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Speaker 1: This is our lives, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat, thurdieth, twenty twenty and my screen

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Speaker 2: work in there. Hi. Everyone, this is Morning Combat. My

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Speaker 2: from CBS Sports. The gentleman on the other side of

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Speaker 2: and a whole lot more. My friend and yours. It

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Speaker 2: is Brian Campbell BC. How are you good, sir.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I've been eating ham leftovers for every

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Speaker 1: and this COVID Thanksgiving and I'm still giving thanks Luke,

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Speaker 1: but that's really a personal issue. Luke, how are you,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing quite well. You know what I'll say this PC.

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Speaker 2: My daughter woke up today at eight thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 1: don't understand myself, how Showtime can't figure out this international

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Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of rumors out there in the comment

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Speaker 1: The more that this show expands, blows up, takes over

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Speaker 1: people's lives. You don't need those other people, Okay. I

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Speaker 2: Luke. You jerk and multiple times a week, multiple times

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Speaker 1: What other show is hitting you this hard, okay, if you,

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Speaker 2: If you want to try showtime, you certainly can thirty

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Speaker 1: Friday at nine Eastern and Pacific? Guys, this is a

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Speaker 1: like you were, But I completely disagree. How were you

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like I can't go in there until you

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Speaker 1: But okay, I think they thought it would be an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't want you to be the guy

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Speaker 2: Now you've never heard me say, wow, you know what's

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Speaker 2: I did not like the crowd noise. Listen, if you're

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Speaker 2: I loved every part of that. These boxing broadcasts no

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Speaker 2: Here they are? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The camera angles of this broadcast were atrocious. Yes, don't

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Speaker 1: Look, luckily we had an award winning documentary director ready

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Speaker 2: Let's come. Let's stay on track. We'll come back to

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Speaker 2: a certainly debate that you had about that. But when

434
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Speaker 2: you got guys in your fifties, wasn't a failure. But

435
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 2: the degree of error that you can make is very

436
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Speaker 2: small before shit goes south very quickly. You have to

437
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 2: be a little bit careful about this market. You just

438
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: can't go fullhead, you know, diving into it. Let's it's

439
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 2: embrace it. But let's be careful about it.

440
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Speaker 1: Well, I think you got to realize a couple of things.

441
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a this will spawn spinoffs because they

442
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 1: had success. They also had, by the way, Mike Tyson

443
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: who hadn't fought in fifteen years and we never thought

444
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: he would fight again. I understand that. But two, there

445
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: is a middle ground to what you're teasing that. I

446
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 1: think we realize that two minute rounds is perfect for

447
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,919
Speaker 1: all guys. I think, you know, bigger gloves is perfect.

448
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: I think eight rounds might even be too much, you

449
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You might want to schedule these

450
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Speaker 1: as like a four rounder and give them more incentive

451
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Speaker 1: to kind of go out there and throw. But with

452
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Speaker 1: that said, California State Athletic Commission has to realize that

453
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Speaker 1: within those four rounds, there may be cuts, there may

454
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Speaker 1: be knockdowns and knockouts. It's fighting, okay, Let's make sure

455
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Speaker 1: these guys are checked up physically, that they're okay to

456
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Speaker 1: be in there. They agree to be in there, let's

457
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Speaker 1: get it so where Look if somebody is knocked.

458
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Speaker 2: Down, but it was not legally, it wasn't fighting, it

459
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: was it was sparring, which is different.

460
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Speaker 1: I don't want these to be real fights, and I

461
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Speaker 1: don't want Vinnie Paz judging at all. I mean, he

462
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: gave Roy every single round, Like come on, like come on.

463
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Speaker 1: That's the thing. I tweeted out how absurd this draw was,

464
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Speaker 1: just from the standpoint that like, obviously Mike won it,

465
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Speaker 1: and I know the wind doesn't matter anyway, but like,

466
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Speaker 1: it's so lame that we actually took the time to

467
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Speaker 1: put judges in there, and and Chad Dawson scored it

468
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Speaker 1: even the clan like that's like, dude, that's like seven

469
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Speaker 1: rounds to one Tyson under any circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I hit up the commission yesterday because and let

471
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Speaker 2: me just preface up front and say, they said no comment,

472
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Speaker 2: So take what you want from that. But I was like,

473
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Speaker 2: why would the celebrity judges all of a sudden just

474
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Speaker 2: go with a draw in the end? Why would they

475
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Speaker 2: do that? And the answer, I think again, commission didn't

476
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Speaker 2: say one way or the other. But my belief is

477
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Speaker 2: that if you look at just the way they were

478
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Speaker 2: messaging about this, I don't think they liked the promoter

479
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: tried to like muddy the waters about what the stakes

480
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 2: actually were and what the boxers were weren't going to

481
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Speaker 2: do and I think he kind of leaned on to

482
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Speaker 2: be like, don't fuck around.

483
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Speaker 1: You know there is anybody who wasn't following this, like

484
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Speaker 1: up from a pr sense Luke. They were sending out

485
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Speaker 1: emails like the days of just changing everything, like we

486
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Speaker 1: respect the California Commission, but there is going to be

487
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Speaker 1: a real fight, just so you know. And then there's

488
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Speaker 1: like here, uh, DraftKings the official sponsor of this. There's

489
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Speaker 1: not even be having odds anywhere. Like it was just

490
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: like it was a it was a mess.

491
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Speaker 2: It was weird. It was weird, and that nebulous status

492
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: is going to make it hard to promote because remember

493
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: Belatore did old guy fights, but hey, those were actual

494
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: licensed fights. There was a winner, there was a loser,

495
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: there was submissions, there were knockouts, it was all of that.

496
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Speaker 2: You didn't get any of that by virtue of the age.

497
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Speaker 2: The one thing I will say about the music numbers

498
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Speaker 2: and then we'll move on to some different topics here

499
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Speaker 2: I didn't love them BC. But here's the thing. It's

500
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Speaker 2: sort of the same kind of situation with Snoop. If

501
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: you're gonna have this wasn't fight Circus, which they filmed

502
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: in Thailand. It wasn't nearly that, but it was kind

503
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Speaker 2: of like the distant cousin of that. If you're gonna

504
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Speaker 2: go in that direction. I do not think it is

505
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Speaker 2: the end of the world to put in music numbers.

506
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Speaker 2: But I always go back to affliction, and there was like, oh,

507
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: we got these fights and then out of nowhere, we

508
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Speaker 2: have a fucking mega death concert. And I got roasted.

509
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Speaker 2: At the time, I was the editor in chief of

510
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Speaker 2: Bloody Elbow. I got roasted for saying, what the fuck

511
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Speaker 2: was that all about. Turns out it was so expensive

512
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Speaker 2: among all many other bad financial choices that they made,

513
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Speaker 2: that it helped sink the whole shit. But uh, I

514
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Speaker 2: don't I don't mind people who are not doing on

515
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: brand stuff doing off brand stuff. But I caution everyone

516
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: being like, this is what Showtime, and this is what

517
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: ESPN and this is what Fox need to start thinking about.

518
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: Fuck that want no part of it there unless it

519
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: is much more carefully and nimbly done.

520
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Speaker 1: This will be part of our transition to the next topic.

521
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Speaker 1: But I think it's worth being said. Same debate we

522
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Speaker 1: had after the Logan paul Ksi thing. There is a

523
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Speaker 1: market for celebrity fights, for old guy fights, for YouTube fights, whatever,

524
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Speaker 1: but I would prefer they are kept separate from real boxing.

525
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: It's okay if you put some young, real fighters on

526
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Speaker 1: the undercard, but I don't need a doubleheader of like,

527
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, Ryan Garcia in a real fight and KSI,

528
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Speaker 1: you know, no, keep it separate. And again on the

529
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Speaker 1: old guy fight thing, you have to understand, there's a

530
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Speaker 1: small strike zone. So as we see them, eventually there's

531
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Speaker 1: gonna be a shitty one where guys aren't in shape

532
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: and it's just gross. And then eventually somebody's gonna get

533
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Speaker 1: knocked cold and we're gonna question and whether we should

534
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 1: do this. Luke, There'll be a short window where this

535
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: will be viable. Let's hope in that short window we

536
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: can make some fun ones. Look, Oscar del Hoya wants

537
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: to come back. Stop calling out Triple G. You should

538
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: be fighting other old guys. You should get Trinidad on

539
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: the horn and try to do that one. We would

540
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Speaker 1: care about that, or at least.

