas was great? Why was it great? The reason Christmas 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.479 is great is spent time with family? What kind of family? 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.400 What kind of family? Like the media? Was it outside? 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.960 So I'm just trying to get you busted. I'm married, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.919 So I have a wife. Have her name wonderful, so 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.440 she is very Let me talk about my family, and 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.120 you have I'll kick your coverage continue. So and she's 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.360 super smart, but I don't know about her comment sense 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.680 because she's married to you. You got all of that, 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.600 just them now so that I can talk with you. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:06.520 You don't continue to to interrupt interrupts. We haven't. So 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:11.320 it's not yesterday. Bro. You're great, You're great. We already 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:17.560 discussed this. You're great. You're what great? You're greatness? Greatness? 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.520 I'm not great. There's only one that's great, and neither 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.800 of us. I like that answer. We're gonna roll with 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.720 that answer. I like that one. So yeah, prisoners great 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.800 because I s been telling my wife Emmony, son Tyson, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.520 daughter Mia. And so for me, just getting a chance 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.920 to just reset, really realizing what the whole point of 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.000 the holidays is about, which is not about exchanging gifts. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.959 It's not about what you got, not about what you gave. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.360 We put that in them early so she know all 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.080 about it's not about her, It's not about what you got. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.360 So so for me it was great. How about yours? 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.640 It was good? All that and all you all you 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.600 gave me, it was good. Yeah, about right, It was 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:06.320 good because it was relaxing. How just like you said 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.600 at the reset, um, I think we put so much 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:15.959 emphasis or we not no more, nobody more than ourselves. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.600 We put so much emphasis on the gifts and how 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.839 special and intentional to gifts maybe, and then we try 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.000 to wrap them. And then if you if you struggle, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.959 if you're in the struggling department of rapping, um, then 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.920 you are you know, self conscious of that. So just 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.560 all of all the self conscious about your gift wrapping. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.200 If you are married or know someone who knows how 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:50.200 to gift rap, and you are very poor gift wrapping. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.560 I think everybody does. Man, I mean there's some things 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.880 I'm self conscious about. There's some things I worry about. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.560 But where the or not a gift wrapped correctly? That 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:06.000 ain't how my list of g f s I got. No, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:11.720 that's cool. I'm actually a pretty decent, decent, decent meaning 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.720 let's just throw if I have five gifts, three of 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.920 them gonna be a beast. The last two. Man, we're 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:22.400 just gonna put these together. We get what that guy is, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:27.560 what I'm gonna give you. Like my gift wrapping energy 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.040 depletes very fat because I will listen. I will stuff 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:35.120 your stuff in a gift bag and keep it moving. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.920 So who's our guest? Who do we have today? Well, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:45.440 we are guests. Let's not buy not because we don't 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.760 have guests who know it's our it's our episode the 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.200 cold head and talk about little things. Give give, give 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.760 the cut to a crew, and an opportunity to kind 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.600 of hear what's on our on our craniums, what's going 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.440 on in our lives. All of that. Reflect Reflection is 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:06.520 extremely important. How would you reflect? Start from the top, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.120 work your way down. Okay, so is this like a. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.800 This is an open as you say, I'm still one 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.680 of your lines. This is an open book test. But 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.120 is this open ended? It's not multiple choice. I don't 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.159 have an I don't have a I I was gonna ask, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.400 is this kind of like an estimate? Uh, like from 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.920 a vendor, because I like to know the price before 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.839 you show me the picture. This isn't like I'm not 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.440 providing you with a with a service a question. Okay, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:42.040 so it's not a vendor. Um. Reflect it started. It 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.400 started about this time last year, right after you know, 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.480 I'm saying, right around Christmas time New Year's we started 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:54.479 to see there were some things going on. There's there 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.760 were some rumblies about a virus and how is that 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.840 going to impact and what is it gonna look like? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.960 And we didn't take it as serious or we didn't 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.000 have all of the intel of the information to know 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:12.799 how serious it was. Um. And so for me fast 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:17.320 forward like two months after this, start to really question like, man, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.840 what's going on? What is this? What are we gonna 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.679 look like? And so we're gonna you know, we start 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.760 to go into lockdown or start to you know that 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.760 we possibly may have that and the fear monster is 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:36.080 on full alert, really trying times. When when you say 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.200 fear monster, fear monster for me, I use the word 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:45.000 fear monster of when you talk about, you know, the 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:50.840 fear of something, the fear of if they do this. