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Speaker 3: the United States Army. I'm gonna read his bio real

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Speaker 3: US Army Green Beret and Chief Warrant Officer. He has

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Speaker 3: been involved in numerous high stake missions, including the infamous

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Speaker 3: company that saw nearly eighty percent of all combat. Steiner's

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Speaker 3: experiences in combat have been featured in acclaimed documentary such

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Speaker 3: as Ristreppo or Corngall. Despite being shot in the head

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Speaker 3: during his deployment during this deployment, he survived and has

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Speaker 3: since completed multiple missions to the Middle East, Central America,

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Speaker 3: South America with US Special Operations teams. His military career

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Speaker 3: has been distinguished by numerous awards, including two Purple Hearts,

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Speaker 3: three Bronze Stars, as well as the RCOM Army Accommodation

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Speaker 3: Medal with v device. Steiner's expertise in managing teams and

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Kyle, Thanks, brother, happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: I am happy to have you on board. Now. I

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Speaker 3: I've seen Rastreppo, right, the documentary or Streppo just a

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Speaker 3: jump been to that, you know. I saw that title

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Speaker 3: and I watched the whole thing. It's very eye opening

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Speaker 3: about what went on. It reminds me of the Lord

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Speaker 3: of the Flies. There's a novel called Lord of the

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Speaker 3: Flies where you have a bunch of kids who are

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Speaker 3: plane crashed on a deserted island, and it's like, who

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Speaker 3: put you in charge? Well, you guys seem to at

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Speaker 3: least keep the in charge intact with your chain of command,

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Speaker 3: you know. Can I ask you something? Were you a

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Speaker 3: part is it one hundred and seventy third? Is that

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Speaker 3: who you were a part of at Ristreppa? What unit

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Speaker 3: were you with with us at Restreppa?

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Speaker 4: At that time in the war, they were starting to

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Speaker 4: So I was at a company second Latune, second of

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Speaker 3: The one seventy third. And that's out of Aviano, right Italy.

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Speaker 1: I was an eleven Bravo. That was an eleven.

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Speaker 3: Eleven Bravo just all infantry, yep. So no no Ford

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Speaker 3: They're like, we're just gonna park here, Okay, we got

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Speaker 3: They're coming through and you're saying a lot of acronyms,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anything you see above your head, and like depending

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Speaker 4: But we were dropping all the artillery one five fives

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Speaker 4: And we just hijacked their areas, which they had like

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Speaker 1: I think we had fourteen and one day in that month.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we were just getting rocks non stop because

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Speaker 4: It's just like I describe it as Lord of the

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Speaker 4: Then they never came, you know, so we just sat

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Speaker 4: we just you know, I mean, we went like eighty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, just getting it dropped off to you. Did

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Speaker 3: they ever drop anything like other than mrs to you?

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Speaker 3: Like anybody's like yo, here. Man, here's some like, you know,

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Speaker 3: some butterfingers or something. Man, keep you guys going.

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Speaker 1: Every now and again, the pilots would.

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Speaker 4: It was funny because the pilots would for Thanksgiving, they

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Speaker 4: They had the sling load with the official stuff that

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Speaker 4: out trash bags and stuff that they had gotten that

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Speaker 4: they would they would kind of throw us to your

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Speaker 4: little lickys and chewies. But like the one time the

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Speaker 4: dude gave us a boxer like hot sauces for uh

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Speaker 4: for for the mrs. And we were so pumped. We're like,

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Speaker 4: we got like three hot sauces. We like, we make

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Speaker 3: wants some green break, No problem, right, let me go

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Speaker 3: so Q course his qualification course, SERE his survival, evasion,

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Speaker 3: Know, has no kidding.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like I feel like, man, they take

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Speaker 1: Me, and I was like, Manna, they're gonna just swag me.

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Speaker 3: Oh bro, yeah, because now you're like Hollywood. You're not

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Speaker 4: And when I went through, it was Banded Brothers and

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Speaker 3: Great, So I am sitting with the one and only

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Speaker 1: Saw when I was invistryman and he knew me. He

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Speaker 1: had become a cadre an instructor in the course.

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Speaker 4: And he saw me and he says, he says hey,

436
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Speaker 4: And I was like hey, man, and he was like,

437
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Speaker 4: do you want to be in French.

438
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Speaker 1: I was like no, you know, I picked Spanish. He

439
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Speaker 1: was like, hold on a minute.

440
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Speaker 4: So he went and grabbed some random dude in Spanish

441
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Speaker 4: and moved him to French and moved me over to Spanish.

442
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Speaker 4: There's a poor guy in Africa right now that it's

443
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Speaker 4: my fault.

444
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, man, oh just know that dude,

445
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 3: that's like, you know, he's just literally he had the

446
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Speaker 3: power to swap you out at that point. Dude.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just kind of looked around.

448
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Speaker 4: He looked at like the length of the lines and

449
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Speaker 4: was like, man to put him in French and put

450
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Speaker 4: you back in Spanish. And I ended up in that line,

451
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Speaker 4: walked up and said my name, like I'm supposed to

452
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Speaker 4: be here, and they were like all right, but yeah,

453
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Speaker 4: I was in eighteen Bravo.

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Speaker 1: Really cool.

455
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Speaker 3: Course.

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Speaker 4: I love being an eighteen Bravo And I was that

457
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Speaker 4: for six seven years, and then I went to be

458
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Speaker 4: an eighteen Fox, the intelligence sergeant, which you have to

459
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Speaker 4: get after you've done a certain amount of time as

460
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Speaker 4: one of the four core Moss and then so I

461
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Speaker 4: became a Fox, did that for a couple of years.

462
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Speaker 4: I made E eight, and but by that time I

463
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Speaker 4: had I had acted as a team sargeant Operation Stargeant

464
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Speaker 4: for a little over half a year, and but I

465
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Speaker 4: had I had submitted my warn officer packet prior to

466
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Speaker 4: the board results for E eight, not thinking I didn't

467
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Speaker 4: make it, just knowing I wanted to on a team.

468
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Speaker 1: When you go warrant, you delay the paperwork side of

469
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Speaker 1: the job for another six years or so. Yeah, fast

470
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Speaker 1: rope and you're back doing it with the boys.

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Speaker 4: You're a little slower one of my once I became

472
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Speaker 4: a warrant officer later on down the road and people

473
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Speaker 4: knew who I was. I been grouped for, you know,

474
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Speaker 4: fifteen years. They told me that I was like the

475
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Speaker 4: Brett Farv of the team, but like the Brett Vikings era, like, yeah,

476
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Speaker 4: he's still miraculous, but he's not as fast as he

477
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Speaker 4: once was.

