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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt. My name

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Speaker 1: is knowing something's wrong, something something that there's an imbalance

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Speaker 1: in the force today. Oh, disturbance there is, indeed, because

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Speaker 1: Mr Boland is not in corporeal form with us. There's

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Speaker 1: a bend shaped whole, yes, where Ben should be. And

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Speaker 1: not only is there a bend shaped whole, there's a

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Speaker 1: mission control shaped whole in the form of a casey pegram. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but at least there's some corporeal being occupying that whole. Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and quite a good one, no doubt. Um. We we

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Speaker 1: are here in the studio on this day, a great day.

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Speaker 1: Is it Friday? It is a Friday. That's a good thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. We get two days off and then back

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Speaker 1: to the grind. That's what we do. I love the

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Speaker 1: grind every week of our lives, fifty two times a year.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the grind? The grind? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's necessary, so you look at it as a necessary

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Speaker 1: evil more than something you look forward to No, no

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Speaker 1: putting words in your mouth. It's necessary to to keep

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Speaker 1: this thing that we call civilization trucking alone, and just

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Speaker 1: to feed the content monster. Oh yeah, the content monster,

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Speaker 1: the economic batteries that we all are. It's true. If

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Speaker 1: we run out of juice, then what's the thing running on.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I'll tell you the speaking of

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Speaker 1: feeding the content monster. In Ben's um sad absence, he

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Speaker 1: is having amazing adventures. By the way, Oh, we can't

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Speaker 1: talk about well, we just would. We would prefer to

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Speaker 1: have his permission. It's his story to tell. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: leave it there. But yeah, we you know, we've got

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Speaker 1: we've got to keep this this conspiracy podcast train trucking along.

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Speaker 1: And so to do that, we thought we'd do one

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Speaker 1: of these fun uh here's where it gets crazy episodes

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Speaker 1: wherein we troll our own lurk on our own Facebook

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Speaker 1: group and pull the best tastiest bits out to make

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Speaker 1: a show. And it's so much stinking fun going through

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Speaker 1: the speed. You listening to this are amazingly witty and

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Speaker 1: you just pull stuff out of the ether that we

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff is like kind of bite size

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Speaker 1: nuggets that could maybe wouldn't get a whole episode on

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Speaker 1: their own. There are a couple though, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: a full episode about. Yes, so shall we jump right in,

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Speaker 1: Well we will. You know what, First, we got something

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Speaker 1: to mention business. There's some business we we need to

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Speaker 1: tell you. Guys. We're going on tour. Well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if it's the first time you've heard this, if

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Speaker 1: But we're going on tour from October to October. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be in Philadelphia, Boston, Arlington, Brooklyn, and Atlanta. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to hang out with us in the real,

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Speaker 1: the most likely simulated world, you can get your tickets

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Speaker 1: right now. That's right. You can go to stuff they

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Speaker 1: about some weird stuff we think we're it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really great time. And you know, Noel and Ben

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna have some surprises, maybe some multimedia type stuff.

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Speaker 1: public site. You can get all kinds of stuff, stickers

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Speaker 1: Who who posted our first thing that we're going to

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Speaker 1: and what he's referring to is protect your um, your

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Speaker 1: But the kicker is like, like my bank account, your

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Speaker 1: poles because of its gravitational field. I have a feeling

428
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Speaker 1: that's what the guys talking thinking about this person, whoever

429
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: the tax prepayer was. Um, have you seen that movie

430
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: Another Earth? I have not actually seen it. Yeah, it's

431
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: it's very divisive. A lot of people hate it, but

432
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed it. But it is about this other

433
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: clone of Earth kind of appearing in the sky and

434
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: then freaking everybody out. I have seen this. I have

435
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: seen that girl from the o A brit Marling. Unfortunately,

436
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: not much of it stuck with me. Yeah, no, that

437
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: one didn't either. But I like her other movie, A

438
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: Sound of My Voice, which is about like this kind

439
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: of cult that these uh, these guys, these journalists infiltrate

440
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: and um there. It's one of these things where they

441
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: really lean heavily on like is it real? It is

442
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: the magic real? Or is it just in your head?

443
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: You know? Which is? You know? That great? I like it.

444
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: People kind of give her a hard time. I really

445
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: like the OA too, but I don't know, you know,

446
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: on the the on vacation, well, I actually took a

447
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: vacation and I watched what was it? Like? It was insane, dude.

