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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. We're coming to see you soon. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's correct. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a

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<v Speaker 1>production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, there's guest producer Roll over there. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>that makes this Stuff you Should Know um, featuring Chucks,

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<v Speaker 1>John Travolta, and me as Christians Later. Lowell is Frank Whaley.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he in that? Yep? He had the great line,

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<v Speaker 1>are you ready for it? I don't know what's scarier

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<v Speaker 1>losing a nuclear bomb? He didn't. He didn't say this

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<v Speaker 1>with this much reservation. He really delivered the line. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He also didn't comment on his own line while he

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<v Speaker 1>was giving it, or that it happened so often there's

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<v Speaker 1>a name for it. Yeah, that's a good line. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a great line. It's it's a long, clumsy line. But

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<v Speaker 1>he delivered it really well. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I ever saw broken arrow Oh I didn't either.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just alive in the nineties, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>cognizant of it. Yeah. I thought at first you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Saturday Night Fever with Christians. Later sure, no, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. Do you remember we talked about Sarah like

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<v Speaker 1>fever must have in the Disco episode where it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that the article it was based on was just

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<v Speaker 1>totally fabricated. Remember that's right. That's such a great soundtrack, man,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the all time best. Yep, But we're

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about broken arrows, and uh, I got

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<v Speaker 1>this idea. This was one of my commissions, was because

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<v Speaker 1>I had um, I had someone on movie Crush. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we did Doctor Strange Love, the great great movie from

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Kubrick, which factors into this stuff some And he

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<v Speaker 1>brought in a stack of papers and just said here

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<v Speaker 1>for your desk, and it was a list of all

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<v Speaker 1>the broken arrow incidents. And there were a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty of them, So I don't know if what

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<v Speaker 1>all was included. We'll get into some of the terminology

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<v Speaker 1>of what kind of falls under the banner of a

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<v Speaker 1>broken arrow. But but a broken well, we should just

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and tell everyone what a broken arrow is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we should. As defined by the Department of Defense and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from the Air Force, is an accident

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<v Speaker 1>involving a nuclear weapon or warhead or nuclear component, or

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<v Speaker 1>an unexpected event involving nuclear weapons that could result in

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<v Speaker 1>um accidental or unauthorized launching, firing, what else, uh, detonation, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>jettising them, sending them, uh damage to him, accidentally dropping them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I've got to say, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's worse, accidentally dropping a nuclear bomb or that it

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<v Speaker 1>happens so frequently. There's a name for it. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Whaley. Sure you can go to your trailer. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a I mean, that's a broken arrow. And

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a if you've seen that movie Broken Arrow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's um about Christians later foiling John Travolta, um after

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<v Speaker 1>he steals a nuclear bomb. That's actually technically not a

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<v Speaker 1>broken arrow from what we know. That's called an empty quiver,

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<v Speaker 1>which works with the broken arrow. But I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>had to do with a stolen nuclear bomb, which led

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<v Speaker 1>me to think, like, hey man, we've basically already done

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<v Speaker 1>this one. We did how easy is it to steal

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear bomb? Remember that? Okay, this is really very

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<v Speaker 1>much different. This is basically when a US military personnel

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<v Speaker 1>screws up big time as far as a nuclear bomb

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, or there's some terrible accident with a nuclear bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it's not something that's going to lead to war, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like an accidental launch of a nuclear weapon

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<v Speaker 1>against the Soviet Union back in the Cold War. It's

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<v Speaker 1>dropping a nuclear bomb on your toe. That's a broken arrow, basically. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always thought broken arrow. I was wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it kind of only meant that you lose a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear warhead somehow. Well, that's what Travolta's lies. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>father of lies. That's what he teaches us. Yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been misled by Travolta. Yeah, have you seen him? He's

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone bald. Now have you seen him? Good for

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<v Speaker 1>a man? Has he? Yeah? He finally just just ripped

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<v Speaker 1>off the old rug said this is me, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a great being. He looks fantastic. Oh, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for him. That's good because he's been hiding

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<v Speaker 1>that for decades. So, uh, we should talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>few other points of terminology that might pop up. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something called a pinnacle level incident, and that basically means

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<v Speaker 1>that any kind of incident where it's so big that

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<v Speaker 1>it really goes up all the way up the military

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<v Speaker 1>chain to the very top. Yeah, it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, it's a big deal as travel towards. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a few more incident codes that I think

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty interesting. Um, there's one called a nuke flash,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means an accident or incident that could be

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<v Speaker 1>the precursor to the trigger of nuclear war. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. That's the Yeah, that's the one where there's

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody accidentally sets off an intercontinental ballistic missile toward Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like one that can lead to you nuclear war.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you read that as new flash? I read

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<v Speaker 1>it as nut flash. That's funny. Uh. What about front burner? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>front Marina is triggered by any hostile It is pinnacle

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<v Speaker 1>level and it is triggered by any hostile attack against

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<v Speaker 1>US forces. Uh. And it's not necessarily a nuclear incident. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, it can be. It can lead to a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear war. So it's kind of considered part of that

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<v Speaker 1>whole family of nuclear jargon. Yeah. And also, don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I said it's a hostile attack by someone that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not already at war with. That is a big caveat,

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<v Speaker 1>because I guess if you're if you're already at war's

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<v Speaker 1>front burner, front burner, there's another front burner. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point to make, dude. Um there's also

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<v Speaker 1>empty Quiver, which is that's the name that should have

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<v Speaker 1>been given to the travolt A Slater movie. Um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the nuclear weapons stolen. Um. And I gotta say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's scarier than a nuclear weapon can

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<v Speaker 1>be stolen, or that it happens often enough that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a name for it. Uh, do we go over bent

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<v Speaker 1>spear yet? No, not to be confused with burning spear. No,

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<v Speaker 1>a bent spear is an incident, nuclear incident that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, but it's not pinnacle level. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>like if someone violated a regulation or a procedure or

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<v Speaker 1>something when you're storing or transporting a nuclear weapon. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a three Stooges level type of nuclear accident

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<v Speaker 1>um where nothing, nothing, really bad results from it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just somebody screwed up. And Ed gave this example.