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Speaker 1: And every now and again I'll throw a pick, and

479
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well whatever.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'll take it, like all that, all

481
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Speaker 3: o that, Because did you go in as a chief

482
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Speaker 3: war as a warrant one and then just climb your

483
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Speaker 3: way up to three or chief four or five? What'd

484
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Speaker 3: you get.

485
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Speaker 1: To right now?

486
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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 1: So I went in as a one.

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Speaker 4: Yet now they have now they have a delayed entry

489
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Speaker 4: where because you can't go to SF warrant without a

490
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Speaker 4: certain amount of time on a team, certain amount experience,

491
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Speaker 4: they have a way for you to get too right

492
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Speaker 4: off the bat that takes away two years of your

493
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Speaker 4: team time, so now only.

494
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Speaker 1: Four years additional team time.

495
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Speaker 4: Sure I went through right at the beginning of COVID,

496
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Speaker 4: so like they had the memorandum to give us two

497
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Speaker 4: right off the bat, I would have qualified, but it

498
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Speaker 4: just never got signed.

499
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Speaker 1: Nobody came to work for like six months.

500
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Speaker 3: So right, it was COVID, Dude, everybody's like, wear your mask,

501
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna get shot out by bullets.

502
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bien was a ghost town man when because I

503
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Speaker 4: was in the workforce when they shut it down, and

504
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Speaker 4: like it was eerie, man.

505
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Speaker 1: No courses were happening, nobody was going to work.

506
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Speaker 4: You can see like tumble weeds bowling across the roads,

507
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Speaker 4: but the warrant officer course for SF still went to work.

508
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Speaker 1: It was like only us just walking around.

509
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Speaker 3: You're like, why am I not essential? You're like, am

510
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Speaker 3: I not an essential person to have to like, oh

511
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Speaker 3: wait wait wait not essential? Like me too, man, I

512
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Speaker 3: have a It was the weirdest time because I had

513
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Speaker 3: two tactical stores that were operating during COVID and everything

514
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Speaker 3: shut down. But they said only essential businesses can operate.

515
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Speaker 3: And we sold like ballistic goggles, so a lot of

516
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Speaker 3: surgeons and everybody were coming in to get these goggles

517
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Speaker 3: for surgery, and like everybody's buying them from us. So

518
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Speaker 3: we got to stay open. And one time I had

519
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Speaker 3: the fire department come in. I'm like, oh, they're gonna

520
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: shut us down. Okay, I get to go home now, right.

521
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Speaker 3: They're like, no, Rad, don't ever close. Don't you ever

522
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Speaker 3: ever close. I'm here picking up Amma for my kids.

523
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Speaker 3: Don't you ever close? And I'm like, I just want

524
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Speaker 3: to be home for three weeks too, you know, but

525
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Speaker 3: you know, and driving on the freeway speaking to Fort Bragg.

526
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Speaker 3: Driving on I fifteen, I was the only like car

527
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Speaker 3: driving to work up north. I just don't know how

528
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Speaker 3: to explain that. It was almost like when President Obama

529
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Speaker 3: flew into Utah, the freeway was completely empty and I

530
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Speaker 3: was like the last car that was like making it

531
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Speaker 3: through the motorcade security detail or whatever, and it was

532
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Speaker 3: empty like that. I don't know how to explain the

533
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Speaker 3: barrenness unless you live through this, you know. So if

534
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Speaker 3: you live through COVID and you knew it was barren,

535
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Speaker 3: imagine tumbleweeds flying across a base where you have people

536
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Speaker 3: drilling and marching and moving and just complete all the

537
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Speaker 3: ants stopped.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I acquainted to I am legend like we's just

539
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Speaker 1: walking down the road.

540
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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like Vanilla Sky when Tom Cruise is

541
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: running down Times Square and he's looking around like where

542
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: is everybody? That was real that actually happened in COVID. Dude,

543
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: it's like no one's around, bro. So now we're COVID,

544
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: you know, stressed in our lives, and you're now going

545
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Speaker 3: through your warrant course and uh, you're already tapped up

546
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: as an SF guy. You just don't want to be

547
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Speaker 3: put behind a desk. I knew a lot of guys

548
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Speaker 3: in my dad's unit. One guy he retired, but they're

549
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Speaker 3: like six months later, they're like, why is he still

550
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Speaker 3: shuffling up on the team to jump someone just brought up?

551
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: Didn't didn't he retire? And so they had to go

552
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Speaker 3: up to Scottie and say, hey, you retired like six

553
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Speaker 3: months ago or seven months ago, and he's like, ah, guys,

554
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm just guys loopholes. Man.

555
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Speaker 4: They've done good at closing him, But there used to

556
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Speaker 4: be loopholes for dudes to like not get jump master

557
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: school so that they could just never ascend but just

558
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Speaker 4: stay at this position of always being operational.

559
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Speaker 1: And they've Army is.

560
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Speaker 4: Kind of caught onto that stuff. So you really got

561
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Speaker 4: to play your cards right. And I love to look

562
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: at myself for an example. It's one of my few

563
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 4: bragging points that I'll say myself because I never left

564
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: to be an instructor. I stayed operational the entire time,

565
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Speaker 4: So I have like one hundred and seventy some months

566
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Speaker 4: operational total.

567
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Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah.

568
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: I was able to change jobs, change a teams just

569
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Speaker 4: at the right time where they're like, oh, he's new now,

570
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 4: so we can't give him up for two or three years.

571
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Speaker 1: And I would just keep doing that to try along

572
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Speaker 1: my time, right.

573
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Speaker 3: Because you liked what you did and you wanted to

574
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Speaker 3: stay in that system of it. And again next thing

575
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: you know, you're like, oh, that's the outpost up there.

576
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Speaker 3: Well we'll check on it later. You don't want to

577
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: be that guy.

578
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny because I just wanted to

579
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: hang out with the homies. You know what my life

580
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: star my Army career started as, and what it ended

581
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 4: as is me just wanting to be with the boys

582
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Speaker 4: and do do cool stuff, you know, And that's that's

583
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Speaker 4: what I ended up doing.

584
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Speaker 3: Are you in a band? Are you in a band?

585
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: Are you a musician at all? Because you seem like

586
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Speaker 3: a Rocks are No. No, dude, I'm not saying it's

587
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: the tats or the slick back hair or the black shirt.

588
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: Let's see what does that shirt say? It says operation

589
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: operator mindset? Is that what it says?

590
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

591
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: What you repon operator mindset? What's going on there?

592
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: It's it's my business.

