1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We bring in Albert Breer, Monday Morning Quarterbacks, 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: senior NFL reporter, the lead content strategist. There. Did Deshaun 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: Watson demand a trader? Requested trade Albert? And is there 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: a difference? Yeah, I don't think there's much of a difference. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: He wants out, He's not returning their phone calls right now. 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think the new GM Nick Kissario, 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the new head coach David Cullier, or in a tough 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: spot here because I think both those guys would, you know, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: for obvious reasons like to try and men defenses. But 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: for right now, I don't think Deshaun Watson really wants 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: to talk to anybody over there. And maybe that'll change 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: over time, but that's where he's at. I think one 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: of the things that makes us really tough for Cassario 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: and Cullie is that his issue, Deshaun Watson's issue is 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: with the one thing that they can't change, and that's ownership. 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: And so I don't know how they go about fixing this. 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: I know that there haven't been you know, I mean, 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: teams have called, but I know the Texans haven't been 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: engaging people in trade talks to this point. We'll see 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: if that changes over time. It's certainly interesting because you know, 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I think you have all the quarterback movement we all 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: sort of anticipate coming over the next couple of months, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and there are, you know, different sets of negotiations that 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: are going to be moving at very different paces. I 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: was also wondering the timing of all of this. Yesterday 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: that you announce that you're bringing in college you got 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: your new head coach, he's a minority, and then Schefter 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: tweets out whoever told him the information that now it's 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: official that Deshaun wants and wants out. On the day 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: you're bringing in your coach, this news comes out. Is 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: that just a coincidence? Yeah, I mean, I think you know, 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: and I don't want to speculate on what Adam did specifically, 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: but you know, a lot of times in cases like this, 35 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: when there is a story that's sort of lingering out 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: there the way the Watson thing's been lingering out there, 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: and there's some movement related to the story, like a 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: head coach higher would be movement related to the story, 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: you might check back in with people and ask around again, 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes that's how these things come to light. So 41 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe a little bit more of 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: that than you know, anybody you know connected to Deshaun 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: Watson trying to plant those things because they've been saying, 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the people around Watson have been saying for 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now, this is going to be 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: a really difficult one for the Texans to fix. Like 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: and even if they bring back Tim Kelly, the offensive 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: coordinator that Deshaun has grown to like a lot, even 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: if they bring in a quarterbacks coach, he's okay with. 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Even if they bring in a head coach, he's okay with. 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: His issues are larger than just that with the Texans. 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he feels like he was lied to, and 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: he feels like he was misled and to some degree 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: patronized over the last couple of months. And so you know, 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I think that the idea that this was just planted 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: um on the day that the Texans announced the head 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: coach higher Um, I think that that's probably at least 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: a little bit like incorrect. And um I also I 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: can tell you this, like the trade request didn't go 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: in yesterday, So it's not like you know, David Culley's name, 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: the head coach, and then they turn around and ask 62 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: for the trade that's actually been in for I think 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: a little over a week. Now, give me the teams 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: that should be in play for DeShawn Watson. Who can 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: be in play for DeShawn Watson, not one of those, 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, hypothetically, because there it turns out that feels 67 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: like there's twenty teams that could be should be involved 68 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson. Yeah, I mean, I like, I think 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: the two that that that I think he would most 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: like to go to, UM, you know when I've asked 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: around about this, that that have come up the most 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: or Miami and San Francisco UM for different reasons. Miami 73 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: is an ascending program. UM. You know, they're gonna have 74 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: the ability from a resources standpoint to put a lot 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: around on the quarterback over the next couple of years, 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: and so I think Miami would appeal to on for 77 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, a number of different reasons. And then I 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: think San Francisco it's ready made, right Like if they 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: trade you to the Niners, you're I mean, this is 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: a team that is in the Super Bowl a year ago, 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: and the Niners have the twelfth pick, So it's not 82 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: like you're talking about a team with you know, the 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, the thirtieth to thirty second pick. I mean, 84 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, both these teams are contenders, but contenders that 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: have high picks to deal. So Miami and San Francisco 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: are two teams that I think logically would make sense. 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: People have mentioned the Jets. I do think that, you know, 88 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: just from a business standpoint, there's you know, some appeal 89 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: that I think from a football standpoint it might be 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult because they're a little further 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: away than the Dolphins or Niners are. So those would 92 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: be the three teams that I that I would start with. 93 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: And you know, the truth is Dan, I mean like 94 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: I would think, you know, half the league would be 95 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: interested into Shaun Watson. And I think what you've seen 96 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: over the last you know, a couple of weeks with 97 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: this idea that there's gonna be a lot of quarterback movement, 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: there's a Mahomes effect going on in the NFL right 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: now where teams are looking at it and say, okay, like, 100 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: what's it going to take that position for me to 101 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: win over the next five to ten years? And it 102 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: used to be that you could win with maybe the 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: tenth best quarterback the twelfth best quarterback in the league. 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: The Ravens won a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco. The 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: Seahawks won with Russell Wilson before he really became Russell Wilson. 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: I think teams were looking at it now and saying, 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's possible anymore. And that's why 108 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: you have teams like the Rams and the Niners and 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: the Raiders who've invested in young quarterbacks that are looking 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: at these sorts of things. So if Watson were to 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: become available, and I think that, you know, all the 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: teams we've mentioned would be interested, but then there would 113 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: be teams that have sitting quarterbacks that would look at 114 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: it too. What if Houston said to Jacksonville, will give 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you Deshaun Watson straight up for the number one overall 116 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: pick hypothetically. I love the idea because urban Meyer has 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: really strong background with Deshaun Watson, Like you know, he 118 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: recruited him hard to Ohio State. And I think if 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, if you asked Deshaun Watson about it, like 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: if he hadn't gotten to Clempson, he would have gone 121 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: to Ohio State, So I think, you know, for urban Meyer, 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: there might be a little bit of an element of 123 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Shahn Watson being the one who got away. There are 124 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: reasons why it wouldn't happen, though, too. I mean, I mean, 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: for one thing, Trevor Lawrence is, you know, a generational prospect. 