1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco. We're coming to see you soon. Yeah, we're 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: gonna be there on Saturday, January Chuck. And since it's 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: San Francisco, we're gonna be wearing nothing but appropriately placed 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: clumps of rice roni. It is the San Francisco treat. Yes, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and we're the San Francisco treat too whenever we're in town, 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: So everybody should come see us. That's right. It's part 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: of Sketch Fest as always. We love performing there. You 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: can go to s Y s K live dot com 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: for details or s F sketch Fest dot com. Uh. 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: And if you're around Sunday night you can come see 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: me do movie Crush Live and a very small fun 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: venue where you can shake my hand. Very nice, So 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: come see us, everybody. You won't regret it. We're pretty 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: sure that's correct. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, there's guest producer Roll over there. Uh. And 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: that makes this Stuff you Should Know um, featuring Chucks, 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: John Travolta, and me as Christians Later. Lowell is Frank Whaley. 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Was he in that? Yep? He had the great line, 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: are you ready for it? I don't know what's scarier 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: losing a nuclear bomb? He didn't. He didn't say this 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: with this much reservation. He really delivered the line. Um. 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: He also didn't comment on his own line while he 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: was giving it, or that it happened so often there's 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: a name for it. Yeah, that's a good line. It's 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: a great line. It's it's a long, clumsy line. But 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: he delivered it really well. You know, I don't know 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: that I ever saw broken arrow Oh I didn't either. 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: I was just alive in the nineties, so I was 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: cognizant of it. Yeah. I thought at first you were 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: talking about Saturday Night Fever with Christians. Later sure, no, No, 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't. Do you remember we talked about Sarah like 34 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: fever must have in the Disco episode where it turns 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: out that the article it was based on was just 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: totally fabricated. Remember that's right. That's such a great soundtrack, man, 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: maybe one of the all time best. Yep, But we're 38 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: here to talk about broken arrows, and uh, I got 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: this idea. This was one of my commissions, was because 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: I had um, I had someone on movie Crush. Then 41 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: we did Doctor Strange Love, the great great movie from 42 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick, which factors into this stuff some And he 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: brought in a stack of papers and just said here 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: for your desk, and it was a list of all 45 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: the broken arrow incidents. And there were a lot more 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: than thirty of them, So I don't know if what 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: all was included. We'll get into some of the terminology 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: of what kind of falls under the banner of a 49 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: broken arrow. But but a broken well, we should just 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: go ahead and tell everyone what a broken arrow is, Yeah, 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: we should. As defined by the Department of Defense and 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: a little bit from the Air Force, is an accident 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: involving a nuclear weapon or warhead or nuclear component, or 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: an unexpected event involving nuclear weapons that could result in 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: um accidental or unauthorized launching, firing, what else, uh, detonation, Yeah, 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: jettising them, sending them, uh damage to him, accidentally dropping them. 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: And I mean, I've got to say, I don't know 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: what's worse, accidentally dropping a nuclear bomb or that it 59 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: happens so frequently. There's a name for it. Thank you, 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Mr Whaley. Sure you can go to your trailer. Now, 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: so that's a I mean, that's a broken arrow. And 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: like there's a if you've seen that movie Broken Arrow, 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: it's um about Christians later foiling John Travolta, um after 64 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: he steals a nuclear bomb. That's actually technically not a 65 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: broken arrow from what we know. That's called an empty quiver, 66 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: which works with the broken arrow. But I thought it 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: had to do with a stolen nuclear bomb, which led 68 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: me to think, like, hey man, we've basically already done 69 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: this one. We did how easy is it to steal 70 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb? Remember that? Okay, this is really very 71 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: much different. This is basically when a US military personnel 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: screws up big time as far as a nuclear bomb 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: is concerned, or there's some terrible accident with a nuclear bomb. 74 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: But um, it's not something that's going to lead to war, right, 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: It's not like an accidental launch of a nuclear weapon 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: against the Soviet Union back in the Cold War. It's 77 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: dropping a nuclear bomb on your toe. That's a broken arrow, basically. Yeah, 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: And I've always thought broken arrow. I was wrong. I 79 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: thought it kind of only meant that you lose a 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: nuclear warhead somehow. Well, that's what Travolta's lies. He's the 81 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: father of lies. That's what he teaches us. Yeah, we've 82 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: been misled by Travolta. Yeah, have you seen him? He's 83 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: he's gone bald. Now have you seen him? Good for 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: a man? Has he? Yeah? He finally just just ripped 85 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: off the old rug said this is me, and he's 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: got a great being. He looks fantastic. Oh, I'm sure 87 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. That's good because he's been hiding 88 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: that for decades. So, uh, we should talk about a 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: few other points of terminology that might pop up. There's 90 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: something called a pinnacle level incident, and that basically means 91 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: that any kind of incident where it's so big that 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: it really goes up all the way up the military 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: chain to the very top. Yeah, it's a big deal. 94 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: In other words, it's a big deal as travel towards. Uh. 95 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: And there's a few more incident codes that I think 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: are pretty interesting. Um, there's one called a nuke flash, 97 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: and that means an accident or incident that could be 98 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: the precursor to the trigger of nuclear war. That's a 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: big one. That's the Yeah, that's the one where there's 100 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: like somebody accidentally sets off an intercontinental ballistic missile toward Russia. 