448
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: I only had to answer emails and do base camp

449
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: stuff like half the time, basse Camp being our inter

450
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: office chat, so sort of like slack. But go ahead, sorry, yeah,

451
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's just like slack. I didn't mean to

452
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: go into that too much, but it was I got

453
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: to watch a movie called Enemy which went on Netflix again,

454
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: or maybe I just discovered it on Netflix again, and

455
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: it's by a cool director, Villennil it is that's exactly

456
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: and Danny Villennial. I will not spoil it. It's it's

457
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: a strange movie that handles the doppel gang Er thing

458
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: and also um psychological issues really interesting. It's really really cool.

459
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: It has one of the most shocking endings, not in

460
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: any kind of gory or like you know, it's it's

461
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: it's more just like what we're like. Oh, and then

462
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of like so yeah, definitely worth checking that out.

463
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Speaker 1: Totally unrelated to secret hidden Planet behind the Sun, but

464
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: there was a response to Michelle's um mentioned of her

465
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Speaker 1: slightly unusual tax man um by Tom and he says,

466
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Speaker 1: you know, just the other night, I watched the movie

467
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Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty nine that worked on the premise of

468
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: just that a planet exactly opposite the Sun that matched

469
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Speaker 1: our orbit and was thus undetected. That craziness seems to

470
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: pop up occasionally. I know, it's an established belief in

471
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Speaker 1: some conspiracy circles. Was just amazed to see it, uh

472
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: premised in an old Kaiju movie from the sixties. It

473
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Speaker 1: was Attack of the Monster, which is actually one of

474
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Speaker 1: the Godzilla versus Gammera. You know, the Gamera being the

475
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Speaker 1: giant turtle. Um. And here's the description of this movie

476
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Speaker 1: from Wikipedia. Akio and Tom explore a portion of the

477
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Speaker 1: alien city and meet the planet's only inhabitants, two beautiful

478
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Speaker 1: women named Barbarella and Flora Bella, who explained that their planet,

479
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Speaker 1: known as Tara, orbits the Sun directly opposite the Earth,

480
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Speaker 1: which is why it has never been discovered by Earth's astronomers. Furthermore,

481
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Speaker 1: Tera is facing extinction. Not only is the planet growing cold,

482
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Speaker 1: but space guios I'm not sure what that is are

483
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: taking it over and the two women are the last

484
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Speaker 1: of their kind. Are the guios the creatures? I think so?

485
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: I thought they were kaijus though. Um. The knife headed monster,

486
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: which the Terrans called Gyron, is their latest defense against

487
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: the space guyos. Oh guys guyos are wait? Is this

488
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: is this correct? Let me make sure I'm on? Uh

489
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: what is this? Godzilla? WICKI and the guyos in Gammera.

490
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: They are like pterosaurs or back creatures. That's really cool. Oh.

491
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Speaker 1: They have arrow arrow shaped heads and leathery wings with

492
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Speaker 1: three claws on each talent feat each talented feat. I

493
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Speaker 1: love it. This is great. The next one we guys

494
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Speaker 1: from Diane or Diana rather says I wait tables at

495
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: a breakfast place at seven am. First customer of the

496
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: day sits down and says, I think I'll do shrimp

497
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Speaker 1: and grits. Did you know the earth is really flat? Oh?

498
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Just hit him with that boom boom like yes, I did,

499
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Enjoy your teeth. I bet you

500
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: could get a pretty good tip um from a flat

501
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: from flat earther if you like. Well, Diane did not

502
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: go that route. She uh Diana rather, she she was

503
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: was so startled. She says all I could think was

504
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: it's too early for this ship. Man, I haven't even

505
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: had my coffee yet. That's a great reaction. Uh and

506
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 1: and just too I don't know, jump on that topic

507
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: really fast. Mary posted a picture and it says flat

508
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: earthers explained the curvature clearly seen here. So flat earthers

509
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: explained the curvature clearly seen here. And it's an image

510
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: at the top of Mount Everest, and it looks as

511
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: though the Earth is curved like in shaped from from

512
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: the image that's on this post. I just have to

513
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: say this one thing, and uh, well, I wish Casey

514
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: would be on Mike to talk about this. But the

515
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: way because it does look right as far as the

516
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Earth goes and that that altitude, But the way camera

517
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: lens is function there is some there can be some

518
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: curving around the edges depending on what lens you're using. Sure,

519
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: like if you have like a wide angle lens and

520
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: you don't have it cropped in enough, like it'll actually

521
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: see a little bit of distortion around the edges, right, yes,

522
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: and Casey mentioned yeah, specifically a fish eye lens or

523
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: just a wide angle lens will do that to you.

524
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough in the image, however, you can kind of

525
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: see stuff at the edges of the frame that's in

526
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: the foreground that isn't distorted, that doesn't have that curved distortion. Um. So,

527
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: I you know, it's just thank you for posting because

528
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: it's it's had a lot of people commenting on it.

