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Speaker 1: really had a landing spot, and it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the move again, right, which makes me

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Speaker 1: wonder what's Carolina doing at eight? Now? They have they

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Speaker 1: have Darnald. They're at the Justin Fields Pro Day. I

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Speaker 1: mean they have their quarterback. You know how I well,

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Speaker 1: they think they do. But that you know what, I think,

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Speaker 1: draft six of those guys till you get one because

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Speaker 1: everything else is you got a fifty year option on Darnold.

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Speaker 1: You gotta pick up. You pick that up. He's your guy.

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Speaker 1: End a story. The money says it, Yeah, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but but it's only twenty three million. Yeah, he's your

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback twenty three million, and he's plays halfway decent

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Speaker 1: twenty three And I know it sounds great, but this

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Speaker 1: is the that's the age which we live. Twenty three

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Speaker 1: it's a bargain. Yeah, what are they paying Josh? This year?

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Speaker 1: But are you drafting somebody at eighth? Josh? Are you

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Speaker 1: drafting another quarterback at eight? If one is there? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Like you just traded for Darnold, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing. You gotta find your guy. I know that

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Speaker 1: you also got to help the guy that you just

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Speaker 1: traded for. It, let me tell you, don't I think

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Speaker 1: they got they got run DMC down there CMC. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they got they got some guys. They got a

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Speaker 1: couple of receivers, They got some guys. So I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: they're not the reft of talent down there, and they

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Speaker 1: got it. You know. Matt Rule is a I mean,

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Speaker 1: people love that guy. They're they're running through brick walls

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Speaker 1: for him. So I'm Robbie Anderson, I'm with you. But

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Speaker 1: we forget now, you know, don't forget you don't have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. You got nothing. Yeah, I understand that. I

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Speaker 1: just think there is you just traded for a guy

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Speaker 1: who was the third pick in the draft, who's only

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Speaker 1: going to be twenty four years old this season, has ability,

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Speaker 1: just needs a support system. Um, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you go right back to the well and take another

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Speaker 1: quarterback at eight if one is there. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: get it. I'm not gonna complain. I'm not gonna complain

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Speaker 1: if they do that, because that means that's one less

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Speaker 1: young quarterback in the AFC, Right, I get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna happen. I'm saying this. If

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Speaker 1: they can't rule it out there, if they have doubts, well,

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Speaker 1: if you had doubts, why the hell did you trade

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Speaker 1: for them, you know what I mean, Like, you just

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Speaker 1: gave up assets to get that guy. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to doubts. Doesn't mean you an upgrade, doesn't mean you

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Speaker 1: don't have doubts. And they had Teddy Bridgewater. They think, well,

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Speaker 1: Darnold's better. Okay, so we're gonna upgrade at least for this.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna get more out of him than that,

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Speaker 1: which which will lead to what two or three at

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Speaker 1: least more wins if we can get a little better

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Speaker 1: around him. Maybe it's now it's five or six more wins.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can get out of the top ten

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Speaker 1: of the draft, start winning some games. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's not about Darnald being the guy. It's a

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Speaker 1: just being a better guy. Yeah, I'm it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very compelling. It is. And I'm but I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm Atlanta and there's a guy there

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Speaker 1: that I think is gonna play and play, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking him. I don't care what Matt Ryan thinks he's

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Speaker 1: thirty six. That's way I feel about it. And that's

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Speaker 1: what I thought the Jets should have done. They should

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Speaker 1: have Darnald and get and get Zach Wilson. Anyway, one

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Speaker 1: of those guys should be able to play, and you

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Speaker 1: should be able to fix one of them. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: Salo could fix Sam Darnold. Then you got Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: You can say, hey, here's our guy. You know you

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Speaker 1: want to trade for him, give us a number one

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Speaker 1: it's the number two overall pick. And he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, he's still an asset.

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Speaker 1: And if Darnald is not the guy, okay, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can find your way to see them taking a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I just think, what do you want to be this year?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to be immersed in a quarterback controversy

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Speaker 1: all season long? Or do you want to try to

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Speaker 1: ride Darnald and see what you have and go that

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Speaker 1: way and try to give him all the tools to

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Speaker 1: help him succeed and use that eighth pick to give

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Speaker 1: him a premier player to help him on offense, whether

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Speaker 1: it's an offensive tackle to book end with Taylor Moten

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Speaker 1: who they're just franchised, or you know, they got dynamic,

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Speaker 1: dynamic tight end, they got Mackay Bell. Know you're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Jets now, not the PAM. I'm sorry, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about panthers. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm with you. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a conundrum. But do you do you

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Speaker 1: It depends on how sure you are about your guy. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna surround him and start building around him.

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Speaker 1: The Bills did it with Josh Allen. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: absolutely written the blueprint for how it got now. Josh

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Speaker 1: did his part. I mean, let's not Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: It's as much about Josh's work as it is also

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Speaker 1: coaching stability. You know, Star did not have that. All

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Speaker 1: of that stuff came together, and you know when you're

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Speaker 1: missing some of that or one of those things, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it causes problems. But when it boils down to is

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Speaker 1: you got a guy at the head coaching spot that

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Speaker 1: is on it and the GM is on it, and

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Speaker 1: you got a quarterback who went to the salt mines

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Speaker 1: and got his game in together. So you know, if

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Speaker 1: you can do that, pick your guy. We are going

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Speaker 1: to take a break here, but before we do that,

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Speaker 1: a good friend of the Instigators show, which is on

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Speaker 1: before us h Elliott Friedman is reporting that Jack Eichel

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Speaker 1: is officially out for the season. The word he is

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Speaker 1: reporting is that the Buffalo captain needs surgery and we'll

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Speaker 1: get it done soon so he can begin training in

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Speaker 1: preparation for next season. He will miss the remainder of

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Speaker 1: this year. That has Elliot Freedman reporting that just crossed

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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. So just wanted to bring that

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Speaker 1: to your attention to get you up to speed on that,

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Speaker 1: because I know there's been a lot of question marks

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Speaker 1: as to just what he's dealing with injury wise. It

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Speaker 1: looks like that injury will require surgery. He'll be missing

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Speaker 1: the rest of this season and is having surgery soon

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Speaker 1: so we can be ready for training camp next season.

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Speaker 1: We also want to mention our Twitter poll today, which

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Speaker 1: is as follows. Okay, we know the Bills are picking

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Speaker 1: at thirty and sixty one and we thought we'd throw

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Speaker 1: it out to you. Now, what positions do you think

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Speaker 1: the Bills are most likely to address with those top

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Speaker 1: two draft selections. You let us know at eighth three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty or on the tweet at One Bill's Life. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I back in a flash. We'll see in a second.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Task,

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Speaker 1: here's some free agency news coming down the pike. Here,

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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney signs a one year, ten million dollars deal

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Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. They had been courting him for

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Speaker 1: the better part of the last week, it seemed, and

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Speaker 1: he finally relented and took a one year, ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars deal. He played for twelve million dollars last year

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Speaker 1: for the Titans and was a colossal disappointment. Gave them

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Speaker 1: vers virtually nothing on their pass rush. Now, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you could drop Clowney into a better scenario

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Speaker 1: lining up opposite Myles Garrett. I mean, this guy should

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Speaker 1: have plenty of opportunities to make an impact. The question

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Speaker 1: is whether he will or not, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: He's far from dependable in my eyes. Steve Well, his

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Speaker 1: from the casual observer, which I'll just say I would

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Speaker 1: be one. He his motor doesn't run real fast. He's

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Speaker 1: a supremely gifted athlete. You stand next to that guy,

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Speaker 1: or talk to him, or see him on the field,

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Speaker 1: the guy stands out. He is a physical specimen that

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Speaker 1: is set apart. He does not play like that, and

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Speaker 1: that's why you know, I think that's not all. That's

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Speaker 1: the perception just because he's so physically imposing, it's hard.

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Speaker 1: It would be hard for him to live, you know,

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Speaker 1: not to be a disappointment. If he doesn't get a

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Speaker 1: sack every single time the guy drops back, that's how

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Speaker 1: how that guy looks. So having said that, the expectations

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Speaker 1: are probably a little high anyway, And I will say this,

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Speaker 1: his reputation for guys who study film and are objective

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Speaker 1: about it is the guys are really good run defender.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't rush the passer well, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of frustrating for fans. So yeah, so his production has

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Speaker 1: been very spotty in the last couple of stops. Didn't

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Speaker 1: do a ton for the Seattle Seahawks when they picked

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Speaker 1: him up, had a few good games here and there,

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Speaker 1: didn't like the world on fire, didn't kill it. And

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Speaker 1: then you know with Tennessee last year, not a whole

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Speaker 1: lot there. And yet this guy can still pull down

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Speaker 1: ten million a year. Um, I don't know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I know that some some NFL analysts are gonna be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Browns Super Bowl CONTENDERFC contender, and they had a really

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Speaker 1: good season last year. They went a long way, and

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Speaker 1: they should be. They could arguably be better this year

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Speaker 1: with a healthy O B. J. Rum. So I get it.

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Speaker 1: But to me, Clowney isn't to put you over the

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Speaker 1: top guy, even as talented as he is. No, he

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Speaker 1: is a he is a contributor. UM. I would say

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Speaker 1: the guy Miles Garrett is a put you over the

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Speaker 1: top ten guy that that guy can go. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's I'm with you. We saw it coming ten

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Speaker 1: million bucks. There's a lot of money. Yeah, good for them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: think we'll see what it gets him. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: suppose the guy can play. I mean he's not he's

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Speaker 1: not want to when he wants to, and and he

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Speaker 1: is consistently a really good run stop or so in

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Speaker 1: the in the um AFC North playing Baltimore twice, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have an effect on that game. Um, he'll have

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Speaker 1: an effect on that game. So I think that's a

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Speaker 1: It's good for the Cleveland Browns to see that and

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Speaker 1: and put that into their pile of assets. We can

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Speaker 1: say what we want about him in his lack of

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Speaker 1: pass rushing ability or desire or production anyway. Um, but

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Speaker 1: the guy does stuff the run, we'll see. So that's that.

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Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest free agent news in a while,

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Speaker 1: as the free agent market has died down considerably. Ten

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Speaker 1: million bucks, that's the biggest name in him. Why why

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Speaker 1: didn't the Browns just maybe the Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that any other teams are hard after maybe Clowney just said, listen,

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Speaker 1: if I don't get this number, I ain't playing at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. I've I've made this much money so far.

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Speaker 1: I was. You know, it's the third pick in the

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Speaker 1: draft overall or something, the first first pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's the kind of guy he is. So

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Speaker 1: he's the first guy picked over all in the draft.

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Speaker 1: You know, he got a ton of cash. He saw

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Speaker 1: the end of that contract in Houston, got another one, right,

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Speaker 1: and so you know. So that's that's the free agent landscape,

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Speaker 1: or at least the latest on it. And we wanted

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Speaker 1: to get to the tweet sheet because we want to

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Speaker 1: get some of your comments open lines for you at

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. What positions are the Bills most

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Speaker 1: likely to address with their top two picks? At picks

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Speaker 1: thirty and sixty one. Rusty Oh Yeah tweet sheet brought

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Rusty says defensive back is definitely

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Speaker 1: a top choice. They're currently lighted corner and safety on

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Speaker 1: dbs in the draft. Defensive end is also likely. They

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Speaker 1: need more at pass rusher to get home with a

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Speaker 1: front four dark horse wide receiver like Rondelle Moore as

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Speaker 1: a luxury pick to be our Tyreek Hill. Rondel Moore

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Speaker 1: is a speed guy. Rusty's obviously read a couple of articles.

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Speaker 1: He's right, I mean that, yeah, And he just echoed

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Speaker 1: what I said. They're a little bit light at corner

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Speaker 1: on safety. I get it. It's hard to get safeties

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Speaker 1: to sign a contract with the Bills and free agency

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Speaker 1: because they ain't getting on the field. Yeah, first of all,

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Speaker 1: And he's right that. I wouldn't be surprised if they

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Speaker 1: take more than one corner in this draft. They seem

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Speaker 1: to be pretty good at They seem to be really

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Speaker 1: good at drafting corners and finding corners who can play.

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Speaker 1: They've done on a number of occasions. They certainly can

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Speaker 1: find safeties as well. So yeah, that's that's a that's

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00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: a good call by Rusty's saying, you know, pass rusher, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: but corners and dbs. This this regime has been really

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Speaker 1: good at finding those guys that can play above their

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Speaker 1: projected status in the draft. So they did it with

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Speaker 1: Levi Wallace. Uh, they got some really good mileage after

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Speaker 1: they traded Ron Darby to bring in e. J. Gaines,

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Speaker 1: who they knew could play, and he did play very

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Speaker 1: well for him. Um, they've gotten some They tried to

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Speaker 1: get some contributions from some older guys well, like like

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Speaker 1: Vonte Davis. Uh and uh uh last year with Josh Norman.

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Speaker 1: But I think when they find young guy, Dane Jackson's

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Speaker 1: a perfect example. Levi Wallace is a perfect example. Tarn

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Speaker 1: Johnson's a perfect example. They've they've been that's some pretty

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Speaker 1: good luck with the guys they've signed him as youngsters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know they lost Dean Marlowe, who was a

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Speaker 1: depth guy at the safety position. He goes to Detroit

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Speaker 1: on a free agent deal after he doesn't resign here. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a perfect example of what you know, if you're here,

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Speaker 1: if Dean Marlow wants to play football, yeah, he's got

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Speaker 1: to leave. Yeah, if he wants to get on the field, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and all these guys do. I mean, you think about

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Speaker 1: the time that he did get on the field last

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Speaker 1: year he had with two fumble recoveries, including what proved

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Speaker 1: to be the game clinching takeaway in the win over

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. So yeah, so that's that's an issue. But

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Speaker 1: I and I think maybe the club sees that and

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Speaker 1: knows they're gonna if they want a guy to replace

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Speaker 1: Micah Hide, Jordan Poor, you're down the line, sooner or later,

680
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to draft him because nobody's gonna sign

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Speaker 1: here and they can get on the field in front

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Speaker 1: of those guys. And you know, they have Jaquan Johnson,

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Speaker 1: a former six round draft choice who they do like

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Speaker 1: a lot, and he contributes pretty heavily on special teams.

