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The Cooktopia breakers. 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 6: Believe there are a couple of absolutely self involvedble God. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: That's shot, Helen, Helen. 16 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: Oh, he's back. The goat is back. 17 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't call Johnny Bones the greatest of all time. Sunday, 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: January fifteenth, The year is twenty twenty three, Episode three 19 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: eighty of the Anakin Florian Podcast. Cody stop me now 20 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: if we don't have clearance for Poe's angry Johnny ken 21 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: Flow remembers well when he walked out to that John 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: Jones is back, folks, Johnny Bones Jones is back. 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: Good morning, Kenny, how you doing man? 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 6: It's just such a great walkout song, so good, so appropriate. 25 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 4: Man, I love it. 26 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 6: I love it, you know, not only myself, the whole 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 6: mixed martial arts world has been waiting as to when 28 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 6: John Jones is going to fight again. Obviously, he's been 29 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 6: preparing for the heavyweight vision for a long time, which 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 6: I think has served him well. Obviously, not being away 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 6: are being away from the octagon for so long it 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 6: may hurt him and a certain extent, But getting up 33 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 6: to that heavyweight division doing it properly, putting on the muscle, 34 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 6: doing it, adjusting your body for that for years takes time. 35 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 6: And I think he's ready and I can't wait to 36 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 6: see John Jones on leash hell and the headweight division. 37 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: All right, A lot to get into today in headlines, 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: of course, we will recap UFC fight Night, Strickland versus 39 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: e Mavov some other MMA headlines as well. Don't forget now. 40 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Full episodes of the Antik and Florian podcast can be 41 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: accessed on the DraftKings YouTube channel. You can also access 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: clips on our Antikidploran podcast channel as well as Blah 43 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Muhammad and Jason Anis Remember the show. Full details on 44 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: this partnership coming up later in our second episode this week. 45 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: Above all else, I think the most important part of 46 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: this partnership. We're going to do two shows a week 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: now instead of one. That has not been the reality 48 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: for this show over the last eight years. We do 49 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: have to hold the rest of the details until Thursday, though, 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: thank you for your patients. As far as all of 51 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: that is concerned, I am reading right from Bretto Komodo's 52 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: article at ESPN dot com. And if you don't know, 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: in print journalism, it is lead spelled lede, and this 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: is a brilliant lead, right simple. John Jones arguably the 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: greatest fighter of all time. We'll fight Seallegan for the 56 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: heavyweight championship at UFC two eighty five on March fourth. 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: That according to UFC President Dana White, he is arguably 58 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: the greatest fighter of all time wherever you stand on that, 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: and he's back for the first time in a long time. 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: That means Francis and Gon who has been released. He 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: is no longer the unisputed UFC heavyweight championship and Dana 62 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: said that the UFC and Francis negotiated a new contract 63 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: for the better part of two years and the deal 64 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: would have made him the highest paid heavyweight in the 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: history of the company. Of course, remains to be seen 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: how long it would take him to sort of realize 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: that distinction, but Dana White said the highest paid heavyweight 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: UFC history remains brock Lesler, who retired back in twenty seventeen. 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: Here's the quote from Dana Kenfeloyd told you guys this before. 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: If you don't want to be here, you don't have 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: to be here. I think Francis is in a place 72 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: right now where he doesn't want to take a lot 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: of risk. He feels like he's in a good position 74 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: where he could fight lesser opponents and make more money. 75 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: We're going to let him do that, release him from 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: his contract and give up our right to match. Francis 77 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: did not immediately respond to requests from ESPN for comments. 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 6: Wow, it's very surprising, you know, or maybe not, based 79 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 6: on the back and forth that's been going on between Angano, 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 6: Dana and the UFC. I'm very interested to see where 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 6: exactly he's going to go. I'm sure he will have 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: a lot of suitors. I know he's had a lot 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 6: of people who have been interested in him. But you know, 84 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 6: I think this goes a little bit further than money 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 6: or him wanting to face lesser challenge, you know, and 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 6: this is the problem is when you go back and forth, 87 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: whether it's you're talking about Major League Baseball or the NFL, 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 6: and you get an owner or a coach or something 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 6: that says something bad about you're something that something that 90 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: happens back doors, that you know, behind doors that doesn't 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 6: go well. You know, you'll get certain fighters, certain professional 92 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 6: athletes that are going to make decisions that go beyond 93 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 6: just the monetary reward. So curious to see where he 94 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: ends up. Then. 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: So I'm not an executive, right, Israel Lota Sonya got 96 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: a long term deal. I don't really know how Francis 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: and Ganu in terms of his promotional value relates to 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: Israelt of Sonia, in terms of the internal metrics, in 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: terms of how he does on pay per view. I 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: know Francis and Ganu to be a walking major motion picture, right. 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: He's the baddest man on the planet, to be sure, 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: his story is unbelievable. I thought he was going to 103 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: be a superstar in a stratosphere that maybe few fighters 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: had ever realized. Maybe just a tear below Connor McGregor, 105 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: and I think largely when you're that guy, you feel 106 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: like you deserve at least five million dollars to show. 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 5: Now. 108 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what he's looking for or what exactly 109 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: he's made, or how it all works in terms of 110 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: the exact numbers on the pay per view revenue, but 111 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: certainly it's disappointing, right, I mean, as somebody who called 112 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: a lot of his signature knockouts and wins, and just 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: when you thought, I know, he's thirty five years of age, No, 114 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: in Ghano maybe is older than that. John Jones is 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: thirty five, but you know, you still felt like you 116 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: might have three or four title defenses, big fights for 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: Francis and Ghanu. So as much as we're going to 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: sit here and talk about John Jones and see it 119 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: all gone, and as much as he might end up 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: with you guys in the PFL, I mean this is 121 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: Isn't this disappointing that you know, the combat sports leader 122 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 2: and the consensus best heavyweight in the world are parting 123 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: ways or no? 124 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: All? 125 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 5: Right? 126 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: In Gano thirty six by the way, September fifth, nineteen 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: eighty six, Kent Kenny. 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: What do you have for me on all that. 129 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'll say this, I think that certainly the 130 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 6: UFC fans want to see him in there, right. I 131 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 6: think that there are some interesting challenges for him, I think, 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 6: especially in the PFL. But yeah, I think a lot 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 6: of people when you get a champion in the UFC, 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 6: it's rare that we ever see a champion just kind 135 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 6: of give up the belt and go somewhere else. This 136 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 6: is not a common thing. And I think the fact 137 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 6: that he you know, how accurate it is and whether 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 6: this was actually gonna happen, I don't know, But I 139 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 6: think the boxing fight or that was proposed between him 140 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: and Tyson Fury, is playing a part as well, because 141 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 6: it could seemingly give him the opportunity to both do 142 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 6: boxing and do mixed martial arts in the UFC just 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 6: isn't about that. They're not going to promote or co 144 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 6: promote with many people. Connor McGregor was the exception, and 145 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: I know they had to jump through hoops and a 146 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 6: bunch of stuff to get that fight with Floyd Medweather going, So, 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: you know, I think that played a part of it. 148 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 6: I think that back and forth between day and and 149 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: the UFC and Francis and his management had something to 150 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 6: do with it, and perhaps he feels like he could best, 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 6: you know, leverage something outside of the UFC. So I 152 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 6: wish him the best. It would be awesome to see 153 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 6: him in the PFL, would be you know, unbelievable. We'll 154 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 6: see where he ends up. He still is super talented, 155 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: but he is coming off a pretty bad ACL surgery, 156 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: you know, Nika knee reconstruction can take a long time. 157 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 6: I hope he's fully healed from that. 158 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: So Dana saying in Kana feels like he's in a 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: good position where he could fight lesser opponents and make 160 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: more money. So Tyson Fury is not that, right. Tyson 161 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: is the consensus hardest fight for Francis in either boxing 162 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: or MMA, and it stands to reason it is the 163 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: biggest payday by a significant margin. Right if he does 164 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: get that boxing payday against Tyson Fury, And this is 165 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: pure conjecture and maybe informed speculation, but you know, it 166 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: might take him two three UFC fights to realize that payday, right, 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: So if he gets that singular fight, you can certainly 168 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: defend the decision. But as a mixed martial arts fan, 169 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: this is widely disappointing. That Francis and gan who is 170 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: stepping away, and John Jones, as Dana says, ready willing 171 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: and able to fight any heavyweight, including Francis and Gano. 172 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: The notion that John Jones or Daniel Cormier for that matter, 173 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: right wouldn't fight Asist and Ghanu or would be intimidated 174 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: by that setting. You just don't know those guys as competitors. 