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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Batch Happy Hour listeners. I am so excited

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Speaker 1: to be here again after another crazy week with you all.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. And before we begin, I

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Speaker 1: have to just say, unfortunately Tia, who obviously has been

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Speaker 1: my incredible sidekick throughout Paradise, cannot be joining today. She

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Speaker 1: had some stuff up at home come up, so just

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Speaker 1: send her some of your love her way and we

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Speaker 1: will hopefully have her back on next week to do

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Speaker 1: a fun recap. So in lieu of that, why not

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Speaker 1: ropen all of you, because I know that all of

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Speaker 1: our listeners have some burning questions that you have been

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Speaker 1: dying to ask us. You write in each and every week,

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Speaker 1: and so we've compiled a bit of those to kind

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Speaker 1: of tie into this recap and get into some of

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Speaker 1: the craziness that we sall go down in the past

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Speaker 1: two nights, because it was a lot. And before we begin,

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Speaker 1: I have to say we have a guest coming on

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Speaker 1: A huge narrative throughout this entire week was people being

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Speaker 1: in relationships prior to coming on to the Beaches of Paradise.

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Speaker 1: So we have Atlanta coming on very shortly to give

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Speaker 1: her side of things to say her piece, because we

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Speaker 1: did not see that take place on the beach this week.

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Speaker 1: So before we bring her on, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: into the first question here, which is submitted by Jewel

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Speaker 1: who asked someone said Joe and Kendall had been engaged

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Speaker 1: at one point, but were they Now this is something

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Speaker 1: that Joe cleared up on last week's Clickbait podcast, so

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Speaker 1: if you haven't already tuned into that one, please go

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Speaker 1: back and listen. But Joe and Kendall were not engaged.

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Speaker 1: They obviously started their relationship on the last season of Paradise.

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Speaker 1: They lived together for I would say a little over

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Speaker 1: a year, close to two years, and had a very

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Speaker 1: very serious relationship, but they were never engaged. No rings

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Speaker 1: were given out. And yeah, so the next question, let's

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Speaker 1: see here, all right, This one has to actually deal

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Speaker 1: with me and my one on one date with Thomas,

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Speaker 1: because I obviously picked him, which I know, watching it back,

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Speaker 1: So I want to clear the air here. Thomas and

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Speaker 1: I actually we were at the VIP party the night

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Speaker 1: That him and I just sat and talked for like

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Speaker 1: We formed some sort of connection conversation whatever it might

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Speaker 1: I know that there's also speculation out there that I

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Speaker 1: that's why I ended up picking Tamas for the date.

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Speaker 1: Just you know, if nothing else, I feel like it

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Speaker 1: would have been a fun, good, lighthearted conversation. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: She will, I know, speak very much into this, into

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Speaker 1: the detail on her side of things on Clickbait this week,

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Speaker 1: and for anyone listening who isn't aware, Natasha is my girl.

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Speaker 1: She's one of my dear, dear friends, and she is

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Speaker 1: is complete bullshit. That's not the case. It's it just

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Speaker 1: so happened that they both formed a connection with one another,

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Speaker 1: he formed with Piper. If we all recall he mentioned

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Speaker 1: not forget that. Another question that we got was just

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Speaker 1: solely editing, which isn't the case. I mean, you see

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Speaker 1: Brendan at one point playing with his microphone and trying

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Speaker 1: to muffle up certain conversations. I don't think they fully

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, the technology for the show is impeccable.

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Speaker 1: It's been a show for decades that has lasted for

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Speaker 1: this technology. So everything that we as contestants say or

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Speaker 1: the entire experience for everyone who steps foot on the

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Speaker 1: it's not real. That was something just for me because

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Speaker 1: seeing different conversations. It's always interesting. That's one thing, whether

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Speaker 1: It's not always easy, it's not always fun. It's really

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Speaker 1: difficult at times, which I'm sure any contestant on the

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Speaker 1: and I could keep going because so many of you

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Speaker 1: wrote in good questions, funny questions, random questions, So please

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Speaker 1: keep writing in because hopefully one day Tia and I

