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Speaker 4: mentioning this that somebody was rewarded in the NFL and

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Speaker 4: they deserve to be. And that's somebody was the head

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Speaker 4: coach and GM for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who yesterday

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Speaker 4: the Buccaneers announced multi year extensions for Todd Bowles and

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Speaker 4: Jason Light.

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Speaker 3: This is, in my.

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Speaker 4: Opinion, totally deserved, especially Jason Light who. Yeah, they won

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl with Tom Brady. But it is interesting

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Speaker 4: how the Patriots have completely unraveled. Yes, since Tom Brady left,

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Speaker 4: Yes they have. The Buccaneers have not only stayed afloat,

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Speaker 4: but surprisingly like they're the of all teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: only five teams have won more games than the Buccaneers

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Speaker 4: have since COVID.

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Speaker 3: Since twenty two.

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Speaker 1: They're surprisingly Yeah, Baker Mayfield era competitive, just consistent bowls competitive,

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Speaker 1: Top Bowls era competitive. Competitive. I mean you can anticipate.

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Speaker 1: Who would you expect to win that division?

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Speaker 3: The Bucks?

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Speaker 1: they boned us. Now who's the who's the next one?

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Speaker 1: Who's the next one up? It ain't gonna be Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, they ain't gonna be Carolina. Who else

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Speaker 3: Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Carolina, New Orleans Saints. It ain't gonna be the Saints.

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Speaker 1: It ain't gonna be Carolina, And it ain't gonna be

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Speaker 3: It ain't. It's just not.

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Speaker 1: So partially you could blame it due to the level

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Speaker 1: make no mistake about it. You take a Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: in a situation where it's like he doesn't get paid

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Speaker 1: a franchise after quarterbacks physics with Baker Mayfield playing at

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Speaker 1: that leads the way for your Tampa Bay Bucks team

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Speaker 1: was a big decision because he was somebody else's trash.

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Speaker 4: And not only was it somebody else's trash, it was

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Speaker 4: greatest of all time. And we've seen what's happened in

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Speaker 4: you look at Tampa and they've just been consistent. And look,

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Speaker 4: it's not like Todd Bowles is lighting it up as

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Speaker 4: I think he's three games over five hundred. But there

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Speaker 4: is something to be said for that consistency. And there's

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Speaker 4: do it home grown. And this was a stat that

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Speaker 4: it's been under the radar almost because look, Chris Godwin

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Speaker 4: off an injury. They've found a way to draft great

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Speaker 4: worked wonders there, completely revitalized his career, one of the

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Speaker 4: more underrated players in the NFL, underrated quarterbacks in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: And you look at Tampa and go, maybe they're not

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl elite team, but there is something to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just got bigger on the interior line,

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Speaker 1: They've done a really really solid job of dealing with

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Speaker 1: like they've built through the draft. It's like it's a

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Speaker 1: very very sneaky ascent, is what I would say. They

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Speaker 1: That's the reward of extensions to the head coach and

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Speaker 1: the GM. I just think this will be an interesting

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Speaker 1: now it's time. If Baker Mayfield is truly that that

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Speaker 3: You got you got shock? Is he going to be

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Speaker 3: And is it going to be Bryce Younger who is it.

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Speaker 4: In Carolina Knucks are by far and away the most

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Speaker 1: So again, I think this is one of those non

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Speaker 1: They could be their own victims of success, the level

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Speaker 1: that go? I think that's going to be what they're

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Speaker 1: do you do in the playoffs. If it's an early departure,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a loss of a season. And you

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Speaker 1: can't continue to look at the coaching staff and the

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Speaker 1: saying that this is a very well built team.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if we're going to be fair, they probably

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Speaker 4: should have beat Washington in that playoff game. There was

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Speaker 4: a miscue by the Bucks. There was I think a

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Speaker 4: that you know, get best football.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying they're not that far away. We're not

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Speaker 3: They just can't go backwards though.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, and that's I think that's the major

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Speaker 1: again that's why you reward the people with the type

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Speaker 1: of contracts extensions that that you did. But going into

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Speaker 1: they can be competitive outside of their division and then

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Speaker 1: and win those games and show that they are to

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Speaker 4: Now, it is, uh, it's game show time, all right?

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Speaker 4: So do we have any special game show music here?

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Speaker 4: Because of what we did mention this that since twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: since COVID when the Bucks won the Super Bowl, they

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Speaker 4: people that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have the sixth most

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Speaker 4: the question I have for you, LeVar Arrington, or some

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Speaker 3: Who are the five teams.