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<v Speaker 1>I had not heard of this one, but apparently in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seven there was a burning spear. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that was genuine. There was a bent spear incident um

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<v Speaker 1>where six armed nuclear warheads were loaded on a B

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two and they walked away slapping the dust off

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<v Speaker 1>of their hands and turned in for a good night's

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<v Speaker 1>rest and did not leave a guard. These six armed

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear warheads were left aboard a B fifty two that

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<v Speaker 1>was unguarded overnight and the next morning they flew him

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<v Speaker 1>across the country as scheduled. Okay, so nothing happened. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one of those ones where you find that

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<v Speaker 1>you've bitten down to your cuticles because you're just so

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<v Speaker 1>mortified at the idea of how bad things could have gone.

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<v Speaker 1>But they just just we just narrowly averted crisis. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any of these other terms that matter to you? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well we'll talk about We'll go over some

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<v Speaker 1>broken arrows later and some actual incidences. Um, but we

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<v Speaker 1>should talk a little bit just about nuclear weapons. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They are very much classified as to where they are,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Upper Brass basically has an exception to that

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<v Speaker 1>where if there is an incident and it presents a

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<v Speaker 1>hazard to the public, like boy, we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>people out of there, and we actually need to cop

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<v Speaker 1>to this thing. Uh, then that is an exception where

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<v Speaker 1>you can reveal that they're like surprised you're living near

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<v Speaker 1>some nuclear warheads. He didn't realize it. But over there

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<v Speaker 1>in that silo, it is it is not wheat I get.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the impression. Also, where you know, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty soldiers suddenly converge on a farm field where

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<v Speaker 1>a plane went down, Um, it's it's usually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>already old news to the locals that there's a nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>bomb somewhere in play, especially if this happens to take

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<v Speaker 1>place during the fifties or the sixties, which were the

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<v Speaker 1>the worst decades in American history for near miss nuclear accidents. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting. I never really uh, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just thought like, oh, it's because technology, and that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of true, and that uh, in the fifties and sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to drop a nuclear bomb, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they say drop a nuclear bomb, because you were literally

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. It was not attached to some missile on

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<v Speaker 1>some base. It was in the belly of a plane

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<v Speaker 1>and you flew over a site and opened doors and

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<v Speaker 1>dropped a bomb. Yes, the right, that's how you delivered

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear bomb. And so because planes were so intimately

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<v Speaker 1>connected with delivering a nuclear bomb. Early on in the

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<v Speaker 1>Cold War, there was a guy who took over Strategic

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<v Speaker 1>Air Command and I think ninety seven, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>an old bomber pilot and he said, look, man, here's

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<v Speaker 1>our new strategy. We're going to keep bombers loaded with

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear bombs in the air at all times. There will

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<v Speaker 1>always be multiple B fifty twos flying around with loaded

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear weapons all the time, ready within striking distance of Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this thing was called Operation Chrome Dome, where

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<v Speaker 1>pairs of B fifty twos would take off for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour missions. They would refuel in the air. There

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<v Speaker 1>would be multiple pilots aboard so that they could trade

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<v Speaker 1>off shifts because they would stay aloft for twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and then before they came back to base the land

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of twenty four hours, another pair would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken off. And from what I saw, UM, at

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum of Operation Chrome Dome, there were always at

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<v Speaker 1>least four B fifty twos in the air flying these

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<v Speaker 1>routes like near Russia. UM, usually there was twelve in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. And then during the Cuban Missile Crisis, at

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<v Speaker 1>the height of Operation Chrome Dome, there were seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>B fifty twos in the air with nuclear weapons ready

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<v Speaker 1>to strike at any given time. And because there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many planes taking off and landing constantly with nuclear bombs,

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<v Speaker 1>the chances of an accident with one of these nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>bombs escalated tremendously. And that was these decades, the decades

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<v Speaker 1>that Operation Chrome Dome lasted, UM when these nuclear weapon problems,

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<v Speaker 1>what we call broken arrows, really kind of stepped up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean that's if you've seen Doctor Strangelove, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that uh, you know, there's kind of three parts

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<v Speaker 1>to the story. In one part is up in the

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<v Speaker 1>air in one of these bomber planes. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Slim Pickens and James Earl Jones are doing up there.

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<v Speaker 1>They are just manning a flight that is flying close

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<v Speaker 1>to the Soviet border and uh, hoping that they just

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<v Speaker 1>land and take off again the next day and fly

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<v Speaker 1>and it's boring and they land again, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the ideas, you do this over and over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing ever happens. Um. But of course in Strangelove

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<v Speaker 1>things go wrong. Um. But that yeah, that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing up there. Yep. So that's operation Chrome Dome

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<v Speaker 1>and UM. Eventually the we developed innercontinental ballistic missiles, those

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<v Speaker 1>ones that you talked about, like in in the ground

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<v Speaker 1>in a base. They were capable of striking Moscow from Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>When we developed those in the sixties, we said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need this Chrome Dome strategy any longer. But

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<v Speaker 1>also because there were so many accidents, and because the

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<v Speaker 1>accidents were so costly bad and yet still just near

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<v Speaker 1>misses from a nuclear explosion. UM, the idea of this

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<v Speaker 1>chrome dome strategy was like, we we can't do this anymore.

