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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode,
Speaker 2: Matthew Tierman is with us investigative journalist, a man who
Speaker 2: knows many things about many people in places all over
Speaker 2: the world. He was just in Ramala, place I haven't
Speaker 2: been to in a while, but I have been, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure it is every bit as lovely as what
Speaker 2: I was there. Tell me about your trip into the
Speaker 2: West Bank, mister Tierman, and what you learned, what you saw,
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Ramala is just the money laundering capital
Speaker 1: of the world. I know how long ago you were there,
Speaker 1: but you got to say it's kind of nice. Maserati's
Speaker 1: not Rickshaw's range Rovers, Mercedes, BMW's jeeps with American flags
Speaker 1: on him, believe it or not. I mean lots of
Speaker 1: Western goods and accoutreman. I mean that place is loaded.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit shocking to the degree that
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I could tell you I was there almost twenty years
Speaker 2: ago and it was not like that. So yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: That tells you a lot. I mean I know that,
Speaker 1: you know, I was there during these hostilities. I went
Speaker 1: in on a Polish passport, since you know, American relations
Speaker 1: are not so good. I did not, you know, telegraph
Speaker 1: that I'm an American Jew from New York, even though
Speaker 1: I don't know look at me, they might have figured
Speaker 1: that out. I ended up talking to some guys from
Speaker 1: Chicago and New York. But I mean that place is
Speaker 1: loaded now twenty years of money laundering since you were
Speaker 1: last there, between US taxpayers, EU taxpayers, the United Nations
Speaker 1: being the the vehicle through which those laundered funds enter Ramala,
Speaker 1: American school uners, schools. The place was over the top.
Speaker 1: People were pretty friendly. It's not Gaza. The hostilities were not,
Speaker 1: you know, of the of the same sort. They certainly
Speaker 1: referred to Israel as an occupying force and they do
Speaker 1: hate Israel and even going to Yasir Arafats too. They
Speaker 1: said that it's removable so that when they take back Jerusalem,
Speaker 1: they can remove Arafats too from Mamala and put it
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem, as per his dying wish. Uh So, it's
Speaker 1: the place is very very odd. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: study in contrast the contrast of what the mainstream media
Speaker 1: conception of the West Bank is versus what it's like
Speaker 1: on the ground, gleaming new malls, Palestinian development bank with
Speaker 1: top quality building materials for its you know, fifteen story skyscrapers.
Speaker 1: Food was quite good, it was It was interesting. I
Speaker 1: was there with Visagrad twenty four group I do work
Speaker 1: with based in Europe, who's been covering the ongoing conflict
Speaker 1: in the Middle East quite tightly on social media. So
Speaker 1: we were interviewing people over there and it was interesting.
Speaker 2: What do they think the Ramalin's, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you call Ramalins and the people of the West Bank.
Speaker 2: Are they basically of the mind that Israel's going to
Speaker 2: do what it does in Gaza and business is going
Speaker 2: to continue over here. What are they saying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. I don't think they think that Israel's
Speaker 1: going to be coming in anytime soon and leveling it
Speaker 1: the way they are with Gaza. And even though they
Speaker 1: are supportive of these terrorist cells, whether it's in the
Speaker 1: North that has Blah or Hamas and Gaza, they don't
Speaker 1: seem as proactively involved. They like their gravy train of
Speaker 1: un money laundering and under schools, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was funny. We're walking, We're going to the main mosque,
Speaker 1: the abdel Nasser Mosque, and we're at this, you know,
Speaker 1: the equivment of what you have in New York, a bodega,
Speaker 1: a little shop with you know, low level food and Sundrys.
Speaker 1: And you had Logan or Jake Paul's new drink Prime
Speaker 1: selling there, which you can't even get in some cities
Speaker 1: in the US because it's so sold out. And so
Speaker 1: there's a weird level of westernization there, the brand and
Speaker 1: licensed logoing copying that goes on. There are American food
Speaker 1: operators there like Pizza Hut KFC, one of our guides
Speaker 1: suggesting KFC stands for Kentucky Fried Camel, but that was
Speaker 1: a licensed, actual American enterprise there. Popeye's Louisiana Kid was
Speaker 1: there a lot and I was there.