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Speaker 4: Ahead of the Bucks in most wins in the NFL

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Speaker 1: Most wins since twenty twenty? The Kansas City Chiefs that

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Speaker 4: When's the Steelers just below the Buccketeers?

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Speaker 1: Okay, twenty twenty, twenty twenty, the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 3: No, no, not the Lions. We're getting cold.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, we'll think about, you know, twenty. Who's

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Speaker 4: the forty No, no, even the forty nine ers. Who's

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Speaker 4: the benchmark of the NFL right now? If you have

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Speaker 3: Oh, I gotta throw Philly in there. Philly's the FA.

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Speaker 1: But I would have said the benchmark is Kansas City. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: One more one team left. And this might also be

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Speaker 4: a little surprising, but one team left, and if you noticed, how.

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Speaker 3: Is it Cincinnati? Now?

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Speaker 4: You see you see your executive PU the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 4: So the Green Bay Packers list, So the Chiefs, the Bills,

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Speaker 4: the Packers, the Ravens, the Eagles, and then the Bucks

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Speaker 1: Three, so outside of they don't count.

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Speaker 3: Damn that's crazy though.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't think a lot of people consider

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Speaker 4: I've always said this, Look, there's no guarantees that you're

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Speaker 4: going to win a Super Bowl. As we talked about.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Bucks probably should have won that game

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Speaker 4: just the playoffs. That's how it works, and you know

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Speaker 4: the rest is history. I will take my team being consistent,

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Speaker 4: Not quite sure, disappointment here, disappointment there. I think that's

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Speaker 4: The issue that everyone was talking about earlier this week,

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Speaker 6: many areas of the ability with AI to ingest all

437
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Speaker 6: video their player of every game of players played in

438
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Speaker 6: to see if you can detect there's some pattern just

439
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Speaker 6: like that we didn't realize that leads to an achilles injury.

440
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Speaker 6: Whether it's associated with calf injuries, we really don't know,

441
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Speaker 6: but we look we're taking it very seriously.

442
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Speaker 4: I mean, clearly you should be. I mean it impacted

443
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Speaker 4: your postseason. You lost three players, including one of the

444
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 4: Game seven, and so the discussion is now what needs

445
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: to happen in the NBA when.

446
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Speaker 3: It comes to the achilles issues.

447
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 4: And I just wandered this, maybe there is something to

448
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: the amount of work you're doing in the offseason. Maybe

449
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 4: there's something to that, because I just don't recall in

450
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Speaker 4: shoes that weren't as high tech, and courts in the

451
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: league that weren't as well built and put together like

452
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Speaker 4: they are now. I don't recall a lot of achilles

453
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Speaker 4: injuries back in the day. I just don't.

454
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Speaker 1: I can't take one side or the other in terms

455
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Speaker 1: of noticing the amount of Achilles injuries. I do know

456
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Speaker 1: that a lot of guys that are former players said

457
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Speaker 1: that they felt like it was the workload of the

458
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: season that may it took a toll on the bodies

459
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Speaker 1: of some of these players, which I found to be interesting.

460
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know, the two that I saw

461
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Speaker 1: in particular with Haliburton and with Tatum, they weren't even

462
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Speaker 1: really doing anything that was like when you saw it

463
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Speaker 1: take place that would say that that's that's the court,

464
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Speaker 1: or it's the technology of the shoe or whatever it

465
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Speaker 1: may be.

466
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Speaker 3: It just it went a.

467
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Speaker 4: Guy for the Mets, they think ruptured his achilles yesterday,

468
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: just trying to you know, leave to pick up the

469
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: ball off off the mound, a little ground ball he left,

470
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: planted and popped.

471
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're waiting at MRI on it. But it

472
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Speaker 3: looks like that's what it is.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the right answer is, Jonas,

474
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: but it definitely does cause for addressing the issue just

475
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: because it's such a hot button hot button talking. I mean,

476
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: it could be the reason why the Indiana Pacers failed

477
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: to win it all.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

479
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Speaker 1: That's that's that will be Probably the one biggest takeaway

480
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: from this year's NBA Finals is that if Halliburton doesn't

481
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: go down, he came out hot. He came out hot

482
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Speaker 1: in the game, and if he doesn't go down, is

483
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Speaker 1: it a different outcome? Are the trajectories different? Almost like

484
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: you know it being you're saying almost like when Charles

485
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Woodson forced the fumble on Tom Brady and they called

486
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: it a forward motion and it wasn't a fumble, Yeah,

487
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: tuckleroll like and then look at what happens, Like what

488
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: happens if they lose that game? Because they lose that game,

489
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: if Charles Woodson pulls that off, and what happens, what's

490
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: the trajectory of Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and the New

491
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: England Patriots if Charles Woodson would cause that fumble?