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.800 These are all the things that I would have to 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:59.280 deal with or address. And then what are those ramifications? 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.359 How does it impact not just my family but my 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.760 next door neighbors family, How does my neighborhood look at this? 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.160 How does the other neighborhoods look at this? It's just 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.719 the fear monster is It's a small little ball of 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.240 snow that's going down a very steep hill, and it 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:24.400 is gathering more, more speed, more junk, and more, and 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.080 no one really knows and no one can slow it down. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:34.800 And yet you have, for me, to some degree, every 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:41.719 available access or anything at your disposal of information or 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.280 or knowing this person, knowing that person, and it ain't 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.479 nothing you could do about it. When you when you 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.480 say information was it was it for a lot of 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.520 people those information overload, Oh definitely, I started to do. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.200 I was looking at the news, I watch seeing then 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.039 I watched I watched the news already because I like 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:08.560 to just know something of what's going on. Because outside 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.120 of that, I don't listen to my local my local news. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.440 I don't watch it as much because a lot of 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.600 times when it's on, we're doing homework where you know, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.720 we're doing something family wise. That just sitting in front 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.600 of a television watching the news. It's not the time 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.440 we have. I'm I'm running someone to an event, We're 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.520 running to this store to buy a art poster, and 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:39.720 we're doing projects and so there's or um, it's getting 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.320 like it's getting darker sooner, so we gotta get this, 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:45.360 you know, I gotta take the dog out for a walk, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.360 or you gotta we gotta go play catch, or we 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.680 gotta do something active that that five thirty six o'clock 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.800 news is not something I'm watching, right, you know. And 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.280 I think that's that's why football has become later and 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:06.080 later as sports, because that that for the six fifteen, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:12.280 most families aren't watching TV. Most families aren't even in 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.200 their homes. They're either on the road, they're picking up, 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.280 dropping off, standing standing he used to be standing in 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.920 line for food or standing or something. It depends on 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.960 It depends on the families, depends on the family sitting 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.200 on their in their car, grabbing take out, grabbing food, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.920 as their little ones go to certain different events, so 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:38.320 much buzziness, and in that business, I believe the virus 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:44.760 made us stop think, um, retool, refocus, and it exposed. 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:50.440 It exposed blind spots, blind blind spots. What was that 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:55.439 business all along? Well, for some people, it's allowed them 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.120 to slow down that they didn't even know what I say, yeah, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.520 so they have no idea. For myself that blind spot 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.600 has been that I didn't know is in my football career. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:13.520 I always have football as a measuring stick of how 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.760 hard I could push myself, Um, how how much mental 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.439 fortitude do I have? How much high pain tolerance? All 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.360 these things about bang bang bang bang bang bang? And 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:30.000 when I decided to walk away from football, I didn't 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:35.800 have those that those measuring sticks, those goals, and well 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:42.080 I just I literally unintentionally completely cold turkey. Did I 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:47.280 just quit? I just quit having those things and didn't 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.480 realize them. You know what has happened is as I've 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.680 started now to run, because I've become an avid runner, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.520 I started to realize that we were just talking about 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.359 this the other day, and that's what part this conversation 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:08.520 on here is this little treadmill I have. It doesn't 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:13.959 move unless I push your button and it's plugged up. 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.800 It doesn't talk, but it's already pre pre programmed on 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:22.400 the speaking because depends on which program I touch for 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:27.800 it to go. But what's crazy is I've discovered more 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:33.440 about myself and almost looking at my moledge since COVID 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:40.320 started mm hmm, I have learned out of a hundred 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:48.000 and eight runs, two hundred, two hundred sixty miles, I 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.079 have learned so many things about myself and the last 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:56.560 probably has really been amplified by that treadmill. So what what, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.360 what exactly have you learned about yourself? I have earned 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:10.800 that for the first time, I've been failing athletically. And 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.600 I said this to you yesterday, and you said, because 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.560 you don't, you're not. You know you're you're you're not 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.600 the athlete used to be an age and it didn't 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.839 have anything to do that it had to do with 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:30.160 