1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: It's nineteen seventy three in New York City. Feminists are 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: marching in the streets. Women are demanding more than they'd 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: ever been given before, at home, at work, and also 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: in bed. They're experimenting with their bodies with different partners. 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: The clitteral orgasm was on the tips of everybody's tongues. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Sex is not only everywhere in nineteen seventy three, but 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: it's selling enter porn publishing King Bob Guccioni, there's nothing 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: sleazy about sex. Healthy sex is the most wonderful thing 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: in the world. Bob's just off the success of his 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: boundary pushing men's magazine Penthouse, and he's about to launch 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: his next big project, Viva. It was going to try 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: to be for women what Penthouse was for men. Within 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the glossy pages of Viva are groundbreaking male centerfolds, along 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: side stories by legendary feminists like Betty friedan it's cover 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: stars or celebrities like Bianca Jagger and Shelley Duval. Anna 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Wintour was even one of Viva's fashion editors. The covers 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: were gorgeous. Inside it was gorgeous. I just loved looking 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: at it. Viva was defiant Not only was it an 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: erotic magazine for women, it was staffed by women too. 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: But Viva has one bulging obstacle to overcome the man 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: in charge of it all, Bob Guccioni. I mean here, 22 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: he is a guy wearing, you know, open shirts down 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: to his waist and chains, one of which might have 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: had his own penis engraves on it. Well, I started Viva, 25 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: I thought I knew everything he was to know about women. 26 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I thought I was the smartest guy in the world 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: as far as women were concerned. I learned as a 28 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: result of that experience that I didn't begin to know them, 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: nor as any other man I know. So how did 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: a group of scrappy journalists get involved with a porn 31 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: king at the height of the sexual revolution? What were 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: they trying to say with their feminist porn magazine and 33 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: could they actually pull it off? From crooked media and iHeartMedia, 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm journalist and former women's magazine editor Jennifer Romalini, and 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: this is Stiffed, the true story of Bob Guccioni's Viva 36 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: Magazine and the women who made it possible. Listen to 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Stiff starting March thirtieth, on the iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts, 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.