126 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: So I mean you're talking about like a generational prospect 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: and a well established top five quarterback. So what are 128 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: your tie breakers when you're looking between the two. One 129 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: guy's twenty five, the other guy's twenty one. Well, Trevor 130 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence would be on a rookie contract. And also, if 131 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: you're Jacksonville, you're sort of helping a rival in a 132 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: very very much helping a rival get out of a 133 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: bad situation. So would the Texans look at that? I 134 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: think they absolutely would if they were pushed to the 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: point where they felt like they had to trade to 136 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. Would the Jaguars look at it? I think 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: that's a little bit if here, just because of those 138 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: two things, the rookie contract and that dynamic, and also 139 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: the fact that you'd really be helping out a division 140 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: rival and giving them a great answer in what seems 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: like an impossible situation. You know, there's a chance that 142 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence doesn't turn out to be this generational talent. 143 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I like, there's always this chance that it feels like 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: we've rubber stamped that he's going to be John Elway. 145 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no guarantees he could turn out to 146 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: be just a good quarterback, not generational. Here, well, let 147 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: me let me give you let me give you some 148 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: history though, Okay, Like I like talking to people who've 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time, like who are 150 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: paid to evaluate this? Four quarterbacks really, you know are 151 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: in that category, right, and this is over my lifetime 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: and I was too young to remember Elway, but it's 153 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: John Elway, Peyton Manning, Andrew Locke, and Trevor Lawrence. Look 154 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: at the second quarterbacks taken in those drafts, Okay, those 155 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: are the four that really like stick out, like sure 156 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: thing going to be a top five quarterback coming out 157 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: of college. The second quarterback taking an eighty three was 158 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: Todd Blackliche, the second quarterback taking a ninety eight was 159 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf, and the second quarterback taking in twenty twelve 160 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: was Robert Griffin. So I think that's sort of like 161 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: illustrates like when a guy has seen this way generally, 162 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good bet you're gonna get there. And 163 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: if you look at like who was the second quarterback 164 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: taken in their classes, it sort of illustrates like the 165 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: difference between one and another. You know, he's Albert Breer, 166 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: the Monday Morning Quarterback, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist. There. 167 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what Ben Roethlisberger's doing and the Steelers 168 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: that if Ben says it doesn't matter the money, is 169 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: that enough for the Steelers to take Ben back? Or 170 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: how much is this based off Ben's age, his health, 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and his performance last year down the stretch. I think 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: there are a lot of factors, not the least of 173 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: which that I think Ben, if he's self aware about 174 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: this and he's smart about this, he recognizes there could 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: be options for the Steelers out there where maybe we 176 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: don't have to go forward with Ben Roethlisberger this year. 177 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: You know, normally a quarterback holds all the cards. It's like, okay, well, 178 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: if you know, if it's not me, then who's it 179 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: going to be this year? Like with some of the 180 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that might get moved, like Matthew Stafford could get moved. 181 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: I believe Matthew Stafford could get move before the Super Bowl, 182 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: you know the Bowl. Yeah, I mean you see some 183 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: of the options out there. Okay, wait a minute, you 184 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: got a team in mind here, Albert, I don't have 185 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: a single team in mind, but I just can tell 186 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: you this, Dan the trademarket for Matthew Stafford over the 187 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: last week, and this is at Mobile and Mobile at 188 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Like, I think talks have really escalated 189 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: on Matthew Stafford, and I think it'd be smarter of 190 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: the Lions to do this now right like, because before 191 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: we know whether or not de Shaun Watson's going to 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: be available, before we know whether or not Sam Darnold's 193 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: going to be available, before we know whether or not 194 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: the Rams are going to move off after Jared Goff, 195 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: The Niners are going to move off with Jimmy Garoppolo, 196 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to move off with Derek Carr. 197 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Before we have any certainty on any of that, the 198 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Lions can get in front of it and say, here's 199 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: an ask, here's a quarterback that you can have right now, 200 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and you don't need to worry about where the rest 201 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: of the market goes and so you know, if you're 202 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: talking about supplying demand, this could be an offseason where 203 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: supply outweighs demand at quarterback, and so the Lions I 204 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: think are trying to get out in front of that. 205 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: They talk to different teams this week, and there are 206 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: some teams, Look, there's there are a few teams where 207 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: we know they're going to be aggressive it at quarterback 208 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: this offseason, right New England, Indianapolis, Carolina, Washington, all of 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: those teams. You know, I think, though I can't tell 210 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: you which one he's going to go to, but I 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: think the lines are of a mind to try and 212 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: get this done over the next week or so if 213 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: they can, the same way the Chiefs got Alex Smith 214 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: done really early in the offseason when they were offloading 215 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: him to make way for Patrick Mahomes because they feel like, 216 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: if we do it now, we'll get ahead of the 217 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: supply demand curve and we'll be able to maybe get 218 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: a first round pick plus something else. What are the 219 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Rams doing? I think the Ram So here's the analogy 220 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: on the Rams. The analogy on the Rams is where 221 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders have been and where the Niners have been, 222 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: which is we're not totally unhappy with our quarterback, but 223 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: our eyes are open for an upgrade. And you know, 224 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: like I've used this analogy, and I like, I hope 225 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: people get this because this is like a spot I 226 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: was in from a life standpoint, right at one point. 227 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: It's like being in like a month to month lease, 228 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: like right, So if you're in a month to month 229 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: lease and you're looking to buy, it's a great spot 230 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: to be in, right because you're you don't have pressure 231 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: to get out of your lease, Like my lease ends 232 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: date X, so now I got to find my next place. 