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Speaker 1: was part of a lot of the drama this week,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately her side of the story wasn't fully able

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Speaker 1: to give her take on everything that happened between her

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Speaker 1: and Chris and maybe even Porta to the arrival of

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Speaker 1: her on to Paradise. So, without further ado, Bachelor Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour listeners please welcome Alanna to the podcast. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour, Alanna, How are you doing. I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, of course, Well, this is the

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Speaker 1: first time we've had you because on your past season,

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Speaker 1: you know, you left a little bit earlier, I would say,

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Speaker 1: so now is the time that we can get to

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that. We'll get into the evening after

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Speaker 1: in that interaction was the kissing, because at one point

432
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: you were kind of like teaching him how to kiss

433
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: and how to, you know, like place his body and

434
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: how to sit and what to do with his hands.

435
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: It's I was dying because it was he looked so awkward,

436
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: like this was his first kiss, right, Yeah, I was

437
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: gonna say it just looked awkward. So like, once you

438
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: got into it was their passion, Like did you feel like,

439
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: oh I could see myself dating this guy or were

440
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: you just like we're already here, We've already gone through

441
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: some drama. I s him on a date. Obviously there's

442
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: tension back at the resort with him, Like, what was

443
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: going through your mind in that moment? I was just

444
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: trying to make the most of it. I think that

445
00:25:53,119 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, we had some awkward positioning problems. Yes, kiddings,

446
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: sitting next to each other on a couch is not.

447
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: It was not easy for us, but no, it was good.

448
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: It was just awkward positioning and neck angles. No. At

449
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: one point too, I think like he kind of then

450
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: sat up and push you back, push your head off

451
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: the couch, and you were like, Chris, no, you have

452
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: to keep my head up. And I was just like,

453
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: oh lord, somebody needs to teach this man how to

454
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: use his body with the woman that he's into. I

455
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: think he was having a bad day. Yeah, he was

456
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: having a rough go. Yeah, but he okay at the

457
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: end of the day, even if you have a rough go,

458
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: if you're still into somebody and you know, trying to

459
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: make out with somebody that you want to date and

460
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: be with, like put that aside. Did you feel then

461
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: leaving that date and walking back, you know, down the steps,

462
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: entering back onto the beach with everyone down there, did

463
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: you feel confident in what you and him had established? Um?

464
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean aside from the awkward part. We did have

465
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: good kissing standing up so good just for the record,

466
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: was great. It was just a sitting sitting it would work. Um.

467
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: But I think that, you know, he's I was interested

468
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: in him before Paradise because he was just always so

469
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: kind to me and like very respectful, and that's the

470
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: kind of person that I could see myself with because

471
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: I've been with a lot of guys who are the

472
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: exact opposite of that, and so I was looking forward

473
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: to seeing where it could go at that point. You know,

474
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't one set on him, you know, I still

475
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: wanted to possibly explore things with other guys at the beach.

476
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: There were guys that hadn't shown up yet that I

477
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: was maybe looking forward to seeing, and so I feel

478
00:27:54,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: like I was excited, but I wasn't like set completely

479
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: like all in, yeah, yeah, I get that. I mean

480
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: it's one day, so it's kind of hard to be well,

481
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: and that's what Paradise is all about, is dating and

482
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: getting to know multiple people to see who you have

483
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: the best connection with. So I mean, yeah, we've seen

484
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: it with multiple couples already where they go off on

485
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: other dates just to explore what's out there. So I

486
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: don't think, you know, anyone would fallt you for that

487
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: by any means. When you got back to the beach,

488
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: were you at all caught off guard? When Joe pulled

489
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: Chris to talk to him. I was a bit oblivious

490
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: at that point. I didn't know that that had been

491
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: being talked about while we were gone. I thought people

492
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: were just upset because of the night before. I didn't

493
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: realize that the narrative had been created that we had

494
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: already been a couple outside of the show. So that

495
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: was shocking to me to find out to turn around

496
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: and just see kind of Chris just getting ripped apart.

497
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know a house to describe it.

