Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. Y'all,
Speaker 1: I just got back from therapy fresh a me, what
Speaker 1: do we want to talk about? Um? Nothing, because that's
Speaker 1: how I feel sometimes when I leave Amy. No, it
Speaker 1: was funny. It was like one of those were UM,
Speaker 1: I was going from like getting ready to like audition
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, I cannot cry today in therapy.
Speaker 1: You know I've done um but y'all, I just I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm just just gonna touch on it and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna move on from you want to detach
Speaker 1: while you touch on it so you don't cry. No, No,
Speaker 1: I won't cry. I've cried enough. I had a good
Speaker 1: cry session therapy. UM. So I posted that photo, which
Speaker 1: it was a couple of weeks ago now on October
Speaker 1: one for Domestic Violence War in this month, which is
Speaker 1: the month of October, and it was a Facebook memory
Speaker 1: that came up. Oh, I did see this one and
Speaker 1: it was like and I had like some scrapes on
Speaker 1: my shoulder, on the top of my shoulder and like
Speaker 1: on the bottom or whatever. And that was the like
Speaker 1: a few weeks after the first guy tried to kill me.
Speaker 1: I've only spoken about it on Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: when we went to the safe Horizon thing, and I
Speaker 1: haven't really like I don't really touch on it, and
Speaker 1: I I just had so much like emotion when I did,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know like why, Like when I
Speaker 1: saw the photo in September and I was just like
Speaker 1: I just kind of like stared at it for like
Speaker 1: a while. And then I remember October was, you know,
Speaker 1: domestic violenceward of months. I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I think I'm gonna like just share a piece
Speaker 1: of it and I hope that it will help someone.
Speaker 1: But like when I pressed send, I like started like
Speaker 1: to get really upset because I think it's like the
Speaker 1: like the awareness like Amy calls it, like the grief
Speaker 1: like you go through like stages of grief, and that
Speaker 1: was like the stage of like acceptance, which is like
Speaker 1: it makes it real, but what made it harder. And
Speaker 1: this is what we walked through today in therapy. Okay, shoot,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen his face and since I was like
Speaker 1: one and they put his mug shot and like yesterday,
Speaker 1: like I saw it for the first time and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't it just like sent like
Speaker 1: a wave of like just chills. And then like I
Speaker 1: got like scared, even though I know he's not here anymore,
Speaker 1: but it was just like it was like I had
Speaker 1: to like work through that because I'm like, well, have
Speaker 1: I not seen his face? Like why would I? Why
Speaker 1: would I look at photos of him? You know? And
Speaker 1: then I started to get sad too because I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's got he's got kids out there too, you know,
Speaker 1: kids that never even met him, because like when I
Speaker 1: met him, I only knew of one daughter. And then
Speaker 1: when I did Dancing with the Stars, there's apparently like
Speaker 1: six daughters that he had that some didn't even meet,
Speaker 1: and he's gone, like not earth side gone. He committed suicide. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: So it was just like I don't know why I'm
Speaker 1: bringing that up, but I guess just like to get
Speaker 1: it air sometimes it just needs air to breathe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to say it out loud. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I like, And then like a part of me like
Speaker 1: and then I started going to like my purpose of
Speaker 1: like life, and so then I started talking about that
Speaker 1: in therapy, and I'm like, what I would love to do,
Speaker 1: like if I didn't have to worry about money in
Speaker 1: supporting my children, like I would love to open up
Speaker 1: like a shelter and like work with kids. Like I was,
Speaker 1: Amy was like, there was this thirteen year old girl
Speaker 1: in therapy today and I don't know, I just had
Speaker 1: like a and a pull to like talk to her,
Speaker 1: and so I sat there and talked to her for
Speaker 1: like five minutes in there, and I was just like
Speaker 1: I felt so good selfishly after and like that's what
Speaker 1: I would love to help kids, open a shelter for women.
Speaker 1: I also think there's a season for everything. I think
Speaker 1: that we're not. It doesn't mean that that won't be
Speaker 1: or it hasn't just because it hasn't happened. I just
Speaker 1: think we're all in a season right now. If like
Speaker 1: our kids are tiny, we feel like we're not in
Speaker 1: the little little years anymore because they're like almost four
Speaker 1: and six and a half, but they still really need
Speaker 1: us in a in a real way. I mean they're
Speaker 1: always going to but they're tiny. So I feel like,
Speaker 1: just don't be hard on yourself and just keep taking
Speaker 1: steps towards it. Well, I just feel like I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is my purpose right Like what is like light
Speaker 1: topics with Janna Creamer, But I don't know, like, do
Speaker 1: you guys struggle with that, because I'm like, for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, yes, I know. I'm never like
Speaker 1: I'm not like the best singer in the world. I'm
Speaker 1: not the best actress in the world. But I love
Speaker 1: doing it and I enjoyed and it supports my family.
Speaker 1: Do I want to be you know, did I ever
Speaker 1: think I was going to be an influencer on Instagram? No?
Speaker 1: But it supports my family and I so I you know,
Speaker 1: I I promote products that I like, and again it's
Speaker 1: an efforts to support my family. And but I'm like
Speaker 1: when I when I peeled back the layers, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I would give anything to almost get off Instagram. Oh
Speaker 1: I feel that to my core and just like like
Speaker 1: what would I like and go to shelters, open a
Speaker 1: shelter like and and you know, be with kids every
Speaker 1: day and like help help, like the fourteen fifteen year
Speaker 1: old kids where I got lost, you know. And it's
Speaker 1: but I'm like, and maybe that's down the road. But
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, what is my purpose? And like what
Speaker 1: am I doing? And then I'm like, well, my question
Speaker 1: is what's stopping you from starting? Starting? I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like and by the way, for people that listening
Speaker 1: there are in a bad situation and safe horizon, they're
Speaker 1: an amazing shelter. So I want to promote that as well. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's so hard. We've talked about this before and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I want to, but I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't have the financial income to just be like here's
Speaker 1: a place with fifteen beds and like, but wonder if
Speaker 1: you start the networking piece for you now and like
Speaker 1: just get it good understanding, Like maybe eventually the shelter
Speaker 1: is the end goal for everybody listening. That's Channa blowing
Speaker 1: her no because she wasn't going to cry when she
Speaker 1: talked about she's all cried out. But I feel like
Speaker 1: you can baby step now, Like maybe there's like I
Speaker 1: have felt this in my own personal life too, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a stay at home mom. I haven't
Speaker 1: had a nanny, we don't have help, and I'm a
Speaker 1: family here, but I have felt this like call to
Speaker 1: help moms and so for me, like, ultimately what I
Speaker 1: would like to do is be supportive. We have a
Speaker 1: stillborn task force. You and I have talked about that,
Speaker 1: but like that's the dream for me. Which sounds really
Speaker 1: like morbid, but like to walk that sacred space with moms.
