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Speaker 1: What's on your heart today? How you feeling? What's your mood? Like?

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Speaker 4: My mood is grateful. I'm grateful mood, just thankful everything

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Speaker 4: and just continue to believe that's my mood, always just

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Speaker 4: think about evenless possibilities because everything that they say you

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Speaker 4: example and show like, nah, you could do you could

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Speaker 4: do it, If I could do it, you could do it.

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Speaker 1: Right, do you believe in second chances? Like? Do you

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Speaker 1: believe in second chances?

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Speaker 4: I am a second chance?

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Speaker 1: For sure? For sure?

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Speaker 7: From the beginning, why you're a second chance Because a

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Speaker 7: lot of people that might not be familiar with your

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Speaker 4: Okay, so even before prison.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go back to the beginning when Fee was

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Speaker 7: what caused you to need that second chance?

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Speaker 4: Okay. I grew up in a two pairent home. Dad

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Speaker 4: Like we I was really literally raised like the Cosmics.

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Speaker 4: And then too, what I realized, Jay, was when your

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Speaker 4: I ended up serving fourteen years. Originally I was sentenced

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Speaker 6: COVID, how did you keep from like going back to

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Speaker 4: Thinking about every time somebody telling me when I could

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Speaker 4: I rehabilitated me. Yeah, I rehabilitated me. And then not

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Speaker 6: This some real shit because back in the day it

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Speaker 4: Man, let me tell you something. I am that chick.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I hate this saying. I always I hate this saying.

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Speaker 4: They just gonna say, show, show a picture of you.

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Speaker 4: So my boyfriend wasn't the only one that told on me.

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Speaker 4: Did you forgive them or what? Yeah? Yeah, yeah forget

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Speaker 4: It took some time. It took some time doing prison.

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Speaker 4: because I haven't always I'm not gonna say that I was.

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Speaker 4: I've never been a grinny chick. Right, No, no dude

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Speaker 4: I don't want your money. You forgave him but you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't want your dirty taint of money.

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Speaker 4: You can't buy me. You can't buy back them fourteen

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Speaker 2: I probably got that money.

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Speaker 6: That's what my cousin money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what my cousin said to me, Like, man,

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Speaker 2: You feel like that she would have janinked your whole plate.

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Speaker 7: You would have went and understood on the business right.

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Speaker 4: I mean I sold my soul once again for a dollar.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm cool. I'm cool. I rather I rather struggle

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Speaker 4: Man, when I tell you, I could look myself in

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Speaker 4: I never did nobody wrong. I ain't rated nobody out,

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Speaker 2: Gonna come and it feel better though, because you're at peace, right, way?

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Speaker 3: Was going on in the free world.

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Speaker 4: It was hard in the beginning. It was hard. So

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Speaker 4: So when I started messing with the dude was married

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Speaker 6: Suld knew he would have You should have knew he

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Speaker 4: He what? My bad beca why are you leave it

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, not just like he's just some bullshit,

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Speaker 2: Just for another woman.

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Speaker 4: Not just another woman.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Okay, a special one.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm saying, but but he was married, right if

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Speaker 1: Am I right?

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Speaker 4: Wrong?

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Speaker 6: There's no reason now if this woman did something wrong

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Speaker 4: Thank you know how to go when it get good

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Speaker 2: Stop? But I ain't gonna leave my wife. And no bitch,

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Speaker 4: Right? Where's the job? Where's the job.

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Speaker 1: Paying five?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't blocking the home.

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Speaker 4: But I mean I get what you said. You felt like,

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Speaker 4: you know, there wasn't no lordy, but I don't know

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, but your dude was actually like away from

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Speaker 7: we just had a conversation about this, right, So we

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Speaker 3: But I felt like.

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Speaker 7: If I'm okay, let's say you're my nigga, If you're

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna, Yeah, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: You were on the street.

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Speaker 7: But you know, it was a discussion like Okay, well

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Speaker 3: So what made you do it? What made you like?

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Speaker 4: Being greedy man down there? Didn't want my face scene

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Speaker 4: But I seen that it was I'm like, oh, this

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Speaker 4: I could get him for seventeen. Oh. So what I

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Speaker 4: And it just it just backfired on me. But let

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Speaker 4: He stayed down the whole fourteen years. He did not

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Speaker 4: into my big he did not. He kept like fighting

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Speaker 4: just even after I did all that, even if after

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Speaker 4: He has a girlfriend, he has a little boy, but

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Speaker 3: My That's rare. That's rare.

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Speaker 4: That's rare and too he Okay, so you know when

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Speaker 3: Nigga right straight up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know I just I mean, yeah, dude

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Speaker 3: Did that kind of like after what you've.

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Speaker 7: Been through for him to stay down with you like that,

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Speaker 7: did that kind of like help restore your faith in humanity.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I really lost my faith in humanity.

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Speaker 4: I told myself that I wasn't a good judge of people.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: That discernment when your spirit tell you something, it needs

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Speaker 7: But you can't blame yourself for that though all the time,

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Speaker 3: To get past the discernment detectors.

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Speaker 2: Nah, you know, you know, but you might not.

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Speaker 6: You know, you overlook something, you gonna overlook something. You know,

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Speaker 4: Yes he did. That's like the one of the other

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Speaker 1: Call him out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't care. We were sitting at the

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Speaker 6: He knew that he don't want to say, boy, I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, And you know, but he told and

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Speaker 3: That's what man, that's yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 3: That's what happens when you don't do the right thing.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like more people need to realize, like,

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Speaker 4: Because it's not that I'm not saying that it's an

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Speaker 4: Everything that you need is already within you. It's just

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Speaker 4: So my mind said, how you was asking what was

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Speaker 4: my son graduated or when he made it to the

440
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: championship they played in the dome and I had to

441
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 4: see it on TV. Times like that. But I still

442
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: tell myself, Shay, a better day is coming, it's coming

443
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 4: to prison. Door's gonna open. And I plan and set

444
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: out and did everything that I said I was gonna do.

445
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 4: When I got ready to get here and my feet

446
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: touched the ground, I was prepared because I believed that

447
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 4: I was coming home.

448
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

449
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 4: People used to be like, oh, you're crazy, Oh, she's crazy.

450
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 4: Oh that's the girl that says she's going home. Because

451
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 4: every year they'd be like, oh, what's your dad. I'll

452
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 4: be like this year, I'm going home this year, and

453
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 4: that year come and I still be there. They I

454
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 4: thought you was going home. I am, I'm going home

455
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: this year, you know, and it's you know, people just

456
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 4: thought I was crazy. But delusion, right. My tagline is

457
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 4: it's always delusion until they see it happen. So so

458
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 4: part of being delusion is being a leader, being okay

459
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 4: to be by you, to that different, to be over here,

460
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 4: to be over there with scream at and we over

461
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 4: here and we laughing and scream scream. Got to be

462
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 4: okay with that. I'm okay with people calling me delusion

463
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 4: because I know what's gonna happen in the end where

464
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: you see the end result. You know what I'm saying.

