Speaker 1: San Francisco. We're coming to see you soon. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be there on Saturday, January Chuck. And since it's
Speaker 1: San Francisco, we're gonna be wearing nothing but appropriately placed
Speaker 1: clumps of rice roni. It is the San Francisco treat. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we're the San Francisco treat too whenever we're in town,
Speaker 1: So everybody should come see us. That's right. It's part
Speaker 1: of Sketch Fest as always. We love performing there. You
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Speaker 1: And if you're around Sunday night you can come see
Speaker 1: me do movie Crush Live and a very small fun
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Speaker 1: come see us, everybody. You won't regret it. We're pretty
Speaker 1: sure that's correct. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a
Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W.
Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, there's guest producer Roll over there. Uh. And
Speaker 1: that makes this Stuff you Should Know um, featuring Chucks,
Speaker 1: John Travolta, and me as Christians Later. Lowell is Frank Whaley.
Speaker 1: Was he in that? Yep? He had the great line,
Speaker 1: are you ready for it? I don't know what's scarier
Speaker 1: losing a nuclear bomb? He didn't. He didn't say this
Speaker 1: with this much reservation. He really delivered the line. Um.
Speaker 1: He also didn't comment on his own line while he
Speaker 1: was giving it, or that it happened so often there's
Speaker 1: a name for it. Yeah, that's a good line. It's
Speaker 1: a great line. It's it's a long, clumsy line. But
Speaker 1: he delivered it really well. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: that I ever saw broken arrow Oh I didn't either.
Speaker 1: I was just alive in the nineties, so I was
Speaker 1: cognizant of it. Yeah. I thought at first you were
Speaker 1: talking about Saturday Night Fever with Christians. Later sure, no, No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. Do you remember we talked about Sarah like
Speaker 1: fever must have in the Disco episode where it turns
Speaker 1: out that the article it was based on was just
Speaker 1: totally fabricated. Remember that's right. That's such a great soundtrack, man,
Speaker 1: maybe one of the all time best. Yep, But we're
Speaker 1: here to talk about broken arrows, and uh, I got
Speaker 1: this idea. This was one of my commissions, was because
Speaker 1: I had um, I had someone on movie Crush. Then
Speaker 1: we did Doctor Strange Love, the great great movie from
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick, which factors into this stuff some And he
Speaker 1: brought in a stack of papers and just said here
Speaker 1: for your desk, and it was a list of all
Speaker 1: the broken arrow incidents. And there were a lot more
Speaker 1: than thirty of them, So I don't know if what
Speaker 1: all was included. We'll get into some of the terminology
Speaker 1: of what kind of falls under the banner of a
Speaker 1: broken arrow. But but a broken well, we should just
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell everyone what a broken arrow is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should. As defined by the Department of Defense and
Speaker 1: a little bit from the Air Force, is an accident
Speaker 1: involving a nuclear weapon or warhead or nuclear component, or
Speaker 1: an unexpected event involving nuclear weapons that could result in
Speaker 1: um accidental or unauthorized launching, firing, what else, uh, detonation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: jettising them, sending them, uh damage to him, accidentally dropping them.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I've got to say, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's worse, accidentally dropping a nuclear bomb or that it
Speaker 1: happens so frequently. There's a name for it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Mr Whaley. Sure you can go to your trailer. Now,
Speaker 1: so that's a I mean, that's a broken arrow. And
Speaker 1: like there's a if you've seen that movie Broken Arrow,
Speaker 1: it's um about Christians later foiling John Travolta, um after
Speaker 1: he steals a nuclear bomb. That's actually technically not a
Speaker 1: broken arrow from what we know. That's called an empty quiver,
Speaker 1: which works with the broken arrow. But I thought it
Speaker 1: had to do with a stolen nuclear bomb, which led
Speaker 1: me to think, like, hey man, we've basically already done
Speaker 1: this one. We did how easy is it to steal
Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb? Remember that? Okay, this is really very
Speaker 1: much different. This is basically when a US military personnel
Speaker 1: screws up big time as far as a nuclear bomb
Speaker 1: is concerned, or there's some terrible accident with a nuclear bomb.
Speaker 1: But um, it's not something that's going to lead to war, right,
Speaker 1: It's not like an accidental launch of a nuclear weapon
Speaker 1: against the Soviet Union back in the Cold War. It's
Speaker 1: dropping a nuclear bomb on your toe. That's a broken arrow, basically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I've always thought broken arrow. I was wrong. I
Speaker 1: thought it kind of only meant that you lose a
Speaker 1: nuclear warhead somehow. Well, that's what Travolta's lies. He's the
Speaker 1: father of lies. That's what he teaches us. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been misled by Travolta. Yeah, have you seen him? He's
Speaker 1: he's gone bald. Now have you seen him? Good for
Speaker 1: a man? Has he? Yeah? He finally just just ripped
Speaker 1: off the old rug said this is me, and he's
Speaker 1: got a great being. He looks fantastic. Oh, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. That's good because he's been hiding
Speaker 1: that for decades. So, uh, we should talk about a
Speaker 1: few other points of terminology that might pop up. There's
Speaker 1: something called a pinnacle level incident, and that basically means
Speaker 1: that any kind of incident where it's so big that
Speaker 1: it really goes up all the way up the military
Speaker 1: chain to the very top. Yeah, it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: In other words, it's a big deal as travel towards. Uh.
Speaker 1: And there's a few more incident codes that I think
Speaker 1: are pretty interesting. Um, there's one called a nuke flash,
Speaker 1: and that means an accident or incident that could be
Speaker 1: the precursor to the trigger of nuclear war. That's a
Speaker 1: big one. That's the Yeah, that's the one where there's
Speaker 1: like somebody accidentally sets off an intercontinental ballistic missile toward Russia.
Speaker 1: That is like one that can lead to you nuclear war.