Speaker 1: But that is a lot of time away from home,
Speaker 1: and not that I I don't want to do that
Speaker 1: just in this season. I can't do that every single day.
Speaker 1: So I'm just doing what I can and little bite
Speaker 1: sized pieces to get towards that, and once in a
Speaker 1: while I'm able to walk those spaces. But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: there's other ways, especially with your influence, I feel like
Speaker 1: you help so much the awareness, raising money for I mean,
Speaker 1: there's tons of ways. I feel like you can just
Speaker 1: start your slow chip away and framer shelter. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think that if what's overwhelming to you was the
Speaker 1: financial part of it, like God will provide that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't think you should
Speaker 1: worry about that component of it. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of components to this, but there's probably plenty of people
Speaker 1: out there that would want to invest help in a
Speaker 1: situation like this, you know. So it's like, if you
Speaker 1: start taking some steps and start having the conversation, doors
Speaker 1: will open. I think you would be surprised. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I just didn't even know where to start. You
Speaker 1: just did I bet Yeah, someone is going to let
Speaker 1: you know, don't you do? Guys ever, like you know
Speaker 1: your purpose and stuff too, like and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I deal with this with Amy all the time. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, life is short, you know it is.
Speaker 1: It's shorter than you even know. Yeah, and it's like
Speaker 1: what is I have no idea? Yeah, it's overwhelming, honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean I get it at least, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have like a this is what I
Speaker 1: would want to do, you know. I mean I have
Speaker 1: like a few things, but not like something I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it's more missions and going on
Speaker 1: more mission trips. But then of course it's always like,
Speaker 1: well that costs this amount of money. You know. The
Speaker 1: money is always a thing. You know, it's always about money,
Speaker 1: saying it to myself. Do But I mean, I love
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful when you just like, no, like
Speaker 1: I would love to do this, you know. I think
Speaker 1: that's great because I kind of get lost in that,
Speaker 1: like what would I love to do? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm so busy with kids and you know whatever. But
Speaker 1: he does I feel like God kind of like if
Speaker 1: you look back even where we are now onto our
Speaker 1: past lives, we see how he's implemented little pieces that
Speaker 1: we've needed to know all along, Like you couldn't You
Speaker 1: couldn't have arrived at wanting to run a children's shelter
Speaker 1: ten years ago because you didn't have kids yet. And
Speaker 1: so now having kids and knowing how to like mother
Speaker 1: well and what they need and walking that daily also
Speaker 1: gives you insight and education slices to put towards the
Speaker 1: end goal. So he's building it all along the way.
Speaker 1: You're getting your resume built. Sure every little thing is something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like I'm like I have It'm like all right,
Speaker 1: I would love to like here's my goal, right, get
Speaker 1: on a procedural where like I'm like the fifth lead
Speaker 1: and like a doctor show. So I have my study
Speaker 1: income to support my kids so I don't have to hustle,
Speaker 1: you know, on with doing fifty other million different things.
Speaker 1: So that's like that's my study income. And then I
Speaker 1: released a song here there, we do our Wine Down tour,
Speaker 1: we do the podcast, like that's all like the fun stuff,
Speaker 1: like I getting united like by doing this is fun,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't like this isn't our bread and butter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like how fun is this? Like this is
Speaker 1: like we get to talk and talk to really cool
Speaker 1: people and like have fun, laugh, cry, like do all
Speaker 1: that and then like have the true meaning and purpose
Speaker 1: of like helping like abused women children like like that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: like what a like what a gift that would be
Speaker 1: like to be able to like have because sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: just like what am I doing? M Like, guys, I
Speaker 1: just want to be this is the start getting your
Speaker 1: name out m M. This is a long it feels
Speaker 1: like a long journey. Hey, you know what I read
Speaker 1: something their day where someone's like, oh god, this is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna busher the heck out of it. Someone's gonna
Speaker 1: make it up, right. He was like I got I
Speaker 1: got my first house at fifty or something was like
Speaker 1: forty then at fifty, Like he wrote a best selling
Speaker 1: author at sixty's. So it's like, you know, sometimes like
Speaker 1: never too late? Is it's never too late? Also, speaking
Speaker 1: of love, I cannot say who it is. Is it
Speaker 1: never too late? So I had a call with this
Speaker 1: one woman. He was like, my love and I love
Speaker 1: her so much and we've just kind of been on
Speaker 1: the journey together, and she was just like, I'm never
Speaker 1: going to find any when I'm older. She was like
Speaker 1: in her fifties or whatever. And she texted me and
Speaker 1: was like, he asked me to be my boyfriend. I
Speaker 1: was like, I tell you tell yourself that, Cramer. Oh,
Speaker 1: anything you'd like to update us on that? Now? They
Speaker 1: love the hints you want to say anything. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they figured out one girl figured out boring Jewish guy.
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you that. It's actually funny. I need
Speaker 1: to go. Can I just go on one last time
Speaker 1: for saying it has nothing to do because Jewish. It
Speaker 1: has everything to him to do with him being boring
Speaker 1: a lot of guesses for that one. Every one was like,
Speaker 1: well I'm doing I'm like, oh, oh, I love Jewish people.
Speaker 1: That's not that I don't like boring people Like that
Speaker 1: was the point that I don't think I need him
Speaker 1: to I need him to have more personality than the
Speaker 1: bread rules that we should have just kept it boring. Um,
Speaker 1: but yes, what friends got attacked for calling him boring?
Speaker 1: Friends got tacked wear we're the friends. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: got I don't read anything because not everybody I have.