465
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 4: I knew you could do it. Oh no, you didn't know.

466
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 4: You didn't. Now you want to come around because you see.

467
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 4: But I'm okay. I'm okay with playing by myself. I'm

468
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 4: okay with being the outsider. I'm okay with looking crazy

469
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: to I'm okay with you because I know the table's

470
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: one turn right, yeah, all anything else.

471
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 5: Hey, we saw you was recently you pulled up to

472
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 5: banks on link linking US, linking us, linking us right. So,

473
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 5: how how do you feel about you know, uh, the

474
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 5: jail system, feelings, trying to get back on track, living

475
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 5: their life as it pertains the politics? You know what

476
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 5: I'm saying, because I think that's one of the things

477
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 5: that I was there to discuss, like how do you

478
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 5: feel about it?

479
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: And how could we maybe make that better?

480
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 4: For one After that night, I don't even tell you

481
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 4: I'm gonna end up running. I'm gonna really get involved

482
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: in politicians. I just gotta figure out, you know, with

483
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: me having a record, do I have to have a part?

484
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: I just gotta figure out that aspect. There has to

485
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 4: be people in place.

486
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: Who actually care.

487
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 4: You know, people on the outside looking in feel like

488
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: everybody that's in prison deserved to be there and they

489
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 4: don't deserve a second chance. But it's not until you

490
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: go or one of your family members go and it's

491
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 4: up close and personal for you. There's a lot of

492
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: broken parts of the criminal justice system, not only the time,

493
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: but even down to the prison system and how it's rent.

494
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying, how mostly do prisoners take

495
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: over and run the prison? The sexual assaults, the way

496
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: that like when I first came in, they allowed men

497
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: to pat us down. When I first came to prison.

498
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 4: It ended up changing when they created like what's called Priya,

499
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 4: it ended up changing. But just stuff like that, you

500
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And I'm not a person that's

501
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: against gay people or anything like that, but I feel

502
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 4: like a known gay woman should not be able to

503
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: strip search me. She liked what I got, Why is

504
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 4: she able to strip search me? Yeah, you know, especially

505
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: when it's like you're known, you're you're married to a woman,

506
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: and you're masculine. You're masculine, you know what I mean.

507
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: Yet that's not why I had to fight for that.

508
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: In prison, they called me a marty, but I did

509
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: not mind. It was many times that I was put

510
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 4: in the whole, but I felt like when I was

511
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: in that place, I had to stand up even if

512
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: nobody else was gonna be I'll bet a sacrificial land.

513
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: And that's how I feel now about especially that night,

514
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: after being there in city Hall and after these laws

515
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 4: that I'm paying attention that are passing, and it has

516
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 4: to be people in place. We have to we have

517
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: to start to break the system down piece by piece

518
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 4: by piece, because no one wants to see it the

519
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: go away because it's for profit, you know what I mean.

520
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: They don't want to see it to go away. As

521
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: much as Americas say that they want to stop mass incarceration,

522
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: they are doing absolutely nothing to stop it. The Body

523
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 4: and Administration act like they was going to do so

524
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 4: much for people who's in prison for marijuana. Marijuana is legal.

525
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 4: Why y'all still allowing people to be in prison with

526
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 4: life sentences. But these are the things that people really

527
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: don't know if it does not directly affection.

528
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think a lot of a lot of

529
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 7: a lot of things that people don't understand, especially when

530
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 7: it comes to prisons outside the federal level. On the

531
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 7: state level, is that most of the prist most of

532
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 7: the prisons are privatized, and with the private prisons, private

533
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 7: prisons as opposed to state run prisons, basically get to

534
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 7: do whatever the fuck they want to do, and they

535
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 7: don't have a system of checks and balances, They don't

536
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 7: have anybody that they have to enter to. But they're bored,

537
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 7: which are people that are benefiting from the people being incarcerated.

538
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: So it's like.

539
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 7: It's not gonna benefit anybody for it to be a

540
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 7: less amount of people locked up except for the people

541
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 7: that are locked up.

542
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: Everybody else is profiting from it.

543
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 4: They're profiting from it. And how you say it's not governed,

544
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of sexual assaults that go on

545
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 4: women in state prison, federal prison. They make it seem

546
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: like it's sexual assault. But girls in federal prison don't

547
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: get rape. Girls in federal prison go because that's what

548
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 4: they choose to do. But it's still considered rape because

549
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: you're an officer and we're under you, and you don't

550
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 4: supposed to you know, you don't. Yeah, you're supposed to

551
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: sleep with them. But it's just that prison, y'all is

552
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: just like a different world. Yeah what I'm saying, it's

553
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: a world within itself is what I called. And when

554
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: I first got to prison, I did not understand the

555
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 4: layer of the land. I really couldn't. I really couldn't

556
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: even get with the layer of the land because I

557
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 4: had never been in no trouble. And once I begin

558
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 4: to learn it's just like how there's politics out here.

559
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 4: It's prison politics too. Yeah sure, yeah, sure, And you

560
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: just have to learn the lay of the land. But yeah,

561
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 4: the system does need to be broke down.

562
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 7: And then you also had a program that you started

563
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 7: called Felons Rock while you were in there, right.

564
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: I started it inside, wrote it out inside. Everything that

565
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: I'm doing now, it was birth from while I was inside.

566
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: But he had Felons Rock, and I want to that

567
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: was I did that because feelings have such a stigma,

568
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: and a lot of people are embarrassed that they've been

569
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: in trouble before and that they're failing me. I don't care,

570
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And I feel like once

571
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 4: again I have to be the voice for those who

572
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: have been in trouble to know like, that's not the

573
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: end all be all, that's just a chapter that you

574
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 4: went through. It's not your entire life. Life still goes on,

575
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: and America has to become more acceptable to those because

576
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, we're coming home one day,

577
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna be your neighbor. So you might as well

578
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: try to find programs and jobs and everything to help

579
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: people to reintegrate into society.

580
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Right, So what office you're going for.

581
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: I think I need to start just at counseling first

582
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 4: and then work my way up. But ultimately I wouldn't

583
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: mind being in the Senate.

584
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: How I go for we commit the feeling.

585
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 4: That's what I gotta. I gotta research it. I gotta

586
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: research it. But really, Bank, I'm believing that I'm gonna

587
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: end up getting a party, you know what I mean.

588
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: I believe I end up getting well. I just gotta

589
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: keep working. Just what this month? Was it? This month? Yeah?

590
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: I just received the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award and it

591
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: was for it's for Yeah, my name is forever the

592
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 4: same ways and grave with that one two one one

593
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: zero one seven. It's now engraved as Lifetime Achievement Award

594
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: from the President for my volunteer service that I do,

595
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: you know, with kids and going back into the prisons

596
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 4: and talking and everything. So I believe one day I

597
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: have a party. I get that party, and I'll be

598
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: able to get to send it and I probably could

599
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 4: who give the president? Yeah, well, okay, for state, the

600
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: governor can party, but when it's federal, the president has

601
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: the party. Okay, Yeah, I vote for you.