this treadmill. Is like life in this run is I 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:36.600 can't push through a forty five minute mile in the 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.760 first ten minutes and think I'll have enough energy for 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.840 the next thirty or the next thirty five minutes. I 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.680 must learn how to be steady, Eddie, I must learn 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:53.520 how to pace myself. I must learn how two as 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:58.280 I use buckle up buttercup on the conditioning roller coaster 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.319 of running, because in football I was always if I couldn't, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:10.800 if I lost on press coverage display, I had the 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:16.000 next play. If you get fatigued and you start off 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:23.360 too fast in a five mile run, you can't run 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.400 faster to get out of it. And really, my comment 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.560 yesterday was more so is it is it? Are you 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.800 relating to alter performance or how does this? How does 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.640 this parallel to life like your day to day? It's 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.880 both And the reason I say it's both is because 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.679 it's allowed me. One why I love the running is 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.440 it's allowed me unlike football. It's allowed me to stop 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:55.760 comparing myself and focus on myself. There you go. And 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:03.520 then when I'm running, my pace has nothing to do 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.520 with who I am. If I run a slow pace 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.559 and does not mean I'm a failure. If I run 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.040 a slow pace, it does not mean I am soft, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:22.439 I am uh a reject um, I am not unique, 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.560 I am not a special person. It doesn't mean any 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:30.840 of that. It just means, brother, you tired or you 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.800 need to slow down, or you need to take a 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.440 walking rest versus versus an active recovery, and so just 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:44.600 just the differences. And so I'm knowing and noticing in 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.400 this holiday time where I focus on the family, I've 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:53.120 also started focusing on, well, I'm gonna just run today, 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.000 but not really having a goal. So then now I've 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:00.320 started to plateau because now I'm just running to run 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.120 verst just running with a purpose. There have been sometimes 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.680 and I don't know why, because maybe I've been distracted 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.400 because of holidays. For this last three weeks, I've just 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.839 been running with no purpose. But I've been getting up 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:18.240 with a purpose, but I've kind of forgotten as I 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.200 have a purpose, I must have a plan. I was 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.320 so kind of stealing my thunder a little bit for 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:29.200 someone who's listening right now who maybe isn't as performance based. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.280 Like we kind of talked about, how would you what 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.880 kind of advice would you give that person as there 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.720 may be wrapping up, what have you learned from running 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.720 on the treadmill that you could apply and pass on 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.600 to someone Because you started giving nuggets and some of 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.320 our podcasts as I'm I'm enough, you know some of 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.040 the stuff that you've been that you've been reading. What 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:55.640 would you how would you relate that to the common folks? Well, one, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.680 I think an athlete, there's a common Absolutely, I don't 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.160 think there's a I know sometimes you you it's athletes 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.960 and non athletes, But how how would you tie those 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.160 to both? Whether we want to or not, We all 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:16.120 get up, you know, some people don't. But most people 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.000 and I don't know who, but most people they you know, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.760 they put there on their where on one leg at 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.080 a time, and the double leg is probably a little 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:30.240 bit different. Creative, you know, some commando so I tried to, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:36.400 but whatever the circumstance, and then you put on your 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.240 jeans and your shoes and your socks. There is your 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:43.880 process you have to formulate, and I believe right down 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.240 your process. Don't let it just don't let it just 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.920 float in your head, because when you're allowed to float 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:55.560 in your head, it easily gets distracted, It easily is forgotten, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:16:02.480 it easily is sidetracked because especially parents, you have you 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.120 ever had that that conversation where you guys are talking 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:11.400 and you and your significant other are vibing, jelling, having 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:18.200 a great conversation about nothing, and then that those two 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:22.800 words that are blessing and a curse mommy or dad, 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:29.000 depends on the context. And and I say that because me, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.480 you know me and you have had our our kids 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.080 at the at the office and Stephen g are talking 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.960 and Mia says daddy, Deuce says daddy, And we have 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.280 to stop what we're doing. And I'm not complaining. But 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.200 then when we come back to it, pick up where 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.200 you left off. Yes, and and and depends on whether 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:53.040 our kids are asking you get so it takes Try 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.200 to try working at home like so many other people 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.000 have done. During it is so easy to get sidetracked 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.240 and just get pulled down into the weeds and next 