Speaker 1: I have completely deleted and blocked myself from ever going
Speaker 1: to the credit pages. It's just like you can't um
Speaker 1: and there's something to say. Well, and here's the end
Speaker 1: of the day. I'm like, you don't actually know, Like
Speaker 1: someone like said something and I was like, that is
Speaker 1: actually not the truth? Whatsoev? And I'm like, why am
Speaker 1: I even like? Like I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm blocking myself from this. So I literally blocked myself
Speaker 1: from it. Send it to my accountability person. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, get a password whatever, put it in here,
Speaker 1: and then blocked me from this page. And so now
Speaker 1: I can't even go look at it. One girl did
Speaker 1: right to me, and she was like, I'm peeing my pants.
Speaker 1: Are born Jewish guy? She was like, I'm Jewish and
Speaker 1: I did a lot of born Jewish guys and I
Speaker 1: just wanted to know there's really funny one. Well, this
Speaker 1: one girl goes, I have a good guess, and I
Speaker 1: go go for it, and she said the name she
Speaker 1: was if I'm right, I'll even take a swing at
Speaker 1: the queendom nickname. Um. But I go, I go, oh
Speaker 1: my god, how did I go? I cannot confirm nor
Speaker 1: denyed curious why you think that person she was just
Speaker 1: several little hints. I actually also matched with him on Riyah.
Speaker 1: He said he was in the and so she was
Speaker 1: just like, these were nicknames for him, which I can't say.
Speaker 1: I can't say anything, and I can't say my nickname
Speaker 1: for him because it gives it away. Um. But it
Speaker 1: was just I was literally dying, like so crazy. But
Speaker 1: she asked me, so, we have a really amazing guest
Speaker 1: on UM today that I'm excited to talk to her about, UM,
Speaker 1: Teresa from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. And she
Speaker 1: said something she goes, UM, if she's willing to go there,
Speaker 1: I think you should ask her if she knows. She
Speaker 1: now knows what red flag she ignored with her first marriage,
Speaker 1: because it was only when he went away to prison
Speaker 1: that she finally admitted he had probably cheated on her,
Speaker 1: even though everyone had been trying to tell her that
Speaker 1: all along and she was refusing to admit believe it. Um,
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm a shameless Brava Hall like, and I
Speaker 1: I don't I don't watch the show. I mean I
Speaker 1: I've seen the episode of her flipping the table and
Speaker 1: all that. I watched her on Dancing with Her with
Speaker 1: the Stars Um, but I mean, I didn't know that. Like,
Speaker 1: all I know is like they went to jail. How
Speaker 1: long did she actually wasn't she was one of them?
Speaker 1: Was three years? You're a die hard, right, Yeah, But
Speaker 1: now I can't remember how long he went first, and
Speaker 1: I want to say it was like, no, she went
Speaker 1: first and then he went I can't remember it was
Speaker 1: a year or three years, which is a very different story.
Speaker 1: But you know what's interesting about that question, though, is
Speaker 1: it's hard to really tell when you're watching the show
Speaker 1: if she really knew or didn't. Now, apparently she was
Speaker 1: in for a year and a half, year and a
Speaker 1: half and he was three years. If she knew that
Speaker 1: he was cheating, or about the prisons because during the
Speaker 1: show they're still married, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know that she would have admitted
Speaker 1: at the time, Um, you know that she knew or
Speaker 1: thought he was having an affair, but then he goes
Speaker 1: to prison and it's like all this, so then she
Speaker 1: admits it. So I don't know, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: if she knew or had a nice um, maybe she
Speaker 1: was trying to protect him or you're I mean, and
Speaker 1: there were some there were some episodes where it's like
Speaker 1: it's like pretty much right in front of you, but
Speaker 1: well she's in the waiting room along with Melissa Feaster.
Speaker 1: They've they're starting a podcast, UM, so we're going to
Speaker 1: talk all things Bravo in her new podcast coming up
Speaker 1: after this break. Hello, Hi, hi guy, Hi ladies. What's happening?
Speaker 1: How are you good? How are you doing? You know
Speaker 1: what I was jobs telling Teresa, I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: what you know? I was telling her that you were
Speaker 1: on Dancy When the Stars too. I was, UM, I
Speaker 1: was on God, how many seasons ago was that? My
Speaker 1: daughter was four months old she's now six, so I'm
Speaker 1: bad at math. About six years ago. It was a
Speaker 1: while ago. Yeah, I was about six years ago. Was
Speaker 1: um Gleb's first season UM in the in the United States,
Speaker 1: and that was it was It was a fun It
Speaker 1: was it was fun, but it was definitely it's hard.
Speaker 1: Did you enjoy your experience or yes? I did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I had no dancing? How many How long
Speaker 1: were you on for? Well? I made it to the semifinals.
Speaker 1: But let me just I'll say this, though there was
Speaker 1: on your season, there are Because Jesse Decker is a
Speaker 1: friend of of ours, and I called her, like, girl,
Speaker 1: there's like professional dancers in the CELEBT group, and that's tough.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm like, it's it's almost like you're like,
Speaker 1: you know, dancing with the celebrities, uh, you know, dancers,
Speaker 1: because it's like they're all amazing. So it's like that's
Speaker 1: that's a that's a hard cast to like compete with stars. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it was a great experience. You know.
Speaker 1: It was something that I've always wanted to do, So
Speaker 1: I'm glad I get to do it for sure. That's
Speaker 1: at it. You know. It's a good point because I
Speaker 1: was saying the same thing at Teresa, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's like you going and playing against Lebron and kind
Speaker 1: of played basketball before, Like how is that fair? You're
Speaker 1: probably not gonna win. You could be in the competition,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, how are you gonna win against
Speaker 1: a trained and then you also have twenty one year
Speaker 1: olds against seven. You know, It's just you're a really
Speaker 1: good friend though, because you didn't say she wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: win against Lebron. You said she probably wouldn't friendship right there. Listen, today,
Speaker 1: I really thought I was gonna make it to the
Speaker 1: semi father, Like I knew it wasn't gonna win. At
Speaker 1: one point, I was like, my partner was Pasha and
Speaker 1: his wife one last season, So I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, you can't leave her Mary Ball on the
Speaker 1: you know, on the mantel by itself. You need to
Speaker 1: you know, you need to have one right next to her.