233 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: After that. It's like I can kind of survey the 234 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: market and whether I want to do it this year 235 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: next year, we'll see, but I can kind of pick 236 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: my spot. And that's sort of the approach I think 237 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders have taken with Derek Carr since Gruden got there, 238 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: and I think the Niners are sort of getting there 239 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. And that's where I think the Rams are, 240 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, so I think if there's a if there's 241 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: an upgrade available, like they are going to look very 242 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: hard at it. And again, I think part of this 243 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: is that Mahomes effect that we're talking about, which is 244 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: can you win with the tenth or twelfth or fourteenth 245 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league anymore? I think some teams again 246 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: are looking at it and saying, I don't know if 247 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: we'll ever be able to get by Kansas City if 248 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: we don't have a top five, top seven quarterback. And 249 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you're Buffalo, you feel pretty good that 250 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen might be able to get there. If you're 251 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: the Chargers, you feel pretty good that Justin Herbert might 252 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: be able to get there. If you're This is why 253 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: the Texans like, if I'm the Texas, I'm doing everything 254 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I can to keep Deshaun Watson because it looks like 255 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: you are there, Like he may not be better, he 256 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: may not be as good as Mahomes, but you can 257 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: at least compete with Mahomes with that guy. And I 258 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: think you got these teams that are sort of on 259 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: that next tier down where it's like, are we ever 260 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna be good enough with Jared Goff? Are we ever 261 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna be good enough with Derek Carr? Are we ever 262 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: gonna be good enough with Jimmy Garoppolo. These are the 263 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: questions that I think are being asked, and so I 264 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: think the Rams are in that category with a team 265 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: like the Niners, with a team like the Raider. Why 266 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: instant that every quarterback who could be available is a 267 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: great fit for the Patriots. Well, I don't know, Like 268 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks agree with that though, I don't know. 269 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: But it feels this guy gonna be throw Who's this 270 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: guy gonna be throwing too? But it feels like every article, 271 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: everybody is a great fit for the Patriots, no matter 272 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: who it is. Yeah, Shan Watching great fit, Matthew Stafford, 273 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: great fit. It feels like everybody is a great fit, 274 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: but not everybody is a great fit for the Patriots. 275 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to go? There's the question? You know. Now, 276 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I do think there's some flexibility in what they do 277 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: scheme wise. Um, you know, Josh is shown he can 278 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: coach different types of quarterback. Didn't work with Cam this year, 279 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: but they had some success with you know, Matt Castle 280 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: way back, you know in two thousand and eight and 281 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen during Brady's suspension. You know, 282 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: they got Jacoby Brissette going and Jimmy Garoppolo going, and so, 283 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think there is you know a perception 284 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: that the coaching is so good there that they'll make 285 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: it work with whoever. And as long as it's a 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: good guy they're bringing in, and you know, by all accounts, 287 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford really good guy, Deshaun Watson a really good guy, 288 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: then people are going to see that player as a fit. 289 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't know how like attractive that situation 290 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: is to a quarterback right now. I mean, we saw 291 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: what happen with Cam, and part of that was Cam himself. 292 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: But like Dan, like you like, who are you throwing to? 293 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: You know? Like I just, I mean, I think the 294 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: page is gonna be very aggressive about going and fixing 295 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: the problem. But the question is how far they can 296 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: go in one offseason? How much better can they make 297 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: what was a completely broken situation in twenty twenty. I 298 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: didn't think there was a there there with Aaron Rodgers. 299 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: And then I've had, you know, people in your business 300 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: as NFL insiders who say that it's the worst kept 301 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: secret that Rogers and the Floor don't get along. And 302 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: you know Aaron, you know, I was told Aaron loves 303 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: to push buttons. He's passive aggressive, but you know, the 304 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers would be crazy to let him walk. 305 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: So if you were going to sum up what do 306 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: you think is happening or will happen with Aaron Rodgers. 307 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Do I think they trade him? No? Do I think 308 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: he won million percent? Knew what he was doing when 309 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: he said what he said on Sunday night. Absolutely, he 310 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: like this is sort of the way that Aaron operates, 311 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, And you know, I think it was a 312 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: message to the Packer front office. I have to be 313 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: operating with a with a sense of urgency here because 314 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't have very much time left and I want 315 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you to act with the same sense of urgency. And 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: these guys don't live in a vacuum, you know. I mean, 317 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Aaron's looking around too. And look at the other three teams, right, 318 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: what do they do in the last offseason? Well, you know, 319 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: the Bills went and got Josh Allen, Stephan Diggs. The Bucks, 320 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, they bring in Tom Brady. They've already got 321 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and Ronald Jones and oj 322 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Howard and cam Bray. What do they do? They add Gronkowski, 323 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: they add Shady McCoy, they add Leonard Fournette, so and 324 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: then you and then of course, you know, you look 325 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: at the Chiefs and how aggressive they've been, you know, 326 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: over the last three years, putting weapons around Patrick Mahomes 327 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: and so I think, as much as anything else, my 328 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: read at least is that it was a warning shot 329 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: to the front office, like, I know we've got cap issues. 330 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: I know like that you spend a couple of years 331 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: ago on defense, but time is running out and I 332 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of time left. I'm going 333 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: to be thirty eight years old next year. I want 334 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: you to operate like the Chiefs have, like the Bills have, 335 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: like the Buccaneers have, and so yeah, I don't think 336 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: they trade them, but if they're not more aggressive on 337 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: this offseason in putting the team together, then I certainly 338 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: could see a scenario where you know, he's pretty upset 339 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: by that, and who knows what happens after that. Have 340 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: a great weekend, NUMBERT. We appreciate your time as always. 341 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Thank you awesome, Thanks Dan, have a great weekend. That's 342 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks Senior NFL reporter, lead 343 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: content strategist. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 344 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 345 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox 346 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan Patrick 347 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 348 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f 349 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: s R or stream us live on the Peacock Act. 350 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: He's the Hall of Fame head coach NFL on Fox 351 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: analyst Jimmy Johnson back on the program. Morning, Jimmy, How 352 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: are you man? How are you doing? Hadn't talking in 353 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: a while? What times you get up today? Active? Four thirty? 354 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I get about four thirty every morning. Did you get 355 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: up that early when you coached? Yep, about four thirty, 356 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: five o'clock. I was into office bout five thirty almost 357 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: every morning. What can you accomplish? I guess there's nobody 358 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: there where you know? You That pretty helps. Yeah, it's interesting. 359 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: You know. I always like to go in the office 360 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: for a couple hours prior to my staff meeting to 361 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: kind of go over the what I wanted to do, 362 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, talk about in the staff meeting, what we 363 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: had to accomplish that day, etc. And then I hired 364 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Norv Turner is my second year in Dallas, and so 365 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: you know, I go in about five thirty and Norv's 366 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: already there. You know, I didn't like that at all. 367 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I didn't like somebody. It disrupted my whole day. And 368 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: so the next morning I go in about five fifteen, 369 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Norvs there and then about you know, I tried about 370 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: four or forty five and Norv was there. I said, hey, 371 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have to stop this. Now, We're 372 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: not gonna get any sleep at all. Let's let's make 373 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: a back. You know, I still come in at the 374 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: same time. At least Chuck nor famously told his assistance 375 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: to go home, like you have families, go home, you know. 376 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Dick Vermeil would you know, sleep over at the office 377 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: when he was coaching. How has coaching changed or is 378 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: it still that you're gonna be here to eleven or 379 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: twelve at nine? It just really depends on the situation. 