Speaker 2: There was a Starbucks ripoff that wasn't spelled Starbucks.
Speaker 1: Is that Stars and Bucks?
Speaker 2: Stars and Bucks?
Speaker 1: Yes, literally the main landmark of Ramala that everybody in
Speaker 1: the Middle East knows. Hey, you go to Vermala, have
Speaker 1: you been to Stars and Bucks? So the story there
Speaker 1: is the guy lifted Starbucks' logo just straight off about
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty years ago, and Starbucks came after him
Speaker 1: for license and trademark infringement, and so he just kind
Speaker 1: of tweaked it a little, so it still looks like
Speaker 1: the Green Circle, but it's now entitled Stars and Bucks
Speaker 1: and it's a coffee shop and a shisha lounge. So
Speaker 1: he smoked some shisha and Stars and Bucks and that's
Speaker 1: overlooking the main square. There are two little squares that
Speaker 1: are connected by one of the main thoroughfares that looks
Speaker 1: like the old prototypical, stereotypical Middle East, very thin road
Speaker 1: congested small shops, and there's you know, the main square
Speaker 1: that Stars and Bucks is over, and then the square
Speaker 1: block away which where there's the monument to the martyrs.
Speaker 1: So you know, old habits do die hard. They love
Speaker 1: the money laundering. But the rhetoric can invect is still
Speaker 1: quite aligned with the Jihattist mentality that West Bank and
Speaker 1: Palestinian affairs were built on.
Speaker 2: Do you have any sense as to what the belief
Speaker 2: over there is not so much in the West Bank,
Speaker 2: more on the Israel side of things, but the future
Speaker 2: of net Yahoo in all of this, people have been
Speaker 2: asking me, and I always tell them like, if you
Speaker 2: think you if you think American politics are opaque and
Speaker 2: overly complicated, go check out what's going on over in
Speaker 2: Israel with the Kanesset and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: What do you do you have any take on that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, as you know, parliamentary systems are
Speaker 1: by their nature much sloppier because you need coalitions. You're
Speaker 1: very fragmented, many many parties across the entire spectrum of
Speaker 1: far right to far left with everything in between. And
Speaker 1: so net Yahoo I think it was like four or
Speaker 1: five elections they had to hold with fractured coalitions to
Speaker 1: rebuild a government that had some level stability. After October seventh,
Speaker 1: his popularity is way down. That being said, as long
Speaker 1: as they're at war, there will not be a snap election.
Speaker 1: They are unified behind essentially the military force and the
Speaker 1: military management as it stands, which has many political appointees,
Speaker 1: so they will not be you know, the political strife
Speaker 1: we saw last year with judicial reform rearing its head
Speaker 1: again and creating catalyzing snap elections. Netanyahu has probably done.
Speaker 1: His career is probably done, and we've said that many
Speaker 1: times in the past, but here there is a lot
Speaker 1: of antipathy after what happened October seventh, and certainly there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who feel that he had
Speaker 1: some blame in terms of being asleep at the wheel
Speaker 1: because they were so distracted with domestic politics they forgot
Speaker 1: that their number one predicate, as you know, leaders of
Speaker 1: this country more than any other, is security and stabilizing
Speaker 1: the security, the defensive capabilities, and there was a failure
Speaker 1: that being said, as long as they're at war and
Speaker 1: it's hot and kinetic and in the north and in
Speaker 1: the south with Gaza, probably open any snap elections. So
Speaker 1: some are arguing and rumor mongering that he has an
Speaker 1: incentive to keep the war going because as a result,
Speaker 1: he will stay in power. I think that's a little
Speaker 1: overly cynical, and I'm quite cynical, but I think that's
Speaker 1: a little overly cynical. Well, everyone in Israel is shaken
Speaker 1: up by what happened and wants to end Hamas and
Speaker 1: restabilize the north where Husbala is continuing to be a
Speaker 1: kinetic threat.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what just happened with the election in
Speaker 2: Al Salvador, a country that people in the West really
Speaker 2: know about because it used to be the murder capital
Speaker 2: of the world per capital, at least close to it.