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Speaker 1: So rand Neil is kind of a hybrid defensive back

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Speaker 1: also a big special teams contributor. But you know, at safety,

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Speaker 1: aside from Hide and Poyer, it's Jaquan Johnson and basically

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Speaker 1: Josh Thomas, the undrafted kid from app State last year

689
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Speaker 1: who's still on the roster, so you got four safeties totals,

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Speaker 1: so you could make an argument for safety, maybe not

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Speaker 1: high in the draft, but certainly a little later on,

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Speaker 1: somewhere on day three perhaps. And then with respect to corners,

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Speaker 1: you know you've got Tradevius as we know, along with Levi,

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Speaker 1: Dan Jackson, as you mentioned, Tarn Johnson, the nickel cam

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Speaker 1: Lewis who's more of a nickel back up than anything else,

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Speaker 1: but has lined up outside on occasion. That's it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: sir rand Neil, where are you putting him if he's

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Speaker 1: listed as a corner? Fine, but he's more of a

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Speaker 1: nickel if he's going to be there. So so that's

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Speaker 1: that they are short there. So I could totally see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got what eight guys on the roster that are

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Speaker 1: listed just about well, not even well more than that.

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Speaker 1: They got nine guys. Now, defensive end is a different

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Speaker 1: conversation because they're heavily invested there in terms of dollars

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Speaker 1: and cents. But we do know that, and they've made

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Speaker 1: new additions, you know, in free agency, albeit what would

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Speaker 1: be termed minor ones in fa Obada, who they signed

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Speaker 1: away from from Carolina. But Mario Addison's entering his age

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Speaker 1: thirty fourth season. Jerry Hughes is entering the last year

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Speaker 1: of his contract. And those guys are a little long

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Speaker 1: in the tooth. And yes, you made j F and

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Speaker 1: SAP draft choice last year. Um, you know you're still

713
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Speaker 1: trying to bring Daryl Johnson along and now you have Obada.

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Speaker 1: These are the guys that are listed as the reserves.

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Speaker 1: Those two veteran Daryl Johnson gonna make the team because

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Speaker 1: he can play special teams. He's a big guy who

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Speaker 1: can run. Those guys are gold because you need special

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Speaker 1: teams contributions. And if you've got a guy like Darrel

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Speaker 1: Johnson who can play some defensive end and play well

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Speaker 1: at times and can play a multiple positions on special teams,

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Speaker 1: particularly on your core coverage teams and your return teams,

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Speaker 1: man that guy. You can't get rid of that guy

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Speaker 1: because you don't have to use up roster spots at linebacker,

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Speaker 1: at dB, a wide receiver and running back. You've got

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Speaker 1: a big dude who can run and cover kicks. It's

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Speaker 1: it's I can give you an extra roster spot at

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Speaker 1: wherever you want it, and running back, at wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: at a corner, at offensive any place you want. A

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Speaker 1: big guy who can cover kicks is really rare. Mark

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Speaker 1: Pike was that way back in the in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: He was a He was a matchup impossibility for teams

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Speaker 1: we played. So, uh, Darryl Johnson is going to be

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Speaker 1: on the on the club and if you switch out

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Speaker 1: fa Obada for Trent Murphy, you know, f F a

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Speaker 1: Obada is a really gifted at He's an an incredibly

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Speaker 1: gifted at. He's a little bit like Jadeveean Clowning, except

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Speaker 1: for his His issues are this. It's not that he's

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Speaker 1: his motor doesn't run hot or anything like that. Fa

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00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: Obada didn't grow up around the game, and it's still

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Speaker 1: something everything he has to learn. Everything about the game,

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Speaker 1: doesn't really he doesn't see it like a kid who

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Speaker 1: grew up doing it sees it. He's got a lot

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Speaker 1: to learn about instincts and that kind of thing, and

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00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: certainly there's the technical aspects of it as well. But

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Speaker 1: fa Obada is a guy that is you know, if

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Speaker 1: he was coming out of college now, yeah, he'd be

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00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: a high pick because of his athleticism. Just doesn't have

748
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Speaker 1: a lot of seasoning young in the game, right, I

749
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: mean he's I think he's really gonna be He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a help because he's got a fast motor and

751
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: he's a real athlete. I think I think this team

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00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: will get the most out of him. Break time for

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Speaker 1: us when we return. More your comments on the tweet sheet.

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00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: What positions are the Bills most likely to address with

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Speaker 1: their top two draft choices? Give us your thoughts Sat.

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Speaker 1: Three h five fifty or on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. Back in a moment here on one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll welcome back to one Bills Live. Sabers update. The

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00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Sabers have officially announced that Captain Jack Eichel is missing

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Speaker 1: the remainder of the season due to a herniated disc

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00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: in his neck. So the nature of the injury is

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00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: now confirmed and Ichael expected to be healthy and ready

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Speaker 1: to play at the beginning of the twenty one twenty

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00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: twenty two seasons. Sabers social media account does not mention

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Speaker 1: what Elliot Friedman did. Elliot Friedman is reporting that Ichel

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00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: will have surgery to fix that herniated disc. There is

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Speaker 1: no mention of that from the Sabers. So that's your

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Speaker 1: latest update on that front. There's also an update on

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Speaker 1: the Jadeveon Clowney contract with the Cleveland Browns. It's a

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Speaker 1: one year, eight million dollars deal with two million dollars

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Speaker 1: in incentives that could push it to ten million if

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00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: he reads you certain thresholds. Presumably you know, eight ten sacks.

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00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, he gets extra money. So smart on

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Speaker 1: the Browns to put some incentives in there to earn

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Speaker 1: an extra couple of million dollars, because I think that's

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Speaker 1: what you have to dangle in front of him to

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Speaker 1: get the most out of him. Quite right, he got

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Speaker 1: He's gotta seems like you gotta have some leverage on

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Speaker 1: his emotional content. You know, some guys are like that. Yeah,

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00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: that doesn't make him a bad guy, just makes it

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00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: one of those guys. You gotta light something under, you know,

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Speaker 1: to get him to go. That's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: Back to the tweet sheet in terms of what positions

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Speaker 1: the Bills you feel are most likely to address with

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Speaker 1: their top two picks at thirty and sixty one, and

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Speaker 1: Tiffany says, I believe that they will address both the

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Speaker 1: D line and the old line in the draft. Christian

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Speaker 1: Barmore could be a steel if he's there at thirty.

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Speaker 1: He's a defensive tackle from Alabama. You could double dip

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Speaker 1: from Obama and grab Landon Dickerson for insurance behind Mitch Morse.

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00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Two solid players from a championship team. What do you say,

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Speaker 1: Steve to the argument that your first three picks should

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Speaker 1: be players that are getting on the field in some way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form and playing some kind of role early,

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Speaker 1: especially nowadays, depends on the rush did they come into. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if if you're the Chiefs, Bucks, Bills, Packers,

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00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: even the Saints, yeah, you gonna The only reason I

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Speaker 1: asked that is because Tiffany saying, oh, you get land

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Speaker 1: and Dickerson in round two as insurance behind Mitch Moore.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking for an insurance player in round two.

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00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that you are. Um, that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: It depends on how good his upside is. Certainly there's

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Speaker 1: not going to be too many places on this team

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Speaker 1: where you're gonna draft a guy and expect him to

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Speaker 1: start opening day. That and in fact there's only you know,

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Speaker 1: Tremaine and Tredavious are the only guys that did it. Um,

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00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: Josh ended up playing on opening day. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the way they do it. And this team wasn't that great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah when they when they took over nowadays, I mean

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Speaker 1: a j Panessa at Oliver All. None of those guys

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Speaker 1: played on opening day, Milano. I think he worked can

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: while to get on the field. Um. Now, Zach Moss

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00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: Deans was an exception, right, Zach Moss and Devin Singletary

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Speaker 1: might have had a line share of work. Although I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's on their first snap. Nothing that's important.

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Speaker 1: You know, those guys are different. Gabe Davis is the

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Speaker 1: only one. Yeah, Landon Dickerson, you know, with that ACL injury,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: help you this year anyway. Do you want to spend

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Speaker 1: a second round pick on a guy that may not

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Speaker 1: be able to help you till November December at the earliest.

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Speaker 1: And even then, what is he? And you know, no NFL,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, and it depends on I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: caught he's Yeah, I was talking about him yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's the red flags about all these guys.

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Speaker 1: If you got a guy who's a dominant player who's

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Speaker 1: got some injury issues in the past. And I told

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Speaker 1: those legs are better after they injure him. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: the doc fixes him up with you know, with hardware

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Speaker 1: that doesn't break, you know what I mean. Some of

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Speaker 1: You can't predict. It's because some guys it's they're all done.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us. When we return, we will have

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Speaker 1: for you the producer, the NFL Network Vice president of Production.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be running the draft coverage for NFL

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Speaker 1: Network from Cleveland, so we'll talk to him when we return,

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Speaker 1: as we're interested in seeing a live draft again after

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Speaker 1: last year's fully virtual situation, which you know, they did

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Speaker 1: what they could, but this figures to be a whole

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Speaker 1: lot better. So we'll talk to Charlie Yoke about that

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Speaker 1: Kali to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio had a Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over the field. Kind of unique.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you,

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Speaker 1: Steve Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated

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Speaker 1: here of normalcy. Here. Welcome to our number two of

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you as we sit fifteen days away from

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft with coverage coming to

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Speaker 1: you live from Cleveland, a live draft Steve Tasker, and

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Speaker 1: here to talk about that coverage on NFL Network is

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network Vice President of Production, producer of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft, who will provide full coverage

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Speaker 1: starting on April twenty ninth. It is one Charlie You

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Speaker 1: joining us. Charlie, how excited are you to have a

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Speaker 1: real draft to cover? We are, We're pump guys. Great

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Speaker 1: to be on. It's a tradition like no other. Like

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Speaker 1: we said during the interleague, UM, very excited to be

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Speaker 1: able to put on a production that I think both

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Speaker 1: Bills fans and NFL fans will enjoy again an NFL

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Speaker 1: Network at eight pm Eastern on Thursday the twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: How is this draft gonna look? I know you guys

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Speaker 1: go down, you get to check out the venue, you

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Speaker 1: do all the pre visits. And then you know, you

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Speaker 1: gotta know what the COVID protocols are gonna be. How

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Speaker 1: is this draft gonna look to viewers when they tune in.

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna be the big long Walk? Is it

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Speaker 1: gonna be you know what's gonna be different about this

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Speaker 1: one than the ones before COVID. Yeah, it's a good question, Steve.

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Speaker 1: It's we're we're hopeful to have a decent amount of

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Speaker 1: fans out there following all the health and safety protocols.

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Speaker 1: I think for NFL fans that remember drafts and pass

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Speaker 1: this will probably feel a lot like what Philadelphia was

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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. Outdo it. But again, like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: like yeah, it's outside. NFL network's gonna have three sets.

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Speaker 1: ESPN will have a set college game to an ABC

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Speaker 1: has a set. So we're starting to get back to

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Speaker 1: a little more normalcy. But the good news is we've

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Speaker 1: we've been to Cleveland. That town's ready to pop. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a passionate football base, much like Bills fans are.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like Chris said on the twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: were ready to rock and roll. But it's it's all

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Speaker 1: mainly outside in between their stadium and the Science Center,

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Speaker 1: rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and we've got locations everywhere,

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna have every aspect covered of this event.

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Speaker 1: And I know with the Rock and Roll Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame just as stones throw away, well with what you're

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Speaker 1: allowed to share, what how might that be incorporated into

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Speaker 1: you know, the three day event here. I mean you've

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Speaker 1: got the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame literally in

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Speaker 1: the stadium's backyard over there, so how might that be

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Speaker 1: incorporated through the course of the telecast? Yeah, So the

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Speaker 1: players that have been announced that will be in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: there's ten of them right now. They're going to have

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Speaker 1: a red carpet ceremony as they arrive, as we've had

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Speaker 1: in previous years. Last year being excluded, but there'll be

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Speaker 1: a red carpet at the Rock and Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: for them. We'll take as many you know, beauty bumper

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Speaker 1: shots there as that is a you know, I kind

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Speaker 1: of Cleveland area. And like with the with the Rock

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Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame sign um, we're gonna incorporate

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Speaker 1: music from those that are being that are up for

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Speaker 1: induction for the Hall of Fame and many previous acts.

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Speaker 1: So it's music is going to be a big deal,

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Speaker 1: especially for Cleveland. Um, and like I said that Thursday,

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Speaker 1: for the players, it'll be a chance for them to

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Speaker 1: get their moment before they go on stage and get

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Speaker 1: picked and hear their name announced and get to meet

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Goodell. All right, let me yeah, is there gonna

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Speaker 1: be live music? There will be. I believe the release

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Speaker 1: went out. Um, I think that. I think I can

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Speaker 1: share that if not breaking news and I'll get in trouble,

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Speaker 1: but we have live music all three days, uh seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern on Thursday, the twenty ninth Kings of Leon.

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Speaker 1: There'll be a closing act on Friday at the end

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Speaker 1: of the draft time TBD typically around eleven o'clock, and

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Speaker 1: a closing act on Saturday around seven pm Eastern. On

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Speaker 1: that me first, yeah, the announced but yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: don't recall that those bands there. But you know, like

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Speaker 1: I said, music a big part of Cleveland, a big

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Speaker 1: part of what we do. It'll be woven throughout the

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Speaker 1: three days of the draft. One other thing you said,

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Speaker 1: it's it's been known that you're gonna have some what

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Speaker 1: some other CBS and some other uh you know, television

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Speaker 1: talent and CBS and Fox talent helping with the announcements

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Speaker 1: in the draft or is that going to be the uh,

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Speaker 1: the the analysts or are you talking about television programs? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, look, so you know the draft is presented.

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Speaker 1: We're lucky because we didn't get it last year, right Steve,

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Speaker 1: So NFL networks back in the mix. ABC and ESPN

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Speaker 1: still get to do their stuff, but we we use

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Speaker 1: you know, we try to broad in our spectrum to

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Speaker 1: give the best coverage we can possibly present. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if you speak of like, you know, Charles Davis is

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Speaker 1: a part of our broadcast. He's a part of Entful

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Speaker 1: Network and eat his games. You know. Joel Klatt is

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Speaker 1: part of our broadcast. He does cosge football games on Fox.

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Speaker 1: So we try to expand our voices. Coach David Shoff Stanford,

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Speaker 1: he returns um you know, as as we're lucky to

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Speaker 1: use him as he has that tie in from both

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Speaker 1: you know, running a program at Stanford and having worked

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Speaker 1: in the NFL for a very long time. So we

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Speaker 1: feel like we've got the right voices again this year.