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Speaker 2: I would, okay, And then uh yeah, I think that's correct.

542
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: By the way, So as we move on to the

543
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: next topic, I think that Roy is definitely gonna fight

544
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva. I don't know when or how or whatever,

545
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 2: but do I think that is next? I absolutely think

546
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 2: that is next. You think Holyfield is next? Here's why

547
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: I say that. For Tyson he looks like shit, Holyfield does.

548
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: He does not look great. Tyson looked pretty good, and

549
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 2: then Roy for all intensive purposes, looked okay.

550
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the probably the outside of using

551
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Speaker 1: somebody different than boxing for you know, a circus factor.

552
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: The next real fight for Tyson that would probably sell

553
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: the most is the trilogy with Holyfield.

554
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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that, all right, So topic number two,

555
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: we go to the co main event. Here resident nineteen

556
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: eighties movie slash Dennis the Menace slash Rachel dolozol asshole

557
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: Jake Paul knocks out viciously Nate Robinson in whatever fucking

558
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: round it was. It doesn't really matter because the fight

559
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: should have been stopped about two more times before this.

560
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: He got viciously chaot okay BC afterwards NBA Twitter, I mean,

561
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: they roasted this guy like an absolute stuck. Their roasting

562
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: culture online is maybe worse than anyone else at any

563
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: other sport. But let me ask you this. I saw

564
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Speaker 2: people coming out Floyd this morning. I think our last

565
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Speaker 2: night on Instagram being like, you know, black athletes shouldn't

566
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: criticize other black athletes this way. I saw Megan Anderson,

567
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: who's the UFC Flyway seen me featherweight contender saying, you know,

568
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: if you've never gotten in there, you can't mock somebody BC.

569
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Speaker 2: I gotta say, I find all out to be bullshit,

570
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Like there's a you can decide what level of mockery

571
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: you can bring yourself to. But is Nate Robinson worthy

572
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Speaker 2: of mockery? Yeah?

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look like, do I respect the fighters

574
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: so much not to do it?

575
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

576
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: I respect the dangers of fighting so much not to

577
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: do it. But with that said, it's high risk, high reward.

578
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: That's why you get paid so much to be a fighter, Luke,

579
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: because you're going out there and you're risking not just

580
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: your health, you're risking public embarrassment. It is what it is.

581
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: It's why the Jordan crying meme got invented, especially in

582
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: this day and age. So I do I'm here to say, like,

583
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: thank you, Nate Robinson, thank you for having the balls

584
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: to take on this fight, and you know, having never

585
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: boxed before to confidently go in there and train and

586
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: then to go in there and try to win it

587
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: and go for it. And oh, by the way, the

588
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: worst case scenario of when you try that happen to you.

589
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: You got sent to hell. But guess what, Luke, I

590
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: think that clowning and meming has become so mainstream that

591
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: you have to separate it. It's not about making fun

592
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: of him for doing it. It's about that he took

593
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Speaker 1: the big risk. And oh, by the way, if he

594
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: would have knocked out you know, Jake Paul, he would

595
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Speaker 1: have got the big reward. He took the big risk

596
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: and lost. I don't look at it as we're making

597
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: fun of him and shaming him. We're kind of making

598
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: fun of the moment. He put himself in a moment

599
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: where it could go badly. It went very badly. He's

600
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: gotta you know, he's gotta suffer the shame, you know.

601
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's kind of like when you're when

602
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: you had a few drinks and you walk out and

603
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: you on the sidewalk with your friends and a lot

604
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: of these videos that end up on have you seen

605
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: this shit? And you're like, see those two poles, I

606
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: bet I can run across one and jump all the

607
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: other over the other, and your friends are like, hold on,

608
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: I'll bet you ten bucks you can't, but let me

609
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: get my phone ready. You're you're risking the chance that

610
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna get crossed on that thing and end up

611
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: on Have you seen this shit? And if you do,

612
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: you deserve to be so I don't feel bad clowning

613
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: the moment here with also putting out there. Thank you

614
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Nate Robinson for going for it, because if you would

615
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: have went out there and was like tentative, we would

616
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: have had a crappy fight. He went, he went all

617
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: in luke, and he got sent to hell. And that

618
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: happens in life. Okay.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Also, this might be a moment to reflect on,

620
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: like what behavior you decide to engage in a public way.

621
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Speaker 2: Like by the time the bell rang, it looked to

622
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: me like he legitimately I mean, not knowing how to

623
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: box this one thing, like do anything. I mean, he

624
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 2: was running into punches, running into clinches. I mean that's

625
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 2: how he got knocked out, right. He was running to

626
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: try and reclinch with the guy after already being separated

627
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: from another clinch he had just ad I mean, he

628
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: looked like a deer in headlights from the word go.

629
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure he looked to be physically in good shape.

630
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: And we know he's an athlete, so I understand there

631
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: was probably a degree of training involved. But Jesus Christ, man,

632
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: do you want to assume risk for these kinds of things.

633
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: This is why a lot of people don't assume that

634
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: kind of risk, because unless you're truly ready for it,

635
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: super bad shit is going to happen to you. That's

636
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: just the knockout itself. But you know.

637
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: That Wilenda guy, the flying the nick will end a

638
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: flying guy who.

639
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: Crosses all the volcanoes on the high wire.

640
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: Like, eventually, that guy's gonna set up the high wire

641
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: with no ned across the Grand Canyon, which I think

642
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: he may have already done that one, and he's gonna

643
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: trip and he's gonna get crouched on the wire and

644
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna roll off and try to hang on and

645
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: then fall to his death. And you know what, Luke,

646
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: people are gonna clown the shit out of him. And

647
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Speaker 1: even though it'll be savage because he probably will die

648
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: at the end of it. Dude, you signed up for this,

649
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like you make TV

650
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: specials around this.

651
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: No one was at gunpoint and was like walk across

652
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: the wire, will Linda. This dude goes out there on TV,

653
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: make sure that the Discovery channel is there so they

654
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: can witness every part of it, and the whole time

655
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: he's like, thank you, Jesus, Oh Jesus, thank you, dude.

656
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: If you take the l there, we're gonna we're gonna

657
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: use that. That's just life. But to me, it's like

658
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: when you want to police fandom a little bit. I mean,

659
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: I understand if you really feel like people are in

660
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: the wrong expressing some kind of concern about it, but

661
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: you're trying to rake the ocean here. The guy signed

662
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: up for something, by the way, was compensated for it financially,

663
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much at this point, but certainly

664
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: not do this for free. He did this of his

665
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: own volition. He was totally unprepared for it in terms

666
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: of what was necessary to do well, and paid the cost.

667
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: This is what sports fans do. I under nderstand that

668
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: the shame and the embarrassment of it in many ways

669
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: is probably overwhelming and to a degree moderating what people

670
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: say is is, you know, in good taste. Fuck the taste, dude.

671
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what people are going to do,

672
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: expecting fans and media and anybody else to not notice

673
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: how awkward and bad and awful and then to a

674
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: degree kind of hilarious at all is provided he's okay,

675
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: he seems to be okay. Trying to regulate that, that's

676
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: just trying to censor opinions you don't like. You can't

677
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: do that.