Speaker 1: You guys are married. So here I'm thinking, like, you know, listen,
Speaker 1: my hopes were high. I'm like, I could probably win
Speaker 1: this because like I was putting, I was putting my
Speaker 1: all into it, and I really you know, like the
Speaker 1: first dance, I felt really confident, so like you know, Janet,
Speaker 1: like there's so many movement parts your head, your foot,
Speaker 1: you point your foot, your hands, your neck, like the
Speaker 1: way you look like, there's so many movement parts. Like
Speaker 1: so it's like I was just, you know, like I
Speaker 1: was getting adjusted to that because if they were telling me,
Speaker 1: I looked up at the first the first my first dance,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why I was looking up Because it's
Speaker 1: the tango. I'm also looking for Jesus because I need
Speaker 1: all the help I can get. I mean, we're all
Speaker 1: looking up. Yeah, You're like dear Lord, please get me
Speaker 1: through this. So you guys have a new podcast, it's
Speaker 1: out right now. And are you guys, like, are you
Speaker 1: podcasting together or is it like this where it's like
Speaker 1: literally you know. Okay. Wait questions. She's in l A
Speaker 1: and I'm in New Jersey. Okay, Okay, I couldn't tell
Speaker 1: you're from New Jersey at all, Teresa. It's like New
Speaker 1: Jersey is my freaking favorite. But why do you say
Speaker 1: that straight shooters from New Jersey? That accent is everything
Speaker 1: to me? My accent? Okay, yeah, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not like I can tell from the your background. Okay.
Speaker 1: Two questions. A, I want to know what's the name
Speaker 1: of the podcast? No mistake, bitches? Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: sit on your laps. And then to you, how do
Speaker 1: you all know each other? Okay? So I actually I
Speaker 1: started a podcast side piece and I was interviewing, well,
Speaker 1: I actually had Teresa's attorney on side piece, and then
Speaker 1: he's so awesome and we, you know, became friends and
Speaker 1: started a relationship. And then I met Teresa I think
Speaker 1: the first time at Ultimate Girls Trip premiere. I became
Speaker 1: friends with Cynthia Bailey, also from the Housewives and she
Speaker 1: invited me as her date to the Ultimate Girls Trip premiere.
Speaker 1: Teresa was flying in to l A for it, and
Speaker 1: I met Teresa and we just had great talk and
Speaker 1: conversation and we just started talking and we hit it off.
Speaker 1: And UM, I then went back to our attorney and
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I think there's something here.
Speaker 1: I've been podcasting. I want to do more than just
Speaker 1: me running my mouth. We have great conversations. I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot more to Theresa than people see watching
Speaker 1: you know, real Housewives in New Jersey. Um, they don't
Speaker 1: know about me. I think this could be a great
Speaker 1: way to kind of open it up so people really
Speaker 1: get an inside look. Listen, just like you guys do, right,
Speaker 1: It's not everything that you see in the headlines or
Speaker 1: this or that. And I think there's just a lot
Speaker 1: more to to what to who we are than what
Speaker 1: you see. Yeah, I mean I definitely can you know.
Speaker 1: I think we can all relate to that. And it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, for you like Theresa, like, do you feel
Speaker 1: like you have to constantly be like I'm not the
Speaker 1: girl that flips the table, I'm not this, I'm not
Speaker 1: that like and and then what what part of you
Speaker 1: has been like you know what, I'm done because I
Speaker 1: know I've struggled with it and be like I'm done
Speaker 1: trying to like proved to you that I'm this way
Speaker 1: or for you to like me like I just am
Speaker 1: m and that's that's taken. I mean, it still takes
Speaker 1: effort in a daily remembrance to be like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't need to I don't need a dent approval, right,
Speaker 1: I don't need this us in too, like like me
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like how do you how do you deal
Speaker 1: with that? And and what are you doing to not
Speaker 1: have to take those steps? Yeah? I mean, and it's
Speaker 1: sad because I feel like that I've um, I feel
Speaker 1: like that I've been trying to defend myself. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: like your finger, Oh sorry sorry, I can't get enough
Speaker 1: of both of your finger. This ship all day long,
Speaker 1: you guys, this is not like because we're just talking
Speaker 1: to the feeling. We're talking with ourselves. Magical moments for me. Um. Yeah, no, listen,
Speaker 1: I had a great chemistry from the first day we met.
Speaker 1: And it was so crazy because I was going to
Speaker 1: do another podcast with these other two women and my
Speaker 1: attorney was like no, and he kept pushing me off,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why aren't you getting this done?
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Adam, And then I guess because
Speaker 1: you know, he knows me so well, and I guess
Speaker 1: he knew like I would be a better fit with Melissa.
Speaker 1: So it's a crazy because that other podcast. I was
Speaker 1: working on it for like over a year trying to
Speaker 1: get the contract done. And then so like I'm glad, see,
Speaker 1: like everything's always meant to base, So I'm glad that Melissa.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I married you instead. You know, they were
Speaker 1: going crazy. She just the East Coast staying care of
Speaker 1: and I have the West Coast staying care of. So
Speaker 1: I was excited to do Dancing with the Stars because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, maybe everyone don't get
Speaker 1: to see a different side of me, because you know,
Speaker 1: fans come up to me and like they're like or
Speaker 1: they ask other people she really mean like that the
Speaker 1: way she is on the show, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like that's so far from who I am.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I'm so easy going, I'm like easy
Speaker 1: to talk to. I just go with the flow, and
Speaker 1: you know, and that's who I really want people to see,
Speaker 1: Like and to get to know like the real theories
Speaker 1: of you guys, not not the like person that's always
Speaker 1: defending herself housebands in New Jersey because you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: always coming for me because I'm the o G. And
Speaker 1: of course if you come for Teresa, you get a platform.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's when And unfortunately, like I you know,
Speaker 1: like that's you know, I finally got that. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I wish the rest of America would see what's really happening,
Speaker 1: because that's what happens, you know, Like they want to
Speaker 1: come for me because then it gets them, you know,
Speaker 1: then it gets them, you know, other people to talk
Speaker 1: about them. So yeah, I mean, but tell you I'm tired.