498
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't fun for me. I just had a really

499
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: good day with him for the most part, aside from

500
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the couch kissing. But yeah, it was hard. It was emotional,

501
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't slept and oh, I know, yeah,

502
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot to take in, especially

503
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: in those circumstances. I mean, well, like when everyone kind

504
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: of started going at Chris and the argument started getting

505
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: pretty heated, I would say, what was going through your

506
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: mind at that point? I just hurt, so many things

507
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: that weren't true being said, and all I could think

508
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: was I need to say something, I need should say something,

509
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: But I'm not confrontational at all, and it just seemed

510
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: like such intense energy happening over there that I don't know,

511
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: I feel like. I waited for a minute and then

512
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: I just asked, like, does anyone want to hear what

513
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I have to say? And no one did, which I

514
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: will say, so I wasn't there that night. I actually

515
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: left for a date, so I was gone the entire

516
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: evening when you and Chris came back, and so I

517
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: was getting filled in the next day about what we missed,

518
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: what went down on the beach, and they everyone had mentioned.

519
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: At one point, you know you guys came back. It

520
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: got superheated. Everyone kind of started to call out Chris

521
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: for his behavior and you know what they thought he

522
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: had planned I guess during his time on Paradise. But

523
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: when I will say this, when I heard that you

524
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: had jumped in and been like, Hey, does anyone want

525
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: to hear what I have to say? And everyone was

526
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: like no. I was like, let the girl speak. Like

527
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: to me, that seemed like bullshit. If you wanted to

528
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: get like the full story, like, regardless of if they

529
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: liked Chris or if they believed Chris or not, you

530
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: still had, I would say, an opportunity to give your

531
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: side of things and to shut rumors down, to be like,

532
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: we weren't in a relationship. Sure, we were friends, we

533
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: were acquaintances, whatever it was. But I think it's terrible

534
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: when people just totally shut someone down and don't even

535
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: hear their side of things, Like I don't think that

536
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: was fair, and I think it maybe would have allowed

537
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: for you potentially to have stuck around with a little

538
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: bit longer, you know, whether Chris wanted to stay or not.

539
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I think it would have allowed you your voice to

540
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: be heard, to put the rumors to bed. So say

541
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: you were allowed to have the floor and they let

542
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: you speak, what would you have said in that moment?

543
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Do you think I probably would have just said none

544
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: of what you're saying is true and just said everything

545
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: I've said to you here today. You know, Chris and

546
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: I were friends as far as I'm concerned. There was

547
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: no plan here, you know, I I don't know. I

548
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: just would have asked everyone if they could relax a little.

549
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: It just it seemed so intense and so aggressive and angry,

550
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: and that's not how I handled myself at all. I

551
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: really just wanted the opportunity to say this was not planned.

552
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you guys don't like the way that

553
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: it's being handled. I empathize with that. If the roles

554
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: were reversed, I would feel the same way. You know,

555
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: it's not I don't think that he made all the

556
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: right decisions. I'm not going to say that he did,

557
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: but it would have been nice to just say, look,

558
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: I didn't plan to come here and have a relationship

559
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: with Chris. And the fact that you don't even care

560
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that. You know, we don't always have to

561
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: believe people when they tell us something, but you kind

562
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: of just have to hear them out and then be

563
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: okay with it. Do you think had you had that

564
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: moment to say your piece and to say, you know,

565
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: we didn't have anything planned, we weren't dating prior to this.

566
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Had you had that moment, had Chris still decided to leave,

567
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: do you think you would have stuck around? Would you

568
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: have wanted to stay knowing that you know, you said

569
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: your side of things. Chris as a grown man, he

570
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: can make his own decisions. He made his bed, now

571
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: he has to lie in it. Would you have wanted

572
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: to stay longer? I think it would have depended on

573
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: the reception from what I said, because at that point

574
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: it felt just really toxic and uncomfortable, and I felt

575
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: like everyone hated me, to be honest. So you know,

576
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: if they had been nice and warm, possibly, but I

577
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: just at that point, if things had continued to stay

578
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: the way they were and I felt so much hostility

579
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: from other people, I probably would have left. Okay, So

580
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: fast forward then too, we see you and Chris having