Speaker 1: And did you read that as new flash? I read
Speaker 1: it as nut flash. That's funny. Uh. What about front burner? Yeah,
Speaker 1: front Marina is triggered by any hostile It is pinnacle
Speaker 1: level and it is triggered by any hostile attack against
Speaker 1: US forces. Uh. And it's not necessarily a nuclear incident. No,
Speaker 1: but um, it can be. It can lead to a
Speaker 1: nuclear war. So it's kind of considered part of that
Speaker 1: whole family of nuclear jargon. Yeah. And also, don't think
Speaker 1: I said it's a hostile attack by someone that we're
Speaker 1: not already at war with. That is a big caveat,
Speaker 1: because I guess if you're if you're already at war's
Speaker 1: front burner, front burner, there's another front burner. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: that's a good point to make, dude. Um there's also
Speaker 1: empty Quiver, which is that's the name that should have
Speaker 1: been given to the travolt A Slater movie. Um, that's
Speaker 1: where the nuclear weapons stolen. Um. And I gotta say,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's scarier than a nuclear weapon can
Speaker 1: be stolen, or that it happens often enough that there's
Speaker 1: a name for it. Uh, do we go over bent
Speaker 1: spear yet? No, not to be confused with burning spear. No,
Speaker 1: a bent spear is an incident, nuclear incident that's a
Speaker 1: big deal, but it's not pinnacle level. And this is
Speaker 1: like if someone violated a regulation or a procedure or
Speaker 1: something when you're storing or transporting a nuclear weapon. Like
Speaker 1: it's like a three Stooges level type of nuclear accident
Speaker 1: um where nothing, nothing, really bad results from it. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's just somebody screwed up. And Ed gave this example.
Speaker 1: I had not heard of this one, but apparently in
Speaker 1: two thousand seven there was a burning spear. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that was genuine. There was a bent spear incident um
Speaker 1: where six armed nuclear warheads were loaded on a B
Speaker 1: fifty two and they walked away slapping the dust off
Speaker 1: of their hands and turned in for a good night's
Speaker 1: rest and did not leave a guard. These six armed
Speaker 1: nuclear warheads were left aboard a B fifty two that
Speaker 1: was unguarded overnight and the next morning they flew him
Speaker 1: across the country as scheduled. Okay, so nothing happened. No,
Speaker 1: it's like one of those ones where you find that
Speaker 1: you've bitten down to your cuticles because you're just so
Speaker 1: mortified at the idea of how bad things could have gone.
Speaker 1: But they just just we just narrowly averted crisis. All right,
Speaker 1: Are there any of these other terms that matter to you? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll talk about We'll go over some
Speaker 1: broken arrows later and some actual incidences. Um, but we
Speaker 1: should talk a little bit just about nuclear weapons. Uh.
Speaker 1: They are very much classified as to where they are,
Speaker 1: and the Upper Brass basically has an exception to that
Speaker 1: where if there is an incident and it presents a
Speaker 1: hazard to the public, like boy, we need to get
Speaker 1: people out of there, and we actually need to cop
Speaker 1: to this thing. Uh, then that is an exception where
Speaker 1: you can reveal that they're like surprised you're living near
Speaker 1: some nuclear warheads. He didn't realize it. But over there
Speaker 1: in that silo, it is it is not wheat I get.
Speaker 1: I get the impression. Also, where you know, seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty soldiers suddenly converge on a farm field where
Speaker 1: a plane went down, Um, it's it's usually kind of
Speaker 1: already old news to the locals that there's a nuclear
Speaker 1: bomb somewhere in play, especially if this happens to take
Speaker 1: place during the fifties or the sixties, which were the
Speaker 1: the worst decades in American history for near miss nuclear accidents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's interesting. I never really uh, I kind of
Speaker 1: just thought like, oh, it's because technology, and that's sort
Speaker 1: of true, and that uh, in the fifties and sixties,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to drop a nuclear bomb, that's why
Speaker 1: they say drop a nuclear bomb, because you were literally
Speaker 1: doing that. It was not attached to some missile on
Speaker 1: some base. It was in the belly of a plane
Speaker 1: and you flew over a site and opened doors and
Speaker 1: dropped a bomb. Yes, the right, that's how you delivered
Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb. And so because planes were so intimately
Speaker 1: connected with delivering a nuclear bomb. Early on in the
Speaker 1: Cold War, there was a guy who took over Strategic
Speaker 1: Air Command and I think ninety seven, and he was
Speaker 1: an old bomber pilot and he said, look, man, here's
Speaker 1: our new strategy. We're going to keep bombers loaded with
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs in the air at all times. There will
Speaker 1: always be multiple B fifty twos flying around with loaded
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons all the time, ready within striking distance of Russia.
Speaker 1: And so this thing was called Operation Chrome Dome, where
Speaker 1: pairs of B fifty twos would take off for twenty
Speaker 1: four hour missions. They would refuel in the air. There
Speaker 1: would be multiple pilots aboard so that they could trade
Speaker 1: off shifts because they would stay aloft for twenty four hours,
Speaker 1: and then before they came back to base the land
Speaker 1: at the end of twenty four hours, another pair would
Speaker 1: have taken off. And from what I saw, UM, at
Speaker 1: the minimum of Operation Chrome Dome, there were always at
Speaker 1: least four B fifty twos in the air flying these
Speaker 1: routes like near Russia. UM, usually there was twelve in
Speaker 1: the air. And then during the Cuban Missile Crisis, at
Speaker 1: the height of Operation Chrome Dome, there were seventy five
Speaker 1: B fifty twos in the air with nuclear weapons ready
Speaker 1: to strike at any given time. And because there were
Speaker 1: so many planes taking off and landing constantly with nuclear bombs,
Speaker 1: the chances of an accident with one of these nuclear
Speaker 1: bombs escalated tremendously. And that was these decades, the decades
Speaker 1: that Operation Chrome Dome lasted, UM when these nuclear weapon problems,
Speaker 1: what we call broken arrows, really kind of stepped up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's if you've seen Doctor Strangelove, that's
Speaker 1: what that uh, you know, there's kind of three parts
Speaker 1: to the story. In one part is up in the
Speaker 1: air in one of these bomber planes. And that's what
Speaker 1: Slim Pickens and James Earl Jones are doing up there.