101 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: That is like one that can lead to you nuclear war. 102 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: And did you read that as new flash? I read 103 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: it as nut flash. That's funny. Uh. What about front burner? Yeah, 104 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: front Marina is triggered by any hostile It is pinnacle 105 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: level and it is triggered by any hostile attack against 106 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: US forces. Uh. And it's not necessarily a nuclear incident. No, 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: but um, it can be. It can lead to a 108 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: nuclear war. So it's kind of considered part of that 109 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: whole family of nuclear jargon. Yeah. And also, don't think 110 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: I said it's a hostile attack by someone that we're 111 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: not already at war with. That is a big caveat, 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: because I guess if you're if you're already at war's 113 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: front burner, front burner, there's another front burner. Yes, that's 114 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: that's a good point to make, dude. Um there's also 115 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: empty Quiver, which is that's the name that should have 116 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: been given to the travolt A Slater movie. Um, that's 117 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: where the nuclear weapons stolen. Um. And I gotta say, 118 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what's scarier than a nuclear weapon can 119 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: be stolen, or that it happens often enough that there's 120 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a name for it. Uh, do we go over bent 121 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: spear yet? No, not to be confused with burning spear. No, 122 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: a bent spear is an incident, nuclear incident that's a 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: big deal, but it's not pinnacle level. And this is 124 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: like if someone violated a regulation or a procedure or 125 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: something when you're storing or transporting a nuclear weapon. Like 126 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: it's like a three Stooges level type of nuclear accident 127 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: um where nothing, nothing, really bad results from it. Uh, 128 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: it's just somebody screwed up. And Ed gave this example. 129 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I had not heard of this one, but apparently in 130 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: two thousand seven there was a burning spear. I'm sorry 131 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: that was genuine. There was a bent spear incident um 132 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: where six armed nuclear warheads were loaded on a B 133 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: fifty two and they walked away slapping the dust off 134 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: of their hands and turned in for a good night's 135 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: rest and did not leave a guard. These six armed 136 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: nuclear warheads were left aboard a B fifty two that 137 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: was unguarded overnight and the next morning they flew him 138 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: across the country as scheduled. Okay, so nothing happened. No, 139 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: it's like one of those ones where you find that 140 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: you've bitten down to your cuticles because you're just so 141 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: mortified at the idea of how bad things could have gone. 142 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: But they just just we just narrowly averted crisis. All right, 143 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Are there any of these other terms that matter to you? No? Okay, 144 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: all right, well we'll talk about We'll go over some 145 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: broken arrows later and some actual incidences. Um, but we 146 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: should talk a little bit just about nuclear weapons. Uh. 147 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: They are very much classified as to where they are, 148 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: and the Upper Brass basically has an exception to that 149 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: where if there is an incident and it presents a 150 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: hazard to the public, like boy, we need to get 151 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: people out of there, and we actually need to cop 152 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: to this thing. Uh, then that is an exception where 153 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: you can reveal that they're like surprised you're living near 154 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: some nuclear warheads. He didn't realize it. But over there 155 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: in that silo, it is it is not wheat I get. 156 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: I get the impression. Also, where you know, seven hundred 157 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: and fifty soldiers suddenly converge on a farm field where 158 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: a plane went down, Um, it's it's usually kind of 159 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: already old news to the locals that there's a nuclear 160 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: bomb somewhere in play, especially if this happens to take 161 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: place during the fifties or the sixties, which were the 162 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: the worst decades in American history for near miss nuclear accidents. Yeah, 163 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: and it's interesting. I never really uh, I kind of 164 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: just thought like, oh, it's because technology, and that's sort 165 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: of true, and that uh, in the fifties and sixties, 166 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: if you wanted to drop a nuclear bomb, that's why 167 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: they say drop a nuclear bomb, because you were literally 168 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: doing that. It was not attached to some missile on 169 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: some base. It was in the belly of a plane 170 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: and you flew over a site and opened doors and 171 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: dropped a bomb. Yes, the right, that's how you delivered 172 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb. And so because planes were so intimately 173 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: connected with delivering a nuclear bomb. Early on in the 174 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: Cold War, there was a guy who took over Strategic 175 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Air Command and I think ninety seven, and he was 176 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: an old bomber pilot and he said, look, man, here's 177 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: our new strategy. We're going to keep bombers loaded with 178 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: nuclear bombs in the air at all times. There will 179 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: always be multiple B fifty twos flying around with loaded 180 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons all the time, ready within striking distance of Russia. 181 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: And so this thing was called Operation Chrome Dome, where 182 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: pairs of B fifty twos would take off for twenty 183 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: four hour missions. They would refuel in the air. There 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: would be multiple pilots aboard so that they could trade 185 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: off shifts because they would stay aloft for twenty four hours, 186 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: and then before they came back to base the land 187 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: at the end of twenty four hours, another pair would 188 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: have taken off. And from what I saw, UM, at 189 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: the minimum of Operation Chrome Dome, there were always at 190 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: least four B fifty twos in the air flying these 191 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: routes like near Russia. UM, usually there was twelve in 192 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: the air. And then during the Cuban Missile Crisis, at 193 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the height of Operation Chrome Dome, there were seventy five 194 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: B fifty twos in the air with nuclear weapons ready 195 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: to strike at any given time. And because there were 196 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: so many planes taking off and landing constantly with nuclear bombs, 197 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the chances of an accident with one of these nuclear 198 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: bombs escalated tremendously. And that was these decades, the decades 199 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: that Operation Chrome Dome lasted, UM when these nuclear weapon problems, 200 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: what we call broken arrows, really kind of stepped up. Yeah, 201 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: and I mean that's if you've seen Doctor Strangelove, that's 202 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: what that uh, you know, there's kind of three parts 203 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: to the story. In one part is up in the 204 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: air in one of these bomber planes. And that's what 205 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Slim Pickens and James Earl Jones are doing up there. 206 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: They are just manning a flight that is flying close 207 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: to the Soviet border and uh, hoping that they just 208 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: land and take off again the next day and fly 209 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: and it's boring and they land again, and like I said, 210 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: the ideas, you do this over and over and over 211 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: and nothing ever happens. Um. But of course in Strangelove 212 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: things go wrong. Um. But that yeah, that's what they 213 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: were doing up there. Yep. So that's operation Chrome Dome 214 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: and UM. Eventually the we developed innercontinental ballistic missiles, those 215 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: ones that you talked about, like in in the ground 216 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: in a base. They were capable of striking Moscow from Kansas. 