678
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick. There was a debate in what they

679
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: made in that comin event, because the original report was

680
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: that both Paul and Nate Robinson made six hundred thousand each,

681
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: and then another report from the California Commission said they

682
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: only made sixty grand each, which didn't make a lot

683
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: of sense. But to the Megan Anderson point, something I'll

684
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: talk about very briefly later is that Daniel Dubois heavyweight

685
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: boxing match against Joe Joyce. Duboi his eye was swollen shot,

686
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: he got hit with a jab on it, and eventually

687
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: he took a knee and quit, and there was a

688
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: small market of people going, oh, he wasn't ready for

689
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: this moment. He quit. Look, that's where the Megan Anderson

690
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: comment comes in, where you're like, don't criticize a fighter

691
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: for who broke his eye for saying I'm gonna fight

692
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: another day. That is the line where somebody like me

693
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't come on here and be like, oh, dubois a whip. No,

694
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: Dubois was in a real fight and his eye close

695
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: and broke, and he had nerve damage and he decided

696
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: enough was enough. Respect, I got nothing bad to say

697
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: about it. Don't cross that over to where somebody signed

698
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: up to fight a YouTuber and that YouTuber knocked them cold. Okay,

699
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: that's a totally different story.

700
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you're on a circusy kind of event, in

701
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: the comin event, you fought a human just bag of

702
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: fucking buckles and cheeseburgers. This guy is and he knocks

703
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: you out like dude, and you're fine, Like if he

704
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: had been severely injured. Okay, Well that would have been

705
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: totally different too, because now, well I guess with the

706
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: nick will Enda thing, there probably would still be some

707
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: measure of that, but it'd be a little bit less tasteful.

708
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out, you sign up for something like that,

709
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: you walked out of the ring in your own volition.

710
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, you were wearing Nick's colors like, oh dude,

711
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: you were just begging for the l But it brings

712
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: us a little bit to Jake Paul. I gotta tell

713
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: you these Paul brothers they have I said this on

714
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: my personal YouTube channel last night. They have such a

715
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: good gimmick BC, because they're total pricks, right. They make

716
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: you feel like they're the dumbest people on earth, and

717
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: they're definitely very, very stupid, But they are smart enough

718
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: to realize if I make you feel like I'm stupid,

719
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: and I get you to sign up for something that

720
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: you feel like is way easier than it is, and

721
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm actually a little bit more experienced than you might realize,

722
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: I can just keep taking candy from a baby over

723
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: and over and over again. If there is any lesson

724
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: from the logan paul KSI fight and then this one,

725
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna be doing this basically as long as they

726
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: as they want to. This is what I don't understand

727
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: BC about CM punk. Dude, you did not need to

728
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: be fighting guys who were in the UFC. What a

729
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: total mistake that was. You should have been fighting Uber drivers,

730
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: fucking whoever, somebody who sucked balls because you probab we

731
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: could have gotten a nice one if they had set

732
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: it up just right, and you look like a million

733
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: dollars and you probably would have gotten not the same

734
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: UFC money, pretty fucking good money.

735
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: Well well, first of all, Luke, thank you for saving

736
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: your your best, first and hottest takes for Morning Combat

737
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: rather than putting them on your personal channel there. Uh first, Luke, will.

738
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: Use fucking will you fucking stop today? Uh with this

739
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: fucking me against you ship? Come on, please, I don't

740
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: have sorry, just.

741
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: I'd saved my best takes for morning Combat.

742
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: You did an instant reaction BC. It doesn't make any

743
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: difference and will not her viewership today. I promise, please continue.

744
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, look I bleed, I bleeve mka Luke. You

745
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: can't take that away from me, all right, you can't

746
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: make me thinks. Okay, okay, what's your I was gonna

747
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: say that, you know I said it as well in

748
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: my Morning Combat branded instant analysis that you know you're

749
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna hate them, and you should hate them, but they're

750
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: not sloppy celebrity fighters. They're they're they're young and big

751
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: and athletic, and they're taking it seriously. So when he

752
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: calls out this is Jake Paul when he calls out

753
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor and and uh Dylan Danis. Now, look, I

754
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: do think obviously there's a weight gap because Jake Paul

755
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: fought at one ninety counter fights at you know, one

756
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: fifty five or one seventy. But uh, you know, I

757
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: think there's a market to make those fights if we

758
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: can make a catchweight bout, if one of those guys

759
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: were interested, and I think eventually you'll get what you want,

760
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: which is a Paul getting sent to hell by a

761
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: guy who can actually fight, who actually comes from fighting.

762
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: But you're right, Luke, under the grounds of this, I'm

763
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna keep fighting rappers and YouTubers and actors and ex

764
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: ath I mean, you're these guys aren't bad and you

765
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: and you can't take that away from them. They they

766
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: they work the jab, they respect the sport. They're not,

767
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, the same barstool Appalachia Brawlin. You know this

768
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: is legit, Luke. Okay, So look, hopefully you can bounce

769
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: back from that comment I just made and then one

770
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: day forgive me that time that public transportation got me

771
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: late for our drinking episode, because you're still holding that

772
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: one too, Luke, you're still sitting.

773
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: I forgive you, but you need to understand anything that

774
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: goes on my personal channel does not in any way

775
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: hurt this brand. In fact, it only booies it. But okay,

776
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: that's what people think rationally say. Any final thoughts on

777
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: the Jones and Tyson pay per view, anything we didn't

778
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: get to that deserves to be mentioned about whether it

779
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: was good, whether it was bad, or whether there's a future.

780
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. We talk a lot about

781
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: UFC commentary because you know, some guys are really good

782
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: at it, but they're really good at it in the

783
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: traditional sense. Yes, you got a guy like DC and

784
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: sometimes Bisping who can do the funny scream Thug Rose,

785
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: but we really like the Paul Felders, the dominant cruises

786
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: who can really break down what you're watching. I think

787
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: there's room for Atasignia on these broadcasts if he wants

788
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: to remember when Roy Jones started his broadcasting career with HBO,

789
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: he was right in the midst of his prime. You know,

790
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: he got better after retirement. But look, I think if

791
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: we learned anything from Saturday, it wasn't perfect from Matasignia,

792
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: but it was pretty damn good. Enough a mix of

793
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: entertainment and actual analysis where I think UFC should watch

794
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: that and go, hey, maybe maybe we could be doing more.

795
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: With this guy. Yeah. The only issue for him that

796
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: he's up against is if you think about what's the

797
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: common denominator for all of the whether this is play

798
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: by play or whether this is a color. They either

799
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: all live in the United States or the UK. That's it.

800
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: They don't Maybe is there any in Canada I'm not

801
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: thinking of. Maybe just think about it. Even Bisping lives

802
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: in Orange County. Other two John Gooden and Dan Hardy

803
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: who live in the UK, But that's it. They're all

804
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: kind of available to be where they need to be.

805
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: When you live in New Zealand the majority of the time,

806
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: it's just hard to be accessible. But you're right, I

807
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: thought he did really well. That's I don't know if

808
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: that was his first time doing it, but was this

809
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: first time like on a major showcase. I've been saying

810
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: that I think he's one of our smartest fighters and

811
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: his ability to articulate that was pretty good. But the

812
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: geographic limitations, I think, for the time being anyway, are

813
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: going to make him as a staple or whatever, like

814
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: a Felder version a little bit difficult for him. That's

815
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: sort of my two cents on that.

816
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: That's fair.

817
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of UFCBC, let's go to that. We'd love

818
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: to get your opinion on this, because I would not

819
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: call you an Anthony Smith hater. That is not fair.

820
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: I would label you and I wonder what you make

821
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: of it, as in Anthony Smith skeptic a little bit.

822
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: So he fights Devin Clark. We were supposed to have

823
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: this Lewis and Blade's main event, and then I texted you,

824
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: what was it Friday or Saturday? I texted you the

825
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: fight was off because they went I think Blades got

826
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: the rona, so Smith got elevated to the main event.

827
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: They made it five rounds. He made short work of

828
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: Devin Clark. That's all I'll say. Throw it to you, BC.

829
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Your reaction to Anthony Smith's quick submission.

830
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: Win well quickly on the UH. On the UH, Derek Lewis,

831
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: check out my interview with him and MK it's still

832
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: very worth your time and funny Luke he called it.