602
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: I want to help with campaign.

603
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: Because I want I can tell you run ship.

604
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: I want to smoke my blunt right now.

605
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: But you said you can make a change.

606
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: Side though your energy every ten dollars go ahead, bus.

607
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: That's he's a he's a like a dub.

608
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 6: Thursday said a lot of Stuffigga.

609
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 7: I really did not say, nigga, because I've been catching

610
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 7: myself when I've been saying stuff.

611
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: You at fifteen dollars zero.

612
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Zero, right, Yeah, you're doing good.

613
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: You're working freight.

614
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: I mean we can get it due to discount. I ain't.

615
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I ain't trimming about fifteen.

616
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 6: That's a good number, though I could do a hung

617
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 6: all over this ship, nigga, big fact. But I think

618
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 6: you really don't really just your whole earl, you know

619
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But we're gonna get back to the

620
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 6: to the B say how you feel.

621
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: About rats and just all around like rats.

622
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 7: Hold on, let means, let me let me put this

623
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 7: up so we can you're good, Yeah, let's talk about them.

624
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: I feel like, like, what did you just do that?

625
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: God saying? Don't want me say nothing to crazy. I

626
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: just I feel like.

627
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 6: One word because you can speak one word, one word,

628
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 6: one word about a.

629
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: Rat mm hm taking time?

630
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: Money?

631
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, one word about a rat sacrifice may sacrifice.

632
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: Yea one word about love.

633
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: One word about love. M hm. Pure has to be.

634
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to use the same sacrifice.

635
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: No, I say, love has to be pure, and it's work.

636
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: It's worth, especially with me coming back home and not

637
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: being with somebody like that for fourteen years. You know,

638
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: I mean not just on st but you know, it

639
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: just it takes some work. And and I'm kind of

640
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: overbearing too, you know, I could be overbearing that time.

641
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: And it's times that I can think that I'm an

642
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: dude and want to hop out of my place. You

643
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: get what I'm saying.

644
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 7: You gotta have a nigga that can balance that out

645
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 7: and that understands like there's no harm intended with the

646
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 7: overbearingness is just a part of you as a person,

647
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: and you're working on that part and.

648
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: It's a process.

649
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 7: But you know, you still gotta you know, tug and

650
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 7: pull and ship and stuff.

651
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Twenty five.

652
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Y'all jump, so round it up.

653
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 3: It ain't no pressure on this ship. It's called our

654
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: bad thousand.

655
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, A cuss word, I promise you I'll turn to

656
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 6: a different.

657
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: Word would be different.

658
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 6: But what I feel about love, I feel like like

659
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 6: you said is in relationships is different.

660
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Work?

661
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, because we are different like you just say overbearing

662
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: and shall tell you my wife is overbearn.

663
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: How long y'all been married, y'all been together? How long though?

664
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Hm saluted?

665
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: A soluted? You got no because already no bank like

666
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: you black? Yeah, yeah, you get what I'm saying. So

667
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: it takes it takes a certain certain amount of woman

668
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: to be able to deal with that sign but you

669
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: and to stay down you just no, no, no, no, no, just.

670
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 6: Some women just look somewhere like that's my old g

671
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 6: real ship, like a lot of ship.

672
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: That's that's ten more dollars, a lot of stuff that

673
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: I did.

674
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: And what's behind her? Not like her?

675
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Excellent?

676
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Just I use her mindset? Even done, boy, I knock

677
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: it off.

678
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: You got me mixed up?

679
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 4: That was being caught up.

680
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, not saying anything that I've

681
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 6: ever done.

682
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: I told her, Are you did? Oh that's big Yeah,

683
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to ask him when I see that's.

684
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Pick up.

685
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And anything you've rather done, you told on yourself.

686
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: This.

687
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: I ain't never just got give nobody a.

688
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: Chance to the black man. No, no, I ain't saying

689
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: no kids I'm.

690
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Just saying I ain't really you know, I mean, you're

691
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: gonna fielteen, you.

692
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: Know, I'm on some more real Yeah, men, not.

693
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 7: Puss is not a cuts We had fifty y'all ain't

694
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 7: got damn all right, bro.

695
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 4: Y'all walking on it hand.

696
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: Love is forgiving, yea to be to forgive.

697
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 6: You can't forgive, you just might well leave people a

698
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 6: man because things that like how women look at infidelity,

699
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 6: that is the worst thing ever.

700
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Men look at that mouth is the worst thing.

701
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: The Bible saying a nagging woman is like a dream

702
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 4: and foster that never stops.

703
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this.

704
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: We just we start, we just we just we reborn.

705
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: We rebirth os our relationship.

706
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: That's good. That's good.

707
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we newly so.

708
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: But I can say, though, you know, like all jokes aside,

709
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: I think it's dope the transition you made.

710
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah for sure.

711
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: Lest probably for my dog for that.

712
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: No, I mean yeah, I can imagine that. It's hard,

713
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 4: but you really came a long way, you know, and

714
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: it takes it takes discipline, and it takes being able

715
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 4: to want to be the change too. So that's that's

716
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: that's big.

717
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: I get inspired by people like you, you know, because

718
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 6: it's possible. Like even my peers like Gucci Mane or

719
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: somebody like that. Like I get inspired by that. Oh,

720
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: it can happen, you know what I'm saying. We didn't

721
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 6: see that happen. You're gonna go out bad right.

722
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: Right, but it can happen.

723
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: You know. At first it was just.

724
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

725
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 4: God good, he's super good. Yeah, he's super goods a

726
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: struggle everything.

727
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: I think.

728
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: The biggest thing is you're happy though. Oh completely, I'm

729
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: happy to see you happy. You're always a happy person.

730
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Real, you know what.

731
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't have a bad day.

732
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: It's different when you don't have them demons on your back.

733
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: It's totally you don't have them demons on your back.

734
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: When them demons on your back and you're trying to

735
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: get up and go throughout every day, you gotta worry

736
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: about holy grimy dudes, people want your spot. It's just

737
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: so much. Didn't your family want everything? You gotta take

738
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: care of everybody because they always got their hands out. Man,

739
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: it be a lot. So to be able to get

740
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: up now and just figure out how I'm gonna get

741
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: another sponsor, wouldn't the walk gonna be. That's that's light.

742
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: That's light work, you know what I mean. Like Bob

743
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 4: always get yeah. I like sometime when I get ready

744
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 4: to panic about something, Bob had to remind He was like, man,

745
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: you did fourteen years. I know you're even the crawl with.

746
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

747
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have to pull me back in.

748
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

749
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 6: Nah, that's not that's real. That's that's that's that's that's

750
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 6: the real deal.

751
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: That's the real deal.

752
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: It's it's it's.