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Speaker 1: A lot of our talent, I know, I can speak

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Speaker 1: for them. They've been champing at the bit. They haven't

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Speaker 1: done this since Nashville and twenty nineteen to be on

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Speaker 1: site and present. This is going to be it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a release, and I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: something that all the fans, like I said, Bill's fans,

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Speaker 1: Browns fans, and all NFL fans are going to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: We're ready to go. We're pumped, like I mean, we

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Speaker 1: were just there this past weekend. A town's gonna pop,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. We'll love it. Talking to NFL

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Speaker 1: Network Vice President and Production Charlie Yuke and who's running

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Speaker 1: the draft for NFL Network in a couple of weeks time.

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Speaker 1: And I know it was probably a major challenge for

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Speaker 1: you guys to not have the cutaway options to teams

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Speaker 1: draft rooms last year because there really weren't any. They

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Speaker 1: were all virtual for all intents and purposes. Can we

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Speaker 1: expect to see access to team draft rooms again for

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Speaker 1: those sneak peeks and you know live look in so

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Speaker 1: to speak, when teams are on the clock. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: should be able to see all thirty two teams and

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Speaker 1: we should have, you know, hopefully a good represent representation

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Speaker 1: of players as well. So we're looking at you know,

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Speaker 1: close to one hundred remotes again, which is a testament

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Speaker 1: to all the you know NFLI T support tech support operations.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a tremendous endeavor one that we work together

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Speaker 1: with with the clubs and the players and all the representation.

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Speaker 1: But Um, you're going to get to you know, as

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Speaker 1: as we peel off the layers of the onion, we're

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Speaker 1: going to make sure Cleveland you see everything that's happening

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Speaker 1: there on stage with the sights and sounds. But it's

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Speaker 1: going to be especially important as clubs around the clock

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Speaker 1: to see what the clubs are doing, who the player

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Speaker 1: may be, UM and that sequence, as well as seeing

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Speaker 1: just outside of Cleveland. We've we've called it the Hub

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Speaker 1: and Spook model for lack of a better phrase. But

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Speaker 1: it's important to us to keep showing that the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: is the center of the draft, but there's more going

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Speaker 1: on for the other thirty two clubs elsewhere as well. Charlie,

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Speaker 1: how much do you have to do with the way

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Speaker 1: the physical logistics are going to work between I know

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: the league moves in there. They've got their communications people

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna you know, they're in like you, they

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Speaker 1: had the same Hub and spoke philosophy that you do.

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Speaker 1: Yours is a broadcast. There's this information who's picking who?

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Speaker 1: How much do you have, how if any sway over

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Speaker 1: how that works and your access to it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I don't have this. I don't have that much sway,

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Speaker 1: But we all are in groups and meetings. There's been

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Speaker 1: plenty of zooms. I know you guys have probably you know,

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00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: been zoomed out the last year where a lot of

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Speaker 1: this discussion happened months in advance. And how we're going

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Speaker 1: to present this event and how the team tables are

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Speaker 1: going to remain at three forty five Park, you know,

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Speaker 1: the headquarters of the league offices, and how we're going

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Speaker 1: to conduct it. It is the best way to think

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Speaker 1: of it, Steve. It's like it's kind of like an

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Speaker 1: orchestra right where all these pieces are playing, and if

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Speaker 1: they play at the wrong times or if you miss

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00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: a note, it's going to sound awful. But somehow the

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Speaker 1: league figures this out, and we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: smart people, smarter than I am, to know how this

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Speaker 1: cadence is going to work that gets everything done from

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Speaker 1: pick one to Jacksonville to the last pick, and mister

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00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: irrelevant so honestly, a lot of this stuff is very

1011
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: technical that I wouldn't even know how to do, and

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Speaker 1: I probably failed those classes in high school and college.

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00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: But the fact that this gets pulled off in a

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Speaker 1: virtual world still we learned a lot last year is

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Speaker 1: a testament those men and women who put it together.

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna it's it's a very very organized, sequential

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Speaker 1: system of how once we know Jacksonville's on the clock,

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Speaker 1: how it's gonna work. And it's very it's very it's

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00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: a well oiled machine. There's no one to put it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Charlie, with all of the hoops that you guys

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Speaker 1: had to jump through to kind of rewrite how to

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Speaker 1: do an NFL draft last year, even though there was

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Speaker 1: some uncertainty in the run up to this one before

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Speaker 1: the league finally said we're gonna have a live draft

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Speaker 1: and blah blah blah a month or so ago. Is

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Speaker 1: anything after last year relatively easy by comparison? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean easy. That's interesting. That might not be the but

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Speaker 1: it might not be. Look it. Last year was a

1029
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: challenge on so many levels for so many people, for

1030
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: so many different reasons, and to pull off what we

1031
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Speaker 1: all pulled off. I think was a minor miracle. I

1032
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: think everyone would agree, but it worked, and you learn

1033
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: about these things, right, there's a human element involved in

1034
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: everything we do. Guys, forget everything else for a second.

1035
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Speaker 1: But like, the things people still remember last year are

1036
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's dog, right, right, put Clansbury's house, like, like,

1037
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Speaker 1: those are the things that make them relatable, right, and

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00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: the things that fans want to see. So we're trying

1039
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: to carry that over as well. The draft is, as

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Speaker 1: you guys know, it's about hope, and it's the hope

1041
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: that this player that gets selected ultimately helps the franchise

1042
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: and the team. You never know what this player is

1043
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: going to turn into, but you hope for the best,

1044
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: right Josh Allen's a great example. Smaller school comes out

1045
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Speaker 1: and now he's one of the best players in the NFL. Like,

1046
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Speaker 1: you can never hope for something better than that. And

1047
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Speaker 1: that's what this I think event why people so many

1048
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Speaker 1: people are drawn to it because you just don't know

1049
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Speaker 1: who the next Josh Allen, who's Tom Brady at one

1050
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Speaker 1: ninety nine, who these players are going to be, And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think people are glued to the TV

1052
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Speaker 1: for all these picks. But we learned a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, like like I don't, I don't necessarily

1054
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Speaker 1: think the roads harder, but there's definitely some problems we

1055
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Speaker 1: solve last year that helped us this year to execute

1056
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Speaker 1: what we need to. And I think if there's anything

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: that at least us from the outside learned about the

1058
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: coverage of the draft last year was how well received

1059
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: the additional access to players homes was. I mean, fans

1060
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: were eating that up, like just seeing the raw emotion

1061
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: not just from the player but from the entire family.

1062
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: And I think you got last year, maybe more than

1063
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: any other year, the full breadth of what it means

1064
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: to the entire player's family that day, that moment, that

1065
00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: culmination of a career in athletics reaching the highest level finally,

1066
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: And I mean you guys were providing that time over time,

1067
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: over time, over time, people were just lapping it up.

1068
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't get enough of it. How much

1069
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: does that is that influencing maybe your coverage? And I

1070
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: know you mentioned you're gonna be in what you're hoping

1071
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: are a hundred prospects homes. Yeah, Look, it's great. Great

1072
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: content always starts with emotion. Right, you have to feel something,

1073
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: whether it's anger, pain, sadness, joy. I think all that

1074
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: stuff is relatable, Chris, like a lot of us, I

1075
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen my family still in over a year and

1076
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: a half. So to have these moments where you can

1077
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: be with your family and celebrate a moment, I mean,

1078
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: you know all of us are you know, husband's, father's daughters, wives, sisters, cousins, brothers, friends,

1079
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: like those moments are. We realize how special these moments are.

1080
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of these kids last

1081
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: year being with their family, they just felt fortunate and

1082
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: then being able to go into the National Football League

1083
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: for a craft they've been working at their entire lives.

1084
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: A lot of that stuff just bubbles up, right. I'm

1085
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily a prior. I don't know if you guys are,

1086
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: but sometimes you just can't help it when when you

1087
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: get overcome with it. And I think people can relate

1088
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: to that. It's not like it's it's not exploitative TV TV.

1089
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: It's just people are feeling a certain way because of

1090
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: what the last year has been, truly, and it's just

1091
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: for them. It's just it's it's it's a culmination of

1092
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work that we're happy to share with.

1093
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, either Bills fans or just

1094
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: football fans. I think everyone could relate to someone who

1095
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: busted their butts to get somewhere and be with their

1096
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: family and enjoy them all. Yeah, Steve's are a resident crier.

1097
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah I cry. I cry, Charlie at a good beer commercial.

1098
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: You know, so um My, you look, look, there's a

1099
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: there's a great Josh Allen spot runner right now and

1100
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: I saw it. You may get heared up there with

1101
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: with him talking to Trail Lance about absolutely. My question

1102
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: is this and a massive part production and there's gonna

1103
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: be in Cleveland. I mean, you got you got four

1104
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: sets of studio people that you've got to accommodate. You've

1105
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: got that going on, You've got the live on stage

1106
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: stuff going, You've got the crowd, You've got to work

1107
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: around green room jibs, You've got the green room all

1108
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: of that's going on. How do you balance the mega

1109
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: industry the NFL is with the story of maybe, for instance,

1110
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: the top pick of the draft who said I'm out

1111
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: of that. I'm gonna be at home with my mom

1112
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: and dad. How do you balance the mega superstar celebrity

1113
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: red carpet treatment to a kid in his living room

1114
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: with his family. How do you strike that balance effectively? Uh,

1115
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: it's a good question, and I think it's when we

1116
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: attack with We attack every storyline in advance, but knowing

1117
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: it in steve having you know you've done games, you

1118
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: know those storylines can change once the game happens. So

1119
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: once we get to that point where the commissioner puts

1120
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: the Jags on the clock, we'll follow along. We all

1121
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: we all presume where the number one pick is going

1122
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: to be. We've probably thought that for the last three years,

1123
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: the first time we saw him play at Clemson. He's

1124
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: still a good story for the league, right, It's good

1125
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: to have good players come into the league. It's good

1126
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: to have a good quarterback come in the league. And

1127
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: it's good to have someone you know that's going to

1128
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: be representing Jacksonville like that in the league. So we'll

1129
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: follow the storylines. We're gonna take shots to him as

1130
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: he's waiting. We can't take shots to him. It's agree,

1131
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, we don't. We never we never tipped the pick,

1132
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: so you'll never see a player on the phone before

1133
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: they get picked to We want to keep that drama involved.

1134
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: But um, it's just following, you know, it's it's it's

1135
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: we treated very much like a game. We want to

1136
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: follow the game storylines as much as the draft storylines,

1137
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: and if there's a motion, we show it. We have

1138
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: a lot of great as you guys know, we've got

1139
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: and what we feel some of the best in the

1140
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: business and what they do, from our hosts, to our analysts,

1141
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: to our insiders, to our reporters, so they can fill

1142
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: in the blanks for any storylines that are on or

1143
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: off the field. Um do guys say think, I think

1144
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: for our broadcast it's just as important to tell the

1145
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: story of the player off the fields is as much

1146
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: as it's the story of him on the field. We

1147
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: can handle that pretty well with our exotapes. But it's

1148
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: the like I said, the human emotion, the stuff that's involved.

1149
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: Like I think people know, but we all want to

1150
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: take it for granted. Charvel Lawrence got married recently. Um,

1151
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: so here's a young man who's you know, had so

1152
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. Say that three times fast. It's gotten married. Um,

1153
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: he's won a national championship. You know, what does he

1154
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: do on the field that's going to help out and

1155
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: what does he do off the field, honestly, because that's

1156
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: just as important today's NFL as well. How many kids

1157
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: prospects do you guys have a video file on that

1158
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: you can like roll the tape? How many of those? Yeah,

1159
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: So we used to have an obnoxious number, Steve, just

1160
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: because we just said let's just do it. We've kind

1161
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: of paired it down, so we used to go into

1162
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: the thousands, right, but we're we're probably more realistically at

1163
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: like six to six hundred tapes, individual tapes now actual

1164
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: tapes themselves. We are still in the thousands, but player

1165
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: profiles what we have, it's probably a six hundred and change,

1166
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: so we feel covered. It's three times the amount of

1167
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: foill get picked. We always want to just be sure

1168
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: and it'll leave looks selfish. Plug here. It leads to

1169
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: our Day three game that we always do, Stump the

1170
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: Truck hashtag Stump the Truck that that resonates pretty well

1171
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter, right, where I got to pick a random

1172
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: guy and like, do we have a tape of this?

1173
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: And then then and we see if we have it

1174
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: thumbs up or thumbs down, But um no, it's it's important.

1175
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: I think we have. We don't just do it to

1176
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: do it right. It's not just the stock pilots. To

1177
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: make sure if we have something, we can tell the

1178
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: story of this player that's going to the franchise, so

1179
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: the fan knows who who this player is. That was

1180
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna be my next question, Charlie, because if there is

1181
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: one thing that's different about this year that you don't

1182
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: have at your disposal, it's combine footage. You did have

1183
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: a combine last year because it happened right before the

1184
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: pandemic hit and you had that footage to make use of.

1185
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Have you what have you done to kind of make

1186
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: up for not having that one stop shop for easy

1187
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: video on upwards of three hundred guys. Have you kind

1188
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: of leaned on the Pro Days and had footage borrowed

1189
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: from there, whether it's stringers or sending guys out to

1190
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: Pro Days. What's been the m for getting that base covered? Yeah,

1191
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: so obviously playing footage whether it was their junior year,

1192
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: senior year, or you know some of them opted out.

1193
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: So previous years we put a big focus on Pro Days.

1194
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: We covered over sixty five schools. We got a lot

1195
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: of footage from that. I think, you know, we saw Wow,

1196
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: stuff from Zach Wilson at BYU Justin Fields at Ohiose State. So, um,

1197
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: we we're supplementing that footage and we put a priority

1198
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: on that over not having the combine. Um. But but

1199
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: like I said, I think I think fans and I

1200
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: think you guys would agree. Right. It's it's important to

1201
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: see them in their college helmets playing an actual game.

1202
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: So that's going to be our priority, and a lot

1203
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: of times too, we want to make sure their helmets

1204
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: off as well. So that's why the pro day footage

1205
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: comes comes you know, is very key. Uh, It's it's

1206
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: good to see their faces and who they are off

1207
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: with their helmets off. So, Charlie, it starts on April

1208
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: twenty ninth. You're gonna be right there as it begins.