529
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Anytime flat Earth is brought up on here's where it

530
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: gets crazy. There's always some wonderful discussion and it is

531
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: like it's a popcorn kind of thing where you just

532
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: kind of sit and watch. Yeah, and like you know,

533
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: to quote Josh for stuff, you should know we're not

534
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: trying to yuck anyone's yum. And if flat Earth says

535
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: you're yum, we're not here to to yuck it. And honestly,

536
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: no matter what you believe, if you do believe in that,

537
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: we're we're not telling you not to. We're just saying

538
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: maybe it's probably not true. It's probably not but but

539
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: again we're not experts that we're scientists, so we have

540
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: to keep room for everything. Right, absolutely take it for

541
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: what it's worth. Um. It actually is a pretty great

542
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: YouTube video where a kid attached to go pro camera

543
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: to a hot air balloon and it goes up so

544
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: high that you very clearly see the curvature of the Earth. Yeah, well,

545
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: what what lens are they using? Bro? Alright to go

546
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: pro bro? Okay, that's pretty what I think. It's time

547
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: for a quick word from our sponsor and then we'll

548
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: get right back in to your posts on here's where

549
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: it gets crazy. Yes, we are indeed back, And before

550
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: we jump further into these awesome posts and comments, I

551
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: want to say the kid that I was talking about,

552
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: that that sent that camera up into beyond the atmosphere

553
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: to show the curvature of the Earth. A lot of

554
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: comments from the flat earth community on this post on

555
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: from of CNN saying it's just the curvature is from

556
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: the lens. It's you know, it's not a fish I

557
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, a go pro isn't fish eye. It's more

558
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: of a wide angle. Yeah. So, but apparently he kind

559
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: of was part of the flat earth community a little

560
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: bit and his kid named Adam Cudworth, and he kind

561
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: of got disowned after this. I think he was sort

562
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: of like saying, well, I don't think I believe this

563
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: anymore because I did this experiment, and then the community

564
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: kind of like turned on him. So jeez. You know

565
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: that we mentioned a long time ago where we talked

566
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: about this about the experiments you can do to test

567
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: the theories, and we've been getting some voicemails, some rather

568
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: uh angry voicemail is not angry, just arguments there. There

569
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Speaker 1: their arguments from people saying how that's incorrect and their

570
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: are experience you could do to prove the flower theory. Um,

571
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: so you know, again, it's gonna be actally get to

572
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: the edge and just don't and just didn't look over

573
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: like the earth is flat, Like, where's the edge? Because

574
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: you've gotta go past the ice room. Man, you can't

575
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: get past the ice room mountains. Come on, okay, come on, Sorry, sorry,

576
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm not up on it. It's all good. Let's let's

577
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: continue on with an unrelated post by Leaf. Leaf says, Hey, guys,

578
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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear an episode on Australian mythical creatures

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Speaker 1: like the Yawi or the bunyip b U n y

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Speaker 1: i p. I personally was not aware of any of these,

581
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: and in just doing a little bit of research, yes,

582
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Speaker 1: you realize there's this whole like pantheon of of Australian

583
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: mythical creatures that are super cool and many of them

584
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: rooted in real fossil record in trees, you know. So, um,

585
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: this is the one I was talking about. Well, we

586
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: have to say before we get into this that this

587
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: is a topic that I know Ben would relish. The

588
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: one at the top of the show. I was like,

589
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: this is some of these might deserve an episode in themselves.

590
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: This is definitely one of them, but just a few

591
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: of them. One we found is something called drop bears,

592
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: and this came from Owen who chimed in on this thread,

593
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: and this idea from this National Geographic article that he

594
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: posted is that back in the day in Australia, you

595
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: might just be walking along doing your thing when a

596
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: dark shape plummets onto you from above, pinning you down

597
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: before you realize that you're being eaten alive by an

598
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: overgrown kowala. What. Yeah, and this is meant to be

599
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: sort of for funzies, because the idea is that's not true.

600
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: There was no carnivorous koalas that eight human flesh. And

601
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: yet um this myth, the idea that the drop bear

602
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: because it gets the drop on you, it jumps down

603
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: on you. Um, that's horrified. Yeah, it really is. It

604
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: sticks around. Uh, it's it's kind of been considered a

605
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: bit of a hoax, but paleontologists and fossil ficionados are

606
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: aware of a creature called the thigh look Khalio carnifex,

607
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: which they referred to as a marsupial lion. And that's

608
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a like an eating flesh

609
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: eating koala. Yeah. And you can see a picture of

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Speaker 1: this thing at Australian Museum dot net dot a U

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Speaker 1: slash th h y l A c O l EO

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Speaker 1: dash Carnifax, which is c A R N I F

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Speaker 1: e X And this thing actually to type all that

614
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: into your your phone right now. Yeah, just just just

615
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: just keep use that ten second button. You got this,

616
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: You got this um, but like it's just google drop

617
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: bear and you'll get it. But this thing looks like

618
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: some wink something between like a wallaby and like a

619
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Speaker 1: tiger bear. And yeah, it looks horrifying and it would

620
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: have eaten you alive. Apparently it also has teeth. It's

621
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: called cheek teeth, large slicing cheek teeth. What does that mean?

