Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 2: Family.
Speaker 3: It's your girl to mek A d.
Speaker 1: Mallord and it's your boy my son in general.
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Speaker 2: That you know, what's happen, what's you know what?
Speaker 3: I was reading an article that says we're not we're
Speaker 3: not supposed to sleep with our cell phones on the
Speaker 3: side of the bed. They say, not even in the room.
Speaker 3: But what I be trying to understand is why do
Speaker 3: they sell us stuff.
Speaker 2: Let's gonna kill it? That is, I mean, that's how
Speaker 2: I think that's the one.
Speaker 3: No, But I mean this article was saying some serious ship.
Speaker 3: It was saying, basically, the radiation from the five G
Speaker 3: is like not humanly consumable, like it's not good for
Speaker 3: you. You should not have it in your space overnight, like
Speaker 3: it's already And I guess it's true because now you're
Speaker 3: talking about twenty four hours a day you're dealing with
Speaker 3: the radiation from the towers and your phone. And they said,
Speaker 3: do not even have it next to your bed. They
Speaker 3: talked about also like the tea television, the rays, like
Speaker 3: how people sleep with the TV on overnight. I know
Speaker 3: I do sometimes it.
Speaker 2: I'm scared of the dark. Oh see, I'm scared of
Speaker 2: the dok.
Speaker 1: I'm been scared since I was a kid. I don't
Speaker 1: play but no, no, nor don't play.
Speaker 2: But that.
Speaker 3: TM I the real con they's too much information. It's
Speaker 3: not but I but you.
Speaker 2: Know, I do.
Speaker 3: I sleep and I also, thankfully I am not afraid
Speaker 3: of the dark. When I was a kid, I was
Speaker 3: so afraid of the dark.
Speaker 2: It wasn't funny.
Speaker 3: I used to wake up and swore that I saw
Speaker 3: things running across the I mean it just was. I
Speaker 3: had a monsters in my it was bad. I was
Speaker 3: traumatized in the projects we had to with the aluminum
Speaker 3: for I told the story before over the light bulb
Speaker 3: so I can have a night light in my room,
Speaker 3: Like this is very very serious when I and I
Speaker 3: had to get over that. So now I will at
Speaker 3: least sometimes I turn TV and I just I won't
Speaker 3: even have it on too fall asleep because I can
Speaker 3: do that AnyWho. The phone is a little different because
Speaker 3: when I wake up, for like, I wake up all night.
Speaker 3: That's part of my anxiety. I you know, I'll look
Speaker 3: a little bit send emails. But they're saying in this
Speaker 3: particular article that is actually not healthy for you at
Speaker 3: all to have your phone in the room and definitely
Speaker 3: not next to you, because you are basically consuming all
Speaker 3: this radioactive energy throughout the night. Now people sleep with
Speaker 3: it in their bed. Yeah, with the whole phone, the
Speaker 3: charging chords, the that's not good. That's not good, and
Speaker 3: the extension chord because the thing don't don't run long
Speaker 3: enough in the stags over there, like yep, all of
Speaker 3: the all of the above.
Speaker 2: Yeah, need the stuff.
Speaker 3: But that's really I mean this thing. All I know
Speaker 3: is that the rate that we are being diagnosed with cancer,
Speaker 3: these little articles they hide it over here. It is
Speaker 3: behind a paywall. You might see one or two posts
Speaker 3: about it on socials. Meanwhile, this is information we really
Speaker 3: need to have.
Speaker 1: So I need to create like a little phone box,
Speaker 1: right that you could put your phone in and blocks
Speaker 1: the radiation.
Speaker 3: How would your family members reach you if something is wrong?
Speaker 2: But you can hear it with blockeration, so you only
Speaker 2: use it. Take it off the box.
Speaker 3: Well, I have a house phone, so I think maybe
Speaker 3: the house phone is still.
Speaker 2: Is the radiation blocker.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is the rate to which we are
Speaker 3: getting being died knows with cancer, and people are saying,
Speaker 3: where are we getting all of this cancer from. Sure,
Speaker 3: the food is important, and they didn't specifically say that
Speaker 3: it's going to give you cancer. It basically implied and
Speaker 3: said that these are some of the things, and one
Speaker 3: of them is not being able to rest properly because
Speaker 3: it's like you have energy going all around you all
Speaker 3: the time. It's not healthy.
Speaker 2: So I was just.
Speaker 3: Reading that and it just it really brought me to
Speaker 3: my thought of the day because also, you know, Painkillers
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite shows on Netflix. I watched Painkillers,
Speaker 3: I've watched Dope Sick. I love these shows, and well
Speaker 3: it's not that I love them, but I'm into it
Speaker 3: because of my personal experience with opioids. And I as
Speaker 3: I was watching Painkillers for like the fifth time, I
Speaker 3: really honed in again on the Food and Drug Administration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big thing.
Speaker 3: Well, actually it's not. And that's what's scary.
Speaker 2: Well, explain that.
Speaker 3: Well, because it's not like it's not it's not a
Speaker 3: forty thousand person department within the federal government. There are
Speaker 3: it's a smaller entity of people who have guidelines that
Speaker 3: they're pretty much checking off. I don't know why, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought that these people was
Speaker 3: in white coats and there are people within the Food
Speaker 3: and Drug Administration that are actual doctors and all of that.
Speaker 3: So let me not scare people. But it's not as
Speaker 3: robust as I thought. I'm thinking that there is a
Speaker 3: lad and everything that they do, they gotta bring it
Speaker 3: on something like what and that is not the game.
Speaker 3: It's so you have to be really careful, really really careful.
Speaker 3: We got a doctor coming up. We're gonna talk a
Speaker 3: little bit about it.
Speaker 1: Pretty much goes to you know, I put it in
Speaker 1: the song and so on, on painkillers, the serious and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: they pretty much make drugs.
Speaker 2: You deal, we do a hundred years and they pay
Speaker 2: a fine.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is that when we looked at the
Speaker 1: reality is the family who created the the OXYI, which
Speaker 1: is one of the most addictive drugs in the world
Speaker 1: that's killed probably about a million.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of that because.
Speaker 1: It was that when they made it, they said it
Speaker 1: was a five hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of parents.
Speaker 1: Who are who have overdose to and they were they
Speaker 1: had to pay like a four hundred million dollars five
Speaker 1: with their billionaires.
Speaker 2: So they paid this five.
Speaker 1: They go back and they continue to make more money,
Speaker 1: and they ain't take Isak off the market. People are
Speaker 1: still being prescribed. And they know the addictiveness of it.