833
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: In that interview. He said he was supposed to be

834
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: in the out of Sonia fight for Tyson Jones that

835
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: spot as announcer, and uh, he said, you know, maybe

836
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: I won't tell them that I can't do it because

837
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: the guy blades will get rona And he did. All right,

838
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: you said, I'm an Anthony Smith skeptic. I think I'm

839
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: an Anthony Smith truther, or at least thought I was

840
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: up to this point. Luke, Look, he had a a

841
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: the kind of comeback opponent you would need after going

842
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: up to the highest level a few times and not

843
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: being successful. And he looked frickin' fantastic. I have to

844
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: give him that. Yes, in this game where we are

845
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: sometimes very harsh on these guys and you're only as

846
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: good as your last fight, and everything is in the moment,

847
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: because you know, we're not fighting every week. So it's

848
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: sort of based on that. He dispelled a lot of

849
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: the fears or the misgivings we had about him. He

850
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: didn't take any damage. He was great in taking down

851
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: his opponent early and then reworking things on the ground

852
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: and then getting that sub seemingly out of nowhere. This

853
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: was a strong performance. This does not, necessarily, though, fix

854
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: all of those things about what he's going to be

855
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: like against the elite, because this was supposed to be

856
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: a you know, a mid card fight that got bumped

857
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: up because of Smith's name. But yes, I'm here to

858
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: tell you, Luke, this is in the right direction. Keep

859
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: going in this direction. I think Smith to a degree

860
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: does need to get out of his head a little bit.

861
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: And I think this may have been the direction in

862
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: that not listen to people like me, not listen to

863
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: the haters. And also, Luke, not go back to back

864
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: to back bangers. Sometimes if you take a hard l

865
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: and you get some damage in there, you do have

866
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: to take time and recover. And I think this was

867
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: obviously exactly what he needed. And this division is not

868
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly deep. He's still right there, Luke. Jerry's still out

869
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: if he can do any better than he's done in

870
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: the past. But yes, come on, let's give him the

871
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: credit he deserves.

872
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: This was perfect, perfect, Yeah, I mean I do think.

873
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: I do think I didn't even realize. Did you know

874
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: that Devin Clark had that terrible loss of his stepmother

875
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: like a week prior to the fight. I did not

876
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: know that. I don't know how I missed it, but

877
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know it. So you know how ready this

878
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: guy was for that experience. We've talked about it before.

879
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: Sometimes it makes them altra dangerous and sometimes it makes them,

880
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, not dangerous at all. And where he fit

881
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: on that spectrum is really really hard to know. He

882
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: came out looking for blood. He landed a nice hard

883
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: shot on Anthony Smith. Smith got the takedown, had his

884
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: back briefly, and then use it to well. He eventually

885
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: got rolled into guard. And then to me like easily

886
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: set up the triangle. I mean, it's funny. Anthony Smith's

887
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: more memorable wins, I mean, I guess it depends on

888
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: your perspective. He's got the two wins his hands over

889
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: Showgun and Rashad, But to me, like the more credible

890
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: wins like against gust of sin or against Uzdemir and

891
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: now Clark, they came from his jiu jitsu. Now he's

892
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: had problems on the ground with Smith. He couldn't excuse me,

893
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: with Jones, couldn't get a whole lot going rackets, too big,

894
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: too strong, it didn't really work. And then to Shara

895
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: is obviously, you know, just a tremendous, tremendous fighter on

896
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: the ground, plus has amazing ground and pound. But I

897
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: do think that Smith, you know, to me, I said

898
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: it on Friday. If you want to say that he

899
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: overperforms or performs sometime and we kind of you know,

900
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: the wins will hold up over time. I also kind

901
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: of feel like he underperforms, which is to say, whatever

902
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: ability he's at is certainly up for some debate. No

903
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: one really knows because he is coming off of those losses.

904
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: This was a win, but it wasn't a win against

905
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: a super elite guy. But he did it in a

906
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: way that a super elite guy would. He made it

907
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: look that kind of easy. And so to me, I

908
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: feel like when he is performing at his best and

909
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: when he is really locked in and he has the

910
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: right game plan going to the ground just because you're

911
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: good there, it doesn't mean you always should. But it

912
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: made sense here against Devin Clark because there was a

913
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: huge skill gap. He to me, is very much clearly

914
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: part still of that elite group. Now where in that

915
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: group you want to put him, I don't know. I

916
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: think it's a fair point. You make me see, can

917
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: he do better than he's already done? I don't know.

918
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 2: I think these are just unknowable questions and they're certainly

919
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: the right ones to raise. But I hope that people

920
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: saw this and saw what I saw, which is that

921
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: there are certainly levels to this game, and there's levels

922
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: to this division, and wherever you want to place Anthony Smith, fine,

923
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: but it needs to be in the highest bracket. Wherever

924
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: you want to put him in that bracket. Okay, but

925
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: this is a guy who has the ability with a

926
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: lot of different ways to win. He is hugely experienced,

927
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: and when he's got the right game plan and the

928
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: right mental frame of mind, he is capable of beating

929
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: some of your favorite fighters and maybe even more than that.

930
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's what we saw on Saturday, and.

931
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: Maybe Lukey can take this performance in the ease of it.

932
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: Now.

933
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: Look, you know, sometimes it's the opponent that makes the

934
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: ease of it, but the ease of what he did

935
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: on the ground. And look at what somebody like Glover

936
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: to Share has done to sort of re energize and

937
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: rebrand himself. Glover went as far as he can go

938
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: just being a tough guy with good takedown defense and

939
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: a knockout punch, but really doubled down and worked hard

940
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: on his ground game to build longevity. Maybe Luke, that

941
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: is something for Smith, because I think you'll agree with me,

942
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: he could he takes too much damage against the elites,

943
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: And the problem is he can take a lot of damage.

944
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: So why that becomes a problem is you can sometimes

945
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: lean on that to hang around fights and try to

946
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: time by yourself time to win it, when a lot

947
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: of times you could end up just taking extra beatings. Right,

948
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: Like forty ounce budweiser, according to you, is just extra budweiser.

949
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: He's taken forty ounces with no freedom of assault in

950
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: there a bunch of times, Luke, if he can adjust enough,

951
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: try to rely more on his ground game, not get

952
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: wrung up as much and get into you know, even trading.

953
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a brighter path in the window. But again,

954
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: right first step to get back there. Thank you.

955
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Let's say I say, isn't that what Glover to Shera did.

956
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: Glover to Shera was like, I'm still going to strike

957
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: with you, but I'm also just didn't I just say, sorry,

958
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that part. Sorry I didn't hear that part.

959
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: But I think you're right. The only difference between the two,

960
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: if you did say that was Glover and Anthony, is

961
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: that Glover is a very good wrestler, and all this

962
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: kind of has been sort of a decent, forward moving,

963
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: offensive takedown machine. That's never necessarily been Anthony's strong suit.

964
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: So I don't think that's out of the question. He

965
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: could thread that needle, but he's got some work to

966
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: do to get there, all right. So point number four

967
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: BC because it wasn't the greatest UFC card we'd ever seen.

968
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: Anybody else from UFC Vegas fifteen here for point number four,

969
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: anybody else make an impression good, bad, indifferent? What do

970
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: you say? Uh?

971
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: You know, I like the fat white guy's brawling there

972
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: at heavyweight there, Parker Porter getting that unanimous decision win

973
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: over Josh Parisian. It wasn't pretty. It didn't tell you

974
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: a lot about the future. I enjoyed it for entertainment. Look,

975
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: this wasn't a deep card, obviously. It lost a lot

976
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: by losing the main event. No one else jumped out

977
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: at me except for the man who you're about to

978
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: fullate rightfully show a little bit, luke.

979
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: Yes. So the person I would highlight is gonna be

980
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: Miguel Biaza. Miguel Baza now ten and zero trains out

981
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: of MMA Masters. I interviewed him towards the end of

982
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: my run on Sirius XM. Nice guy, smart guy, He's

983
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican. I think he speaks fluent Spanish and English,

984
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: as you could tell, great athlete. I think even I

985
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: could be wrong about this, but I believe he wrestled collegiately.