175 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: So John Jones, I think, is disappointed in some part. 176 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Maybe not Ken Flow siel Goan's the fucking man. But 177 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: would you argue that John Jones not getting a chance 178 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: to fight Francis and Ghanu or to fight the consensus 179 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 2: greatest UFC heavyweight of all time, Steve A. 180 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 4: Miachich. 181 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: Maybe some disappointment there in terms of the aesthetics of 182 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: the matchup, But would you agree that John Jones was 183 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: willing to fight any goddamn man in the world at 184 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five pounds. 185 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 6: There's no question about it. These are the fights that 186 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 6: he gets up for and where he truly can shine. 187 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 6: What was particularly interesting about the fight against Francis and 188 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 6: Gano is you have this guy who is an absolute monster, 189 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: who is one hundred percent capable of knocking out John 190 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: Jones and has the athleticism to match someone like John Jones. 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 6: Cyril Gon absolutely phenomenal fighter, highly technical, has been active, 192 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 6: has shown his toughness and his technique. I love that fight, 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: But to me, he's he's very similar to John Jones 194 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 6: and how they move and the different weapons that they 195 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 6: have and the varied weapon weapons and footwork that they have. 196 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: So to me, I think that's an easier fight, not 197 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 6: an easy fight, but a far easier fight stylistically for 198 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 6: him than a Francis and Ghana. 199 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: UFC fans should be very thankful for seatle Gon and 200 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Curtis Blades, And certainly it's disappointing that Tom Aspinall is 201 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: on the men right, But to have elite heavyweights that 202 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: are ready, willing and able to headline and to fight 203 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: every three months and fight for interim championships, right, I mean, 204 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: Curtis Blades doesn't seem like a draw a line in 205 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: the sand type of guy. Seedle Gon is always ready. 206 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, these guys, right, this seemingly just got finalized. 207 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: All indications are if you've been on social media, that 208 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: seedle Goan and John Jones have been training for this date. 209 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: But you know, it really is nice if you're a 210 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: promotion to have guys like seedle Gone. As far as 211 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: the betting line is concerned, Ken Flow and perhaps Cody 212 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 2: can chase these results on social media. We did throw 213 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: a poll out there, sort of a soft poll. I 214 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: just threw the betting line out there. I didn't encourage 215 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: people to vote. But did you see that, Kenny? Do 216 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: you know what the betting line is on Draft King 217 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Sportsbook right now? 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 6: I did not. I'm really curious. Is John Jones a 219 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 6: slight favorite there? 220 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: It's close? 221 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: Seedele Gone actually is minus one thirty five and John 222 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: Jones is plus one fifteen. Now seventy two percent of 223 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: votes have been on John Jones to win the fight. 224 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: So I am going to hop out of the Draftking 225 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Sportsbook application, not now, but right now, and we're going 226 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: to see what the price is right now and see 227 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: if that has changed a lot since we were we 228 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: were on here earlier this morning. It has moved a 229 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: little bit, so seedle Gone minus one twenty and John 230 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: Jones is now even money. 231 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: So you know, perhaps our poll has moved that number 232 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: a little bit. 233 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 5: I'm not so sure. 234 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: Interesting code by the way, AF Pod yes, if you 235 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: would like to get involved as a new customer on 236 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Draftking sportsbook coming up this weekend, But a lot to 237 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: digest man, right, and later in the week we will 238 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: get into UFC two eighty six because it looks like 239 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: that is start to come together as well. But John 240 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: Jones has reportedly signed a new eight fight contract. And 241 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: you know, John Jones and Connor McGregor, and we've talked 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 2: about this, but it's like they are two unique cases 243 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: in mixed martial arts, right. One of them is the 244 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: consensus best fighter we've ever seen. The other one is 245 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: the biggest superstar in mixed martial arts history, and both 246 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: of them really want to fight. You know, I think 247 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: this could be a big year. I mean last year 248 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: was big for all you Isla Makashev and armnsaur Gian fans. 249 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: But in terms of you know, we got some real 250 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: potential star power coming back here. Second quarter, first quarter 251 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. 252 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 6: Well, John, how long has it been since John Jones 253 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 6: is fun? Is it five gears? Six years? 254 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: You know, I failed to look that up, so off 255 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: the top of my head, yeah, I want to say 256 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: like twenty nineteen, right, Okay, all right, So right. 257 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 4: Fight, was that his last fight? Is that his last fight? 258 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: I mean, my memory not great right now? This is 259 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: contelling on the audio side. 260 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, YOUFC two forty seven Johnny Bones Jones one race 261 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: February twenty twenty, just a few weeks before COVID nineteen 262 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: here in the US. 263 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 6: Look at me slightly off there, like five six years seven. Yeah, 264 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 6: so it's it's been a few years, okay. So I'm 265 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 6: curious to see how many of the new fans that 266 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: the UFC has gained over the last few years are 267 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 6: going to be introduced to John Jones for the first time, 268 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 6: and perhaps the real John Jones, right, because I don't 269 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 6: know if that was the most motivated and you know, 270 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: guy who was super motivated and training hard at two 271 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 6: hundred and five pounds. I don't think he felt scared 272 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 6: in those two hundred and five pound fights. I think 273 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: he knew that he could give average training camps, give 274 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 6: average efforts on fight night, and still win the fight. 275 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 6: I think being in the headweight division, being away trying 276 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 6: to prove a point, having a chip on his shoulder, 277 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 6: I think we're going to see the John Jones of old, 278 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 6: and I think we're going to see a lot of 279 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 6: tricks that we haven't seen in a long time. 280 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: Very very exciting. I look forward to that. It is 281 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: March fourth, UFC two eighty five. Looks like John Jones 282 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: is hopeful that Henry Shudo might even be in this corner. 283 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: So it doesn't look as though Sterling and Sahudo are 284 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: going to be uh locked up on March fourth. 285 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: But tremendous stuff. 286 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: Johnny Bones Jones back in your life, and big opportunity 287 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: for him and of course for Sidal Gone as they 288 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: reportedly will fight for the undisputed UFC Heavyweight championship. All right, 289 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: so you know my boss is my great producer Zach Candido, 290 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: Lappy La Plant and Mike Ricci sometimes listened to this show, 291 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: of course, all spearheaded by the Great crag Bord. Sorry, 292 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: perhaps I hope they're not listening right now. As I 293 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: read this text from our producer Cody Merrow over the 294 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: weekend and me and my twin bro, he writes, I'm 295 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: officially at the quote, I'm over the apex point of 296 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: my fandom. 297 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: Same sentiment for me. 298 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: We have so many positive things to say about Sean 299 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: Strickland and Dan Ey Gay and Roman caught the lob 300 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: in the entire card. But yes, as a fan sitting home, 301 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: I am over watching fights that are emanating from the 302 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: UFC EPEX so much so that I did mute from 303 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: my cell phone because you know why not and uh 304 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: and I was watching the football. 305 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: Game with the audio, you know what I mean. So 306 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, it's a different take. 307 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: Man, Like, the fans are the lifeblood of the sport, 308 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: and I don't think any UFC executive would be offended 309 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: to hear that type of language. 310 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 6: I agree with that sentiment, I think for business reasons. Obviously, 311 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: it's been quite advantageous, quite beneficial to the UFC to 312 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 6: have their events there. I mean, they're saving eight tons 313 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 6: millions of dollars having it there. But there's no question, 314 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 6: there is no debate on the energy that you get 315 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 6: when you're in a crowd that is filled up in 316 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 6: a stadium with that kind of noise and energy is 317 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 6: just different. It must be different for you calling the 318 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 6: fight is different, certainly different for the fighters who are 319 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 6: involved in these fights, and of course for the fans 320 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 6: they want to be a part of the action as well. 321 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 6: So curious to see how the schedule changes for them 322 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: here in twenty three. 323 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: I agree, and it seems like there are a handful 324 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: of apex shows during the first quarter, but it does 325 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: effectively change the sport, maybe not as much as like 326 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: open scoring would, but there're athletes that love competing here 327 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: in this little regional sized doctorgon, and there are other 328 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: fights that other fighters excuse me, that enjoy all the 329 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: pageantry that comes with sort of a number card at 330 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: a more championship setting just kind of felt like it 331 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: had to be set. But as far as the action 332 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: was concerned, I thought it was a pretty good card overall. 