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.359 thing you know, you're completely off track with You go 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:10.080 from talking about sounds funny. You go from talking about budgeting, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:15.159 talking about what you guys are gonna do economics, Na 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:22.840 yeah or too uh zebra gamer to gamer girl to 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:29.280 Minecraft to hockey right too. We're playing hockey like I was, 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.840 literally it's funny. It's I gotta do. See a little 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:39.119 hockey set and it had a street hockey, so I 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:44.000 had a ball versus a puck. My man was stuck 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:48.480 about ten minutes on where's the puck? Doucy's there's the ball, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:56.040 but where's the puck. I'm literally like, bro, it's a ball, 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:04.040 not the puck. Stuck right, he was officially stuck that 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:09.440 it was no puck. And where am I going with this? 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.640 That's the whole point side tracked. Yeah, So I think 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:20.160 having a having a plan, having a purpose, having direction, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:24.280 writing it down can really assist you in not forgetting 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:31.320 and also gives you a when we when sometimes we're 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:35.040 gonna autopilot, allow us to get get back on course. 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.320 But then I would say, also out of this has 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.560 been the starter cut to it podcasts? What what has 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:53.880 been I guess the fondest memory of starting this, going 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.760 on this journey? What what is this podcast taught you? 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.720 And where is this podcast going? M hm? You know 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:07.240 what has taught me? Um? Really is the team atmosphere? 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.639 Now I haven't and and when I say I'm not 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.520 a team guy, I just mean and I'm not a 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:22.080 team guy. As far as the trust factor, m hm, right, because, um, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:29.480 when you play a sport whereas it's team, but individuals 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.840 must win their individual battles for the team to win 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:40.680 the biggest game. So you there is some individualism that 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.600 has to go on like, you can't help the left 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.040 tackle go against that Pro bowler and the left tackle 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.760 can't help you go against that Pro Bowl corner, right, 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:57.440 you just gotta But does does your did the trust issues? 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.800 Did it? Did it manifest itself from playing sports or 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:06.920 was that there before? Way definitely before? Yeah, And then 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:12.640 also two footballs. Footballs are sometimes depending on what kind 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.440 of coach you have, it's it's full of people, just 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.960 like anything else. Who are people are full to be asked. Um, 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.520 you got some honest folks who are brutally honest, and 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.280 you have some people who are gentle and honest, and 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.439 you've got some people that just won't tell you the 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:34.240 truth because they're afraid to tell the truth as well, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.200 and they're not being told the truth told the truth either, 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.600 and then they're working. Like one of the things that's 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:44.320 really difficult is the NFL. A lot of these sports 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:48.040 teams are a business and it's and the coaches are 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.480 all shiped a boardroom like at the table, and the 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:56.240 head coach is told by the general manager, and the 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:03.200 general manager represents the voice from no owner, and then 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.960 a coach must disseminate what the general manager was told 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:13.440 from the owner to to his his assistance, and then 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:18.119 his assistance must take what they heard from the coach 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.960 who received it from the general manager general manager received 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.480 from the owner, and put their spin on it and 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.400 tell it to the players in somewhere in that game 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:34.360 of phone, somebody's gonna screw up the message. And then 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:39.280 if you have all the other human elements of it, 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:45.280 is the the messenger? What is his wounds, what are 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:49.080 the things he's been through? What is he incapable of doing? 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.800 Does he give the message neatly? Does he give the 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.800 message with the heart? Does he give the message insensitive? 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:03.600 Is he capable ball of delivering that message? And oh yeah, 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.720 you gotta play football game too. It just gets murky, 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:12.520 and it happens. It happens a lot. And then you 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.679 have the factor of money that's involved. You have the 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:21.560 factor of other men livelihoods are involved. You have fifty 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:26.720 sixty seventy forty year old men, depending on in some 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.680 cases three some case thirty five thirty two year old 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:34.760 men to do their jobs, which equals up to the 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.760 coach being able to have money in this account to 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.679 pay for his kids schooling, for gas. And it's just 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:49.159 it is one of the most difficult businesses that happens 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.800 to be on TV. Out there. People are under the 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:58.840 oppression at playing football. It's easy, you know, the guys 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:00.840 sit on the couch and do that. You know you 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.560 can't because if you could, your ass wouldn't be seen 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:07.600 on the couch. But in in, but in in all, 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.120 I mean, you've you've been able to walk us through 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.119 kind of how the business of the NFL. But we 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.320 just entered the business of podcasts and what are what 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.360 were some of the the highlights of working on cut 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.360 Just talking to all the guests, hearing their different stories, 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:28.880 hearing they're what they're, why they're, how they're what they're 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:34.080 when they're where? Where were they wounded? Where were they congratulated? 