622
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do not want to encounter

623
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: cheek teeth ever, No, thank you, No, definitely not. So

624
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: there we go. That's the drop bear. But we can

625
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: go into I want to hear more about the mythology

626
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: behind some of these creatures. Another suggestion in this thread

627
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: came from Michael, who sent us an article about um,

628
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: a giant fossilized snake skeleton that was found um in

629
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Speaker 1: the Australian Outback that is linked to something called dream Time.

630
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: You know about dream Time? Yes, you know. It was

631
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: mentioned in a book that my son just got. But

632
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: tell me more. Yeah, the dream time is is really

633
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: difficult to kind of like almost to translate into uh

634
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: an easily digestible concept, but it is kind of a

635
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: historical period, I guess in early Man, the aboriginal Um

636
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: people of the Australian outback, and the idea that they

637
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Speaker 1: had this whole pantheon of spiritual practices and gods and

638
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: animals and this idea that animals could talk to each

639
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: other and UM, A lot of it's still around today

640
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: and they call it the dreaming and it's actually featured

641
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: pretty heavily in uh the Sandman comics. I want to say,

642
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: there's like a there's a big story about the well

643
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: the dreaming and in the Sandman world. But also like

644
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: there's a there is definitely some dreamtime stories in uh

645
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: in in sad Manified. Yeah. But anyway, this this article

646
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: is about this particular giants gus snake skeleton, this serpent

647
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: that was found that kind of references in particular creature

648
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: from the dreamtime known as the Rainbow serpent, and this

649
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: particular type of prehistoric giant snake has a really difficult

650
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to pronounce scientific term called mad soyds M A d

651
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: M A d T s O I I D s

652
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: Um and they've recently unearthed just a pile of these

653
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: things in the deep north of the Cape York Peninsula

654
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: in Australia. Okay, so, okay, Well there's a little taste

655
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: of some of this stuff. It's out there. There's real

656
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: fossil evidence of this, and I'm really interested in getting

657
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: into more of the dreamtime stuff. We just kind of

658
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: barely scratched it, but those were some really good ideas

659
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: and I think we may have an episode about that

660
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: in our future. And oh, you wanted to say a

661
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: little bit of something about the bun y up, Yeah,

662
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: just the bunyip in the alley are really interesting, the

663
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Speaker 1: two that were mentioned in the post. The ali is

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Speaker 1: I would say, close to a kin to a big

665
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: foot or a sasquatch or some some version of that.

666
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: And then the bunyip is really fascinating, like swamp creature.

667
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's aquatic, right, yeah, like an aquatic animal

668
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: that you know there are a lot of reasons for

669
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Speaker 1: its existence. It's like a really good cautionary tale for

670
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: a kid. The like, if you talk about the existence

671
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: of this this scary creature, they could get you because

672
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: they're all of all sorts of scary things that can

673
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: get you in water, especially if you're in Australia. So,

674
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: my god, speaking of Australia, our buddies and stuff you

675
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: should know are about to do an Australian tour. And

676
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: somebody posted on their sisk Army page apparently there's a

677
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Speaker 1: thing in Australia called Magpie Season where like these magpies

678
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: just dive bomb random people like riding their bikes. Magpies, Yeah,

679
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: they're like they're like, you know, they're they're bigger than crows.

680
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: They almost look like falcons or something. And there's a

681
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: video somebody post him of this poor girl riding her

682
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: bike with a helmet on, knowing that she was going

683
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: to get attacked by this magpie because it was just

684
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: like danger zone magpie area, and this thing just is

685
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: relentless and just keeps dive bombing her head over and

686
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: over and over again. And I just, I just I replied,

687
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: this is terrifying, because you know how I feel about birds.

688
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, highly terrifying. Our next post comes from

689
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: Mark Danco and his text just says wa, and he's

690
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: posted another post like I guess a repost or taking

691
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: a picture of a screen grab and it's uh, someone

692
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: named Duncan McMaster saying Stanley Kubrick was hired to fake

693
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: the moon landing, but his perfectionism made them film it

694
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: on location on the moon Up. He's gonna leave that

695
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: one there. That's great. And then there's a comment on Twitter,

696
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: the only moon landing conspiracy theory I'll ever believe. Yeah,

697
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty great. I'm pretty into it. So into that.