Speaker 1: They are just manning a flight that is flying close
Speaker 1: to the Soviet border and uh, hoping that they just
Speaker 1: land and take off again the next day and fly
Speaker 1: and it's boring and they land again, and like I said,
Speaker 1: the ideas, you do this over and over and over
Speaker 1: and nothing ever happens. Um. But of course in Strangelove
Speaker 1: things go wrong. Um. But that yeah, that's what they
Speaker 1: were doing up there. Yep. So that's operation Chrome Dome
Speaker 1: and UM. Eventually the we developed innercontinental ballistic missiles, those
Speaker 1: ones that you talked about, like in in the ground
Speaker 1: in a base. They were capable of striking Moscow from Kansas.
Speaker 1: When we developed those in the sixties, we said, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't need this Chrome Dome strategy any longer. But
Speaker 1: also because there were so many accidents, and because the
Speaker 1: accidents were so costly bad and yet still just near
Speaker 1: misses from a nuclear explosion. UM, the idea of this
Speaker 1: chrome dome strategy was like, we we can't do this anymore.
Speaker 1: This it's just too too risky. Basically, should we take
Speaker 1: a break? I believe so, Charles, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of how a nuclear bomb works
Speaker 1: right after this. All right, Chuck. So if you're I
Speaker 1: think we should do a nuclear um bomb episode someday,
Speaker 1: where do we go over? This? Was it during the
Speaker 1: meltdowns episode? Yeah? It must have been like a fission reaction, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it does seem pretty pretty familiar, it doesn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know what a nuclear bomb is is is
Speaker 1: detonating and instigating or causing always starting stuff a fission reaction. Um.
Speaker 1: Well that was the early ones, right yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: how this works as a nuclear reaction is plutonium and
Speaker 1: uranium UM being compressed and smashing into other plutonium and
Speaker 1: uranium to get a nuclear fission reaction going right. Uh?
Speaker 1: And the early uh, I guess h bombs is what
Speaker 1: they call them initially, right, hydrogen bombs? Well, atomic bombs,
Speaker 1: I think initially yeah, atomic bombs who were very rudimentary,
Speaker 1: rudimentary Wow, Yeah, tried to dress them up by adding
Speaker 1: an extra syllable, but they were still rudimentary. They were rudimentary. Uh.
Speaker 1: And in fact, the UH, the very first bombs that
Speaker 1: were dropped on Hiroshima actually fired a gun type mechanism
Speaker 1: to set off this reaction. Right, It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they would shoot uranium at uranium and that that would
Speaker 1: set off the fission reaction, and like, you can produce
Speaker 1: a pretty substantial um explosion like they did over her
Speaker 1: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Right, And but compared to the other
Speaker 1: way that they later quickly figured out, I believe in
Speaker 1: the fifties they moved over I think those were the
Speaker 1: hydrogen bombs thermonuclear bombs where they used fusion, where it
Speaker 1: was an implosion that pressed the material, the plutonium or
Speaker 1: or the uranium together to create this nuclear reaction. That's
Speaker 1: when you got something in the yield of mega tons,
Speaker 1: millions and millions of tons worth of TNT explosive power,
Speaker 1: where the one in Hiroshima was like fifteen kilo tons,
Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand tons of t n T. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: thank god they hadn't figured that out at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because those earliest broken arrow ones were like, dude, if like,
Speaker 1: if this had been like a fusion bomb, who knows
Speaker 1: what would have happened, although I can't tell if if
Speaker 1: one was safer than the other. And Ed rightly points
Speaker 1: out the reason all these were near mrs was because
Speaker 1: along the way, scientists thought, we need to include some
Speaker 1: fail safes here so that if something does go wrong, um,
Speaker 1: a cascading string of multiple failures have to happen in
Speaker 1: a certain order for this thing to actually go off,
Speaker 1: or you have to make it so it's purposefully happens
Speaker 1: in this order to actually go off, and that if
Speaker 1: one thing doesn't happen in this this cascade, then the
Speaker 1: thing won't actually have a nuclear detonation. And the the
Speaker 1: fact that the scientists worked in these safety mechanisms, that's
Speaker 1: what kept like South Carolina and North Carolina from having
Speaker 1: entire town's level the nuclear explosions accidentally. That's because what
Speaker 1: happens now with this implosion that it is this nuclear
Speaker 1: material is packed and surrounded by high explosives, just regular
Speaker 1: conventional explosives, and this is you know, these things go
Speaker 1: off and they create a big boom in and of
Speaker 1: themselves that is very dangerous. But like you said, there
Speaker 1: are so many safety features built in and unless you
Speaker 1: have that um, that exact implosion pattern that you need,
Speaker 1: it might be scary. But uh, these high explosive going
Speaker 1: off don't necessarily mean that there will be that fusion reaction.
Speaker 1: And if it gets shot, like let's say somebody, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody bombs your bomb, that doesn't doesn't necessarily mean and
Speaker 1: probably means it won't happen. It will it will again
Speaker 1: be a big boom, and but it will break apart
Speaker 1: that nuclear material and just scatter it around. It's not
Speaker 1: going to compress it. And the way you need to
Speaker 1: create that fission reaction. No, And that's that's what a
Speaker 1: dirty bomb is. It's where you're you're not creating a
Speaker 1: nuclear explosion, but you're explo osian is spreading radioactive material
Speaker 1: that contaminates an area, which is bad enough, but it's
Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as an actual sustain nuclear explosion.
Speaker 1: And because the the nuclear bombs were made in such
Speaker 1: a way, like you said, that explosive pattern has to
Speaker 1: happen exactly just so you're probably not going to get
Speaker 1: that same pattern if that those explosives go off from
Speaker 1: hitting the ground after being dropped fifteen thousand feet or
Speaker 1: in a burning in a jet fuel fire from a
Speaker 1: crash jet. They will still explode, like you were saying,
Speaker 1: but it's not going to create that nuclear explosion. It
Speaker 1: still will make you bite your finger nois cuticle though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll it'll go up that pinnacle chain, right. Um. I'm
Speaker 1: also not sure about how bombs are now, but I
Speaker 1: know that for a while and maybe that's still still
Speaker 1: the case. They're just physically distanced, like those explosives are
Speaker 1: are not right next to the nuclear capsule, and that
Speaker 1: distance can actually help event those nuclear explosions. Yeah. Or
Speaker 1: there's like um an electra, an electronic circuit that has
Speaker 1: to be completed for the detonator to go off, and
Speaker 1: so if even if it's exposed to flames or impact,
Speaker 1: it's still not going to go off because it's detonated electronically.