Speaker 2: They know the mortality rate of it, they know all
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 1: But if ray ray on the corner, he get caught
Speaker 1: with ten to twelve field, is he gonna do ten
Speaker 1: and twelve years? So maybe more so it's just like
Speaker 1: we we have to just be open mind. And that's
Speaker 1: why when you say you thought this was this robust,
Speaker 1: they know this is just another agency.
Speaker 3: It's like any other agency. And because lobbied exactly say
Speaker 3: lobby I'm gonna say lobbyed, so right, And then then
Speaker 3: that means that outside entities like the medical industry, they
Speaker 3: have actual power and the decisions that's being made. It's
Speaker 3: just like, yo, this is why I don't like to
Speaker 3: talk about the sex stuff, because this is why people
Speaker 3: be like, I don't I'm not, I don't care about voting.
Speaker 1: I don't want to because because it's a lot, because
Speaker 1: who's gonna vote when you know that they're playing around.
Speaker 3: But you have to pay attention to these things right
Speaker 3: like when you elected president or you elect certain types
Speaker 3: of people, congressional members and others. These are the things
Speaker 3: that we because we're looking for police accountability, students, debt relief,
Speaker 3: women's health issues, we look at this and say, we
Speaker 3: don't always start reading the fine print of how people
Speaker 3: feel about certain agencies. So they might be talking about
Speaker 3: defunding certain agencies and making people responsible for figuring out
Speaker 3: what their their concoctions for food and whatever are on
Speaker 3: your own. They can be so drugs, they can be
Speaker 3: saying that I'm not saying they are people. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that they are I'm saying they could make those decisions.
Speaker 3: And because it's not something that comes top of mind,
Speaker 3: you don't even read that part of the campaign with
Speaker 3: materials or on the website for the president. You're not
Speaker 3: even looking at that. And we should actually know that
Speaker 3: the Food and Drug Administration is being fully funded and
Speaker 3: has the type of things that they need to be
Speaker 3: effective in their jobs. Anyway, just I was in my
Speaker 3: fool in the day today is the agencies, the aid
Speaker 3: the federal agencies need. Everybody needs a boss. The transportation
Speaker 3: industry not just the boss needs the airplane people are
Speaker 3: they doing whatever?
Speaker 2: This isn't The only people that have bosses is poor people.
Speaker 2: Oh that's it.
Speaker 3: The transportation people are not, not the Deltas and the
Speaker 3: I love Delta by the way, not the American.
Speaker 2: The pilots, you're crazy, you know. It's unny. They may
Speaker 2: they not forty, but I'm doing I want, I say
Speaker 2: what i want to do what I want.
Speaker 3: But it's really the ones that own the companies Southwest,
Speaker 3: but the.
Speaker 1: Pretty much pilots are contract it's pretty much because they
Speaker 1: don't even have any Jewish. The Delta, the airlines don't
Speaker 1: have any jurisdiction over the pilots.
Speaker 3: Well they can fire them, yeah, but they got you
Speaker 3: they have. I think there are the pilots unionized because
Speaker 3: I know that the employees, like Delta employees are not unionized.
Speaker 3: People like me lost and are working to try to
Speaker 3: get them union.
Speaker 1: When we have a situation, they pretty much said there's
Speaker 1: nothing that we can do to the point will win
Speaker 1: the pot.
Speaker 3: Right because the fact the legislation is that the pilot
Speaker 3: is in charge on the plane. I mean it's it's
Speaker 3: it's very technical and that's the type of stuff. It's like, damn,
Speaker 3: we talk so much about who's sleeping with who who's
Speaker 3: and that type of stuff. Will be knowing. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to get myself to.
Speaker 1: Learn you will. That brings me to my music segment.
Speaker 1: I just had one at first, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: introduce my song into this because of what we were
Speaker 1: just talking about. You know, we talking about painkillers, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about voting. We're talking about all these things.
Speaker 1: And you know this new remixed song that I have
Speaker 1: out right now to Jay Z's and it's the twenty
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of the song reasonable Doubt and I mean
Speaker 1: of President Yet Presidents twenty seven, okay, And it's the
Speaker 1: twenty fifth anniversary of the song their Presidents. And when
Speaker 1: I was listening to the song, it's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite songs that Jay ever made. And then I was
Speaker 1: just talking thinking about presidents and he was like, I'm
Speaker 1: all for presidents to represent me, and I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the selection. I'm thinking about all of this. You know,
Speaker 1: we got guys that we got Trump just talking crazy,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, none of these people actually represent me,
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing that they do or say that represents
Speaker 1: me as a black man in America. So I remixed
Speaker 1: it under that preference, and I talked about a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. And so I want you to listen
Speaker 1: to that song. It's my songs their President's remix called
Speaker 1: none of These Presidents Don't Represent Me.
Speaker 2: And also the second.
Speaker 1: The second song is my twenty one savage man. I
Speaker 1: was listening to this album I was working out two
Speaker 1: years today and it's this song called letter Letter to
Speaker 1: My brother.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And.
Speaker 3: Is it really briant brother?
Speaker 1: B are you d d a letter to my brother?
Speaker 1: And he was just talking about the realities that go
Speaker 1: on his street life, you know, like how you just
Speaker 1: you're trying to make it out sometimes, he said, he
Speaker 1: said a line that was crazy. He said, I've got
Speaker 1: a good heart. It is just in the wrong place, right,
Speaker 1: he said, most of us just have good hearts within
Speaker 1: the wrong place and survive will be pray. You just
Speaker 1: trying to make it out, which he used to making
Speaker 1: out when he's just gonna cuff you like, And he
Speaker 1: was just talking about so many things that the average person,
Speaker 1: especially black men in our community, experiences, you know, and
Speaker 1: it was just like it was like, Wow, this is
Speaker 1: a song that had a lot of substance in it.
Speaker 1: So just want to highlight spot like that twenty one
Speaker 1: Savages letter to my brother. Go listen to that and
Speaker 1: my songs. None of these presidents don't represent me.
Speaker 3: It's still adult track, and I hope that people will
Speaker 3: listen to it because I feel it they don't represent me.
Speaker 3: I hate to say it because I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't want Donald Trump is my president. I really don't.
Speaker 3: And I don't give anybody the impression that.
Speaker 2: I'm for Donald Trump at all.
Speaker 3: But Joe Biden really disappointed me. Not and I'm not
Speaker 3: talking about the fact that I knew I wasn't going
Speaker 3: to agree with on his politics because we was definitely
Speaker 3: going to fight him. We knew that we were getting ready.