1209
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: It's April fourteenth today. Two questions, One, when do you

1210
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: start building the set and maybe it already has started.

1211
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: Maybe when you're gonna start building the massive scaffolding and

1212
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: all that. And secondly, when are you gonna build that

1213
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: in Buffalo? Great, great question. I'll answer both album answer

1214
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: both in order. Steve one um the sets already being

1215
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: built League events see three pocket list. They've already been

1216
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: there the the Trent. The we were there this past weekend.

1217
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, the weather was gorgeous, all like the

1218
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: scaffolding went up there. It's it'll be ready. We'll be

1219
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: ready in a rock in two weeks. As far as Buffalo,

1220
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: I would um, I would love to go. I would

1221
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: love to I have not been to Buffalo, um in

1222
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: a long time, not since I was a kid for

1223
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: Niagara Fall. So I can only speak for myself. I

1224
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: would love to go back, and I know that the

1225
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: fan base there would welcome us with open arms. Um. Hey,

1226
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: just you know, if you got the Bagula's cell phone,

1227
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: just give him a text to be like, let's put

1228
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: in a bid here for twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five.

1229
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: Those are open. So I'm all about it. Yeah, Steve

1230
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: started the campaign already, apparently on live television and radio.

1231
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: So good on you, Steve. Last one, last one from me, Charlie.

1232
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: You know this this has become I know, from a

1233
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: production standpoint, it's a three day marathon. Um, but do

1234
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: you feel like three days you've guys have reached the

1235
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: sweet spot from a from a production val how you standpoint?

1236
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: Because you know people in this country, they can't get

1237
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: enough of football, no matter when it is or how

1238
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: long it takes, and the draft is the premier offseason event.

1239
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. But do

1240
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: you think three days is the sweet spot from a

1241
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: production value standpoint? Well, I would ask you what do

1242
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: you guys think would you want to make it for

1243
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: because when we switched to primetime that was huge for us.

1244
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 1: Right Thursday Friday night at primetime. Would you guys be

1245
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: exhausted if we went till Sunday? Well, because we work.

1246
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: We're working just like you are, maybe not to the

1247
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: extent that you are, because you're never you don't have

1248
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: a moment off. I went up Monday through Friday, a weekend.

1249
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: I like three days. I think it's I think it's good.

1250
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: I think three days is just where it should be.

1251
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel differently, but that's why

1252
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 1: I asked the question. One of the reasons I like

1253
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: it that way, Charlie is it's cool because by the

1254
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: day three, the day one two picks are already in

1255
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: the cities they got drafted by they get on a

1256
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: fight almost immediately. Some of the club sends the plane

1257
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: and they bring them back by day two, the day

1258
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: one pick is already in town, and that's kind of cool,

1259
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: at least in a normal situation. I don't know if

1260
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: they'll be that way because of COVID, but I think

1261
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: that's a fun thing because now you've got footage of

1262
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: that to add to the broadcast on day two, right. Yeah,

1263
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: And we normally take those press conferences as well. Look,

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Speaker 1: no one at the league level is gonna ask me, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about moving any of this stuff?

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Speaker 1: But where we are right now, I would say I

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: think we're in a good spot. Primetime Thursday night at

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Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern NFL Network on April twenty ninth, Primetime

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01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: on Friday, April thirtieth, it's seven pm Eastern on end

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Speaker 1: of the network, and then Saturday starting at New and Eastern,

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Speaker 1: which takes us through the day. I think I think

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Speaker 1: we're trying to do a better job all three nights

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01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: relating to the hardcore fan and the casual fan, knowing

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: that some people maybe haven't paid attention since Super Bowl,

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01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: hitting those high notes that we need to hit for

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: all thirty two clubs, some clubs created less equally than others,

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Speaker 1: And what what I mean by that is, some don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of picks, right, some teams have three picks,

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01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: or some teams have teams of thirteen picks. But we

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01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: want to make sure we're telling the right stories because

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01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: everyone does have a chance. You guys know this just

1282
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: as well as I do. Like every year, Hope springs

1283
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: eternal and it happens right around now, and all you

1284
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: need is sometimes one or two players to literally alter,

1285
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, the direction of your franchise, and it can happen.

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01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: You just got to pick the right guy. And that's

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01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: the best part of this whole bay. And I'll just

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: say this for the sake of the three day event.

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01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: I like that it starts on Thursday. And I know

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01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of fans that I've talked to over the

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: years once the switch was made, they really like the

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01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: format where it ends on Saturday because they often like

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01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: to have another day to kind of review everything. And

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01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 1: they have that now on Sunday, where in the old days,

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01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: the drafts end in Sunday evening and they're going to

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: work on Monday, you know, And you know, I'm sure

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 1: their bosses know they're not super productive because they're pouring

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: over their teams picks and whatever. I like having Sunday

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01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: to kind of sit and digest every thing that just happened.

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Speaker 1: So that's why that's why I like the current format. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm but I think, look, I think the

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: three day events kind of here for now and we'll

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01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: see what happens the appetite. As you guys know, there

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01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: was a large deal that just announced with the National

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01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: Football League, so we'll see what happens. If I know

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01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: anything about working here the last sixteen seasons in fifteen

1307
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: years is we can shift and move on a dime

1308
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: and change his need be not for just for change purposes.

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: So more than ready to do that. Like you said,

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to necessarily work one

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: day through and Sunday all the way through, but I

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01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: get told what to do, all right, Charlie, Well listen,

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: thanks for the time and painting the picture for us.

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: We really look forward to your guys coverage of it.

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Speaker 1: Will be watching every single second obviously Thursday, Friday and

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: Saturday on NFL Network. Thanks Charlie for the time. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I always appreciate talking you guys. Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Charlie you, NFL vice President of Production

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: for NFL Network. He's going to be running the production

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01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft for NFL Network

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,759
Speaker 1: on April twenty ninth, with coverage opening at eight pm,

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01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: followed by primetime coverage on Friday at seven pm, and

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: then as we know, Day three on Saturday, which will

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Speaker 1: be May first, gets underway at noon. And uh, I

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01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: can't wait, man, I'm getting Nancy now. Ye still two

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: weeks out. I'm getting Nancy. It's one of those things.

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01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: And I said it yesterday. I'll say to you, probably

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01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: said tomorrow too. It happens. It's happening more and more

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: where there there's that little instance in our day where

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01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: you think, oh, yeah, that's how it used to be.

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01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. You know, I'm gonna together, it's

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01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: gonna look like it used to. It's gonna be fun

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01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,440
Speaker 1: in a long time. And we don't usually get producers

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01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: on this show. We usually get analysts and former players

1335
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: and that stuff. That's why I wanted to ask him, like,

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01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: is the three day production the sweet spot? Because I

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01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: think they've got a very good format as it's currently constituted.

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: They get their primetime audience the first two nights, and

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: then for the die hards, they go all day on

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: Day three on a Saturday, when people just kind of

1341
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: lounging on the couch on two on that Day three, brownie,

1342
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: because every team's got some picks already in and say, hey, listen,

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,480
Speaker 1: here's where they picked here, and it's really it contextualizes

1344
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: the late round picks. Yeah, and it's yeah, there's it is.

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: It's hard and selfishly yeah, selfishly when they moved it

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: back a day and now they end on Saturday, for me,

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: that's glorious because now I still have Sunday. First a

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: briefe yeah, and then second to really kind of pour

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01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: over not only what the Bills did, but hey, what

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01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: did the rest of the division do? Who did well?

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: Who kind of addressed something? What did these guys want

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01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: to do? Did they do that? And then okay, oh,

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01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: that guys did pretty well. It's great for a lot

1354
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: of reasons because it ends on Saturday, and before Saturday

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: is really over Saturday night and Sunday you find out

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01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: who the rookie free agents are. Well, yeah, that too.

1357
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is in it to come in

1358
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: is churning and and it's that's when it really goes hectic.

1359
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: It becomes like, you know, these teams on the phone

1360
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: become like the stock market by sell trade really fast.

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: With these rookie free agents. They want to sign guys

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: that didn't get drafted, that have upside tray adams on

1363
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: the bills of practice squad this last year's you know,

1364
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: when these sixty eight, three hundred and thirty pound offensive

1365
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: lineman guys like that land as well, and to have

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: an extra day where that's the only thing you can

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: think of need to think about. As I putting it

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: into context with the picks, that's yeah, it's you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think the way they're running it now, I think

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01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: they're getting it right at least for the time being. Yeah,

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: we have to take a break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: More of your comments on the tweet sheet in terms

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: of what you think the Bills will do in terms

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01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: of what positions they'll address with their top two draft

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01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: choices at thirty and sixty one, tell us what you

1376
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: think because we got open phone lines coming up next

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: for you at eight oh three oh five, fifty one,

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: eighty eighty five, fifty two, five fifty Are you thinking

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: corner Are you thinking pass rusher? Are you thinking offensive line?

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: What about a linebacker? What about a linebacker? I mean,

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01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: I know they've signed a couple of depth linebackers the

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01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But if you can rule that out,

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01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: let us know what you think. Eight oh three, five fifty,

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Speaker 1: We're back here in a flash on One Bill's Live,

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01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Back.

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Speaker 1: Second half of the show now under way. Wednesday edition

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Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live. Good conversation we had there with

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: Charlie Yuke, NFL vice president of production for NFL Network.

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: He's basically running the telecast on NFL Network. Started the

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: draft in Cleveland, starting to feel real. You know, we're

1391
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: just talking about it in the breaks, like it's gonna

1392
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: be great. I'm getting juiced, man, Diett juice for the

1393
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: Dursday night primetime television. Let's go. So yeah, I'm ready.

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: It could start in a half an hour and I'd

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: be ready to go. Man. So yeah, we're and speaking

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: of the draft, we're kind of addressing the Bill's top

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: two picks at thirty and sixty one, and we want

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01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: to know from you. At eight oh three, five fifty

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. What

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01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: positions do you believe the Bills are most likely to

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: address with those top two choices. We've had some early responses.

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01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: Some people believe corner should be on the list. Some

1403
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: have said pass rusher, offensive end, defensive line, trench picks

1404
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: were the last comment that we got from Tiffany. And

1405
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 1: now as we return to the tweet sheet, JT says,

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01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: with Bean's history, I say he takes the best player

1407
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: left on the board, but I personally think we should

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: take a defensive end and corner. We need to be

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01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: able to get to the quarterback that's been the thorn

1410
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,440
Speaker 1: in our side at corner. I hope we take Asante

1411
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: Samuel Jr. We already met with him twice and I

1412
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: think he's a stut. Samuel has been mocked to the

1413
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: Bills quite a few times, and because he does not

1414
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: have elite man cover skills, it's believed that he will

1415
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 1: be at the bottom end of the first tier of corners.

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01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: So there is a chance that he is sitting there

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01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: still on the board at thirty. So I don't think

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01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 1: he's out of the realm of possibility. Yeah, it might be.

1419
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: It might come down to the fact that he did

1420
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: meet with the Bills twice, and they might be trying

1421
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: to get down to the core of is he going

1422
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: to be able to have that, you know, like raise

1423
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: Finger quotes the growth mindset. If he doesn't have elite

1424
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: cover skills, he willing to cultivate him, he willing to

1425
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: work at it? Is it billing to acquire them? Is

1426
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: he going to get the most out of what physical

1427
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: tools he has? Is he going to be a guy

1428
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: who turns it up a notch rather than takes it

1429
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: out of gear when he becomes a professional. All that

1430
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: stuff you can try to find out when he's talked

1431
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 1: to the guy and that's what he's met with the

1432
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: Bills twice. They must like him and think he's gonna

1433
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: be there, you know what I'm saying. Or maybe they're

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: thinking and he'll be there at least high enough for

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: them to either jump up or drop back to get him. Um.

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: Either way, you don't meet with a guy twice thinking

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: that he's not in your plans. So it's uh, yeah,

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01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: I think it's I think that's interesting and and we're

1439
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: all the same spot Welling edge rusher corner you know

1440
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: that kind of that that's where everybody's lands when they

1441
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: when they talk about it or offensive line. I think

1442
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: the most encouraging thing about Samuel just having watched some

1443
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: of his games, his game took a step this year

1444
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 1: in his junior season. He was always good at breaking

1445
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: up passes. I mean, the guy had twenty nine pass

1446
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: breakups in thirty one career college games. But he had

1447
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: four interceptions this year. So now he's he's made the

1448
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: step of turning pass breakups into takeaways now, not to

1449
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: a great extent yet, but I think he's showing that

1450
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: he's on that track. Not a big guy at all,

1451
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: He's only about five ten five. Don't know if he

1452
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: has the frame to add more bulk. We'll see, but

1453
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: he's got obviously NFL bloodlines. His dad played in the league.

1454
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: He figures to come off the board sooner than his

1455
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: son than his dad did. I think his dad was

1456
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: a third round pick of the Patriots, if I remember right,

1457
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I think his I think his outlook

1458
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: on the game, the importance of the game to him

1459
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: check some boxes for the Bills, and then it's just

1460
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: going to come down to is he's still there and

1461
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: if he is, then yeah, I think he'll be a

1462
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: strong consideration for Buffalo. Yeah he's a he's a five

1463
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: ten buck eighty three athlete, and yeah, you watch him

1464
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: on tape. He seems to play with some juice, seems

1465
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: alike being out there. I think his personality and we

1466
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: all know this when you're talking to McBean and Sean

1467
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: McDermott brand I mean, when you're talking to those guys,

1468
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: you're personality counts. Yeah, and for good reason. I mean

1469
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: I know from personal experience. When when these guys get drafted,

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01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: I mean I've I said it a bunch. It's you're

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Speaker 1: getting a new member of the family. Why would you

1472
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: willingly take somebody that you're not gonna like, you know,

1473
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: that has issues that you got to live with. You

1474
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: want those you want him to be. You want your

1475
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: guys and new members of your family to be contributors,

1476
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: like personality wise, you know, intellect you want to be smart.

1477
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: You want him to have a great, happy, gregarious personality.

1478
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: You want to be a leader, you want to be

1479
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: a can do. You want them to be a guy

1480
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: that overcomes challenges, it looks things, looks at tough patches

1481
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: in their career, in the season that looks at him

1482
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: as opportunities. You know, you got to want a guy

1483
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: that's an encourager to his teammates, a guy that pumps

1484
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 1: his up, his teammates up, who wants the best for everybody,

1485
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: not just himself. All of that stuff goes in the mix.