Speaker 1: There's like more safety systems that they worked in. But
Speaker 1: initially one of the earliest ones they had with those
Speaker 1: imploding h bombs was that they just simply wouldn't put
Speaker 1: the core of the nuclear material that was to be
Speaker 1: imploded in the bomb. It really just be like a
Speaker 1: five thousand or you know, twenty thousand ton bomb of
Speaker 1: high high yield explosives, of high explosives, but the nuclear
Speaker 1: core wasn't plugged into the center, so it might be
Speaker 1: on the same plane, but it wasn't plugged in. And
Speaker 1: at least some cases in other cases in the the
Speaker 1: military used that the the core wasn't inserted into the
Speaker 1: bomb at the time excuse very frequently to basically say
Speaker 1: there was really no chance of this becoming a nuclear explosion.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of debate about just how true
Speaker 1: that is in some of these instances where some of
Speaker 1: these were fully armed nuclear bombs that just so happened.
Speaker 1: We lucked out that the the um the pattern of
Speaker 1: explosion with the high explosives didn't follow the right the
Speaker 1: right pattern to set off that that nuclear reaction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again, um, these protocols came about in the sixties
Speaker 1: and seventies, which is why most of these, I almost
Speaker 1: all these broken arrow incidences were in the fifties and sixties. Uh.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen nineties, I think in nineteen ninety there
Speaker 1: was a technical report on the safety of our arsenal
Speaker 1: conducted by independently by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and they
Speaker 1: vary and this is great for for you know, the
Speaker 1: general public. In dumb dums like us. They just gave
Speaker 1: it like a school rating, like A through F basically
Speaker 1: on all the all the weapons that we've used from
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty to seventy six and or no, I guess
Speaker 1: up until the nineties. But every weapon from fifty to
Speaker 1: seventy six received a D except for one, and that
Speaker 1: that one was the minute Man two and it got
Speaker 1: a C plus C plus C plus, which is pretty
Speaker 1: nice especially among these. But everything else got a D
Speaker 1: for twenty six years. Right, that just got it just
Speaker 1: goes to show you, like just how poorly these things
Speaker 1: were um safety mechanized, I guess. But even still, even
Speaker 1: despite you know that, like they still went to some
Speaker 1: extent to make them safer, but they just hadn't gone
Speaker 1: far enough. And yet despite that, we still didn't manage
Speaker 1: to accidentally blow ourselves up with the nuclear bomb. Despite
Speaker 1: all the broken arrows that we have gone through, which
Speaker 1: will now go through, should we take a break and
Speaker 1: then go through some of these are sure? Do some
Speaker 1: I can break that little word playing no, no, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break, all right, take a break, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with broken arrows. Okay, Chuck, So
Speaker 1: we um we As far as we know, the military
Speaker 1: will cop to thirty two broken arrows in the history
Speaker 1: of the Atomic Age as far as the United States goes, um,
Speaker 1: other countries have their own, and apparently the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: had at least as many, if not more, than we did,
Speaker 1: which if you've seen Chernobyl you know that they were
Speaker 1: probably like hundreds more. Yeah, yeah, and and possibly the
Speaker 1: same for us. It makes a really good point that,
Speaker 1: you know, the once the intercontinental ballistic missiles came along
Speaker 1: and we didn't need Operation Chrome Dome anymore, broken arrows
Speaker 1: all but vanished. But it's also possible that the military
Speaker 1: just decided, like, we're just not going to publicly announce
Speaker 1: these things any longer, which is entirely possible. Who knows.
Speaker 1: But as as far as it goes officially, there have
Speaker 1: been thirty two broken arrow pinnacle incidents that have happened
Speaker 1: in the nation's history, and some of them are just
Speaker 1: absolute doozies. Yeah, so we'll go over some of these. Um.
Speaker 1: I guess we can start with the first one, just
Speaker 1: for nostalgia's sake. This was February a B thirty six
Speaker 1: B Peacemaker bomber uh set flight from Alaska, and this
Speaker 1: is just a training mission where they want to simulate
Speaker 1: a nuclear strike against Russia. But they did have a
Speaker 1: big bomb on board. It was a five thousand pound
Speaker 1: bomb with just a conventional explosives that wasn't uh UM
Speaker 1: or at least a Department of Defense in the Air
Speaker 1: Force say, and we're gonna be caveating all these because
Speaker 1: you know we we can only say what they told us.
Speaker 1: But they said that there was no plutonium core on
Speaker 1: the plane. Um. But this is one of the planes
Speaker 1: that took off had engine trouble. The crew bailed out
Speaker 1: and set off the bomb in the air and then
Speaker 1: bailed out of the plane and the bomb luckily went
Speaker 1: off over the ocean, right. And this this kind of
Speaker 1: strikes at the core of a lot of these accidents.
Speaker 1: Like whenever you hear about um like or whenever you
Speaker 1: think about, why haven't we've been obliterated by a meteor
Speaker 1: or something, it seems like the world is just full
Speaker 1: of people, but there is way more empty land and
Speaker 1: water still then there are massive amounts of people. So
Speaker 1: the fact that we haven't been hit by the big asteroid,
Speaker 1: or that a lot of these bombs go off in
Speaker 1: places where there are no people. It is lucky, but
Speaker 1: the stats are also in our favor. Yeah, it's either
Speaker 1: that or we're live being in a computer simulation one
Speaker 1: of the two exactly, or in the matrix. So um
Speaker 1: that was the first one that was in nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: and the fact that the government says there was there
Speaker 1: was only like a um A uh what what did
Speaker 1: you call it? Uh? Like what was the kind of
Speaker 1: UM flight it was on? Just like a training mission? Training? Yes,
Speaker 1: so there was a training plug inside of the thing.
Speaker 1: It was it's made of lead rather than plutonium. And
Speaker 1: that actually probably holds up to scrutiny because in the
Speaker 1: early fifties they that's the kind that they were using.