Speaker 1: That's why I was excited about doing Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: But hopefully this season, on season thirteen, maybe people will
Speaker 1: get to see a different side of me. So has
Speaker 1: that been hard then for you and Louis since he's
Speaker 1: come into the mix later? For you and you dealing
Speaker 1: with a lot of backlash and then now a lot
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of backlash, Like, how has that
Speaker 1: been for y'all? Has that been a hard dynamic? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you guys saw like yeah, when he came
Speaker 1: on and then it's like, you know, then I had
Speaker 1: one of my cast members trying to hurt him. I
Speaker 1: had I had to said her straight. In Nashville, you
Speaker 1: guys saw that, right, Yes, you know the whole table
Speaker 1: ended up on run. You know, but you guys will
Speaker 1: see season thirteen how that plays out, how that you
Speaker 1: know ends up and um, but listen, we're very strong,
Speaker 1: the two of us, and none of that heard us,
Speaker 1: like Louie and I and I mean, I think season
Speaker 1: thirteen is definitely going to be an eye opener for everyone. Good.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the podcast, but I just
Speaker 1: want to ask one relationship question, if it's okay around
Speaker 1: how you were able to open your heart back up
Speaker 1: again after everything that you went through with you know,
Speaker 1: your first husband. Um. Well yeah, when he left, um, um,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna work on myself.
Speaker 1: And I've always wanted to do a bikini fitness competition
Speaker 1: and and and I did it. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. You know. Oh, well, first of all, when
Speaker 1: I when when I was in like in camp, in camp,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was in camp, Um, I did yoga,
Speaker 1: I exercised so much so when I came out, I
Speaker 1: got certified in yoga, and then I came home. Joe
Speaker 1: left three months later, and then when he left, Um,
Speaker 1: that's what I did. I got certified in yoga. I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I lost my mom eight months later, so I went
Speaker 1: through a hard time. Then my dad moved in with me.
Speaker 1: And then after that, after I got fried in yoga,
Speaker 1: that's when I did the bikini Fitness competition. I was
Speaker 1: just like working on myself and then when I was
Speaker 1: ready for love, Um, it just came, it really did.
Speaker 1: I mean I was going out, you know, I was
Speaker 1: meeting I mean, that's the thing. I'm so happy I didn't,
Speaker 1: like I didn't have to date like a million guys.
Speaker 1: So that's really not my thing. I'm kind of you know,
Speaker 1: like think I'm like grateful to God and grateful to
Speaker 1: my parents because you know how I met Louis. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you guys, and then I put the story out
Speaker 1: on the Housewives. I really, Um, I lost both my parents.
Speaker 1: Then my dad lives with me three years after my
Speaker 1: mom passed, you know, after my mom passed, and then
Speaker 1: I never knew like if you really want something, um,
Speaker 1: you asked somebody that was close to that passed away.
Speaker 1: So I looked up in the sky and I swear
Speaker 1: I started pouring my guts out to my parents on
Speaker 1: Bay Boulevard at the Jersey Shore and guys. A few
Speaker 1: weeks after that, I met Louis on Baby Boulevard on
Speaker 1: the stage. I swear to God, I swear to you
Speaker 1: on my four like that really happened. I really, I
Speaker 1: just poured my my mom blah blah. I called my
Speaker 1: father Blabama Italian, my please send me a guy that's
Speaker 1: everything you've ever wanted for me and more, someone to
Speaker 1: treat me like a princess that talks to me so sweet,
Speaker 1: because my parents didn't like Joe's vocabulary and how he spoke.
Speaker 1: Like so I actually, really, like you know, poured my
Speaker 1: guts out to my parents and told him everything that
Speaker 1: I was looking for. And a few weeks later, Wila,
Speaker 1: I like, as I'm walking, that's how I meet LOI wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: So how can I ask this or is this? Are
Speaker 1: we saving some of this? I need to know, like
Speaker 1: how did the first meet meet happen? Our first date?
Speaker 1: Like how did you when you meet him on Babe Bolivard?
Speaker 1: How do you meet him? And is it bay or
Speaker 1: b a e bay? Okay, I have no problems on
Speaker 1: you guys. Storry Okay. So I'm I'm walking with my
Speaker 1: two girlfriends. Like one of them is married, the other
Speaker 1: one single. We had we went out the night before.
Speaker 1: I was hungover and then you know, we drove you know,
Speaker 1: we had a birthday party and like up north, so
Speaker 1: then we drove back down the shore and so it
Speaker 1: was it was a crappy day. I was a cloudy.
Speaker 1: So my girlfriend and we would walk every single morning
Speaker 1: because it was during COVID. I mean I think it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of COVID but keeping distant, you know,
Speaker 1: because it was like two So my girlfriend caused me
Speaker 1: in the morning, She's like, we just got down the shore.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, she gives me a call. She
Speaker 1: dropped me off in my shorehouse. She was at her shorehouse.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I'm gonna pick you up, and it's like,
Speaker 1: let's go walking. I'm like, are you crazy. It's eleven
Speaker 1: thirty twelve o'clock. I'm like, it's like so hot now.
Speaker 1: Because we would walk first thing in the morning to
Speaker 1: get it out of the way, and I'm like, you're crazy.
Speaker 1: Now I don't even I'm like, I'm not gonna walking
Speaker 1: right now. So late, like it's so hot out, I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm not doing it. She's like, get your ass going,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm like all right. So she like, you
Speaker 1: know twists, you know, like I like a girlfriend that
Speaker 1: like pushes you. You know, I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: that either. Yeah, so I'm like all right. So we
Speaker 1: went and then like me and my two other girls,
Speaker 1: it was Rosanna and Dana. We went walking and as
Speaker 1: we're walking by, I'm pointing at the um Louis and
Speaker 1: like he was, I was putting out this white range
Speaker 1: Rover with black rims, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: look that guy has my card that I that I
Speaker 1: got rid of lash because I got a new Range Rover.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that guy has my car that
Speaker 1: I got rid of. I was just pointing and saying
Speaker 1: because we had the same car. And and then he waves,
Speaker 1: so he waves, and then um Dana is like my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: the married girlfriend now, so you know, she goes She's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna go talk to him, like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? So she goes across like you
Speaker 1: know that I don't know if you guys know, the
Speaker 1: right in the middle there's grass, so she starts walking
Speaker 1: towards him. So they both meet in the middle where
Speaker 1: the grass part is, you know. So then me and
Speaker 1: Rosanna on the other side. So the two of them
Speaker 1: were talking and then I feel bad. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like, ro let's go by her. I feel bad.