753
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: Hard that on this side though. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

754
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 6: tell you how I knew. And this I don't know

755
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 6: if editing out or not. But when I shud forgetting

756
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: my scrap, like have to turn around.

757
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: Man, I forgot my scrap?

758
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Like what life doesn't change? Like I forget that when

759
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: that should be the first thing before I why even.

760
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: Do that part? That part ain't I thought I'd be

761
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: like that part ain't left for you.

762
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 6: I'll be like, you got your Yeah you know what

763
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like you need a house of damn No, no,

764
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 6: forgot I.

765
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 4: Gotta turn around get yeah, like that ship was crazy.

766
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that just shows you to stop recording, stop

767
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: take I'm just gonna pay fifty dollars. I'm done fifty

768
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 6: for the day, I thought. She keeps pointing to me

769
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 6: like that bro gonna cash.

770
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can take the fifty though, and donated to

771
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: like one of the kids. I got a little boy,

772
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 4: Eliminade that's on probation and trying to change his life

773
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: around that I.

774
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: Met through I'm a massress. Fifty for the nigga, I

775
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: mean for the little dude.

776
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm on it too, even though I freet or whatever.

777
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, we could just donate that the customery could

778
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: get donated to.

779
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, that that's dope.

780
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: I think that really really dope.

781
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 7: And the kids, this motherfucking running up for the babies.

782
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 4: No, but being being an example, that's you know, if

783
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: it was good now that people could look and say,

784
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 4: oh she did it or he did it and have

785
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: something to look up to, to amar or to to

786
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 4: have a mark. You get what I'm saying, Like, Okay,

787
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 4: you know, because who would ever thought right? Yeah? Who

788
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: would ever thought right?

789
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: If you knew then what you know now, how would you.

790
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: Have moved different? Would you have moved with less people?

791
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: Would you have read people a different way? Would you

792
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: have just never maybe even gotten in the streets, Like,

793
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 5: how would that change if you knew then what you

794
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: know now.

795
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: I would have read people better. I still would have

796
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: got in the streets. I still would have still, yeah,

797
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: I can't lie. I ain't gonna tell them lie. I

798
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: still would have got in the streets. But I would

799
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 4: have read people, and I also would have see. My

800
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: problem was too, is that I told y'all, if you

801
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: tell me the age right there, I still gotta go

802
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: see for myself. So I was warned through like dreams.

803
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: My father called me one morning and told me, like

804
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: God said you too high and mighty.

805
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: He gotta bring you down.

806
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, Daddy, get off my phone

807
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: with that early in the morning. I don't want to

808
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: hear that. But it was the warnings. And then I

809
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: started to see people all around me get indicted. You

810
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: know what I mean that The first indictment came two

811
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: thousand and five, then two thousand and six. I still

812
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: would not stop. I still kept going the fire high.

813
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: I'm still touching the fire. So too, I would have

814
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: paid attention to the warnings because I don't feel like

815
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: I would have ended up in prison if I had

816
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: it just stopped right then and there when.

817
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: You got like a couple of the first warnings.

818
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, prison may may have saved your life, though something worse.

819
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: Definitely, I wouldn't be sitting here with y'all. There's no

820
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 4: doubt in my mind. I would be dead because for

821
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 4: a woman, it's different hustling when it's a meaning. I

822
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 4: did not date dudes here in Atlanta because I felt

823
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: like they was just trying to get next to me,

824
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: to get to see who the connect was, or to

825
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: either rob me. You get what I'm saying, Robert Hill.

826
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: So being in that type of game to that extent

827
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: that I was, I wasn't you know, you was no little,

828
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't no mule, and I wasn't riding off my

829
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: dude that I am the dude. You get what I'm saying.

830
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, but I really was like doing my thing,

831
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: you get what I'm saying. So I do feel like

832
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: there's times that I could have been taken out. I

833
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 4: do feel like I would have been dead. So yeah,

834
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 4: I do feel like prison. Prison did save my life,

835
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: and it was my wake up call to get back

836
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: on what my true mission in life is and what

837
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: my true destiny is. My destiny. I'm I'm a person

838
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 4: that naturally draws people to me, just naturally.

839
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: You know.

840
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: I used it for the wrong way. It was easy

841
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: for me to have a connect, easy for me to

842
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 4: run with this dude to that dude because they know share.

843
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 4: All she want to do is get money. She ain't

844
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: bringing no no nothing, no, no shadiness whatsoever to it.

845
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 4: So it was easy when I was using it front

846
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: the wrong way when it really I should be motivating

847
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: people and expiring people. That's that's that's my calling to

848
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: walk into my destiny, to help people to be free,

849
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: to to break free from mindsets, generational curses, everything, to

850
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: uplift and and and not to not to tear down.

851
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 6: What you think the biggest changes for like the city

852
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 6: of Atlanta from when you went in and got out,

853
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 6: and what is he different today?

854
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: Like the biggest one, I feel like that generation has changed.

855
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: That's what I feel. I really feel like. You have

856
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: to think about it. Back then, Yes, there was shooting

857
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: and killing, but it wasn't Atlanta. Wasn't there, Yeah it,

858
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 4: Atlanta wasn't known for twelve and thirteen year olds killing

859
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: each other. And they definitely twelve and thirteen year Olds

860
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: wasn't having switches back then. So to me, that's the

861
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: biggest besides the landscape, you know what I mean, that's

862
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: the biggest change that I've seen. I feel like the

863
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 4: generation is just totally different, totally different.

864
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: How long it took you write the book?

865
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 4: I wrote the book while I was in prison. You

866
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: know what, I ain't even gonna lie to you. I ain't.

867
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to get it off Amazon. No lie,

868
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: because look back. Let me tell you, I ain't had

869
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: no more books. Let me look who book this is.

870
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's hard. That's hard when you run up

871
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: on it again too.

872
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 5: No.

873
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: I had sent it to her and it came back

874
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: on return to sending and this was this was twenty

875
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 4: twenty three. It's an Oprah. I want this book to

876
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: be part of Oprah book Club, right so I said

877
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 4: it know the address say undeliverable. So I gotta try

878
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: to find another, you know another address.

879
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna help you with that.

880
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 4: But I wanted to be part of the book club.

881
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 4: But I had to bring one today for y'all to see,

882
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 4: for y'all to put up. But that that's that's Oprah's

883
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know how to get it to it.

884
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: I'm gonna yeah, yeah, I'm going on Amazon by my

885
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 6: own book.

886
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 4: You no, no, no, y'all. I want to hold him to

887
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 4: this because he was just on my podcast maybe about

888
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: a month ago, and he told me it was getting

889
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: the book, didn't I see? You still don't have to Yeah,

890
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: let's call it. Let's call it. Yeah, And remember you

891
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: said five yeah, yeah, that's the part out either.

892
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 5: Order.

893
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, So I wrote the book while I was

894
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: in prison. Yeah, and just said that when I came home,

895
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: I was going to I was going to publish it.

896
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: And that's what I did. Said anything else? When I

897
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: got big?

