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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Katty and He Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>The food company Purdue Farms announced last week it will

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<v Speaker 3>offer so called six seven chicken nuggets, even though everybody

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<v Speaker 3>who thought six seven was funny is now too old

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<v Speaker 3>for chicken nuggets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I did notice when I was in and out.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't and out the other day though, they skipped

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven because we are roughly in that area for

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<v Speaker 1>calling out numbers and they must still see it's a

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<v Speaker 1>burden to their restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that still a thing among the youngsters? Or is

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<v Speaker 4>that just here today gone today?

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<v Speaker 1>My kids would roll their eyes at it, But I

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<v Speaker 1>find that, like if you're me, if you're like a

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<v Speaker 1>parent trying to amuse your children, you might still go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I came across in a similar Vein think piece about

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<v Speaker 4>the incredible damage the short video scrolling does to your brain,

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<v Speaker 4>but like really philosophical about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, I would be into that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, not like in a navel gazing way. It

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<v Speaker 4>has to do with the fact that the way we

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<v Speaker 4>as human beings perceive our reality is maybe I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even delve into this because it's so well written, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do it poor job. But when you walk into

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<v Speaker 4>a room, you see a series of stories. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>just see individual objects. You see people and the surroundings

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<v Speaker 4>and the objects there, and you understand in a fairly

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<v Speaker 4>complex way the story that's unfolding in front of you

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<v Speaker 4>are multiple stories. And that from the time where little

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<v Speaker 4>children up until like last week, our whole lives were

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<v Speaker 4>about complete stories. Well, even little children's stories that you

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<v Speaker 4>read to your kids before bed has an introduction, a plot,

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<v Speaker 4>a resolution that's sort of a moral perhaps, And these

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<v Speaker 4>videos are just blurbs of blipps of action. That was funny,

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<v Speaker 4>the guy hit his head and there's like no story.

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<v Speaker 4>There's just a moment, over and over again. And now

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<v Speaker 4>that's terrible for your attention span.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lot more well, I think you get in

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<v Speaker 4>the idea. It's a lot more than just oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems hard to read books. Now you're actually reforming

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<v Speaker 4>your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you susceptible to that sort of thing? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I really look at it as a danger.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know it's a danger, but man, I'm susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to it and I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'll go to YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>For a specific thing, like piano lesson on a particular song,

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<v Speaker 1>but the YouTube algorithm with its shorts opens up and

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<v Speaker 1>starts playing automatically, and there's a highlight from an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>that knows I like, or a musician that knows I like.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's amazing how often it hooks.

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<v Speaker 1>Me because it's just thirty second, forty five seconds of

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<v Speaker 1>this great guitar solo. It knows I like from previous

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<v Speaker 1>stuff or this sports moment or political moment or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good at figuring. Same with Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>If I open Instagram, it hits me with, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>here's Steely Dan doing something. And I mean, it just knows,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's just a second, and the next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a half hour's gone by. It is like

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<v Speaker 1>the freaking worst drug, most of drug addictive drug ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, you can't even open them designed by the

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<v Speaker 4>most brilliant minds of our time, right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's probably because I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>So annoyingly contrary that I know what they're doing and

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<v Speaker 4>I hate it. So I won't indulge my sets.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting thing in that it used to be

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<v Speaker 2>a joke back.

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<v Speaker 1>In the nineties, I guess early two thousands. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got one hundred and fifty channels and you just

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<v Speaker 1>keep flipping through and can't find anything interesting. We wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to find something interesting. You're sitting there on the couch,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a little time, you've decided I did to

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate to watching television, and you can't find anything interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's the opposite problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single channel has got something that you have already

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<v Speaker 1>designated as among your most favorite things to watch, and

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<v Speaker 1>every channel is that, and it's and then sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>have the well, I'm gonna spend a half hour of

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<v Speaker 1>my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Amused and happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a bad thing after having worked all day long?

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<v Speaker 1>But it never feels satisfying in any way. Ah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting insight. Yeah, yeah, it's amusing. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>it's over, you feel well unsatisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it's because sometimes I convince myself, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>harm here? Good lord, enjoy some comedy bits from comedians

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<v Speaker 1>you like or whatever it's feeding me.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end, I'm always unhappy that I did it.