581
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: a conversation on one of the couches after all of

582
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: the drama with him went down, and he explains that

583
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: he wants to leave. He doesn't think this is the

584
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: place for him anymore. What was going through your mind,

585
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: because this was the interesting part before you sets down

586
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: onto the beach, before everyone went after him. You guys,

587
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: it seemed like you both felt confident. And again, I

588
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: know you're saying you maybe wanted to stay to explore

589
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: anything else, but I think he, on his end, still

590
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: felt like I have this connection with you. He wants

591
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: to stay and explore that. And regardless of if he stayed,

592
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: or not, Like it seemed interesting that even though yes,

593
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: there was so much combative energy coming at him, Like

594
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: if he's truly feeling what he's saying to you, I

595
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: thought he would have still wanted to give that a

596
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: go and see where it could go. Like if he

597
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: really wanted to pursue a relationship and be with you,

598
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: he would have. So when I saw him just get

599
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: up and walk away, I was like, what the hell

600
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: are you doing? Man? Yeah, it didn't something wasn't lining up.

601
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 1: And that's where it goes back to, you know, things

602
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: weren't going his way. Maybe he wasn't going to be

603
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: portrayed all that well, and that's when he kind of

604
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: had this like fight or flight response to just leave.

605
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: So were you confused by that? By what he was

606
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: just telling you about ten minutes ago versus when he's

607
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: like I'm done, I'm out by and just walks away

608
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: from you. It was definitely confusing all around. I mean

609
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: I expected to walk down from the date and you know,

610
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: maybe not everyone was happy to see us, but I

611
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: didn't expect that. So I felt super overwhelmed in that

612
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: moment and nothing really made sense that it was just

613
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: like one more thing added to the list of everything

614
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: that's going wrong today. Now you're leaving when he asked

615
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: me to leave with him, Do you want to talk

616
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? Oh of course, yes, please do. I

617
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: mean I did feel confident in Chris, you know, at

618
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: that point, but the whole point of paradise, which I

619
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: felt like was missed into higherly, you know, for my

620
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: brief time on this show, was that the point is

621
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: to date other people. You know, you you come into

622
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: this environment and you you want to end up with

623
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: someone that you truly want to be with, and you

624
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: have to explore different things during that process, and so

625
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: I did want to have a chance to continue to

626
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: do that. I mean doesn't mean that I wasn't happy

627
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: with how our date went, but it would have been

628
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: nice if all of that angst hadn't come along with it,

629
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: so that I could have had that opportunity. Where do

630
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: you stand now? Because we saw this was another part

631
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: that got me, because we saw you both leave. You

632
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: got into your van ready to pull out, and Chris

633
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: pull you know, tries to hop into your van with

634
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: his backpack and luggage and you're like, Chris, this is mine.

635
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: So we see him then move into his own van

636
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: and you guys pull away? Where did you leave it?

637
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Have you talked since then? Are you in a relationship

638
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: with him? Now? Where do you both stand? I mean,

639
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: I in that moment was so mad at him because

640
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, how could you have done this

641
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: to me? And I was kind of blaming him for

642
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: you know, everything that was happening. I feel like he

643
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: was just really in over his head and he you know,

644
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I like, I hate to say this, I'm sorry. Men

645
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: are really stupid sometimes and like they don't handle things

646
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: a well all the time, they really and they don't

647
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, they don't think things through, they don't think logically.

648
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: They just kind of do whatever they want when they

649
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: want without thinking about it. And I feel like he

650
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: was so overwhelmed that night that he wasn't making any

651
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: good decisions, and my reaction to him reflected that. I mean,

652
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go anywhere with him in that moment.

653
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk to him nothing. After the show.

654
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: You know, he was super apologetic, he felt, and it

655
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: took me like a while to reciprocate reaching out to

656
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: him because I was just so disappointed. You know, I'd

657
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: you prepare a lot to go to paradise. You know,

658
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: you go through a lot, and I was freaking worked

659
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: out NonStop, and then I didn't even wear a swimsuit.