380 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: For instance, I was in charge of personnel and so 381 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: and I talked to urban Meyer about this before he 382 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: talk to Jacksonville job. I said, you know, if you're 383 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: going to really use your expertise, you're gonna have to 384 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: be in charge of personnel. And so that's gonna be 385 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: a twelve month out of your job. It's around the 386 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: clock job. If you're doing coaching and personnel now, and 387 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: so that's the way it was for me. Now. The 388 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: one thing that I did do, even though I went 389 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: in the office really early every morning, I would purposely, 390 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, go home about ten o'clock at night, because 391 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: I know, as long as I was staying there, my 392 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: assistance were going to stay there, and I didn't want 393 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: him to stay there doing busy work just because the 394 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: head coach was still in the office. So I made 395 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: a point to leave the office by ten o'clock at night. 396 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: Did you try to talk irban Meyer out of the 397 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Jacksonville John, No. Actually, we had a couple of conversations 398 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: when Texas was trying to hire him, and I wanted 399 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: to compare college coaching and professional coaching, which he had 400 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: never done, and I told him, I said, if you 401 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: think college coaching is a grind, hey, professional coaching is 402 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: a completely different world. In college, you know, you've even 403 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: though you got recruiting, you've got a family life, if 404 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: you've got a social life, you can actually go play 405 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: golf in the off season. You know, you've got time 406 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: to yourself. I said, if you're going to be in 407 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: charge of personnel, which you should be, because he knows 408 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: all the college players. I said, if you're gonna be 409 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: in charge of personnel as well as the head coach, 410 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have any time for family, for social 411 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: for anything. And then there aren't coaches that could delegate. 412 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: And you know they made a point of going home, 413 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: like you say, you know, Dick for meal or some 414 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: of the rest of them. But that wasn't my personality. 415 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: If there was work to be done, I was going 416 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: to be there. How close do you think it was 417 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: for Urban to take that Texas job? He debated on it, obviously, 418 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: on University of Texas is a you know, it's a 419 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: premier job. But I told him, I said, you know, 420 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: I had a chance to go to Texas myself leaving 421 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: the University of Miami. I said, but you know, I 422 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: love living in Miami, and so I didn't do it. 423 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, he had already accomplished so 424 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: much in college football at Ohio State and in Florida. Yeah, 425 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think the lure of Texas meant 426 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: as much to him as what it might have been 427 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: to somebody else. You famously came up with the draft 428 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: chart where you know, the the you assessed a value 429 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: of where you were picking in the draft or what 430 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: draft picks were worth. Does that still hold up now? 431 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: And if so, let's look at Deshaun Watson and what 432 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: would you want in return if you're the Texans to him? Well, 433 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: the one thing about the draft chart, and I've talked 434 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: to a bunch of people about this, you really can't 435 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: put a player into the draft chart because you don't 436 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: know the value of the player. The draft chart is 437 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: really for picks versus picks. Okay, if you're in the 438 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: first round, you you want to move up, you trade 439 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: a third rounder and swap number ones, et cetera, et cetera. 440 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: So it put a value on all of the picks. 441 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: But Al Davis and I talked about this. You know, 442 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: he wanted to do it, you know, with players. I said, Al, 443 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: you can't do it with players. You don't know the 444 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: value of a player. And he said, you know the 445 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: thing about it. And after I did the chart, I 446 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: studied all the other teams and I studied all of 447 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: their trades, and he was all over the map as 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: far as the value of picks. And I asked him, 449 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know, there's some teams like the forty 450 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: nine ers. They were right along the line, and I 451 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: talked to them about it. They didn't have a chart, 452 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: but they studied it, and so they had a little 453 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: bit of an idea. And Al was just everywhere and 454 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: he said, you know, I'm a I'm a personnel guy. 455 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a value guy. He said, if I want 456 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: a player, I don't care how much it takes, I'm 457 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna go get that player. And so I'll overpay for players. 458 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: He said, you won't. You know, you're a value guy, 459 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: and if they're asking too much, you'll move on to 460 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: the next player. But anyway, with the chart, you only 461 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: use it for picks. What would you give up or 462 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: what would you want for Deshaun Watson. If I was 463 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: head coach David Culley, I would go and knock on 464 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: Watson's door and I'd have me a couple of michalobultros 465 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: and I'd say, listen, let's work this thing out somehow, 466 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: some way. I mean, I had I had a similar situation, 467 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, when I was at Dallas. You know, Troy 468 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: Aikman didn't like me a whole lot that first year 469 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: because I drafted Steve Walsh. But I drafted Steve so 470 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I could trade him later and get some picks, which 471 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: I got a one, two and a three for him. 472 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: And I had to walk a tight rope between the 473 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: two players because I didn't want to diminish the value 474 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: of Walsh and so I couldn't play favoritism, you know, 475 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: with either one of them. So Troy didn't like that 476 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: at all. Well, after I traded Steve, I went and 477 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: knocked on Troy's door and we sat down and we 478 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: got to work in and I actually set up a 479 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: tropical fish tank for him. So if I'm Cully, I'd 480 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. You know, Hey, forget about pride, 481 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: forget about ego. You go on set with Watson and 482 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: somehow worked it out. Hey, we can make this thing 483 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: work right here. With the Texans, we had Troy on 484 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: last week and Troy told us the story again about 485 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: that NFC title game where he got concust he was 486 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: in the hospital, he said, I still don't remember the game, 487 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: but he played in the Super Bowl week later, Jimmy 488 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: and did not play as well as Troy can play. 489 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: We struggled. I think he might have thrown an interception 490 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: in the first half. You know, we struggled the first half, 491 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: and we went into the locker room at halftime. I 492 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: think we may have been down or you know, it 493 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: was a tight game, and I told the guys. I 494 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: grabbed the offensive line in Emmon, I said, we're gonna 495 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: go back out there. And I said, Emma, do you 496 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: get ready. Yeah, I'm not gonna give you a breather. 