986
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: But as you can tell, very well rounded, still very young,

987
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: and still putting the pieces of his game together. But

988
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: he can win on his feet. He's a good athlete.

989
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: You know, he's photogenic, he's smart, he makes good decisions,

990
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: and he is I won't say all action all the time,

991
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: but his fights don't ever appear to be quite boring.

992
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: He is somebody to keep your eye on. You look

993
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: at those of the next generation of fighters, and you

994
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: know who might be that guy on the rise? Now,

995
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: Baza twenty eight, a little bit older then you know

996
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: you would prefer him to be twenty through twenty four

997
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: because you know, you just have much more time to

998
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: fully round out his game. But he appears to be

999
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: on his way now. Is he championship level material? I

1000
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: don't know. And it sucks that he was on a

1001
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: card that got drowned out. I feel like it happens

1002
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: to him all the time, and he's in these like

1003
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: really great fights. If you've not seen him, you know,

1004
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: look him up on fight Pass you would be rewarded.

1005
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: But he just appears to have b see he checks

1006
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: a lot of boxes. Good black belt in jiu jitsu,

1007
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: can do everything he needs to. Still still rounding the

1008
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: corners in terms of development of his game, but exciting, smart, fun.

1009
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: Keep your eye on Migil Biaza.

1010
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: I was very underwoke to him until you told me

1011
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: to look out for him, and I watched went back

1012
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: and we watched this. Luke. I see a little custodian

1013
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: at Harvard. Goodwill hunting in him from the standpoint that

1014
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: he is doing a lot of high IQ thinking to

1015
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: set up his work. He's aggressively patient, which means he's

1016
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: constantly pushing the fight forward, but it's a constant sort

1017
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: of what is he gonna do for the right moment

1018
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: he reacts. He's big, he's quick, he's precise. I like

1019
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: him long term because of that. Luke very technical along

1020
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: with the athleticism. Looks like he could be a player.

1021
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: Because the guy he beat up on and got the

1022
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: submission to Kashi Sato, I mean he was game. He

1023
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: brought it, Luke, and I really like the poise I

1024
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: saw from your guy Miguel, you know, would you like

1025
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: to see him maybe against like a Jeff Neil sort

1026
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: of who you know, who could be the next guy

1027
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: in the top ten.

1028
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: Type of Yeah, that'd be interesting. Yeah, that'd be a

1029
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: great one. I'm not sure if he's quite ready for that,

1030
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: but maybe. Ah, who's that maniac Nico Price. I think

1031
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: that'd be a fun one. Nico Price. By the way,

1032
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: no comment. Are you gonna get to it later about

1033
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: Spike Carlyle and Rachel Ostovich.

1034
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: We gotta Racelatchovich a little bit later. My guy Spike

1035
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: Carlyle in his conspiracies, it didn't come through this time. Luke,

1036
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: all right, he's a TV fighter though, okay.

1037
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: He is a TV fighter in every sense of the word.

1038
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: All Right, So let's end on this for our big

1039
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: top five here BC. This is a weird one, dude,

1040
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: this is super weird one. So the NFL the season,

1041
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's in peril, but they're having

1042
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: some trouble reaching the finish line. We're having fight after

1043
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: fight after fight in UFC. And this was true before,

1044
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: but now it's like really getting bad. Being affected by

1045
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: COVID now the NFL has said what they might do

1046
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: is they might set up for the playoffs some like

1047
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: bubble territories, because as you saw, the NBA really thrived

1048
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: in that bubble format in Florida, and that was when

1049
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: the pandemic wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. Granted,

1050
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: treatment is better now, but the sort of widespread community

1051
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: transmission is really a problem. BC there will reports over

1052
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: the weekend that Tamaiev comes out Chamaiev might have gotten it.

1053
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: His team says no, but the reporting is from a

1054
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: pretty legitimate place. But still you can imagine, like what

1055
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: if Connor gets it before a pay per view or whatever.

1056
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: Should the UFC and or other sports organizations be doing

1057
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: more inside of a bubble format or maybe some other

1058
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: idea to keep sports safe because as things are getting

1059
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: a little bit out of hand.

1060
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are getting out of hand, and I think

1061
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: we've heard some people talk about this and it might

1062
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: be right. I believe you saw Javier Mendez put that

1063
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: tweet out of him and Abu Dhabi getting the the uh,

1064
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: the injection of the potential what do you call that?

1065
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: The vaccine? Look, I don't think it would be a

1066
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: bad idea for UFC, which already operates on Yas Island

1067
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: in an enclosed you know bubble there, you know, with

1068
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: with there's levels to the bubbles. But they got their

1069
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: own hotel, they got their own training, you know, abilities there,

1070
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: they got their own arena to maybe look ahead to

1071
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: the next few big cards. And I mean it's hard

1072
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: to just up and transport people and their coaches' lives, Luke,

1073
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: and just drop them in a foreign place and be like,

1074
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: why don't you just stay in that bubble for two

1075
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: months to make sure we can pull this off? But

1076
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: they might want to think about getting people there at

1077
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: least very early, because we've seen it work in the bubble.

1078
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: We're seeing any sort of sports that are traveling, like

1079
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, on a regular basis, people are getting knocked

1080
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: down left and right. I mean, I think the Denver

1081
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Broncos is about to call Tim Tebow up to try

1082
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: to quarterback the next game, but four quarterbacks went down.

1083
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's getting out of hand. It's getting

1084
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: to the point, Luke, where you know, it's already a

1085
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: for every sport. It's already one of the craziest sort

1086
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: of footnote asterisk seasons you're ever gonna see because of

1087
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: the quarantine. Now when you're literally affecting the competition because

1088
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: some teams maybe at you know, you know, three quarters

1089
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: or half strength fight sports, it's obviously a little different,

1090
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: but yes, it could greatly affect business and really the

1091
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: playout the how these divisions play out in terms of

1092
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: the fights that are on the docket. UFC has been

1093
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: ahead of everybody. They've been smart. There's been a lot

1094
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: of great things going. You may want to go extra

1095
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: smart here, Luke. I don't know where we're at with

1096
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: the damn vack scenes. And if really we could just

1097
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: drop UFC in a bubble there on Yeas Island and

1098
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: everybody can get pricked with it and then everybody can

1099
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: be fine. But I don't want to see these fights

1100
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: fall apart. So they may want to figure out some plan, Luke,

1101
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: even if it's just making sure the fighters who are

1102
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: not always the best advocates for this type of stuff

1103
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: are really keeping things as close and tight. I mean, look,

1104
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: call pea pod of get stop and Shop to send

1105
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: you your groceries. You don't need any fighters going anywhere, Luke.

1106
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Where we can pass this around stay off Florida They

1107
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: don't wear masks in Florida, Luke, They just spread things

1108
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: left and right there. All right. I don't mean to

1109
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: get doctor Fauci on you, but it's a time right now, Luke,

1110
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: where shit's double triple and quadrupling down. We got to

1111
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: be extra careful. I don't want to go into what

1112
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: we were in March April. May right, You don't want

1113
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: to go into another complete lockdown where you and I

1114
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: are twillling our thumbs going you want to rewatch a

1115
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: fight and get drunk, because I think that's the only

1116
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: thing we're going to talk about for a while.

1117
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: It could be that way. Here is my best recommendation,

1118
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: such as they exist. I honestly don't know what you

1119
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: can do with Like the NFL's got options because those

1120
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: are employees. Those those players are employees. Here we have

1121
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: independent contractors. There's only so much you can get them

1122
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: to do. However, they are also business partners to some degree,

1123
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: so I think if it's a pay per view, you

1124
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: gotta have them quarantine a month out or something like that,

1125
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: three weeks out of a bare minimum, right and put

1126
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: them on a place like Fight Island where everyone there

1127
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: is for the most part pretty well screened and then

1128
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: you can sort of live and let live what you

1129
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: do for like you know, these these run of the

1130
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: mill fight night cards. I honestly don't know, dude. I've

1131
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: been telling I've been hearing stories about guys who in

1132
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: camp have been getting COVID not telling the public about it,

1133
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: which didn't necessarily need to. But they're in the middle

1134
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: of camp, they finished, you know, whatever sickness they get,

1135
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: and then go back to training because they need paychecks.