Speaker 3: But no, he disappointed me. He disappointed me with this
Speaker 3: Gods situation. Definitely, I'm disappointed. I had an expectation, not
Speaker 3: that he would not be assigned this as he proclaims,
Speaker 3: but I had an expectation that when the people would
Speaker 3: that as the people rise up the way that we have,
Speaker 3: that he would have he would have I had. I
Speaker 3: had an expectation that as the people have really you know,
Speaker 3: the way that people are rising up, I had an
Speaker 3: expectation that he would step back and say I have
Speaker 3: to I cannot. I'm not even saying that he actually
Speaker 3: feels it or loves Palestinians, or that he was doing
Speaker 3: it because I believe he was gonna do the right things.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that I thought that he would say I
Speaker 3: can't even do this, like he keeps saying. They keep
Speaker 3: saying Trump is a threat, and then yet you acting
Speaker 3: like Trump. So I didn't. I didn't. That for me,
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed in that. I thought they were more That's
Speaker 3: what I was gonna say. That's it. I got it, Mice,
Speaker 3: I got it. I thought that they were going to
Speaker 3: be more politically astute than they have been.
Speaker 1: I didn't spend nothing, anything, nothing. But let's get into it.
Speaker 1: I would guess.
Speaker 3: I guess in our last few shows. I don't know
Speaker 3: if we even noticed it, but we've been talking about
Speaker 3: health a lot. I realize, especially with all this extra weight,
Speaker 3: that a lot of people act like they don't know.
Speaker 3: But I have a few friends, including my dear friend Peaches,
Speaker 3: that does not let me forget because she will send
Speaker 3: me a picture of myself out somewhere in a minute
Speaker 3: and be like you see this circling the fat in
Speaker 3: my cheeks, my neck, and it's okay because do we
Speaker 3: do that for one another. It's not like she's trying
Speaker 3: to like disrespect me or anything or shame me, but
Speaker 3: she knows what I want to look like. And I
Speaker 3: realized that I didn't have to be in the situation
Speaker 3: that I'm in the backfat this, and that all of
Speaker 3: these things happened to me because I thought that I
Speaker 3: could just steal. I thought I was still thirty. I
Speaker 3: don't know what I thought, but it's not. It isn't
Speaker 3: so I'll yes. And what I realized is working out
Speaker 3: by itself is not enough, Like you do have to
Speaker 3: actually take care of your inside. I never knew this
Speaker 3: whole theory of gut health. I never heard that before
Speaker 3: in my life. I knew your stomach, but then when
Speaker 3: I hear people talking about how much is happening in
Speaker 3: your gut, I'm like, wow, there's so many concepts that
Speaker 3: I can tell you right now. My family members that
Speaker 3: live in Alabama, North Carolina, no wherever, we talk about
Speaker 3: no gut health like at all. We did these things.
Speaker 3: It was can you try that good piece of pork
Speaker 3: chop and tear it up. Now. They don't live like
Speaker 3: that anymore because so many people have died from art
Speaker 3: disease and whatever, and over time people have become introduced
Speaker 3: to these things. But that wasn't the thing we were
Speaker 3: talking about today though. Today we get an opportunity to
Speaker 3: talk to doctor Robert Singleton, the second, who is an
Speaker 3: anesthesiology physician, and he also is very big on the
Speaker 3: internet talking about health. And you know, I don't know
Speaker 3: if enough of us, Like I was talking to somewhere
Speaker 3: recently and they were like, oh, certain things never show
Speaker 3: up on my page. It's also what you follow like
Speaker 3: and what you're interested in. And when I came across
Speaker 3: the algorithm, when I came across doctor Singleton, obviously we
Speaker 3: were introduced to him by LaToya Bond and our team
Speaker 3: and they were like, Hey, you got to check this
Speaker 3: guy out. It's some real robust discussion and rich discussion
Speaker 3: going on on his social media about health in general.
Speaker 3: And I'm grateful that he's taking some time today, Scrubs
Speaker 3: and all to come on and be a guest on
Speaker 3: TAMI to talk about our health and help us get
Speaker 3: straight on like what we pose to be doing to
Speaker 3: get health in our community.
Speaker 1: How you doing, doctor, and how you doing today?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, great, glad to be here, and I'm
Speaker 4: glad that we're talking about health because it's so important.
Speaker 4: Like you said, there's so many different health conditions that
Speaker 4: affect us as black people disproportionately, and so it's important
Speaker 4: that we have conversations like this to help ourselves, to
Speaker 4: help our communities.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Let me.
Speaker 3: Let me give a few points about how legendary you are.
Speaker 3: You are a board certified and caesiologists in Chicago. You
Speaker 3: went to Howard University. We have Howard University nutcases that
Speaker 3: follow us that they don't pull, they do not play
Speaker 3: about the hu you know. Okay, but you are a
Speaker 3: medical school grad from Howard and then also the ambassador
Speaker 3: for the Anesthesia Patient Safety Foundation. This is a very
Speaker 3: very serious topic for me, and I'll tell you why
Speaker 3: in the second and since completing your anestesiology training in
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, you've been committed to serving as an advocate
Speaker 3: for patients and their families, practicing evidence based medicine and
Speaker 3: insurance patience safety. And I'll tell you why this topic
Speaker 3: is so sensitive for me around anestesiology. My mother in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. Prior to twenty twenty March of twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: she had been told she has an issue with her
Speaker 3: sophia gets where it closes and she has to have
Speaker 3: it stretched, maybe every years or so. So this is
Speaker 3: something that we believe, well, we pretty much know that.
Speaker 3: It became her new reality after working at near right
Speaker 3: next door to the World Trade Center during nine eleven.
Speaker 3: So my mom, you know, she was there and the
Speaker 3: fumes and whatnot, and then her esophagus changed as a
Speaker 3: result of the pollution that so many people down there
Speaker 3: faced and what have you. She lived, thank god, but
Speaker 3: she did start to struggle with this thing.
Speaker 5: The last time that she.
Speaker 3: Was getting before this twenty twenty incident, the last time
Speaker 3: she was getting her esophagus stretched, the doctor told her
Speaker 3: that they did not like the way that she responded
Speaker 3: to the anesthesia. They said that when it was time
Speaker 3: for her to wake up, she was having a major difficulty.
Speaker 3: They did not like the way she rebounded and they
Speaker 3: felt uncomfortable about it. However, with my mother, her situation
Speaker 3: is either you get the stretching or go into complete
Speaker 3: liquid diet, and even then she can choke and die.
Speaker 5: So she doesn't.
Speaker 3: Have a lot of options, right, So they did the
Speaker 3: surgery in March of twenty twenty, and sure enough, my
Speaker 3: mother had a stroke and lost the ability on her
Speaker 3: left side.
Speaker 5: My mother was a dance.
Speaker 3: Instructor for a number of dance classes in her community.