497 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna pound him. We're gonna run the football. We 498 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: went out there and run the power. Emma touched the ball, 499 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, like every play except one in that particular drive, 500 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: and we took the league. Troy was not at his 501 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: best because of the concussion, so you realize that, and 502 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: that's where you said to the offensive line and Emmett, 503 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this. We gotta win it this way. 504 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: We can't rely on Troy. And you know, we were 505 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: number one in the league in defense too, so you 506 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: know that had a lot to do with it. But 507 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: we ran the power. You know, we're pulled big old 508 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: Nate Newton and leading him and right up on the 509 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: right side. We ran the power four or five times 510 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: and take it right down the field and scored and uh, 511 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, and Troy in the last game of the year. 512 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: He didn't play. I think the last game of the year, 513 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: Bernie Cozar came in there and helped us, you know, 514 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: helped us beat San Francisco, and so Troy was not 515 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: at his best, you know, because of that concussion. How 516 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: would you coach differently or would you coach differently if 517 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: you were coaching now in the NFL. The league would 518 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: make me coach differently. I mean, we were in pads 519 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: and we were scrimmaging Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. You know, 520 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: we never went in shorts. You know, we never went 521 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: in shells. We were in pads. So the league would 522 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: make me, you know, change the way I coach. And 523 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: that's a difficult thing, you know, because if we were 524 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: in shorts in a practice, I was bored. I wanted 525 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: to I wanted a physical football team. So I would 526 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: have us in a physical type of workout as much 527 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: as it's allowed. And so that would be the big 528 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: thing for trying to be a little bit more physical. 529 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: That's why you see such poor tackling now in the game, 530 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: because they don't tackle in practice, so they don't have 531 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: contact in practice. And I've talked to a bunch of 532 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: trainers around the league. We did a little bit of 533 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: a study getting ready for the Fox Show, and half 534 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: a dozen of the trainers said, because there's not contact 535 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: in practices. He says, that really leads to more injuries 536 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: because players don't know how to fall, players are not 537 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: expecting contact, players don't protect themselves, and really, the more 538 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: contact you have, in their opinion, the fewer injuries you're 539 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna have, especially the early I know. I talked to 540 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: the trainer in Jacksonville and he had Tom mas Lensky 541 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: heat played for me in Dallas, and he said it 542 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: takes a couple of weeks of contact with players before 543 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: they get accustomed to the game speed, and so not 544 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: having contact in practice, I think it really hurts the team. 545 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: But don't tell these players that, because these players are 546 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, you know, let's legislate rules to where 547 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: we gonna have any contact. Is the greatest quarterback of 548 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: all time should have come down to the number of 549 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowls you win? Yeah, Tom Brady is the greatest 550 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: quarterback of all time. But if I said you had 551 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: to face a quarterback, or let's say you had to 552 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: start a franchise, there's no question you're starting your franchise 553 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady over no, no, no, no, okay, there's 554 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: no question I'd started with. The greatest quarterback of all 555 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: time is Tom Brady because of his record, his Super 556 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: Bowl wins. The most talented quarterback I've ever seen is 557 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is unbelievable what he can do. 558 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he can do it all. He can 559 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: make all the throws. You know, he has such a 560 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: feel for the game, he has such vision, and he's mobile. 561 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, Patrick Mahomes the most talented quarterback I've seen. 562 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: But the greatest quarterback of all times Tom Brady because 563 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: of what he accomplished. But if you said you had 564 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: to face a quarterback game on the line, the quarterback 565 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to face in a one game elimination 566 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: is who all Patrick Mahomes. But but let me cushion 567 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: that a little bit. Okay, I would take either. I 568 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: would face either quarterback depending on their supporting cast, which 569 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: every one has. The both of them can beat you, 570 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: both of them can win. But who has the best 571 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: supporting cast, who has the best defend You know, we 572 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: talked about our Dallas teams. Everybody talked about the trap please. 573 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: And the triplets were the first to go in the 574 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but they overlooked that we were number 575 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: one in the NFL total defense. Yeah. Now, eventually Charles 576 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Aley went into the Hall of Fame. But it's a 577 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: team game, Dan, and as great as those quarterbacks, you know. 578 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: You know. I talked to Troy our second year he 579 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: had hurt his shoulder. We would have made the playoffs. 580 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: He didn't make the Pro Bowl, and I said, I'm sorry, Troy. 581 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I tried to get you in the Pro Bowl. You know, 582 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: he said, Coach, just keep supporting, you know, bringing you know, 583 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: my supporting cast. It's keep bringing me players. I'll go 584 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: to plenty of Pro Bowls. I thought you were gonna 585 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: say Montana or Elway. Did they win as many Super 586 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: Bowls as ready? No? No, like starting a franchise. Oh no, 587 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: I said Patrick Mahomes. I know, but I thought you 588 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: might have gone Elway or Montana to start a franchise 589 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: over Patrick Mahomes. I think Patrick Mahomes more talented be 590 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: either one of those two. Like I said, he's the 591 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: most talented quarterback I've ever seen. Yeah, I don't know 592 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: if he's more talented than this. My opinion. I think Elway, 593 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, is as maybe the most talented quarterback I've 594 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: ever seen, and that goes back to the late late sixties. 595 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: But how are we going to solve this time? We're 596 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: not over some mic Ultras. Tell me, tell me what 597 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: you're doing with Mick Ultra with the super Bowl? Willie. 598 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: You know, Michael has got a really cool commercial super Bowl. 599 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: It's you know, are you happy because you win? Or 600 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: do you win because you're happy? And it brought up 601 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: a point to me. I said, you know, I'm a 602 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: much better coach, you know, when I'm upbeat and positive 603 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: and happy. I did a much better job there. And 604 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: it's always really a cool commercial. And plus, you know, 605 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: just ninety five calories and two point six carbs. It 606 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: keeps me slim and drill. If it made my hair 607 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: look like yours, then I would definitely drink it. Definitely drink. 608 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: But you've got Serena's in it, h Peyton Mannings in 609 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: the commercial? Are they they involved in this? I've got 610 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: to recollect the cool people that covers it. About it though? Yeah, 611 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: why aren't you in it? And well let's let's talk. Uh, 612 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: it's always great to talk to you. I hope you're 613 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: in good health, good spirits, and thanks for joining us. 614 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: As always, Jimmy, well, when you're happy, you win there. 