593
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: It's I've been starting to do these things where I'm

594
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Speaker 4: doing like leadership retreats for middle management and C suite

595
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: corporate executives. But unlike most of these that you see

596
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Speaker 4: where it's just like, oh, come out and play war

597
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: or come out and do this, we're we're I'm putting

598
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 4: them in so like an air software, right, we run

599
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: after the flat air software where I give a little

600
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Speaker 4: bit of a leadership class to some of these guys

601
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: that are not getting the most other employees. And what

602
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 4: I do is I put them in team leader and

603
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: squad leader positions much like ranger school, and then I

604
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: have them maneuver people, and now they can see the

605
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: clarity of their guidance.

606
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Speaker 1: Right, Your words mean something.

607
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 4: You know, you've ever seen that old thing where you

608
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: have a guy kind of stand up and explain without

609
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: showing how to make a paper airplane to a class

610
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: of ten people, and you come up with ten different

611
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 4: paper airplanes because your words matter. So I kind of

612
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: go through drills like that, where I do different things.

613
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: I put them a little bit of hardship. But again,

614
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: it's not like a buds type thing where I'm smoking

615
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 4: these these businessmen at all. It's just say, man, wellness

616
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: is important. We gotta we gotta have clarity of mine.

617
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 4: We sit around the fire, you know, we smoke some

618
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: cigars and have some whiskey and we talk about things.

619
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Speaker 1: But mostly it's trying to get them to see things

620
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: from their employees' point of view.

621
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Speaker 4: I also do leadership consultations with with just them individually,

622
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: and we'll go through picking up the slack for people.

623
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: So I'll do range drills, actual live range rules where

624
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, you know, his gun goes down, what

625
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: are you going to do? You got to pick up fire? Right,

626
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: We're just talking guns now. It's just basic differenttry tactics.

627
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: But you know, the range doesn't lie. So if you

628
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: freeze up there, you know, how are you doing in

629
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 4: the boardroom?

630
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: Right?

631
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: So I equate military leadership and teamwork application to a

632
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: business setting so they can kind of see where they

633
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: where they're at under stressed and under fire, real stress

634
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: because the boardroom is not stressful compared to you know combat,

635
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: and you're just getting hit with airsoft guns in this

636
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: but that's.

637
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: Not you know, the mindset is you don't want to

638
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: get hit by said airsoft gun, right, I do this

639
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: all the time. This is my livelihood of doing kind

640
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: of the same thing you're talking about. In fact, within

641
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: my team that runs the operations, we're built as like

642
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: a ODA. We're built as a twelve man team and

643
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: up to thirty six, so we have a little bit

644
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: of a rank structure, and there's different people on the

645
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: team that do different things. But the point is that

646
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: that at the end of the day, they're all what

647
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: we considered rtos. My guys are all radio telephone operators.

648
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: So I'll take one guy and bet him with five

649
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: or six guys that are you know, novice, and then

650
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: I'll take another guy and the bet him with the

651
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 3: other six guys, and we're all talking to each other, right,

652
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: and they're working the guys, but the whole time he's

653
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: observing the leadership of that team, making sure that he's

654
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: staying on the course of the grid and the map

655
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: and you know, whatever we have. We make a map

656
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: for the land nap based off of battleship, so you

657
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: have ABCDEFG one two, three, four, five sixty seven right,

658
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: and I'll be like, hey, yo, my guys haven't had

659
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: any contact for the last twelve minutes. Can we move

660
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: to hotel too. He's like, well, I'm at India too,

661
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: so let's just meet. So they start moving into Hotel India.

662
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, you just kind of guide the

663
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: team leader. You're like, sir, I think we should probably

664
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 3: move over to this area. Intel just came through. And

665
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: however you want to do that, I'm going to fall

666
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: back into the guys and fight with you. And so

667
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 3: my whole goal is just to rto him to make

668
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: sure that he can lead their direction correctly and you know,

669
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: get it done. That's just what we do. I love

670
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: that you utilize it as well. One of the things

671
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: that my dad, former Greenbery guy, used to say, but

672
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: when I started my business was you know Aaron, Yes,

673
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Erin is my given name, rad is my last name.

674
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: So he's like, Erin, I want you to know that

675
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: what you're doing is something that we've always needed on

676
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: the teams. I'm like, well, how Dad, He's like, well,

677
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: we would go out and do a stress test for

678
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: like seventy two hours and going up and down the

679
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: mountains of Utah looking for waypoints. And at the beginning

680
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: of that, we're always told to expect contact. He's like,

681
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: so here we are, get it up, all ready to

682
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 3: do our Joe Live. We have our everything we need,

683
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: we're blanks, everything's ready to go. And they're moving out

684
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: and they go up a hill and at the same

685
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: top of the hill is like number three, but they

686
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: can't touch it. They have to go back down to

687
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: two and then go back to three. And then at

688
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: the end of the whole stress test, there's a dude

689
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: stoking a fire and he's just like, you're good, and

690
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: he's like, where's this contact at where's this contact that

691
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: we all just like grew up expecting in our lives

692
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: as a Green Beret, you know. And he's like, that's

693
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: where Airsoft would come in to, you know, be that contact.

694
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: And today I have used that with the guys out

695
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: at the Camp Williams and whatnot as opt force. So

696
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: to see from twenty years ago, Dad saying, hey, this

697
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: is a good idea. This is how you should implement

698
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: it to how do I find my way into working

699
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: with SF guys while being not s F guy Okay,

700
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: it's interesting how that life just kind of blended together.

701
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: And I'm grateful and thankful to the nineteenth Group. I

702
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: where my Dad's ring everywhere I go. Ever since he's passed.

703
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: You know, my mom gave it to me as a gift.

704
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: He died right before my birth day and three days

705
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: later she's like, here, I want you to have this,

706
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: and I've worn it every day since twenty thirteen. Is

707
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: he was married to it, so it's on my right hand.

708
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: He was married to it on his left, so it

709
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: just rocks here. But you know, I just always look

710
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: down and I see those three you know, lightning bolts

711
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: that crossed the sword on the crest of your patch,

712
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: the Special Forces arrowhead, and I just know Sea Aaron Land,

713
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: and I just know that you guys are just the

714
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: best of the best of the best with honors. Okay,

715
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I'm not trying to get teary eyed,

716
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: but it's real hard for me not to think about

717
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: my father growing up in that life. And when I

718
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: see guys like you or my close friends that are

719
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: dressed up in their full class a's I just and

720
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: and if I see a blue cord on you I'm like,

721
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: are you dad, Dad? I'm like, is that my dad?

722
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 3: Are you back? It's just something solemn about that uniform

723
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: that you guys would wear, in the shiny boots of

724
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: those jump boots that he would wear. And you know,

725
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: we'd go to the VA ceremonies for the veterans on

726
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: November eleventh around town and he'd be in his gear

727
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: and all these people would just clamor over to him

728
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: and like just like want to talk to him. And

729
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, day, this is my dad. What do you guys?

730
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: What you guys all surround my dad about? You know?