660
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: And I know that that's like the point is to

661
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: find love, but it's also like, you know, you want

662
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: to enjoy the full experience. You want to hang out

663
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: with people and make new friends and you know, really

664
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: have that experience, and so I was just angry with

665
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: him for taking it away from me. And I feel

666
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: like I got to a point after the show where

667
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I remember the Chris that I was friends with before,

668
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a nice person, you know,

669
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's a bad guy. I feel

670
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: like he again handled himself incredibly poorly. So you know,

671
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: he is in my life and I've forgiven him, like

672
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: we're okay with each other. You know, I've seen him

673
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: a few times. I don't have any problem with him

674
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: now because of the show. You know, I've let a

675
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: lot of that go. I like to let things go.

676
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to see people talking about me

677
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: now and saying things that are setting and having not

678
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: had them apologize for them. That's hard for me to

679
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: let go. But he was so apologetic and just you know,

680
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: he's been a really big support system for me because

681
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: not a lot of the people from the show have been.

682
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: So you say you've talked and he's still in your life.

683
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: Is that strictly platonic? Like no relationship after that other

684
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: than just a friendship now, I mean we've he's taking

685
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: me on a bunch of day. It's like, oh, so

686
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: we're dating. Huh, I'm so, I'm I'm I have to

687
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: be honest, like, I'm very scared to talk about it

688
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: because I feel like it'll it'll look a certain way

689
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: and you know it. But the fact is that we

690
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: weren't dating before and that's that's I don't like the

691
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: truth that I have to share. Yeah, and I don't

692
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: think it would look a certain way. I mean, like, look,

693
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, people and viewers are

694
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: going to take him or run with whatever they decide

695
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: to write. Like if you guys, you know we're in

696
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: a relationship before Paradise, you know, really had your first

697
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: proper date, I would say on the show. And obviously

698
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: you left apart, but you still can now explore a relationship.

699
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: Like the show bonds people in such a weird way.

700
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: That I don't think anyone who doesn't go through it

701
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: will understand. And if he was there for you after

702
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: it and all of this craziness and when things are

703
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: really heightened right now, I don't think that's a bad thing.

704
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: I actually think, like I commend you for, you know,

705
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: accepting the apology and moving forward from that, because it

706
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: can really like make or break people. It can make

707
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: or break friendships, relationships, like it's a it's a hard

708
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: thing to deal with that no one viewers won't understand.

709
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: And that's okay, And I think it's okay to own

710
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: the truth and say that. And if you don't feel

711
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: comfortable sharing details of whatever you are right now, I'm

712
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: not going to pry. I don't pry too much. So

713
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: if I ever make you uncomfortable, just tell me to

714
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: shut the f up. But yeah, I mean, look, if

715
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: you guys are happy and exploring whatever this could be,

716
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: I say, go for it. At the end of the day,

717
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: love is love is love, and you can't help who

718
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: you fall for, so not to say that your love

719
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: or anything. As you were speaking earlier though about you

720
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: know how when when you left, you were just so

721
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: disappointed in how he reacted to the criticism on the

722
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: beach and how he just kind of, you know, brushed

723
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: his hands and walked away. Had he gone through all

724
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: of that and still said like, yeah, that sucks and

725
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: I hate being attacked like that, but I have your

726
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: back and I want to pursue this. If he would

727
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: have just stood up a little bit more and recognized

728
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: maybe your position too, and just been like, fuck everyone else,

729
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: let's just do this and see where this could go.

730
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Would you have like, how would you have I think,

731
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: process all that. Would you have been attracted to that

732
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: and be like, okay, you know, like it's going to

733
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: be tougher a little bit, but let's see this through.