615 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 616 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 617 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 618 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 619 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 620 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: Peacock app. He's Kevin Miles, the actor. He's Jake from 621 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: State Farm. He joins us. Now, Kevin, let's get right 622 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: to it. Since you've been looking a little bit more 623 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: buff than ever. Are you taking performance enhancing drunk? Absolutely not, no, no, no, no. 624 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: I've been doing ninety x three. I mean I've been 625 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: doing that for years with Tony Horton and working out 626 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: with those guys at his place, and I mean they're 627 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: just they're just beasts. They're they're believe it or not. 628 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: Even though he's in his sixties, he's way leaps and 629 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: bounds stronger than me. And I just take note from him. 630 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: Really now, I mean, I'm asking on behalf of Aaron 631 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. They've been on the last you know, 632 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I've had him both on separately, 633 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and you know, Mahomes said he might put in his 634 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: contract do you have to wear a long sleeve shirt 635 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: from now? You used to wear the long sleeve shirt 636 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Kevin a sweater, And all of a sudden, we unleashed 637 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: the guns. So this is how they never start. This 638 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: is how they start. That was definitely a wardrobe and 639 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: everyone there. I mean, then again, we were shooting in Austin, 640 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: so I think we were going through a heat wave 641 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: and I mean it was one hundred and thirty degrees, 642 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: so I was appreciative of the shirt. But uh yeah, yeah, 643 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: they put that medium on and you know, really kind 644 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: of let some things pop out. So I was, you know, 645 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: it could have been nervous. So they gave me some confidence. 646 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: They're like, hey man, you look good. I was like 647 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: really like yeah. I was like all right, then, all right, 648 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: let's go out there. All right. So yeah, but it 649 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: looks like you got a s medium on like that 650 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: that shut Hey. Yeah, I normally wear a large extra large, 651 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: and that was definitely a medium. Uh but but you know, 652 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: it was right in the middle of U quarantine. So 653 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: those were my workouts. Where I was, Uh, you know, 654 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: telling myself, you know, why don't I just lift as 655 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: heavy as I can? You know, I just have weights here. 656 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a treadmill or or a bike or 657 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: anything to get the lean cardio going. Did you party 658 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: pump before going on camera? No? No, but I did 659 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: work out right after. I'm I'm a night workout person. 660 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I definitely can't really work out in the morning unless 661 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: i'm and unless I know, I have a very full 662 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: day and then and then it's like all right a 663 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: half to so that way I can sleep and then 664 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: wake up the next day. How many people auditioned for 665 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: Jake from State Farm? Oh? Wow, yeah, they Uh, they 666 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: told me that they auditioned people in New York, LA 667 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: and Chicago. I was in the LA group, and I 668 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: remember there was there was a good amount of people 669 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: for the audition, but the callback there were I mean 670 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: there were like forty or fifty people there at that callback. Uh, 671 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: some really solid actors that even I'm I'm a fan of, 672 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, and I was definitely really nervous going in 673 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: just because you know, you see these actors that you 674 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: you admire and you've seen before going in for this 675 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: role and you know, you're just like, oh crap, I 676 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: know they're great. Okay. These famous actors are just sort 677 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: of well known in the acting community. I think, well 678 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: known the acting community. You know. It's not like Leonardo 679 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: DiCaprio winning, Let me pack up and go, you know, 680 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: I feel you just have him do this. Um but 681 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: uh yeah, there were some really really good heavy hitters. 682 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: And I I really just think that I just happened 683 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: to test well with the focus groups. Um and and 684 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I always wanted to make it 685 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: something that felt close to me, close to who I am, 686 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: you know. And and at least from the spots that 687 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: I was auditioning, I didn't know it would be you know, 688 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: maybe a hundred commercials. I thought maybe it was two spots. 689 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: How did you change? Uh, my schedule is definitely very packed. 690 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: Um that That's pretty much that and uh, not nothing else. 691 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the best thing is that, you know, 692 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: when I'm approached out in public, you know, uh, it's 693 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: it's all good energy and that helps you know, it's 694 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: not like I came out and was a villain. You know, 695 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: people know me as me pretty much. And uh, and 696 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: that's pretty much that you know people where a red 697 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: shirt out in public. No, no, no, I do my 698 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: best to just keep it um, to keep it me. 699 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: I tend to wear a lot of all black sometimes, 700 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: you know. Um, and you know some graphic teas that 701 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: my friends have made. You know, I'm very very low 702 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: like that. I love the pandemic specifically because of the sweatpants, 703 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: you know that that we're all kind of rocking these days. 704 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: A better actor between the two Rogers or Mahomes, Um, 705 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: I think Rogers is very seasoned. So my Homes has 706 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: a phenomenal confidence on set, you know. So he's very 707 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: comfortable and oh we're doing this, we can play around 708 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: and do this. But I mean, Aaron, he's a He's 709 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: a champion for sure. I was actually shocked, you know. 710 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: It was more like a Wow, you're really good, you're 711 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: making great choices. You're you're giving me things to play 712 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: with that I didn't know we were going to do 713 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: with the scenes. So, I mean, I he's all around 714 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: just just phenomenal. So he does great. I think you 715 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: can see it in the commercials. I mean he's he's 716 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: just on point, he's just right there. He's dropped into 717 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: the moment and Yeah, he's great. He's how nervous, were you? Uh? 718 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: I was? I was half and half nervous. I think 719 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: I only get nervous after the fact, you know that 720 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna choose, you know, for 721 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: the final edits of the cuts. In the moment, I'm 722 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: more so just trying to make sure that I just 723 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: do a good job, give some takes, you know, make 724 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: sure I don't waste everyone's time and h and mess 725 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: everything up. That's that's pretty much me. So yeah, I 726 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: wasn't really nervous. I was just I was more excited 727 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: and ready, you know, ready to act with these guys 728 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: and ready to do something fun and just you know, 729 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: relate and make it our own. If the Packers were 730 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, who would you 731 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: be rooting for? That's a that's a question I never 732 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: even asked myself. Hy those I love those guys, man, 733 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: I U I genuinely couldn't say I'd be happy for both. Uh. 734 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: Aaron to me is is like like Uncle Aaron. You 735 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: know he's good guy. You talk about talk about Halo together. 736 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't knock a guy that 737 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: loves playing Halo, you know, and uh, Patrick, you know, 738 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: we're closer to age, and he just feels like my 739 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: my brother. So it feels as if I hate to 740 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: see any of them not winning championship. They're both champions 741 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: and and I mean even when they listening to them 742 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: talk to each other on set, you can just know 743 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: like their dedication to the game is so great that 744 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: I want them to win. You know, they are the MVPs, 745 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: and yeah, I man, I want them to get I 746 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: both want them to have that trophy. I can't lie 747 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: if there is there a downside as an actor that 748 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: you get a role like there's there's there's a great upside. 749 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: But now you're Jake from State Farm, and I know 750 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: you've been in other commercials and you have I'm sure 751 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: goals to be in movies or TV shows, right, Any 752 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: any concerns about being Jake from State Farm as a downside? Um, 753 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: I personally don't have any concerns. I know that there's 754 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: other people, you know, they they'll say you'll get stuck. 755 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: But I think it's a new day and age for entertainment. 