731
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: But you know I get it today and I just

732
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: want to say, you know, thank you for going through

733
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: that hard work of where you're at now. You know

734
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: you're still all those things built out inside, but now

735
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: you're just going to take that into a direction. That

736
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: is what I call cocoons. Right. We cocoon ourselves every

737
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: two years or so and come out with new colorful

738
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: wings of butterflies. You know. So it's like whatever cocooning

739
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: you've done and all these different wings that you've sprouted,

740
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: and now today you know, you're working with businesses, you're

741
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: trying to create successful you know leaders still still, you

742
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: know that's your that. I don't know how you're gonna

743
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: get away from them. That's why are you in a band?

744
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, is there anything else you do besides grow people?

745
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: No, man, I love I love help plan and mentoring

746
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: dudes like dad, because you got to think about it.

747
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: You know, the military, the US military is the most

748
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: successful for relation who ever exists on planet Earth, you know,

749
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: I mean, we know how to lead people in the

750
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: most stressful situations. Ranger School is one big leadership school.

751
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: People like to think it's just like this toughness school

752
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: and it sucks, lose a lot of weight and you

753
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: don't sleep very much.

754
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: But the point of it is, can you motivate thirty

755
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: guys that are starving and sleep divived to accomplish a

756
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: goal to work together while they're falling asleep, while they're

757
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: just their stomach is grumbling, they are hallucinating, they're so

758
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: sleep to five different things, you know, the hallucination stories

759
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: of Ranger School wazoo. So can you motivate them to

760
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: pull the best out of themselves when it matters? And

761
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: you take those lessons and you input it into the

762
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: settings in the civilian world and it just it compounds exponentially.

763
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: It's really really something that something to see.

764
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: It really is, it really is. I mean, did you

765
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 3: ever get Halo qualified as a jump airborne guy? Did

766
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: you ever jump out with square shoots and whatnot? You

767
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: did all that Halo jump Master? Yeah? Did you ever

768
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: have any close calls doing that? Yeah? I did.

769
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: I had a close call.

770
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: It was we were doing we were doing a jump

771
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: and it was a full night wall loocker jump, so oxygen,

772
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: the mask, the night vision, the rock, the web, the rifle, everything,

773
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: and we were having we were getting graded and I

774
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: don't know what happened, but I had a guy that

775
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: was tracking me and he didn't have anything on. He

776
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: was a civilian guy from a company up in Canada,

777
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Flight one. They're like professional skydiver. So we have him

778
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: come in and watch us in the air, see how

779
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: we're doing. And I jumped out hit the blast, and

780
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that the bolt on my oxygen mask

781
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: had been loose. So it's got a snap that you

782
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 4: snap in, but then you snap it into some some

783
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: strappees that are bolted on your helmet. I did not

784
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: realize that it was loose, so as soon as I

785
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: hit wind, it came undone and it started slapping me

786
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 4: in the face with the wind and it made my

787
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: nose bleed. So this I'm in, I'm in pitch dark,

788
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: but I could see the red blood kind of go

789
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: up my goggles and I was like, oh man, So

790
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm trying to wipe it away and flying and I'm

791
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 4: bringing my hands and I'm starting to like wobble and stuff.

792
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: And I realized that I go to check my altitude

793
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: on my altimeter and my mask hit. We have a

794
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: tiny chem white that's really really small, and there's just

795
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: a it's still in this package with a square cut

796
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: in it. You crack it so it just lets out

797
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of light to see your altitude that

798
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: had broken. But now I'm looking at my altimeter and

799
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: I've got green keem light like, so I can't see

800
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: my altitude.

801
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I can't see through my goggles.

802
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: And I kind of look over and just see a

803
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: glimpse of the guy tracking me, and he was just

804
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: like shaking his head and he was like pointing to

805
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: like get away from everybody.

806
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: So I like tracked away as far as I could

807
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: and pop my.

808
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: Shoot and just came down completely blind, blood and chem

809
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: white juice everywhere.

810
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: And like I land and that and that guy came

811
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: back behind me and he was like that was that

812
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: was wild man. That was close. And I was like,

813
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what's going on.

814
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: It's funny because the riggers were all concerned with the

815
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: parachute because the chem white juice is toxic and it

816
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: can like eat through it. So they're like, we need

817
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: to get into the washing machine. And I was like,

818
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: still like all messed up, Like come on, man, help

819
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: me out.

820
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: Put me in the Washington You need the washing machine, bro,

821
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 3: you like, put me in the washing machine. And that

822
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: chem light juice. We used to crack those open all

823
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: the time and throw them all over us and walk

824
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: in the movie go camping and look like Predator got

825
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: us and whatnot. I mean it's that green juice from

826
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: the movie Predator. If you ever saw the predator get

827
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: shot and he leaves that green juice on a leaf,

828
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: that's the chem light.

829
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: It's really covered up. My altitude couldn't see through. They

830
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: were bloody.

831
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: I was like, this is oh my gosh.

832
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: It was terrifying.

833
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: I was like, I because you don't want to run

834
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: into anybody, You're typically looking down, looking up waiting to

835
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: see and I'm like, man, I don't want to like

836
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: smash into anybody on any either side of the pipe.

837
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 4: So I tracked way away and just pop my shoes

838
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: and was just like looking around for strobe lights infrared

839
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: strobe lights, hoping I didn't run into somebody.

840
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: And the guy was able to see you like having

841
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: these issues while he was writing down with you, uh

842
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: you know, tracking you as you said, and he was

843
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: just like, get away. So I mean, did you have

844
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: nods on? Is that did you jump with nods on?

845
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: Or somebody jump with them kind of open a little

846
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: bit so they're about right here so you can kind

847
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: of see below and if you need to, you can

848
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: just kind of look up or move a little bit.

849
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: So I had him on, but I was I was

850
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: just kind of looking at him.

851
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: I remember popping one down to see but I still

852
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: had blood everywhere, and I could just see him.

853
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: This is the signal for like track away, So he

854
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: was like, hey, just track away.

855
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: So you kind of get into like a knife position

856
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: and you track as far as you can't away from

857
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: what you called the stack and the stack of dudes

858
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: that are coming down to the line, you know, like

859
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: answer the rope.

860
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

861
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: He was just like track away because I can't see

862
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: behind me.

863
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 4: I can't see anything, and I don't know what's gonna

864
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 4: happen when I'm to play this shoot.

865
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: So that was my really really close call.

866
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's not really dude, Like he's like, just

867
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: get away from us. Yeah.

868
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: I had a line wants too in a foreign country.

869
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: I had a static line jump in a foreign country,

870
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: and they, you know, they briefed us and they're like, hey,

871
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: just so you know, you're jumping into a pasture, so

872
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna have barbed wire fence, uh, kind of separating

873
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: the animals.