Speaker 2: Number one numbers, well, it was Al Salvador was right there.
Speaker 2: I think it was number two. Yeah, but number two yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: As I said number one, number two was one of
Speaker 2: the highest murder places in the entire.
Speaker 1: Honduras was like I remember friends from Honduras, from San
Speaker 1: Pedro Sula, which is the second city in Honduras, and
Speaker 1: that place like laps everywhere else. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: in Detroit, it's like, what like four out of one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand get murdered, and San Pedro Sue it's like
Speaker 1: three hundred out of one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: The numbers are staggering. But in Al Salvador that has
Speaker 2: completely turned around and there's probably a lesson for it.
Speaker 2: So we're going to we're gonna talk about that election
Speaker 2: and Bukeali the president once again. Here. But first a
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Speaker 2: Investigative journalist bou Keley wins bigly in El Salvador. What happened?
Speaker 2: Why does it matter?
Speaker 1: Apparently? You know, much like we'll talk about Argentina with inflation,
Speaker 1: but you know, when you have a massive crime problem,
Speaker 1: the guy who actually says and then does deliver on
Speaker 1: cleaning up crime gets a big mandate. I think this's
Speaker 1: got to be the biggest mandate in any democratic systemic
Speaker 1: election ever. Eighty five percent or something of the popular vote,
Speaker 1: fifty eight out of sixty seats in the National Assembly,
Speaker 1: which is what that's what like ninety eight ninety six,
Speaker 1: ninety six percent or so of the seats in Parliament
Speaker 1: are now you know Buukelly's party, which has been built
Speaker 1: around him. Of course, you have to worry about cultive personality,
Speaker 1: you have to worry about dictatorial power creeping in. But
Speaker 1: so far all of the Western media sphere lies or
Speaker 1: smears that, you know, he's a dictator, the cool dictator
Speaker 1: they call him. Well is he Are you a dictator
Speaker 1: if the people vote for you overwhelmingly. We've had the
Speaker 1: debate about Victor orbon as well. You know, he keeps
Speaker 1: winning these mandates and the West says, oh, he's a dictator,
Speaker 1: or he's an autocrat or a fascist. Weill, Bukelly has
Speaker 1: done something really pretty revolutionary in this hemisphere, especially south
Speaker 1: of that border and looking southwards, these are very dangerous
Speaker 1: areas as we're talking about massive massive cartel activity, kidnapping
Speaker 1: and ransoming, mass murder over the slightest trifling things. But again,
Speaker 1: the drug trade is the main reason human migration as
Speaker 1: well human trafficking, and he has cleaned up that area.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we have this gangs in New
Speaker 1: York like MS thirteen that hearken from these regions in
Speaker 1: Central America, and we can't clean up Long Island from
Speaker 1: these drug gangs. But he's cleaned up his country very
Speaker 1: quickly within one term, and so he's gotten a second term,
Speaker 1: and so they'll, you know, say he's a dictator. But again,
Speaker 1: largest mandate popular mandate maybe in history by percentage of
Speaker 1: any country in the world. What he's doing, you're right,
Speaker 1: is instructive. Apparently when you have high crime, tough on
Speaker 1: crime does pay. Just like Malay getting elected Argentina over
Speaker 1: economic issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you about you were down
Speaker 2: there right in Argentina. We'll get into that.
Speaker 1: And was there for the inaugeration? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is Latin America? Why can't they figure this out?
Speaker 2: Honestly on crime and on economics, specifically inflation. What do
Speaker 2: they not get? I mean, the regimes that run these
Speaker 2: countries and just across the board. Almost a few exceptions.