217 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: When we developed those in the sixties, we said, okay, 218 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: we don't need this Chrome Dome strategy any longer. But 219 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: also because there were so many accidents, and because the 220 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: accidents were so costly bad and yet still just near 221 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: misses from a nuclear explosion. UM, the idea of this 222 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: chrome dome strategy was like, we we can't do this anymore. 223 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: This it's just too too risky. Basically, should we take 224 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a break? I believe so, Charles, all right, we're gonna 225 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: take a break and we'll talk a little bit about 226 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of how a nuclear bomb works 227 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: right after this. All right, Chuck. So if you're I 228 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: think we should do a nuclear um bomb episode someday, 229 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: where do we go over? This? Was it during the 230 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: meltdowns episode? Yeah? It must have been like a fission reaction, yeah, 231 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: because it does seem pretty pretty familiar, it doesn't it. Yeah, 232 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: because you know what a nuclear bomb is is is 233 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: detonating and instigating or causing always starting stuff a fission reaction. Um. 234 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Well that was the early ones, right yeah. Yeah, So 235 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: how this works as a nuclear reaction is plutonium and 236 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: uranium UM being compressed and smashing into other plutonium and 237 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: uranium to get a nuclear fission reaction going right. Uh? 238 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: And the early uh, I guess h bombs is what 239 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: they call them initially, right, hydrogen bombs? Well, atomic bombs, 240 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: I think initially yeah, atomic bombs who were very rudimentary, 241 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: rudimentary Wow, Yeah, tried to dress them up by adding 242 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: an extra syllable, but they were still rudimentary. They were rudimentary. Uh. 243 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: And in fact, the UH, the very first bombs that 244 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: were dropped on Hiroshima actually fired a gun type mechanism 245 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: to set off this reaction. Right, It was like, yeah, 246 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: they would shoot uranium at uranium and that that would 247 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: set off the fission reaction, and like, you can produce 248 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: a pretty substantial um explosion like they did over her 249 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Right, And but compared to the other 250 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: way that they later quickly figured out, I believe in 251 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: the fifties they moved over I think those were the 252 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: hydrogen bombs thermonuclear bombs where they used fusion, where it 253 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: was an implosion that pressed the material, the plutonium or 254 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: or the uranium together to create this nuclear reaction. That's 255 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: when you got something in the yield of mega tons, 256 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: millions and millions of tons worth of TNT explosive power, 257 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: where the one in Hiroshima was like fifteen kilo tons, 258 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand tons of t n T. Yeah, and 259 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: thank god they hadn't figured that out at that point. Yeah, 260 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: because those earliest broken arrow ones were like, dude, if like, 261 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: if this had been like a fusion bomb, who knows 262 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: what would have happened, although I can't tell if if 263 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: one was safer than the other. And Ed rightly points 264 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: out the reason all these were near mrs was because 265 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: along the way, scientists thought, we need to include some 266 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: fail safes here so that if something does go wrong, um, 267 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: a cascading string of multiple failures have to happen in 268 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: a certain order for this thing to actually go off, 269 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: or you have to make it so it's purposefully happens 270 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: in this order to actually go off, and that if 271 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: one thing doesn't happen in this this cascade, then the 272 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: thing won't actually have a nuclear detonation. And the the 273 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: fact that the scientists worked in these safety mechanisms, that's 274 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: what kept like South Carolina and North Carolina from having 275 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: entire town's level the nuclear explosions accidentally. That's because what 276 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: happens now with this implosion that it is this nuclear 277 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: material is packed and surrounded by high explosives, just regular 278 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: conventional explosives, and this is you know, these things go 279 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: off and they create a big boom in and of 280 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: themselves that is very dangerous. But like you said, there 281 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: are so many safety features built in and unless you 282 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: have that um, that exact implosion pattern that you need, 283 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: it might be scary. But uh, these high explosive going 284 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: off don't necessarily mean that there will be that fusion reaction. 285 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: And if it gets shot, like let's say somebody, you know, 286 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: somebody bombs your bomb, that doesn't doesn't necessarily mean and 287 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: probably means it won't happen. It will it will again 288 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: be a big boom, and but it will break apart 289 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: that nuclear material and just scatter it around. It's not 290 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: going to compress it. And the way you need to 291 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: create that fission reaction. No, And that's that's what a 292 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: dirty bomb is. It's where you're you're not creating a 293 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: nuclear explosion, but you're explo osian is spreading radioactive material 294 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: that contaminates an area, which is bad enough, but it's 295 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as an actual sustain nuclear explosion. 296 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: And because the the nuclear bombs were made in such 297 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: a way, like you said, that explosive pattern has to 298 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: happen exactly just so you're probably not going to get 299 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: that same pattern if that those explosives go off from 300 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: hitting the ground after being dropped fifteen thousand feet or 301 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: in a burning in a jet fuel fire from a 302 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: crash jet. They will still explode, like you were saying, 303 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: but it's not going to create that nuclear explosion. It 304 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: still will make you bite your finger nois cuticle though, Yeah, 305 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: it'll it'll go up that pinnacle chain, right. Um. I'm 306 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: also not sure about how bombs are now, but I 307 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: know that for a while and maybe that's still still 308 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: the case. They're just physically distanced, like those explosives are 309 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: are not right next to the nuclear capsule, and that 310 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: distance can actually help event those nuclear explosions. Yeah. Or 311 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: there's like um an electra, an electronic circuit that has 312 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: to be completed for the detonator to go off, and 313 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: so if even if it's exposed to flames or impact, 314 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: it's still not going to go off because it's detonated electronically. 