333 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: And what else can you say about Sean Strickland and 334 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: those who suggest that the best way to prepare for 335 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: fights in a cage is to spar, because when you 336 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: essentially come off the couch. And I know he's a 337 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven three sixty five guy who spars 338 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: a lot, right, But I don't know, man someone like 339 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: me who can barely get through a thirty five minute 340 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: high intensity strength and conditioning workout to fight another man 341 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: over twenty five fairly high paced minutes at times when 342 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: you haven't had the requisite training camp. Got a lot 343 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: of praise for Sean Strickland here on a Sunday morning. 344 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: What do you think about all that? 345 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 6: I would say this, for someone who is sparring as 346 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: much as Sean Stricklan, and when you combine that with 347 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 6: the experience that he has inside the octagon, Sean Strickland's 348 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 6: the guy who can do that, and even do that 349 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 6: in a five round main event. I don't think there's 350 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 6: a whole lot that can just because they're not sparring 351 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 6: all the time. I think the only caveat with that 352 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 6: is that it's hard to make big jumps. I think, 353 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: in my opinion, you need to be doing a lot 354 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 6: of scenario work and isolate certain skills to make those improvements. 355 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 6: I think that's why we see Sean Strickland largely the 356 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 6: same fight over fight. I don't see a whole lot 357 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 6: of differences anyways, but getting someone who's going to be 358 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 6: mentally strong, physically strong, and ready to go at a 359 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 6: moment's notice. The training that Sean Strickland does, he's well 360 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 6: suited full for a fight like last night, which was 361 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: extremely impressive. 362 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: See. 363 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: That's why Kenny Florian gets fifty one percent of Anakin 364 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: Floria see, and that's why I'm at forty nine percent, 365 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: because you're absolutely right, because you're able to be critical, 366 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: and ultimately that's what you're paid to be as an analysts, 367 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: be critical. But you're right in terms of the skill development. 368 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: Incredible pro career, pro record. But yes, I mean most 369 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: people sort of felt like we were sitting down conditioning 370 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: ourselves for a twenty five minute fight, and that's what 371 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 2: played out. 372 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 4: A lot of my buddies like that. Over four and 373 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: a half rounds. What do you have for us? 374 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: In totality on the fight, it was Strickland by unanimous 375 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: decision Overnasordini Mavov forty nine to forty six times to 376 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: forty eight forty seven from the dissenting judge. He Mavov 377 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: had his moments. Numbers were pretty. 378 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: Close, but you know, I felt like it was a 379 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 4: Sean Strickland fight pretty clearly. 380 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Listen, I don't think Sean Strickland is the most 381 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 6: orthodox fighter out there. He does some things which are 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 6: a little bit odd. There's times where he looks a 383 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 6: little bit like he's off his rhythm. He throws arm 384 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 6: punches for the most part, but it doesn't matter because 385 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 6: he's effective and he knows how to win. Rounds and 386 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 6: his volume and his pressure and his pacing, and he 387 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 6: knows what he needs to do to get himself back 388 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 6: into the fight if he needs to. So this experience 389 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 6: and this amount of sparring is really paying off. I 390 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: would like to see certain improvements technically, but this kid, 391 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 6: just on toughness, pace and pressure alone can beat a 392 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 6: lot of guys in that division. So I thought it 393 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 6: was extremely impressive, especially given the fact that Imovov is 394 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 6: a problem. Technically, He's very impressive. He throws very hard shots. 395 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: I thought he landed some good shots. But Strickland has 396 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: a tremendous chin. He's very tough, very durable, and I 397 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 6: just thought that his pacing and his volume was what 398 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 6: won him to fight last night. 399 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: So going into what was to be a main event 400 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: against Kelvin Gasolom, who, if you don't know, had to 401 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: pull out of the main event during fight week nasty 402 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: jaw injury and what looked to be some sort of 403 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: infection on his face as well. I'm not sure exactly 404 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: which was worse as far as him pulling. 405 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: Out of the fight. 406 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: But Sean Strickland gets the win and largely gets the 407 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: bulk of the praise, but it is Nasordini Mavov, right, 408 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: who essentially puts his middleweight ranking on the line in 409 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: a light heavyweight fight, and it seems to me like 410 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: takes two to tango in these short notice equations. I'm 411 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: not sure he Mavov got enough credit for willingly stepping 412 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 2: up and sort of, you know, as the guy who 413 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: was all the rage coming in, as the guy who 414 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: the card was built around, like putting a lot of 415 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: his momentum on the line, and what was a short 416 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: note of setting for him too, you know. 417 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and he came in, what ten pounds lighter than 418 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 6: Strickland on weigh in Day two was supposed to be 419 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty five pound fight, and obviously that's 420 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 6: what he was preparing for, so he had to deal 421 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 6: with the much larger opponent. I think that I Movov 422 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: is going to learn a lot from this fight against Strickland. 423 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 6: I think there's little adjustments he could have made that 424 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 6: could have won in the fight. I think there's times 425 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 6: where he checks out and starts to cruise in fights 426 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 6: where he it seems like he's just not present there 427 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 6: and checking out. At the highest levels of the sport, 428 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 6: you just can't do it, you can't do it against anyone, 429 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 6: let alone someone like Sean Strickland. So I didn't see 430 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 6: enough volume from him. There is times where he can 431 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 6: kind of disengage and reset, and I think he felt 432 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 6: like he just needed to kind of go right back 433 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 6: at Strickland and fight his kind of fight. And that's 434 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 6: not the That's not what you want to do against 435 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 6: someone like Strickland. You have to find ways to drag 436 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 6: people into your fight and not adjust to them. I 437 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: just felt like in Wovoff was trying to adjust himself 438 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 6: to the style of Strickland, and that can be a 439 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 6: difficult fight to win when you do that. 440 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff there. We'll see what happens with 441 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: Sean Strickland moving forward. Seemingly is going to stay at 442 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty five pounds, and I would say 443 00:21:43,960 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: if he can. All right, did my mic just unplug again? 444 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on here? Audio drop again. 445 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: It seems like my mic is doing its own thing today. 446 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: But I was talking about Dan Egay and you know, 447 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: sometimes parenthood can go both ways for UFC fighters. Obviously 448 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: you were not a parent when you were fighting, but 449 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: you know, I believe this is dan Egay's first win 450 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: since becoming a father and man, he was waiting to exhale. 451 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: You saw it in the post fight interview after the fight. 452 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Huge result for Dany Egay. And nothing like being able 453 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: to have a knockout like that, when when your fucking 454 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: nickname is fifty K to be able to have a 455 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 2: knockout like that, and it's all about location, right, I mean, 456 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: this was not like power slapshit where he's like in 457 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: a full squat, bending down, full throttle. Just perfect technique 458 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: execution and big bonus for Danny Gay over the weekend. 459 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Danny Gay, he's got that fu kind of power. Yeah, 460 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 6: and he doesn't need to wind up very very big. 461 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 6: He stayed patient throughout that fight. I thought he fought 462 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 6: a perfect fight for the most part. He was backing 463 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: up Damon or early in that fight, backing him up, 464 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 6: keeping him off balance, mixing things up. Actually went for 465 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 6: a takedown there at the end of round one and 466 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 6: was landing solid shots and you could see Damon respected 467 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 6: that power very early. He seemed hesitant because of it, 468 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 6: and Danny Gay finished him off with that walk off ko. Man. 469 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 4: That was that was sick, all right. 470 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: So he gay certainly positioning himself for another big fight 471 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty five pounds. Roman Koppolov, I 472 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that really resonating with a 473 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: lot of people. I mean, my twin brother and Cody 474 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 2: going fucking nuts about Roman Kopolov. I just like pronounce 475 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 2: it his name if I'm being candied. No, really good fighter, 476 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: and obviously the bodily investment and Poona hal Soriano so 477 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: much potential and I'm not the guy you go to 478 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: as far as the cardiovascular base and all of that 479 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: stuff necessarily, But pretty early in this fight, Kenny, it 480 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: sort of became for Poona like Labored just one too, 481 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: like Labored one two. 482 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on Roman Koppolov and Poona. 483 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Koppolov, man, I might I might have to purm 484 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 6: my hair after that performance. I was really impressed. Man, 485 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 6: I've been sleeping on him a little bit. I haven't 486 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 6: been too impressed, but I thought it really came together 487 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: for him very well. I thought his fainting and how 488 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 6: he was setting up his strikes, he seemed more sophisticated. 489 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 6: He seems more patient, he seems more confident in this 490 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 6: fight against Soriano, who is a very dangerous out for anybody. 491 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 6: But I think you hit the nail on the head there. 492 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 6: Soriano was just kind of looking for big shots and 493 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 6: I think he and he does have the power to 494 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 6: take you out with one or two shots, but you 495 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 6: cannot rely on that. To me, it seemed like he 496 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 6: was forcing the knockout. It really wasn't. He wasn't patient 497 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: enough to allow the knockout to kind of organically happen. 