1486
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,799
Speaker 1: When you get a guy like that, you can overlook

1487
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: a lot of the physical boxes he may or may

1488
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: not check, because he's going to be a guy that

1489
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 1: gets better and better and better no matter where he

1490
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: starts from. Yeah, the thing that gives me pause as

1491
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 1: to the level of interest the Bills might have in

1492
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: Samuel is his physical size. He's only five ten one

1493
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: eighty five, as you mentioned, and the Bills typically like

1494
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: longer players on the outside. Now, that's not saying you

1495
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: can't have exceptions. Dan Jackson, the guy they drafted last time. Yeah,

1496
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: he's a seventh rounder. Yeah, he's six foot he's a

1497
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: little bit longer than Samuel is, and he went in

1498
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: the seventh round. Right, you've got a draft and high

1499
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: you gotta have some you got some traits you should

1500
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: You're usually picking guys that have the physical measurables that

1501
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: you're looking for, right, and so That's the only thing

1502
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: that gives me pause on Samuel at the end of

1503
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: round one. Maybe they think he'll be maybe because I've

1504
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: seen him mocked as late as round three. But now

1505
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: there's late momentum for him to be moving up boards

1506
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, draft knicks are finding out

1507
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,919
Speaker 1: that there are teams that like him a great deal, probably,

1508
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: and so they're boosting him up the boards. I wonder

1509
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: if he's a consideration at Nickel, you know what I mean,

1510
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: because he's more of the size of a Nickel corner.

1511
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: We shouldn't forget or dismiss the fact that Taron Johnson

1512
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: is entering the last year of his rookie contract and

1513
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: you just signed Tradevious White to a long term extension

1514
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: along with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer the year prior.

1515
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: You can't bring back everybody, So are you bringing back

1516
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: Taron Johnson after this year? I don't know. I don't

1517
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: know if any of us can answer that question definitively

1518
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 1: right now, But you know that general managers always have

1519
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: to plan a year ahead, So you wonder, although I

1520
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: don't know if you are you're drafting a backup Nickel

1521
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: in round one, you're probably drafting somebody that you want

1522
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: to help you right now. So that's the only thing

1523
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: that gives me pause with a Sante Samuel. Yeah, some

1524
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: of the stuff they say about him, he can eventually

1525
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: some of them. Here's generally speaking, here's one of the

1526
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: right in front of me. It says he can eventually

1527
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: take over for a starting corner as an inside outside

1528
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: corner with reactive athleticism, ball skills and instincts to become

1529
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: one of the best corners in the league. So there's

1530
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: some people to think his traits set him up. Now.

1531
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 1: Certainly he's needs some polish and some work, but you know,

1532
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: the traits are there. Athletically, you know, the guy can run,

1533
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: and he can jump, he's got ball skills, and he's

1534
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's got a little bit of nastiness in

1535
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: him where he's going to compete, you know, when the

1536
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: ball comes out. So he's got all that stuff you

1537
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: look for, which is why I think more and more

1538
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: he's starting to, yeah, overcome the fact that he's five tens.

1539
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: I just keep coming back to the importance of having

1540
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: corners on the outside that can support the run in

1541
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 1: this system, and his lack of size does show up

1542
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: in that area at the college level, so I don't

1543
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: know if he plays outside in this kind of a

1544
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: scheme at the NFL level in Buffalo. That's the only

1545
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: pause that I have. Right, Let's go to the phones,

1546
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 1: and we got Ron and Lackawanna waiting for us. There, Ron,

1547
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one. Bill's Live, Okay, Um,

1548
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: I think in the first round we should go with

1549
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: a fast rusher. I think the guy like um Jalm

1550
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: Sillips might be there at the thirtieth pick. I don't

1551
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: like another small I mean, I like white, but he's

1552
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: small on the Swallowers side. So on the other side,

1553
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: I like the kids from Syracuse in the second round, Okay,

1554
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: Melon Fonwill And then in a third round, I think

1555
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: of these let's the tackle, maybe the kids from North

1556
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: Carolina's State McNeil or something like that. Yeah, Alan McNeill, Yeah,

1557
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Who was the first

1558
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: guy you mentioned? I mentioned Jaalam Sillips from Miami. Yeah,

1559
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: he probably will not be there at thirty but he may.

1560
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: He may. I guess it's a good possibility. I mean,

1561
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: like if there's a runoun receivers and stuff like that,

1562
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: he might swall down to Buffalo at thirty. That's right,

1563
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: he might. Yeah. He he had a killer He had

1564
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: a killer pro day. Yeah. I mean, he just looked

1565
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: like a thoroughbred six five two sixty and he's running

1566
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: like a deer out there. That opens some eyeballs as

1567
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: big as saucers when you see a guy that long

1568
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: move like that. Now, he does have some injury history.

1569
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: He had the transfer from UCLA, and so there are

1570
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 1: questions that have to be answered there. But he is

1571
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: he's a physical specimen with his length. There's times where

1572
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: I watched him on tape Steve, and I'm not saying

1573
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: he is Jason Taylor, but he's that similar length and build,

1574
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: and he comes off the edge in a similar fashion sometimes.

1575
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: But they would even kick him down inside on obvious

1576
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: passing downs and he would win there. He's got a

1577
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: fantastic swim move. He's got an inside swim move coming

1578
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: off the edge. I mean, he just blows the doors

1579
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: off of offensive tackles because he so tall and long.

1580
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: He just you know, he does the over swim move

1581
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: and he's there. His body stays far enough around from

1582
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: the tackle to get around him because of his length. Yeah,

1583
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, the longer the guy is, the taller and

1584
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: longer his arms are on the outside. That's why they

1585
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: want tackles with these big, long arms, because so they

1586
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: can reach those guys. Because space is space is death

1587
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: to these offensive linemen. There's too much space for these

1588
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: athletes to run around him and fake him and get

1589
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: him committed one way and go around the other one.

1590
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: So the more space these guys take up, the better.

1591
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: That's why I keep getting bigger and bigger and faster

1592
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: and fast. It's nuts, Yeah, it really is. And I

1593
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: know some people might say, well, yeah, we got to

1594
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: fix the pass rush, and I wouldn't be surprised if

1595
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: we saw that happen. But I think despite the fact

1596
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 1: that the Bill's top two draft choices each of the

1597
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: last two years have been defensive linemen, I wouldn't rule

1598
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: out seeing it again. And one of the main reasons why,

1599
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: and I know we got to get the break. I

1600
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: think one of the main reasons why is the value

1601
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: of the defensive end class is right in that neighborhood

1602
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: where the Bills are picking, and so I think that

1603
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: enhances the chances of that being at least a consideration

1604
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: and a possibility for Buffalo at thirty. All right, we

1605
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: gotta take a break. When we come back, Morerir comments

1606
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet and on the phones, and then

1607
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: coming up in the third hour of our show, we've

1608
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 1: got Chad Rooter from NFL Network who had two very

1609
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: interesting selections in his latest mock for the Bills at

1610
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: thirty and sixty one. We'll talk to him in about

1611
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 1: ten to twelve minutes Here on One Bills Live, presented

1612
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: by Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back. Closing

1613
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: up our number two of the show. Our number three

1614
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: will begin with NFL Network draft analyst Chad Rooter. We'll

1615
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 1: be joining us in about ten minutes time, so be

1616
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: sure to stay tuned for that. In the meantime, we're

1617
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: getting your thoughts on what positions you think the Bills

1618
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 1: are most likely to address with their top two selections

1619
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: at pick thirty and sixty one in round two. So

1620
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: who are we up to on the tweet sheet you ask,

1621
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: it's Rachel who says being set us up pretty well

1622
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: to take the best available regardless of position. I know

1623
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: we need more pass rush, but I don't see anyone

1624
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: we take at pick thirty having a big impact this year.

1625
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: So take the top player on our draft board that's

1626
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: still available outside of quarterback. So she's happy with the

1627
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: field basically. Yeah, And she's not alone. I mean, and

1628
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people have come back to us over

1629
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: the course of the time we've been talking about this,

1630
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: and listen, whatever, Brandon the guy, the guy they think's best,

1631
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, and they're completely willing to trust him. I'm

1632
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: I just can't get I can't get back to now

1633
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: that they've they've done the things they've done in free

1634
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: agency and all that. I can't get away from corner

1635
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: and defensive end. And it's one of the I think

1636
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: it's got to be one of those to maybe both

1637
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: and thirty and sixty one. Yeah. Now I've said two

1638
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: from since the beginning, Ed Oliver and Aja Panessa. I

1639
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know that that changes your philosophy. I just think

1640
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: you gotta go with what. You gotta go with the guy, yeah,

1641
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: even if he is the same position, and your first

1642
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 1: round draft choice is your last best chance between now

1643
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: and the start of this coming season to make a

1644
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: major impact on your roster with someone that can help

1645
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: you this year. Conceivably, it's your last best chance outside

1646
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: of a major trade, which is highly unlikely. I haven't

1647
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: thought about this much. I've said it, I guess in

1648
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 1: different ways, but I haven't thought about it like this.

1649
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: I last year, we wish they would have gotten after

1650
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback better. Okay, their defensive run defense was you know,

1651
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: was suspect. We thought maybe Starr was out, Star Lutul

1652
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: was out. He helped, he didn't hurt. He hurt him

1653
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: with his absence. You can't. Here's the thing too, and

1654
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I just thought, don't go down that road, because you're

1655
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 1: already gonna be much different than you were a year ago.

1656
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: You don't even know who you got. All of a

1657
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: sudden you come back. You may bee were you were

1658
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: two years ago. You may be number one or two

1659
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: defense in the league, and your offense may struggle to

1660
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: score points because whatever they caught up with you. Somebody

1661
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: gets a hangnail and can't play whatever. You don't know

1662
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: what this team's gonna look like. You may not need

1663
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: another pass rusher. Ed Oliver may turn into Aaron Donald

1664
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: and a Japaneza. The light might go on all of

1665
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's getting ten sacks and Jerry Hughes all

1666
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he is getting single teams and he

1667
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: pitches into you know, you just never know. So don't

1668
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: get caught up in the fact that we gotta fix

1669
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,759
Speaker 1: what the team looked like last year, because that team's gone.

1670
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: The only thing it's gonna be different this year, So

1671
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in that. If your fans and

1672
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: these drafts, go forward and grab the best players you

1673
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: can and find out what you've got in training camp

1674
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: and become who this team's gonna be. It don't matter

1675
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: if it looks like last year or is better. We

1676
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: last year should prove it to Bills fans. You're not

1677
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: about fixing the year before, because whenever you fix something,

1678
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: something else breaks. You know, something else goes south. That's what.

1679
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: They're completely different this last year than they were the

1680
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: year before, and they were completely the year before different

1681
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: the year before that. Think about it. They were six

1682
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: and ten, they won four more games. They were ten

1683
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: and six, and they go, okay, right, they won three

1684
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: more games with a completely different identity. Ye, don't get

1685
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: caught up in fixing last year. Last year's done. You

1686
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: gotta make this year as good as you can make it.

1687
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: So whatever this guy looks like and whoever he is,

1688
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't care. If he's a safety, you gotta get him.

1689
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,719
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. Get good, get good player,

1690
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: the best players, and then see what you've got. If

1691
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: this guy's that good, he'll get on the field or

1692
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you'll find a way to use him. So we gotta stop.

1693
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: We gotta stop thinking about fixing last year's team and

1694
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: getting a bad pass rush and all that. Well, just

1695
01:31:58,160 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: make this team as good as you can make it. Yeah,

1696
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: that's all well and good, but until it gets fixed,

1697
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: and maybe it is fixed by a surgeon play from Japanessa,

1698
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: maybe your defensive tackle play is improved. But they're uncertainties,

1699
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and so when you have uncertainties, you like to add

1700
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: some measure of certainty or at least options to take

1701
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: care of the uncertainty. And that often prompts teams to

1702
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: address perceived weakness because you still don't know until you

1703
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: get there. Yeah, that's right. You don't know what you

1704
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: don't know, and there's no way to predict the future.

1705
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: So there it is, and that's why the draft, that's

1706
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: why the draft is a crap. You go, oh my god,

1707
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: all right, we have to take a break when we return,

1708
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 1: it is Chad Ruter, NFL draft analyst for NFL Network,

1709
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: had two very interesting selections for the Bills at thirty

1710
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: and sixty one. We'll go over those with him and

1711
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: why he believes they're good fits for the Bills when

1712
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live. Because enter by

1713
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 1: Collid to Health, it's Buffalo Bill's radio at a Steve

1714
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

1715
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role players for Steve

1716
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: a literally Steve a blimp. We're not even in the

1717
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: straded heere of normalcy here, never normal here on this show,

1718
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: third hour of One Bills Live on a Wednesday, Chris

1719
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 1: Round Steve Tasker with you as is usually the case,

1720
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line right now is NFL

1721
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: draft analyst for NFL Network at his one Chad Rooter,

1722
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 1: who recently put out a mock draft that I believe

1723
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: when at least two rounds deep, and he had two

1724
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: very interesting selections for the Buffalo Bills, two guys that

1725
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I enjoyed a lot watching them on tape. And we'll

1726
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,560
Speaker 1: get to those in just a second. But here is

1727
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: one Chad Router joining us Chad, good to see you.

1728
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: It is draft season. I can't wait. It's two weeks away.

1729
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it to start tomorrow. How are you

1730
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: kind of containing yourself between now in April twenty ninth, Well,

1731
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,799
Speaker 1: I have this thing called a seven round mock draft

1732
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 1: coming out a week, so I've got plenty to do

1733
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: between now and when and that gets published. So yeah,

1734
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm ready for it to be here as

1735
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: well and start moving on watching tape on the next coup.

1736
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: What and what are your thoughts about? Are you how

1737
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: likely is it? I guess Brownie and I've been going

1738
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: back and forth, and today I'm convinced that the top

1739
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 1: ten of the draft is not going in the order

1740
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: in which they're at right now. I'm talking about the

1741
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: team's picking. Yeah, I think I think we're probably due

1742
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 1: for at least one more trade. I might purcha two

1743
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: in the top ten yet. I'm not sure how that's

1744
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: going to play out yet, but I think at least one.