315 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: There's like more safety systems that they worked in. But 316 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: initially one of the earliest ones they had with those 317 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: imploding h bombs was that they just simply wouldn't put 318 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: the core of the nuclear material that was to be 319 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: imploded in the bomb. It really just be like a 320 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: five thousand or you know, twenty thousand ton bomb of 321 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: high high yield explosives, of high explosives, but the nuclear 322 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: core wasn't plugged into the center, so it might be 323 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: on the same plane, but it wasn't plugged in. And 324 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: at least some cases in other cases in the the 325 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: military used that the the core wasn't inserted into the 326 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: bomb at the time excuse very frequently to basically say 327 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: there was really no chance of this becoming a nuclear explosion. 328 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of debate about just how true 329 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: that is in some of these instances where some of 330 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: these were fully armed nuclear bombs that just so happened. 331 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: We lucked out that the the um the pattern of 332 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: explosion with the high explosives didn't follow the right the 333 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: right pattern to set off that that nuclear reaction. Yeah, 334 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: and again, um, these protocols came about in the sixties 335 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: and seventies, which is why most of these, I almost 336 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: all these broken arrow incidences were in the fifties and sixties. Uh. 337 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: In the nineteen nineties, I think in nineteen ninety there 338 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: was a technical report on the safety of our arsenal 339 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: conducted by independently by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and they 340 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: vary and this is great for for you know, the 341 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: general public. In dumb dums like us. They just gave 342 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: it like a school rating, like A through F basically 343 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: on all the all the weapons that we've used from 344 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty to seventy six and or no, I guess 345 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: up until the nineties. But every weapon from fifty to 346 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: seventy six received a D except for one, and that 347 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: that one was the minute Man two and it got 348 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: a C plus C plus C plus, which is pretty 349 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: nice especially among these. But everything else got a D 350 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: for twenty six years. Right, that just got it just 351 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: goes to show you, like just how poorly these things 352 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: were um safety mechanized, I guess. But even still, even 353 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: despite you know that, like they still went to some 354 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: extent to make them safer, but they just hadn't gone 355 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: far enough. And yet despite that, we still didn't manage 356 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: to accidentally blow ourselves up with the nuclear bomb. Despite 357 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: all the broken arrows that we have gone through, which 358 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: will now go through, should we take a break and 359 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: then go through some of these are sure? Do some 360 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: I can break that little word playing no, no, Well, 361 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: we'll take a break, all right, take a break, right, yeah, 362 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with broken arrows. Okay, Chuck, So 363 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: we um we As far as we know, the military 364 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: will cop to thirty two broken arrows in the history 365 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: of the Atomic Age as far as the United States goes, um, 366 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: other countries have their own, and apparently the Soviet Union 367 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: had at least as many, if not more, than we did, 368 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: which if you've seen Chernobyl you know that they were 369 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: probably like hundreds more. Yeah, yeah, and and possibly the 370 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: same for us. It makes a really good point that, 371 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, the once the intercontinental ballistic missiles came along 372 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: and we didn't need Operation Chrome Dome anymore, broken arrows 373 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: all but vanished. But it's also possible that the military 374 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: just decided, like, we're just not going to publicly announce 375 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: these things any longer, which is entirely possible. Who knows. 376 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: But as as far as it goes officially, there have 377 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: been thirty two broken arrow pinnacle incidents that have happened 378 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: in the nation's history, and some of them are just 379 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: absolute doozies. Yeah, so we'll go over some of these. Um. 380 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I guess we can start with the first one, just 381 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: for nostalgia's sake. This was February a B thirty six 382 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: B Peacemaker bomber uh set flight from Alaska, and this 383 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: is just a training mission where they want to simulate 384 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: a nuclear strike against Russia. But they did have a 385 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: big bomb on board. It was a five thousand pound 386 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: bomb with just a conventional explosives that wasn't uh UM 387 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: or at least a Department of Defense in the Air 388 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: Force say, and we're gonna be caveating all these because 389 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: you know we we can only say what they told us. 390 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: But they said that there was no plutonium core on 391 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: the plane. Um. But this is one of the planes 392 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: that took off had engine trouble. The crew bailed out 393 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: and set off the bomb in the air and then 394 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: bailed out of the plane and the bomb luckily went 395 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: off over the ocean, right. And this this kind of 396 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: strikes at the core of a lot of these accidents. 397 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Like whenever you hear about um like or whenever you 398 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: think about, why haven't we've been obliterated by a meteor 399 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: or something, it seems like the world is just full 400 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: of people, but there is way more empty land and 401 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: water still then there are massive amounts of people. So 402 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: the fact that we haven't been hit by the big asteroid, 403 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: or that a lot of these bombs go off in 404 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: places where there are no people. It is lucky, but 405 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: the stats are also in our favor. Yeah, it's either 406 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: that or we're live being in a computer simulation one 407 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: of the two exactly, or in the matrix. So um 408 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: that was the first one that was in nineteen fifty 409 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: and the fact that the government says there was there 410 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: was only like a um A uh what what did 411 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: you call it? Uh? Like what was the kind of 412 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: UM flight it was on? Just like a training mission? Training? Yes, 413 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: so there was a training plug inside of the thing. 414 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: It was it's made of lead rather than plutonium. And 415 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: that actually probably holds up to scrutiny because in the 416 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: early fifties they that's the kind that they were using. 