Speaker 5: You cannot be her in my line on the dances.
Speaker 1: You got vible videos.
Speaker 3: And every eighty million people watching her videos of her
Speaker 3: line dance instructing and all of that. And now she's
Speaker 3: in a wheelchair. She moves around a lot better, you know,
Speaker 3: over to time things have gotten better, but she does
Speaker 3: not have the ability to do much with her left
Speaker 3: side and she needs twenty four hour care. So anesthesia
Speaker 3: is a big topic of a place of pain for
Speaker 3: us when we even start talking about it, And ironically
Speaker 3: it is coming up on the Timeless. She's beginning to
Speaker 3: choke again because in twenty twenty, once they did get
Speaker 3: through the surgery, now she's starting to have the same
Speaker 3: issues again and here were people having to try to
Speaker 3: figure out what to do. So just for the personal reference,
Speaker 3: this topic is really you know you and what you
Speaker 3: do is very sensitive to me. But again, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for joining us, and we just want to hear.
Speaker 3: I'm sure how you got into this in the first place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I've always wanted to be a doctor. I
Speaker 4: just didn't know what type. I really liked surgery, but
Speaker 4: anesthesia is one of those fields that doesn't get a
Speaker 4: lot of exposure or it's not as known as the
Speaker 4: other fields. Everybody knows about pediatricians and cardiologists, but anesthesia
Speaker 4: is a really behind the scenes type of medicine and
Speaker 4: for most of the time you don't really you know,
Speaker 4: see or hear much about anesthesia because for most of
Speaker 4: the procedures that we do, everything goes smoothly. But we
Speaker 4: do have those instances where there are emergencies, where there
Speaker 4: are traumas, where there are you know, incidences of cardiovascular collapse,
Speaker 4: difficulty breathing, or we have to step in, and those
Speaker 4: are very critical.
Speaker 6: Moments where every moment matters.
Speaker 4: We saw that a lot with COVID and just even today,
Speaker 4: you know, it's essential that patients have anesthesia doctors to
Speaker 4: make sure that their procedures are safe, and so I
Speaker 4: gravitated towards anesthesia. I've been doing this practicing independently since
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6: Absolutely love it.
Speaker 4: I can't see myself I could not see myself doing
Speaker 4: any other any other job.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I just I would like to know, like
Speaker 1: being an anesthesiologist, being in the field of medicine, what
Speaker 1: do you think are the biggest things that affect black
Speaker 1: people that you can think of?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have, like I said earlier, a lot
Speaker 4: of unique diseases and a lot of issues that affect
Speaker 4: us disproportionately. One big one and today's the last day
Speaker 4: of heart health minds, But one big one is as
Speaker 4: far as cardiovascular disease, our people are between thirty and
Speaker 4: fifty four percent more likely to die of a cardiovascular
Speaker 4: disease compared to our non Hispanic white counterparts. We die
Speaker 4: of heart attacks more, we have higher rates of obesity,
Speaker 4: higher rates of diabetes, and there's a lot of different
Speaker 4: reasons for that. But it's important that we have conversations
Speaker 4: like this, we spread reliable health information and take some
Speaker 4: steps to reverse that.
Speaker 3: Tell me the connection, because you know, we can dispel
Speaker 3: the myth. Right now, you're anestesiologists. People are like you
Speaker 3: just put the needle in on and knock me out,
Speaker 3: Like what do what is your role or how do
Speaker 3: you even know about all these other medical things because
Speaker 3: people would think that that's not your area.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's a good question.
Speaker 4: You know, we as anesthesia doctors are periodicative physicians, and
Speaker 4: so whenever a patient is before me, I have to
Speaker 4: make sure that they're optimized respiratory wise, cardiovascular wise, that
Speaker 4: all their organ systems are ready to undergo the stress
Speaker 4: of surgery and anesthesia. And so I have to I
Speaker 4: have to manage diabetes. I have to tailor each anesthetic
Speaker 4: to each patient because it is not a one size
Speaker 4: fits all thing. I desire and tailor my anesthetic to
Speaker 4: each patient's need. And the biggest thing, you know, if
Speaker 4: there's there's no surgery without anesthesia, and so we it's
Speaker 4: essential that we're there to make sure that patients are
Speaker 4: are still, that they don't have pain, and they can
Speaker 4: go through having a surgical procedure.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So I asked you about, you know, what
Speaker 1: other things that affect us? What do you think causes
Speaker 1: those things? It is our personal lifestyle choices. Is it
Speaker 1: that we're forced to eat certain foods? And what do
Speaker 1: you think are the biggest things that causes those situations
Speaker 1: that we have?
Speaker 4: You know, that's it's it's multifactorial there's a lot of
Speaker 4: different things. Uh. Some of it is cultural, you know,
Speaker 4: the kind of foods that we gravitate towards as a culture.
Speaker 4: A lot of us don't have health clubs and our
Speaker 4: neighborhood we don't have neighborhoods that are safe enough, safe
Speaker 4: enough for us to go on walks and jogs.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Many of our people living uh, food deserts where you
Speaker 4: don't have access to whole foods or you know, organic
Speaker 4: healthy produce that's at a reasonable price. And so there's
Speaker 4: things that you know, within our society are keeping us
Speaker 4: from being healthy and also just lack of information that's
Speaker 4: keeping us from changing our habits in the way that
Speaker 4: we live.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's environmental racism, is what we call it. And
Speaker 3: you know, and I mean and food desert's a real thing.
Speaker 3: When we first arrived in Louisville, Kentucky, where we were
Speaker 3: fighting for Breonna Taylor, we lived there for three months.
Speaker 3: During that time, we learned how the people were suffering.
Speaker 3: Like one supermarket in the entire area where all these
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people lived, one supermarket did not
Speaker 3: I went in there one time. The fruit was terrible.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even a good supermarket, right, and so we
Speaker 3: found out that we had to, you know, start bringing
Speaker 3: fresh produce just to deliver to the community to even
Speaker 3: have a conversation. And it's so important for people to
Speaker 3: understand that between our activism, your work as a doctor,
Speaker 3: it all connects, because you can't even have a conversation
Speaker 3: with somebody about fighting for Breonna Taylor while they're hungry.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, hey, I hear you terrible. What
Speaker 3: happened to that system? I'm hungry, but I'm hungry and
Speaker 3: maybe after you feed me then I can meet you
Speaker 3: on the battlefield. So I hear you, you know, talking
Speaker 3: about Well, first of all, tell us the conditions. You said,
Speaker 3: it's Heart health Month, and I know that applies to
Speaker 3: all of us as black people and other races. But
Speaker 3: what would you say at the top two issues? Maybe
Speaker 3: there's more for men and women that are avoidable, like
Speaker 3: things that you know, if we just don't do this,
Speaker 3: more than likely we will not have these issues.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so's there's three major issues. I mean, like you said,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of issues that we could talk about,
Speaker 4: including high cholesterol, and but the big three would have
Speaker 4: to be obesity, high blood pressure, and diabetes. Obesity, high
Speaker 4: blood pressure and diabetes. Those are three issues that affect
Speaker 4: us as black people more and for the most part,
Speaker 4: they are somewhat reversible, treatable, preventable if we are if
Speaker 4: we just do some common sense things to improve them
Speaker 4: and educate ourselves. The thing about high blood pressure is
Speaker 4: that it's a silent killer. You don't really you can't
Speaker 4: feel whenever you have high blood pressure, and a lot
Speaker 4: of people, especially if you're not getting your blood pressure
Speaker 4: checked regularly, if you're not going to the doctor regularly,
Speaker 4: you could have really really high blood pressure never know it.