Speaker 1: There were small enough that you could send one of
Speaker 1: the pilots or one of the co pilots or somebody
Speaker 1: to the back to actually arm the nuclear weapon with
Speaker 1: the plug, and if they were on a training mission,
Speaker 1: there really wouldn't be much used for that. So that
Speaker 1: probably was a non nuclear bomb that went off. But
Speaker 1: by the the late fifties, the the government had moved
Speaker 1: on to much bigger bombs and because they decided that
Speaker 1: they needed to be hair trigger ready. They were armed,
Speaker 1: despite what the government says. They're These type of bombs
Speaker 1: that they moved to are called sealed pit weapons, where
Speaker 1: that core was inserted and then the bomb was sealed
Speaker 1: and then it was loaded onto the plane. So the
Speaker 1: plane was flying around with a fully active, ready to
Speaker 1: go nuclear bomb. So anything starting in the late fifties
Speaker 1: onward is suspicious. If the government saying that it wasn't
Speaker 1: an active nuclear bomb, that's right, very true. Here's another one,
Speaker 1: and we're just kind of picking through these. I think
Speaker 1: gave us like seventeen or eighteen to choose from, but
Speaker 1: I thought like all thirty two were on here. No, No,
Speaker 1: it just seemed that way. Uh, this one in March,
Speaker 1: and this represents sort of one that's happened a few times,
Speaker 1: which is where a plane and the bomb in the
Speaker 1: plane will just vanish, never to be heard from again.
Speaker 1: And that happened on March tenth, the B forty seven
Speaker 1: strato Jet. It was most to refuel in mid air
Speaker 1: over the Mediterranean Sea, but the plane never showed up
Speaker 1: for that dinner date. And uh, they never found the plane,
Speaker 1: and it had two nuclear capsules and they were never
Speaker 1: found either. And Um, that was I think nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 1: You said, if you fast forward a little bit to
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, that was a really really bad year
Speaker 1: for broken arrow incidents. I mean, if you're a fan
Speaker 1: of broken arrow incidents, it's a great year. But for
Speaker 1: the rest of us, it was a bad year. Um.
Speaker 1: From January thirty one to March eleven, there were three
Speaker 1: So in less than six weeks there were three broken
Speaker 1: arrow incidents, two of which were among the most famous
Speaker 1: broken arrow incidents ever to take place. The first one
Speaker 1: produced what's known as the Tybee bomb. You've heard of
Speaker 1: the Tybee bomb. Okay, So, Um, there was a B
Speaker 1: forty seven that was on a training flight and stance,
Speaker 1: this is nineteen fifty eight. It's entirely possible that it
Speaker 1: was a fully active nuclear weapon that it was flying
Speaker 1: around with the government says no. Other people say absolutely was.
Speaker 1: But Um, the on the training mission, the B fifty
Speaker 1: two or I'm sorry, the B forty seven was, um,
Speaker 1: became in contact with a fighter jet it was also
Speaker 1: training and pretending to attack it, and they accidentally knocked
Speaker 1: itself out and knocked the B forty seven out the
Speaker 1: the B forty seven crew ejected the jettison the bomb,
Speaker 1: and four weeks afterward they looked around Tybee Island to
Speaker 1: find this bomb and they still to this day haven't
Speaker 1: found it Tybee Island, which is off the coast of Savannah, Georgia. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he said that the Fight six was pretending to attack.
Speaker 1: It was a just like a training thing. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it got too close and I think took its
Speaker 1: own wing off and crippled the B forty seven. I
Speaker 1: think peo peo peo the whole time. Yeah, basically, And
Speaker 1: it was a it was a Mark thirty six bomb too.
Speaker 1: This is really important. It was a four ton hydrogen
Speaker 1: bomb that may have been fully active. And it's just
Speaker 1: somewhere off, like right off of the coast of Tybee Island, somewhere.
Speaker 1: If you've ever been to Tybee Island, this explains quite
Speaker 1: a bit about Tybee Island that there's a four ton
Speaker 1: hydrogen bomb just sitting right off the coat. Now, what
Speaker 1: does that mean? Are you knocking Tybee? No? I think
Speaker 1: j yeah. Jerry loves Tybee. It's a great place. It's
Speaker 1: its own place, and I love it for that. But
Speaker 1: also super duper weird. Well, what I can't figure out
Speaker 1: is why they can't find this thing. That just seems
Speaker 1: it just seems impossible to me that you can't find
Speaker 1: this given that Tybee is not the hugest place. Uh No,
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's just one of those needle
Speaker 1: in the haystack things. By now, it's probably been covered
Speaker 1: with so much like silt and sediment, they may never
Speaker 1: find it. But I read this really interesting article, and
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of articles written about the search.
Speaker 1: There's a guy who I think is a former Air Force,
Speaker 1: uh commander. I can't remember what he did in the
Speaker 1: Air Force or the military, but he Um, he got
Speaker 1: interested in the idea of chasing down these lost oaken arrows,
Speaker 1: and um, he searched for the Tybee bomb and he
Speaker 1: claimed to have found it at one point. Um, But
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened with that. But this article
Speaker 1: called the Saga of the Tybee Bomb. It was by
Speaker 1: Roger Pinckney and Gardening Gun Magazine, and oh, he really
Speaker 1: played up the southern thing that he in his writing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but it was good. It was a
Speaker 1: good article. But he interviewed a shrimp boat captain or no.