Speaker 2: El salvad we're talking about one and the new leadership
Speaker 2: in Argentina. But Latin America is poorly, poorly led right now,
Speaker 2: right whether you're talking about Mexico or Venezuela or Brazil
Speaker 2: or what's going on. What do they have to figure
Speaker 2: out Communists?
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this in the past, and I
Speaker 1: did a lot on this. During the Brazilian election, there
Speaker 1: was a group, an entity called the Forum sell Palo
Speaker 1: that was charted around nineteen ninety one by Fidel Castro
Speaker 1: and Lula da Silva, the current again president of Brazil,
Speaker 1: led out of prison to run election was brazenly stolen.
Speaker 1: There's more than enough evidence out there. And the Forum
Speaker 1: sell Palo was created to fill the gap when the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union went bust, because that was all the money
Speaker 1: that was coming into the hemisphere of these third world nations,
Speaker 1: just like in Africa, just like in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: in uh In uh In incubating the p l O
Speaker 1: and other of the Jahada separist movements. Uh in South America,
Speaker 1: it was a Forum South Palo and they filled the
Speaker 1: gap from the Soviet Union with with Castro and Chavez
Speaker 1: running it out of Cuba, and that's how they took
Speaker 1: over Venezuela. That's how they took over in Nicaragua, That's
Speaker 1: how they took over uh, Bolivia, Brazil, more recently Colombia
Speaker 1: and Chile. Colombia and Chile, we we're kind of writy
Speaker 1: conservative nations. Columbia was was run for many years by
Speaker 1: you know what we would call Republicans if you had
Speaker 1: to break it down to that dichotomy that we understand.
Speaker 1: And now you have Petro who was a Marxist Naco
Speaker 1: narco trafficante, a gorilla in the forests. Uh so he's
Speaker 1: an He's a full on communist. Uh uh Borich in
Speaker 1: Chile was the head of the Marxist Students League, student activist,
Speaker 1: you know, not too different than Brandon uh Brandon Marshall
Speaker 1: and uh Branda with brit To Johnson in Chicago the
Speaker 1: teachers Union. Hack. I mean, somebody's never run anything, but
Speaker 1: all of a sudden ends up as president of a
Speaker 1: nation that again was relatively conservative economically, was very classically liberal.
Speaker 1: You had the Chicago Boys deregulating economy in Chile's great success,
Speaker 1: Argentina's been run by the Parentists, the you know Juan
Speaker 1: prone a Vita, don't cry for me, Argentina, that lady
Speaker 1: played by Madonna in nineteen nineties. They have been run
Speaker 1: by the paranist regime and its predecessors also incubated by
Speaker 1: the Forum. So Palo Christina Kirschner, her husband Nester Kirchner,
Speaker 1: Fernandez and now Argentinians finally said, you know, after this
Speaker 1: crippling hyperinflation over the last ten ten years, I mean
Speaker 1: really thought the highest level of inflation in the country.
Speaker 1: Every day price is doubling sort of thing. The stuff
Speaker 1: that you read about in Zimbabwe, the ymar Republic, and
Speaker 1: this was a country that one hundred years ago was
Speaker 1: third wealthiest in the world after the US and the UK.
Speaker 1: So Malay got an overwhelming mandate. The Marxist got sent packing.
Speaker 1: The reason Argentina was able to do it was quite simple.
Speaker 1: They maintained paper ballots. Paper ballots are an integral part
Speaker 1: of the electoral process. In Brazil they got rid of
Speaker 1: paper ballots. There was no audible ballot scheme was all digital,
Speaker 1: and so they cheat in Brazil.