Speaker 4: And the first time that you may be diagnosed with
Speaker 4: high blood pressure is whenever it's so high that now
Speaker 4: you have a stroke, Now you have a heart attack,
Speaker 4: now you have a brain anchuriskecond one diabetes. You know,
Speaker 4: a lot of us have diabetes that runs in our family.
Speaker 4: But actually diabetes is a condition that, uh, it's preventable,
Speaker 4: it's it's treatable if we have the right medications, UH,
Speaker 4: and having our diabetes under control can prevent cardiovascular disease.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 4: And then the last one, obesity, you know, we talked
Speaker 4: about it a little bit earlier. There's issues with access
Speaker 4: to adequate food and exercise. But obesity is one of
Speaker 4: the big things that you know, people don't realize the
Speaker 4: more weight you have that the more the harder your
Speaker 4: heart has to work to pump blood to all of
Speaker 4: those tissues throughout your body, and all that stress on
Speaker 4: the heart leads to elevated blood pressure and heart disease.
Speaker 4: And we call a lot of medical conditions comorbid conditions,
Speaker 4: and so usually if you have obesity, you also it's
Speaker 4: very likely you have a lot of other conditions like
Speaker 4: sleep avenue, like cholesterol, and also your your risk of
Speaker 4: cancer goes up with obesity. So I would say those
Speaker 4: three things are the big three whenever it comes to
Speaker 4: hard health that if we could target those, we could
Speaker 4: get our numbers down.
Speaker 1: So do you think, you know, being a graduate of
Speaker 1: an HBCU, that it makes you focus on these things more,
Speaker 1: gives you more you know, insight into what's actually going
Speaker 1: on with black people? Do you think it affects that?
Speaker 6: I definitely do.
Speaker 4: Only about five point seven percent of doctors in this
Speaker 4: country are black, and it's been proven through many different
Speaker 4: studies that our people do better whenever we have positions
Speaker 4: that look like us you're more likely to take your medications,
Speaker 4: You're more likely to get age appropriate screenings, to take
Speaker 4: health advice if you are a patient of a doctor
Speaker 4: who you can trust, who you feel has your best interest,
Speaker 4: to understands you know, the words that you're using, who
Speaker 4: understands your family, dynamic, your lifestyle. And so we need
Speaker 4: more black doctors, and we need our black doctors to
Speaker 4: be present in.
Speaker 6: The community and advocate.
Speaker 4: And that's that's one of the reasons why I became
Speaker 4: more vocal on social media, because you know, I said, man,
Speaker 4: I have this platform, I have this sphere of influence.
Speaker 4: Let me try to educate people and try to get
Speaker 4: people to come on board with some of these issues
Speaker 4: and learn about their heart health and ways of being
Speaker 4: more healthy.
Speaker 3: We talked about diabetes, and now I have people who
Speaker 3: have diabetes saying they can't get their medication because the
Speaker 3: folks that have obitity issues are using the medication to
Speaker 3: lose weight. And that's the old zembic piece. And we
Speaker 3: actually were talking about that a little earlier in this show.
Speaker 3: So I want you to to to sort of speak
Speaker 3: to this ozific phenomenon. I've recently learned that people have
Speaker 3: actually been using it for this reason for a longer
Speaker 3: time than we are now exposed to. But it wasn't
Speaker 3: it's not it wasn't as popular. Social media didn't know,
Speaker 3: So that is one thing. But then also with this
Speaker 3: COVID nineteen environment and the dynamics of what we experience,
Speaker 3: where so many people were like, get your vitamins, your supplements,
Speaker 3: your c moss, your you know, all the things, the
Speaker 3: good stuff that a lot of time, the flax seeds,
Speaker 3: all the things that we were not necessarily using. Are
Speaker 3: you one of those that supports that because there are
Speaker 3: some doctors like that stuff is no good. It's you know,
Speaker 3: that's not gonna you need vaccines, vaccines, you know, drugs
Speaker 3: directly from the doctors. Do you think there's a balance,
Speaker 3: like can you speak to those two issues? Ozimpic and
Speaker 3: supplements en vitamins.
Speaker 4: So ozempic is a medication and a lot of diabetes
Speaker 4: medications oral hypoglycimic agents. They have always had an off
Speaker 4: label use of weight loss, a side effect of weight loss,
Speaker 4: and you know, if you notice a lot of these drugs,
Speaker 4: the drug commercials years ago, they mentioned that weight loss
Speaker 4: is a potential side effect. So we've known that off label,
Speaker 4: these drugs can be used for weight loss, but it's
Speaker 4: just gotten that approval that now it can be used
Speaker 4: specifically for weight loss, and it is a phenomenon. People
Speaker 4: are using ozimpic and other weight loss drug other diabetes drugs,
Speaker 4: you know, like crazy, and it is causing a problem
Speaker 4: for people who need it for diabetes don't have access
Speaker 4: to it. But as far as you know, is it
Speaker 4: good to take them or not just for weight loss?
Speaker 6: It really comes down to h or.
Speaker 4: I think the most important thing is to look at
Speaker 4: a person's overall health picture, which is why these drugs
Speaker 4: should be prescribed by a position. And so if you
Speaker 4: are somebody with severe heart disease with sleep happening with diabetes,
Speaker 4: a lot of times by losing weight, you know you can.
Speaker 4: Weight loss can cure diabetes, weight loss can cure high
Speaker 4: blood pressure, and so these drugs are important. Weight loss
Speaker 4: is important to prolonging your lifespan and making you healthier.
Speaker 4: So that's why it's important to have these medications prescribed
Speaker 4: by a position.
Speaker 3: But what you're mixing that with if you have thyroid
Speaker 3: disease or something like that and you're taking ozepic because
Speaker 3: you're trying to be cute.