1136
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing that I've been told that has happened.

1137
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: So like how many guys are getting that and just

1138
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: not telling the public. Now, that doesn't mean they're necessarily

1139
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: spreading it. That's not the claim that I'm making. What

1140
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, you know what kind of health risks

1141
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: they're having to put themselves through, as you've seen with

1142
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 2: Cody Garbrandt or some others a Diego Costa for example,

1143
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: in La Liga. You know, to get to the finish

1144
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: line for a badly needed paycheck. I understand that, right,

1145
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: you got bills to pay. You need to fight totally.

1146
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: I I you know, you got to. You gotta make

1147
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: some assessments about But it's just it's just kind of crazy.

1148
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: So while I don't know what the solution is for

1149
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: every UFC show, I do feel like your Crown jewels

1150
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: one time a month, there probably is more that can

1151
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: be done to secure those for the health of the athletes,

1152
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: by the way, but also the health of the sport,

1153
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: and I think for the consumer demand as well.

1154
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: You gotta give Dana a lot of credit hearing company

1155
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: here on this, Luke. Before we even knew about COVID,

1156
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: they were trying to do a Luke Thomas. They were

1157
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: trying to build self sufficiency, right, and they did that

1158
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: with Fight Pass, where you know, if their TV deals

1159
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: fall apart, they can put a pay per view on

1160
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: tomorrow on Fight Pass. Still you shout them out for that.

1161
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about a UFC hotel in Vegas. I mean,

1162
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: maybe they end up having too, having the International Hub

1163
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: and Abu Dhabi on Yas Island and then doing something

1164
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: with the larger circle around the APEX facility in Vegas

1165
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: and just turning that into an Olympic village and having

1166
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: a hotel and you got the PC there and you

1167
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: got whatever. Luke. I mean, it's really to the point

1168
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: where you may have to do this also.

1169
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: Luke, It's a it's a serious question that you have

1170
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: to ask yourself, which is, you know, you can build

1171
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: a hotel and all those other things and have what's

1172
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: called vertical integration where you essentially control sort of every

1173
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: part of the industry from the distribution to the talent

1174
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: signing to whatever, to the housing and blah blah blah.

1175
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: You know, there's a question about how good that is

1176
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 2: for the industry overall. Okay, fair enough, but in times

1177
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: like these where if you had someone who had not

1178
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: pure vertical integration, but you know, had the ability to

1179
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: control and sustain the product, how much better is it

1180
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: for Emma to have that, you know, versus a more

1181
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: open ended scenario where the fighters that have more leverage

1182
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: and have more pay but you wouldn't have any of

1183
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: these other potential safeguards. It's a legitimate debate to be had.

1184
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks some breaking news into the morning Combat newsroom.

1185
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: Colby Covington has tweeted for the first time in three

1186
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: weeks since the Donald Trump lost the presidential election, and

1187
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: he shot on Nate Robinson and challenged Lebron James to

1188
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: a boxing match. Your thoughts, this is true? This really happened.

1189
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: This is true.

1190
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know, like we like we said, people wrote

1191
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: me and you but mostly me in the comments and

1192
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: the video we did like what's next for Colby Covington,

1193
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: you know, if Trump loses? And they didn't seem to

1194
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: understand the point, which was that we were not here

1195
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: to attack him. But if you go, if you push

1196
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 2: BC all your chips to the middle and you don't

1197
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: win the hand, there's a question about where how you

1198
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: get money for the bus fair home? Right, That's sort

1199
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: of a real legitimate thing to wonder. And I think

1200
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: now you're seeing him trying to find some way to

1201
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: continue it or pivot or you know, just figure out

1202
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: a way forward. I guess not the worst of ways.

1203
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1204
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Hey, look, I haven't talked to you since Thanksgiving? Did you?

1205
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: And Buela and and Uncle Pepe have a nice little

1206
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: get together.

1207
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: There they're in Colombia, but some other of my wife's

1208
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: family are here from Columbia and we had My wife

1209
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: made a tremendo lasagna and it was super good, super good.

1210
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Don't forget. We did a show on Friday, but we

1211
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: went back to the future to record it for the future.

1212
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: In the past with the jigawatts and Jay's and Jay's

1213
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: time machine. Yes, so wow, I'm glad. So when you

1214
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: say this ultimate, because lolazani is my favorite food. So

1215
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: what do you mean by this? You know, ultimately? What

1216
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: is what? What is extra on top of regular awesome lasagna?

1217
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: Well it was huge number one two. There's like ricotta

1218
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: cheese in it, and mozzarella and all different kinds yea.

1219
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: The ground beef was eight. The ground beef was eighty twenty,

1220
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: so it was it was sort of greasy, and then

1221
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: there was like all kinds of you know, genoa salami

1222
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 2: and whole bunch of other shit in there as well.

1223
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: It was. It was pretty fucking awesome.

1224
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: Can you mail me some, Luke? I mean seriously, this

1225
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: is great, Luke.

1226
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Tell you what, if you ever come down to

1227
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: the nation's capital, We'll make you some how about that.

1228
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: Maybe you and I can put our personal beefs behind

1229
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: us and break bread together. Our families would be nice.

1230
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: I don't have beef with you, You have beef with me.

1231
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: That's the way this goes, all right.

1232
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, Luke. I watched that documentary. You were

1233
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: very very judgmental of me, Luke.

1234
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: So and what were you fucking mother Teresa over there

1235
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: making the most amount of judgments of anyone I've ever seen,

1236
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: And that's when he made a documentary. Okay, look, I mean.

1237
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: Could the sauce is the boss Luke? I mean we

1238
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: have learned that.

1239
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: All right, you're your delusions of grandeur are quite hilarious.

1240
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: But with that in mind, it's time for the viewers

1241
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: to ask us questions. It's time for dms from dogs.

1242
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: All right, So first question BC just kind of gets

1243
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: to what we're talking about at dB Underscore Scott Underscore outlaw.

1244
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: Is anything more polarizing than people's love hate relationship for

1245
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg's commentary gigs.

1246
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was pretty universal that he was

1247
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: hilarious this time around. And you're right, I was surprised

1248
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: at how much people are like No, that was the

1249
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: worst thing that ever happened in by proxy. Your instant

1250
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: analysis is horrible and you suck and I hate people

1251
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: that aren't white, and uh you know, I hate rap

1252
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: music and uh yeah it was pretty hardcore. Look, I

1253
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: get it. You may not like snoop shtick. I've always

1254
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: liked to. In fact, you know, I met him before

1255
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: when I worked at eSPI. He's great. He's an africking entertainer.

1256
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: He's hilarious. I love the weed culture that he brings forth.

1257
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: And if you're upset that he's clowning fighters and singing

1258
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 1: hilariously while Nate Robinson gets knocked out again, it doesn't

1259
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: work in a real fight. It worked perfectly this time around.

1260
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't really understand how you can watch that and

1261
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: be like, f him. That's awful. But you know that's

1262
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: why we have a variety, Luke and spice of life, right,

1263
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand. You know, you send me

1264
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: all the time really nice family photos of George Corpsegrinder,

1265
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: and I'm sure, I'm sure you know he's a real

1266
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: nice dad, but his art I just don't get it, Luke, Okay,

1267
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: I really don't you know.

1268
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do that on Instagram anytime corpse Grinder posts

1269
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: like a family photo like here's how I'm so proud

1270
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: of my daughter, I send it to BC just to

1271
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: annoy him. But in answering to the question, is anything

1272
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: more polarizing than people's love hate with Snoop Dogg, I mean, yeah,

1273
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: there's probably lots of things more polarizing but I'll say this.