Speaker 2: Did the Communist cheat in Brazil?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, and you know, you know, and I talked
Speaker 1: about it. I covered it in depth a year and
Speaker 1: a half ago. It was brazen what they did. Now
Speaker 1: they stripped Balls and Hour of his right to run again.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court, this is the Supreme Court that detained
Speaker 1: myself and the traveling party that included Jason Miller when
Speaker 1: we met with Ballsonaro like three years ago. They detained
Speaker 1: this at the airport and wanted to know everyone we
Speaker 1: met with. So it was like full Stazi tactics. And
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has their own law enforcement wing, and
Speaker 1: they let Lula out of prison. They overturned all his
Speaker 1: multiplicity of convictions and the guy should have been in
Speaker 1: jail for the rest of his life. And then some
Speaker 1: I mean they let out people in Lula's party that
Speaker 1: were sentenced to four hundred years for criminal corruption. So
Speaker 1: it's gross what's going on there. Brazil is probably lost
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future, much like I view Pennsylvania was
Speaker 1: constant in Michigan, but Argentina all of a sudden is
Speaker 1: like this bulwark now and the shining light. Malay's going
Speaker 1: to do a lot of big things. He's got the mandate.
Speaker 2: Let me bring it home to because you mentioned that
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you go a little deeper into it, Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 2: you say we got big problems there. I have friends
Speaker 2: who are tied into politics in Pennsylvania very intimately, and
Speaker 2: they tell me similar things, and it has to do
Speaker 2: with just the party infrastructure, voter registration advantage, early voting campaigns,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Is that part of your concern there? And
Speaker 2: tell me about the other states.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think in those three states in particular,
Speaker 1: these were you know, the purple swing states, and then
Speaker 1: twenty twenty happened and they were very very successful in
Speaker 1: taking control and Democrat like Wisconsin. The last bastion was
Speaker 1: the state Supreme Court that went Democrat with Janet Gaevich.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania DEM governor, dam Legislature, DEM State Supreme Court. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know the same way that they approved. Whether you
Speaker 1: believe that there was ballot stuffing or is more derivative
Speaker 1: effect of voter fraud, whether it's the media obfuscation uh
Speaker 1: or the you know, ballots during COVID going to every
Speaker 1: household uh. And the the late the late tabulation thereof
Speaker 1: that was allowable because the state legislature said, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna do it. The Supreme courts and the states
Speaker 1: said we're just going to allow it, and they they
Speaker 1: violated the separation of powers. Well, you know, the Dems
Speaker 1: now control those three states in all of their facets politically,
Speaker 1: and even if the people want to move to the
Speaker 1: populace and conservative right, good luck, good luck. And I
Speaker 1: think you know, Arizona and Georgia, which were hard red states,
Speaker 1: are now purple. And part of it was, you know,
Speaker 1: the bankruptcy of the rn C and the candidates that
Speaker 1: Trump endorsed and brought forward. I mean, these were candidates
Speaker 1: that would never ever win. Mastriano ahs Herschel Walker, Carrie Lake.
Speaker 1: You need to pick up independence if you're gonna win
Speaker 1: these purple swing states. And because these states in the
Speaker 1: northern Rust Belt, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan have incredible Union
Speaker 1: union faithful union rank and file. It makes up such
Speaker 1: a percentage they're well organized. The Union states organized their
Speaker 1: union rank and file real well for elections, Michigan being
Speaker 1: the greatest example, with Big Auto there. For one hundred
Speaker 1: years now, there has been a peel off of the
Speaker 1: Union support because of right to work in other states,
Speaker 1: because Trump and Bannon with economic nationalism did drive a
Speaker 1: lot of FDR Union Dems to the right in the
Speaker 1: pro Trump camp. They're not the party of Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 1: and Gavin Newsom and wokeism. But that being said again,
Speaker 1: if the people there, if you have the margin is
Speaker 1: five or ten percent, that swings it to the right.
Speaker 1: The Union organizing the democratic policy making that will go
Speaker 1: on in those states will make them untouchable for the
Speaker 1: next generation. We will not be one of those states.
Speaker 1: And now I'm fearful that Arizona and Georgia are getting
Speaker 1: more like those three swing states than Ohio and Florida,
Speaker 1: which have been made more red.
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