0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.839
<v Speaker 1>This it's just too too risky. Basically, should we take

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<v Speaker 1>a break? I believe so, Charles, all right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a break and we'll talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the nuts and bolts of how a nuclear bomb works

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<v Speaker 1>right after this. All right, Chuck. So if you're I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should do a nuclear um bomb episode someday,

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<v Speaker 1>where do we go over? This? Was it during the

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<v Speaker 1>meltdowns episode? Yeah? It must have been like a fission reaction, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it does seem pretty pretty familiar, it doesn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what a nuclear bomb is is is

0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:18.439
<v Speaker 1>detonating and instigating or causing always starting stuff a fission reaction. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was the early ones, right yeah. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>how this works as a nuclear reaction is plutonium and

0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:31.320
<v Speaker 1>uranium UM being compressed and smashing into other plutonium and

0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:37.560
<v Speaker 1>uranium to get a nuclear fission reaction going right. Uh?

0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.680
<v Speaker 1>And the early uh, I guess h bombs is what

0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they call them initially, right, hydrogen bombs? Well, atomic bombs,

0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I think initially yeah, atomic bombs who were very rudimentary,

0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>rudimentary Wow, Yeah, tried to dress them up by adding

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<v Speaker 1>an extra syllable, but they were still rudimentary. They were rudimentary. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, the UH, the very first bombs that

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<v Speaker 1>were dropped on Hiroshima actually fired a gun type mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>to set off this reaction. Right, It was like, yeah,

0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they would shoot uranium at uranium and that that would

0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.080
<v Speaker 1>set off the fission reaction, and like, you can produce

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty substantial um explosion like they did over her

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<v Speaker 1>Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Right, And but compared to the other

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<v Speaker 1>way that they later quickly figured out, I believe in

0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the fifties they moved over I think those were the

0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen bombs thermonuclear bombs where they used fusion, where it

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<v Speaker 1>was an implosion that pressed the material, the plutonium or

0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.600
<v Speaker 1>or the uranium together to create this nuclear reaction. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when you got something in the yield of mega tons,

0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:53.680
<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of tons worth of TNT explosive power,

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<v Speaker 1>where the one in Hiroshima was like fifteen kilo tons,

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen thousand tons of t n T. Yeah, and

0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.960
<v Speaker 1>thank god they hadn't figured that out at that point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because those earliest broken arrow ones were like, dude, if like,

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<v Speaker 1>if this had been like a fusion bomb, who knows

0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what would have happened, although I can't tell if if

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<v Speaker 1>one was safer than the other. And Ed rightly points

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<v Speaker 1>out the reason all these were near mrs was because

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, scientists thought, we need to include some

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<v Speaker 1>fail safes here so that if something does go wrong, um,

0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a cascading string of multiple failures have to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain order for this thing to actually go off,

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<v Speaker 1>or you have to make it so it's purposefully happens

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<v Speaker 1>in this order to actually go off, and that if

0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.800
<v Speaker 1>one thing doesn't happen in this this cascade, then the

0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.080
<v Speaker 1>thing won't actually have a nuclear detonation. And the the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the scientists worked in these safety mechanisms, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what kept like South Carolina and North Carolina from having

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<v Speaker 1>entire town's level the nuclear explosions accidentally. That's because what

0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.240
<v Speaker 1>happens now with this implosion that it is this nuclear

0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:09.040
<v Speaker 1>material is packed and surrounded by high explosives, just regular

0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:13.040
<v Speaker 1>conventional explosives, and this is you know, these things go

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<v Speaker 1>off and they create a big boom in and of

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<v Speaker 1>themselves that is very dangerous. But like you said, there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many safety features built in and unless you

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<v Speaker 1>have that um, that exact implosion pattern that you need,

0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it might be scary. But uh, these high explosive going

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<v Speaker 1>off don't necessarily mean that there will be that fusion reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it gets shot, like let's say somebody, you know,

0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody bombs your bomb, that doesn't doesn't necessarily mean and

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<v Speaker 1>probably means it won't happen. It will it will again

0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.200
<v Speaker 1>be a big boom, and but it will break apart

0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that nuclear material and just scatter it around. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to compress it. And the way you need to

0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>create that fission reaction. No, And that's that's what a

0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>dirty bomb is. It's where you're you're not creating a

0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.280
<v Speaker 1>nuclear explosion, but you're explo osian is spreading radioactive material

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.400
<v Speaker 1>that contaminates an area, which is bad enough, but it's

0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.760
<v Speaker 1>not nearly as bad as an actual sustain nuclear explosion.