698
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark, Uh, we really appreciate it. I think

699
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot of other people appreciated it too. And then

700
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: our next post comes from Nicholas Setler, I believe or sailer.

701
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: He posted a meme about the recent lawsuit against Monsanto's

702
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: product called round Up, and he said a San Francisco

703
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: court just awarded two hundred and eighty nine million dollars

704
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: to a school groundskeeper after it was determined that he

705
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: got cancer from using Monsanto's round Up every day. And

706
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: then he the meme says, so let me get this straight.

707
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: The conspiracy theorists were right again and tried to warn

708
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: us about this over five years ago. Um, what can

709
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: I What can I say? Nicholas? The conspiracy theorists it

710
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: seemed to have been right. But we've got some more

711
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: context here for you for this. If you haven't heard

712
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: about this lawsuit, yeah, I haven't actually heard a ton

713
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: about it until you mentioned it, matt Um and seeing

714
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: it on the page. But get glog. What's the what

715
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: are the what are the dats? Okay? So there's this

716
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: lawsuit that was filed in seen by a man named

717
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Speaker 1: Dwane Johnson. He was or his is or was I'm

718
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: not exactly sure what he's doing right now, but he

719
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: was a school system groundskeeper in California, and he alleged

720
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Speaker 1: that his use of Monsanto's gliophosphate based herbicides both round

721
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: up in this other one called Ranger Pro their gliophosphate

722
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: based um and they kill plants, lots and lots of plants,

723
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: among other things. And he's saying that his use of

724
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: these chemicals caused him to develop non Hodgkins limp foma. Uh,

725
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: some pretty serious cancer. So then in August of eighteen

726
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: last week, as we are sitting in this room recording

727
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: this episode, a California jury deliberated for three days and

728
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: then they found Monsanto liable for Mr. Johnson's cancer, specifically

729
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: it concluded that the company had failed to warn Dwayne

730
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: Johnson of the cancer risks associated with the use of

731
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: their products. And here's the thing that that logic and

732
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: that decision doesn't. They're not saying they failed to just

733
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: warn him. They're saying this company failed to warn all

734
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: users of their products about the cancer risk. And that's

735
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: like one of the most that's like the ubiquitous weed killer,

736
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: like you know, round up and around forever, you know, roundup. Ready,

737
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: crops are a massive issue. And here's the thing that's

738
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: interesting is the reason we're hearing about this case and

739
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: seemingly pretty speedy result here, right, is because he was

740
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: granted special dispensation because he had terminal cancer. And that's

741
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: a thing you can get judged to grant you a

742
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: quicker turnaround or you know, get to your case quicker.

743
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: I guess if if you have those kind of conditions,

744
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: but are more than eight hundred other patients that are

745
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: soon wing mon Santo in a class action. So how

746
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: cool is it or however you feel about it? I mean,

747
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: it's it's certainly interesting that there is a definitive you know,

748
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: this is your fault, Monsanto. You messed up we're awarding

749
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: this guy this massive amount of money. How is that

750
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: going to affect this class? I would think positively? Well, well,

751
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: here here's the thing. Okay, so their ordered to pay

752
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: thirty nine million in compensation to Mr Johnson as well

753
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: as two and fifty million dollars in punitive damage. Um.

754
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: The thing is that Monsanto is they already stated they're

755
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: going to appeal the verdict. I think that's pretty obvious.

756
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna appeal until they can't um. And they also

757
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: stated that hundreds of scientific studies and reviews support the

758
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: fact that glop phosphate does not cause cancer, and it

759
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: did not cause Mr Johnson's cancer. However, one of the

760
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: lawyers from Mr Johnson, he stated that as uh. As

761
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: part of the trial, the jury was shown these internal memos,

762
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: these documents from mon Santo that proved mon Santo had

763
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: known for decades that gliophost fate and specifically round up

764
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: could cause cancer. Well, the same stuff we see with

765
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: like these pharmaceutical companies and like what was it the

766
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Purdue or whatever? When did the opiates episode the other week?

767
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: They knew that oxy cotton was was was just as addictive,

768
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: and yet continued to push that company line of no,

769
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: it's fine, and they I think went so far as

770
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: to either falsify or hold back you know, study data

771
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: that they had. I mean, these companies will stop at

772
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: nothing to keep pushing their products on the public if

773
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: if they're doing well. You know, have you seen the

774
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: show Succession on HBO? I really want to though, I

775
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: really want to. Yeah, I plan on it very soon.