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<v Speaker 4>Always wow, wow, super interesting. Any thoughts on that? Drop

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<v Speaker 4>is a note mail bag at armstrong egetdy dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>I find this stuff absolutely fascinating. Mail bag at I'm

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<v Speaker 4>strung in getty dot com or if emailing your style, wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to text us four one five two nine five KFDC

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<v Speaker 4>as four one five two nine five KFTC and then

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<v Speaker 4>of course imagine if you've come to it as a

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<v Speaker 4>eleven year old or whatever without ever knowing any other

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<v Speaker 4>life or having anything to compare it to, then of

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<v Speaker 4>course you're perfectly fine just scrolling through it eight hours

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<v Speaker 4>a day or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Those numbers are on TikTok that are horrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, So a couple of different story slash topics

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<v Speaker 4>that are maybe tangentially political but mostly about dollars and

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<v Speaker 4>cents and that sort of thing. I found this very

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting biz journals with an analysis of the various

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<v Speaker 4>billionaires taxes that are being proposed or enacted, and really

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<v Speaker 4>all the blue states where they are just the state

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<v Speaker 4>budgets have metastasized in like California and New York, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>but the politicians say we need way, way more money,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're trying to come up with more ways to

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<v Speaker 4>tax and demonizing the wealthy is just super.

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<v Speaker 2>Popular in politics of env They've called it forever.

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<v Speaker 4>But an interesting analysis from biz Journals, The longest short

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<v Speaker 4>of it is that your big dollar philanthropic efforts, your

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<v Speaker 4>billionaires and multimillionaires who support your local symphony, opera, libraries,

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<v Speaker 4>aid to the poor. There are a thousand different examples

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<v Speaker 4>they're giving tends to skew substantially local. They've found, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>that generous donors to your alma mater, say your university,

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<v Speaker 4>that giving grows and intensifies the closer you are geographically

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<v Speaker 4>to that university. I went to Illinois, I ended up

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<v Speaker 4>in California, blah blah blah. I'm like, yeah, I remember it.

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<v Speaker 4>But who cares? If you live in Champagne or Banna,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, you're much more likely to kick them a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of money. Why not, you're part of the

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<v Speaker 4>whole community.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're a little venue for art or there's all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. Everybody can name in every town has

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<v Speaker 1>got somebody's name on it. Oh yeah, government or day

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<v Speaker 1>theater everything. Yeah, the government didn't make them do that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just did it here.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a twenty twenty five Bank of America study

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<v Speaker 4>of private philanthropy. Philanthropy found that seventy nine percent of

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<v Speaker 4>affluent donors gave locally seventy nine percent, and research consistently

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<v Speaker 4>shows that donors at all income levels are most likely

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<v Speaker 4>to give to local causes. So as you drive all

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<v Speaker 4>the billionaires and multimillionaires out of California, out of New York,

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<v Speaker 4>out of the Blue States, giving to charities will dry up.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's true, and people should be aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost hate making this argument, though, because in my world,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're spending all your money on chocolate pies, you

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<v Speaker 1>get to keep it, right, I agree, But it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that they're also you know, building an arts center

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<v Speaker 1>and a hospital and all these different things. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>your money, and I don't just because you got really wealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get to take a whole bunch of it

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<v Speaker 2>just because on it. Right. Two little bits of analysis.

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<v Speaker 4>Number One, the public employee unions that are sponsoring these

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<v Speaker 4>tax drives, they don't care, they don't give a crap

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<v Speaker 4>about anything, but they're coffers. They make quasi moral arguments

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<v Speaker 4>about income inequality and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>All it's just a grift.

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<v Speaker 4>All they want is money and they don't care about

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<v Speaker 4>anything else. Second thing is the only reason I brought

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<v Speaker 4>this is that I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people who are just kind of half paying attention that thinks, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>these people do have a tremendous amount of money, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're short of tax dollars, so yeah, let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 4>and stick it to them, and pointing out that yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>charitable giving is going to get decimated in your area.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, maybe it'll make them think. Plus, the

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<v Speaker 4>amounts never add up. The math doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tax all the billionaires, it doesn't even come

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<v Speaker 1>close to closing whatever deficit you have federally or in your.

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<v Speaker 2>State, right right.