1274
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: The other thing is beat too. B. See it's funny

1275
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: when you like have not heard it before and then

1276
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: you hear it, you're like, oh, that's great. Like the

1277
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: Contender series was like every week, so A it wasn't

1278
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: the right fit because of the nature of the fighting,

1279
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: and B it was like sustained exposure to that. I

1280
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: don't know how much that would be all that great,

1281
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: but every once in a while popping in these great.

1282
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: People have the same, you know, opinion of my stick.

1283
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: Luke.

1284
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, maybe maybe fine, couple of MMA B

1285
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: episodes here and there, but three times a week plus bonus.

1286
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: Can't do it. Can't do it, Looke. There are people

1287
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: that they just can't do you and I. They want you.

1288
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: They want the hard, they want the damn you know.

1289
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: They they they want the the They don't want to

1290
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: be entertained, Luke. They want the info and they want

1291
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: it now.

1292
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: Luke. Okay, well that assumes that your stick is inherently entertaining. Entertaining.

1293
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: Well, Stick, Look, I'm talking about the the the what

1294
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: we make together. When two become one. It's like an

1295
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: editorial marriage, right.

1296
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: I Mean, when when I think so I think that's true.

1297
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, listen, not everything is for

1298
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: everybody BC. You know that, you know that, all right?

1299
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: From at Connor Hayes one oh one. Honestly, this is

1300
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 2: a better question than I would have assumed before. Who

1301
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: wins in a boxing match between Jake Paul and Dylan Dannis.

1302
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: It's a good one because I well, look, I think

1303
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: still the Connor one is an interesting debate because only

1304
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: because of the size difference, although look, I don't care

1305
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: about the size difference. Connor will piece him up in

1306
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: my opinion, But Luke, can.

1307
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: We not even give that idea oxygen? What?

1308
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: Dylan Dannis doesn't throw hands in real fighting much? So

1309
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Luke, I really don't know. And there

1310
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: will be a size disadvantages in danis a one hundred

1311
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: and seventy pounds walterweight. You got Jake Paul fighting at

1312
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: one ninety. Let's say they said, let's meet in the middle.

1313
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure they could meet in the middle. Maybe, I

1314
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: don't know who cares? Would you take Jake Paul right.

1315
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Now, am I? Which I think is sort of hilarious

1316
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: to say, But again, his whole bit is getting you

1317
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: to underestimate him and think he's some kind of easy

1318
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: pushover some you know, Paul Wall who does sit ups

1319
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,479
Speaker 2: kind of bit and he's just he's just the worst

1320
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: person in America. But you know, then he goes up

1321
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: there and does what he does to Nate Robinson's like, well,

1322
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: Nate probably and definitely can't box for shit, But can

1323
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: Dylan box for shit? Like we do? We even know

1324
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: how good his hands are? We don't mean the answer

1325
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: is there's no way to know without seeing more from Dylan.

1326
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: But I would if you'd asked me this question like

1327
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: a year ago, I'd been like, even Dylan wins that one.

1328
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know how competitive.

1329
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: That is kind of sad but maybe true. Yeah, all

1330
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 2: right from Taekwon, Dude, memes, what other Legends Only League

1331
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: fights would you make if a second card was to

1332
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: be made?

1333
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: Be see, are we talking only boxing here? Because I

1334
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 1: think the idea of Legend's Only League from Tyson's point

1335
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: of view is all sports, which good luck to you,

1336
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: But come on, we're not doing that, Luke, We're not

1337
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: doing that, okay.

1338
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: But name another big boxing fight you would make other

1339
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: than the ones we've already named all.

1340
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: Right, you know, I would use Dale Hoya since he's

1341
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: very interested, whether it's to rematch Ike Corte, who's also interested,

1342
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: or do a TRINDETD or something like that. For sure,

1343
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: Tyson Holyfield makes a ton of sense. Anderson Silver Roy Jones, Yes,

1344
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: who are we not thinking of Luke of a retired

1345
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: name who is close enough to being in shape and

1346
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: would be fun. And I mean Prince not seems a

1347
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: little yeah, I mean, but he's been fat for a while.

1348
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he you know, he's sort of

1349
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: relying upon speed. I don't know if that's the work out.

1350
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: For if you can find a way to do it.

1351
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton, Yeah, man, uh.

1352
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: Well, here's what's interesting is we're you know, we talked

1353
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: last week and you didn't want to and I respect

1354
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: that about you know, is Floyd really gonna figure out

1355
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: how to box Logan Paul? But Floyd is at this

1356
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: weird point, Luke, where he's you know, he's getting older

1357
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: by the minute, so he's probably more into the celebrity

1358
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: Maymac fights than any real fights. So would you have

1359
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: any interest in Oscar Floyd too as old guys or

1360
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: or no, like Floyd against a real retired fighter.

1361
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't that's a good question, that's a great question.

1362
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer because the first fight was

1363
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: not well, the only fight really was not that great.

1364
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: It was okay, it was competitive though it was competitive.

1365
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: It was competitive, it was, but it wasn't like you know,

1366
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: Pacquiao versus de la Hoya was epic one because it

1367
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: was a beat down, but two, you know, it was

1368
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: fucking thrilling, like heavy shots were being landed, mostly by Pacquiao,

1369
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: so there was something to say for that. I it's

1370
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: a great question to b see. If you're asking me

1371
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: if is there a market for it? Yes, what I

1372
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: personally want to see it. In reference to the initial

1373
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: question we asked about the overall event, I don't know.

1374
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how I feel about that.

1375
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: That's that's kind of interesting.

1376
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you're like, hey, Barrera and Morales

1377
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: or have agreed to do a fourth one, but it

1378
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: will be an exhibition, you know, old guy rules, Yeah,

1379
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: i'd be I'd pop for it, of course, but I

1380
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any other fighter where I mean

1381
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: the dala Hoya for me because he's my guy, but

1382
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any other that I'm like, Man,

1383
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him one more time.

1384
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean George Foreman.

1385
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: No, he's like seventy No, no, no, come.

1386
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: On, dude. He was fighting into his late forties.

1387
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: I know, but he's well too old now. I mean,

1388
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: we're not trying to get somebody, you know. We're not

1389
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: going for death here. We're just going for dismember met Luke, come.

1390
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 2: On, all right? From at Ilia seven four five thoughts

1391
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: on Habib buying an MMA promotion he bought like Gorilla

1392
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: Fighting Championships. Does this submit that his UFC career is

1393
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: officially over? No, of course not. Why would it?

1394
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: Well, I think it means it's more likely over, Luke,

1395
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: now that we it seems like this will be his

1396
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: attention now right. I mean, what was the meeting with

1397
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: Dana about what that cryptic sort of tweet? What does

1398
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: it mean? Luke?

1399
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea what the

1400
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: hell that's uh supposed to be about. Your guess is legitimately,

1401
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 2: if not as good, better than mine. I don't know.

1402
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell him. I could see

1403
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: you soon kind of thing is like just putting that aside,

1404
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: buying the promotion does not in any way preclude him

1405
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: BC from uh excuse me, going forward, because it wouldn't

1406
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: dominate his life. Like there, he owns it, but he's not,

1407
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: to my knowledge, in the day to day, week to

1408
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: week management of it. I'm guessing those decisions would be

1409
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: left to other folks who would be in charge. It

1410
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 2: would probably involve, you know, some bandwidth of his day,

1411
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: but not to the point where if he actually wants

1412
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: to fight, he would be prevented from doing so. It's

1413
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: more like, you know, something a little bit more legitimate

1414
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: than a vanity purchase PC, but not much more than that.

1415
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and real quick on the last question about old

1416
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: guy fighters, I still have a want to see some

1417
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: of these British retired greats, Like we never got to

1418
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: see Carl Fratch against Joe Kalzagi. If those two old

1419
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: guys were coming back at forty five for a fun one,

1420
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: I'd be into it. You know, Mikail Castler and Carl

1421
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: Fratz do a trilogy something like that. So there's a

1422
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: couple other lingering names that I that I'd do.