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.600
<v Speaker 1>And because the the nuclear bombs were made in such

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<v Speaker 1>a way, like you said, that explosive pattern has to

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<v Speaker 1>happen exactly just so you're probably not going to get

0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that same pattern if that those explosives go off from

0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.320
<v Speaker 1>hitting the ground after being dropped fifteen thousand feet or

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.040
<v Speaker 1>in a burning in a jet fuel fire from a

0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.879
<v Speaker 1>crash jet. They will still explode, like you were saying,

0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's not going to create that nuclear explosion. It

0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>still will make you bite your finger nois cuticle though, Yeah,

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it'll it'll go up that pinnacle chain, right. Um. I'm

0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.560
<v Speaker 1>also not sure about how bombs are now, but I

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.520
<v Speaker 1>know that for a while and maybe that's still still

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<v Speaker 1>the case. They're just physically distanced, like those explosives are

0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.920
<v Speaker 1>are not right next to the nuclear capsule, and that

0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 1>distance can actually help event those nuclear explosions. Yeah. Or

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.880
<v Speaker 1>there's like um an electra, an electronic circuit that has

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to be completed for the detonator to go off, and

0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 1>so if even if it's exposed to flames or impact,

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it's still not going to go off because it's detonated electronically.

0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 1>There's like more safety systems that they worked in. But

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<v Speaker 1>initially one of the earliest ones they had with those

0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.240
<v Speaker 1>imploding h bombs was that they just simply wouldn't put

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<v Speaker 1>the core of the nuclear material that was to be

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<v Speaker 1>imploded in the bomb. It really just be like a

0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:37.320
<v Speaker 1>five thousand or you know, twenty thousand ton bomb of

0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 1>high high yield explosives, of high explosives, but the nuclear

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:46.560
<v Speaker 1>core wasn't plugged into the center, so it might be

0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 1>on the same plane, but it wasn't plugged in. And

0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.200
<v Speaker 1>at least some cases in other cases in the the

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:57.800
<v Speaker 1>military used that the the core wasn't inserted into the

0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 1>bomb at the time excuse very frequently to basically say

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.440
<v Speaker 1>there was really no chance of this becoming a nuclear explosion.

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of debate about just how true

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that is in some of these instances where some of

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>these were fully armed nuclear bombs that just so happened.

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 1>We lucked out that the the um the pattern of

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>explosion with the high explosives didn't follow the right the

0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.880
<v Speaker 1>right pattern to set off that that nuclear reaction. Yeah,

0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and again, um, these protocols came about in the sixties

0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and seventies, which is why most of these, I almost

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.800
<v Speaker 1>all these broken arrow incidences were in the fifties and sixties. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen nineties, I think in nineteen ninety there

0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 1>was a technical report on the safety of our arsenal

0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>conducted by independently by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and they

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<v Speaker 1>vary and this is great for for you know, the

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 1>general public. In dumb dums like us. They just gave

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<v Speaker 1>it like a school rating, like A through F basically

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<v Speaker 1>on all the all the weapons that we've used from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty to seventy six and or no, I guess

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>up until the nineties. But every weapon from fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six received a D except for one, and that

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that one was the minute Man two and it got

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<v Speaker 1>a C plus C plus C plus, which is pretty

0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>nice especially among these. But everything else got a D

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 1>for twenty six years. Right, that just got it just

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 1>goes to show you, like just how poorly these things

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:39.640
<v Speaker 1>were um safety mechanized, I guess. But even still, even

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>despite you know that, like they still went to some

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>extent to make them safer, but they just hadn't gone

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>far enough. And yet despite that, we still didn't manage

0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to accidentally blow ourselves up with the nuclear bomb. Despite

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.360
<v Speaker 1>all the broken arrows that we have gone through, which

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 1>will now go through, should we take a break and

0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.639
<v Speaker 1>then go through some of these are sure? Do some

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I can break that little word playing no, no, Well,

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break, all right, take a break, right, yeah,

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:34.360
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with broken arrows. Okay, Chuck, So

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<v Speaker 1>we um we As far as we know, the military

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.959
<v Speaker 1>will cop to thirty two broken arrows in the history

0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>of the Atomic Age as far as the United States goes, um,

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>other countries have their own, and apparently the Soviet Union

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>had at least as many, if not more, than we did,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you've seen Chernobyl you know that they were

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<v Speaker 1>probably like hundreds more. Yeah, yeah, and and possibly the

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>same for us. It makes a really good point that,

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the once the intercontinental ballistic missiles came along

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't need Operation Chrome Dome anymore, broken arrows

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>all but vanished. But it's also possible that the military

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>just decided, like, we're just not going to publicly announce

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>these things any longer, which is entirely possible. Who knows.

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>But as as far as it goes officially, there have

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>been thirty two broken arrow pinnacle incidents that have happened

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>in the nation's history, and some of them are just

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>absolute doozies. Yeah, so we'll go over some of these. Um.

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess we can start with the first one, just

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>for nostalgia's sake. This was February a B thirty six

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>B Peacemaker bomber uh set flight from Alaska, and this

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>is just a training mission where they want to simulate

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear strike against Russia. But they did have a

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>big bomb on board. It was a five thousand pound

0:23:55.840 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>bomb with just a conventional explosives that wasn't uh UM

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>or at least a Department of Defense in the Air

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Force say, and we're gonna be caveating all these because

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you know we we can only say what they told us.

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But they said that there was no plutonium core on

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.360
<v Speaker 1>the plane. Um. But this is one of the planes

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>that took off had engine trouble. The crew bailed out

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>and set off the bomb in the air and then

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>bailed out of the plane and the bomb luckily went

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>off over the ocean, right. And this this kind of

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>strikes at the core of a lot of these accidents.