1745
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 1: Before the last couple of years, you've seen that two

1746
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: or three trades for quarterbacks pretty much happened every year

1747
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 1: when there's the competite, when there's competition among teams that

1748
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: need that position, right, well, we've got that this year,

1749
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: so I think you're going to see a little bit

1750
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: a movement. I think that's why you also saw those

1751
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: two trades. A couple of weeks ago. When I put

1752
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: out that four four round mock draft, we were five

1753
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 1: minutes from publishing it, and then those two trades came out,

1754
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: so I had to redo the whole thing. So I

1755
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: think teams knew that there was going to be some

1756
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: action on draft day, and so that's why they made

1757
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: their move sooner. And speaking of trades, Chad, you know,

1758
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean is a guy who in the three drafts

1759
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: that he has presided over for the Bills has traded

1760
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: up pretty much exclusively. He's done it in two of

1761
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 1: the last three drafts. Did it for both his first

1762
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: round picks in twenty eighteen. And Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds.

1763
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: You know, they've traded up for Cody Ford, they traded

1764
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: up for Dawson Knox. People are openly wondering if they

1765
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: would move back. We've seen it written in a couple

1766
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: of places. Philadelphia wants to get up in the bottom

1767
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: of the first round. Would they, you know, strike a

1768
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: deal for zach Ertz with the Bills and they move

1769
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: back to thirty seven. All I know is Brandon Bean

1770
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: does not like missing runs on a position if it's

1771
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: a position of interest to him. He did that with

1772
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: the Dawson Knocks, trade up to get a tight end

1773
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: when they were flying off the board. He's moving up,

1774
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: he's not moving down. I don't know if you feel differently,

1775
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 1: But what do you think the history of him in

1776
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: the draft says about what he might do? Oh? You do?

1777
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: I do? And what I've found is guys that like

1778
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: to trade up also like to trade down. They're movers

1779
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: in either direction. The only caveat to that is John

1780
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: Schneider out in Seattle. In the last ten years, he's

1781
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: moved down seven times in the first round. Other than him,

1782
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: everybody either if you like to move up, you'd like

1783
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: to move on. I think being and the Bills are

1784
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: in a great position to get the guy, a guy

1785
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: that they want that's in that tier of talent, while

1786
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: still just moving back a few spots. And I think

1787
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: if you can get that later round pick to really

1788
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: increase competition on the back end of the roster is

1789
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: really what you're looking for with those third, fourth, fifth

1790
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: round picks, and if you can pick up some more

1791
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: of those, you know, I just think it's a it's

1792
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: a really good You're going to get a very similar

1793
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: player at thirty seven than you are at thirty and

1794
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: you're going to get an additional pick. So I think

1795
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 1: they're in a position, and it's because they've built such

1796
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: a great roster. I think when you've done that, you

1797
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: give yourself this opportunity to gather more picks and really

1798
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 1: do a great job in the draft. Well, and you

1799
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 1: say about gathering more picks, how about this scenario? And

1800
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: it is are you a proponent of this type of tactics? Say,

1801
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: for instance, the Bills do have the thirtieth pick and

1802
01:37:57,960 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: the sixty first pick. They want to get a guy

1803
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 1: that can make their team and play well, but it's

1804
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: hard to do with the roster as deep and as

1805
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: talented as the one they've constructed already. They won thirteen

1806
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: games last year and should and could have won fourteen

1807
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: without a hell Mary, I mean, they're really good, and

1808
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for these rookies to make

1809
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: this roster. So what about a team in Buffalo's position

1810
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 1: bundling two or three of the later round picks to

1811
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: move up six, seven, or however far they want to

1812
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 1: move up, get inside, you like to Denver at nineteen

1813
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: or whoever's at nineteen, you know, to go up and

1814
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: get a guy they want. Have you seen or what

1815
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: do you think about that tactic? And could it play

1816
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 1: out for the Bills or somebody else? They could, Yeah,

1817
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: they certainly could, because one of those teams in the

1818
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty eight to thirty two range, it's very likely to

1819
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 1: move up into the twenty two twenty one kind of range.

1820
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: But I think Buffalo is not in a position I

1821
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying about. You know, a fifth round

1822
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: pick or a sixth round pick not making the roster.

1823
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: But if you can get fourth round picks are guys

1824
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: that when injuries happen on your team, when those second

1825
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: rounders don't do it, you want more of those picks.

1826
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: So if you're willing to give up a sixth or

1827
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: seventh to move up in the second or third round,

1828
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: those are the guys that are going to have a

1829
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: hard time making the roster. But if you can grab

1830
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 1: the third, fourth round guys, that's really where the meat

1831
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: of the draft is. Really where you're going to find

1832
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: your backups that could potentially come starters. If you can

1833
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: accumulate those guys, I think that is really the way

1834
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: to go. Now what blows that all up is if

1835
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: somebody like Caleb Farley from Virginia attack right, a guy

1836
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: we all thought would be a top fifteen pick, the

1837
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: back surgery maybe drops him. If a guy like that

1838
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: drops into the twenty one twenty two range, then all

1839
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: those teams at the bottom of the first round maybe

1840
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, pushing their way up to get a guy

1841
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: like that. So that's that's really where things like that

1842
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: really happen. Right, And now you know you just put

1843
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: your one of your later mocked draft one of your

1844
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,560
Speaker 1: more recent mocked drafts together, So i'll you do the

1845
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: unveiling here. But as far as the Bills that picked

1846
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 1: thirty and sixty one, why don't you just outline the

1847
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: guys that you mocked to the Bills and tell us

1848
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: why you see them as fits for Buffalo. Well, I've

1849
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: done so many mock drafts that you're gonna have to

1850
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: remind me who I picked at sixty one. But the

1851
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: first one I know that I had them trading out

1852
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 1: and picking Ronnie Perkins from from Oklahoma, the add rush

1853
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: and this guy is he's very much like Jerry Hughes.

1854
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Really would would benefit from playing behind a guy like

1855
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Hughes for a year or two to mature. But he's

1856
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 1: got he's not he's not the biggest defensive end, and

1857
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 1: you know he's just as you can see there on

1858
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: the video. He's not big, but he is explosive and

1859
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: he is strong for his side, so he can play

1860
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: with his hand down even though he's not that big.

1861
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: In fact, that's his best fit. Um, So I think

1862
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,120
Speaker 1: I think he could be a star in the making,

1863
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: but he does need a little time to mature. So

1864
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: I think that would be a great fit for the

1865
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 1: Bills in the second round if they were to trade down. Yeah,

1866
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy a little bit like a

1867
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 1: von Miller or a you know, one of those kind

1868
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: of guys that you know that is a little under size.

1869
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: Unlike a Jerry Hughes. They're not big, massive defensive ends.

1870
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: They're speed rush guys that got a lot of bend

1871
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of athleticism to change direction and a

1872
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: lot of hand use, right I mean, And this guy,

1873
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins, we're talking about you say he needs some

1874
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 1: time to mature. I mean, he had a drug suspension

1875
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: that he got lifted. He had you know, he's got

1876
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 1: one of those issues. And I was laughing at you

1877
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 1: at the break saying, you know, is this one of

1878
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: those guys you got to worry about being eligible to

1879
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: play as much as available, right, And I think that

1880
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: is a concern. That's why we're not talking about him

1881
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen to twenty guys, while we're talking

1882
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: about him as a second round pick. And I've heard

1883
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 1: third round, you know, at some at some moment, but

1884
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: I think in the mid second round, early second round,

1885
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: if you you know, vet him completely, you talk to

1886
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 1: the people, he knows he had an issue. You know,

1887
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's get him into a good program

1888
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: like Buffalo. Buffalo is a good spot for that. And

1889
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 1: I think he could be real value in the top

1890
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: of the second round for somebody. Yeah, And so if

1891
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,759
Speaker 1: the Bills do that trade back, this guy firmly becomes

1892
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: an option. And I just like the fact that in

1893
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 1: his background, I mean, it's widely known this guy was

1894
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: taking on a leadership role as a freshman. This guy

1895
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: was like an alpha dog, and he's going. You go

1896
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, a Power five program, and you're telling seniors

1897
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: what's up as a freshman. I mean, and he played

1898
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot as a freshman, So I mean that that

1899
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 1: impresses me. And I want a guy like that. I

1900
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: want an alpha dog. I want as many alpha dogs

1901
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: as I can find. Right, he is one of those guys, right,

1902
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Chad, He's a guy that has got he's

1903
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: a loud voice, he's a confident guy. But he's also

1904
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: got the other the edgy part of it where it's like,

1905
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, this is the guy that, oh, wow, you

1906
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 1: know he was late to the game today because he

1907
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: got stopped on the way or that kind of thing.

1908
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: You know, he is not lacking in confidence and that's

1909
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: a big deal that that you need to see out

1910
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: of guys on the field to excel. Yeah, I gotta

1911
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 1: tell you, I kind of like that. I I'm a

1912
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 1: big proponent of having a handful of guys you hope

1913
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 1: here on time to the game. You know, you don't

1914
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 1: know where they were last night, but you want them.

1915
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Steve played with some crazy guys, right, I'm a big guy.

1916
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: There are guys like on this team with the Buffalo Bills,

1917
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: now that are you know, if if there's a fight

1918
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: on the field, if they're not in the middle of

1919
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: the fight, they're trying to get there really hard, right

1920
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: because they want to be in there. Right. So, um,

1921
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of you don't win with twenty

1922
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 1: two angels, that's right, that's right. You need you need

1923
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: some guys that are willing to mix it up all there.

1924
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: And it's and we've seen it with other teams that

1925
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots have done it, certainly the Bills have done

1926
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 1: have done it at times or where you've got a

1927
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 1: guy that because of the culture, some of the problems

1928
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: tend not to be a problem in your culture because

1929
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 1: you've got guys right heard on him, right, they they're

1930
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 1: they're like they're they put their arm around him and

1931
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 1: say no, no, no, no, no, no. You got something

1932
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: else to think about, you know that kind of thing?

1933
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: Son like that you're talking about. Yeah, you're talking about

1934
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: guys that are nineteen twenty twenty one years old and

1935
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: they've been the alpha dogs since they were fourteen. So

1936
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 1: now they're coming into an NFL building where you got

1937
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 1: thirty year olds telling them along with coaches and everybody else, like, hey,

1938
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: you listen and you learn for now, and then you

1939
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 1: become a leader when it's your time. Your second mock pick,

1940
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: because you said you needed help with this one, you

1941
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: picked Elijah Molden out of Washington, the cornerback who is

1942
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: got NFL bloodlines as we know son a former NFL

1943
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: corner Alex Moulden, but a compact, powerful kind of frame

1944
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of people feel projects inside to the

1945
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: nickel and I would tend to agree with that, and

1946
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: I think that makes him a very compelling pick for

1947
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: the Bills for two reasons, Chad, and you tell me

1948
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: how you feel about this. Number one, Terren John is

1949
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract as the starting

1950
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: nickel corner here in Buffalo. They just signed Tradevious to

1951
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 1: an extension, Micah Hide to an extension. You can only

1952
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: sign so many guys to an extension at a high

1953
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: priced position like corner. That's number one. Number two, the

1954
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 1: Bills have had a tough time finding a hybrid type

1955
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 1: player to play that nickel role. This was a team

1956
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: that played ninety percent nickel last year on defense, the

1957
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: highest percentage of any team by far. He is an

1958
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: intriguing fit as a nickel I think for the Bills,

1959
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: But let me know how you feel about him. Yeah,

1960
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,560
Speaker 1: And I've projected him there for quite some time. And

1961
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: now that you say, I'm like, oh, yeah, Molden because

1962
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 1: he's a perfect fit for what they need and the

1963
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 1: kind of player he is. You know, he's not running

1964
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: the fastest forty and a lot of teams will probably

1965
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,680
Speaker 1: project him as a safety or a nickel you know,

1966
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 1: teams are now like getting away from necessarily corner and safety,

1967
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 1: but it's nickel outside, you know, that kind of thing,

1968
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: feel boundary. You're kind of breaking it down a little

1969
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: bit more. And Molden is just a football player. You know,

1970
01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, I've said multiple times,

1971
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, Elijah Molden is going to be one of

1972
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: these guys that is a second round pick and he's

1973
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: gonna be making plays for ten years and people will

1974
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: say why was he a second round pick? Basically Anton Winfield,

1975
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, a very similar kind of player to that,

1976
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 1: but Moulden is actually better in coverage, you know, man

1977
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: coverage than Winfield. So he's got that kind of He

1978
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 1: can play nickel, he can play in the slot, he

1979
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:30,600
Speaker 1: can play deep. He did that for Washington often and

1980
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 1: so I think he's just a football player, to be

1981
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: honest with you, more than anything else. And you get

1982
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 1: as many of those guys in the late second round

1983
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: as you could possibly get. Yeah, And you know, we're

1984
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: moving more and more towards positionless football, particularly on the

1985
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and I think he fits

1986
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: where the league is going. And I think he's a

1987
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: guy that can line up against the slot receiver because

1988
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: he has the short area quickness, even if he doesn't

1989
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: have the straight line speed. But at the same time,

1990
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 1: he's got to build where if you want him to

1991
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: be like that hybrid linebacker type in a nickel, he works. Yeah, Yeah,

1992
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew. You know there's a bunch of guys that

1993
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: are in that realm where you put him near the

1994
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You can play him deep, it doesn't matter.

1995
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Just get him on the field, special teams wherever. He'll

1996
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: he'll do whatever you want, however you want, and he'll

1997
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: excel it. What further down the line, you've got a

1998
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 1: guard Whyatt Davis that the Bills could be interested And

1999
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 1: obviously he's further down the draft board, and you kind

2000
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: of see things the way we do. We see cornerback,

2001
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 1: we see edge rusher, and of course offensive line. I

2002
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 1: think it's a team that can never have too many

2003
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: offensive line when you've got the quarterback, they do to

2004
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:45,759
Speaker 1: protect that asset. So tell us a little bit about

2005
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: later in the draft where you've got Whyatt Davis. Yeah

2006
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Davis at Ohio State. A lot of people, I think

2007
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: Chad froze up on us. People were thinking he's a

2008
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: top fifty guy. But oh yeah, I'm still here. Yeah, yeah,

2009
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. We lost you right as you

2010
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 1: began your answer on White Davis. Start again. Sorry, okay,

2011
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: sorry about that White Davis. It was a guy who

2012
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 1: was considered a top fifty pick, not that kind of athlete.

2013
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 1: But he's tough, he's strong, and he is going to

2014
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: come after you. Obviously he's got the genetics as well,

2015
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 1: being related to Willie Davis. And I think he's a

2016
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: guy that, again the Bills may not meet him in

2017
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, you know, barring injuries, but he's he's

2018
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna fill in at some point down the line and

2019
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,599
Speaker 1: be a starter for a long time in the league.