492
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Speaker 3: Anyways, It's like what would have? Could have, should have?

493
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Speaker 1: But I think that this is like the same type

494
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Speaker 1: of scenario is you see a situation take place with

495
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Speaker 1: Haliburton that ultimately probably dictated that outcome.

496
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Speaker 3: Of the game.

497
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Speaker 4: Next up, the race to four hundred that's four hundred million,

498
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: and that race is between two quarterbacks in the NFL,

499
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson and who Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford. Okay,

500
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: Overall over their career, Aaron Rodgers has earned a little

501
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: over three hundred eighty one million dollars. Matthew Stafford has

502
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: earned three hundred and sixty four million dollars. Now on

503
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: Stafford's deal, he signed a two year, eighty four million

504
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 4: dollar deal this offseason is going to pay him forty

505
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: four million for the twenty twenty five season, and according

506
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: to NFL Media, Stafford has already been paid four million

507
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 4: dollars of that total. Of the final forty million is

508
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: fully guaranteed, so Stafford will be cashing out in twenty

509
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: twenty five with at least four hundred and four million

510
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: dollars in career savings. Aaron Rodgers signed the one year

511
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: deal with the Steelers worth up to nineteen point five million.

512
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: If he hits every incentive in his contract, his career

513
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: earnings will cross the four hundred million dollar mark to

514
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: four hundred and one and change, which will leave him

515
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 4: just short of Stafford. But both those guys in the

516
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Speaker 4: vicinity of staring down the barrel of four hundred million

517
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: million dollars in career earnings, And my question is do

518
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: you think they're keeping score?

519
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: Because I remember.

520
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: Hearing a story back in the day that Kobe Bryant

521
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: and Kevin Garnett knew that each was in competition for

522
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: who had the most career earnings during the course of

523
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: their time in the NBA, and that was a real thing.

524
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Speaker 4: Do you think Stafford and Aaron Rodgers are at all

525
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: aware of this potential race to four hundred million dollars

526
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: in their career?

527
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: A race to four hundred million, maybe not, but possibly

528
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: making the most money in their career. I would say,

529
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: why not be aware of it? Like that's I mean,

530
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: you're not playing just to play. Why not be aware

531
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Speaker 1: of how much you're making and where that that ranked you.

532
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Speaker 3: I mean, so that's a yes, that's a real thing.

533
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Speaker 4: Sure, dude, If you're that close to four hundred million dollars,

534
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: who cares who gets it first?

535
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: Everything should be fine.

536
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Once you're that close to four hundred million dollars,

537
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: you probably have to find different diferent things that keep

538
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: you motivated. That's another reason why I know, I know

539
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: my take on Aaron Rodgers yesterday got a lot of run.

540
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of reasons as to

541
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: why there should be a red flag, a ginormous red

542
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: flag for that move.

543
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Speaker 3: But some people seem to be positive about it.

544
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: And maybe Aaron Rodgers is counting his money and saying,

545
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: you know what, like I didn't really need any money

546
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: to come here and do what it is that I

547
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: was going to do, and I'm going to crush it

548
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: as a Pittsburgh Steeler. I just don't see it being

549
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: very likely.

550
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Speaker 4: Now, do you think it's more likely that their agents

551
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: are aware of how close they are?

552
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Speaker 3: The four hundred million dollars. I mean, if they've had

553
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: the same agent the whole time, sure you got to.

554
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Speaker 4: I mean just think about the four hundred million dollars

555
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: plus all the sponsorship deals you've got. But all of that,

556
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 4: I mean, that is a hell of a living and

557
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: they've got a Super Bowl ring.

558
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. Who can like if.

559
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: Matt Stafford, I don't know if Matt Stafford's a Hall

560
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: of Famer And I don't even know if I'm saying

561
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: his name right. Maybe it's Matthew Stafford, but I don't

562
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: know if Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer. But dude,

563
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: if you were to tell me at the end of

564
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: my career, I've got a Super Bowl and four hundred

565
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: plus million dollars in career earnings, what's the problem?

566
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: Literally? What is the issue?