Speaker 4: That you know, that's why the most important thing you
Speaker 4: have to have a position, and they're going to look
Speaker 4: at your total health picture, look at all the medical
Speaker 4: conditions that you have, and they'll be able to decide
Speaker 4: whether it's safe for you to take Ozmpic or not.
Speaker 4: There's some people because of their health conditions where it's
Speaker 4: not safe for them to take and they should explore
Speaker 4: other weight loss drugs or even surgery for weight loss.
Speaker 3: So oh, surgery for weight loss?
Speaker 1: What about the supplements and all those things? Did she mentioned?
Speaker 4: So I am not I am the biggest person who
Speaker 4: will say if you don't need medications, you know, it
Speaker 4: should not be the first line of treatment for anything. However,
Speaker 4: you know, with a lot of these supplements that are
Speaker 4: out there, the flax seed or sea moss, the problem
Speaker 4: with them is most of them are not regulated by
Speaker 4: the FDA, and so sometimes they'll put these claims on
Speaker 4: the bottle and it'll say, oh, this will cure this,
Speaker 4: this will help with this, But those claims have not
Speaker 4: been investigated or upheld by the Food and Drug Administration,
Speaker 4: Whereas the medications that we have a lot of times,
Speaker 4: millions of dollars have been spent to study them to
Speaker 4: make sure that they're safe. And for a lot of medications,
Speaker 4: we have extensive research comparing one drug to another. And
Speaker 4: so that is why a lot of physicians feel more
Speaker 4: comfortable prescribing medications than we do suggesting supplements.
Speaker 6: And so you know, we do have patients too on supplements.
Speaker 6: We just it's important that you tell your doctor that
Speaker 6: you are on those supplements.
Speaker 4: I have seen cases where patients end up in trouble
Speaker 4: because they're taking supplements but not telling their doctor, and
Speaker 4: it's interfering with their meda prescribed medications. And so if
Speaker 4: you are taking supplements, it's important to tell your doctor.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, because they can have high protein. That is
Speaker 3: a reaction. Why I see, I never I mean because
Speaker 3: I think the supplements. It's like, why do I have
Speaker 3: to tell anybody that I take supplements?
Speaker 1: But I guess I see, this is another form of
Speaker 1: kind of like medication. So you don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: just be contradicting medication. If they're prescribing you something, you
Speaker 1: want to let them know what it is that you're
Speaker 1: actually taking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what would be a reason why somebody would
Speaker 3: want to hide that they would take in a supplement
Speaker 3: because black people just we just know, don't tell everything
Speaker 3: to anybody, right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, if there's a lot of reasons, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's so much hiding. I think people just don't think
Speaker 4: it's important.
Speaker 6: You might not consider it, right, That's what I was say. Medication.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're taking, you know, some vitamins, you
Speaker 4: might not think, oh, I should tell my doctor I'm
Speaker 4: taking vitamin E or whatever or chen saying. But especially
Speaker 4: in the context of surgery, a lot of vitamins and
Speaker 4: supplements can increase your risk of bleeding. And so we
Speaker 4: need to know, and we specifically asked, but we need
Speaker 4: to know what are you taking both prescription wires, over
Speaker 4: the counter and selflement ours.
Speaker 3: Do you do anesthesia for classic surgeon classic surgeons?
Speaker 5: Are you in those rooms as well?
Speaker 4: Yes, So I've worked with a lot of plastic surgeons.
Speaker 4: MA may makeovers, uh, prest augmentation, all the fun stuff.
Speaker 5: That's why I needed my back.
Speaker 1: So you so you've become this internet phenomenon. Do you
Speaker 1: get any hate on the internet? Do people tell you
Speaker 1: to shut up, you don't know what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Or does it more love you know what.
Speaker 4: Most of it is love. I will say that most
Speaker 4: of it is love. There are some topics that are
Speaker 4: very controversial. The first topic that really got me on
Speaker 4: social media was COVID and man whenever, as soon as
Speaker 4: you mentioned COVID, as soon as you, you know, bring
Speaker 4: it up, you're going to get people who are going
Speaker 4: to be very h It's yeah, it's very polarizing. You know,
Speaker 4: are vaccines good?
Speaker 6: Are they bad?
Speaker 4: And so COVID is probably the one topic where I'll
Speaker 4: get the most hate, but overall it's mostly love.
Speaker 5: Let's close this out here.
Speaker 3: But I want to just frame this. We were talking
Speaker 3: about it earlier and now I want to bring you
Speaker 3: into this discussion. We were talking about this show Painkillers. Say,
Speaker 3: what is it a documentary?
Speaker 1: It's not. It's a show based on It's based on
Speaker 1: the true story, but it's not.
Speaker 3: Dope Sick is the same. Have you seen Have you
Speaker 3: seen either one of these?
Speaker 6: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: You said you should watch because you mentioned the Food
Speaker 3: and Drug Administration, And what I thought this is these
Speaker 3: are based on true stories. Both of these shows Hulu
Speaker 3: cut has but.
Speaker 1: It's based on the same It's based on the same family.
Speaker 1: It's based on a person who created I Cotting Right.
Speaker 3: So, as you're going through this film, in my mind,
Speaker 3: prior to turning it on, I thought the Food and
Speaker 3: Drug Administration was two three, four, five big buildings in Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. With hundreds of thousands of people wanting things
Speaker 3: and doing things. And you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 3: a major operation. And what we find out in these
Speaker 3: shows is that it actually is a few people at
Speaker 3: a desk on one floor in one building that's not
Speaker 3: even a building that's just for that in particular purpose
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm seeing chemists, I'm seeing like right, bog administration,
Speaker 3: I'm seeing major operation. And what we actually find out
Speaker 3: is that there are people who have guidelines in front
Speaker 3: of them, right, And I believe they're intelligent and you know,
Speaker 3: very knowledgeable, but they have guidelines in front of them.
Speaker 3: And so when your product comes up, they're basically checking boxes,
Speaker 3: looking at and making sure it matches up with whatever
Speaker 3: the new laws and you know, all of those things,
Speaker 3: and then they make determinations on whether or not you
Speaker 3: you know, pass now this opioid family, these people are
Speaker 3: this particular product of OxyContin.
Speaker 5: They denied them many many, many, many many.
Speaker 3: Times, because they wanted to take their product from it
Speaker 3: being near death, you know, and what is it palatable
Speaker 3: care right, They wanted to take it from that to
Speaker 3: being used for more things and being more accessible to people,
Speaker 3: and the FDA consistently denied, denied, denied, denied. Then in
Speaker 3: the movie, because I went to check to see if
Speaker 3: this is true, eventually there was a meeting, something happened
Speaker 3: with the man from the FDA, which happens in all industries.