Speaker 1: She's just we just left her by herself. So then
Speaker 1: we go by her. And then oh, I went by him,
Speaker 1: and then um and then oh yeah, Rosanna came with
Speaker 1: me too, and then I introduced myself on the caim Tresa,
Speaker 1: everybody introduced themselves, and then that was that. They were
Speaker 1: kind of done talk. And he had two business cards
Speaker 1: on him and he goes this, well, you know, my
Speaker 1: name's Louie. And then he was his son. He was
Speaker 1: so cused with the sun there and then um, he
Speaker 1: gave me a business card and he gave Dana business
Speaker 1: card and that was it, and then we keep walking
Speaker 1: and then um um we keep walking and then he
Speaker 1: comes pulling up with his car with his son and
Speaker 1: his girlfriend in the backseat, and he goes like this,
Speaker 1: He goes, my son wanted to know why I didn't
Speaker 1: asked for your number, Teresa, and that's how I like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I was embarrassed to give my number in
Speaker 1: front of his son and son's girlfriend. So I said, well,
Speaker 1: I have your business card, I'll text you. And then
Speaker 1: my girlfriend Dana said give me your friend. Then after
Speaker 1: we laughed. After he laughed, right, my girlfriend Dana took
Speaker 1: my phone said give me your phone, and she texted
Speaker 1: him from my phone and said and gave my number,
Speaker 1: and that was in. It was history ever since that night,
Speaker 1: we talked on the phone for hours, like and every
Speaker 1: each night. That's how I was bay On Babil. I
Speaker 1: love that Melissa had and our first sorry, and our
Speaker 1: first two walks were I mean, our first two days
Speaker 1: were walks. Yeah, he came to I met him on
Speaker 1: a Friday morning. He came down the shore that Monday morning.
Speaker 1: We took a walk. Then he sent me flowers to
Speaker 1: my short house and then my kids are like, who's that?
Speaker 1: You know those? Because the flowers are so beautiful. And
Speaker 1: then our second day we went walking. I took him
Speaker 1: on a seven mile walk. Wait, and he pulled his
Speaker 1: so ad, he's so ad, and he said he couldn't
Speaker 1: he's like so I was like because he running that
Speaker 1: morning and he's like he hold is so ad. So
Speaker 1: he was like at a commission for like three days
Speaker 1: from now, Like it it took a few months, it
Speaker 1: really did, Like I think three months Yeah, before that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah was it? Like I mean I just think that's
Speaker 1: beautiful because I mean I know from the show, Um,
Speaker 1: you know people were saying that your first X was
Speaker 1: cheating on you, and um so my my my ex
Speaker 1: husband had a couple of affairs, and um, I think
Speaker 1: like finding the next love is always kind of like
Speaker 1: hard because you're so cautious at least I am, like,
Speaker 1: I'm so like scared to be like this is that
Speaker 1: going to happen again? Am I gonna get fooled? Is
Speaker 1: like the you know. And it's also always love hearing
Speaker 1: stories where it's like you just you gave your heart
Speaker 1: and he's a good guy. And I think that's a beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful story. Thank you. Um Can I just add like
Speaker 1: did you catch him cheating? Yeah? Yes, I mean it was.
Speaker 1: I would love to know. I would love to because
Speaker 1: like I just want to clear something up with about
Speaker 1: my ex. Sure, I never I never caught him cheating
Speaker 1: and trust me, girls, I'm the type that if I
Speaker 1: call him cheating, I would be done. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: giving you a second chance. I don't care if we
Speaker 1: have four kids. I'm not that tight. That's just me,
Speaker 1: you know, to each his own. You know, listen, if
Speaker 1: somebody forgives, God bless them, if they can move on
Speaker 1: by that, God bless them. I was never I'm not
Speaker 1: that tight. Once you stick your peeping and somewhere, can
Speaker 1: I say that, you can say penis, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just want to take it. I want to have a
Speaker 1: very note that I want to. You can say your
Speaker 1: dirty to just use Can I use peep? I'm like,
Speaker 1: yeah they do. I'm like burning all the time. She's
Speaker 1: like it's okay. I'm like I have a three year old.
Speaker 1: Like we talked about peeps. Yeah, I don't know a
Speaker 1: real good So if you if he stuck his peep
Speaker 1: and someone else, you're done. But like I'm having a
Speaker 1: good Yes, I'm done. Like there was no second chances. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's just me. You know, listen, I know there's women
Speaker 1: that you forgive and God bless them. If they can
Speaker 1: move on, that's good. You know, coud us to them.
Speaker 1: I just can never do that. So I just want
Speaker 1: every like because I want to put it out there
Speaker 1: that I never call my ex cheating. There was two
Speaker 1: women that um I had I thought something, but um
Speaker 1: I confronted them and you know, they both said no.
Speaker 1: The one started crying hysterical. She's like, how could you
Speaker 1: say that? And I was like, well, listen, you know,
Speaker 1: because you guys speak a lot, like I just want
Speaker 1: to know. And the tabloids did take their picture. They
Speaker 1: were they were in this place in the city, and
Speaker 1: Joe didn't even tell me about it. But then, this
Speaker 1: is why I believe Joe, because he was in his
Speaker 1: work close and he's and we were gonna that's when
Speaker 1: we were going through all legal troubles and he had
Speaker 1: met with her because he wanted her to testify in court.
Speaker 1: So I believed him, so I did, you know, I
Speaker 1: did believe him, and and um so he's like, that's
Speaker 1: why I met with her. But I'm like, you should
Speaker 1: have told me. And then, like, you see how people
Speaker 1: take pictures. So it's like, even if you wanted to
Speaker 1: get away with it, it's was kind of hard for
Speaker 1: him because we were in the public. Guy, but you know,
Speaker 1: what if he did do something with these two women,
Speaker 1: like they both denied it to me, Like if I
Speaker 1: was doing something with another guy, I would be like, yes,
Speaker 1: I am him, you know, I would say the truth.