874
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: And then you have these these.

875
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 4: Cows here and there, and I don't know what it

876
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: was as a stack line jump, but they also didn't

877
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: tell us that there was a tire fire out there.

878
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: So I'm like going and I looked down and I

879
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: can see this huge group of steer, like the big

880
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 4: ones with the horns, and I was like, oh man,

881
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to catch one of those of the butt.

882
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: So like I'm moving around and then I can see

883
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: the fence starting to come into play. I'm like Okay,

884
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: there's barbed wire fence, but those cows kept following right

885
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: underneath me. So as I moved, they were just this

886
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: huge herd of like forty cows. I was like, man,

887
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: So as soon as I got close within like one

888
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 4: hundred and two hundred feet, I was like, I'm gonna

889
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: hit these cows and take one of these horns, you know, right.

890
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 4: So I like flared hard and went backwards and actually

891
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: landed in a tire fire. So like I'm on top

892
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: of the tires as they're on fire, and I was

893
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: like rolling off of it.

894
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. The riggers were running out to get the canopy

895
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: because that's up in flames.

896
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: Oh mg, dude, Yeah, that's crazy. A tire fire. That's

897
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: not good.

898
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: No, And you know, they were like, well, why did

899
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: you land on the tin of fire? I was like

900
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 4: it was between that the barbed wire and the cows,

901
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: all right, Like I did my best.

902
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, And it's not like you could sit there

903
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: and pull the cords down. I mean a ecstatic line. Shoot,

904
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: it's kind of hard to guide, isn't it.

905
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: You have to like kind of stuff and turns like this.

906
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: So I was like, hey, I just didn't knew I

907
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: didn't want to hit a barbier because that would have

908
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: split me, and I knew I didn't want to hit

909
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: a cow, so like the work, the best of the

910
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: three options was the fire.

911
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: And did you were you injured during that jump? Did

912
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: you get burned?

913
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: I mean it was like the lightest jump ever because

914
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: I hit this like squishy touch like old like old tires,

915
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: and it like bounced and it's a couple of tires

916
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: coming after me. You know, I don't think I might

917
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 4: have sensed my sleeves a little bit.

918
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh that was wild.

919
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh dude, So okay, So you've been shot, You've been

920
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: bounced off a tire fire, you've been knocked out by

921
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: your oxygen mask on a halo deployment, slapping in the

922
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: face and bloodying you up and uh and and this

923
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: is the life that you love? Yeah, yeah, I dude,

924
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: that's what's up. That's what it takes combat diver.

925
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 4: So I like that's that's like one of my huge

926
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: biggest points of pride is that I'm an Army combat diver.

927
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: And you know, past that school at kind of an

928
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: old age after I went warrant and uh yeah, yeah,

929
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: I love it.

930
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I love doing all this stuff.

931
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: You know, I told my I was talking to my

932
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: bring up my dad again, right, I love his valor.

933
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: I love my father. And he was always you know,

934
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: chasing one thing. You know, there's always someone in green

935
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: beret and they're badass, but there's always someone in green

936
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 3: berets who's like better and another bigger dude on the block, Debo,

937
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: there's another dude on the block that's bigger than you.

938
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: In the teams, You're like, bro, you've got And I

939
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: was like, Dad, what what what badge? Like? Did you

940
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: not get that you wanted? He's like combat diver. He

941
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: thought that if he had that little scuba guy on

942
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: his hit. You know, he loved to dive too, so

943
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: he was doing it his whole life. He just never

944
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: got a chance. His theater of operation was like the

945
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: Philippines and Thailand and Southeast Asia, the whole Pacific. You know,

946
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: that was it, and he just never got that combat diver.

947
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: So he's like, yeah, there's always someone out there that

948
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: has something a little bit more than you out there,

949
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: so never think that you're always the best, because there's

950
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: someone out there that's got a little more. And I

951
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: was like, what what do they got that you don't got?

952
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: He's like combat diver badge. Yeah.

953
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: I wanted it so bad, you know, I had.

954
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: I became a sniper early on, and then I went

955
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: to the Crift companies, which are like crisis response companies,

956
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: so it's all hostage rescue and direct action stuff. And

957
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: then I became a Halo and actually was on a

958
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: Rekie team because Halo and Sneiper kind of go.

959
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: Go hand in hand.

960
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: And I had always wanted to be a diver.

961
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: I had gone to pre dive the prep course right

962
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: when I became a Green Beret and something happened with

963
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: Manning and I wasn't able to finish, and they were like, hey,

964
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 4: you go ahead and uh, you know, go to this

965
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: team forget dive for now.

966
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: And I was like all right.

967
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 4: And then I had I had a really good friend

968
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: who died in the thirteen trip and he was a diver,

969
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: and you know, I remember them giving out hats and

970
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: bracelets for him and it had a dive bubble on it.

971
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: I remember asking for one, like, hey, can I get

972
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: a memorial hat for it? Was Alex Myola and I

973
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: kind of they were like, eh, you know, it's kind

974
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 4: of for the divers. You know, he was a diver

975
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: and that me and I was like, oh, hell.

976
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: No, you're like yeah, I'll just saying like those little yeah.

977
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: I got mad.

978
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: And then and then years later when I went to

979
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: the war course, I was having a brief with the

980
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 4: command chief one officer, and he was like, well, what

981
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: do you want to do?

982
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: Cans like I kind of want to go back to combat.

983
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 4: He's like, well, the only teams that are going to

984
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: combat that don't have a one officer or dive teams.

985
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: He's like, would you be willing to go to dive school.

986
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: I was thirty six at the time, and I was like, yeah,

987
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: I'll go. I went to dive school with thirty seven

988
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: other Green Berets and only fourteen of us passed.

989
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Like that school is terrible. It sucks so.

990
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: Bad, but you got the bubble.

991
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the bubble.

992
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: It's funny because I didn't win any events. I was

993
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 4: like middle of the pack, to the back of all events,

994
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: just barely making it. And then your final event, they

995
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: just drive you out in this boat like way out

996
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: there and they're like, hey, we want to let you

997
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 4: know that you guys all pass. But your last thing

998
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 4: is a free open swim. Your dive bubbles are on

999
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: the shore, and I won that and they're like, this

1000
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: is the only thing you want? Is like, you know

1001
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 4: how long I've wanted this. I'm like, my old ass

1002
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: is like, just get in the surf trying to get

1003
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: to this thing. And they had a bud of beer

1004
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: and our bubbles were on eat on a can of beer,

1005
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: and I was like, this is the greatest feeling ever.

1006
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: It is one of my greatest accomplishments. My point surprise

1007
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: that I was able to pass that.

1008
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: You know, very proud of you for doing such a

1009
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 3: hard course and going through that and getting that bubble.