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Like whenever you hear about um like or whenever you

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>think about, why haven't we've been obliterated by a meteor

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:40.120
<v Speaker 1>or something, it seems like the world is just full

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of people, but there is way more empty land and

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>water still then there are massive amounts of people. So

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we haven't been hit by the big asteroid,

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>or that a lot of these bombs go off in

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.880
<v Speaker 1>places where there are no people. It is lucky, but

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the stats are also in our favor. Yeah, it's either

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that or we're live being in a computer simulation one

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the two exactly, or in the matrix. So um

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that was the first one that was in nineteen fifty

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the government says there was there

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<v Speaker 1>was only like a um A uh what what did

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you call it? Uh? Like what was the kind of

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>UM flight it was on? Just like a training mission? Training? Yes,

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 1>so there was a training plug inside of the thing.

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>It was it's made of lead rather than plutonium. And

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>that actually probably holds up to scrutiny because in the

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 1>early fifties they that's the kind that they were using.

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>There were small enough that you could send one of

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the pilots or one of the co pilots or somebody

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to the back to actually arm the nuclear weapon with

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the plug, and if they were on a training mission,

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>there really wouldn't be much used for that. So that

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>probably was a non nuclear bomb that went off. But

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>by the the late fifties, the the government had moved

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on to much bigger bombs and because they decided that

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>they needed to be hair trigger ready. They were armed,

0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>despite what the government says. They're These type of bombs

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>that they moved to are called sealed pit weapons, where

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 1>that core was inserted and then the bomb was sealed

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and then it was loaded onto the plane. So the

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>plane was flying around with a fully active, ready to

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>go nuclear bomb. So anything starting in the late fifties

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>onward is suspicious. If the government saying that it wasn't

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>an active nuclear bomb, that's right, very true. Here's another one,

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>and we're just kind of picking through these. I think

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>gave us like seventeen or eighteen to choose from, but

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought like all thirty two were on here. No, No,

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it just seemed that way. Uh, this one in March,

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>and this represents sort of one that's happened a few times,

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>which is where a plane and the bomb in the

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>plane will just vanish, never to be heard from again.

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And that happened on March tenth, the B forty seven

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>strato Jet. It was most to refuel in mid air

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>over the Mediterranean Sea, but the plane never showed up

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>for that dinner date. And uh, they never found the plane,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.959
<v Speaker 1>and it had two nuclear capsules and they were never

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 1>found either. And Um, that was I think nineteen fifty six.

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>You said, if you fast forward a little bit to

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty eight, that was a really really bad year

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>for broken arrow incidents. I mean, if you're a fan

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 1>of broken arrow incidents, it's a great year. But for

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the rest of us, it was a bad year. Um.

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>From January thirty one to March eleven, there were three

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>So in less than six weeks there were three broken

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 1>arrow incidents, two of which were among the most famous

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>broken arrow incidents ever to take place. The first one

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>produced what's known as the Tybee bomb. You've heard of

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the Tybee bomb. Okay, So, Um, there was a B

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>forty seven that was on a training flight and stance,

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this is nineteen fifty eight. It's entirely possible that it

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>was a fully active nuclear weapon that it was flying

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>around with the government says no. Other people say absolutely was.

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>But Um, the on the training mission, the B fifty

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>two or I'm sorry, the B forty seven was, um,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>became in contact with a fighter jet it was also

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>training and pretending to attack it, and they accidentally knocked

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 1>itself out and knocked the B forty seven out the

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the B forty seven crew ejected the jettison the bomb,

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and four weeks afterward they looked around Tybee Island to

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>find this bomb and they still to this day haven't

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>found it Tybee Island, which is off the coast of Savannah, Georgia. Uh.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And he said that the Fight six was pretending to attack.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It was a just like a training thing. Yeah. Yeah,

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and it got too close and I think took its

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>own wing off and crippled the B forty seven. I

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>think peo peo peo the whole time. Yeah, basically, And

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a Mark thirty six bomb too.

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>This is really important. It was a four ton hydrogen

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>bomb that may have been fully active. And it's just

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>somewhere off, like right off of the coast of Tybee Island, somewhere.

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>If you've ever been to Tybee Island, this explains quite

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a bit about Tybee Island that there's a four ton

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen bomb just sitting right off the coat. Now, what

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Are you knocking Tybee? No? I think

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>j yeah. Jerry loves Tybee. It's a great place. It's

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>its own place, and I love it for that. But

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>also super duper weird. Well, what I can't figure out

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>is why they can't find this thing. That just seems

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>it just seems impossible to me that you can't find

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>this given that Tybee is not the hugest place. Uh No,

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think it's just one of those needle

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in the haystack things. By now, it's probably been covered

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>with so much like silt and sediment, they may never

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>find it. But I read this really interesting article, and

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>there's been a lot of articles written about the search.

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a guy who I think is a former Air Force,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>uh commander. I can't remember what he did in the

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Air Force or the military, but he Um, he got

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>interested in the idea of chasing down these lost oaken arrows,

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and um, he searched for the Tybee bomb and he

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>claimed to have found it at one point. Um, But

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what happened with that. But this article

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>called the Saga of the Tybee Bomb. It was by

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Roger Pinckney and Gardening Gun Magazine, and oh, he really

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.479
<v Speaker 1>played up the southern thing that he in his writing.

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, but it was good. It was a

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>good article. But he interviewed a shrimp boat captain or no.

