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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I

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Speaker 1: hope everyone had a good time over the weekend watching

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Speaker 1: not just football, but the one hundred and first annual

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Speaker 1: New York Baseball Writers Association Dinner that was broadcast live

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Speaker 1: here on the Foul Territory Network the Fouls Territory Channel.

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Speaker 1: And now we resume our normal work schedule. Now we

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Speaker 1: start off today with something that came out over the

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Speaker 1: weekend that was a bit of a surprise, the Jose

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Speaker 1: Ramirez extension with the Cleveland Guardians seven years, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy five million, with seventy million in deferrals. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez wasn't up until after next year, if I'm

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Speaker 1: not mistaken, so there was no urgency here. But Ramirez

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Speaker 1: over the years has been quite vocal about wanting to

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Speaker 1: stay in Cleveland, wanting to finish his career in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: He's comfortable there, he likes it there. So we talk

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Speaker 1: all the time in our sport about how little, small

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Speaker 1: markets can never keep their players. Obviously, in many cases

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Speaker 1: that is true. It's not always true though. Now Ramirez

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Speaker 1: in his case, has taken below market value. But we've

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Speaker 1: also seen Corbyn Carroll remain on a long term deal

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Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Royals. Ramirez obviously is an older

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Speaker 1: player compared to those guys, and this deal will take

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Speaker 1: him through his age forty season through twenty thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, by then, I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez will be the same player he is today.

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Speaker 2: But this is a player.

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Speaker 1: Who, in my estimation, is a likely Hall of Famer, honestly,

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Speaker 1: end up the franchise leader for the Guardians in a

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Speaker 1: number of categories. But beyond that, here's the thing that

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Speaker 1: stands out to me and really distinguishes Jose Ramirez from a.

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Speaker 1: Seven top five MVP finishes. Seven that's astounding. Now, he's

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Speaker 1: his dominance over the years. Just a wonderful player, a

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Speaker 1: You see the cap or the helmet flying off. Zach

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Speaker 1: to watch. He is an excellent player. He's the heart

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Speaker 1: through the age of forty. Other news over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: To be it for him. Well not so fast.

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Speaker 1: Darvish's agent, Joel Wolf, immediately issued a statement saying nothing

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Speaker 1: is resolved. Then Darvish followed with a statement. You see

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Speaker 1: this one is a complicated case. You, Darvish is a

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Speaker 2: He indeed is willing to sacrifice money.

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Speaker 1: He did that a couple of years ago with the

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Speaker 2: He is injured, and an.

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Speaker 1: Injured player who is covered by insurance, as I would

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Speaker 1: So the story was premature in the San Diego Union Tribune. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: They're kind of a long way from that. Right now.

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Speaker 1: Conversations have to take place with the Union, with Major

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Speaker 1: And obviously the Giants are still looking. They're in a

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Speaker 1: to do some more things. They want to get one

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Speaker 1: and that's how they got him. But back to the Giants.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are a team that really has had a

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Speaker 1: Giants inherited that contract. So they've got those players under contract.

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Speaker 1: So where do they go from here? As Andrew Baggerly mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Athletics Big Board, we had a top fifty. Here's who's left.

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Speaker 1: Frobert Valdez at five a, Johannio Swarez at sixteen, Zach

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Speaker 1: looking at Casey Schmidt right now. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: The part of the show I talk about something happening

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Speaker 1: It was Brady Anderson and Kurt Schilling for Mike Bodeker.

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Speaker 1: right to it. First question comes from armand is amazing

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Speaker 1: grilling Ken. Who has a better chance to return to

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Speaker 1: I would say Gallen has a better chance of going

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Speaker 2: Do you agree? And that's with C.

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Speaker 1: Trent rosecrants that Elie dela Cruz could be a billion

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons they were willing to trade Cabrera and.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Weathers to make room for those guys.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out, but as of now,

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Speaker 1: I don't expect al Contra to go all right. One

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Speaker 1: more question this comes from Letsheva Jones, who asks Ken

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Speaker 1: on paper, are Reds better than Cubbies?

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Speaker 2: On paper?

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Speaker 1: No, they are not better than the Cubs. The Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Reds are not. They're still looking for at least one

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Speaker 1: more hitter. Austin Hayes has been on their radar. A

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Speaker 1: oohaner Suarez has been on their radar. As I wrote

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Speaker 1: with Will Salmon last week, one problem for the Reds

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Speaker 1: has been the lack of clarity on their TV deal.

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Speaker 1: They just don't know exactly what that's going to look

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Speaker 1: like going forward. They're hoping for some more answers this week.

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Speaker 1: It's a complicated thing. They're one of nine teams in

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Speaker 1: that mainstream group that is affiliated with that network, and

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Speaker 1: that network is having all kinds of financial issues, so

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Speaker 1: they need some resolution there and then they'll presumably go

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Speaker 1: forward and get another hitter. I don't know exactly how

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Speaker 1: it's going to play out for them, but on paper

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Speaker 1: right now, while they're starting, pitching is very good, and

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Speaker 1: while their bullpen should be okay, I just don't see

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Speaker 1: them quite as strong as the Cubs. All right, with that,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for watching, for listening, however,

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Speaker 1: you enjoy our show. Foul Territory is coming up next

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Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern.

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Speaker 2: It's Jim Bowden and Alex Call.

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Speaker 1: They'll be the guest, joining Todd Frasier, Arik Kratz and

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Speaker 1: Scop Braun.

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Speaker 2: I guess AJ can't work more than two days in

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Speaker 2: a row.

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Speaker 1: We're back Thursday at twelve thirty Eastern with a lama

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Speaker 1: us So joining us.

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Speaker 2: Of course, talk to you then.

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Speaker 1: Have a great week everyone,