567
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: So he took a beating in Detroit, he ended up

568
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: in la Everything should be fine. But yeah, that is

569
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: the that is the plan in place that the race

570
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: is on between Rogers and Matthew Stafford, according to CBS Sports.

571
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: Those numbers provided by CBS Sports as they get close

572
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: to four and.

573
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: A million dollars.

574
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: Next up, there's a report out there courtesy of the

575
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: Athletic and Lee do we have the credit on this

576
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: Vikings report?

577
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: The just so we have the.

578
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: Proper credit on the Minnesota Vikings. But apparently there's a

579
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: you know, in case of emergency, if you got to

580
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: do it, if you're the Minnesota Vice Kings, and let's

581
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 4: say JJ McCarthy struggles early in the process as the

582
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: starting quarterback for the Vikings, maybe that there are two

583
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that are listed as possibilities, Kirk Cousins and Ryan Tannehill.

584
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: Those are your emergency options for JJ McCarthy should he struggle,

585
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: and should the Vikings need to what do they call

586
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: break the glass like break the glass roster? Well, Kirk

587
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: Cousins is on a rosters, not on their roster, and

588
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: then you've got Ryan Tannehill who didn't even play last

589
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: But it just goes to illustrate. Now the Vikings are

590
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: turning the keys over and basically riding this year depending

591
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: on whether or not JJ McCarthy is good and they

592
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 4: haven't seen him play a snap in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's the decision they made when they

594
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't bring back Sam Darnold and said that they weren't

595
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: interested in Aaron Rodgers.

596
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: Which I think.

597
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: Talk about averting having buyers remorse, Like if Minnesota takes

598
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers has the season I think he's

599
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: going to have, and you don't. It's another year. You

600
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: don't get to see what JJ McCarthy brings to the table.

601
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: You know, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

602
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right answer to that is.

603
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: And there's always a small possibility that Aaron Rodgers does

604
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: prove out in Pittsburgh and people get to you know,

605
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: hit me up and say, I don't know anything. You're

606
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: a bum, da dad, you say it anyway. But if

607
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: that's your best options as the Minnesota Vikings, I don't

608
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: think that you are prepared to take the next step

609
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: in being an elite football team after having such a

610
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: positive year, even though it ended on such a low note.

611
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they has have your option on the roster.

612
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: You know why you got to go out and break

613
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: the glass and go elsewhere to try to figure out

614
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: the situation if it doesn't work with JJ McCarthy.

615
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so it looks like, you know,

616
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: the Minnesota there's.

617
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: The red flags up there right now. Look they put

618
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: the red flag. Look look at the matt red Matt

619
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: see and it's in Pittsburgh. You see it covering up Pittsburgh. Yeah, boom,

620
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Now that should be pointed out, really covering that.

621
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Speaker 4: On the roster for the Minnesota Vikings, Sam Howe, Brett Rippon,

622
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: and Max Brosmer are the quarterbacks there. So who knows.

623
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Speaker 4: Maybe Sam Howe who listen, he showed him was listen,

624
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: he had some games. But that is the backup plan,

625
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: uh for the Minnesota Vikings. According to this report via

626
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: The Athletic that it is going to be potentially Ryan

627
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: Tannehill or Kirk Cousins should.

628
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Speaker 3: Things not work out for JJ. That's crazy, Yeah, that is.

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Speaker 4: And that is this week's of Your Topic round up

630
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Speaker 4: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Great job, Jonah Jonas, clean up the spatoons. Everybody, all

632
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: right there you go, all right, by.

633
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: The way, you can't you can still buy spatoons. I

634
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 4: don't know if anybody does, but I think you can

635
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: on Amazon. I've seen them and listen. You know, Amazon

636
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: could use the money based on how much that wedding

637
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 4: is gonna cost everybody. Yeah right, Uh, why the word

638
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: is that? Is that in Italy that they're having that

639
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: wedding the Bezos?

640
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: It is.

641
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they moved it around quite a bit because of protesters,

642
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: but yes, it is in Venice.

643
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: I thought one of them dip pouches the other day.

644
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Which ones two of them? I don't know, like the

645
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: ones that are in the little white pouches anymore.

646
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: Sins zen.

647
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go go stick to ceilings, do they Yeah,

648
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: if you throw it up, it won't ever come down.

649
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: It gave me a buzz in like two minutes and

650
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: then lost it. It was like that gum bazooka gum

651
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: you remember Bazooka. Yeah, had the comics on the wrapper

652
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: of it, and you chew it and it had tastes for.