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He interviewed the nephew of a friend of a shrimp

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>boat captain who on his deathbed says that he found

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the bomb and said exactly where he trawled it too,

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and then cut it loose when he realized it was

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a bomb and never told anybody, or he did try

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to tell somebody and they ignored him. But um, he

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of left this legacy of potentially where the bomb

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>is and he said it was right off of the

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>dock of the Coastguard post on Tybee Island. Well, maybe

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>they never found it because it was after his long

0:30:53.640 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>list of shrimp recipes. It's possible, shimp Newberg. That was

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a great, great movie, was it? Was it not? I

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't think so. I don't think Forrest compass Aged? Well,

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>oh really, I'll have to go see it then again. Yeah,

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that was a sweet movie. Yeah all right, well, okay, okay,

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll take that up later. All right, Well, let's go

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>with another one, another very famous one. On March eleventh,

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>when the United States Air Force it was a B

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven I'm sorry, by going to Britain and it

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>had an issue with the locking pin on the bombaye doors,

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>there's a story supposedly that one of the co pilots

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>went to fix it movie style by hitting the fault

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>light with the butt of his gun. It's like right

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>out of a movie the Planes Captain just like And

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.959
<v Speaker 1>this may have been a big inspiration for Dr Strange

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Love because if you remember in that movie Slim Pickens,

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>there's an issue with the bombay doors and he basically

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>rides the bomb and very famously at the ending wearing

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>his cowboy hat right out of the bombay door. But

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the planes Captain uh climbed into that bombay to go

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>check things out and accidentally pulled the emergency release lever

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>or pushed a button that he shouldn't have pushed, uh,

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>depending on who you're asking. The bomb dropped. These doors

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>were closed. Remember, but this is a four ton bombs

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>who had just smashed right through those doors, fell fifteen

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand feet and blew up a farm in South Carolina. Yeah, like,

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>they bombed South Carolina with a nuclear bomb, and just

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>by the grace of the nature goddess, there was no

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>nuclear explosion, that's right, I mean, but a big boom, yes,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a huge boom, and it actually ruined the farm of

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the greg family. The Walter Gregg family, and he was

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he lived bitterly the rest of his life because he

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>finally sued and got like thirty six grand or something

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>like that, which even at the time him wasn't enough

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>for him to rebuild his house and his farm. And

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>no one died that it was just miraculous, but um,

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>several members of his family were injured and had to

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>go to the hospital. Um, but it was a big deal.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>It left a crater that's still there. It's in mars Bluff,

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, which is not too far from Florence, but

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it was something like five miles from Florence something like that.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And had this thing gone off, it would have um

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>wiped Florence right off of the map. Yeah, it would

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>have been a really big deal. And this was just

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>in a nuclear accident where somebody accidentally dropped a bomb

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on a farm in in South Carolina. Uh. This other

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>one in night and you were right, there were a

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>lot in but this one in November was pretty bad.

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It was a B forty seven crashed. It just seems

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like there were nuclear planes crashing all over the place

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>because there were so many nuclear flights taking off in landing.

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Every single day. Yeah, and they were moving the bombs

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.719
<v Speaker 1>like from one place to another constantly to Well, this

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>one crashed in Texas and it was carrying a nuclear

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>weapon and the Air Force kept this one classified for

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a long time. Um, but it had enriched uranium, so

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>they figure it was a sealed pit weapon that was

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>armed and the high explosive did detonate, but there was

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.760
<v Speaker 1>no nuclear explosion again um, hopefully because of these fail safes.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>But the kicker here is, uh, there was an environmental

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>clean up. This was the Air Force said, you know what,

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>we should go in there and clean this stuff up

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>because it's two thousand eleven, right, That's how long they

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>waited to clean the side up. Yeah, and apparently they

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 1>grew grain and fed cattle that grain on this land

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that was a nuclear disaster site because again, like the bomb,

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the nuclear bomb might not actually go off, but those

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>high explosives are blowing the nuclear material all over the

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>place and just totally contaminating the area. And they didn't

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>do anything about it for for what uh three years,

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 1>while they were feeding cattle grown on the land there.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. What else you got? So there were two

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>incidents that kind of brought um, the operation Chrome Dome

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>era to the to an end. Um. Remember we said

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the intercontinental ballistic missile development really put an end to it.

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But also the idea like this is just too risky,

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>and they knew it going into it. They were like,

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're gonna be flying around with armed nuclear weapons.

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It's far riskier, but it's a great strategy in case

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the the USSR strikes us, we'll be able to strike back. Um.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's worth the trade off. They knew going into it,

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>But after all of these accidents, they finally were like, Okay,

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not worth the trade off anymore. Um. And the

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>last two that really did it in were in January

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty eight, I believe, And those the last

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>two that really did Chrome Dome in both happened in January,

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>but two years apart, January sixty six and January. And

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons that really hastened the

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>end of Chrome Dome is because they happened on foreign

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>soil where we had air force bases. But we're guests

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of the country and the country that this happened in

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the countries that happened, and we're not very happy with

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>us for for allowing these nuclear accidents to take place. Yeah,

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>there was one in January. Uh it was a mid

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>air another mid air collision during refueling, which if you've

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.439
<v Speaker 1>ever seen those mid air refuelings, it's a tricky thing.

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 1>So you can see how that would happen. And that's,

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of course how strange Love opens over the opening credits

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>very famously with the refueling scene. Um shot into very

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>sexual nature right on purpose, of course, because it was

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Stanley Kubrick. But this one was near uh palamattas Spain.