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<v Speaker 4>And the idea that a one time tax could do

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<v Speaker 4>anything and do any good structurally is hilarious. But again

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<v Speaker 4>the unions make that argument, Hey, we'll get a one

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<v Speaker 4>time giant truckload cash dropped off at our front doors.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all we want, it's all we carry you one time. Right, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that too. This I'm not sure we really have time

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<v Speaker 4>to get into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe later.

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<v Speaker 4>But there is a couple of home distiller cases, people

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<v Speaker 4>brewing their.

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<v Speaker 2>Own whiskey at home.

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<v Speaker 4>Specifically, that could well end up upending a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely terrible precedents on the Commerce Clause at the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 4>the huge overreach that began in when was it nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>forty two Wickered v. Philburn, infamous case in which the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court said a farmer growing wheat to feed his

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<v Speaker 4>own livestock might have a tangential effect on the interstate market,

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<v Speaker 4>so the government can regulate his growing of wheat to

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<v Speaker 4>feed his own livestock. A wild abuse of the Commerce clause,

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<v Speaker 4>which grants federal government the right to regulate commerce between

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<v Speaker 4>the state as it's put And that kind of built

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<v Speaker 4>that set of presidents built on that idiotic case.

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<v Speaker 2>But home distillers might be tearing that down.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can explain how in a little bit afterward

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<v Speaker 4>from our friends at Incogny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've been talking about for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something that can be done about all the

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<v Speaker 1>spam texts, emails and calls you get?

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't we stop this? Can they write a law

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they'll have a law someday, but for now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Incogny and COGNI is the answer to this problem.

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<v Speaker 5>For you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so tough to enforce the laws. They try,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's weak.

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<v Speaker 4>So each scam text, spam call, sketchy email with your

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<v Speaker 4>name starts the same way. Somebody found you on a

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<v Speaker 4>data broker site. So what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You disappear?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Cogny can actually go onto all those data

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hard drives and everything that's got all your

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<v Speaker 1>data stored there, and they can force them by law

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<v Speaker 1>to take it off there. You're going to see a

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<v Speaker 1>reduction in the number of spam texts, calls, and emails

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<v Speaker 1>really really fast when you sign onto Incognate.

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<v Speaker 4>Both using it, we've both seen a difference. They can't

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<v Speaker 4>bring to you, where did it go? Oh, from the

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<v Speaker 4>Department of Bad Ideas. This is politics. Well I started

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<v Speaker 4>worried about US democracy. Astronauts are launching a political nonprofit

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<v Speaker 4>new nonpartisan group of NASA veterans, says it will advocate

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<v Speaker 4>for rule of law and score political candidates on civic responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you read into this account happens to be

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<v Speaker 4>in the Wall Street Journal. Again, it's a mix of Republicans, Democrats,

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<v Speaker 4>and independence, but it's one more than one hundred former

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<v Speaker 4>NASA astronauts have formed essentially a political action committee. Is

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<v Speaker 4>there a topic there? Well, like I said, the rule

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<v Speaker 4>of law and civic.

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<v Speaker 1>Responsibility, I smell some particular issue that they're into.

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<v Speaker 4>In an open letter to the American people, of the

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<v Speaker 4>group states quote, for decades, we've seen a steady erosion

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<v Speaker 4>of our founding values and principles that weakens our democratic systems.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree with them completely. Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>The result has been political polarization and subversion of key

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<v Speaker 4>constitution and institutional norms, including bipartisan cooperation, executive constraint, and

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<v Speaker 4>judicial independence. I would agree with all of that. Without

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<v Speaker 4>naming President Trump or other officials. The group promises quote

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<v Speaker 4>to take officials to task when they ignore the rule

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<v Speaker 4>of law, or distort or disregard the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I wish you luck, because the first time

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<v Speaker 2>you flex your muscles on this, people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>deem you.

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<v Speaker 4>That side and then you're doing Garrett Riseman, aged fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 4>registered Democrat and one of the group's co founders, said

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<v Speaker 4>he decided to start the organization last year after the

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<v Speaker 4>conduct he saw while witnessing an immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>Raid at a local car there you go. Quote.