Speaker 1: He interviewed the nephew of a friend of a shrimp
Speaker 1: boat captain who on his deathbed says that he found
Speaker 1: the bomb and said exactly where he trawled it too,
Speaker 1: and then cut it loose when he realized it was
Speaker 1: a bomb and never told anybody, or he did try
Speaker 1: to tell somebody and they ignored him. But um, he
Speaker 1: kind of left this legacy of potentially where the bomb
Speaker 1: is and he said it was right off of the
Speaker 1: dock of the Coastguard post on Tybee Island. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: they never found it because it was after his long
Speaker 1: list of shrimp recipes. It's possible, shimp Newberg. That was
Speaker 1: a great, great movie, was it? Was it not? I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think so. I don't think Forrest compass Aged? Well,
Speaker 1: oh really, I'll have to go see it then again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a sweet movie. Yeah all right, well, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take that up later. All right, Well, let's go
Speaker 1: with another one, another very famous one. On March eleventh,
Speaker 1: when the United States Air Force it was a B
Speaker 1: fifty seven I'm sorry, by going to Britain and it
Speaker 1: had an issue with the locking pin on the bombaye doors,
Speaker 1: there's a story supposedly that one of the co pilots
Speaker 1: went to fix it movie style by hitting the fault
Speaker 1: light with the butt of his gun. It's like right
Speaker 1: out of a movie the Planes Captain just like And
Speaker 1: this may have been a big inspiration for Dr Strange
Speaker 1: Love because if you remember in that movie Slim Pickens,
Speaker 1: there's an issue with the bombay doors and he basically
Speaker 1: rides the bomb and very famously at the ending wearing
Speaker 1: his cowboy hat right out of the bombay door. But
Speaker 1: the planes Captain uh climbed into that bombay to go
Speaker 1: check things out and accidentally pulled the emergency release lever
Speaker 1: or pushed a button that he shouldn't have pushed, uh,
Speaker 1: depending on who you're asking. The bomb dropped. These doors
Speaker 1: were closed. Remember, but this is a four ton bombs
Speaker 1: who had just smashed right through those doors, fell fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand feet and blew up a farm in South Carolina. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: they bombed South Carolina with a nuclear bomb, and just
Speaker 1: by the grace of the nature goddess, there was no
Speaker 1: nuclear explosion, that's right, I mean, but a big boom, yes,
Speaker 1: a huge boom, and it actually ruined the farm of
Speaker 1: the greg family. The Walter Gregg family, and he was
Speaker 1: he lived bitterly the rest of his life because he
Speaker 1: finally sued and got like thirty six grand or something
Speaker 1: like that, which even at the time him wasn't enough
Speaker 1: for him to rebuild his house and his farm. And
Speaker 1: no one died that it was just miraculous, but um,
Speaker 1: several members of his family were injured and had to
Speaker 1: go to the hospital. Um, but it was a big deal.
Speaker 1: It left a crater that's still there. It's in mars Bluff,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, which is not too far from Florence, but
Speaker 1: it was something like five miles from Florence something like that.
Speaker 1: And had this thing gone off, it would have um
Speaker 1: wiped Florence right off of the map. Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: have been a really big deal. And this was just
Speaker 1: in a nuclear accident where somebody accidentally dropped a bomb
Speaker 1: on a farm in in South Carolina. Uh. This other
Speaker 1: one in night and you were right, there were a
Speaker 1: lot in but this one in November was pretty bad.
Speaker 1: It was a B forty seven crashed. It just seems
Speaker 1: like there were nuclear planes crashing all over the place
Speaker 1: because there were so many nuclear flights taking off in landing.
Speaker 1: Every single day. Yeah, and they were moving the bombs
Speaker 1: like from one place to another constantly to Well, this
Speaker 1: one crashed in Texas and it was carrying a nuclear
Speaker 1: weapon and the Air Force kept this one classified for
Speaker 1: a long time. Um, but it had enriched uranium, so
Speaker 1: they figure it was a sealed pit weapon that was
Speaker 1: armed and the high explosive did detonate, but there was
Speaker 1: no nuclear explosion again um, hopefully because of these fail safes.
Speaker 1: But the kicker here is, uh, there was an environmental
Speaker 1: clean up. This was the Air Force said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we should go in there and clean this stuff up
Speaker 1: because it's two thousand eleven, right, That's how long they
Speaker 1: waited to clean the side up. Yeah, and apparently they
Speaker 1: grew grain and fed cattle that grain on this land
Speaker 1: that was a nuclear disaster site because again, like the bomb,
Speaker 1: the nuclear bomb might not actually go off, but those
Speaker 1: high explosives are blowing the nuclear material all over the
Speaker 1: place and just totally contaminating the area. And they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything about it for for what uh three years,
Speaker 1: while they were feeding cattle grown on the land there.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. What else you got? So there were two
Speaker 1: incidents that kind of brought um, the operation Chrome Dome
Speaker 1: era to the to an end. Um. Remember we said
Speaker 1: the intercontinental ballistic missile development really put an end to it.
Speaker 1: But also the idea like this is just too risky,
Speaker 1: and they knew it going into it. They were like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be flying around with armed nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: It's far riskier, but it's a great strategy in case
Speaker 1: the the USSR strikes us, we'll be able to strike back. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's worth the trade off. They knew going into it,
Speaker 1: But after all of these accidents, they finally were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not worth the trade off anymore. Um. And the
Speaker 1: last two that really did it in were in January
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight, I believe, And those the last
Speaker 1: two that really did Chrome Dome in both happened in January,
Speaker 1: but two years apart, January sixty six and January. And
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons that really hastened the
Speaker 1: end of Chrome Dome is because they happened on foreign
Speaker 1: soil where we had air force bases. But we're guests
Speaker 1: of the country and the country that this happened in
Speaker 1: the countries that happened, and we're not very happy with
Speaker 1: us for for allowing these nuclear accidents to take place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was one in January. Uh it was a mid
Speaker 1: air another mid air collision during refueling, which if you've
Speaker 1: ever seen those mid air refuelings, it's a tricky thing.
Speaker 1: So you can see how that would happen. And that's,
Speaker 1: of course how strange Love opens over the opening credits
Speaker 1: very famously with the refueling scene. Um shot into very
Speaker 1: sexual nature right on purpose, of course, because it was
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick. But this one was near uh palamattas Spain.
Speaker 1: Nice is that right? Um? Yeah, I think that's good enough,
Speaker 1: all right, Um? And that was, like I said, the
Speaker 1: two planes crashed into each other, and four bombs were
Speaker 1: on board. Four. One fell into the ocean, one fell
Speaker 1: on land, and the other two fell on land and
Speaker 1: detonated the high explosives. One went to market And you say, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of them one went off I think, uh and
Speaker 1: blew up, you said, out of the four, that's actually
Speaker 1: pretty lucky. No, no, no, one of the three that
Speaker 1: fell on land to actually detonated the high explosives. Okay, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1: And then one the one that went in the ocean,
Speaker 1: like they looked for that for weeks and they finally
Speaker 1: managed to find it, which based on these broken arrow
Speaker 1: um reports, is really rare that to actually find the bomb.