734
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: And that's hot that you're standing up for me and

735
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: that you have my back. Yeah. No, it definitely would

736
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: have been nice to have it go down that way,

737
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that had that happened and

738
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: I had been able to stay, he had stayed, I

739
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: think people would have realized they were maybe kind of

740
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: projecting from other things going on at the beach onto us,

741
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, and everything going on with Brendan and Piper

742
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: had just been so fresh that I feel like that

743
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: was already in people's minds and maybe they would have realized,

744
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, a few days later that Okay, we can't

745
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: lump these two in with that because it is a

746
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: different situation. Yeah, And I think too, there was just

747
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: so much happening on that beach. I think tensions were

748
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: already so high with people assuming you and Chris maybe

749
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: we're in a relationship or had some sort of packed

750
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: before Paradise. The same with Brendon and Piper. Like, there

751
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: was just a lot of this narrative of people already

752
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: being in some sort of established relationship that I think

753
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean those couple of days, I will say, like

754
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: the night of that party, in the next couple of

755
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: days after that, things were so heightened, and that was

756
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: like all, not all, but a huge majority of the

757
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: conversation was around that of people, you know, like, don't

758
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: come to Paradise if you're already talking to someone or

759
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: already in a relationship. There was just so much talk

760
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: about having conversations or being in some sort of relationship

761
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: prior to Paradise. And I will say, I think it

762
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: was easy for people on the beach to kind of

763
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: lump you and Chris in that situation into the same

764
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: category as like the Piper and brendan situation which to

765
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: me and from living on the beach with everyone, was

766
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: two completely different things. Like, yeah, you and Chris had

767
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: hung out in a group setting, we're friends. You didn't

768
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: have a plan, or you weren't already dating, You did

769
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: not already have an established relationship, versus the Brandon and Piper,

770
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: where they were basically in a relationship, they were already established,

771
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: they did kind of have some sort of plan coming

772
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: in where whoever gets there first will stick around and

773
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: tell the other one comes and do what they have

774
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: to do to play the game, as they've said. And

775
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: so I don't want people to see your situation with

776
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: Chris and Seed theirs and be like, oh, it's the

777
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: same thing, because it's not. It's vastly different. It's not.

778
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like I said before, Chris and

779
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I had never been on a date before the show,

780
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: We never hooked up, nothing like that. You know, it

781
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: was strictly a friendship group settings. It's different. And I

782
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: think the main thing that shows the difference is that

783
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: I came into it excited to see Chris, but still

784
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: wanting to explore things with other people. And that was

785
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: not how Brendan and Piper were going to carry through

786
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: with the rest of their experience. I think that's what

787
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: it comes down to, is like people thought you and

788
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: Chris had some sort of plan coming into Paradise and

789
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: talking to you. That was not the case. And I

790
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: think with Brendan and Piper, the plan was very very transparent.

791
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, certain things and the way that they were

792
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: talked about, the way that their interactions were prior to Paradise,

793
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: it was very apparent you guys had no intention of

794
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: coming down and being like, Okay, you know this week,

795
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: this is what you have to do to solidify your

796
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: spot here, and then once you're here, we're going to

797
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: be all in. Like there was none of that, and

798
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: that's why that's actually why I want to have you here,

799
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: is to say your side of things, to give your

800
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: piece and to shut those rumors down because I know

801
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: how that that's important. And if I was in your position,

802
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want people lumping me into the same category

803
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: as Brendan Piper and what they were doing, because that's

804
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: that hurt people, Like yes, I know, I understand, Justcenia

805
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: was hurt in this, and I don't want to downplay that.

806
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: But the way Brendan and Piper executed this plan that

807
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: they had is vastly different from what happened with you

808
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: and Chris. And so that's why I want you to

809
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: clear the air and say your side here, because now

810
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: it's the opportunity because you weren't allowed to on that beach. Yeah. No,

811
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't allowed to say anything. Everyone made sure

812
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: of that. But I had no plan with Chris. You know,

813
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: we were friends, that was it. There's a huge difference

814
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: between Chris and I knowing each other already and Brendan Piper,

815
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: who were already dating. Yeah. Well, and yeah, you had

816
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: said you guys hung out twice in group settings. It

817
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: wasn't I'm assuming romantic. It wasn't like you were going

818
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: on dates. Who didn't see Chris off right before he

819
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: left for Paradise. There was none of that part. Why

820
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: do you like we flirted, We were attracted to each other,

821
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: but we nothing like that, Like a line was never crossed. Look,

822
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: nothing's wrong with a little healthy flirting. We've all done that.