498 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 6: He was forcing it. Anytime you're forcing it out there, 499 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 6: especially at the elite levels of the sport, it rarely 500 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 6: happens for you. So for Soriano, he's going to have 501 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: to be more sophisticated, get some more weapons in his 502 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 6: tool belt, because to me it seemed like he was 503 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 6: trying one or two things it wasn't working, and he 504 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 6: was just kind of losing confidence and just hoping for 505 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 6: that one shot and couple off. I thought was way 506 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 6: more defensively sound than I've seen him, and just had 507 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 6: more tools, more weapons and took them out. And again 508 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: to your point about that first round, Sorrano just not 509 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 6: pacing himself well, just looking for those big shots. Getting 510 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 6: tired early on and if you're showing that at this 511 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 6: level and coupleof isn't a top five, top ten, top fifteen, guy, 512 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 6: I don't think at this stage it doesn't vote well 513 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 6: for Soriano. He's got some work to do, man. 514 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, I think that's all fair as 515 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: far as punahelee Soriato and we'll see what happens with 516 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: Roman Koppolov. 517 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I thought donn A. 518 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: Cruz had a particularly good night on the sticks, but 519 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: it felt like all night long he kept saying, you know, 520 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: you guys got to work the body, like I just 521 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: feel like all night long he was suggesting to headhunters 522 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: that they needed to mix in some shots to the body. 523 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Roman Kopolov did that very well, and he gets what 524 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: you could argue is the biggest win of his career. 525 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: I Ray Long made it coming up in sixty seconds 526 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: first though UFC two eighty three, taking the action to 527 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: the next level this weekend to begin twenty twenty three, 528 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: I can't wait to get to Brazil. 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Is now 551 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: time for the Ray Longo Minutes. 552 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna puts a hole in this fucking shocks. 553 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 7: That's what mark the Ray long Go Minute or. 554 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 4: The John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast. Oh clear your schedules. 555 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 2: Fast forward to this part of the program, the Ray 556 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: Longo Minute, every week dating to episode one here on 557 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: the Anak and Florian Podcast. All right, I guess March 558 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: fourth doesn't need al Jamain Sterling anymore. It looks like 559 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: John Jones might be coming back. 560 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: Did you hear? 561 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 7: Yeah? 562 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 8: I heard. 563 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 7: I heard the t mobiles and is in a lot 564 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 7: of trouble. That's what I heard. 565 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: All right, So I don't even know where to begin. 566 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: I guess with you, I kind of would like to 567 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: begin with Francis and Ghanu, who I believe is the 568 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: scariest power puncher in UFC history. People oftentimes ask me 569 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: the most scared I've ever been? Sitting Octagon's side, I 570 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: thought in Ghanu had killed alistair Ovarie. I thought he 571 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: had popped his head off his body or broken his 572 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: neck or whatever. So I guess I'll start there. It 573 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: looks like the UFC's undisputed heavyweight champion has been released. 574 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: Slash freed from his contract. That's big news. 575 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 7: I think that's huge news. Where do you want to start? 576 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a. 577 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: Little bit disappointing for me as a mixed martial arts 578 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: fan that in Ghanu's next fight seemingly is not going 579 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: to be in the UFC and it won't be against 580 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: John Jones. 581 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 8: Right now, I'm with you one hundred percent. I mean, 582 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 8: you know, we don't know what the negotiation deals with. 583 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 8: You know, Dana is saying he was going to make 584 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 8: the most money of any heavyweight, but what does that 585 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 8: even mean? 586 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know. 587 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, everybody's complaining about fight to pay, 588 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 8: but to lose your heavyweight champ, I don't think is 589 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 8: a good look, especially if the guy goes out and 590 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 8: you know, makes a killing, right, because then everybody's everybody's 591 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 8: gonna want to do that, right, everybody will jump on 592 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 8: that bandwagon. 593 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: So I mean, like, I understand Kenny Florin has a 594 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: nice smile, He's a very good analyst. What I wanted, like, 595 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: what what is the attraction? 596 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 7: Is? 597 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: It can flow? 598 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 7: Jesus, Kenny, jump in, Like you get me started on 599 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 7: this Frentison I'm waiting for you. Oh yeah, that's Kenny's dream, right. 600 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: I Ken incidentally exponentially more excited about the Francis and 601 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Ghana news than the Jake Paul news. 602 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: If I could say that, all. 603 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 7: Right, way do you think where do you think Francis 604 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 7: ends up? 605 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. 606 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: If he fights Tyson Fury in a singular boxing match, 607 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: however it goes right, and whatever the betting line is, 608 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: that's not the point. 609 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 8: Right. 610 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: If Tyson Fury has any remote interest in that fight 611 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: and Francis and Kana gets that singular payday, then you 612 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: can argue this was all worth it. 613 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 7: But right if not? I mean, was he to go 614 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 7: into the PFL for a million dollars and when that 615 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 7: they have to bump that? Can? You got to tell 616 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 7: those guys got to like eight million? 617 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: Something tells me he'd make more than that? Ye yeah, yeah, 618 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 6: I mean he or hey, maybe he goes and fight 619 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 6: Tyson Fury. One fight he makes forty to fifty million. 620 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 6: He's like, take it easy, guys. That was nice seeing you. 621 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was weird when I heard it yesterday. It 622 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 7: is a weird thought, but the very weird thought. 623 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 8: But I was like, you know, this is like what 624 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 8: I have, not not a problem with the PI, but 625 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 8: it was from the beginning, like with all of that stuff. 626 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 8: You know, maybe they know how bad that need surgery was. 627 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 8: Maybe you know, maybe they got the inside track now 628 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 8: and they know, you know what, he's probably only got 629 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 8: one fight. Maybe reinjures that it's a bad injury. I 630 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 8: don't know why, but I don't see how you let 631 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 8: that guy go. He couldn't have been asking for, you know, 632 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 8: that much money where you know the company is making money, 633 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 8: and you let a guy like that guy who's really 634 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 8: just about in the prime of viewership for everybody, So 635 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 8: that I don't know if that just hit me, like yes, 636 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 8: they went to announced. It's like, you know, and I 637 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 8: think Dane has said something like you know, I think 638 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 8: he doesn't want to take a risk or you know, 639 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 8: so wow that that's where it gets tricky to me. 640 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 8: Right that the information, right. 641 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: I hadn't thought about that angle at all. 642 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: Right, the UFCPI essentially funded by the promotion with all 643 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: of this intimate injury knowledge. Now in the NFL, right 644 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: now you have Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, who is 645 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: not playing due to a knee injury and he is 646 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: eligible for a massive contract, and candidly, I hope somehow 647 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots find a way to get the 648 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: guy right. But he can be contractually controlled by the franchise. 649 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: He is sitting out right now. They can franchise tag him. 650 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: But obviously they are acutely aware of the medicals Lamar 651 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: is as well. 652 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: But it's interesting. 653 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: I hadn't necessarily thought about that angle. I don't know, man, 654 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: it's it's disappointing for me regardless. 655 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I would have liked to have seen 656 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 8: him stage, you know, when I when Fravola Fort New York. 657 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 7: Oh shoot, I did extra rounds with Tea at David Busters. 658 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: But we had oh okay, we had it. 659 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 8: We had Francis on He's a he's a sweet guy, man, 660 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 8: He's a really well spoken, nice, humble guy. 661 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 6: I just as long as he's not hitting you, as 662 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 6: long as yeah. 663 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you had Francis and Ganu on extra rounds 664 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: at David Busters. Is how you're saying you interviewed him 665 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: when you were on extra rounds. 666 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 8: So well, on a second, no, just yes, okay, that 667 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 8: would be correct. So there's two options for Francis, I'm 668 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 8: going to go with it's the pf L. It's slap league. 669 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, so you might have let him go just so 670 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 7: we can go in the slap league. That's the option 671 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 7: number two. 672 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: Well, for all a minute, man, if when you're done 673 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: with the Anakin Florian podcast episode today on the Jeftkings 674 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: YouTube channel, you can hell and uh you know, check 675 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: out Longo interviewing Francis and Gonald Sure. 676 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 4: It's absolutely fucking riveting. 677 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 7: And TJ Desantas don't leave. TJ DJ really was. He 678 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 7: was the star of the show. 679 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 5: All right. 680 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: So John Jones versus Seattle Gone, who do you think 681 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: is the betting favorite right now? 682 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: Or do you already know? 683 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 7: And I don't know. I would say Cyril Gun's the 684 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 7: betting favorite. 