Speaker 3: Next thing you know, it was approved, and then after
Speaker 3: a short period of time, the man quit his job
Speaker 3: at the FDA and went to go work for the company.
Speaker 3: So when you say, yeah, you really check it out,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: It's my mind, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because I would think that that's illegal somewhere. But then again,
Speaker 3: as the show goes on, if this show continues, you
Speaker 3: find out about how many other people have left, you know,
Speaker 3: they might have been working for this law firm over here,
Speaker 3: working for the government.
Speaker 5: And then they go into private practice. That's actually not illegal.
Speaker 3: Many times we go into elected positions and into public office,
Speaker 3: and you when your time is up there, you want
Speaker 3: to go to private practice in some of these areas,
Speaker 3: So it's actually not illegal but I want that makes
Speaker 3: me question and wonder when we start talking about the FDA,
Speaker 3: and I do want to look and see FBA on
Speaker 3: my label. But am I really trusting and believing that
Speaker 3: what they're saying is right because how deep is their love?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean it's it's so unfortunate that we
Speaker 4: even have to have this conversation. I think that, especially
Speaker 4: within the past four or five years, we've had this
Speaker 4: discussion more and more. But there's there's no branch of
Speaker 4: government that's immune from corruption. You know, there's corruption in
Speaker 4: all walks of life, unfortunately, and that's just another reason
Speaker 4: why it's important to have, you know, whenever you're making
Speaker 4: decisions about your health, why it's important to have a
Speaker 4: doctor who you trust to, has cultural competency, who can
Speaker 4: kind of help you, you know, navigate that tell you
Speaker 4: their own personal experience, you know, with those drugs, tell
Speaker 4: you about the patients that they have, and use their
Speaker 4: experience and expertise to help guide you and help you
Speaker 4: decide should I take this drug or that drug.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big takeaway, it really is.
Speaker 1: And it's called the Sacler the Seckler.
Speaker 3: Family, the Sackler family, right, okay.
Speaker 1: So well, basically, you know, we just want to say
Speaker 1: thank you for coming here. And I like the representation
Speaker 1: man seeing a black man, you know, being in medicine
Speaker 1: and being knowledgeable. It maybe to start inspiring. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of us in these spaces,
Speaker 1: and when you say it's only five percent of us
Speaker 1: in the space, that's crazy to me when we should
Speaker 1: be definitely present in spaces where where things affect us,
Speaker 1: you know, way worse than it affects everybody else. So
Speaker 1: we definitely need to be in there. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: you for your representation and the actual work that you're doing.
Speaker 1: You know, continue on being great black men. You are legendary.
Speaker 3: It's been all about legends, but the legends man legends,
Speaker 3: you certainly are one.
Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Thank you doctor Singleton. We appreciate you and joining us.
Speaker 3: I don't know, anyway, I was gonna say, maybe I
Speaker 3: shouldn't talk about it, but you know, it is something
Speaker 3: that actually happened to me, and it had it was
Speaker 3: actually pretty traumatizing. So you know, during the Women's March, obviously,
Speaker 3: the the the controversy that we faced was very very significant,
Speaker 3: and I was being called anti Semitic, which you know,
Speaker 3: people were saying, I hate Jewish people. I didn't even understand,
Speaker 3: Like I was so so not knowledgeable about certain things
Speaker 3: that we say, biases that we have, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: even know. I was so focused on addressing black people's
Speaker 3: issues that I never even taken the time to learn
Speaker 3: these things. And I had to learn by hell fire,
Speaker 3: basically because I was like what, Like I knew what
Speaker 3: anti Semitism meant, but it really wasn't a turn that
Speaker 3: was in my regular talking points every day to have
Speaker 3: those accusations against me. And it was very very harmful,
Speaker 3: you know. Of course we were going to school, was
Speaker 3: going places. My seeking engagement was getting canceled, you know,
Speaker 3: you know the story. Everybody who's listening, most people are
Speaker 3: aware of what I suffered and the the you know,
Speaker 3: because of those accusations against me. And so I had
Speaker 3: a doctor at the time, as she was a white
Speaker 3: woman who I never took the to figure out whether
Speaker 3: she was Jewish, but I eventually began to feel something
Speaker 3: from her, like as I continued to see her during
Speaker 3: this time, especially because the anxiety that I was experiencing
Speaker 3: was so severe that I was going back and forth
Speaker 3: meeting with her.
Speaker 1: She was real cool.
Speaker 3: We actually sit around and talk for a little while.
Speaker 3: After the appointment, she became very short, she wasn't really interested,
Speaker 3: and you could tell that her personality towards me changed.
Speaker 3: And so I eventually, obviously we're smart enough to know
Speaker 3: to stop immediately having her to be my doctor. And
Speaker 3: later on there was some things that was written in
Speaker 3: my personal file, things that, yes, I do understand when
Speaker 3: you're talking to your doctor, they're gonna write notes, but
Speaker 3: it was the way in which the notes were written
Speaker 3: I could tell. I could see the difference from where
Speaker 3: we started to where we ended up then.
Speaker 5: And there's some people who would say, well, why would
Speaker 5: you even.
Speaker 3: Make the assumption that just because she was possibly Oh
Speaker 3: and by the way, she was a white woman anyway,
Speaker 3: so regardless of whether she was actually Jewish or not,
Speaker 3: she was a white woman. And at that time, there
Speaker 3: was so much hate against us from all different types
Speaker 3: of people, especially white people. And then you add the
Speaker 3: layer of whether whether they knew it was true or not,
Speaker 3: just the mere fact that I was getting called this
Speaker 3: hateful leader and you know, I'm anti Semitic or whatever.
Speaker 3: It really scared me that someone had I was in
Speaker 3: the care of a person who could have really been
Speaker 3: hateful towards me because of what the media was saying.
Speaker 5: And you know, so therefore, I.
Speaker 3: Realized that I need to have my own people monitor
Speaker 3: and manage my health. I'd rather bet on my own
Speaker 3: people because at any given time, if you upset somebody,
Speaker 3: maybe from any community.
Speaker 5: Not saying black people also.