1010
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 3: And you probably went and got the hat and walked

1011
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: back to that dude and said, well suth bro.

1012
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hey, I do a sheriff now and we

1013
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: talk about it. I'm like, you have no idea that

1014
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: the fire you lit under me when you said that.

1015
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: And I went and passed it, you know, and I

1016
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: crushed it. It's funny because you know, you have you

1017
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: have three chances at this test, and it's the test

1018
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: that gets everybody there, and the first one I blacked out,

1019
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: completely blacked out, woked up, woke up under the ambulance

1020
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: with oxygen. They're like, yeah, you went out, man, because

1021
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: I mean most people do go out at some point

1022
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: underwater and that's the scary part, like, hey, they have

1023
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: to come and revive you. So I went out, and

1024
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 4: I remember feeling so free after that, being like, okay,

1025
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 4: well this isn't that bad. Like I've already blacked out

1026
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: now I know what it's like and uh and if

1027
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: it works out, great and if it doesn't, I'll go

1028
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: back home and watch my sons play t ball.

1029
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: And it worked out, you know, and I was like, ah, I.

1030
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: Love that, dude. That makes me feel so good. I

1031
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: love that you chase your dreams and crush them right like.

1032
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: And I love that your girlfriend, now wife, if it

1033
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: is still now, is the one that helped really light

1034
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: your spark. Like you said the sheriff lit a fire

1035
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: to you. Well, she lit the bonfire under you. Bro.

1036
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: You're like, I gotta press this chick. She wants a

1037
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: green beret.

1038
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean I met her in Italy. She was studying.

1039
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 4: She went to Berkeley, and she was studying abroad and

1040
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: lived in Rome. And I met her at Florence right

1041
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: by the statue of David, you know, the famous statue.

1042
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: We met last and I was probably drinking with the

1043
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: buddies and we met and you know, years later when

1044
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: we were dating, you know, she saw me a green

1045
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: beery walked into the p X one time in Italy

1046
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 4: and we don't know what he's doing there because there's

1047
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 4: no Green Bay station in that area. You think he

1048
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 4: came down from tenth which was in Stutgart, Germany, and

1049
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: you could hear a pin drop. Everybody was like whoa

1050
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: And my now wife was like, why is his hat different?

1051
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: Was right, and we were just like looking at him,

1052
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: like he's at Sibarro getting like a piece of pizza

1053
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: and we're like, how cool he is? And then I

1054
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 4: explained it to her that night. I was like, it's

1055
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 4: something I wanted to do. I tried as I failed,

1056
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: and she was real hard on me. She was like,

1057
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: then go back, like you're going to take no for

1058
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 4: an answer, you know, just once and then leave it

1059
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: at that. I was like, all right, So I went

1060
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: back and just absolutely crushed it. Now I had already

1061
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: gone to Restrepo, so I had a lot of combat

1062
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: under my belt. I had it walking mountains, so the

1063
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: walks with the rucksack.

1064
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: Wasn't that hard. But years later, you know, she applied.

1065
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 4: I asked her if she wanted to do something more

1066
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: with her life after she got her undergrad and she's like, well,

1067
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: I took the law school exam and I was going

1068
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: to go to law school. I was like, why didn't

1069
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 4: you steady in the score as good as I wanted

1070
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: to and I flipped it background. I was like, oh yeah,

1071
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: oh well, what's up, Like, let's do this again, Let's

1072
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: crush it. She ended up taking it again and getting

1073
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 4: in the top one percent of the country. And then

1074
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: my wife attended and graduated Harvard Law School.

1075
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: So I was like, congratulations to her. Okay, women in

1076
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: stem bro, women in stem that's what we say at

1077
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: my house. Okay, my daughters, my wife powerful, they snowboard

1078
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 3: their hardcore. My daughter wants to be the president. You know.

1079
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: She speaks multiple language, just Chinese, you know. So it's

1080
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: like women in Stem dude, way to power that, yeah,

1081
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: you know.

1082
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 4: And the funny thing is is like she had been

1083
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: grew up in San Francisco area, her mom was a

1084
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: She's a first generation American. Her mom is German, came

1085
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 4: here on her own did everything, and you know when

1086
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: she got the letter for Harvard was the first one

1087
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: she got. She was like, oh, I got accepted to Harvard,

1088
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: and I was probably eating something. I was like I'm

1089
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: sorry what And I didn't know.

1090
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Harvard, Yeah, where she all applied.

1091
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: I was like Harvard.

1092
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: I was like the Harvard and she was like, yeah,

1093
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to go there. I

1094
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna stop you right there. I'm from

1095
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: a small town in Wisconsin. Harvard doesn't really exist to us.

1096
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: It's kind of like Hogwarts. It's just yeah, exactly, I'm

1097
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 4: not sure it's real. If you get into Harvard, you

1098
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: go to Harvard, like, She's like, well, I'll be away

1099
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: from you for you go to Harvard, Like that's you

1100
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: cannot pass that up.

1101
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: Come on, right, it's a deployment. You know. She handled

1102
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: you going away for a minute. You were probably like

1103
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: you can't handle me being gone. She's like yeah, go on, yeah,

1104
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: You're like, but wait, but wait, don't you need me

1105
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: next to you with the pillow and stuff. She's like,

1106
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: go on, go on now now with let me ask

1107
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: you something about your deployment. Something that I lived with

1108
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: with my dad was we I only moved twice. I

1109
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: moved from California as a young man to Utah for

1110
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: his station here, and then he went off and did

1111
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: all of the stuff as an s F guy. Right,

1112
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: so I got to grow my roots here. I didn't

1113
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: get really pulled out and go to different military school

1114
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 3: or military basis for school. Was that the same way

1115
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: with you where you pretty much this is home. Everybody

1116
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 3: gets to stay home, and then you went and did everything. Yeah.

1117
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, SF guys don't move a whole lot. And the

1118
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: reason for that is because we have to have continuity

1119
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: within the group. You know, like your your father he

1120
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 4: covered what was called Indo Pacom India Pacific Command. We

1121
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: covered South and Central Command down in South America and

1122
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 4: Central America sentim and each each Green Beret is part

1123
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: of a group that covers an area, so like you

1124
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: speak that language or a multitude of languages in order

1125
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: to cover that area more adequately. The regular Army PCs

1126
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: is people every three to four years because they want

1127
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 4: a transition of skills to sort of say, right, so

1128
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: this guy was here, he knows how this works. Let's

1129
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: put him over here in first I D so he

1130
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 4: can bring that knowledge from here to here, you know, And.

1131
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: That's how they do it. They don't do that with us.

1132
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: So Seventh Group used to be command stationed at Fort Bragg.