Speaker 1: But they found this one in Spain, and then they
Speaker 1: actually cleaned up the site because this was in Spain,
Speaker 1: it wasn't just in Texas. So they went to the
Speaker 1: trouble of cleaning up the site and they removed four
Speaker 1: hundred tons of contaminated soil from the crash site where
Speaker 1: this radioactive material had been scattered by the explosion. Amazing.
Speaker 1: So that was that was two years before Chrome Dome.
Speaker 1: And the last one, the one that really brought about
Speaker 1: the end of Chrome Dome, was in Greenland, the incident
Speaker 1: at tu Lea Air Force Base in Greenland in January
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight. This one happened and literally from
Speaker 1: what I read, the next day, operation Chrome Dome was ended.
Speaker 1: So this was a B fifty two crash crashed onto
Speaker 1: sea ice and apparently they had to get rid of
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven thousand cubic meters of snow, ice,
Speaker 1: water and plane junk. Yeah, they removed it to the
Speaker 1: United States because it was contaminated with radioactivity. So the
Speaker 1: fact that happened in Greenland was was bad enough, but
Speaker 1: the Greenland was a territory of Denmark at the time.
Speaker 1: In Denmark had a no nuke policy, so they were
Speaker 1: really unhappy with this. But what's cool is Denmark forced
Speaker 1: the US to conduct an environmental estimate and study this
Speaker 1: stuff to make sure that there were no prolonged effects.
Speaker 1: And I found that there weren't. That's that's what the
Speaker 1: study turned up. But yeah, but this is back in
Speaker 1: the sixties and they're doing this kind of thing, So
Speaker 1: way to go, Denmark. I think we should talk about
Speaker 1: the one over North Carolina too, even though it jumps
Speaker 1: back in time. Is that all right? Yeah, I'm fine
Speaker 1: with jumping back in time. Janu A B fifty two
Speaker 1: got a fuel leak, starts getting out of control, and
Speaker 1: it's trying to get back to its base. The crew ejects.
Speaker 1: The plane breaks apart and crashes near Goldsboro, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: and there were two nuclear bombs on board here uh
Speaker 1: that's separated from the plane and fell to the ground.
Speaker 1: One of them was fully armed hydrogen bomb, had nuclear material.
Speaker 1: Everything was there for a three point eight megaton explosion,
Speaker 1: and it crashed to the ground at high speed and
Speaker 1: disintegrated without either the high explosive or the nuclear explosion,
Speaker 1: going off into sort of a swamp. And what happened
Speaker 1: to the other one, Uh, it actually fell gently to earth.
Speaker 1: It's parachute deployed and it just went got stuck in
Speaker 1: a tree and they got it out. Hydrogen bomb stuck
Speaker 1: in a tree with tons of high explosives attached to it,
Speaker 1: just hanging out. But they managed to get that one back.
Speaker 1: It's amazing when he reads through some of these, it's
Speaker 1: looks like and I know it's not in the case,
Speaker 1: of course, our military does a great job, but it
Speaker 1: looks at times like it's a three Stooges episode. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: there was one plane that was pushed off an aircraft
Speaker 1: carrier that had a nuclear bomb, just sort of pushed
Speaker 1: off the side of the carrier off the coast of Japan,
Speaker 1: and it's still down there from what they from what
Speaker 1: we understand, here's something horrific, Chuck. The pilot was in
Speaker 1: the plane at the time. Really, they've never recovered the plane,
Speaker 1: the pilot, the bomb. It's just down there in like
Speaker 1: twelve thou feet of water, I believe. Yeah, imagine you
Speaker 1: sink pretty fast. Oh god man, No, that's just terrible.
Speaker 1: There was one where ah, this was missiles word ready
Speaker 1: and armed at an Air Force base in New Jersey
Speaker 1: when a helium tank burst. I guess they were blown
Speaker 1: up birthday party balloons, right, And this did not have
Speaker 1: a high explosive detonation, but the missile's fuel tank ruptured,
Speaker 1: and um, there was a big fire. A bunch of these.
Speaker 1: There were fires, like big fires where they thought, you know,
Speaker 1: is it gonna happen or is it not? And luckily
Speaker 1: it did not. No, and I'm sure that was a
Speaker 1: consideration every single time, like is this thing going to
Speaker 1: blow up into a nuclear explosion? I mean some of
Speaker 1: these are are just we just would have been massive.
Speaker 1: The one in um Goldsboro, North Carolina we were talking about,
Speaker 1: had they gone off, it would have been two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty three times larger than the Hiroshima blasts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would have been in normous. I mean, look what
Speaker 1: that one fifteen kiloton bomb did to Hiroshima. Imagine two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three times worse over North Carolina. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Mean it's just that would have been Georgia, would have
Speaker 1: been South Carolina. It would have been massive and enormous
Speaker 1: and and and the fact that we didn't ever for
Speaker 1: every single one of these, not once did a nuclear
Speaker 1: explosion go off. It's really a testament to the scientists
Speaker 1: who designed this thing to be as safe as as
Speaker 1: humanly possible. And yeah, I mean there's some others like, um,
Speaker 1: the USS Scorpion nuclear sub went down. It had a
Speaker 1: nuclear reactor aboard and a couple of nuclear torpedoes. Um, Like,
Speaker 1: if you go through this list, there's a substantial number
Speaker 1: of nuclear bombs like out there in in the Sea
Speaker 1: of the Philippines, off the azores Um off of Tybee Island,
Speaker 1: just hanging out waiting around, hopefully indefinitely or forever and
Speaker 1: never you know, going off. But I remember that was
Speaker 1: like one of the big concerns among the people living
Speaker 1: on Tybee is like, you know this this high explosives
Speaker 1: are aging. You know, what's gonna happened when they reach
Speaker 1: a certain age? Are they going to become are they
Speaker 1: just gonna blow up? And is somebody's boat going to
Speaker 1: be over the area at the time, Like what what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? And the official thing is like
Speaker 1: it's it's just gone and it's safer to just leave
Speaker 1: it wherever it is and try to move it at
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, The other I think funny thing ed
Speaker 1: included here towards the end was uh. He says. There
Speaker 1: are hundreds of other incidentss that would be classified as
Speaker 1: bent spears. Uh, Like you know, dropping fully armed nukes
Speaker 1: onto the concrete, he said, more so many times I
Speaker 1: lost count, or just like dropping off the wing of
Speaker 1: an aircraft onto the ground when they were doing something.