776
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: It's about sort of a like a Trump esque family, right. Uh,

777
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: it's it's closer to a corporate uh you know, bmth

778
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of like it's closer to like someone who would

779
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: own a CNN or something because I think it's based

780
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: on Ruper Murder or Murdoch. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it's

781
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote it, I want to say, had

782
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: his hands in a bunch of interesting kind of comedy stuff,

783
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: like I think he wrote for a peep show and um,

784
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: another show that we talked about recently. Well, yeah, and

785
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: Adam McKay, Will Ferrell, they're they're both involved in this show.

786
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this guy Jesse Armstrong, he wrote for Peep Show,

787
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: which I love if you haven't seen that, and the

788
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: and the political movie in the Loop. Um, the Armando

789
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: in Nucci movie, which we talked about recently, and I

790
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: haven't actually haven't seen it, but I really love Death

791
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: of Stalin. Oh nice, Yeah, Death of Stalin. I haven't

792
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: seen that, but I will. But the reason I bring

793
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: up Succession is because they they refer to this concept

794
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: of where the bodies are buried within a company, like

795
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: where all the bad stuff is that we can't let out.

796
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: They referred to it as the death pit, I believe,

797
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: and this just feels like mon Santo's one of mon

798
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Santo's death pits. But it's interesting to see such a

799
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: distinct victory, you know, for someone who clearly was you know,

800
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's you know, maybe I don't want

801
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: to sound just like I'm so insanely anti corporate on

802
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: every level, but when you see stuff like this, it

803
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: actually affects people's lives, and then the companies are like,

804
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: you know, resulting to every dirty trick in the book.

805
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: It it kind of feels like a little bit of

806
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: come up and see you now. It's nice to see

807
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: the little the little guys, you know, win occasionally interested

808
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: to see how this class action progresses. I agree completely,

809
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: And here's the final I'm gonna read the entire final

810
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: paragraph from this New York Times article. In September, the

811
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: e p A, or Environmental Protection Agency, concluded a decades

812
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: long assessment of glio phosphate risks and found that the

813
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: chemical was not likely carcinogenic to humans, But the World

814
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: Health Organization's Cancer arm in classified glio phosphate as probably

815
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: carcinogenic to humans. So there you go. Okay, it doesn't

816
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: get more cut and drying that. Yeah, who has more

817
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: were of a financial interest in that? Huh? Anyway, all right,

818
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: let's let's let's move on. Oh wait, nol, we should

819
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: probably take a word from it. I think it's time

820
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: I need a little pause for the cause. Our next

821
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: post came from Simon Gregory, and all he did was

822
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: put a very inconspicuous little link to a very odd website. Yeah,

823
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: something called as Guardia. What's as Guardia, Matt, Well, it's

824
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: specifically as Guardia dot space slash e n and uh

825
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: as Guardia. Man. That sounds familiar, doesn't it. Yeah, other

826
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: than being the realm of the gods in Norse mythology, Um,

827
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: this as guard and he just makes it sound more futuristic,

828
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: it does, I guess it does so. UM as Guardia

829
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: purports to be the world's first ever space nation, also

830
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: referring to themselves on this site as a space kingdom. Yeah,

831
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: and it was founded and funded by a guy named

832
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Igor Asher Bailey UM who is a member of the

833
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: Aerospace International Research Center. And the whole idea here is

834
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: that as Guardia wants to be an independent nation in

835
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: space and become a member of the u N. In

836
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: order to achieve this, they launched UM a back in

837
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: November of seventeen, a small bread loaf size. That's how

838
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: I've seen described satellite, the Asgardia one UM into space. UM.

839
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Speaker 1: The idea was that it would orbit at the International

840
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: Space Station, where it remained until it then deployed to

841
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: low Earth orbit. And their claim here is that this

842
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: somehow gives them sovereignty in space because they have establiss

843
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: like planting a flag kind of space, because I guess

844
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: no one owns space, right, Like that's sort of the idea. Yeah,

845
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: that's that's hilarious. I have seen that this thing actually

846
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: contains some data or something or yeah, no, not only that, UM.

847
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: And you can actually, if you're remember, you can upload

848
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: your own stuff to it to what end. I'm not

849
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: certain for tere well, one terabyte is what's on it now.

850
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm surely has more storage. Okay. But there is a

851
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: field on the site, on the Ascardia site where if

852
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: you have a log in and are actually a member,

853
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: which we'll get into in a second, you this little

854
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: form where you can upload um any material, photos, anything

855
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: that you want up there in space. Um. But you know,

856
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: sure seems like they're an awful long way away from

857
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: having any kind of space colonies. I don't think they're

858
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: gonna get the two hundred thousand plus citizens that they have. Uh,

859
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: They're not going to fit into that bread bread loaf, right,

860
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna They're gonna have to do some serious coordination. Um.