2020
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 1: Really solid, sturdy starter at guard. And you know, Walker

2021
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 1: Little is a very interesting case for me. You had

2022
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: him later in the draft to the Bills length for days.

2023
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's quite I don't know. He

2024
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: strikes me as a little bit of a plotter. You know,

2025
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 1: he's so long that it's hard for him to pick

2026
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 1: him up and put him down, if you know what

2027
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm say. And so, but the length, the length is

2028
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 1: hard to argue with. So, well, this is this a

2029
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: guy that's going to really have to be technique sound

2030
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 1: to succeed on the edge. Well, here's the thing. You know,

2031
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: some people like him in the second round, some people

2032
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: like him in the fourth round, and not playing over

2033
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 1: the last two years really could hurt him. But I'll

2034
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: tell you why. He's as sturdy as they come. He's

2035
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 1: smart and a guy like David Baktiari went in the

2036
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: fourth round. People forget that, and I think Little could

2037
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: be one of those guys in the third or fourth round.

2038
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 1: That doesn't wow you with a lot of things. But

2039
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: he can move enough on the edge, and he's just

2040
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 1: a sturdy player at tackle. He's not going to get

2041
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: beat even by good pass rushers. He manages to win

2042
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: and in the end that really that's really all that matters.

2043
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: On the offensive line, right, you win by hooker, by crook,

2044
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 1: you are going to get the job done. And that's

2045
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 1: what this guy is. The only reason he wouldn't go

2046
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: like in the second round somewhere is because you know,

2047
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: he had the injury and then he didn't play last

2048
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,719
Speaker 1: year and teams are start sure, and like you said,

2049
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 1: he's not an elite athlete, but he's good enough and

2050
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: he's going to start in the league. It's just a

2051
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: matter of how early a team. And the other problem

2052
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: for him is this is a really deep draft at tackle,

2053
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: so he could just be part of a numbers game

2054
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: right and fall down the board, maybe even where his

2055
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,719
Speaker 1: talent you know, doesn't indicate he should be. Yeah, the reason, guys,

2056
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Walker Little could slip through

2057
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 1: the cracks or at least or be drafted a little higher.

2058
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: As he started. He's six seven, three hundred plush. That

2059
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,799
Speaker 1: in and of itself is hard to find a tackle

2060
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: that tall with that kind of Reachum, they don't have

2061
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 1: to be as athletic as a shorter guy because you know,

2062
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: their step and their turnover just moves more. You know,

2063
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: they cover more ground with fewer steps. So he's gonna

2064
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 1: be a guy that's really intriguing to a lot of teams.

2065
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: And there's no question, it's a question of where he's

2066
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: going to get his opportunity and a question of when

2067
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: where he's gonna get drafted right, because he's going to

2068
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 1: be on it. He can play either side too, which

2069
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: is which is really you know, it's important nowadays, right

2070
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 1: with with so many the difference between left and right

2071
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 1: tackle has really been minimized over time. And I would

2072
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: trust this guy on either side of the line of scrimmage.

2073
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: And if you you know, uh, I'm gonna mess up

2074
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 1: his name, but he was a long time Bill's swing

2075
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: tackle tie in Ski and Secky. I never say that, right, yeah,

2076
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 1: but anyway, not right either. But we could become him.

2077
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: That's what what that's what you could You couldn't see

2078
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: from him at the floor. That's his floor. So that's

2079
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 1: worthy of a guy, you know, to have on your team,

2080
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: a guy that can can fill that role for you. Yeah,

2081
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: Walker a little reminds me of a guy he's he'll

2082
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 1: have a ten or eleven your career, and yeah, he'll

2083
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: never be a household name, but he's just gonna be

2084
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: one of those guys that he's gonna he will have

2085
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: a place to play somewhere all the time, because he's

2086
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 1: smart and he's gifted. Talking to NFL media draft analyst

2087
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 1: Chad Router, and you know, Chad, there are some depth

2088
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: positions that we're anticipating the Bills may or may not

2089
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 1: address in the draft as well, safety being one of them.

2090
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: H Dean Marlow, who is one of their reserve safeties,

2091
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: has signed in Detroit and free agency, so there's arguably

2092
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: a hole to fill there. They address tight end in

2093
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: free agency in the form of Jacob Hollister, but you know,

2094
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 1: we still have the arts trade rumors and you know

2095
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: there may be some depth to address there as well.

2096
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 1: So you know, since you're preparing for a seven round

2097
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 1: mock draft, I think you're prepared for this question. What

2098
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 1: might be some good depth options on Day three at

2099
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: positions like safety, running back, tight end for the Bills

2100
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: to consider. Well, it's interesting John Bates from Boise State

2101
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 1: might be an interesting tight end in the fourth round

2102
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: for them if he makes it there. Safety there, that's

2103
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: pretty much where the the value with safety is this year.

2104
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: Like an you know, you can keep Andre Cisco from

2105
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Syracuse right in the neighbor hood, right, I mean, I

2106
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: think that would be a great pick for them. Um,

2107
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of guys you know on day

2108
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: three that are that are going to be real interesting picks.

2109
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: And uh, Damar Hamlin from Pittsburgh is another guy sort

2110
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: of in the area, in the rust build area that

2111
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: would be a great pick for them. Like in the

2112
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 1: fifth round, Um, you're going to be able to find

2113
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: a safety this year a little bit later and tight

2114
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: end it kind of runs short come the fourth round,

2115
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: So if they really want to address that position, they're

2116
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 1: probably going to have to do it before then because

2117
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 1: they don't have this just not as much dead. Oh yeah,

2118
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 1: that's right, So they're to do it at the bottom

2119
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 1: of the third you might have to you might have

2120
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 1: to write. Tommy Tremble from Notre Dame would be a

2121
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: great pick there, Trey McKitty from Georgia. There's a lot

2122
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: of guys in that third round area. Um, that's right.

2123
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: It was the Stefan Pigs deal, right, I remember if

2124
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, So yeah, that was a pretty good trade.

2125
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 1: So they're they're okay there. Yeah, so yeah, I think

2126
01:53:57,080 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: that's really where the tight end that's like at the

2127
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: sweet spot for tight end safety, you can go a

2128
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 1: little bit later. What about a running back, you know,

2129
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 1: after the maybe a third round, as early as third round,

2130
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: if they decide to go running back. And I've I've

2131
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: heard that, and I keep trying to think about my

2132
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 1: mock drafts. Okay, where do I want to stick a

2133
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 1: guy to the Bills? Do I want it to do early?

2134
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: Do I want to do a third round? I want

2135
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 1: to do later? You know, Romandre Stevenson from Oklahoma is

2136
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 1: a really underrated back and I think he is. His

2137
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: footwork is much better than you expect for a guy

2138
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 1: that a lot of people were, you know, saying was

2139
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 1: going to be a fullback. Well, he's not a fullback,

2140
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 1: and he's a little more explosive than Zach Moss even

2141
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: if they are sort of similarly sized. So he might

2142
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 1: be an interesting pick if they really want to speedback.

2143
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: If they're looking for speed, then they're gonna want Kenneth

2144
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,879
Speaker 1: Gainwell from Memphis, who if you've watched what Tony Pollard's

2145
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 1: done with the Cowboys, he could be a very very

2146
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 1: similar back also coming on of Memphis. So it just

2147
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: depends on what they really want. If they really want speed.

2148
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna look at a guy like that. Michael Carter

2149
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 1: from North Carolina probably won't be available for them in

2150
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 1: the third round as another speed guy, but Gainwell could be.

2151
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: And that could be a guy they look at. Yeah,

2152
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 1: he's definitely a fast dude. And could you have a

2153
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: better name as a running back than Gainwell? I mean,

2154
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, I mean, you can't ask for anything better

2155
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 1: as a running back outside of home run touchdown guy.

2156
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and nobody has a last name like that, right, Yeah, listen, Chad,

2157
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, best of luck with your seven

2158
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: round mock will. We will be eagerly waiting its release.

2159
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: Do you know when it's coming out? Do you know

2160
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: when you have to have that thing? What's your deadline? Uh? Yeah,

2161
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna come out either Tuesday or Wednesday before

2162
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 1: the draft, So one of those two days. I'm not

2163
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 1: in charge that above my pay grade. Yeah, I know,

2164
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: I have to get it in by like that Sunday. Yeah,

2165
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,000
Speaker 1: well that's good because that'll be after that. That'll be

2166
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 1: a very healthy thing for us to chew on for

2167
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: a couple of hours while we're waiting for the actual

2168
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 1: have to start. So as always, thanks for the time, Chad.

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01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. That is NFL Media, NFL Draft analyst

2170
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Chad Ruter joining us here, and that guy does it

2171
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 1: backwards to forwards for months. So that's why you can

2172
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 1: ask him a question like give me a depth guy

2173
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,879
Speaker 1: on Day three at running back, tight end, and safety,

2174
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 1: and he can give you some names because I think

2175
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 1: those are positions, Steve, that they're going to be looking

2176
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 1: at later in the draft. I did find it interesting though,

2177
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 1: that he believes tight end drops off precipitously once you

2178
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 1: get to the top a round four and day three.

2179
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: So the Bills, if they want to supplement the position

2180
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: and they don't do it via trade as some are speculating,

2181
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: then you may have to do it before day two

2182
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: is over. If a different approach now, Steve, because you're

2183
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: drafting at the end of the rounds now not in

2184
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: the top half anymore. And so if you're looking at

2185
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: a guy with a fourth round grade, do you have

2186
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 1: to like a high fourth round grade and you're picking

2187
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:08,240
Speaker 1: ninety three, you may have to strike early. Yeah on

2188
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 1: that especially no, when you don't even have a four

2189
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, So I don't know. I'm I'm still

2190
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 1: of a mind. I mean, you stick to your board,

2191
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. But if a guy drops

2192
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 1: to it's that range. I'm still at a point where

2193
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: if you've got a position where you've got a need

2194
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 1: and there's a guy out there that you're like going

2195
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 1: that guy, if that would be our guy, if we

2196
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,040
Speaker 1: were picking first in the draft in a vacuum, that's

2197
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: the guy that would really help us the most, you

2198
01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that guy's out there at

2199
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: fifteen or seventeen or nineteen whatever, why don't you just

2200
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 1: throw the back three picks of your draft away and

2201
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 1: a next year draft pick and say give me that guy. Well,

2202
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I think the Bills of doing something, Yeah, and walk

2203
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 1: away from this draft with three picks instead of seven

2204
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 1: picks that you really believe have a chance to help

2205
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 1: you if not in September, October, November and for years

2206
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 1: and well yeah, but we're knowing the go for it

2207
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: year that this is for the Bills because the window

2208
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 1: is open. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. The window

2209
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: is open. You're still you still have enough of a

2210
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 1: gap between you, i think and the rest of the

2211
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: division where you should take the division again, but that

2212
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 1: gap is going to get tighter and tighter. If the

2213
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins draft well this year, if the Jets draft well,

2214
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 1: they're a step closer. So by the time you get

2215
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 1: to twenty two, you know, now it's a pretty nip

2216
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 1: and tuck race in the division. I feel I still

2217
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: think you're the standard bearer in this division this year,

2218
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 1: no matter what happens in this year's draft, Yeah, no question.

2219
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 1: But I think if if you want to get guys,

2220
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: you've already signed a ton of really good football players

2221
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 1: and there's some you know, we don't know as much

2222
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 1: as the Bills front office knows about them. So if

2223
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: you feel like you've got some solid depth, you got

2224
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: guys you can count on, and you've got them at

2225
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: every position that are too deep all that kind of stuff,

2226
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 1: why would you not? Why would you roll the dice

2227
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: on some guy that's only maybe as good as the

2228
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: guy you've already got. Certainly I get it with the

2229
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: one year options and the one year deals, and maybe

2230
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:19,880
Speaker 1: you can get a rookie at at a cheaper rate, okay,

2231
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: but to get three guys on rookie deals instead of seven,

2232
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: and those three guys on their rookie deals. Hit it

2233
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 1: out of the park. You got a chance to bike

2234
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 1: this team as good as it is. I think that

2235
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 1: may be a strategy I'd like better than pulling in

2236
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 1: seven guys and having two of them do that. Yeah,

2237
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: an interesting strategy to consider. I don't know if Yeah,

2238
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: I could see it happening. Yeah, I mean, I could

2239
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 1: see them ending up with five draft choices instead of

2240
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 1: the seven they currently possess. Like perfect example is what

2241
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 1: we were just talking about. And we could talk about

2242
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 1: this more on the other side, because we have to

2243
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 1: get to break but no fourth round pick. Yes, a

2244
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 1: lot of teams like having a fourth round pick to

2245
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: kick off Day three. The Bills don't have one of those,

2246
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 1: right now? Do they package? They have two fives? Though,

2247
02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 1: so do they package one of those fives along with

2248
02:00:11,080 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 1: their six and seven to get back into the fourth

2249
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 1: round somewhere? I could see him doing that. I could

2250
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: see him doing that too. But I'm now, your day's

2251
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 1: over after round five. I mean, and I get it,

2252
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 1: but they you're never gonna have enough. You're never gonna

2253
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 1: have guys that run out of guys that to fill

2254
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 1: your practice squad. And I get it. You draft a

2255
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 1: guy in the seventh round didn't quite make it, you

2256
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:32,960
Speaker 1: can develop it. That never changes. Just because you drafting

2257
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't find a better guy over here

2258
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 1: to bring into your practice. Frow it. So I'm I'm

2259
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 1: of mine that with this roster in this year, just

2260
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 1: kick kick these draft picks and get a couple of guys,

2261
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: fewer guys that are really got a chance to actually

2262
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 1: help you this year and have a better pro career

2263
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 1: than the guys you would be relegated to picking late

2264
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: in this draft. Break time for us, But when we

2265
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: come back, more of your thoughts on who you think

2266
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: the Bills first two picks should be in terms of position.

2267
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:06,440
Speaker 1: At the very least you heard Chad Rooters picks. What

2268
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: are yours? And the league has just sent the NFL

2269
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 1: offseason workout program itinerary out to their thirty two clubs.

2270
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Speaker 1: We'll tell you what it looks like when we return

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Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Collid to Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. All go back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker review and as promised,

2274
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Speaker 1: the NFL has sent a memo of their offseason workout

2275
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: program schedule to their thirty two member clubs, and it

2276
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 1: is as follows, nine weeks in length voluntary except for

2277
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: the one mandatory mini camp as has usually been the case.