823
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: It's it's the you know, hey, what are we we

824
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: like each other? Once we're both on the beach together,

825
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: We're all in we're gonna like do what we have

826
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: to do to get a rosy each week, to stick

827
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: around waiting for the next person to come, yea, And yeah, exactly,

828
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: that's not the point. And for you to still be

829
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: open to seeing what the beach had to potentially offer

830
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: if it didn't work out with Chris, and even the

831
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: fact now that Chris has helped you through a really

832
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: difficult time and you you know, had to kind of

833
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: reform this friendship and let it grow into something potentially stronger.

834
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you should feel ashamed of that. I

835
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: don't think you should be worried about that. I mean,

836
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: I get like wanting to keep your relationship close to

837
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: you in private. I understand that part, But I don't

838
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: think you should be ashamed of where you and him

839
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: are at at this point. Yeah. I think I've just

840
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: learned personally that for me, you know, for other people,

841
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: clearly it works, but for me, relationships and friendships are

842
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: best formed offscreen, you know, like not on camera, not

843
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: in a controlled setting. And so I have kind of

844
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: taken like a lot of time to think about this,

845
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: and I just know that for me, like the ability

846
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: to have privacy on certain things is important for me

847
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: now because I did not stay on the show, so

848
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't really owe that all that information to the pot,

849
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: like know what I mean, Like it's mine and I

850
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: can share it when I want or I don't have to.

851
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: And I like that about this, the fact that I

852
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: have the ability to have privacy whereas a lot of

853
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: these people don't. At this point, Oh, I love that

854
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: you just said that. Seriously, everyone needs to rewind for

855
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: the past forty seconds and listen to what Atlanta had

856
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: to just say, because I think it's so easy for

857
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: viewers and listeners to think, oh, because you signed up

858
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: for a show one time, everything in your world is

859
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: open at any given time, and that's not the case.

860
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: So I'm so happy that you just said that, because

861
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: that's true. You know, you can choose to go on

862
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: a TV show for one season and then choose to

863
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: still keep your relationship private or keep any part of

864
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: your life private, and that's okay, And that's what people

865
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: listening need to remember, and it's just important to you know,

866
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: also realize that so many people met before Paradise that

867
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: were there this season, you know, not I didn't just

868
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: meet Chris Pipered and just meet Brendan, but no, Jessenia

869
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: and Chris hung out before Paradise and it was no

870
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: different than him and I hanging out before Paradise. Right,

871
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: People just want to fixate on the little details of

872
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, what will some ruffles and look like I mean,

873
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: I went on to the beach knowing probably three fourths

874
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: of the people because I've talked to them, I've had

875
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: them on the podcast, I've either met them at you know,

876
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's such a small world, dispatchelor nation

877
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: world full of contestants, and again, it bonds people in

878
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: such a weird way that of course, like everyone's kind

879
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: of talking and and what I think people need to

880
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: realize too is like everyone's talking, but it's not always romantic.

881
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: It's not always to see what kind of relationship could be.

882
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: It's friendships, it's leaning on one another, it's supporting each

883
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: other and so and that's an okay thing. I think

884
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: there's such a taboo of like, oh my god, you

885
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: cannot talk to anybody before you step foot on the beach,

886
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: which isn't the case. You just again going back to

887
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: a plan or you know, having some sort of like

888
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: manipulative like scheme going into it. That's where it's not Okay,

889
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: that's not what paradise is about. But no, exactly, and

890
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: I know that, like I just said, ya, one point

891
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: calls me out for you know, being there for the

892
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: wrong reason and not just having a plan, but for

893
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: like you know, being like getting the fame out of it.