Speaker 3: But I, like I said, I'm pretty cool with black
Speaker 3: folks for the most part, for the most part, for
Speaker 3: the most part. But I realized that I need my
Speaker 3: care to be in the hands of people who look
Speaker 3: like me, you know, because you put in your hands
Speaker 3: and solar's life and you have no idea what they're behind,
Speaker 3: like what's going on back here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also that you know, there's there's shared experience,
Speaker 1: there's there's a shared experience of last life in general
Speaker 1: that people are able to identify with and connected, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't have any issues with people who don't
Speaker 1: feel the same way. It's just like all the like
Speaker 1: when people got mad when what's her name when she
Speaker 1: said I'm with any everybody black, Like people want to
Speaker 1: see you just want to see people from your coach
Speaker 1: you win, you know, you know, just based off misinformation, right,
Speaker 1: Like you're saying that you had a doctor that you're
Speaker 1: a cool with, that you you of confidence, and that
Speaker 1: you have to you know, loved her, and this was somebody.
Speaker 2: That you trusty.
Speaker 1: It was all these things and just based off something
Speaker 1: in the media, false information that people put out into
Speaker 1: the media. It changed the whole creaction and her perception
Speaker 1: of you. And I'm just and I just think we're
Speaker 1: at a time where people are just so lazy and
Speaker 1: I don't and I don't get it. People are so
Speaker 1: lazy that they take anything that's put in the media
Speaker 1: or social media at face value.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: They don't they don't do any research, they don't do
Speaker 1: any due diligence, They don't consider the individual. There are
Speaker 1: people that we know every day of our lives that
Speaker 1: will look at something that's put on social media and
Speaker 1: take it at face value. Sure, there are things should
Speaker 1: you should you pay attention, right, Like Denzel said, one
Speaker 1: of the realist things, he said, if you don't listen
Speaker 1: to it and to the media. If you said, if
Speaker 1: you don't listen to the media, then you're uninformed. But
Speaker 1: if you do listen to it? Do you're missing for
Speaker 1: literally just talking about you know something that happened with
Speaker 1: Tory Lanez and his lawyer putting out this new appeal
Speaker 1: and code. But about over two or three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: there was a guy who I'm not even gonna say
Speaker 1: his name because he's one of the biggest misinformation people
Speaker 1: in the world, that was saying that there was a
Speaker 1: video tape that was supposed to come out, and the
Speaker 1: video tape was from Asian woman and she had taped
Speaker 1: the whole situation and she had saw it and she
Speaker 1: was following them from the whole thing, and it was
Speaker 1: gonna come up in the appial And this is a lie, right,
Speaker 1: He called out people threatening people, all types of stuff,
Speaker 1: and this was this was a complete lie. There was
Speaker 1: no basis for it. But there were so many people
Speaker 1: online that was coming at people saying, look this and
Speaker 1: that and this information and it's just so dangerous and
Speaker 1: it's so terrible to me. And I just want people
Speaker 1: to just start using common sets, like I want us
Speaker 1: to start using common sens. The internet and media and
Speaker 1: social media cannot completely control your mind to where you
Speaker 1: don't even use your own common sense. And you don't
Speaker 1: do any type of due diligence to even research to
Speaker 1: see is this remotely truth? Is there? Is there five
Speaker 1: or six different because if if there's a level of
Speaker 1: remote trueness to it, then you might be able to
Speaker 1: find it on five or six or seven different respectable places.
Speaker 3: It's no such thing. I don't agree with you.
Speaker 1: You don't know. So what do you think?
Speaker 3: Because I don't agree, I agree with you that misinformation
Speaker 3: is a problem. I think people when they turn their
Speaker 3: phone on, unless they really pretty much trust who they're
Speaker 3: talking to. That's like on this show, and there are
Speaker 3: many other shows big by Teszling. You think about you
Speaker 3: know a number of people you listen to Aman the Seals,
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Native Pod with Angela Rode, Tiffany
Speaker 3: Cross and what's our brother's name? Andrew Gillum, And there's
Speaker 3: Joy and Reid. There's so many and even Joy. While
Speaker 3: she is on her show attempting to be the most
Speaker 3: authentic and having the most integrity possible, she's still on
Speaker 3: a network that if you tlip to the net show
Speaker 3: or to a few others, they lie like him, right,
Speaker 3: And so I think knowing your person that you're getting
Speaker 3: information from and kind of you haven't really found them
Speaker 3: to be a person that lacks integrity, for you know,
Speaker 3: or you forget about integrity, because that's a whole nother
Speaker 3: let me take that away. If you haven't found them
Speaker 3: to be someone that misinforms or misreports information, then you
Speaker 3: could kind of listen to them and whatever. But there's
Speaker 3: not that many credible places.
Speaker 1: We know.
Speaker 3: The New York Times was exposed for having a writer
Speaker 3: writing about issues or things that happen on October seventh.
Speaker 5: To Israeli's that was not true because if you go
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: And google rapes or you google children being beheaded. Even
Speaker 3: though not only has the American government had to say
Speaker 3: after President Biden said he saw something that he did
Speaker 3: not see now, they tried to say he didn't mean
Speaker 3: it that way. Whatever, he still said he saw pictures
Speaker 3: of babies beheaded, And then the Israeli governments had to say,
Speaker 3: you know what, actually there's no evidence of such, right
Speaker 3: so we know that, we know that. But if you
Speaker 3: go right now when you google, it's the shit still
Speaker 3: all over the place. People still say black folks, brown folks,
Speaker 3: other people. They still saying it in their talking points,
Speaker 3: So I don't know that there are many credible places.
Speaker 3: The way I look at it is when I turn
Speaker 3: my phone on and I read it's entertainment, that's what.
Speaker 3: Unless it's somebody who I truly believe and trust it's entertainment,
Speaker 3: lives are being destroyed.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't entertain at the expensive somebody.
Speaker 3: Else's well, but there's no accountability mechanism unless you sue
Speaker 3: people you know, or whatever, and it's very expensive to
Speaker 3: go to court and go through all of that. And
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a person who has many friends that
Speaker 3: are lawyers, and they all are prepared at any time
Speaker 3: to go to that for me and for you, right.
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of people that don't have that,
Speaker 3: some people that even have the lawyers. And by the
Speaker 3: time you get to a certain level, lawyers are bleeding
Speaker 3: you dry right hourly, they're bleeding you drop. So not
Speaker 3: everybody has the ability to go out there. And the
Speaker 3: other thing is, if one a little bit of what
Speaker 3: this person is saying is true about you, then how
Speaker 3: do you go and fight the rest of it? It
Speaker 3: becomes so murky.
Speaker 5: So what I'm saying about entertainment is that I don't
Speaker 5: look at this thing and say, unless I'm you know again,
Speaker 5: unless it's somebody I trust, unless it's a video of
Speaker 5: something that's really moving to me, or unless I have
Speaker 5: the opportunity to speak to the lawyers, the family.
Speaker 3: The people involved. I look at it and I just
Speaker 3: keep scrolling and see it. Okay, you put it in
Speaker 3: the bank, you heard it. You might hear it again.
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