417 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: There were small enough that you could send one of 418 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: the pilots or one of the co pilots or somebody 419 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: to the back to actually arm the nuclear weapon with 420 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the plug, and if they were on a training mission, 421 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: there really wouldn't be much used for that. So that 422 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: probably was a non nuclear bomb that went off. But 423 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: by the the late fifties, the the government had moved 424 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: on to much bigger bombs and because they decided that 425 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: they needed to be hair trigger ready. They were armed, 426 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: despite what the government says. They're These type of bombs 427 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: that they moved to are called sealed pit weapons, where 428 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: that core was inserted and then the bomb was sealed 429 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and then it was loaded onto the plane. So the 430 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: plane was flying around with a fully active, ready to 431 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: go nuclear bomb. So anything starting in the late fifties 432 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: onward is suspicious. If the government saying that it wasn't 433 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: an active nuclear bomb, that's right, very true. Here's another one, 434 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: and we're just kind of picking through these. I think 435 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: gave us like seventeen or eighteen to choose from, but 436 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: I thought like all thirty two were on here. No, No, 437 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: it just seemed that way. Uh, this one in March, 438 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: and this represents sort of one that's happened a few times, 439 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: which is where a plane and the bomb in the 440 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: plane will just vanish, never to be heard from again. 441 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: And that happened on March tenth, the B forty seven 442 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: strato Jet. It was most to refuel in mid air 443 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: over the Mediterranean Sea, but the plane never showed up 444 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: for that dinner date. And uh, they never found the plane, 445 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: and it had two nuclear capsules and they were never 446 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: found either. And Um, that was I think nineteen fifty six. 447 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: You said, if you fast forward a little bit to 448 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight, that was a really really bad year 449 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: for broken arrow incidents. I mean, if you're a fan 450 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: of broken arrow incidents, it's a great year. But for 451 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: the rest of us, it was a bad year. Um. 452 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: From January thirty one to March eleven, there were three 453 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: So in less than six weeks there were three broken 454 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: arrow incidents, two of which were among the most famous 455 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: broken arrow incidents ever to take place. The first one 456 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: produced what's known as the Tybee bomb. You've heard of 457 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: the Tybee bomb. Okay, So, Um, there was a B 458 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: forty seven that was on a training flight and stance, 459 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: this is nineteen fifty eight. It's entirely possible that it 460 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: was a fully active nuclear weapon that it was flying 461 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: around with the government says no. Other people say absolutely was. 462 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: But Um, the on the training mission, the B fifty 463 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: two or I'm sorry, the B forty seven was, um, 464 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: became in contact with a fighter jet it was also 465 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: training and pretending to attack it, and they accidentally knocked 466 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: itself out and knocked the B forty seven out the 467 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: the B forty seven crew ejected the jettison the bomb, 468 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: and four weeks afterward they looked around Tybee Island to 469 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: find this bomb and they still to this day haven't 470 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: found it Tybee Island, which is off the coast of Savannah, Georgia. Uh. 471 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: And he said that the Fight six was pretending to attack. 472 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: It was a just like a training thing. Yeah. Yeah, 473 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: and it got too close and I think took its 474 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: own wing off and crippled the B forty seven. I 475 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: think peo peo peo the whole time. Yeah, basically, And 476 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: it was a it was a Mark thirty six bomb too. 477 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: This is really important. It was a four ton hydrogen 478 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: bomb that may have been fully active. And it's just 479 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: somewhere off, like right off of the coast of Tybee Island, somewhere. 480 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: If you've ever been to Tybee Island, this explains quite 481 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: a bit about Tybee Island that there's a four ton 482 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: hydrogen bomb just sitting right off the coat. Now, what 483 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: does that mean? Are you knocking Tybee? No? I think 484 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: j yeah. Jerry loves Tybee. It's a great place. It's 485 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: its own place, and I love it for that. But 486 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: also super duper weird. Well, what I can't figure out 487 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: is why they can't find this thing. That just seems 488 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: it just seems impossible to me that you can't find 489 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: this given that Tybee is not the hugest place. Uh No, 490 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: I agree. I think it's just one of those needle 491 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: in the haystack things. By now, it's probably been covered 492 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: with so much like silt and sediment, they may never 493 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: find it. But I read this really interesting article, and 494 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of articles written about the search. 495 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: There's a guy who I think is a former Air Force, 496 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: uh commander. I can't remember what he did in the 497 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: Air Force or the military, but he Um, he got 498 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: interested in the idea of chasing down these lost oaken arrows, 499 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: and um, he searched for the Tybee bomb and he 500 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: claimed to have found it at one point. Um, But 501 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened with that. But this article 502 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: called the Saga of the Tybee Bomb. It was by 503 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Roger Pinckney and Gardening Gun Magazine, and oh, he really 504 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: played up the southern thing that he in his writing. 505 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, but it was good. It was a 506 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: good article. But he interviewed a shrimp boat captain or no. 507 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: He interviewed the nephew of a friend of a shrimp 508 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: boat captain who on his deathbed says that he found 509 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: the bomb and said exactly where he trawled it too, 510 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: and then cut it loose when he realized it was 511 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: a bomb and never told anybody, or he did try 512 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: to tell somebody and they ignored him. But um, he 513 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: kind of left this legacy of potentially where the bomb 514 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: is and he said it was right off of the 515 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: dock of the Coastguard post on Tybee Island. Well, maybe 516 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: they never found it because it was after his long 517 00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: list of shrimp recipes. It's possible, shimp Newberg. That was 518 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: a great, great movie, was it? Was it not? I 519 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: don't I don't think so. I don't think Forrest compass Aged? Well, 520 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: oh really, I'll have to go see it then again. Yeah, 521 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: that was a sweet movie. Yeah all right, well, okay, okay, 522 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: we'll take that up later. All right, Well, let's go 523 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: with another one, another very famous one. On March eleventh, 524 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: when the United States Air Force it was a B 525 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: fifty seven I'm sorry, by going to Britain and it 526 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: had an issue with the locking pin on the bombaye doors, 527 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: there's a story supposedly that one of the co pilots 528 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: went to fix it movie style by hitting the fault 529 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: light with the butt of his gun. It's like right 530 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: out of a movie the Planes Captain just like And 531 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: this may have been a big inspiration for Dr Strange 532 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Love because if you remember in that movie Slim Pickens, 533 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: there's an issue with the bombay doors and he basically 534 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: rides the bomb and very famously at the ending wearing 535 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: his cowboy hat right out of the bombay door. But 536 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: the planes Captain uh climbed into that bombay to go 537 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: check things out and accidentally pulled the emergency release lever 538 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: or pushed a button that he shouldn't have pushed, uh, 539 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: depending on who you're asking. The bomb dropped. These doors 540 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: were closed. Remember, but this is a four ton bombs 541 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: who had just smashed right through those doors, fell fifteen 542 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: thousand feet and blew up a farm in South Carolina. Yeah, like, 543 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: they bombed South Carolina with a nuclear bomb, and just 544 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: by the grace of the nature goddess, there was no 545 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: nuclear explosion, that's right, I mean, but a big boom, yes, 546 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: a huge boom, and it actually ruined the farm of 547 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: the greg family. The Walter Gregg family, and he was 548 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: he lived bitterly the rest of his life because he 549 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: finally sued and got like thirty six grand or something 550 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: like that, which even at the time him wasn't enough 551 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 1: for him to rebuild his house and his farm. And 552 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: no one died that it was just miraculous, but um, 553 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: several members of his family were injured and had to 554 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: go to the hospital. Um, but it was a big deal. 555 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: It left a crater that's still there. It's in mars Bluff, 556 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina, which is not too far from Florence, but 557 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: it was something like five miles from Florence something like that. 558 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: And had this thing gone off, it would have um 559 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: wiped Florence right off of the map. Yeah, it would 560 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: have been a really big deal. And this was just 561 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: in a nuclear accident where somebody accidentally dropped a bomb 562 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: on a farm in in South Carolina. Uh. This other 563 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: one in night and you were right, there were a 564 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: lot in but this one in November was pretty bad. 565 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: It was a B forty seven crashed. It just seems 566 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: like there were nuclear planes crashing all over the place 567 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: because there were so many nuclear flights taking off in landing. 568 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: Every single day. Yeah, and they were moving the bombs 569 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: like from one place to another constantly to Well, this 570 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: one crashed in Texas and it was carrying a nuclear 571 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: weapon and the Air Force kept this one classified for 572 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: a long time. Um, but it had enriched uranium, so 573 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: they figure it was a sealed pit weapon that was 574 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: armed and the high explosive did detonate, but there was 575 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: no nuclear explosion again um, hopefully because of these fail safes. 576 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: But the kicker here is, uh, there was an environmental 577 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: clean up. This was the Air Force said, you know what, 578 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: we should go in there and clean this stuff up 579 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: because it's two thousand eleven, right, That's how long they 580 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: waited to clean the side up. Yeah, and apparently they 581 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: grew grain and fed cattle that grain on this land 582 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: that was a nuclear disaster site because again, like the bomb, 583 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: the nuclear bomb might not actually go off, but those 584 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: high explosives are blowing the nuclear material all over the 585 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: place and just totally contaminating the area. And they didn't 586 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: do anything about it for for what uh three years, 587 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: while they were feeding cattle grown on the land there. 588 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: That's crazy. What else you got? So there were two 589 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: incidents that kind of brought um, the operation Chrome Dome 590 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: era to the to an end. Um. Remember we said 591 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: the intercontinental ballistic missile development really put an end to it. 592 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: But also the idea like this is just too risky, 593 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: and they knew it going into it. They were like, 594 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be flying around with armed nuclear weapons. 595 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: It's far riskier, but it's a great strategy in case 596 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: the the USSR strikes us, we'll be able to strike back. Um. 597 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: So it's worth the trade off. They knew going into it, 598 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: But after all of these accidents, they finally were like, Okay, 599 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: it's not worth the trade off anymore. Um. And the 600 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: last two that really did it in were in January 601 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight, I believe, And those the last 602 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: two that really did Chrome Dome in both happened in January, 603 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: but two years apart, January sixty six and January. And 604 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons that really hastened the 605 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: end of Chrome Dome is because they happened on foreign 606 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: soil where we had air force bases. But we're guests 607 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: of the country and the country that this happened in 608 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: the countries that happened, and we're not very happy with 609 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: us for for allowing these nuclear accidents to take place. Yeah, 610 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: there was one in January. Uh it was a mid 611 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: air another mid air collision during refueling, which if you've 612 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: ever seen those mid air refuelings, it's a tricky thing. 613 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: So you can see how that would happen. And that's, 614 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: of course how strange Love opens over the opening credits 615 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: very famously with the refueling scene. Um shot into very 616 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: sexual nature right on purpose, of course, because it was 617 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick. But this one was near uh palamattas Spain. 618 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: Nice is that right? Um? Yeah, I think that's good enough, 619 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: all right, Um? And that was, like I said, the 620 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: two planes crashed into each other, and four bombs were 621 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: on board. Four. One fell into the ocean, one fell 622 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: on land, and the other two fell on land and 623 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: detonated the high explosives. One went to market And you say, so, yeah, 624 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: one of them one went off I think, uh and 625 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: blew up, you said, out of the four, that's actually 626 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: pretty lucky. No, no, no, one of the three that 627 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: fell on land to actually detonated the high explosives. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. 