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:39.760 How you know? Where are they from? Why do they 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:45.240 claim that town? Yeah? What are they made out of 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.359 or made up of? What has impacted them the most? 0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:54.639 How it has impacted them? Really learning the individual. I 0:23:54.680 --> 0:24:00.600 am our introvert who is very inquisitive about people. You 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:04.399 I would have never guess that a lot of people 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.680 don't know that though that a lot of people think 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.440 one I think I'm better than people. So that's why 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.040 I don't really want to as some people think that 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:14.800 you think you're better than yeah, or I don't want 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:20.040 to be bothered. I just love my privacy and I'm 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.440 okay with just kind of like, so, what made you 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.200 step out there and want to do a podcast? When 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.920 you're doing this, You're you're you're kind of you're you're 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.720 kind of having to do that, and I'm exhausted after, 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.960 but like I can go to sleep, Um, because I 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.679 think there is a narrative out there, and there is 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:45.800 a there is a false narrative of you know, especially 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:53.240 men who play sports that you know, one they're dumb 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:58.679 or two treat it different or special more than others. 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.800 I think that's why to disconnect between some fans and 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:10.239 some players is fans, some fans believe players, you are 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.479 at my dispose because I've paid a ticket or because 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.320 I've came to this event or this luncheon or whatever 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.919 sponsor event, that that you that you should give me 0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.000 something in return. Is that that's what you're talking about, 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:26.879 and it's not true, And I think that's is I 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:28.680 would assume that's probably one of the reasons why you 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.480 want to start this podcast in the first place, to 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.360 to to showcase and highlight folks in a different light 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.639 and for people to know, like we say all the 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.720 time to people to know who's under the jersey, what 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.600 makes them, where do they come from? That they are 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:45.719 people too, or you are forced to now to listen 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:50.520 about something more than that nice catch, that nice drive, 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:57.080 that nice shot instead of just one thing. Right, It's 0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:03.359 tough sometimes snap or want. I just watch social media 0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:10.160 sometimes on a game and how disrespectful fans can be 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:16.800 two players. So I just so I like this doing 0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:23.040 this podcast because it gives a human element of whoever 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.560 you are rooting for. They have a mother, the mother 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.800 more than that they're they're more than their performance on 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.680 the field. I feel like that's such a big differentation 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.480 from our podcast to so many other podcasts or shows 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.919 or whatever other sports content there is. That's that's the 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.160 differentation because I think there's two there. I think there's 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.800 two points. There's that point to where we're giving content 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:49.760 that you typically don't get. We're not asking what's your 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:53.160 what's your performance? Like you know, it's funny some people 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.320 don't like our content because it's not everyone they have. 0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:57.800 You're gonna have people that like it. You're gonna have 0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.359 people that don't like it. We're not making it for 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.200 the people who don't like. You have a choice to 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.880 not consume it. Just like with anything else I can go. 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.560 I can go to Macy's and I can pick out 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.639 that jacket or that jacket capitalism. I have a choice, 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:14.359 right so so um so, I think that's a differentation. 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.159 I think the differentation to it, in my opinion, is 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.240 that we're too host to where you play professional I 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.200 did not. I am a former athlete. But at the 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:28.160 same time, I always trying to give the perspective of, um, 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.440 the person that's sitting here, whether it's or I get 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:37.680 feedback from my boys, where is that man? That's the athlete, 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:43.439 and the the professional athlete and the athlete you know, 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.240 and then the fan like there are sometimes you ask 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.680 me questions. I'm like, man, that is the dumbest question ever. 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.760 And then I will say something and I can see 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.320 on your face You're like, man, that's the dumbest professional 0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:01.439 athlete answer every like so, but health question. But so 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.040 the question becomes why would you have me as a 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.480 co host in the first place? Like why And I'm 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.800 not saying that for you to question it, but I 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.040