685 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: See that's why you get paid the big bucks. He 686 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: is the betting favorite. Albeit slightly sounds like you like 687 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: the matchup for Seattle Gon a little bit. 688 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 8: Well, you know, look, the guy is of four and 689 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 8: three years. Who knows, you know what he's been doing. 690 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 8: I hope he's been training. But yeah, I like that 691 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 8: Zero has been active. He looks like he knows how 692 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 8: to navigate, you know, I mean for he's a big guy. 693 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 8: So I think Jones anytime he had any probably problems 694 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 8: with anybody, well, guys that were kind of his size, 695 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 8: like the first Gustason fight and even the guy I 696 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 8: thought beat him what was his name? Uh, he's already 697 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 8: forgot come. 698 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 7: On, help me out. 699 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: Sorry I was, I was actually. 700 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 7: Rays, you know what I mean. 701 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 8: So he I think he has trouble with the bigger 702 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 8: guys than this guy's quick. You know, he knows how, 703 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 8: he's light on his feet, he can mix it up. 704 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 8: I mean, obviously there's a big discrepancy in the wrestling 705 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 8: ways where I would think he's going to take the 706 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 8: fight that that. I'm sure he's still he's still got 707 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 8: some pop there, but uh, you know, it's a five 708 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 8: round fight, so we'll see. But I could see him 709 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 8: taking Zero Down and just ending the fight in the 710 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 8: first round if he wanted to. But I'd still put 711 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 8: zero Down as the favorite. 712 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't want to get into John Jones's 713 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 2: place sort of historically, right, but when you see people 714 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 2: like me, right, there's been a go sighting or when 715 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: people write John Jones arguably the greatest mixed martial arts 716 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: athlete of all time, is back, Like, where do you 717 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: stand on that? Just given some of the things that 718 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: he has brought upon himself in his career, if you wait, 719 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: we go over that again with the well, I guess 720 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, right like Anderson Silva, Right, some people 721 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: don't consider him the greatest of all time because of 722 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: the transgressions late in his career. You know, some people 723 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: denigrate John Jones as far as that is concerned. That's 724 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: why I think most people believe GSP is the greatest 725 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: of all time. Some would suggest Hobibner Mago met up. 726 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: For me, the greatest mixed martial arts athlete I've ever 727 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: seen compete in an MMA setting is John. I'm just 728 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: curious where you stand on all of that, you know, 729 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: because you led what I mentioned John Jones with T 730 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: mobile better you know type not right, So I'm just 731 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: curious where you stand, and you know how you feel 732 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: about him sort of you know, re entering the fray. 733 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, look I tell you you can't deny what 734 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 8: he's done. That's impossible, right, I mean the guy was 735 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 8: the guy can fight, he was great. Uh, you know 736 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 8: obviously is off the out of the octagon antics. I 737 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 8: can't stand and you know, to me, that's always going 738 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 8: to diminish who he is. I don't want to just 739 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 8: look at people for the way they fight. I want 740 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 8: to look at the way people conduct themselves in life. 741 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 8: And that's where I think he fails. And gsp hits 742 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 8: a home run more than him and even Kabib. I mean, 743 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 8: even what Kabeb's doing now with the just want to 744 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 8: spend time with the kids. This is you know, this 745 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 8: is these are things that are huge that people I 746 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 8: don't I think we're in the society they don't even understand. 747 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 8: But you know, I think when you have principal and 748 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 8: you have character, I want to put that above the fighting. 749 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 8: So for those for that reason, I'm going to go, 750 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 8: you know, with guys like that, I mean, I don't 751 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 8: know why would we leave out Demitrius Johnson. 752 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 7: He's probably the greatest of all time. 753 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 8: I mean, I mean the things he did in the octagon, yeah, 754 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 8: uh were phenomenal and he's still going. I mean, I 755 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 8: still think his greatest thing he did today was uh 756 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 8: of today was when he beat that tie guy in 757 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 8: that three round crazy fight. He when he had to 758 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 8: do the first round with a killer and he survived 759 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 8: and then he took him down, submitted him. So I 760 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 8: think that guy to me, you know, when you start 761 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 8: doing all the type of things outside like that, I 762 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 8: think that defined you and it pulls you away from 763 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 8: uh you know that that would be like making you know, 764 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 8: John Jones do one round with Mike Tyson. 765 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 7: Then he has to go Yo. That's not easy to do, 766 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 7: you know. 767 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: No, it's a tremendous oversight by me. I wasn't trying 768 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: to be uh inexclusive or exclusive, but uh, you got 769 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 2: you're too small for me to be the one hundred, 770 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, bigger, bigger man to be the greatest 771 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: of all time, at least for me. 772 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 7: He did something. 773 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 8: He did some crazy stuff, you know when he picked 774 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 8: that guy up and on bottom in mid air and 775 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 8: come on. 776 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 7: I mean you can't you can't deny yeah, of course 777 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 7: the way he bought No, he's disgusted, he's he's actually 778 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 7: you're man, all right? Did you watch so John Jones? 779 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 8: I think you can't deny that the guy could fight 780 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 8: period and you could put him up there is one 781 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 8: of the greatest ever. Do it unequivocally. I just you know, 782 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 8: there's got to be an asterisk next I mean the 783 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 8: pds and it's just awful. I don't know, take them 784 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 8: off the list. Matter of fact, all right, the movie 785 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 8: keep talking about it. 786 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you know this, but Matt 787 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: the steamroll of for Vola, is going to join us 788 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: in about five minutes because there's a really special circumstance 789 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: going on in his life right now. So I just 790 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: wanted to compare you for that, and we'll talk about 791 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: that in a minute. But did you watch Sean Strickland 792 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: and No Sordini Mobov in the UFC Fight night this weekend? 793 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 5: All right? 794 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: So before you get into whatever wets your beak as 795 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: far as the highlights are concerned, I do want to 796 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: read you this from our producer, Cody Merrow. He sent 797 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: this text this weekend. Okay, and Cody's die hard, right. 798 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: He watched all forty one UFC live events last year. 799 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: He didn't watch all the prelims, but he watches all 800 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: of these shows. And he wrote last night, I'm officially 801 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: and maybe this is in part because the NFL was 802 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: also going on. Okay, and now he's saying he watched 803 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: every fight this past weekend. I don't fucking believe him. 804 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: All right, I think Cody, he wrote, I'm officially at 805 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 2: the I'm over the Apex point of my fandom. So 806 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: Cody's having a hard time like watching these fights from 807 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: the ufc apex, And I just want to ask you 808 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: in terms of your viewership. I know you're coaching every weekend. 809 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: You're constantly cornering guys when maybe there aren't a lot 810 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: of fans. Although Ring of Combat's fucking loud, banging it 811 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: out all the goddamn time, but I don't know, man, Like, 812 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: sometimes it feels anti climactic for me watching as a 813 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: phone when you know they cap a post fight interview 814 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: and it sounds like a funeral man, And I feel 815 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 2: like cody sentiment is one that is shared by the majority. 816 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 817 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 7: I'll tell you know, it's a weird week, dassnek because 818 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 7: they starved us for like three or four weeks, so 819 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 7: I was happy to see anything. I'm a junkie, Yeah, 820 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 7: but I think that point is really well taken at 821 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 7: this point. But look, it's it's like well basically, he 822 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 7: followed up. 823 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 2: He said that Umar and Ramago medov knockout would have 824 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: popped any arena from Siberia to Hawaii and feels like 825 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: you're losing out out on these seminal moments. 826 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 7: Yeah. 827 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's one thing like in a in a 828 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: COVID in the middle of a pandemic, for DC and 829 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: STEPA to complete their trilogy at the apex. It's insane, right, 830 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: but it had to happen, right, I don't know. 831 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 8: But because of that, it's going to keep happening because 832 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 8: you know, once you figure out you can make money 833 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 8: more money, yeah, without doing anything, and you're not losing anything. 834 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 8: It's almost like this, Nobody goes back to the office, John, 835 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 8: everybody zooms it. Nobody wants to go back. You might 836 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 8: as well get rid of all those buildings that were 837 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 8: housing the companies. It's crazy, you know what I mean. 838 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 8: So it's the same type of deal once you get 839 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 8: a custom and you get used to something and you go, wow, 840 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 8: I don't have to pay two million dollars in rent 841 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 8: every month and I could still have the same bottom 842 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 8: line at the end of the year. So from a 843 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 8: business standpoint, obviously, it makes a shitlotus stands from a 844 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 8: fan standpoint, From the fighters standpoint, yeah, it's always better 845 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 8: in those big arenas. Come on, who doesn't want that? 846 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 8: You know what the ambiance feels like in that John, 847 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 8: when you're call in a fight the same thing you 848 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 8: don't but you don't really call. Do you call a 849 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 8: lot of fights in the Apex? 850 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean not as many as I did in 851 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 4: the past, but I do. Yeah, so it did. 852 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 8: Sometimes it's good for an intimate setting. But I think 853 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 8: enough is enough. I gotta go with Cody on that. 854 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 8: All right, I think that's a valid point. 