898
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: Did you have to spend any time or a lot

899
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: of time in the hole?

900
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: Yes?

901
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I spent seventeen months in the whole one time

902
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: I went in and October two thousand and nine, I

903
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: came out February twenty eleven. I was light skinned from

904
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: not having no sign not seventeen months, seventeen months.

905
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: How did you because I would lose it? So how

906
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: did you mentally keep it? I would lose it? How

907
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: did you keep it together?

908
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: You wouldn't lose it? Oh that's what you heard me,

909
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: Like a couple of minutes ago say everything that you

910
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: need is already within you to get through whatever situation

911
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: it is. Right. So the reason why I was in

912
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: there is because the government was playing games. So they

913
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: was trying to make my homeboys and then next door,

914
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: right they had just got them. They came after me,

915
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: some of some of the other dudes came after me.

916
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: So they were saying, I was back on the writ

917
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: that she's door if y'all don't take a plea, she

918
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: gonna testify against y'all. But they was lying, so they

919
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: was trying to use me as an intimidation factor for

920
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: them not to go to trial, you know. But I

921
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: had by then, I had been in prison probably like

922
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: two two and a half years, so by then I

923
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: had guards under you know, in my head like no,

924
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: get this, take this, let over next door, you know,

925
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: to them or whatever. But I ended up doing the

926
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 4: seventeen the seventeen months in there, and it wasn't easy,

927
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 4: and it was days I used to cause you know,

928
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: in that little nine x twelve, it's just a bed.

929
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: The sink is connected to the toilet, right, and the

930
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: toilet is just the bed, and the toilet is like

931
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: that where your foot is to the bed is like that.

932
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: And sometime I would look at that toilet then in

933
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: that bed and be like, for real, Lord, this is

934
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: what my life then came to. I'm like, this can't

935
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: be what my life then came to. Like, yes, I

936
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: did do wrong, but come on now, I noticing what

937
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 4: we're doing. But in that time, I started to write

938
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 4: the book while I was in the hole. I wrote them.

939
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 4: You know, started writing a book while I was in there.

940
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: You just have to find another way to redirect your energy,

941
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: to redirect your thoughts. And if you can do that,

942
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: you can get through anything. Yes, yes, anything, It's just

943
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: about redirected.

944
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: That's all that's real, because you gotta think when you

945
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 6: ask a question stream. I was just thinking like a

946
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 6: lot of stuff that I said, like I just doubt

947
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 6: it for no reason, you know, being like the best

948
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 6: thing for me, Like.

949
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: I can't start eating chicken, I just gotta have.

950
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

951
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: As soon as I go vgan, it's the best thing

952
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: for me, I feel.

953
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: Good, calmer. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's just

954
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 6: like we just doubts. We doubts and they probably be

955
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 6: a subject off topic. But the stuff we doubt it'd

956
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 6: be blessing inside.

957
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 4: Of this shit. Yeah. Yeah, you just have to push

958
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: your way, push your way through. And I'm a firm

959
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: believer anything. And it was people who was around me,

960
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that a girl committed suicide

961
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: in the hole, you know what I mean back there,

962
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 4: and then they had made it where you had to

963
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: have a bunky where it had to be two of

964
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: y'all in the room together because they felt like if

965
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 4: another person in there, then it can help, you know,

966
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: help the other person. But I wasn't on psych mads

967
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: or none of that. You know. I always tell people

968
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: God just wired me different. I just wired different.

969
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, what you do for fun? Do you you know

970
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 5: how to cook? Do you have a hobby that would

971
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: be like not definitely.

972
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: Not for fun. Let's just standing on my feet start. Yeah,

973
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: I do it, you know what I mean? But for fun?

974
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: I right now screen, I'm really just trying to build

975
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: my brandy. I'm going to drink.

976
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: You know.

977
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 4: I've been home two and a half years, right and

978
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: it's just like there is no for one k for me,

979
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: there is no social security for me. Oh that's out

980
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: the window because I was gone. So now I have

981
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: to build now where my grandkids are gonna be okay.

982
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: So fun for me is, for one, figuring out this

983
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 4: podcast game. Get what I'm saying. I look at it

984
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: as that's another way to me. I'm looking at it

985
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 4: as the dope game, you know what I mean. And

986
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 4: it's just about learning it, learning the land of it

987
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: and the layout of it, and figuring out like this,

988
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: the sponsorship and stuff. So that's my thumb right now.

989
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: Build you know, building a brand. That's my thumb right now.

990
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: But I like the shop.

991
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: Screen, that's what That's what I'm saying.

992
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: What ut of your cage?

993
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Though?

994
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: Like? What roud are you?

995
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: Like? Like you just saying like he was like like Bob,

996
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: just saying I know you ain't finna bitch you up now?

997
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 4: Like like what's wrong? What rid on me is when

998
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 4: things don't go my way?

999
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: I'm scoring what makes your anxiety go up?

1000
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: Fake phony dudes, fake phony people, That's what makes my

1001
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: anxiety go up. I feel like you stay from around me.

1002
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. Just stay just stay from

1003
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: around me, and I have to.

1004
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 6: Be here from sixteenth through the nineteen. I'll did you

1005
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 6: five of them ordered place?

1006
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: Thanks?

1007
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 4: No? You ordered audio. No I didn't. These are books.

1008
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: Let me say go back, y'all could.

1009
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 6: Now and okay, thirty each, Okay, all right, okay.

1010
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 4: It's a hard bag. You see that cover. You see that,

1011
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: and I.

1012
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Want to know when you take it's okay?

1013
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and we're gonna do it.

1014
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna do that.

1015
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: About money, Yeah.

1016
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: That's got money like.

1017
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be that.

1018
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1019
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: I self published too, Yeah, I self published and I

1020
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: just put it on Amazon this year. The first year.

1021
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: I didn't put it on Amazon because I don't believe

1022
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: in the middle man. You can Yeah, and they were

1023
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 4: forty percent, and I'm like, why am I gonna get

1024
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 4: them forty percent? When I sat in the hole and broke.

1025
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 4: You can't do one.

1026
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: Folk book game to the dope game.

1027
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: You can't. You want to be podcast?

1028
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 6: You know I'm talking you about it?

1029
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: Got white time I learned that you want me calling

1030
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: me like, yo, shame man? Stopped playing with me? Man,

1031
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 4: How did you do that?

1032
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: That's crazy? What do you enjoy about the podcast game?

1033
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: I enjoy I like talking to people talking, you know,

1034
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: I like talking to people. My one of my friends,

1035
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: just to be like, you talk so much you make

1036
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 4: folks hate you, you know what I mean. But I

1037
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: feel like the podcast game, because you were talking, they

1038
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: were hating anywhere I say the podcast game, I like

1039
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: talking to people, and I like that it has really

1040
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 4: created another avenue for African American young people to get money.