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<v Speaker 4>What I saw seemed to me just fundamentally Unamerican. It

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<v Speaker 4>seemed to me more like I was used to seeing

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<v Speaker 4>when I lived in Russia, where basically the security services

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<v Speaker 4>can act with impunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fine if you do that, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>come out really strong against what Virginia did yesterday and redistricting.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to see you working both sides of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, and you've just politicized astronauts right right, leading to

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what you're decrying, increased partisan you know, polarization and

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<v Speaker 4>subversion of working across the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff should have left you up there.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything, Oh boy, that's strong. Everything doesn't have to be political. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>go into space, come back, tell us about the moonnocks right.

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<v Speaker 2>Shot you into space once. We didn't have to bring

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<v Speaker 2>you back. Fair warning.

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<v Speaker 1>We got more Monica's thong, what it did for America,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, Hey, get this.

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<v Speaker 6>The Carnival cruise passenger just one a three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 6>dollars lawsuit for claiming that the shift's staff serves her

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<v Speaker 6>fourteen tequila shots in the span of eight hours. Carnival

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<v Speaker 6>was like, how else are we going to kill the

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<v Speaker 6>nora Ins?

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a woman actually local tour we broadcast from.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm horrified by this. I was wondering when we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this the other day, what percentage of Americans see, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. They shouldn't have given her so much booze.

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<v Speaker 1>And what percentage of Americans say.

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<v Speaker 2>You ordered him? It's on you, right, nobody made you

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<v Speaker 2>drink them.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a guess where we are is a nation

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<v Speaker 1>on that sort of topic. I don't personal responsibility versus

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<v Speaker 1>it's clearly somebody else's fault.

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<v Speaker 4>I think probably sixty forty the wrong way. If I

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<v Speaker 4>have to guess sixty forty the bad way, I bet

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<v Speaker 4>you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>And those of us who are who have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bellied up to the bar and stood there longer than

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<v Speaker 1>we should have. Who has ever me and none of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends who have gotten way drunker than we should

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<v Speaker 1>have as far as I know, have ever even contemplated

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that the problem was with the bartender or

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<v Speaker 1>the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's how drunk I got last night or

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<v Speaker 2>what I did afterwards.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, as the people, we've been systematically trained away

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<v Speaker 4>from self reliance and being the captains of our own

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<v Speaker 4>ship because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not useful for leftist politics.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, it's like a it's like rat poison to

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<v Speaker 4>a rat, self reliance to Marxism.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always talking about how weird it would be to

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<v Speaker 1>be in someone else's brain. This would be a really

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<v Speaker 1>good example, because if you go through life with the well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got really drunk last night and crashed my car

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<v Speaker 1>or hit on somebody I shouldn't hit on or feel

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<v Speaker 1>sick today or whatever, and so that the bar's fault

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<v Speaker 1>or the bartender's fault. Your view of the planet on

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<v Speaker 1>every issue, I'm guessing, is so much different than mine.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be like being a different species of person.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael, say, how many people on that jury were drinkers?

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<v Speaker 4>I bet the defense selected very very carefully for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it strikes me that if you have that

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<v Speaker 4>mind set, well, let me put it to you like this.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're of our point of view that you're the

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<v Speaker 4>captain of your own ship, you need to take responsibility

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<v Speaker 4>for your own actions. Not only are you willing to

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<v Speaker 4>accept that, you like that? How liberating would it be

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<v Speaker 4>to never have to blame yourself for any of your

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<v Speaker 4>stupid moves and screw ups and failures.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So why do I think the way I think?

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<v Speaker 1>This occurs to me a lot. When I was flat

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<v Speaker 1>broke for a long time, never crossed my mind that

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<v Speaker 1>it was anybody's fault other than I didn't apply myself

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<v Speaker 1>enough or choose the right line of work or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Never crossed my mind that there was something wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>our system or all. It's all kinds of different examples

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Just never occurred to me to blame somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else for the situation that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope my kids have that same belief I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where I got it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember my parents specifically talking to me about it, so

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<v Speaker 1>it must just kind of throw a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Of different circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>You become aware as a kid that, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get to blame this on somebody or something. Nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>to like Let sure you about it, because it's said

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred times in a hundred different ways, like every single.

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<v Speaker 2>Day must yeah, yeah, yeah, having our folk tales and

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<v Speaker 2>traditional songs and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is about you know, you're in charge of you,

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<v Speaker 4>for good or bad, and we're losing that, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, fight against the teacher kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Folks very troubling. So one of the great what ifs

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<v Speaker 2>of history.