628 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: And then one the one that went in the ocean, 629 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: like they looked for that for weeks and they finally 630 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: managed to find it, which based on these broken arrow 631 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: um reports, is really rare that to actually find the bomb. 632 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: But they found this one in Spain, and then they 633 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: actually cleaned up the site because this was in Spain, 634 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't just in Texas. So they went to the 635 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: trouble of cleaning up the site and they removed four 636 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: hundred tons of contaminated soil from the crash site where 637 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: this radioactive material had been scattered by the explosion. Amazing. 638 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: So that was that was two years before Chrome Dome. 639 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: And the last one, the one that really brought about 640 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: the end of Chrome Dome, was in Greenland, the incident 641 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: at tu Lea Air Force Base in Greenland in January 642 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight. This one happened and literally from 643 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 1: what I read, the next day, operation Chrome Dome was ended. 644 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: So this was a B fifty two crash crashed onto 645 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: sea ice and apparently they had to get rid of 646 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven thousand cubic meters of snow, ice, 647 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: water and plane junk. Yeah, they removed it to the 648 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: United States because it was contaminated with radioactivity. So the 649 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: fact that happened in Greenland was was bad enough, but 650 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: the Greenland was a territory of Denmark at the time. 651 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: In Denmark had a no nuke policy, so they were 652 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: really unhappy with this. But what's cool is Denmark forced 653 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: the US to conduct an environmental estimate and study this 654 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: stuff to make sure that there were no prolonged effects. 655 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: And I found that there weren't. That's that's what the 656 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: study turned up. But yeah, but this is back in 657 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: the sixties and they're doing this kind of thing, So 658 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: way to go, Denmark. I think we should talk about 659 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: the one over North Carolina too, even though it jumps 660 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: back in time. Is that all right? Yeah, I'm fine 661 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: with jumping back in time. Janu A B fifty two 662 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: got a fuel leak, starts getting out of control, and 663 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: it's trying to get back to its base. The crew ejects. 664 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: The plane breaks apart and crashes near Goldsboro, North Carolina, 665 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: and there were two nuclear bombs on board here uh 666 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: that's separated from the plane and fell to the ground. 667 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: One of them was fully armed hydrogen bomb, had nuclear material. 668 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: Everything was there for a three point eight megaton explosion, 669 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: and it crashed to the ground at high speed and 670 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: disintegrated without either the high explosive or the nuclear explosion, 671 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: going off into sort of a swamp. And what happened 672 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: to the other one, Uh, it actually fell gently to earth. 673 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: It's parachute deployed and it just went got stuck in 674 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: a tree and they got it out. Hydrogen bomb stuck 675 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: in a tree with tons of high explosives attached to it, 676 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: just hanging out. But they managed to get that one back. 677 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: It's amazing when he reads through some of these, it's 678 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: looks like and I know it's not in the case, 679 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: of course, our military does a great job, but it 680 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: looks at times like it's a three Stooges episode. Yeah, Like, 681 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: there was one plane that was pushed off an aircraft 682 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 1: carrier that had a nuclear bomb, just sort of pushed 683 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: off the side of the carrier off the coast of Japan, 684 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: and it's still down there from what they from what 685 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: we understand, here's something horrific, Chuck. The pilot was in 686 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 1: the plane at the time. Really, they've never recovered the plane, 687 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: the pilot, the bomb. It's just down there in like 688 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: twelve thou feet of water, I believe. Yeah, imagine you 689 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: sink pretty fast. Oh god man, No, that's just terrible. 690 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: There was one where ah, this was missiles word ready 691 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: and armed at an Air Force base in New Jersey 692 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: when a helium tank burst. I guess they were blown 693 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: up birthday party balloons, right, And this did not have 694 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: a high explosive detonation, but the missile's fuel tank ruptured, 695 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: and um, there was a big fire. A bunch of these. 696 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: There were fires, like big fires where they thought, you know, 697 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: is it gonna happen or is it not? And luckily 698 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: it did not. No, and I'm sure that was a 699 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: consideration every single time, like is this thing going to 700 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: blow up into a nuclear explosion? I mean some of 701 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: these are are just we just would have been massive. 702 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: The one in um Goldsboro, North Carolina we were talking about, 703 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: had they gone off, it would have been two hundred 704 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: and fifty three times larger than the Hiroshima blasts. Yeah, 705 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: they would have been in normous. I mean, look what 706 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: that one fifteen kiloton bomb did to Hiroshima. Imagine two 707 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three times worse over North Carolina. I'm sure. 708 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: Mean it's just that would have been Georgia, would have 709 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: been South Carolina. It would have been massive and enormous 710 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: and and and the fact that we didn't ever for 711 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: every single one of these, not once did a nuclear 712 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: explosion go off. It's really a testament to the scientists 713 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: who designed this thing to be as safe as as 714 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: humanly possible. And yeah, I mean there's some others like, um, 715 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: the USS Scorpion nuclear sub went down. It had a 716 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: nuclear reactor aboard and a couple of nuclear torpedoes. Um, Like, 717 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: if you go through this list, there's a substantial number 718 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: of nuclear bombs like out there in in the Sea 719 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: of the Philippines, off the azores Um off of Tybee Island, 720 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: just hanging out waiting around, hopefully indefinitely or forever and 721 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: never you know, going off. But I remember that was 722 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: like one of the big concerns among the people living 723 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: on Tybee is like, you know this this high explosives 724 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: are aging. You know, what's gonna happened when they reach 725 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: a certain age? Are they going to become are they 726 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: just gonna blow up? And is somebody's boat going to 727 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: be over the area at the time, Like what what 728 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: are we doing here? And the official thing is like 729 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: it's it's just gone and it's safer to just leave 730 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: it wherever it is and try to move it at 731 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, The other I think funny thing ed 732 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: included here towards the end was uh. He says. There 733 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: are hundreds of other incidentss that would be classified as 734 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 1: bent spears. Uh, Like you know, dropping fully armed nukes 735 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: onto the concrete, he said, more so many times I 736 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: lost count, or just like dropping off the wing of 737 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: an aircraft onto the ground when they were doing something. 