1041
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: Get what I'm saying, It's just about we have to

1042
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: really learn it, how they've learned it, and how they

1043
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 4: mastermind it. On on the other side, you know, Joe

1044
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: Rogan's and stuff. We just gotta you know, really get

1045
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 4: in there.

1046
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 5: But I feel like they support each other, stick together

1047
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 5: to like yeah.

1048
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and support one another because guess what, your lane

1049
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: ain't my lane, and my lane ain't y'all lane. You

1050
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 4: get what I'm saying. Everybody had their own lane. And

1051
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: if people can look at it like that, then we

1052
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: can be so much further. Ahand but you know, everybody

1053
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: want to be a gatekeeper. You know you know what

1054
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: the gatekeeper is. Don't want to tell you that, don't

1055
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 4: want to tell you to do this?

1056
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: Where to get from?

1057
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1058
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1059
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 3: What you like you?

1060
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm because they feel like it's going hindered in

1061
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 4: maybe you hindering you, b I'm not want to bless

1062
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: other people. Yeah, yeah, so that that's what I like

1063
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: about it though.

1064
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: You know, so our podcast thankfully does reach people in

1065
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 5: prisons that's currently serving times. So if somebody's in there

1066
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: may be frustrated with a broken spirit, like don't see

1067
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 5: don't may not believe they gonna see the daylight again,

1068
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 5: Like what would you what would you say to that

1069
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 5: person that's watching right now?

1070
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: Number one, stay after TV bro stay out the TV room.

1071
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah the t okay, So the TV room it's just

1072
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: a brewing ground for fights, right and then ye, in

1073
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: the TV room, you're not what are you feeding your spirit?

1074
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: You feeding yourself that stuff that's on there. Right, I

1075
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 4: only watch sports and news, and still to this day,

1076
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 4: I watch sports and news. I might catch it if

1077
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: somebody say a movie real good or if you know,

1078
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: like we start watching a movie and something like that,

1079
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: I might watch it. But I believe that while you're

1080
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: in there, you need to focus on everything that you

1081
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: can do to be better when you get out here.

1082
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Fact, and if you're constantly.

1083
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: Sitting in front of the tail live vision, you're not

1084
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: learning anything. So I didn't tell live vision. Yes, it's

1085
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 4: a distraction towards your vision, right, I used to allow

1086
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 4: myself because you have to have balance. So I used

1087
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 4: to allow myself one hour junk TV. And what I

1088
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: consider junk TV is like reality TV or something like that.

1089
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: So my junk TV was the Kardashians. That's what I

1090
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: used to watch. And I watched what was that you

1091
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 4: was in Superfly? I would stay. But even in washing that, Yeah,

1092
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: but even in watching that, guess what it did? It

1093
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 4: took me back to that era where I was getting money.

1094
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. It's standing on top of

1095
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: the table and all the girls around throwing money in

1096
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 4: the air and all that. So I would tell them

1097
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 4: Number one, stay after after, tell my vision room you

1098
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 4: get what I'm saying. Number two, focus on what you

1099
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: want to do. Like I used to tell myself, if

1100
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 4: prison wasn't the barrier, what would I be doing?

1101
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 3: Right?

1102
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 4: So they have to remove prison from it. And number three,

1103
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 4: I tell them to meditate. Meditation is so good, you

1104
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 4: know what I mean? You so hyper won't stop because

1105
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 4: this is what you have to do. So when you

1106
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: when you begin meditating, right when you first starting out,

1107
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: and you can't get your brain to stop, start start

1108
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 4: saying something over and over again, affirmation like I am powerful,

1109
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 4: I am powerful, I am powerful. The more you keep

1110
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: saying that, you can't hear your brain going because you're

1111
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: constantly saying.

1112
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 7: I am powerful, I am powerful, and the vibrations from

1113
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 7: your voice block out the rest of the shit.

1114
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 4: You're not saying I am powerful out loud. You're saying

1115
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: it to yourself, you know what I mean. You're sitting

1116
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: there saying to yourself over and over again. You do that,

1117
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: so you'll start off it. It'll be like five minutes.

1118
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, you'll be able to go ten minutes,

1119
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 4: and then you will be able to just sit in silence.

1120
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 4: One of the guards used to tell me, why are

1121
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: you sitting up there on the hill like a monk

1122
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: looking at that bad wire?

1123
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: Fair?

1124
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: I told him, you see the bod wire. I can't

1125
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: see the bob wire. My mom ain't even here. Yeah, yeah,

1126
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: so you just meditation. Meditation is good too. And last

1127
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: I would tell them to stay away from the Debbie Dowters, right, yeah,

1128
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: stay away from because prison is a mecca, y'all. Are

1129
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 4: there was a mecca for Pi? Yeah? Yeah, people be

1130
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 4: all you could be in prison and it's just negative.

1131
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: You gotta deal with not only each other, but you

1132
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 4: gotta deal with the guards who come in there who

1133
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: uh can't run their household at home. They come in there,

1134
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 4: they put that off on you. If something goes wrong

1135
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 4: at the top, it's gonna trickle down to the bottom

1136
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 4: to us. So you got to stay away from, you know,

1137
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: from negative you know, negative people.

1138
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like it, like like it. What's coming

1139
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 5: up for you? And let's talk about all your different endeavors.

1140
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 5: Like we got the book five of them on the

1141
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 5: way on my podcast.

1142
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure y'all get the book though. It's put

1143
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 4: the Palace Mentality and it's ten key weight, ten key

1144
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 4: principles to see your way through your worst situation. So,

1145
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: like the first principle is it set responsibility.

1146
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 3: No matter what's the foundation.

1147
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to set responsibility. So before when I

1148
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: first got in trouble, I'll be saying, oh he told me,

1149
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: she told on me. That was me just pointing the fingers.

1150
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 4: But I had to shift and say, say, if you

1151
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: wasn't doing nothing to they wouldn't have nothing nothing. Yeah.

1152
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: So number one is to responsibility, and I give you

1153
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: number three is not to become bitter and whatever you

1154
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: can't become. Yeah, I help you for the right price.

1155
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: What you mean, what's the price for helping them?

1156
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: Twit?

1157
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: You keep hollering that something. No, no, no, no, no,

1158
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: not when we're in a contract together. I thought you

1159
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 4: said free. Yeah, we all for the free free? So

1160
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: what I do? Can I just give it you?

1161
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 5: Just no?

1162
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: I tell you even better. They have a they have

1163
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 4: a software that you can hook to the computer and

1164
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: you're talking to the microphone. It's gonna type for you. Yeah,

1165
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 4: but I help you with the foundation of.

1166
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: How to start.

1167
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: I could do that. Yeah, I can do that for you.

1168
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 4: But right now I'm focused on the podcast, which is

1169
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: called break free Free is spelled p h r e E.

1170
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: And if you haven't subscribed, you better.

1171
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh well you too.

1172
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: I need to get me account. I just said that

1173
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: because I want to go come in. I want to

1174
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: go comment beef on our page.

1175
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 4: You got, I'm gonna get it too. I'm saying I'm

1176
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: finna get me.