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<v Speaker 1>If Monica Leinsky hadn't worn in the thong that day

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<v Speaker 1>sticking out out of her skirt, how different could our,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, entitlement problem be Gingrich and Clinton were working

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<v Speaker 1>on that and it got.

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<v Speaker 2>Derailed by a hot, hot chick. So according to some Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you make that face with us? Armstrong and Getty?

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<v Speaker 2>The build is happening.

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<v Speaker 5>That build starts with twelve billion dollars to modernize air

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<v Speaker 5>traffic control, with upgrades now underway to radios, radars, and

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<v Speaker 5>safety systems. The next step in AI system merging airlines

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<v Speaker 5>flight schedules with FAA systems to cut airport delays.

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<v Speaker 7>The software will say, well, listen, we can see this

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<v Speaker 7>forty five days out. Let's move some of those flights

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then you're not delayed.

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<v Speaker 5>The software has a possible price tag of six to

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<v Speaker 5>ten billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>AI is a tool, but we do not replace humans

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<v Speaker 7>and how we manage the air space? Am I going

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<v Speaker 7>to replace a controller and have AI manage their space?

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<v Speaker 7>The answer to that is hell, no, that's not going

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<v Speaker 7>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, to answer the question for simpletons at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the Oh goodness, ten to twelve billion. What why.

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<v Speaker 1>Could AI do a better job of scheduling planes and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out how where they need to be?

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<v Speaker 4>When I got to believe it can. Yes, I've talked

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<v Speaker 4>to several friends who've had it. Like you put together

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<v Speaker 4>a vacation plan, you know, as a travel agent innocence,

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<v Speaker 4>and it works wonderfully.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, it's just it's a schedule. It's a grid.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Katie, when I mentioned Monica Lewinsky being a hot chick,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you burst out and laughing and roll your eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious. I didn't roll my eyes. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just the way that you said it. Okay, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was fair. I can't remember the exact honing you used.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, So this book, which actually came out a while back,

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<v Speaker 1>but is back in the news for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I don't if they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make a musical out of it or what.

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<v Speaker 1>But the it's called the Pact Bill Clinton Newt Rich

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<v Speaker 1>in the rivalry that defined a generation. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they're because of where we are with our entitlement programs.

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<v Speaker 1>They are hinging on one particular chapter about how Newt

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<v Speaker 1>Gingrich and Bill Clinton were actually going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>big swing at dealing with our social Security Medicare problems

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<v Speaker 1>and like, we're serious about it. And I read this

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<v Speaker 1>chapter and it really gets into weeds on the way

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<v Speaker 1>in ways that you might not want to. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting that all of their internal polling, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>their Clinton's pollster, Mark Penn, who by the way, has

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<v Speaker 1>been writing great stuff about how we're on the right

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<v Speaker 1>path with Iran and Trump is handling this the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Penn, brilliant administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, uh, Mark Penn had found that seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Democratic voters favored some sort of privatization of Social

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<v Speaker 1>Security at that time, and obviously the Republicans did. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a couple of other things, you know, on term

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fix medicare, and it was all as usual,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're gonna have to do some raising of the

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<v Speaker 1>ages and cutting his services and raising taxes and things

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<v Speaker 1>that are easy for both sides to hate. And how

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton and Nuke Gingrich had come to trust each

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<v Speaker 1>other and be friends over a long period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>starting in a position of hating each other and not

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<v Speaker 1>trusting each other at all, and grown over time to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the other person was was serious. And all

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<v Speaker 1>of these behind the scenes secret meetings they were having

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<v Speaker 1>because of a word. You know, you know how politics

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<v Speaker 1>is now, it's worse now than it was in But

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<v Speaker 1>if word leaked out at all that Newt Gingrich was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talking to Bill Clinton about giving on something,

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<v Speaker 1>or Bill Clinton was talking a new about giving on something,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be destroyed. And so they had to keep it secret.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had this plan to announce it at the

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<v Speaker 1>State of the Union address with as I heard Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Dole say one time, with we both have to have

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<v Speaker 1>one foot in the canoe, where if the other guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, jumps out, we all fall in.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the only way you can make these things work.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were really really serious about this in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that could have you fixed this problem and set

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<v Speaker 1>us on a path that would be completely different than

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<v Speaker 1>anything that we've got now.