738 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: It's um, isn't that a movie? Wasn't that in a movie? 739 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't know that happened in a movie. And it's like, oh, 740 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: it's just so cringe e. It's like a top secret 741 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: or something. Maybe I can only think of the Zucker brothers. 742 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: I went and watched a loaded weapon? Is that good? 743 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: It is? It's good for what it is for sure? Yes? Now, 744 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: was that the Zucker? Yeah? I believe it was one 745 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: of the Zuckers, if not both of them. But Emilia 746 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: west of As he's great. You're a big fan of him. 747 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: I love it. He's he's a good actor. Don't you 748 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: always champion the the sanitation Worker movie Men at Work Work. 749 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: It's such a good movie. I still haven't seen that one. 750 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: You gotta see that one. It's got a real plot 751 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: to it and everything. Yeah, and I mean it's Amilia 752 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: west of As and Charlie Sheen. When else are you 753 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: going to see those two together? Agreed? Thanksgiving? Maybe? Yeah, 754 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: that's right. Maybe maybe Easter depending Maybe they're brothers. They're brothers, 755 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: I know they are. That's why you'd see him together. 756 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Are you telling me that or we're telling 757 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: me the listeners that. Oh I don't know. I'm just 758 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: talking to the ether. Okay, good, Um, Well, since we 759 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: started talking about Emilia west of Az and Charlie Sheen, 760 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: I think it's time for a listener man and Charles, Uh, 761 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: this episode MS out It so happens on the thirty one. 762 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: I believe that's New Year's Eve. That's right. I was 763 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: trying to get you to say it did so. A 764 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: couple of things. Uh. We want to wish everyone a 765 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: happy New Year, first of course, um, and also I 766 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: want to wish a happy birthday to my dear sweet 767 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: wife you me, Happy birthday MS. Thanks man. So happy 768 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: new Year everybody. We hope that it is a spectacular 769 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 1: for you. It's the future now, that's right. So let's 770 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: all kind of shape up and act right for it. 771 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: Let's do okay, So happy New Year everyone, Uh, and 772 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,479 Speaker 1: now it's time for a listener Matt. Yeah, we're gonna 773 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: share a dream here. We don't usually do this because, 774 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: let's face it, listening to someone's dreams is the worst. 775 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: But this was kind of funny. Is from Cassie. She 776 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: wrote it at five thirty am, right off the bat 777 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: after having this dream. Uh. She said, the dream was 778 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: a run I won some random drawing and the prize 779 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: was to sit down on the recording of a podcast 780 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: while you were my area. So you guys come to 781 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: my cabin, which I don't have in real life. You 782 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: explain that you want to record the podcast in bed, 783 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: and uh. So there we are, all three in bed 784 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 1: together wearing button up jammies that no one really wears 785 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: in real life. And you guys are you have your 786 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: microphones and everything, and you're doing your stuff. You should 787 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: know thing, and I'm just sitting there watching and laughing 788 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: and learning. Uh. When you decide that you're done and 789 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: it's time to go to sleep, So we go to 790 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: sleep in the same bed that you recorded from. Josh 791 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: is in the middle and Chuck and I are on 792 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: opposite ends. I was extremely self aware that I roll 793 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: around in my sleep and there's no way your guys 794 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to sleep. And sure enough, after 795 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: a while, Joshua is up and says, I'm gonna go 796 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: watch TV. I can't sleep, So I was mortified that 797 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: I kept him up. And then Chuck rolls over and 798 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: wraps his arm around me and spoons me. And I said, 799 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: what the heck are you doing? And Chuck says, oh, no, no, no, 800 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: this isn't a sexual thing. I'm happily married, as you know. 801 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: But Emily knows that I have to hold on to 802 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: someone in order to fall asleep, so it's okay, so uh, 803 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 1: and he says, normally it's Josh when we do these overnighters, 804 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: but you know, so I usually spoon you. Apparently, yeah, 805 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: well sure everybody knows that. So now there's no way 806 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm falling asleep. I told Chuck I was gonna go 807 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: watch TV with Josh and Chuck says I can't sleep either, 808 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: and ask for pepto bismol and winks at me like 809 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: it's code for something. So Chuck starts laughing and says, no, 810 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: don't worry about the pepto bismol. So then there we 811 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: are all three watching TV on the couch and you 812 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: guys are asking for snacks. I opened my fridge and 813 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: I have tons of expired snacks and I'm embarrassed and 814 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: realized that the snacks are expired and I never even 815 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: fed you dinner. You guys are pretty embarrassing. You guys 816 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: awkwardly pretend to be okay not eating while we're sitting 817 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: on the couch, and your stomachs are literally rumbling extremely loud, 818 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: and finally we all fall asleep on the couch. Uh. 819 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: The next day, you were doing a live show and 820 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: apparently are great friends with my armacist and my pharmacists 821 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: posted selfies with Josh lifting weights at the gym before 822 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: you guys went to do your live show. Are they crazy? 823 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: Where these dreams go? They go all over the place, man, 824 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: all over the place. I don't know how they knew 825 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: that your pre show routine was lifting weights? All right? 826 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: You like to buff up before the show. Sure. Anyway, 827 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm still laughing now and I'm definitely gonna have a 828 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: great day because of this dream. Thank you, I'm sorry, 829 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,720 Speaker 1: and you're welcome. That is from Cassie. Thanks a lot, Cassie, 830 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: much appreciated. Um. Yeah, we'll just move on from that one. 831 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 1: That's right. Uh. If you want to get in touch 832 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 1: with this, like Cassie did, you can go onto stuff 833 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: you Should Know dot com. You can check out our 834 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: social links there and you can send us an email 835 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: send it off to stuff podcast and I heart radio 836 00:48:54,719 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: dot com. Stuff you Should Know is a product and 837 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: of iHeart Radio's How Stuff Works. 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