1177
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna create me because I was just looking at

1178
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: our come in. I want to argue back now.

1179
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm finishing today. For all you need is all

1180
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 4: you need?

1181
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yeah?

1182
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, make and make sure as soon as he set

1183
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 4: it up, he subscribed to Break Frost. I'm gonna come in, okay,

1184
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: all right, Yeah, so I just started it maybe about

1185
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: I think we're on the eighth episode, and it's more

1186
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 4: so a podcast geared to inspire others to get through

1187
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 4: whatever they've been through, not just prison, but anything. Like

1188
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: one week, we had a young woman on there that

1189
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: has breast cancer. But she's young, you know, tell us,

1190
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: don't go get a mamma grammar to you forty, but

1191
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 4: she was under forty, you get what I'm saying. So

1192
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: she was sharing her story. And then this week right

1193
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: here is super dope to me. It's about molestation, right

1194
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 4: and the traumas that bring because it's not something that

1195
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: spoke about. So my whole mindset is to help others

1196
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: to break free from different things. I don't know if

1197
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: y'all know or not. Yeah, the inside is crowded, but

1198
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 4: it's more people out here that's in a prison than

1199
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 4: it is that those that are physically locked up, and

1200
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: people walk around in the prison every day. Women, you know,

1201
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: I hate to see how women will just will settle

1202
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: just because a dude got money. And I ain't talking

1203
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: about nobody because I've been there, you get what I'm saying.

1204
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: I've been there before. I was in the streets, and

1205
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: even when I first came home, I found myself settling,

1206
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 4: you get what I'm saying, because I felt like I

1207
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: needed to get on my feet or I'm a mess

1208
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: with this no top million other nigga, because you know,

1209
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 4: I need to get on my feet. But it's like

1210
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: we will settle and take anything because a dude feel

1211
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: like and I feel like, if we start putting our

1212
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 4: feet down, dudes won't be able to have two, three

1213
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 4: and four women because we all standing for the same thing.

1214
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: But as long as you got something that's just gonna

1215
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: stand for anything.

1216
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: It's always gonna be some whole don't care about it.

1217
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna go.

1218
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 6: There because y'all gonna be some stand with y'all USO

1219
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 6: go ho boy, I'm sorry.

1220
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: How many that with that?

1221
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1222
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 3: But how we can successfully make the host of minorities?

1223
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know that's that's what

1224
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: That's what I'm just focused on, Uh, just getting a

1225
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: podcast out there, learning and learning the game, learning the

1226
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: business side of it, because you can record all day,

1227
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: but if you don't learn the business side. Well, y'all know,

1228
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: because y'all, y'all already been through it. Y'all y'all already,

1229
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: are you get what I'm saying? So yeah, just trying

1230
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: to get to that next level in the podcast game

1231
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: and get more speaking engagements and release the second book.

1232
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna release a daily devotion three hundred and sixty

1233
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: five days of breaking free.

1234
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: You would you do it like a documentary or movie

1235
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: about you?

1236
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: I would love to. Yeah. My ultimate My ultimate dream

1237
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: is I want Tyler.

1238
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: Perry to do my story.

1239
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: I have a god see fit, you know. I mean,

1240
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 4: if it had to be a short story on Amazon

1241
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: or whatever had to be, I do know that my

1242
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 4: life is a story.

1243
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 6: I think you really dope me again.

1244
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 3: I think I think you're fuing amazing God like.

1245
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 4: We do.

1246
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: We do.

1247
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: We got this thing called Big Facts Friday. But we

1248
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: just have this open discussion. I wanna bring you on there.

1249
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: A couple of times you.

1250
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: Just told me I gotta do perspective. See what I'm saying. Now,

1251
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 4: let me tell y'all one thing about her Man tanz

1252
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: and mission uh and and but they then broke me

1253
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 4: in with him, and now he just thinks I'm just

1254
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: his personally. I'm gonna.

1255
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: Friday.

1256
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: They see I was supposed to do.

1257
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: To the ship show.

1258
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 4: I told him he interfild with my god. I go

1259
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 4: to church on Sundays. I ain't coming to the height

1260
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: right now.

1261
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: This, no, this, I want to.

1262
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 4: Said, she can do this panel. Yeah, y'all can do

1263
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 4: it together.

1264
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: Really all of them, I said, listen, y'all the first got.

1265
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.

1266
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 6: But I mean, you know, but I feel like you

1267
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 6: should be everywhere. Yeah, I'm just keeping it real because

1268
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 6: it ain't that many of us that's chosen. Yeah, so

1269
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 6: you should be everywhere because you are an example that

1270
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 6: you can be you. You know what I'm saying, a

1271
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 6: lot of people don't know that they can be them.

1272
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 6: It's still make it and still make it, you know

1273
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 6: what I'm saying that.

1274
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, And and people don't realize. Man, people accept you

1275
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: more when you're able to stand in your truth, when

1276
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: you able to be you. One night I had when

1277
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: a shin of airs that that's over the Airs Agency.

1278
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, shant of super dope. She had me to

1279
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 4: go with her to she had an event for the

1280
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: next PLIX rustling, right, and so at the dinner. It

1281
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: was like a question under your table. So I could

1282
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: have easily got intimidated in something because I'm just coming home.

1283
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 4: I'm in the room with movie execs and stuff like that.

1284
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 4: But I'm like no. So when they called on me

1285
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: like how do I owe my power? I stood up

1286
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 4: in all my power and let them know, Yeah I

1287
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 4: did do. I am a feeling. You get what I'm saying,

1288
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 4: But felling to me stands for front runner, eliminating labels,

1289
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: overcoming negativity. From the White House to the trap house.

1290
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: I'm still me, and I just feel like more people

1291
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: need to stand in who they are.

1292
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: It's okay, Bars, It's okay. It's okay, Bars, not the

1293
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: whole thing. Bars, Yeah, run that back, real man. You

1294
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: gotta just stand in your truth.

1295
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: Man.

1296
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 6: That's I feel like that's the only thing what's fucking

1297
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 6: up the world.

1298
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1299
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 6: People up being got on too many masks. You give

1300
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 6: me a chance to accept you.

1301
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: For who you are.

1302
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: If you be be you?

1303
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I can't deal with that. But you you you.

1304
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: Every time I see you, you you.

1305
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 6: If I see you being this way and you be

1306
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 6: this waiting, he another mother, say you this waiting.

1307
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: People don't have to self esteem to be them. They

1308
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 5: don't have a self esteem to be themselves. That's the problem.

1309
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 5: They're not happy with themselves, so they.

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01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Bank got a break.

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Speaker 4: Friend.

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: People don't have to self esteem to be themselves. They

1313
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: don't love theirs, that's the problem.

1314
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: But I feel like if it's the more of us

1315
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 4: right that can stand out and be ourselves, and the

1316
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 4: more that they see people that look.

1317
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: Like them, it becomes cool.