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<v Speaker 4>And this noting the Clinton administration was the last time

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<v Speaker 4>we had a balanced budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Right part Bill Clinton part knew Gingrich on that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The details were going to be worked out in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>which is always difficult, but the broad outlines are clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Gingrich was willing to give up the tax cut that

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<v Speaker 1>he had been demanding for a proposal that included private

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<v Speaker 1>investment in social security. Bill Clinton was going to allow

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<v Speaker 1>that to happen if Gingrich gave on to a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of his things, and so they actually were going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a shot at this and privatization of social Security.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that the mid nineties is now thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have had some of that money that is

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<v Speaker 1>making no money really and well it doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It got spent.

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<v Speaker 1>Your social security lush fund could have been in some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of market that what would it be worth now

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<v Speaker 1>the money you put in social Security thirty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>with what the market has done.

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<v Speaker 4>If you'd put every time instead of in social Security

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<v Speaker 4>and an index fund, you would be vastly wealthier than

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<v Speaker 4>you are right now. Who my God, not even close, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>But the government wouldn't have had the slush fund. That's

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<v Speaker 4>why it's not going to pass now. And I hate

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<v Speaker 4>to be discouraging, but if you still are under the

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<v Speaker 4>impression that you give them the money and they hold

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<v Speaker 4>it and invest it for you, haw haw haw, now

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<v Speaker 4>they just spend it as fast as it comes in.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they think, how the hell are we going to

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<v Speaker 4>pay the people the money they got coming when they retired.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, We'll just print more.

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<v Speaker 1>What was interesting to me about this reading this is

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<v Speaker 1>how much it comes down to two personalities often. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like with the war, Trump's personality and whoever's

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<v Speaker 1>in charge in Iran or or or or or putin

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<v Speaker 1>in t or whatever. How often these big issues come

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<v Speaker 1>down to two personalities. And the people around Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>and Nuke Gingrich were telling them that they were being played.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to agree to this, and Bill Clinton's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say new Gingrich wants to privatize security

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<v Speaker 1>social security and then you know, throw you under the

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<v Speaker 1>bus right before the midterms or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And people are telling nut the same thing. But they

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<v Speaker 2>came to.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust each other to where they could actually do this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if that's even possible anymore for

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<v Speaker 1>anybody to build that kind of trust. Anyway, I'll jump

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<v Speaker 1>to the punchline, which we all know what the punchline is.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking news early on Wednesday morning, January twenty first of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Erskine Bowles, who was in charge of Bill Clinton's policy

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<v Speaker 1>on this, arrived at his office in the White House

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<v Speaker 1>at seven am and saw a daily briefing that included

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<v Speaker 1>a Washington Post story about the President having an elicit

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<v Speaker 1>affair with an unnamed White House In turn, Bulls learned

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<v Speaker 1>about it from that went into Bill Clinton's office.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton said, Erskine, I want you to know this

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<v Speaker 2>story is not true. Bulls believed him. We all know

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<v Speaker 2>how that turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>Newt Gingrich got tremendous pressure to jump on this affair immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the rest is history. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news of oh, the president had an affair. We

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<v Speaker 1>can damage him with. This ended any hope of reforming

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<v Speaker 1>Social Security and Medicare in the way that we absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>have to do to avoid disaster.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm back to thinking this system of government doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore. And that was thirty years ago, the twists in

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<v Speaker 2>turns of history.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, yeah, that's our biggest financial problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, that's the biggest threat China. Please not physical insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>It might not even be our biggest financial problem. It

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<v Speaker 2>might be our biggest problem problem. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And we didn't the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs a

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<v Speaker 4>few years back say this is the greatest existential threat

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<v Speaker 4>to the United States bar none by far. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>tough to get people to pay attention or care. How

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<v Speaker 4>can we come that close?

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<v Speaker 2>Once it gets derailed by you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Of bj in, a vestibule, a star struck horn dog

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<v Speaker 4>of an intern, and a horn dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a president. Yes, yes, yes, Hilary waise In.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that that may be the all time stupid

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<v Speaker 4>and inconsequential derailing, the incredibly serious, inconsequential in American history.