756 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Uh in a sense, you know, there's a lot of 757 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: social media stars that are able to break out from 758 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: doing skits online just because people are familiar with them. 759 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: I come from a theater background anyway, so doing Jake 760 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: it's so close to me. I'm not trying to play 761 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: a caricature of anything, you know, I'm just trying to 762 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: make it where it's me always talking to my best 763 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: friend or my family member. And I think from there, 764 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: I can you know, put that inside of the roles 765 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: as well as when I grow as an actor and 766 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: I really kind of, you know, really mold myself and 767 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: get better just on film, I think that I'll be 768 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: able to branch out and do things that you know, 769 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: do do the works that I that I love or 770 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, I want to pursue at the time. So 771 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 1: I think it's actually more about helping like a stepping stone, 772 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: you know. I don't know, if you hang out with 773 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: the other insurance people like Flow, like like doctor Rick, 774 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: if you if you see them like you guys, is 775 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: there a little fraternity there? You know. I've never seen 776 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: them before out in public, but you know, I I 777 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: they all do a great job, so I wouldn't I 778 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind hanging out with them and talking and just 779 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, just just shooting from the hip, just what 780 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: life is like being one of the a spokesperson. You know, 781 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: flow Flow looks like she could be some fun. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 782 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: she she looks like she's definitely um. I think I 783 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: saw her one time at Groundlings, and I mean she 784 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: was just great. You know, she just seems like she's 785 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: living life and and enjoying doing the art and what 786 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: she wants to do. And that's definitely, you know, an 787 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: inspiration for any actors to to just keep going and 788 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: keep exploring and having fun with it, you know, not 789 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: being so tied in of I have to be this 790 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: or this or this. You know, everyone has their own 791 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: personal goals of what they want to be as an actor, 792 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: and I think that you should follow them and have 793 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,959 Speaker 1: fun with it. That's what we're supposed to do. Before 794 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: I say goodbye, Kevin, Let's see the gun show. Let 795 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: me give give me, give me both right arm? You 796 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: want left arm? Both? Okay? Okay, there you go, ye 797 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: right now. You know it's a little it's smaller, so 798 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: I gained some weight for for the NFL spots. I 799 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: wanted to make it. You know, look as if I could, 800 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, play a pickup game with these guys and 801 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: we you know, really we'd really do some damage. Uh. 802 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: And then for the NBA stuff, you know, I want 803 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: to be a little smaller, you know, leaner. Yeah, yeah, 804 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: just leaner, you know. Uh. Kevin, thank you. You're like 805 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: de Niro. You're like the de Niro of insurance, like 806 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: insurance commercials like you, you know, you know, whatever it 807 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: takes to play the role. I'm trying to be the 808 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: Christen Bale of these. So hey, uh, congrats on the success. Man. 809 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: Write it as long as you can, and we appreciate 810 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: your time. Thanks for your sense you humor, keV. Yeah, 811 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate you and I love what you do. You're amazing. 812 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, Kevin Miles. That's uh Jake 813 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: from State Farm. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 814 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 815 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 816 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 817 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 818 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 819 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: searching f s R, or stream us live on the 820 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: Peacock app. He is the by to the Chargers back 821 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: Home in Oregon. Justin Herbert back on the program justin 822 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. How are you? Thanks for having 823 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: me again. Good to be here. How are you guys doing. 824 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: Are you in your old bedroom, your bedroom you had 825 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: when you were in grade school in high school? No, 826 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually in the family room I've been saying in 827 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: my old house, but not there right now. Oh okay, 828 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: So there's trophies and posters in the old bedroom. I 829 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: think those might be taken down. You just moved out 830 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 1: and they took all your stuff and put it in boxes. Yeah, 831 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: it's crazy. No, they've been a good job my room together, 832 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: so it's not too bad. All right. I got a 833 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: test for you. I got a job for you. I 834 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: want you to take away one defender that you would 835 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: not want to face from Kansas City in Tampa. So 836 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: you played them both. Give me the one guy if 837 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: I said you have the power to remove him from 838 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: the lineup when you face him, who would that guy be? 839 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: With Kansas City, I'd probably Tyran Matthew and then Lavonte 840 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: david Ooh, now let me start with Tyron Matthew. Why him? 841 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: He just makes plays wherever he is on the fields. 842 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: He's fast, he's smart, and he's one of those guys 843 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: you have to look out for and coverages, blitzes, and 844 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: he's able to do everything. But when you look at 845 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: game film or when you're you're game planning for the Chiefs, 846 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: like what were you trying to take advantage of? Like 847 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: if you're Brady, what would you be looking to try 848 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: to do? We just have to take what we were given. Um, 849 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: you had to take a positive yard. If if you're 850 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: hitting a checkdown for five yards or you're getting a 851 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: run for four yards, that's great. You need to be 852 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: able to move the ball and you need to be 853 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: able to convert on third down. You can't stay behind 854 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: the sticks and so that's one of those things that 855 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: we try to do and ultimately we weren't good enough 856 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 1: when we played against him. So it's it's just something 857 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: you got to keep practicing, get better at the Okay, 858 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: why Lavonte David out of the Buccaneers lineup and just 859 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: how fast he is and how athletic and how he's 860 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: able to make plays on the ball and pass virgin 861 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: and stopping the run. Um, it was really impressive to watch. 862 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: So what if you're Mahomes would you try to take 863 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: advantage of? That's that's a great question. UM, I think 864 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: that's one of those things. I guess we're gonna have 865 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: to wait and see you in the Super Bowl. Well wait, 866 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: what did you try to take advantage of? Um? We 867 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: just kind of looked at some of the coverages they 868 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: played and tried to get some plays that were known 869 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: to work against some of those. Um. You know, obviously 870 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: we we didn't end that win that game either, so 871 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: we could have been better. But there's just a lot 872 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: of route coverages that that maybe you can play against 873 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: certain coverages, and so it's one of those things you 874 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: have to watch a lot of film on and get 875 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: a good beat on. I understand you don't want to 876 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: name names. You know, you don't want to give any 877 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: game plans out and you don't want to face them 878 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,439 Speaker 1: again and then have them say, oh so I heard 879 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: you said you wanted to you can take advantage of this, 880 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: So I don't want you to get in trouble. Okay, 881 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But you know, Shack Barrett is pretty impressive. 