1318
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: It becomes cool, it becomes the thing to be because

1319
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 4: like we went back a couple of snitch, it wasn't cool.

1320
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 4: Why everything has a phase. The Bible says to everything, Yeah,

1321
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: I'm ready for it to be over. Yeah, I'm ready.

1322
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 4: I'm ready for it to be over too. Because another

1323
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 4: thing about telling on somebody else, You're not just telling

1324
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 4: on that person, You're telling on this.

1325
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: Whole family, right, you know what I mean.

1326
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 4: You're not thinking about the children, the mom, the dad depends,

1327
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that was the I

1328
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 4: think the worst thing for me was seeing how bad

1329
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 4: I hurt my parents. That was hard for me to

1330
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 4: turn around. Y'all. No lie that we could court, that

1331
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 4: we could travel, my mom. I turned around. My mom

1332
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 4: was like a size fourteen when I first got in

1333
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: trouble in the week she went down to like a

1334
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 4: size eight. And my dad is like naturally dark skinned

1335
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 4: like I am. And I turned around and looked at

1336
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 4: them one day in the court room. All of this

1337
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 4: was red, you get what I'm saying. So it was

1338
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 4: just and then my parents was already kind of up

1339
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 4: in age, you know what I mean. And the prosecutor

1340
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: was so nasty, like, oh, your parents gonna be dead

1341
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: when you get out of prison, trying to get me

1342
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: to tell and I was like, oh, you probably will

1343
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 4: be too, because I couldn't let it. I couldn't let

1344
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: it stick to you know what I mean. If I

1345
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 4: hadn't let that stick to me, then it's like, oh,

1346
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 4: I probably do need to cooperate with them because I

1347
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: want to see my parents alive, you know what I'm saying.

1348
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: But I just counteracted, you know. So it's just it's

1349
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 4: just people need to realize it's standing standing who you are.

1350
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 4: And if you know you can't do no time, don't

1351
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: do the crime. Yeah, and and and don't be caught

1352
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 4: up with people. I'm not getting in the car with

1353
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: nobody that I feel like still got something going on.

1354
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 4: In the streets because I'm putting myself in harms with

1355
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna put nobody in a position to telling

1356
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: me get what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't even want

1357
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: to see your benness. I don't even want to see that.

1358
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 6: Like Nigga to my pull up on pull up the spots.

1359
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 6: I'm not doing none of that because anything can happen. Brother, Yeah, anything,

1360
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 6: anything can happen to be no well around what you do.

1361
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 4: What you do, I don't have nothing to do with that.

1362
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: Do what you're doing. Kudos to You're gonna pray for you.

1363
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: I cannot. Yeah, I don't even really hang out like

1364
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 4: I used to, you know what I mean, Like if

1365
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 4: it's one of my friend's birthday or something like that,

1366
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 4: I'll come out, but I don't.

1367
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: I don't.

1368
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: I don't really, I don't really go out like that.

1369
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 4: I'll go to like events, but to just be in

1370
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: the club how I used to be in the club.

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 4: I ain't making no money, right, I've done it. I

1372
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 4: feel like I was alive in that era where we'll

1373
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 4: never see that era.

1374
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: Err again.

1375
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, you know, I've done it, and

1376
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 4: I'm just not putting myself in a position. I'd rather

1377
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 4: do things like I do now you like LinkedIn us

1378
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 4: stuff like that. I'd rather do stuff like that.

1379
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: How you finish your way up on a doctor?

1380
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: And I'm smart, see one thing you gotta know about her?

1381
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 4: So don't let me tell you. Let me tell you something. Man.

1382
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 4: I got books smart, I got street smarts, and I

1383
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 4: got common sense. Right, So nah, but I was they

1384
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: I got nominated for it. And then once they nominate

1385
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: you for it, like I probably could nominate you, right,

1386
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 4: but then you still gotta do the leg work. Yeah,

1387
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 4: And then so you do the legwork, like the paper,

1388
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 4: the interview, it was like two interviews or whatever, and

1389
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 4: then you have to just like, uh like write out

1390
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 4: the things that you've been doing, you know what I mean,

1391
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 4: what you do?

1392
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 5: You do?

1393
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 4: Community stuff, the bank? That hard.

1394
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: The nigga doctor, then you nigga doctor.

1395
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: I would start calling him mister Joe Toomar always yeah

1396
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 4: you could. Yeah, watched doctor. I was just documents. They

1397
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 4: told them, move are you? Yeah? My name was doctor?

1398
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 4: Any time to be doctor? J Yeah. I told him.

1399
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 4: I told her about that day. I said, how do

1400
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: you like the sound of it? Doctor? And doctor? You

1401
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 4: see right?

1402
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1403
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told her like them guards, like one of

1404
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 4: them had. This girl had reached out to me and

1405
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 4: said she's seen the guard in the restaurant, like inbox

1406
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,919
Speaker 4: me like free such and such said hi. I said, yeah,

1407
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 4: tell him. I told him I wouldn't see him again,

1408
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 4: but they'll see me again.

1409
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 2: Did you do you keep do you keep in touch

1410
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: with like any people you locked up with?

1411
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1412
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: I do?

1413
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, still down there and out Yeah, still down there.

1414
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: And my my two closest, my my T. This circle

1415
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 4: is girls that I met when I was in prison,

1416
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 4: you know, because it's just a different type of bond

1417
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 4: when you meet somebody. But now, don't get me wrong,

1418
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 4: it's a bunch of con artists and stuff. Yeah, but

1419
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: it really is some good, genuine people. And I was

1420
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 4: blessed to be to get around some really good people.

1421
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, and then I still have one of my homegirls.

1422
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 4: She's still in there, Max. We call her Max or whatever.

1423
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 4: The one JT wrapped about, which is that the only

1424
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: way I'm going back to TALLI is the holler at Max.

1425
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 4: She's still in there. So I hold her down, Yeah,

1426
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: I hold her damn talk to her and then jabo.

1427
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 4: You know, I told I told I told Jay he

1428
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 4: calling that three. I told her should be done about that.

1429
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 4: But yeah, I know what it's like to be in there.

1430
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: Sometime I do fall short, you know what I mean,

1431
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 4: like their email and I don't email right back, and

1432
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: I have to tell myself, Shay, you was there. You

1433
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 4: know that feeling, you know, to do better. People. If

1434
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: y'all have anybody incarcerat, don't leave them for dead man.

1435
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 4: They coming home one day, Yeah, they coming home and

1436
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: that And that's the thing I say. Now, see, think

1437
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: when I get back on top right already, No, I

1438
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 4: ain't gonna have to worry about who I gotta take

1439
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 4: care of and looking out for you, because it's gonna

1440
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: be a prerequency. What's you on that visitation list? Did

1441
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 4: you do anything for my son while I was going?

1442
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 4: Did you even try to check on my mother? The

1443
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 4: answer to not to any one of those questions. We

1444
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 4: ain't got none talking about I don't owe you nothing.

1445
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,240
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