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Nice is that right? Um? Yeah, I think that's good enough,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, Um? And that was, like I said, the

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>two planes crashed into each other, and four bombs were

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>on board. Four. One fell into the ocean, one fell

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>on land, and the other two fell on land and

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>detonated the high explosives. One went to market And you say, so, yeah,

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>one of them one went off I think, uh and

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>blew up, you said, out of the four, that's actually

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty lucky. No, no, no, one of the three that

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>fell on land to actually detonated the high explosives. Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.800
<v Speaker 1>And then one the one that went in the ocean,

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like they looked for that for weeks and they finally

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 1>managed to find it, which based on these broken arrow

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>um reports, is really rare that to actually find the bomb.

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>But they found this one in Spain, and then they

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.800
<v Speaker 1>actually cleaned up the site because this was in Spain,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just in Texas. So they went to the

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>trouble of cleaning up the site and they removed four

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred tons of contaminated soil from the crash site where

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 1>this radioactive material had been scattered by the explosion. Amazing.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was two years before Chrome Dome.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And the last one, the one that really brought about

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the end of Chrome Dome, was in Greenland, the incident

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>at tu Lea Air Force Base in Greenland in January

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty eight. This one happened and literally from

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 1>what I read, the next day, operation Chrome Dome was ended.

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>So this was a B fifty two crash crashed onto

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>sea ice and apparently they had to get rid of

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and thirty seven thousand cubic meters of snow, ice,

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>water and plane junk. Yeah, they removed it to the

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 1>United States because it was contaminated with radioactivity. So the

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>fact that happened in Greenland was was bad enough, but

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the Greenland was a territory of Denmark at the time.

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>In Denmark had a no nuke policy, so they were

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>really unhappy with this. But what's cool is Denmark forced

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the US to conduct an environmental estimate and study this

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff to make sure that there were no prolonged effects.

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And I found that there weren't. That's that's what the

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>study turned up. But yeah, but this is back in

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the sixties and they're doing this kind of thing, So

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>way to go, Denmark. I think we should talk about

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the one over North Carolina too, even though it jumps

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>back in time. Is that all right? Yeah, I'm fine

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>with jumping back in time. Janu A B fifty two

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>got a fuel leak, starts getting out of control, and

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>it's trying to get back to its base. The crew ejects.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>The plane breaks apart and crashes near Goldsboro, North Carolina,

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and there were two nuclear bombs on board here uh

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that's separated from the plane and fell to the ground.

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>One of them was fully armed hydrogen bomb, had nuclear material.

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Everything was there for a three point eight megaton explosion,

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and it crashed to the ground at high speed and

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>disintegrated without either the high explosive or the nuclear explosion,

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>going off into sort of a swamp. And what happened

0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to the other one, Uh, it actually fell gently to earth.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It's parachute deployed and it just went got stuck in

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a tree and they got it out. Hydrogen bomb stuck

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in a tree with tons of high explosives attached to it,

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>just hanging out. But they managed to get that one back.

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing when he reads through some of these, it's

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:22.879
<v Speaker 1>looks like and I know it's not in the case,

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>of course, our military does a great job, but it

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>looks at times like it's a three Stooges episode. Yeah, Like,

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>there was one plane that was pushed off an aircraft

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>carrier that had a nuclear bomb, just sort of pushed

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>off the side of the carrier off the coast of Japan,

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and it's still down there from what they from what

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we understand, here's something horrific, Chuck. The pilot was in

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the plane at the time. Really, they've never recovered the plane,

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the pilot, the bomb. It's just down there in like

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve thou feet of water, I believe. Yeah, imagine you

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>sink pretty fast. Oh god man, No, that's just terrible.

0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:01.720
<v Speaker 1>There was one where ah, this was missiles word ready

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and armed at an Air Force base in New Jersey

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>when a helium tank burst. I guess they were blown

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>up birthday party balloons, right, And this did not have

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a high explosive detonation, but the missile's fuel tank ruptured,

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and um, there was a big fire. A bunch of these.

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>There were fires, like big fires where they thought, you know,

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.720
<v Speaker 1>is it gonna happen or is it not? And luckily

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>it did not. No, and I'm sure that was a

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>consideration every single time, like is this thing going to

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>blow up into a nuclear explosion? I mean some of

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>these are are just we just would have been massive.

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>The one in um Goldsboro, North Carolina we were talking about,

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>had they gone off, it would have been two hundred

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and fifty three times larger than the Hiroshima blasts. Yeah,

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>they would have been in normous. I mean, look what

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that one fifteen kiloton bomb did to Hiroshima. Imagine two

0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty three times worse over North Carolina. I'm sure.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Mean it's just that would have been Georgia, would have

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>been South Carolina. It would have been massive and enormous

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and and and the fact that we didn't ever for

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>every single one of these, not once did a nuclear

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>explosion go off. It's really a testament to the scientists

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>who designed this thing to be as safe as as

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>humanly possible. And yeah, I mean there's some others like, um,

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the USS Scorpion nuclear sub went down. It had a

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>nuclear reactor aboard and a couple of nuclear torpedoes. Um, Like,

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>if you go through this list, there's a substantial number

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of nuclear bombs like out there in in the Sea

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Philippines, off the azores Um off of Tybee Island,

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>just hanging out waiting around, hopefully indefinitely or forever and

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>never you know, going off. But I remember that was

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>like one of the big concerns among the people living

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on Tybee is like, you know this this high explosives

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>are aging. You know, what's gonna happened when they reach

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>a certain age? Are they going to become are they

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>just gonna blow up? And is somebody's boat going to

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 1>be over the area at the time, Like what what

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>are we doing here? And the official thing is like

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just gone and it's safer to just leave

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>it wherever it is and try to move it at

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>this point. Yeah, The other I think funny thing ed

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>included here towards the end was uh. He says. There

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>are hundreds of other incidentss that would be classified as

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:27.240
<v Speaker 1>bent spears. Uh, Like you know, dropping fully armed nukes

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>onto the concrete, he said, more so many times I

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>lost count, or just like dropping off the wing of

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>an aircraft onto the ground when they were doing something.