882 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: Like Tampa. We don't talk about Tampa's defense because of 883 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: Brady Um, but that defense is what that's that's what 884 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: they won their last two games because of their defense. 885 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: I think they're incredible. I think they've got a lot 886 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: of guys up front. I think they've got some really 887 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: good safeties. I think all across the board, they've got 888 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: guys and um, you know, they've they've got a great 889 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: coach that that puts them in a great position to win. 890 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: And when you got a great coach like that in 891 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: athletic good defenders, I think you're gonna have a great defense. 892 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: We're talking to Justin Herbert, the Chargers quarterback. We talked 893 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: to your new head coach, Brandon Staley. Do you know 894 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: that he played quarterback at my university, University of Dayton. 895 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: Were you aware that he was a quarterback? Justin? I 896 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: actually saw some film of him throwing the ball and 897 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed he was able to sling it around. 898 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: So that was that was cool to see. He said 899 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: that when he was coming back from the press conference, 900 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: you were I think the first call that he made 901 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: when he was in the car, Well, that's, uh, that's 902 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: awfully nice of him. I didn't he didn't. He didn't 903 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: let me know that, but uh, you know, we've talked 904 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: quite a bit over the phone, and just excited to 905 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: get to really meet him in person, and I've only 906 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: heard great things about him, so it's gonna be a 907 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: great opportunity to work with him. How would you recap 908 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: some up your first year if somebody didn't see it 909 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: and you were going to explain to them how you did, 910 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: what would you say? That's a great question. I would 911 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: say I learned a lot. Obviously a tough year, not 912 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: the year that we wanted. I would have loved to 913 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: have won a couple more games, but I'm so proud 914 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: of the way that guy's battled and especially after losing 915 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: forty five to zero at home against the Patriots, we 916 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: turned around and go win four in a row. And 917 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm not an NFL expert yet, but usually that doesn't happen. 918 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: And for that locker room that the guys put together, 919 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: I was really proud of him. What was different than 920 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: you expected? I think the speed of the game is 921 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: is probably the biggest difference, and I kind of expected 922 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: that knowing coming into this level, but you really have 923 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: to play through it to really understand how how fast 924 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: it really is. And you know, I could hear, oh, 925 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: justin it's gonna be so much faster for this and that, 926 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: But when you step out there and realize it's a 927 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: lot faster. And a couple of times when I dropped 928 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: back and I'd get too deep and you'd get some 929 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: pass rushers that just fly around. He had knocking the 930 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: ball out and you have to kind of go through 931 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: that to really understand that it's it's a whole different game. 932 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: What's the hit that you'll remember from your rookie season. 933 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: I think it was on the sideline against the Chiefs. 934 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: I was running out of bounds and I tried to 935 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: get the first down. I stayed in bounds and I 936 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: just collided with a linebacker and we both fell on 937 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: the ground. And that's one of those hits that you know, 938 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't do again. So I've learned from that one. 939 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: You know how to slide. You played baseball. You gotta 940 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: get out of bounds to live to see another play. 941 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: I know I got I was. I was getting yelled 942 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,479 Speaker 1: at all year about that, So I'll be better about 943 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: it next year. I've seen so many young quarterbacks who 944 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: want that extra yard and Jimmy Garoppolo or RG three, 945 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: and you just go get out of bounds like there's 946 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. You know what I have a 947 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: problem when a young quarterback can't get up, he gets 948 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: injured because he's trying to get that extra I shouldn't 949 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: be yelling at you. It sound like I'm your dad. 950 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be yelling at you, and I 951 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: go to your room. Justin, No, I get out of bounds. 952 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: It's okay. Nobody's gonna say, boy, justin Herbert's soft get 953 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: out of bounds. Yeah, it's really not worth it. No, 954 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: a couple of yards, get out of bounds and get down. Yes, 955 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: I gotta get you into the playoffs. I can't get 956 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: you in the playoffs if you're not playing. Okay, how 957 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: are the uniforms this year? Any any adjustments to the 958 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 1: Chargers uniforms? No? I thought they were great. I guess 959 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: from going from Oregon to the Chargers. Um. You know, 960 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: I've been pretty fortunate enough to have some pretty good 961 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: jerseys over the years, and I think the Chargers is 962 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: a great job. Yeah. I even ask you better or 963 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: uniform last time? You avoid the rush and didn't give 964 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: me an answer. But Chargers uniforms Oregon Duck uniforms. I 965 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: would probably say might since I played for the Chargers. Now, 966 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: my love is probably the chargers. Um, so I'd probably 967 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: be my answer. But I've always been super, super happy 968 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 1: and awesome to wear the Oregan uniform. Yeah, but there's 969 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,919 Speaker 1: so many different variations on the Oregon uniform that that 970 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: that light blue, that powder blue with the chargers, come on, 971 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: everybody looks good in that. That's tough to be Did 972 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: you get any autographs or jerseys this year with guys 973 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: you played against? Uh? No, we actually weren't allowed to. 974 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: It was one of our rookie rules where we weren't 975 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: really allowed to swap jerseys yet. Um, and so I 976 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: think that's something that's going forward, I'll be able to do. Well. 977 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: Who do you want? You don't face Brady next year? 978 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: Do you? I don't think so, I haven't. I haven't 979 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: checked the schedule yet. Oh no, you're gonna miss out 980 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: on eighty. Yeah, that would have been cool. I Nfortunately, 981 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: since I'm such a big NFL fan, I steel pretty 982 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: much anyone I go against. It'd be awesome to have 983 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: their jersey. So I'm happy with anyone. I guess we'll 984 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: have fun. And Eugene, are you can you walk around 985 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: town without people bothering you? Oh? Of course? Um, you know, 986 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: I think Eugene's a pretty small place and I don't 987 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: think too many people care too much about it, So 988 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: it's it's been awesome so far. Are you having a 989 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl party? Yeah, we'll be watching the super Bowl, 990 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: but um, I think I think we're gonna keep it 991 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: to pretty small, small amount of people. That makes sense. 992 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. By the way, do you root 993 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs they're in the AFC or can you 994 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: not root for the Chiefs because they're in the AFC 995 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: AFC West. That's a good point. I think I'm just 996 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: rooting for a good game. Um, it's a Super Bowl 997 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: and two great quarterbacks, two great teams, so it's it's 998 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: just gonna be a lot of fun to watch for me. Well, 999 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,240 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Congratulations again on a great ceason, 1000 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon. Thank you, justin, thank you, 1001 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. That's Justin Herbert, my Chargers. Thanks 1002 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 1003 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon 1004 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 1005 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 1006 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 1007 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching F s R, 1008 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 1: or stream US live on the Peacock app