861
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. There are two hundred thousand people

862
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: that have identified themselves as citizens, and they're across the

863
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: world and two hundred plus countries. Uh, and they claim

864
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: on the site to be a hundred and seventy one

865
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: in population size. And they're actually holding parliamentary style all

866
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: actions right now. And there are several high profile UK

867
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: lawmakers that are running. Oh my god, that's amazing. It's

868
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Yeah. And um, this is another one that

869
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: I think there's enough information and enough intrigue behind the

870
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: establishment of this. I want to know more about their goals.

871
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: I want to know more about how they actually plan

872
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: to get these people into space. But it's all just

873
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: kind of smoking mirrors and and the stories behind these

874
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: kind of high profile UK lawmakers. A guy named limbit

875
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: Opik who has had more scandals than you can shake

876
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: a stick at, and a guy named Nigel evans Um

877
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: are both very intensely involved. So I kind of want

878
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: to just tease it at that and and you look

879
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: into it yourselves, folks, and prep for maybe an episode

880
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: coming up on as Gardia. Yes please. I think one

881
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: way you can do it is just like send sequenced

882
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: DNA up there, like just data from people's DNA. That way,

883
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: when it when it gets discovered somehow in the future

884
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: by our AI overlords, the can just recreate the biologic

885
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: biological life. I don't like it, Okay, cool, Yeah that's right,

886
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: you're you at a space camp. Yeah, but even preparing

887
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: for this for your your whole life, dude, But cards

888
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: coming back, I'm ready, let's do this. Pcardi's coming back. Piccardi. Yeah,

889
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: the only vodka. Uh, Space faring captain. Okay, so let's

890
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: go to Adam Williams. He he posted about a gentleman

891
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: named Richard B. Russell, and I'll just read what he

892
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: says here. Twenty nine year old grounds service employee at

893
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Alaska Airlines stole a Dash eight from C Tach just

894
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: to do a flip and see some whales before the

895
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: plane ran out of fuel. Unfortunately it came to a

896
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: fiery end, but out of harm's way to anyone else.

897
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: Very good audio and video of the incident on YouTube

898
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: search for stolen plane Seattle, and Richard wrote a little

899
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: bit more. You can see it on on the page

900
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: if you want to go check out. But let's go

901
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: ahead and play a quick excerpt from the audio that

902
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: he's speaking about here, just flying the plane around. Do

903
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: you seem comfortable with that? Oh? Hell yeah, it's the

904
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: blast man. I played video games before, so I uh,

905
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, I know what I'm doing a little bit okay,

906
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: and uh And you can see all the terrain around you.

907
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: You've got no issue with visibility or anything. No, everything's

908
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: peach PC clean. Just did a little circle around right

909
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: near It's beautiful. Um, I think I got some gas

910
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: to go check out the Olympics and uh yeah, okay,

911
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: and rich do you know are you able to tell

912
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: what altitude you're at the jets? No, I'm not taking

913
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: it to any jets. I'm actually keeping you away from

914
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: aircraft that they're trying to land. A seat tech. Oh okay, yeah,

915
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to screw that. I'm glad, glad you're not,

916
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, screwing up everyone else's day. So, yes,

917
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: this is a real thing. This just happened on August

918
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: eleven of uh. This gentleman Richard Russell. He was also

919
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: known as Bibo, also known as sky King, and that's

920
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: probably how you might know of him right now. Is

921
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: that his gamer handle, because apparently he has only experienced

922
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: flying was playing video games. Yes, if that at least

923
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: he says that in the in the video or in

924
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: the air traffic control communication. He was a twenty nine

925
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: year old ground service employee with a place called the

926
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: Horizon Air and he was working out of the Seattle

927
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: Tacoma International Airport. And yes, he did steal a twin

928
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: engine turboprop plane from this maintenance area and he instantly

929
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: I was watching some live leak videos when this was

930
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: happening in real time. People were uploading, and he became

931
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: an Internet meme and a legend when the recordings of

932
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: his communications with air traffic came out because he was

933
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: just calm as anything. He said, it was the first

934
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: time you've ever flown a pretty large plane, and he

935
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: was doing maneuvers like flips and barrel rolls, and he

936
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: somehow had taught himself how to do this stuff just

937
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: with like Microsoft Flight simulating and other things. Um, he

938
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: was not trained to be a pilot. Pretty stinking insane. Um.