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>It's um, isn't that a movie? Wasn't that in a movie?

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that happened in a movie. And it's like, oh,

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just so cringe e. It's like a top secret

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>or something. Maybe I can only think of the Zucker brothers.

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I went and watched a loaded weapon? Is that good?

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>It is? It's good for what it is for sure? Yes? Now,

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was that the Zucker? Yeah? I believe it was one

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Zuckers, if not both of them. But Emilia

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>west of As he's great. You're a big fan of him.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I love it. He's he's a good actor. Don't you

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 1>always champion the the sanitation Worker movie Men at Work Work.

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It's such a good movie. I still haven't seen that one.

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>You gotta see that one. It's got a real plot

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to it and everything. Yeah, and I mean it's Amilia

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>west of As and Charlie Sheen. When else are you

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>going to see those two together? Agreed? Thanksgiving? Maybe? Yeah,

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Maybe maybe Easter depending Maybe they're brothers. They're brothers,

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I know they are. That's why you'd see him together.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Are you telling me that or we're telling

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>me the listeners that. Oh I don't know. I'm just

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>talking to the ether. Okay, good, Um, Well, since we

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>started talking about Emilia west of Az and Charlie Sheen,

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it's time for a listener man and Charles, Uh,

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this episode MS out It so happens on the thirty one.

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe that's New Year's Eve. That's right. I was

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to get you to say it did so. A

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of things. Uh. We want to wish everyone a

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 1>happy New Year, first of course, um, and also I

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.240
<v Speaker 1>want to wish a happy birthday to my dear sweet

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>wife you me, Happy birthday MS. Thanks man. So happy

0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:26.280
<v Speaker 1>new Year everybody. We hope that it is a spectacular

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.479
<v Speaker 1>for you. It's the future now, that's right. So let's

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>all kind of shape up and act right for it.

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's do okay, So happy New Year everyone, Uh, and

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.479
<v Speaker 1>now it's time for a listener Matt. Yeah, we're gonna

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>share a dream here. We don't usually do this because,

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>let's face it, listening to someone's dreams is the worst.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>But this was kind of funny. Is from Cassie. She

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>wrote it at five thirty am, right off the bat

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>after having this dream. Uh. She said, the dream was

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a run I won some random drawing and the prize

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was to sit down on the recording of a podcast

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>while you were my area. So you guys come to

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>my cabin, which I don't have in real life. You

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>explain that you want to record the podcast in bed,

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh. So there we are, all three in bed

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 1>together wearing button up jammies that no one really wears

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in real life. And you guys are you have your

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>microphones and everything, and you're doing your stuff. You should

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 1>know thing, and I'm just sitting there watching and laughing

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and learning. Uh. When you decide that you're done and

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>it's time to go to sleep, So we go to

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>sleep in the same bed that you recorded from. Josh

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>is in the middle and Chuck and I are on

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>opposite ends. I was extremely self aware that I roll

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 1>around in my sleep and there's no way your guys

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be able to sleep. And sure enough, after

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a while, Joshua is up and says, I'm gonna go

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>watch TV. I can't sleep, So I was mortified that

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I kept him up. And then Chuck rolls over and

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>wraps his arm around me and spoons me. And I said,

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>what the heck are you doing? And Chuck says, oh, no, no, no,

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>this isn't a sexual thing. I'm happily married, as you know.

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But Emily knows that I have to hold on to

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>someone in order to fall asleep, so it's okay, so uh,

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and he says, normally it's Josh when we do these overnighters,

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>but you know, so I usually spoon you. Apparently, yeah,

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 1>well sure everybody knows that. So now there's no way

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm falling asleep. I told Chuck I was gonna go

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.399
<v Speaker 1>watch TV with Josh and Chuck says I can't sleep either,

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and ask for pepto bismol and winks at me like

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it's code for something. So Chuck starts laughing and says, no,

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about the pepto bismol. So then there we

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 1>are all three watching TV on the couch and you

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>guys are asking for snacks. I opened my fridge and

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I have tons of expired snacks and I'm embarrassed and

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>realized that the snacks are expired and I never even

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>fed you dinner. You guys are pretty embarrassing. You guys

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>awkwardly pretend to be okay not eating while we're sitting

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>on the couch, and your stomachs are literally rumbling extremely loud,

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and finally we all fall asleep on the couch. Uh.

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>The next day, you were doing a live show and

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 1>apparently are great friends with my armacist and my pharmacists

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>posted selfies with Josh lifting weights at the gym before

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys went to do your live show. Are they crazy?

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Where these dreams go? They go all over the place, man,

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. I don't know how they knew

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that your pre show routine was lifting weights? All right?

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You like to buff up before the show. Sure. Anyway,

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm still laughing now and I'm definitely gonna have a

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.760
<v Speaker 1>great day because of this dream. Thank you, I'm sorry,

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and you're welcome. That is from Cassie. Thanks a lot, Cassie,

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>much appreciated. Um. Yeah, we'll just move on from that one.

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.439
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Uh. If you want to get in touch

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.240
<v Speaker 1>with this, like Cassie did, you can go onto stuff

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.359
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0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.920
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0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:54.000
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0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.840
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