855 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get fired if I don't shift the conversation 856 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 2: back to the accident. You call Frances and Gonald France, 857 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: you got a number for somewhere over the PFL. 858 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 7: Dot. I don't think we say anything, No, I mean 859 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 7: it just. 860 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: It provoked thought because I was having some of those 861 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: feelings myself. 862 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 7: And then and by I agree with that. 863 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 8: But again, if if, if you're in the business of 864 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 8: producing content and people say, I don't care where it 865 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 8: comes from, the bathroom, the apex, the TMO, what are 866 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 8: you going to do? I mean, it's a bottom line. 867 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 8: It's a numbers oriented business man. You know, you got 868 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 8: those bean count is and they going it would be 869 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 8: due to T Mobile. We can make another three million 870 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 8: rads here just by staying and nobody cares. 871 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: Are you a side sleeper? 872 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 6: Ray? 873 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: You sleep on your side? Your bare? 874 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 7: Is my hair going crazy? 875 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 4: It's fine. I mean, I think it's part of the appeal. 876 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 7: It's why you're fifty percent on my right and fifty 877 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 7: percent on my left. 878 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: That's why your public approval rating is so high, because 879 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 2: you're here with your cold brew. 880 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, you don't need to brush his teeth. Guys, 881 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 4: you don't need to brush his fucking teeth. 882 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I just haint why you got 883 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 7: stuff with my teeth? 884 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 4: Did you brush your teeth before the show today? 885 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 7: Definitely not. 886 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a man of veracity. 887 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, what is the age? 888 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 6: What is that age where you're just like, I don't 889 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 6: give a shit out of you. I'm not gonna shout. 890 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 3: An age. 891 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 8: There is written age, Kenny. Yeah, that is a valid 892 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 8: point when I think I'm there. Actually, you know you 893 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 8: were to your premature. I got I guess say I'm 894 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 8: going to go up with fifties. You saw going you 895 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 8: just you know what I have? You start just coming home, 896 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 8: you don't even making in the house, just piss at 897 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 8: the front door. This is what happens. This is what 898 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 8: happens when you get older. You just don't give a 899 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 8: shit anymore unfortunately. So yeah, no, no, Kenny, that's a 900 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 8: really good point, because things start going sideways. 901 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 7: I don't even understand them myself. 902 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I've started to change at forty four. I'll 903 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 4: never forget my. 904 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: Late grandfather, my maternal grandfather, Howard Grayson, who my son 905 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: was named after. But towards the end, right, you know, 906 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 2: just like stonewalling my grandmother, like, honey, what do you 907 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 2: want for lunch? 908 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 5: Right? 909 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: What do you want for lunch? 910 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: Right? And he looks at his grandsons like I'm gonna 911 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: smile and not even fucking answer because the game's on, right, 912 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: watch me do this? 913 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 7: And oh that's your talking relationships. That's a totally different ballgame. 914 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 2: But no, I just feel like I because candidly, right, 915 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 2: a lot of UFC fans feel like I'm a super 916 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: nice guy, and I am a pretty nice guy, I guess, 917 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: but not when compared to my twin brother, necessarily and 918 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: generally speaking, in my family, I'm kind of the asshole, right, 919 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 2: And so I feel like when I'm sixty, I'll probably 920 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: be more of a dick than I am when I'm 921 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: forty four. 922 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 7: Right, it goes two ways. You either get nicer or 923 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 7: you get real ornery. 924 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 5: Yeah. 925 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: One guy who I know back in, One guy who 926 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 2: I know brushed his teeth this morning. He's joining us 927 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 2: on the guest line right now. Friend of the Anak 928 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 2: and Florian podcast, you have to lightweight contender. Oh yeah, 929 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: the steamroll of Fravola and I call you a contender 930 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 2: because you're on a winning streak right now. It's great 931 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 2: to see you, and we're going to get into a 932 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: lot of different things today. I have my team steam 933 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: shirt on last week, so I wasn't going to run 934 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 2: it back consecutive episodes, but it's good to see you. 935 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 4: Brother. 936 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 5: How you doing, Yeah, doing good. How are you guys doing? 937 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 4: We're doing great, man. Yeah, so you're being much. 938 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 8: Before we get into Matt Frovold, because this is a beautiful, 939 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 8: unbelievable story me. But I'll tell you the guy yesterday 940 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 8: in the gym Frovola, tell them how was that? The 941 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 8: ambiance in the gym yesterday? The sparring Kenny was unbelievable 942 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 8: between I mean pompos Armando, Steve Lee, Naz Frovola, the kid, 943 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 8: Montavo Levon it's you know what I loved about yesterday 944 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 8: met It started with guys with the least experience who 945 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 8: were good up to the next level, up to the net, 946 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 8: and the guys with the most fights probably I mean, 947 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 8: the kids got a shipload of fights and the other kid, 948 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 8: Levan might have what are they saying he has two 949 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 8: hundred kickboxing fights. 950 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 7: I mean, Kenny. 951 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 8: The atmosphere was crazy and Nas and Matt went at 952 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 8: it yesterday. I mean the whole gym is clapping. 953 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 7: It's it. 954 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 8: The ambiance was unbelievable. So shout out to all the 955 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 8: guys yesterday. They they kind of put on the show. 956 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 7: You know. 957 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 8: I had a couple of privates. They charged them extra 958 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 8: like they were at a fight. I said, don't think 959 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 8: you're leaving. It's another one hundred and fifty bucks. You 960 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 8: had a rings, I'd see you on one of. 961 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 5: One of the things about about our gym, like every Saturday, 962 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 5: every Saturday, everybody gets they're hard sparring in and uh 963 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 5: and it's like smokers. You know, it's like two hours. Yeah, 964 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 5: you guys take the cage and they spar hard for 965 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 5: three fives and everybody's around the cage watching, cheering, on 966 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 5: and uh, I think that's a it's huge, especially for 967 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 5: these young guys coming up. You know, like I say, 968 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 5: they're smokers. 969 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 7: It's not smart, they are smoking. And that gets you 970 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 7: used to the apex because it's the same exact thing. 971 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 7: It's yeah, it's the same thing. 972 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 6: And it's a different type of pressure too in a way, 973 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 6: right because you got everyone's cheering for each other. You're 974 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 6: going to gainst a competitive teammate. You know, it's awesome. 975 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 8: Yesterday yesterday the ambiance, I tell you as a coach, 976 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 8: that's why. So you guys are asked me stories. Do 977 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 8: I still have the passion yet? 978 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 7: For days like that? I went. 979 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 8: I walked into that gym a little groggy by the 980 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 8: end of those sparring sessions. 981 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 6: I was. 982 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 7: I didn't even know what to though. I just started 983 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 7: lifting weight was nuts, Yeah, fires you up? 984 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 5: Yeah? 985 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 2: All right, Well it's good to have UFC lightweight Matt 986 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 2: Forravola with us. How did my guy Steve Lee do, 987 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: by the way, was he getting tuned up or was 988 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 2: he tuning on others up? Steve had day, Yeah, that's 989 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: my guy right there. But Forravola didn't have a fucking 990 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 2: scratch on him. 991 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 5: But it was looking good. 992 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for Vola, looking. 993 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 2: Fresh as a daisy. So, do you, by the way, 994 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: know right now who is the number fifteen ranked lightweight 995 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: in the world, Matt. You probably don't know who that is, 996 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 2: do you? No, I don't know right now because I 997 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 2: guess I'm just curious, Like, are you numbered like twenty 998 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: five in the world, Like there are probably seventy UFC lightweights, 999 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 2: right so, like I don't want to discredit you by 1000 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: saying you're twenty five or thirty five. Grant Dawson is 1001 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 2: the number fifteen ranked lightweight in the world right now, Like, 1002 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 2: do you have any idea where you fall? 1003 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 4: Probably not. 1004 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 5: I just know I'm somewhere in the thirties. But all 1005 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 5: that over to that guy and he tells me where I'm. 1006 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 7: At, Oh, two babies and on the rise. 1007 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 5: Big, I'm thirty two and on the rise. 1008 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 4: If you don't know that is the great cell the 1009 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 4: bulldos God damn right. 1010 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: So we all we all always love having you on 1011 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: the program, but today specifically, we did want to just 1012 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: talk to you because the story crossed over a lot 1013 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: of our respective wakes on social media. Your wife Billy 1014 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: has donated her kidney or is in the process of 1015 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 2: doing that to an immediate family member. So what can 1016 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 2: you tell us about all of that, how it came together, 1017 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 2: and how everybody's doing, you know now and looking forward. 