894
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: And you know, that just was so funny to me

895
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: to hear, because it's like, I sorry, Chris, but like

896
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: if I was in it for that, why would I

897
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: go for Chris cy who the pigeons Home? Yeah? Yeah, no,

898
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good point. I don't know, I

899
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: just I feel like, you know, and I feel like

900
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: this is important to say because a lot of people

901
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: talk about this. But you know, obviously the fort like

902
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: the main intention of going on one of these shows

903
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: should be to find love. You know. It's that's something

904
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: we all want where I'll sing people that are looking

905
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: for our person. But it's kind of ridiculous to call

906
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: people out for something that people themselves get benefits of,

907
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, like the exposure that say Joe and Riley

908
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: and jes Senya get, you know, they take I don't

909
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: know how to say this properly, but they get advantages

910
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: from that. So then to come and say that to

911
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: people who have never posted ads and aren't very active

912
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: on social media are there for that reason and use

913
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: that as a negative thing to say when they themselves

914
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: do that. I just I don't understand why that's a

915
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: reason to talk poorly about people when they do it themselves. Listen,

916
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: everyone who will be seen on the show, at some point,

917
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna have some sort of you know, it's going

918
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: to boost you in some way, shape or form form.

919
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: It's just the exposure, the awareness of you. So it's

920
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: like it's impossible for anybody who steps foot on the

921
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: beach to not get a bump in Instagram followers or

922
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: brands Rooch, you know, or whatever it might be. Like,

923
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the beast, given our world

924
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: and our social climate. Like that's just it is what

925
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: it is. But yeah, it's unfortunate to hear people like

926
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: try and use that as a way to cut others

927
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: down that are on the show when they take advantage

928
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: of that, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

929
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask you now though, is

930
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: because obviously, as you mentioned, going into Paradise, you would

931
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: all hung out in a group setting as friends. Where

932
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: do you stand with Jennia. Have you been able to

933
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: have any sort of dialogue with her post filming Paradise

934
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: to kind of hash anything out or to explain anything,

935
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: or have you you know, have you not connected with

936
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: her whatsoever. I reached out to just Senia after the show,

937
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't really feel like I did

938
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: anything wrong aside from being affectionate with Chris in front

939
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: of her. That was my one regret of being on

940
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: the show. I felt like that was wrong. I remember

941
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: watching that happen with Blake and Dylan and Hannah and

942
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, poor Dylan, and like, I

943
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: just felt so bad. So I I realized how wrong

944
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: that was, and in that moment, I was, you know,

945
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: just caught up in the moment and things happen. I

946
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: apologized to her for that, and you know, I just

947
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: said it was sad that this narrative was created about

948
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: Chris and I and she didn't receive my apology very

949
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: well and just kind of said that, you know, I

950
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: got what I asked before basically. So we haven't spoken

951
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: since then. Okay, well, Alanna, it was so great to

952
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: have you on before you hop off, is there anything

953
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: else that you want to share with any and all

954
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: of our listeners. I was going to say, anyone all

955
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: of our listeners, or any more of your side of

956
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: things that you want to make sure is out there

957
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: for everyone to know from you. Well, thank you for

958
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: having me. I really appreciate you giving me this space

959
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: to finally talk. And I just, you know, just that

960
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, I did not have a plan with Chris.

961
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: I was excited to see him, and that's really the

962
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: extent of it. And I hope that people can see

963
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: that and you know, think for themselves amongst all the voices,

964
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: and you know, I really just like don't want any

965
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: hard feelings between myself and anyone that's on the show.

966
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 1: But like you said, you can't please everyone, So yeah,

967
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: I just I'm happy that I got to share the truth, yes,

968
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: your side of things, which I think is important because

969
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: again it should have been allowed on that beach and

970
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: unfortunately wasn't. But that is why we had you here today.

971
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: So what is next for you next? For me, I

972
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I moved back to the States from Canada

973
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: in January and I'm just trying to figure out where

974
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to settle down and I'm starting a business,

975
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: so I'm focusing on myself right now. Good. I love

976
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: to hear what business is it. It's a conscious clothing line.

977
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: So it's just basic pieces that are multifunctional so you

978
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: can wear them, you know, and to go out or

979
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: to sleep in. Basically like, oh my gosh, my type

980
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: of clothing and I love this. That's so exciting. Well,

981
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: stay in touch. We would love to follow along and

982
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: see all of the incredible things to come. And who knows,

983
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: maybe a Skewed Paradise relationship came from all of the

984
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: craziness that we saw from this past week. So thank

985
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: you so much for joining, Take care and stay in touch.

986
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bye. Becca.