Speaker 1: It's um, isn't that a movie? Wasn't that in a movie?
Speaker 1: I don't know that happened in a movie. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just so cringe e. It's like a top secret
Speaker 1: or something. Maybe I can only think of the Zucker brothers.
Speaker 1: I went and watched a loaded weapon? Is that good?
Speaker 1: It is? It's good for what it is for sure? Yes? Now,
Speaker 1: was that the Zucker? Yeah? I believe it was one
Speaker 1: of the Zuckers, if not both of them. But Emilia
Speaker 1: west of As he's great. You're a big fan of him.
Speaker 1: I love it. He's he's a good actor. Don't you
Speaker 1: always champion the the sanitation Worker movie Men at Work Work.
Speaker 1: It's such a good movie. I still haven't seen that one.
Speaker 1: You gotta see that one. It's got a real plot
Speaker 1: to it and everything. Yeah, and I mean it's Amilia
Speaker 1: west of As and Charlie Sheen. When else are you
Speaker 1: going to see those two together? Agreed? Thanksgiving? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Maybe maybe Easter depending Maybe they're brothers. They're brothers,
Speaker 1: I know they are. That's why you'd see him together.
Speaker 1: That's right. Are you telling me that or we're telling
Speaker 1: me the listeners that. Oh I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking to the ether. Okay, good, Um, Well, since we
Speaker 1: started talking about Emilia west of Az and Charlie Sheen,
Speaker 1: I think it's time for a listener man and Charles, Uh,
Speaker 1: this episode MS out It so happens on the thirty one.
Speaker 1: I believe that's New Year's Eve. That's right. I was
Speaker 1: trying to get you to say it did so. A
Speaker 1: couple of things. Uh. We want to wish everyone a
Speaker 1: happy New Year, first of course, um, and also I
Speaker 1: want to wish a happy birthday to my dear sweet
Speaker 1: wife you me, Happy birthday MS. Thanks man. So happy
Speaker 1: new Year everybody. We hope that it is a spectacular
Speaker 1: for you. It's the future now, that's right. So let's
Speaker 1: all kind of shape up and act right for it.
Speaker 1: Let's do okay, So happy New Year everyone, Uh, and
Speaker 1: now it's time for a listener Matt. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: share a dream here. We don't usually do this because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, listening to someone's dreams is the worst.
Speaker 1: But this was kind of funny. Is from Cassie. She
Speaker 1: wrote it at five thirty am, right off the bat
Speaker 1: after having this dream. Uh. She said, the dream was
Speaker 1: a run I won some random drawing and the prize
Speaker 1: was to sit down on the recording of a podcast
Speaker 1: while you were my area. So you guys come to
Speaker 1: my cabin, which I don't have in real life. You
Speaker 1: explain that you want to record the podcast in bed,
Speaker 1: and uh. So there we are, all three in bed
Speaker 1: together wearing button up jammies that no one really wears
Speaker 1: in real life. And you guys are you have your
Speaker 1: microphones and everything, and you're doing your stuff. You should
Speaker 1: know thing, and I'm just sitting there watching and laughing
Speaker 1: and learning. Uh. When you decide that you're done and
Speaker 1: it's time to go to sleep, So we go to
Speaker 1: sleep in the same bed that you recorded from. Josh
Speaker 1: is in the middle and Chuck and I are on
Speaker 1: opposite ends. I was extremely self aware that I roll
Speaker 1: around in my sleep and there's no way your guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to sleep. And sure enough, after
Speaker 1: a while, Joshua is up and says, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: watch TV. I can't sleep, So I was mortified that
Speaker 1: I kept him up. And then Chuck rolls over and
Speaker 1: wraps his arm around me and spoons me. And I said,
Speaker 1: what the heck are you doing? And Chuck says, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't a sexual thing. I'm happily married, as you know.
Speaker 1: But Emily knows that I have to hold on to
Speaker 1: someone in order to fall asleep, so it's okay, so uh,
Speaker 1: and he says, normally it's Josh when we do these overnighters,
Speaker 1: but you know, so I usually spoon you. Apparently, yeah,
Speaker 1: well sure everybody knows that. So now there's no way
Speaker 1: I'm falling asleep. I told Chuck I was gonna go
Speaker 1: watch TV with Josh and Chuck says I can't sleep either,
Speaker 1: and ask for pepto bismol and winks at me like
Speaker 1: it's code for something. So Chuck starts laughing and says, no,
Speaker 1: don't worry about the pepto bismol. So then there we
Speaker 1: are all three watching TV on the couch and you
Speaker 1: guys are asking for snacks. I opened my fridge and
Speaker 1: I have tons of expired snacks and I'm embarrassed and
Speaker 1: realized that the snacks are expired and I never even
Speaker 1: fed you dinner. You guys are pretty embarrassing. You guys
Speaker 1: awkwardly pretend to be okay not eating while we're sitting
Speaker 1: on the couch, and your stomachs are literally rumbling extremely loud,
Speaker 1: and finally we all fall asleep on the couch. Uh.
Speaker 1: The next day, you were doing a live show and
Speaker 1: apparently are great friends with my armacist and my pharmacists
Speaker 1: posted selfies with Josh lifting weights at the gym before
Speaker 1: you guys went to do your live show. Are they crazy?
Speaker 1: Where these dreams go? They go all over the place, man,
Speaker 1: all over the place. I don't know how they knew
Speaker 1: that your pre show routine was lifting weights? All right?
Speaker 1: You like to buff up before the show. Sure. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm still laughing now and I'm definitely gonna have a
Speaker 1: great day because of this dream. Thank you, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and you're welcome. That is from Cassie. Thanks a lot, Cassie,
Speaker 1: much appreciated. Um. Yeah, we'll just move on from that one.
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