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02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 1: First phase four weeks April nineteenth to May fourteenth, There

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Speaker 1: will be virtual meetings two hours per day at the

2280
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:14,879
Speaker 1: club's discretion, No on field drills or work with coaches.

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02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Facility and weight room capacity limits remain in place. The

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Speaker 1: clubs will make every effort to have the vaccine available

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02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:26,360
Speaker 1: for players, staff and families during the first phase of

2284
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 1: the program. Second phase May seventeenth to May twenty first

2285
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 1: virtual meetings, but there are on field drills with coaches

2286
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:38,080
Speaker 1: per CBA rules. No contact is a teaching pace which

2287
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:42,040
Speaker 1: is essentially a glorified walkthrough. Third phase four weeks May

2288
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 1: twenty fourth to June eighteenth, traditional OTAs ten days in total,

2289
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 1: full speed, but no contact, no pads obviously in person

2290
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 1: or virtual meetings that's to be decided by the team apparently,

2291
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 1: and there is also the three day mandatory mini camp.

2292
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 1: So that's how it looks from the league's perspective. Obviously,

2293
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: we know that the NFLPA has been pushing hard to

2294
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: go fully virtual, and there are a handful of teams

2295
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 1: that have said they will not be participating in the

2296
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 1: voluntary portion of the offseason programs due to COVID concerns

2297
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 1: on their part. So that's where the disagreement lies. That's

2298
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 1: the gap in place between the league and the players.

2299
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 1: So we're gonna just have to sit and wait to

2300
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:37,080
Speaker 1: see where it goes from here, because you and I

2301
02:03:37,160 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: don't have any skin in the game, nor do we

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02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 1: have any influence on what's going to happen here. So well,

2303
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: we're all just innocent bystanders waiting to see how that

2304
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:47,480
Speaker 1: gets ironed out. It'll be interesting. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: the more I look at it now, the more impressed

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Speaker 1: I am with what the league and everybody did last

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02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 1: year when this got dropped on them with no warning

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Speaker 1: and they with no nothing in place, and they got

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Speaker 1: it up and running. And I do think there was

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Speaker 1: a little bit less face it. This is a little

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Speaker 1: bit different year with the Union on the ownership. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the union was looking at getting shut out and not

2313
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 1: making any nobody's gonna make any money, nobody's gonna play,

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Speaker 1: So there was a little bit of an all hands

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02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: on deck to get this thing done attitude on both

2316
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:25,880
Speaker 1: the Union and the league side of the aisle. But

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Speaker 1: and this year that's not quite the case. But it

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02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from the fact that the accomplishment it

2319
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 1: was to get all that done last year with all

2320
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Speaker 1: that oh my gosh testing every day for these guys,

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Speaker 1: every day they got tested and sat separately and never

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02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, until they were on the field, they were

2323
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:52,400
Speaker 1: never together, just nuts different locker rooms, they spread out everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Nothing was normal. The accomplishment that was to get that done.

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Speaker 1: And now looking at going through it again, or at

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Speaker 1: least partially going through it again, I don't blame the

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02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 1: union for going guys, why I don't you know, they

2328
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:05,560
Speaker 1: don't want to go through this going in and and

2329
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:07,839
Speaker 1: if nothing, if nobody's getting tested all of a sudden,

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02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's only it's been two months since the

2331
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 1: season was over and they were getting tested every day.

2332
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna tell me it's like, hey, everything's okay

2333
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 1: now when the numbers are going up and it all

2334
02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:23,839
Speaker 1: especially in a state like Michigan. You heard the Detroit

2335
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:27,120
Speaker 1: Lions are one of the latest teams to basically make

2336
02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 1: the same NFLPA statements saying we're we're not attending the

2337
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 1: voluntary portion of you know, our offseason program. You know

2338
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 1: you've got spikes and infection rates in Michigan and twelve

2339
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 1: other states. It's just it's not good. Yeah. Um, you

2340
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 1: know there's an ulterior I think players have been pushing

2341
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 1: for a virtual offseason based largely on the fact that

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02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 1: they can. They have a leg to stand on now

2343
02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 1: because they did it last year. The product on the

2344
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 1: field didn't suffer to any great degree. Maybe on defense

2345
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: you could argue that it did, but it certainly didn't

2346
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 1: from a point scoring perspective. They were breaking records and

2347
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: that might have something to do with the lack of

2348
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 1: effectiveness on defense. As Mike and Hide even told us

2349
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 1: in Week two, Hey, we had no pads on last year.

2350
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 1: We haven't tackled anybody for real because they didn't even

2351
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 1: have a preseason. So maybe that changes with a real

2352
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 1: preseason and you can tackle people, So maybe that goes

2353
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 1: out the window. But the players want an all virtual offseason,

2354
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 1: the less time they have to travel into their the

2355
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 1: city in which they play during the regular season and

2356
02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 1: could kind of stick to their own devices. Now I've

2357
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 1: seen the argument on the other side, Steve. You know,

2358
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 1: they say there's COVID concerns, this, that, and the other.

2359
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 1: How is it any different from where they live or

2360
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 1: the gyms they might be going to to stay in shake,

2361
02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, well, it is, it is different. I mean,

2362
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 1: here's the thing as well, it's you would argue it's

2363
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 1: better in the controlled environment of an NFL facility and

2364
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:04,880
Speaker 1: it is where they're training. Well, they're yes, absolutely, I

2365
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 1: think that's pretty hard to argue. It is because you've

2366
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 1: got guys that are in the same in the building

2367
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 1: with the exact same goals and motivations to make it

2368
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 1: work as you do. Now, you go to Tom Dick

2369
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 1: and Harriet right, whatever, Jim you're going to, you go

2370
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 1: out there. You're in there with soccer moms and soccer dads.

2371
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: You're in there with with with guys who are wannabes.

2372
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 1: You're in there with guys who weekend warriors, right, weekend warriors.

2373
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 1: You're in there with guys who are you know, street

2374
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: fighters or whatever. They don't have the same goals and

2375
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:37,560
Speaker 1: responsibilities that you do. And they're not they don't have anything.

2376
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 1: They're not getting paid millions of dollars either. Also, this,

2377
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 1: if you're in the building at one Bill's Drive or

2378
02:07:43,880 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 1: at Patriot Place or Baltimore Way or Raven's Way or

2379
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 1: wherever you are around the league. If you're in their building,

2380
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 1: you're on their dime. If if you twist your ankle,

2381
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: blow your knee, they they they take care of it well.

2382
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 1: And they're responsible or your safety. That's right. And they've

2383
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 1: got and they've got a staff that you hatering to

2384
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: your every need. They've got a staff that I'm not

2385
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 1: saying that other gyms don't have pro staff. They do,

2386
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 1: absolutely they do. But you got a relationship with these guys.

2387
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 1: You got the relationship with those guys. You were in

2388
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,080
Speaker 1: a season with them, they were working with you during

2389
02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 1: the you know, you know them. They're friends, they're not

2390
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, well, they're not giving you the best deal

2391
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:26,560
Speaker 1: on your membership. You know that they're not. You're not

2392
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 1: going to them because they're the lowest bidder, you know so,

2393
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 1: And it's you'd be hard pressed to find a better

2394
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 1: facility than this one. And that goes in some respects

2395
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 1: to every NFL city and every NFL team. They got

2396
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 1: state of the art guys and people, um and all

2397
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 1: of those people have skin in the game that you

2398
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 1: do so it's hard to argue that the best place

2399
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: to work out is not at your team facility. I

2400
02:08:55,280 --> 02:09:02,760
Speaker 1: get all that, and it's it's hard to argue. You

2401
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 1: just can't. Yeah, it's just better there. The good friend

2402
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 1: of the show, Judy Batista from NFL Network, in response

2403
02:09:09,480 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 1: to the summary of the offseason program memo that went

2404
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:14,560
Speaker 1: out to the thirty two teams, she says, I would

2405
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 1: expect a lot more talking between the NFL and the

2406
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:22,480
Speaker 1: Players Association, with May seventeenth the deadline before anybody would

2407
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:25,600
Speaker 1: be on the field. Also, Phase one sounds like a

2408
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:30,000
Speaker 1: very big vaccination effort because they said clubs will make

2409
02:09:30,040 --> 02:09:32,920
Speaker 1: every effort to have the vaccine available for players, staff

2410
02:09:33,320 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 1: and families. Obsuring the first phase of the program, you

2411
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 1: can they're gonna make every effort to make vaccination wholly available,

2412
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 1: not only to the players themselves, but their family members

2413
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:49,480
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. I don't want to go down this

2414
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 1: road to protect they're trying to protect their assets. Yes,

2415
02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:56,280
Speaker 1: it is. It's an economic and business decision, not only

2416
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 1: by Bye you know, the people to say you've got

2417
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 1: to be vaccinated come to a game, but also by

2418
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 1: everybody else who's got a vested interest in getting the

2419
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:07,840
Speaker 1: economy grinding again. You know, they want to get it

2420
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:10,440
Speaker 1: jump started, and to do that, they need more people

2421
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 1: out there that aren't afraid of getting sick. And what

2422
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:15,880
Speaker 1: was the biggest opened their doors and what was the

2423
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 1: biggest hiccup to the twenty twenty season if there was

2424
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 1: one fans well fans, but from a product on the

2425
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:25,280
Speaker 1: field perspective, it was suddenly not having a player available

2426
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 1: for a game because he's just tested positive. Where if

2427
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:35,440
Speaker 1: he's vaccinated, that issue is largely mitigated, largely mitigated, not rope,

2428
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 1: not wiped out, but largely men can say they're not

2429
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,160
Speaker 1: if you're vaccinated, they're not even going to test yet. Yeah,

2430
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 1: if everybody's in the room's vaccinated, they're not even gonna

2431
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 1: run tests. You can come in, sit down, sit on

2432
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,560
Speaker 1: each other's laps, and that nobody cares. And that's a

2433
02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:51,760
Speaker 1: cost savings too, right, And and it'll make you more

2434
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 1: efficient in your day to day preparation. Your practices are

2435
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna be smoother, your transitions are going to be smoother,

2436
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 1: the locker room's gonna be smoother, everything's gonna be smoother.

2437
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: If not everybody, if nobody has to get vaccinated and

2438
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:04,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to wear a mask, and you don't

2439
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:06,880
Speaker 1: have to sit eight feet away from this guy, and

2440
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:08,480
Speaker 1: he's eight feet away from the other guy, and that

2441
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 1: guy's eight feet away from the coach who's actually teaching you. Yeah,

2442
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,040
Speaker 1: and your meeting room as the fieldhouse, you're yeah, and

2443
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 1: your meeting room you're forty yards from the guy who's

2444
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 1: actually got the cursor in his hand with the overhead

2445
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 1: right literally. So yeah, it's a big push by the

2446
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:29,560
Speaker 1: by anybody who has a business like the size of

2447
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,840
Speaker 1: this one and every other business around the carry you

2448
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 1: want to open your doors and do business as usual,

2449
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:38,360
Speaker 1: And that's there. Everybody who has a hand in that

2450
02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 1: is pushing for that to happen. And the first step

2451
02:11:41,720 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 1: one is vaccination. It's probably gonna take another way, you

2452
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 1: agree with the find out what it exactly looks like.

2453
02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 1: Break time for us, Steven I to close it up.

2454
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 1: When we return here on One Bills Live. We'll see

2455
02:11:51,000 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 1: in a second. What the heck have we learned? Brought

2456
02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 1: to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment round company

2457
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,520
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, Well, we learned what the league

2458
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:19,440
Speaker 1: would like to see the offseason program look like. We

2459
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: also are pretty aware that the players Association doesn't want

2460
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 1: it to look exactly that way. Where will they meet

2461
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 1: in the middle somewhere remains to be seen. Steve doesn't

2462
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 1: believe this is going to be a major bonu. I can.

2463
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:36,960
Speaker 1: I think they get to a place pretty quickly, too,

2464
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:40,040
Speaker 1: don't you. I get why the union's doing this. Yeah,

2465
02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:43,000
Speaker 1: and I know this too from the owners. Everything's negotiating.

2466
02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 1: You don't want to just give them anything, right, I

2467
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:46,920
Speaker 1: mean you want to get something in return where the

2468
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:49,839
Speaker 1: owners want to get in return. Give them whatever offseason

2469
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 1: the players want, but you gotta get something back, like

2470
02:12:53,920 --> 02:12:56,000
Speaker 1: an eighteenth game. If you don't want us to touch

2471
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna give us another game when we do play,

2472
02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 1: because we're paying you millions of dollars. So if you

2473
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,240
Speaker 1: don't want any practice in the off season, we're going

2474
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:06,680
Speaker 1: not seventeen games. We're going eighteen games and two preseason games,

2475
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 1: and we'll do it the way we want. I mean that,

2476
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 1: if you want that offseason the way you want it,

2477
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 1: what are you given us for it? Because we don't

2478
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 1: have to do that. Yeah, right, So I get it.

2479
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:23,000
Speaker 1: It's all negotiation, and the only people who really care

2480
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 1: about the off season are players and coaches. Players want

2481
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 1: free time, coaches want field time, field time. That's the

2482
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 1: that's where that's the cruxt and the tension in this

2483
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:40,040
Speaker 1: negotiation because the owners don't care. They could not possibly

2484
02:13:40,120 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 1: care less unless they could get something back in return.

2485
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:45,040
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, that's right, that's the that's in it

2486
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:47,640
Speaker 1: for me. That's right, and that's the way it's run.

2487
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 1: That's the way the world turns. Bruce Leavage, Oh, you

2488
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 1: don't have to tell me. I'm getting and listen, the

2489
02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:53,600
Speaker 1: players can say, okay, you can do all that. Just

2490
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:55,520
Speaker 1: give us an extra half or full percentage of the

2491
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:58,680
Speaker 1: revenues that we're going to get through this CBA, and

2492
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:02,520
Speaker 1: we'll make it work. It's come on, let's go get

2493
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 1: this going. That's what I'm trying to do right now.

2494
02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:07,600
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's show more NFL Draft Wall to wall Bucky Brooks

2495
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:10,080
Speaker 1: from NFL Network, Maddie Glad will be here with the

2496
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 1: mock Draft watch update, and Connor Or We'll see you

2497
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Speaker 1: tomorrow