1018 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, my wife, Billy, she she donated her 1019 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 5: kidney to save her father's life, which was you know, 1020 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 5: it's really amazing and it kind of opened my eyes 1021 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 5: to organ donation and how much that helps, you know, 1022 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 5: people around the world. And she's she's doing well, and 1023 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 5: Joe Snelli, her father is doing well, and everybody's in 1024 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 5: recovery and you know, he's got a new lease on life. 1025 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 5: He's going to be able to hang out with the 1026 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 5: grandkids and uh and and we're real happy about that. 1027 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 5: I'm so proud of my wife. 1028 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 7: You should be. 1029 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 4: That's absolutely incredible. 1030 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: And I'm glad I didn't know the timeline, but I'm 1031 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: glad that they are out the other side right now. 1032 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 2: So how long ago did he get sick and when 1033 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 2: did you guys sort of start the process of finding 1034 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: out who could be a potential match and your wife's 1035 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 2: ultimate willingness to go through with all that. 1036 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's been on dialysis for for a 1037 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 5: long time now, having to go to the hospital and 1038 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 5: uh and do all that and not being able to 1039 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 5: to eat healthy foods and all that, and uh and yes, 1040 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 5: she she got tested and she was a match and 1041 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 5: she was completely willing and and selfless and uh and 1042 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 5: and we finally got the surgery done. And now now 1043 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 5: they're both on the recovery and and it's it's all good. 1044 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 2: Dude, that's just absolutely incredible. And uh, it's so heartening 1045 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 2: for a lot of us to hear this and talking 1046 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: about just the overall familial willingness for you and for Billy. 1047 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 2: It's an incredible story. I have to ask, and maybe 1048 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 2: somebody in this room knows this. I mean, Kenny was 1049 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 2: born into a medical family. Can you compete mixed martial art? 1050 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: You can compete mixed martial arts with one kidney? 1051 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 6: Right? 1052 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 7: Like? 1053 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously for you to donate a kidney in 1054 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,760 Speaker 2: the prime of your MMA career as a professional athlete 1055 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: would have been challenging. But I'd imagine you can fight 1056 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 2: with one kidney, right, Ken Flill, I think so. 1057 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I really don't know on that. What's 1058 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 6: the recovery, like Matt for her now after getting a kidney. 1059 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 5: Remove, Yeah, she's super sore, you know, like kind of 1060 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 5: sitting up is tough. I gotta kind of help her 1061 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 5: sit up. But she's back to walking around and she 1062 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 5: has like too much, Like the incision isn't even that big, 1063 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 5: you know, it's not too much, but she's definitely sore 1064 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 5: right now. It's like been like five days since the surgery, 1065 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 5: so I think, you know, the next couple of days 1066 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 5: are gonna be the toughest. But she's she's she's strong, 1067 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 5: you know, she's she's strong, stronger than I think even 1068 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 5: she knows, and she's she's really proven it to everybody 1069 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 5: now and it's just it's amazing to watch. And you know, 1070 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 5: she's got her little bell. Whenever she brings her bell, yeah, 1071 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 5: Femla comes running. 1072 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, Well, I know you guys have a really 1073 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 2: special bond and it's only going to bring everybody even 1074 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 2: even closer. So you have our ultimate respect as far 1075 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 2: as all of that is concerned. As far as your 1076 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 2: own timeline is concerned, Maddie, I know that there are 1077 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 2: rumors of a UFC event maybe in Brooklyn and April, 1078 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 2: and as you know, we've talked to you about about 1079 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 2: this with you before they seem to like preserve you 1080 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: and your style for these numbered cards. So i'd imagine 1081 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 2: you're sort of, you know, staying in the matchmaker's ears. 1082 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 2: But what can you tell us about twenty twenty three 1083 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 2: in the first and second quarter and when we might 1084 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 2: see it? 1085 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know I've been I've been training for that 1086 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 5: April eighth card. The rumor was Brooklyn Barkley Center. You know, 1087 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 5: I'd love to come back to New York and put 1088 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 5: on a great show, you know, at the Barkley Center. 1089 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 5: And you know we've been talking. I told them pretty 1090 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 5: much anybody, anybody April A. But also another opening just 1091 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 5: happened on that March card, March eighteenth. I know Chris Dokt, 1092 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 5: Chris Duncan just lost his opponent, so I threw my 1093 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 5: name the name in the hat for that fight. You know, 1094 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 5: that guy had a crazy fight with our teammate Charlie. 1095 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 5: So it'd be nice to get that one back for 1096 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 5: the team. And you know, a trip to London does 1097 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 5: not sound bad. 1098 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 6: I love it. 1099 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 4: I love it all right. 1100 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, hey, if my twin brother doesn't come, maybe you 1101 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: use my two tickets as well for you if you 1102 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 2: end up fighting over there. All right, before we let 1103 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: you go, I got to get your thoughts on this, 1104 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: and again I appreciate your time on a Sunday. 1105 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1106 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, my Mike keeps cutting out today. I don't understand 1107 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 2: exactly why it's turning off on its own, but I 1108 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 2: would encourage anybody out there. I know we all have 1109 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 2: our own beliefs, but I am an Oregon donor on 1110 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 2: my Florida license, and I would encourage anybody to to 1111 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 2: strongly consider doing that. But all right, So Daniel Cormier 1112 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 2: is my dear friend and broadcast partner, but he says 1113 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 2: a lot of ridiculous things, Like he said, Jong Way 1114 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 2: Lee is the greatest athlete of all time, and that 1115 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: actually is holding up pretty well. Like I could sit 1116 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 2: here and say, Jeong Way Lee, maybe he's top five. 1117 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 7: Man or woman. 1118 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 2: I've ever seen that one's holding up well. But Mattie, 1119 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 2: he said, if Alexander Volkanovsky beats his teammate Islam Maikashev, 1120 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 2: it'll be the biggest upset in UFC history. So to 1121 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 2: say that a guy who's won like twenty two consecutive 1122 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: fights would be pulling off the biggest upset in UFC 1123 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 2: history however much the size discrepancy. To me, it sounds ignorant. 1124 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: So I know for you, Matt, maybe see the word 1125 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: ignorant sounds like I'm taking a shot at DC. 1126 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 7: It's not, oh, of course, not just stupid ass would 1127 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 7: have been better? 1128 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, no, maybe it's like a hot take for ratings. 1129 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Matt, maybe for you, right, like Matt, 1130 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 2: Matt Ravola is a lightweight contender, so perhaps you would 1131 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 2: have liked. 1132 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 7: To see. 1133 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm getting myself in trouble to Hey, now, maybe you 1134 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 2: would have liked to see a lightweight be the guy 1135 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 2: who islam defends the belt for the first time against it, 1136 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 2: not a featherweight coming up. But how do you handicap Volkanov? 1137 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 2: He's chances overall and his chances against say like versus 1138 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 2: say like video Dargish. 1139 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I don't agree with that statement either. 1140 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 5: You know, Volcas isn't volk like the number one pound 1141 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,479 Speaker 5: for pound right now. 1142 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 2: Maybe the number one pound for pound fighter in the world. 1143 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 5: How could you say that that if he wins, it's 1144 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 5: the biggest upset. You know, I know islunds good, but 1145 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 5: he has been beat you know, he's he he lost 1146 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 5: his UFC debut, but you know, I'm interested in that fight, 1147 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,240 Speaker 5: like I want to see. I think I like watching 1148 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 5: people chase greatness. Like when Bender went up to challenge Blakovich, 1149 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 5: you know, in a losing effort. I respected, I really 1150 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 5: respected that that. You know, he went up and he 1151 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 5: and he went for it. And and that's what Volk's doing. 1152 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 5: He's going to go up away class and he's going 1153 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 5: to chase greatness. So you cannot root for that, all right. 1154 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 2: Matt, the steam roll of re VOLDI. You can check 1155 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 2: him out by the way for the merchandise on millions 1156 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,320 Speaker 2: dot co. 1157 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 7: Also, it's again Team steam. 1158 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 2: Designs are out there and I hope to see it 1159 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 2: either in London or in New York. But please send 1160 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 2: our best to your inspirational wife, Billy. And you know, 1161 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 2: we appreciate just the whole good nature, tight knit core 1162 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 2: of your family. And I don't know, man, it's a 1163 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 2: pretty special thing. We wanted to highlight it today. 1164 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 8: So yeah, and Matt, Maddie, I'm gonna I'm definitely, I'm 1165 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 8: saying is because I want to be held accountable. 1166 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 7: I'll be there around six thirty. 1167 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 8: I'm bringing dessert, so don't go save it, man, So 1168 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 8: tell big Salam coming over. 1169 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 5: Finally there you go, he's coming. 1170 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 7: I'll be there. Sal let me ever reclient salth get 1171 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 7: the recline already. I might not I might not leave. Yeah. 1172 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,919 Speaker 5: And the the amount of support that I made that post. 1173 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 5: You know, I'm always a little iffy about putting too 1174 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 5: much personal family stuff out there in the social media world. 