1133
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: I graduated and stayed at Fort Bragg from the Q course,

1134
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: and then Seventh Group writ large as a unit moved

1135
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: to Egland because Transcom was moving to Brag and they

1136
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: were just like two crowded. So when Seventh Group moved

1137
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 4: to Brag, I moved with them in early twenty eleven,

1138
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: and I was in Florida from that point until I

1139
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: bought my retirement home in Wisconsin.

1140
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Where I'm from.

1141
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: Nice. Let me guess Two Rivers. You're you moved into

1142
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Two Rivers right off the shore of Lake Michigan there, huh,

1143
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 3: and you go to I'm close to yeah yeah, yeah,

1144
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, you go to Sheboygan or like phil RoHS

1145
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: Burgers and like, uh you know, uh yeah yeah yeah.

1146
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: So my dad's from Two Rivers. He was born in

1147
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I think maybe Manitowaca is where he was

1148
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: maybe born. I don't know, yah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So

1149
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: I love I love me some Wisconsin cheese. I love

1150
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: me some you know, holy mackerel on the fridge, the magnet,

1151
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: my Grandpa had. You know, it's like macrol with holes

1152
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: all in it. Say, he was a fisherman right there

1153
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: off the you know Lake Michigan. He actually worked on reels,

1154
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: Like he was really good with like little screws and

1155
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: reels and making them all work. So crazy how he

1156
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: could live off of fixing reels back in the day,

1157
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: and today you got to have like four jobs to

1158
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: try to make rent. You know, times have changed, you know,

1159
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: Sweet little two rivers Manitowac, Milwaukee, Milliequake, dude, Yeah, I

1160
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 3: love that. I love that You're from Wisconsin. Bro. Yeah,

1161
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: my dad's was. I love it. I've been there a

1162
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: couple of times as a young man and got nothing

1163
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: but love for Wisconsin. Yeah.

1164
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: Man, we have a ton of acreage, kind of like

1165
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 4: a micro farm, and like it's where I wanted to

1166
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 4: raise my children, you know, and have open spaces.

1167
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1168
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 4: We got foxes, deer, coyotes on the property everywhere, so

1169
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: my kids can just run. We got two ponds, and

1170
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: it's really the serenity I've been looking for after twenty

1171
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: plus years in the military. Just kind of take a

1172
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: step back trying to get some chickens this spring. See

1173
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 4: what I can do that, you know, stuff like that.

1174
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. I love it. I'm

1175
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: sure whatever you do is going to be the best

1176
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: because you just strive for that and your smile delights

1177
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: the room. Okay, I don't know where you got shot

1178
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: at the head, but it looks good. Okay, I'm gonna

1179
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: tell you right now. I'm not sure. I'm like, looking

1180
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: at you, I'm like, where did it get about?

1181
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: No?

1182
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: The dimple in the chin? Is that what it is? No,

1183
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm looking for dimples. Where did you

1184
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: get struck at? When you got here?

1185
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Right in the bed of the head.

1186
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 4: So I got hit in the helmet right back here,

1187
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 4: and it kind of entered the layering of the kevlar

1188
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: and scooped around and then came out on this side.

1189
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: Wow. Are you rated out of the military or you're

1190
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: out now right? No?

1191
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: Official retirement date isn't until this summer.

1192
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 4: I'm almost called a so calm fellowship where I'm allowed

1193
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: to move my family home essentially and then work an

1194
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: internship kind of a skill bridge thing. So I've got

1195
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: something here with actually my family's gun range mission specific worldwide,

1196
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: and I'm just doing things there I'm learning the business

1197
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: side of it, but I'm also getting to shoot in

1198
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: my spare time and stuff like that, so it's pretty fun.

1199
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: So I got that in order to be able to

1200
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: move the family here, you know.

1201
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 3: And do you still wear the gear the uniform, still

1202
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: go to report in or anything or you're out.

1203
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: No, I'm not out, but I'm on like a one

1204
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty day sabbatical, so I don't I don't

1205
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: really have to just check in via phone. I just

1206
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: talked to him yesterday and they're like, hey, how's it going,

1207
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 4: And looks pretty good. And I get like an inventory

1208
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: sheet once a month on how it's going, what I'm learning,

1209
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: what I'm doing day to day.

1210
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: And I'm free and clear here and hopefully this lasts

1211
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: right up to my retirement date. It should be around

1212
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: May June.

1213
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: Is this a normal opportunity for SF guys to have

1214
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: to do this fellowship style transition from the military or

1215
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: is it for yeah, yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

1216
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean they have two versions of it.

1217
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 4: They have skill Bridge, which you were doing a conventional retirement,

1218
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 4: you can do the skill bridge, or that they have

1219
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: the fellowship and you have to get the business. You

1220
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: choose has to have a memorandum of understanding via SOCOM

1221
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: on like what they'll teach you. They won't pay you,

1222
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's unpaid intern You're there to learn something

1223
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: to help you continue your life after the military, and

1224
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: a ton of big businesses already have them.

1225
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: I had to set one up because this business didn't have.

1226
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: An understanding in place, But like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, all

1227
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: those places, they already have them. So guys are constantly

1228
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: going to those big things doing a six month internship

1229
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 4: at Amazon as a general manager or something like that.

1230
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: Wow, trying to learn that stuff.

1231
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: So they caught wind of having that implemented in their organization,

1232
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: so they can bring guys like you into their organization

1233
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: under that that fellowship or that that situation. So a

1234
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: business can then opt in to have it and then

1235
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: be accepted under the SOCOM guidelines. Is that what I'm understanding?

1236
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 4: And then they can yeah, and then they have that

1237
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 4: memory of understanding, so if anybody else wants to get

1238
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: into that kind of work or learn X, Y or Z,

1239
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 4: they can just fall in under that, get their signed

1240
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: and be like, yeah, this is an approved company, Like

1241
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 4: I want to do it with them, you know, I

1242
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: was offered to Amazon and Google and things like that,

1243
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: and I said, that doesn't really appeal to me. There's

1244
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: a bunch of private equity firms that teach you to

1245
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: kind of put you in general managersians and teach you

1246
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. And I wanted to come back

1247
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: home and kind of do some a little more down

1248
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: to earth. And that's that's how that's how I started

1249
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: with your mindset and different things with in conjunction with this.

1250
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: That's very cool and very outside the box thinking too.

1251
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: I see what you did there, Okay, so very cool,

1252
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: very cool. Yeah, I would, I would. I love you, dude.