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<v Speaker 4>There are probably other examples of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I don't know what, I don't know any Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on how incredibly unimportant it is in the overall scheme

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<v Speaker 1>of things. It's important to Hillary obviously, but overall the

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>fact that President Bill Clinton had yet another affair versus

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problem we've got in America getting sold right.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, that might be the greatest mismatch of consequential

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<v Speaker 1>and inconsequential.

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<v Speaker 4>Ever, here's a counterfactual for you. Since the impeachment, which

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<v Speaker 4>really was a waste of everybody's time and money, centered

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<v Speaker 4>around the idea that he'd lied under oath and the

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 4>hole depends on what your definition of is is, which

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>actually was a better case than people give him credit for.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was I going to say, Oh, here's your

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<v Speaker 2>counter factual.

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<v Speaker 4>What if when he saw that headline, he'd said to

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<v Speaker 4>both the musically named Erskine Bulls and America after talking

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<v Speaker 4>to Monica, saying, look, we've just got to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not terribly proud of ourselves. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know if he came out and said, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's true, It's absolutely true. I'm ashamed of myself

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 4>my whole life. I've I've been prey to my own

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 4>sexual desires in a way that I am not proud of.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 4>I apologize to miss Lewinsky. I apologize to the nation.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a lack of self control and I should

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<v Speaker 4>be better, period.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen. William Jefferson Clinton, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Would proud have weathered the storm. The truth came out anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, we wouldn't have had the delightful Linda Tripp tapes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Monica, I guess what I said, right, I love you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's worse than that, Oh Monica, I love you, butt head.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Monica, twit. I don't know. I read the full

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>length of that article and it was so depressing. Yeah,

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>how's that even impossible?

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, Uh, I was going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>medical school, become a doctor, and be rich for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of my life. But I got a speeding ticket

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to the uh concert.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was just going to say, you you

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<v Speaker 4>send your husband or brother or whomever to go buy

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 4>apple stock in nineteen ninety two, and they got hungry

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 4>and stopped at a burger stand and forgot and lost

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 4>the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like, what, oh boy, what is he

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<v Speaker 2>going to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Dang it? Yeah, I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will we ever get to a place where where that

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<v Speaker 2>They hate him too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, that's problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh golly, g you what were we talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna get my cancer treatment, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay my cable bill, so it got canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't come up with any other examples of anything

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<v Speaker 1>this minor to this important.

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<v Speaker 4>Junior needed a bookmark for their book for their book report,

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<v Speaker 4>so I gave them the winning lottery ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they lost it.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, but you couldn't just find a scrap of like

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<v Speaker 4>the keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So can.

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<v Speaker 4>We ever get back to any sort of bipartisanship.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right, That's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, it's funny how few people are aware

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<v Speaker 4>of this small dollar online donations of perverted American politics,

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<v Speaker 4>far beyond what corporate giving ever could have. The whole

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 4>dark money thing that Democrats used to decry, and now

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<v Speaker 4>they use more dark money than Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me throw it one optimistic note, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope since so many people are leaving the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democratic Party and calling themselves independents.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>That that whole you can't be seen talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy thing will go away because there's so many people

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<v Speaker 1>that don't aren't beholden to either party because they're disgusted

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>by them, that if they see Mike Johnson, well he

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<v Speaker 1>won't be Speaker at the House at the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>in theory, Mike Johnson the Republican Speaker of the House

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<v Speaker 1>talking to President rama.

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<v Speaker 2>Manuel and trying to work out a deal, and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like, you know, decide, oh, he's a writer. That

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Will there be more interest in more donations toward hey,

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<v Speaker 4>let's do this as opposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To how are you? I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that impulse is there and it's growing, But

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<v Speaker 4>will it reach critical masses?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We'll all find out together. God, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope a lot on the way stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't a worse organization in America perhaps than the

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<v Speaker 1>Southern Uh, the Southern Poverty Laws Center, and they're lion

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>lion crap. For decades that the mainstream media has taken

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<v Speaker 1>as one hundred percent Sincere will Man did a story

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<v Speaker 1>break on them yesterday that we'll get into an hour three.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, finally that force for evil and racism is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be brought down, or so it would seem,

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<v Speaker 4>stay with us. So crime doesn't pay, as the old saying,

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<v Speaker 4>or at least it used to be. Crime does pay.