939
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: And you know what were his motives? Like why did

940
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: he want He just wanted to have some yucks. Motives

941
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: are unclear right now, but it does seem as though

942
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: maybe he was dealing with something depression or some issues.

943
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: This guy did crash the plane and and die, but

944
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: whether he did that intentionally is still a bit of

945
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: an unknown. It's kind of a conjecture. I would I

946
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: would say that it is not a hundred percent clear

947
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: that he was suicidal, but the things he said certainly

948
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: would lead you to believe that he was. Yeah, he

949
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: he did say in this conversation with air traffic control

950
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: that he knew how to put the landing gear down,

951
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: but that he wasn't really planning on doing it, on

952
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: landing it, and then he referred to himself as a

953
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: broken guy with with some screws loose. I think, yeah,

954
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, pretty pretty bold way to go. Yeah, And

955
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: there's no real stuff they don't want you to know

956
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: here outside the fact that this maintenance worker was able

957
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: to successfully steal hijacks steal a plane and not to

958
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: mention like how in the same way as with the

959
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: credit card scam right earlier, Um, how is this going

960
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: to affect the kind of access that employees get? You know,

961
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: as security gets tighter and tighter, Um, every interaction we

962
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: have in society is starting to get more and more monitored,

963
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: and we're just looking for new potential threats always, and

964
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: like now it's like we're looking at him from the inside.

965
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: So I wonder if it's gonna require different clearances or

966
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: what what what it's going to mean for for people,

967
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, at airports. I don't know, there's a lot

968
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: of potential for change there. And I would just say

969
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about how you get a plane

970
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: to start, like a giant turboprop engine plane to start.

971
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Are their keys involved, Is their code involved their software?

972
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna look it up and

973
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: learn more, so I guess yeah. Here here's to you,

974
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: skuy King. Our final post for this episode comes from

975
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: Alex Laski and he posted a Guardian story and it's

976
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: the title is man find for pretending to be a

977
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: ghost in Portsmouth Cemetery? Yeah? And the reason this is great,

978
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: uh is because the it's like the commentary is his interviewer,

979
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: where do you see yourself in five years? Me? And

980
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: in this post man find for pretending to be a

981
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: ghost of cemetery? And I couldn't help but let this

982
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: oh oh yeah? And then the below the below the

983
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: headline police spokesman say witnesses complained about Anthony Stallard throwing

984
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: his arms in the air and saying and it couldn't

985
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't help but be reminded of our Ghosts of

986
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: Versailles episode where there was like some question as to

987
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: whether these two emmen who claimed to have seen the

988
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: ghosts of Marie Antoinette and several other members of her

989
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: court in the gardens around Versailles weren't just seeing like

990
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: reenactors or like some kind of people in costume or

991
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, folks pretending to be ghosts. Yeah, what was it?

992
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: We don't know. Uh. This dude, by the way, Anthony

993
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: Stallard had to pay thirty five pounds and he was

994
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: also he was fighting to pounds in order to pay

995
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: twenty pounds uh to a victim. Oh, it's called a

996
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: victims surcharge, as well as twenty pounds in cost So

997
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: after a will find there for pretending to be a ghost.

998
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: And boy, what a what a wild ride this one's been, Matt,

999
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes it has. We have been here, there, and and

1000
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: and yawn. This is certainly where it got crazy today.

1001
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: And while I miss uh, you know, this bend shaped

1002
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: void here and the bend shaped hole in my heart.

1003
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a bit of a bummer. I'm

1004
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: glad we were able to push forward and get one

1005
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: of these out and to look forward to doing the

1006
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: next one with Sir Ben back in full corporeal glory.

1007
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: That's right. If you've written emails to us in gosh

1008
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: the past a hundred days, we've been collecting them and

1009
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: putting together a listener mail episode, so that will be

1010
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: coming out in a little while too, So look forward

1011
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: to that. As well. Dude, we have over a hundred

1012
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: and forty two voicemail messages. Some of them are pretty weird, yes,

1013
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: very weird, and some of them were great. Shout out

1014
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: to you Johnny Planet, who has left I think our

1015
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: record eight messages thus far, maybe more old j P.

1016
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: Johnny Planet out there in Santa Cruz, Um. Shout out

1017
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,440
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1018
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,440
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1019
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1020
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1021
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Speaker 1: join up. All you have to do is know the

1022
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: names of the people who host this show. Yeah, use

1023
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: your imagination and then no, wait, don't you imagine I

1024
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: should name the names? Then you'll get into tom. Also,

1025
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,000
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1026
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1029
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1030
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1031
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1035
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1036
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Speaker 1: All of these places were usually conspiracy stuff. We're on

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1038
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1039
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1040
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1041
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1042
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