1253
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: I think you're great. Kay. And and and you just

1254
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing. And I know I've had

1255
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: you on here for like almost an hour and just

1256
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 3: bsing and thank you for being open to talking to

1257
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 3: me about some of these things, and you know, smiling

1258
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: about it. And thanks for raising your hand in a

1259
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: ninety degree fashion several times to say you'll take one

1260
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 3: for the team, dude, seriously. And the blood and the

1261
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 3: chem light juice, I can only just like see it

1262
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: in a movie, bro. And and I hope there's something

1263
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: out there for you in Hollywood. Dude, because I mean,

1264
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: you should be like playing yourself, oh, or at least

1265
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: playing a rocker in a band. Dude, I could just

1266
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: see it, you know. You just give me this like, yeah,

1267
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: I love it, Dude, I love it. And you know,

1268
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 3: thanks to our buddy Mike Mutual who sent you my way. Dude,

1269
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: I think that you've been a classy person to talk to.

1270
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: I know, I just tip the snowflake on the tip

1271
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: of the iceberg with you, okay, But you know you're

1272
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: always a welcome addition back onto the show. If you

1273
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 3: ever say, hey, Rad, you know my operator mindset has

1274
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 3: blown up and this is what's going on with it,

1275
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: or this new thing just happened, or I got more

1276
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: things to talk about that I can talk about. You know,

1277
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm never here to have you out anything unless you

1278
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: want to. So if there's anything you ever want to

1279
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: talk about, just reach out to us. I'm sure my audience.

1280
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: You know, even if you're reaching one person right now,

1281
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 3: and it might be that guy who's in the teams

1282
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 3: and he might be listening to, like what's Rad talking

1283
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 3: about with this SF guy? They might know who you are.

1284
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: They're going to say, oh, I didn't know there was

1285
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 3: a fellowship program.

1286
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, you know I'd love to love Yeah,

1287
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed this for sure.

1288
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And is there any way that

1289
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 3: anybody can reach out to you at operator mindset if

1290
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: they have anything to offer you. Are you looking for

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Speaker 3: any additional you know, correspondence with vets that are in

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Speaker 3: the same field as you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I might operate different. Dot Com teaches

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Speaker 4: you to operate different. I do a men's coaching thing

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Speaker 4: mostly for civilians, to teach him how to operate in

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Speaker 4: our mindset and frame of minds. And I founded that

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Speaker 4: early on when I was coaching my sons in wrestling,

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Speaker 4: and you know, my sons were performing at a high

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Speaker 4: level and I heard a dad. I overheard a dad

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Speaker 4: say his son asked him like, why aren't we doing that?

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Speaker 4: And his son's like, well, you know, their dad's an operator.

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Speaker 4: It's different. And I remember hearing that. I mean, like,

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00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 4: it's not that different, though, man, like you can be

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Speaker 4: the example too. You can set an example for your

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00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 4: sons the same as us, Like, I'm no different than

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00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: you in that regard. It's a mindset, you know, that

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: allow us to push forward through uncomfortable times. Become comfortable

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00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 4: being uncomfortable, you know. So I kind of frame that

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Speaker 4: in the in the sense of making operate different. I

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00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: will teach men how to operate different. And that's my

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Speaker 4: passion too.

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Speaker 1: I love doing that.

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Speaker 4: I love like giving guys advice, giving father's advice who

1314
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: feel like they're stuck in a rut.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the kids, the kids aren't aren't living

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Speaker 1: up their expectations.

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Speaker 4: I always tell them, like, hey, man, if if you

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00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: look in the mirror and it's not a man that

1319
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 4: you would want your sons to turn exactly into, then

1320
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 4: you need to make the change.

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Speaker 1: Because he's watching more than he's listening to.

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that's true. That's way true. And I'm

1323
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Speaker 3: going to steal that and just use it more of

1324
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: what you just said in my life. I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: You know, we are leading by example. They watch our actions.

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00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 3: They see us. You know, you flip that car off

1327
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: in the road. They see it and they're like, oh,

1328
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Speaker 3: I'll flip that car off in the road. It's just like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I love that. Wait, wait, good, good, good

1330
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: snippet right there, right. If there's one thing you can

1331
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: do is just lead by example. I love that dude,

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Speaker 3: I love it.

1333
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: But I'm on Instagram at real Kyle Steiner and Facebook.

1334
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: I think that's real Kyle Steiner. Ye say that loudly?

1335
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because otherwise I would alter from Ohio State.

1336
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: Or I'm a basketball player from Wisconsin with my second dame.

1337
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: There's a dude out there with my name. I'm like,

1338
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: what's up? How come I can't have my Instagram account

1339
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 3: as my name? It's like this dude from your back,

1340
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, life goes on. I'm the real you know

1341
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Hey, And I love the fact that

1342
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: you coach. You know, I love the fact that you

1343
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 3: are that soccer coach I was talking about, right, I'm like,

1344
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: you guys are all in one. My dad's same thing baseball.

1345
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Speaker 3: Every all year long, he would train me for baseball.

1346
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 3: He drilled a hole through the baseball's axis, took a

1347
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: piece of red paracord, and then tied it through it

1348
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: with a knot and then a knot so he could

1349
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 3: swing it a baseball. And he would, and he would

1350
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: wear a gardening glove because every time I'd hit it,

1351
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: it would pull the rope out of his hand. So

1352
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 3: he'd get it going like seventy miles an hour because

1353
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: there was no one that could pitch that fast to me,

1354
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: and I didn't have a pitching machine anywhere. So he's like, well,

1355
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 3: if you're gonna hit fast balls, let me just so

1356
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: he'd swirl it like a helicopter and then I would

1357
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 3: just stand there and then it would just come right

1358
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Speaker 3: in front of my quack, in front of the plate,

1359
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Speaker 3: and I would just I'm just saying, I love you guys, dude,

1360
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 3: and I love your mantra and to free the oppressed,

1361
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: dale press, the lever, the whole thing. I love wearing

1362
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: my dad's ring and living under his shadow. And thank

1363
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Speaker 3: you for for being you and being on the show today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, brother, nice mind. Pleasure really was.

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Speaker 3: Really and I just want to thank you again. And

1366
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Speaker 3: you're always welcome back in. And if you want to

1367
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 3: learn more about Kyle, just google Kyle Steiner Army and

1368
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: you'll see his bio in all of the Internet. You

1369
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: can look up for Streppo. You know, he's got so

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00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: much going on and Operator mindset and Operate Operate Different

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Speaker 3: dot com. So check him out. Follow real Kyle Steiner

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Speaker 3: on Instagram and just add one more like to his

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Speaker 3: his picks and his comments and and if you want

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Speaker 3: to learn more, just click on the link down below

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Speaker 3: in whatever we've typed out and you can find all

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: that information here at soft reap dot com. And again,

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Speaker 3: big thanks on behalf of all of us at soft

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00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: rep to Kyle for joining the show today, so thank

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00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 3: you appreciate it. Yeah, and this is rad On, behalf

1380
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Speaker 3: of Kyle Steiner, saying peace.

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Speaker 2: You've been listening to self Red Ladia