653
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: Like I was just talking to my brother about that

654
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 4: Big League chew remember big League Yeah, Yeah, that would

655
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Speaker 4: disappear in a hurry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but big Lee cho at least you keep it

657
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Speaker 1: like put a big, big ass wad in your mouth.

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Pause, I know what you mat. Dang, that just totally

660
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: derailed me's all the way. Anyways, you put a big, big,

661
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: big scoop or a handful of it's no way that

662
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Speaker 1: it's going well for me.

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Speaker 4: But it feels like you're actually you've got tobacco. It

664
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Speaker 4: feels like you're actually doing it. It does actually feel

665
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: like it. As a kid, It's like, wow, I feel

666
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Speaker 4: like you know who was it? Barry Bonds used to

667
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 4: do it. I want to say.

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Speaker 1: Mark McGuire did it where they had the big ass

669
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Speaker 1: the cheek because had their whole cheek puffed out from

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: on how much they had in there.

671
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Speaker 4: What they would do is definitely they would take tobacco

672
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: leaves and they would wrap the tobacco leaves in bubblegum

673
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: like chew. They would just let that sit in there

674
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: just sound. Yes, they did and be fried.

675
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: God, how's that not a piece? Every time? Every time

676
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: I did it.

677
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: I used to do Copenhagen at least one time training

678
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: can and let me tell you some I had me

679
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: taking my clothes. I was button naked on the bit,

680
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: laying there sweating. Oh how do you guys do that

681
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: in practice? Oh my god, dude's be having a Copenhagen

682
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: during practice.

683
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Speaker 3: On a drive to Vegas.

684
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: I had a buddy who did top and bottom horseshoes

685
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: of Kodiak. On the drive to Vegas, he packed packed

686
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: the top and bottom lip with kodiac which and I've

687
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 4: never done dip or had a cigarette my entire life,

688
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: but apparently that's like the real stuff. And his eyes

689
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: were rolling in the back of his head. He was

690
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 4: spinning so bad hid and he couldn't figure it out,

691
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 4: had no equilibrium and he had to take both out

692
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: because he couldn't handle it. And they were doing that

693
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 4: and hitting like three point thirty back in the day.

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Speaker 3: Crazy Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox

696
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Speaker 4: Sports Radio. Coming up next, though, We've got an update

697
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Speaker 4: and it might not be a good one for a

698
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: potential Hall of Famer in the NFL.

699
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Speaker 3: Yours here on Fox Sports Radio.

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702
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Speaker 3: Two Pros and.

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Speaker 4: A Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas

705
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Speaker 4: Knox with you here coming up top of next hour,

706
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 4: we are going to have a Hall of Fame worthy

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Speaker 4: discussion in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: That'll be yours here on FSR. Before we get to.

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Speaker 4: This story where things are not looking great for a

710
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Speaker 4: borderline Hall of Famer, want to remind you to check

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712
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,440
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713
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,480
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714
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715
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: So Antonio Brown, the wild world of Antonio Brown has

716
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: taken yet another turn where there was a report that

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Speaker 4: came out that he has filed for bankruptcy eleven bankruptcy

718
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Speaker 4: in Florida, declaring he has less than fifty thousand dollars

719
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: in assets. He reportedly owes three million dollars in debts

720
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Speaker 4: to eight creditors, including a one point two million dollar

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Speaker 4: civil verdict over an alleged twenty twenty assault. And there's

722
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Speaker 4: also that shooting that took place. The person listed as

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Speaker 4: the victim happens to also be the person who was

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Speaker 4: the protest in the Super Bowl performance at halftime, Lane

725
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Speaker 4: Kiffin's taking shots at Antonio Brown, and you know, basically

726
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: saying Karma's a bitch. It just feels like the Antonio

727
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Speaker 4: Brown experience. This is one of the downfalls. He's a

728
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Speaker 4: wild card, He's a wild dude. It still doesn't change

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Speaker 4: the fact that I would love nothing more than to

730
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Speaker 4: be nominated.

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Speaker 3: For Cracker the Year. Oh wow, And I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't know what I need to do. Well,

733
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Speaker 3: he does need to be more of one. Maybe he'll

734
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Speaker 3: know you you are in media.

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Speaker 4: By the way, where are you a b right now?

736
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Speaker 4: Because it's knee on the run, he's overseas someone.

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Speaker 3: He's somewhere in the Middle East. Yeah, that narrows it down.

738
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Speaker 3: Oh dang, it's a place to be apparently, so good luck.

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Speaker 5: Ab