Speaker 1: We really escilated quickly from Pep. I mean, we have
Speaker 1: just moved, We've got some listen to this whole podcast
Speaker 1: world is new for me, but I like love it
Speaker 1: and I can't wait. So so in your gut, like
Speaker 1: you don't think that he didn't then cheated in my
Speaker 1: gut listen, because I think a woman's gut is like
Speaker 1: the most is the strongest superpower we have, and I
Speaker 1: think so, I'm not so sure that those women know
Speaker 1: what You're right, but this was my thing. I did
Speaker 1: have four kids at the time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't just go by my gut like I needed
Speaker 1: like how do you tell your kids, like um oh,
Speaker 1: I thought daddy was cheating, but like I didn't. I
Speaker 1: wanted proofs, like I wanted them to say yes I
Speaker 1: am or yes, like I have pictures. Because my ex
Speaker 1: boyfriend that I dated, like before Joe, I dated him
Speaker 1: for six years and I called him like I actually
Speaker 1: call him. I spoke to the other girls. They showed
Speaker 1: me pictures like he was calling me, crying me, crying
Speaker 1: to me and saying, I missed you. I'm home Louis
Speaker 1: thanksgiving me while he's another girl in the Bahamas and
Speaker 1: the girls when your kids. Yeah, well anyway, and that
Speaker 1: girl showed me pictures of them being the Bahamas. Do
Speaker 1: you see what I mean? So it's like with this one,
Speaker 1: like they both denied it. So it's like, what do
Speaker 1: I do? So I believe Joe I did. I believed
Speaker 1: him and co parenting. How is that? Has that been? Okay?
Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, he's yeah, like you know, and my
Speaker 1: kids are really happy and I he you know, he's
Speaker 1: met Louie. Louise has been amazed, like Louis reached out
Speaker 1: to him. We went to the Bahamas with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Louise Louie is like I mean, like when
Speaker 1: he set it up the dinner with my ex because
Speaker 1: he deemed him and I didn't even know about it
Speaker 1: because we were going to Bahamas to pick up my
Speaker 1: youngest one because she had to go come home to
Speaker 1: go back to dance for competition, and he deemed him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what did you do? Like I'm freaking
Speaker 1: out like you am my ex for what. He's like,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have dinner with him? I'm like yeah, He's
Speaker 1: like he's like, don't you understand, Like if we're I
Speaker 1: want to be good with Joe because it'll make the
Speaker 1: girls feel comfortable. Like I'm just saying, he's just like
Speaker 1: a He's a gem. He Melissa, have you did you
Speaker 1: watch the show before you and Teresa started working together? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen. I mean I'm like a Bravo door. So
Speaker 1: you were like, just so, what do you so now
Speaker 1: like working you know, doing this podcast together. What is
Speaker 1: something that you've noticed that like people don't see about Teresa.
Speaker 1: I think it's just all of them in general, I
Speaker 1: mean whomever it is, like an athlete or you know,
Speaker 1: off the court or someone like you know, Teresa. I
Speaker 1: think there's just more to you know, who they are,
Speaker 1: and you know, they're also putting in not typical situations,
Speaker 1: right like you're all crazy bitches together, you're drinking, you're drunk,
Speaker 1: you're you know, emotions are running high. It's not a
Speaker 1: typical situation. And you know, we see a lot of
Speaker 1: fighting across the board from anyone if anyone obviously watches Housewives.
Speaker 1: It's not just Teresa, It's like across the board. So
Speaker 1: I get that. Um, you know, my husband works in entertainment.
Speaker 1: I've seen the behind the scenes with his clients and
Speaker 1: people that he has. So I'm always not one to
Speaker 1: judge a book. I have been judged a lot based
Speaker 1: on my appearance or whatever. What are people? What are
Speaker 1: people judging? What do they say about me? I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm also a Stanford met sort of fighting autritionist.
Speaker 1: I've worked out my whole life. I've played sports my
Speaker 1: whole life. Um, you know, if you're if you're too heavy,
Speaker 1: then you're shamed. Right. If you're fit or thin, then
Speaker 1: you have an eating disorder and eat a burger or
Speaker 1: the blonde from l A. I'm not from l A
Speaker 1: like I am a nutritionist. I just like to work
Speaker 1: out and stay healthy. So I mean people, I have
Speaker 1: two kids that are under five, so you know, the
Speaker 1: judgments are always there. I'm the last one to do that.
Speaker 1: I want to take the person for how they are
Speaker 1: and make my own assessments. And Teresa other people have
Speaker 1: not been cool with to me. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that from the Housewives, they're just in general Teresa from
Speaker 1: the get go was nothing but sweet, open, kind like genuine,
Speaker 1: so right off the bat, then I'm like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is someone not gonna be cool with. She's not fake,
Speaker 1: bit Like I can't handle that. Um and she was
Speaker 1: just always amazing right off the bat. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot more than everyone sees and hears. I love that.
Speaker 1: And and and then on Amastate Bitches, what are you guys
Speaker 1: wanting with that podcast? Like who are you bringing on?
Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? And then why should
Speaker 1: wind down? Listen to namast Bitches? Right after this? I
Speaker 1: mean true, let me and then you go true. I
Speaker 1: mean I think we listen because this is exactly it, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you don't hear these stories. You don't know these stories,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't see a lot of the Teresa
Speaker 1: behind the drawing up during on someone's face, or flipping
Speaker 1: a table right or fighting with a freaking sister or brother, Like,
Speaker 1: there's so much more to it. There's so much more.
Speaker 1: Do you know things about me personal life? Maybe what
Speaker 1: we've been through, what you've been through your hard times,
Speaker 1: maybe I've been through it, And so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of that out there that I think that we need
Speaker 1: to tell people and talk about that can help other
Speaker 1: people do. I mean, that's why are you on your
Speaker 1: platform right to talk about very serious personal things that
Speaker 1: have happened, the great things that have happened, being a mom,
Speaker 1: being on TV, you know, doing things, physical abuse, you know,
Speaker 1: all those things. So I think there's a lot more
Speaker 1: to both of us and people could ever imagine, and
Speaker 1: it's good for us to get it out there. It's
Speaker 1: good to help people to do it. Uh. And it's
Speaker 1: real and it's raw and it's not bullshit, and it's
Speaker 1: not safe, and it's not scripted and not saying Housewives
Speaker 1: is scripted, but I'm just saying it's just real, raw
Speaker 1: who I am and who theresas that you would never
Speaker 1: see by watching a show or reading some freaking tabloid. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just a that's something real quick. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was given this platform for a reason. UM.
Speaker 1: So many people come up to me and tell me, UM,
Speaker 1: like you're so inspiring that you know, um that if
Speaker 1: it was you know that everything I've been through there,
Speaker 1: like you've gotten me so much that they had cancer
Speaker 1: I helped them get through with UM, Like so many things, surgeries,
Speaker 1: so many things. So it's like I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 1: get it. Maybe you know this is why I was
Speaker 1: given this platform because you know I have been through
Speaker 1: so you know, like hard times and you know we
Speaker 1: all have. So if if I could help you know
Speaker 1: a few people out there, I would love to do that,
Speaker 1: like or encourage them to be strong and to keep
Speaker 1: it going and to not give up. Um, I want
Speaker 1: to do that. And there's so many doesn't everybody listening.