1175 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 5: But the amount of support and uh that people are 1176 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 5: saying is really really lifting her spirits. And uh and 1177 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 5: actually Alex Cohen, Steve Cohen's wife hit me up about 1178 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 5: about my wife. I was real about it. And then 1179 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 5: we got to invite to the Islanders game on the 1180 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 5: twenty seventh in the in the owner's suite, so she's 1181 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 5: pumped about that too. And uh, you know, I gotta 1182 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 5: gotta keep this relationship with the Cohen's going. You know, 1183 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 5: I want to I want to tell Steve Cohen or 1184 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 5: tell Steve con to hit up Dana and teach him 1185 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 5: how to how to take care of his athletes. 1186 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 2: You know, hey, you know you deserve it all. I 1187 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 2: gotta say, man, and I'm not telling you anything you 1188 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 2: don't know, but it's hard to get embedded in the 1189 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 2: New York market with those sports teams. Even as a 1190 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 2: UFC fighter, right, like your Ryah favors the King of 1191 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 2: Sacramento can flow being a pro fighter in Boston like 1192 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: no one gave a shit in his prime like they 1193 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 2: did with respect, right, but no, but it's like the 1194 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 2: Patriots and the Red Sox and the Celtics and the Bruins. 1195 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 2: Obviously when he went to TV Garden it was a 1196 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 2: big deal. But no, I give you credit. It's dripping 1197 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: out space with the New York sports teams and uh, 1198 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 2: you know, please send our best of Billy and sell 1199 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 2: the whole plan and we'll see you soon, brother. 1200 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 5: I will, I will do we Uh, Coach, we got 1201 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 5: to tell him about my letter that I wrote to 1202 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 5: Dana White that. 1203 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 7: I'm definitely definitely not the time of place. Let's save you. Yeah, hey, Matt, 1204 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 7: You're always welcome on the podcast. So he's already John's 1205 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 7: already insulted enough people today. Actually we leave it at that. 1206 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 7: He took down d C and Kenny and one swoop, 1207 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'll rocked right now. 1208 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 6: Rock Someone just stopped. 1209 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 5: I don't know what's happening. 1210 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Well, I guess we'll take it, Matt. 1211 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 7: Let's say, let's say next time, go ahead. 1212 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 5: I know I broke, I broke some news. You guys 1213 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 5: said that the UFC April eight is going to be 1214 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 5: in Brooklyn. You know hopefully that's true. But uh, I 1215 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 5: got a little another thing. Billy C's got a big fight. 1216 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 5: Come wow, big wow? Like are you breaking that? 1217 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 7: We could hear it. 1218 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 5: All I can say is is, uh, keep an eye 1219 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 5: out for Billy Q fight news coming soon. It's a 1220 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 5: big fight in April. 1221 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 7: That's exciting. 1222 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 5: I want to know. 1223 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 7: Then wait, hold on, bet man, that's in April. 1224 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be in April. I'll tell you 1225 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 5: when I see you. 1226 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 7: But it's can you get on that freaking card? Please? Hey, 1227 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 7: let's go. 1228 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 5: Ready, We're getting on that card whether we go to 1229 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 5: or or we're going to bring the house down in Brooklyn. 1230 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 7: You know how we did, coach, all right, let's do it. 1231 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 2: Hey, enjoy the rest of your Enjoy the rest of 1232 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 2: your Sunday, Matt. We appreciate the time. Next time you 1233 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 2: come on, there'll be no rain long ago to cut 1234 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 2: you off. 1235 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 5: So no, no, no, no, guys, nice talking to you. 1236 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1237 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 7: Now, keep everybody in suspense. Well, John, you're on a 1238 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 7: roll today. Betty's back. I'm wait, Big Sala has something 1239 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 7: to say. 1240 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not going to cut you off, so big 1241 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 4: debate off. 1242 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 3: Let me know. 1243 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 7: I'll come in and I'll do a little. 1244 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah sounds good. Thank you very much. The Forbola clans 1245 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: ow here on the Anakin Florian podcast. I'm the I'm 1246 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 2: the president of Team Florian. Like I feel like as 1247 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: the biggest Kenny Florian fan of the world. Sometimes I 1248 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 2: can hit people with a docer reality, like if the 1249 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 2: dude was born in Albuquerque in New Mexico, you have 1250 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 2: a fucking statue. 1251 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 7: Or isn't this is this is? This is unbelievable. 1252 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 2: Today, I feel like I'm just speaking truth all the 1253 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 2: time and I'm just perpetually misunderstood. Kenny By there was 1254 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 2: a lot expected of Islami Kashev even when he made 1255 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 2: his UFC debut. That's why when he lost to Algiano 1256 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 2: Martinz early on, it was like, whoa, I was at 1257 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 2: his first or second fight, maybe his first fight in 1258 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: the UFC. 1259 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, we called that. I think we called it one. 1260 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 4: But isn't like. 1261 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 2: Dude, Agiano Martinz beating that version of Islam Mai Kashev 1262 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: is a bigger upset than Volkanovsky beating this version. In 1263 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 2: my opinion, I just think that is just a huge stretch. 1264 00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 8: But but how many guys have gone up and wait 1265 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 8: and then and won no matter where the. 1266 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,479 Speaker 7: Champ was No duly noted. 1267 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 8: I just think I just think Israel is a talented guy, 1268 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 8: and Jan wasn't the best heavyweight champ by far right. 1269 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 8: He's a great fighter, but he couldn't pull it off. 1270 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 8: Halloway couldn't pull it off against Poorier. I mean, I 1271 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 8: don't know whichet. Am I missing something? 1272 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 2: No, I think these are valid points. I'm just sitting 1273 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 2: here saying that Alexander Volkanovski is one of the greatest 1274 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 2: of all time, maybe the greatest featherweight of all time already, 1275 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 2: despite the fact that Jose Aldo and Max Holloway can 1276 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 2: also lay claim to that. I don't think Alexander Volkanovski 1277 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: beating Kamoro Usman or fucking Leon Edwards at seventy would 1278 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 2: be the biggest upset in MMA history, right, Like, who 1279 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: are we talking about? The biggest upsets in the UFC 1280 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 2: history don't involve like all time Hall of Fame fighters. 1281 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 2: But hey, man, you know DC's podcast does a little 1282 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 2: bit better than this. 1283 01:00:54,680 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 7: So maybe wait, DC's got a podcast. What's the name 1284 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 7: of it. 1285 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, I think right he looks on it. 1286 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: He's the man. Hey, Ray, thanks for the extended time, 1287 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I have a great day to 1288 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 2: better even just be on time later to that be 1289 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 2: on time later, Okay, I. 1290 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 8: Tell you wait, wait before we go. That is an unbelievable, fantastic, 1291 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 8: feel good story. 1292 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 7: I mean I was. 1293 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 8: I was blown away when he told me that, Kenny, 1294 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 8: I was like, because he kind of not I don't 1295 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 8: want to say not. He might have nonchalanted it like 1296 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 8: there was nothing. I'm like, this is, man, I tell 1297 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 8: you what, just the ultimate act of selflessness. Man, I 1298 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 8: don't I don't think it gets any better than that. 1299 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 8: So hats off to Billy. She is the real hero 1300 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 8: of all of this. Man, that's just absolutely fantastic. And man, 1301 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 8: I'm blown. I'm that that's just that. Shit kills me, Man, 1302 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 8: really kills me. 1303 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 7: Blows my mind, you know. And I know if I 1304 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 7: ever had a kidney problem, John would probably donate his 1305 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 7: kidney to me. No I would, can I can I 1306 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 7: put you down for that, because yes you can. 1307 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 5: Let me talk to Chris. 1308 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 2: But it's interesting, candidly, as an identical twin, a monos 1309 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 2: i gotic identical twin, I've thought a lot about organ 1310 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 2: donation and the possibility of giving my twin brother. More 1311 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 2: than likely he'll be give me an organ. 1312 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 8: But uh, we'll see you thought about giving him an organ. 1313 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 8: Just make sure his diet's on point every day. Yeah, 1314 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 8: keep that guy healthy. 1315 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 2: John, Well, you take care of yourself. Thanks for the 1316 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 2: extended time. That was a spirited red long a minute 1317 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 2: today and we'll talk to you early next week, buddy, 1318 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 2: when I get back from a Prio Dejaneira. 1319 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, safe trip, buddy. I will talk to you guys 1320 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 8: next week. Kenny a look and show up and listen. 1321 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 8: When you were in borssed and you were always my hero. 1322 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 8: You were you were a hero in New York. So 1323 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 8: I don't care what this guy says about. 1324 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 5: I know that. 1325 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks, Thanks, take it easy, guys. 1326 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 2: All right, Dad is going to do it. But rest 1327 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 2: assured we're doing too. Two episodes a week now, so 1328 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 2: we're back in your life probably thursday. I will be 1329 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: in Rio at that point in time. 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Kenny Florian Martial Arts dot com is 1338 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 2: live for all of your mixed martial arts and jiu 1339 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,439 Speaker 2: jitsu needs and our Brazil designs. One more sleep merch 1340 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 2: can be had at millions dot co. We are back 1341 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 2: later this week. We'll get into UFC two eighty six 1342 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 2: predictions and excuse me, we will get into UFC two 1343 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 2: eighty six, the trilogy between Leon Edwards and Kamar Usman 1344 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 2: and predictions for UFC two eighty three to share a 1345 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Versus Hill coming up Saturday night live on pay per view. 1346 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 2: With that, thank you to our guests, Ray Longo, Matt 1347 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: the Steamroll of Arbola. We will talk to you guys 1348 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 2: later this week. For producer Cody Marilyn Ken Flom John Amsan, 1349 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 2: so long for now, talk to you a few days. 1350 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 2: Until then you'll le