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<v Speaker 4>You just have to pick the right crime, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've got a couple of stories on crime coming

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<v Speaker 4>up next hour. But I thought it was interesting the

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<v Speaker 4>journal ran these stories like two days apart, violent Colombian

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<v Speaker 4>gang eln runs the Venezuela cocaine trade that Trump vows

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<v Speaker 4>to end. And then I think it was a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of days earlier how a Brazilian prison gang became a

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<v Speaker 4>global cocaine power. These are two different things, one in Brazil,

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<v Speaker 4>one in Venezuela, but now they're each operating in like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a few to twenty one country something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>In the case of the Brazilian prison gang, which is

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<v Speaker 4>actually kind of an interesting criminal enterprise in that they

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<v Speaker 4>believe in keeping a low profile, keep the violence to

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<v Speaker 4>a minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>Violence draws it. We don't want that.

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<v Speaker 4>We're business people, but they're operating all over the Americas

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<v Speaker 4>and in Europe now which brings us to this also

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<v Speaker 4>in the Wall Street Journal, how cyber crime became a

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<v Speaker 4>leading industry in Scambodia, as it's being called now.

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<v Speaker 2>Crime syndicates in.

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<v Speaker 4>Cambodia control corrupt officials, They enslaved workers and fleece victims worldwide.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a giant, very Trumpian looking like gold hued

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<v Speaker 4>skyscraper rising in PanAm Penn, the capital of Cambodia.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take your word for it.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a owned by a Chinese fellow by the

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<v Speaker 4>name of shue I Min, sixty four year old China

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 4>born convict in casino mogul who has shielded himself from

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<v Speaker 4>law enforcement through his political connections. He is like one

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<v Speaker 4>of the magnates of the scam operations that have cropped

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 4>up across Cambodia, and he's making so much money he's

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<v Speaker 4>building the highest skyscraper in the country. Scam compounds some

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<v Speaker 4>of the size of small towns have housed enslaved workers

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<v Speaker 4>doing the gruntwork of online scams, posing his love interests

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<v Speaker 4>investors or police. Prominently predominantly Chinese syndicates operating in Cambodi

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<v Speaker 4>have grown so enormous in scale that some foreign politicians

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<v Speaker 4>refer to the country of eighteen million as Scambodia. As

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<v Speaker 4>we mentioned, these are the people calling you, constantly, texting you,

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<v Speaker 4>constantly emailing you, constantly, incognity dot com, slash Armstrong, and

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 4>they're in bed with the government of Cambodia. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they are in terms of the Cambodian economy, like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, banking is to the United States. It's become

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 4>that big and they're that protected. Cambodian officials deny complicity

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<v Speaker 4>with transnational scam syndicates.

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<v Speaker 2>What scams in Cambodia.

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<v Speaker 1>Why, I never sort of thing that obviously was not

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<v Speaker 1>possible at all pre Internet age for some little country

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the world to get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in fleecing Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, impossible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So they looked into legal filings, Cambodian corporate records,

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<v Speaker 4>and sanctions from the US and other countries. They document

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<v Speaker 4>the infiltration of Cambodia's ruling class by online scam networks.

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<v Speaker 4>Wall Street Journal interviewed more than a dozen men and

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<v Speaker 4>women who worked in Cambodian scam operations, as well as

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<v Speaker 4>law enforcement officials, activists, helping enslaved workers. They actually are slaves,

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<v Speaker 4>held against their will, beaten and tortured if they don't,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, stick to the scamming and get enough done.

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<v Speaker 4>And former executives and companies associated with alleged cybercrime activities.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you rather have to pick cotton or send out

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<v Speaker 2>spam emails? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I not really picked cotton or build railroads. Sitting at

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<v Speaker 4>a computer terminal versus being out in the hot sun,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd probably take the scamming.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose, although I like the outdoors.

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<v Speaker 4>Americans alone lost ten billion dollars to online fraud originating

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<v Speaker 4>from Southeast Asia in twenty twenty four alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, what is it? What is it? Mostly?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I've ever lost a dollar? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think, so what is it? Mostly don't?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know exactly. It's a bilking people out of

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<v Speaker 4>their bank accounts. The love interest thing. Hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're really hitting it off online. I need two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars because my plane ticket got lost. That sort of

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<v Speaker 4>thing is rampant.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, don't do that. Don't send them the money. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and Getty