Speaker 1: When you hear me yelling at Theresa which she's covering
Speaker 1: the camera, I personally can't dogs to start barking in
Speaker 1: the background and have her young girl help her with
Speaker 1: how do we just got her face or got her
Speaker 1: finger back on? O'm sorry sack. Every day, well you
Speaker 1: know today is um young ppor so my children at
Speaker 1: home so it's a little crazy, but you know I'm
Speaker 1: a real mom, so and they have like they're all home,
Speaker 1: drive me here, drive me there. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm an uber driver. That's my second job,
Speaker 1: a reality I think it's important to say though too,
Speaker 1: because we started the show about like you know, I
Speaker 1: was kind of struggling like with purpose and then like
Speaker 1: you know, just um the platform, like why certain things
Speaker 1: happen to certain people. And I think you know with
Speaker 1: everything you've gone through, everything that you guys have both
Speaker 1: gone through. I mean now it's like now you have
Speaker 1: the platform, You're on the show, you're talking about how
Speaker 1: to you know, have a redemption story with a marriage
Speaker 1: and like Kristen, like with your miscarriages and you know,
Speaker 1: and everything else that you go through. Like you're like,
Speaker 1: we all have gone through things to be able to
Speaker 1: help that one person. So it's like, yeah, there's for
Speaker 1: the for the you know, a couple of thousand people
Speaker 1: bad mouthing us on a on a forum, it's like
Speaker 1: it's the and I'm like, I'm done with this. I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't want to do this anymore. I want
Speaker 1: to get on Instagram. It's the one person that comes
Speaker 1: up to us and says, hey, you're sharing your abuse story,
Speaker 1: saved my life or X Y and Z, And it's
Speaker 1: like that's where I'm like, Okay, there is a reason why.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yes, people are going to pick apart
Speaker 1: every word we say, every word you say, but it's
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there will be someone
Speaker 1: that actually knows your heart, here's your heart, and it helps.
Speaker 1: So we have a say in our house, truth over volume.
Speaker 1: So that's just where I keep my heart, Truth over volume.
Speaker 1: You know what. One, I'm sorry about your miscarriages, but
Speaker 1: it's again more things. Maybe you don't know that we've
Speaker 1: been throwing, but let's say you've been through that awesome.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, the odds are one of more
Speaker 1: than just me has right right one. And and it's
Speaker 1: just you know, for Teresa, as much as you might hear,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes I'm like, do like what even shocks you?
Speaker 1: Like what gets to you? Because I mean like you
Speaker 1: were just saying, like I'm done with this, the comments,
Speaker 1: the trolls, just the nastiness, Like that's not our jam
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I can't even tell you how
Speaker 1: many conversations we've had about this podcast and how do
Speaker 1: we do it? What do we do when we make
Speaker 1: it about and everything that comes out in math is
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be positive. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: like just like uplifting in this and that. And for
Speaker 1: as much as you think she gets, I just I'm like,
Speaker 1: doesn't that get to you? And she's like not, I
Speaker 1: mean nothing gets to this woman where I would probably
Speaker 1: I mean now anymore, I wouldn't, but it's it's it's
Speaker 1: quite amazing that like nothing really gets to her. I mean,
Speaker 1: trust me, bigs do get to me. That's why Margaret
Speaker 1: was wearing everything on the table like that. You know.
Speaker 1: But I you know, I have been working on myself,
Speaker 1: like I never believed in a therapist. And you'll see
Speaker 1: season three that, um, you know I do because you
Speaker 1: know what, a lot of people were triggering me. You know,
Speaker 1: we're trying to come after me, of course because I'm
Speaker 1: the o G and it gives him a platform. And
Speaker 1: I was just like I need to, like I don't
Speaker 1: want to get triggered anymore. Mean, but I don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to people on the Instagram, like the comments on yeah,
Speaker 1: any of that, I just ignore. I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not on it that watch. Um whatever I see, either
Speaker 1: I blocked the person, I delete it, or I just ignore.
Speaker 1: Those are the three things I do. But like, I
Speaker 1: have been working on myself to like, you know, to
Speaker 1: not try to feed into the negativity and to just
Speaker 1: you know, like in real life, like try to ignore
Speaker 1: all that nonsense. So I love it. Well, ladies, You're amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to listen to No Misty Bitches because it's
Speaker 1: just a place uplifting. I know it's going to be fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could both, you know, I would love to both
Speaker 1: learn from each other, like you know, and like I
Speaker 1: love that, you know, like and I want to hear
Speaker 1: your podcast. My Inner Table Flipper honors your Inner Table Flipper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what the rest or the Pope. No,
Speaker 1: but my thing is everyone has it in them, like absolutely,
Speaker 1: if it needs something a lot to someone and you're
Speaker 1: trying to hurt that person, it's just you know about everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody's different like with that. This is my this is
Speaker 1: like at it was my love. Like I met Louis,
Speaker 1: I fell in love with him, like I adored him,
Speaker 1: and I cure, someone's trying to hurt someone that I
Speaker 1: loved and it you know, and it bothered me. So
Speaker 1: I mean, and then the last time was one of
Speaker 1: my dear friends when I when I did the table flip,
Speaker 1: it was Dina and she was you know, like I
Speaker 1: knew she she wasn't a fighter, and and I was there,
Speaker 1: you know, Danielle was going after Dina. And then that's
Speaker 1: when I went, like, I was like, stop this, and
Speaker 1: I just like, I don't know, like I remembered like
Speaker 1: that whole table fi thing happened like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and like my dad would get our attention that way.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I need to get this bitch
Speaker 1: like quiet down, you know. And that was it. And
Speaker 1: I figured that, you know, I say, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it was just it happened. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: thinking about it, wasn't you know, premeditating it. And that
Speaker 1: was it and I got her attention. Well good for you,
Speaker 1: all right later as well, if you're ever in Nashville,
Speaker 1: hit us up and we can wind out literally all right.
Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies, appreciate you, thank you, thank you so
Speaker 1: much