1423
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: Did you mention, uh, do you say Kalzagi. Did you

1424
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: mention him just now? Yeah? How old is he?

1425
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: I think he's like forty four, forty five, I mean

1426
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: he's yeah, forty not that old. No, he's not there

1427
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: forty seven and forty six and oh something like that. Yeah,

1428
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: not that old. Some people think he won all those

1429
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: fights with smoking mirrors. I'm a I'm a super Joe

1430
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: believer though.

1431
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and then from at I don't know

1432
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: how you pronounce this Gussie underscore nofa gus nofa luke

1433
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: tell us the truth? How many Apple boxes did BC

1434
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: have to stand on in the documentary face off to

1435
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: get up to your island? BC is tall. Folks don't

1436
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: realize that he doesn't look that kind of way. I

1437
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: don't know for whatever reason, or he doesn't have quite

1438
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: the rep I'm six foot four, what are you?

1439
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: BC?

1440
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: Six two six three?

1441
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: You're right there, they say for six two he stood

1442
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: with shoes on. Yeah that's BC. People were like mans,

1443
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: BC's as washed as I thought he would be. But uh,

1444
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: he's a lot taller.

1445
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, okay, yeah, b C, b C is

1446
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: legitimately uh you know.

1447
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 1: Profile hole one on one right now up to well

1448
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: maybe we can do our old old guy hoops game. Okay,

1449
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: because you say you used to dunk back in the day.

1450
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Back in the day, would take you to the hole,

1451
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: Billy hole.

1452
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll have to see. But then if

1453
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: we play basketball, then we have to go to the

1454
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: weight room and then we get to see how much

1455
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: of a man you really are.

1456
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: All right, then we'll go to Cumberland Farms and have

1457
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: an eat off.

1458
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: All right, lost, don't don't you fucking threaten me with

1459
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: a good time, young man, because I will.

1460
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: We can't do it academic to cathlon, you know. I mean,

1461
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: Billy Madison style would be great.

1462
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't tell you this. I told

1463
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: my wife. In Georgia they called it academic Bowl. But

1464
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: this is where there's two teams, you know, and if

1465
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: you know they answer to a question, you ring the buzzer, right.

1466
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: So I did that in high school. It was pretty

1467
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: good at it. I told my wife that I don't

1468
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: know how it came up. I think something had come

1469
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: up on a regional channel on TV, and my wife, literally,

1470
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: I think, for the first time in her life, contemplated

1471
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: divorce because she was like, wow, I married a fucking nerd.

1472
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean, well, did you.

1473
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: Do like debate club and mock trials and that kind

1474
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: of shit too.

1475
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: I didn't do mock trials. I was on the debate

1476
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: team as well.

1477
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't had see I'm from a factory town't

1478
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: know if you know that, So we didn't have stuff

1479
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: like any like debate leagues or anything that prepares you

1480
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: for a a successful future. We didn't really have.

1481
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what, last thing on this debate

1482
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: I found this there's two different styles. There's policy debate

1483
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: and then there's Lincoln Douglas and most schools that I

1484
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: grew up around to not have Lincoln Douglass only had

1485
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: policy BC. You would hate it. It's the stupidest thing ever.

1486
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: And it was a major, major disappointment for me because

1487
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: what ends up happening in policy debate is at the

1488
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: beginning of the year, the people in control of it,

1489
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: they give you like a premise you have to argue over.

1490
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: And for one of my years, it was the United

1491
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: States should substantially change its policy towards the People's Republic

1492
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: of China. But that could be whatever you want it

1493
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: to be, depending what you want to argue. But the

1494
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: key is this you just read as fast as possible.

1495
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: It's not actually about taking your time and making a

1496
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: reasoned argument. It is you already have stuff prepared and

1497
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: you just throw the book at them as quick as

1498
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: you can with this like speed reading thing. And I

1499
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: found it very totally unsatisfying. I think Lincoln Douglas would

1500
01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: be a little bit more of my speed.

1501
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: Kids in my school were more of like the Burr

1502
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Hamilton debate style.

1503
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: But you mean you mean with pistols, motherfucker.

1504
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you don't agree with me, I'll kick

1505
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: your ass. Yeah that's about it.

1506
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that in mine. Good sir. It's time

1507
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: to have some fun. Take it away, all right.

1508
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: This is what we do. We we sco with the globe.

1509
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: You know that the highs and lows, the good and bad,

1510
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: the in between, combat sports and beyond. Luke, it is

1511
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: have you seen this shit? No, Luke, I will not

1512
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: be playing that stupid video of that fat guy fight

1513
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: in that woman. I know everybody wants to see it. It

1514
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: was a little overplayed this week, you know what I'm

1515
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: talking about?

1516
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? The Russian thing. It was gross.

1517
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: That was gross. It was just weird, all right, let's

1518
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: go to UFC Vegas. Luke. On the undercard, Gina Mazani

1519
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: sent Rachel Ostovich to the land of Big L's with

1520
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: a kick to the gut. Luke, she's attractive, but she's

1521
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: four and six.

1522
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: Now.

1523
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 1: Is the Rachel Ostovich experiment over.

1524
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 2: In your eyes? It should be done. I mean, you

1525
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: were sub five hundred coming into this. You're right, it's

1526
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: quite the Instagram account not much more.

1527
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: Well, maybe because she jumped off that Cliff and Dana wouldn't.

1528
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a little a little afraid to pull the trigger.

1529
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,440
Speaker 1: But hey, Luke, you know who jumped out on this undercard.

1530
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: Check out this Flyway newcomer, Suemataji. I think you say it.

1531
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a last name or two

1532
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 1: first names or whatever, but Luke, he only needed forty

1533
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: four seconds to take Malcolm Gordon apart in round one.

1534
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: I don't know who this man is. Do you tell

1535
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: me about him?

1536
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 2: No? His nickname is awesome though. The Tibetan Eagle. I

1537
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: bet you see some fucking sick ass eagles out in Tibet.

1538
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: Bro I don't even know what they look like, but

1539
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: I bet they're fearsome.

1540
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: Look at him piece him up, Luke, right.

1541
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: That left hand was, dude, I'm talking about perfectly timed.

1542
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: That dude, Gordon ate every ounce of that punch, not

1543
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: seeing it coming at all, caught him split his timing completely.

1544
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this guy's name, Sue Madre.

1545
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know something like that anyway.

1546
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: Lou Madre, that's your mom.

1547
01:09:55,680 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh sounded familiar, Luke Julio's says, our Chavez Junior was back,

1548
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that. This weekend he

1549
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 1: had his own pay per view in Mexico. He stopped

1550
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: a hapless Jason Moranda. Look at that under upper cut attempt.

1551
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: It was gross. It lasted four rounds. But Luke, what

1552
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: the hell kind of ring are they in? What? Look

1553
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: at the ropes? What is this?

1554
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: Dude? Do they film this on my phone? What the

1555
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: fuck is this production value?

1556
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: This is a strip club, Luke, Look at the what

1557
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: is this? This is such? I mean, this is where he is.

1558
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: But I'm surprised his dad even showed up in the

1559
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: crowd for this, Luke.

1560
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: This guy did he really?

1561
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: He did? Yeah?

1562
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, poor poor dad man. He is such a fucking

1563
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: icon and legend. And then he's got this like, do

1564
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: you think he must write does Chavez Junior qualify as

1565
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: fail son? As? What the word fail son? Fai l

1566
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: s O N. It's a fail son, But you put

1567
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: it together, it becomes one word. It's like somebody successful

1568
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: whose son is just a total dipshit loser. Would you

1569
01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 2: does he qualify for that?

1570
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: You're learn a new word every day. I guess yeah,

1571
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: he does qualify that. I mean, look, he he was

1572
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: quasi legitimate at middleweight when he won a championship. Now

1573
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: he beat Sebastian ze Beak. I mean it's not like

1574
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: he was a world beater, but look, he was that

1575
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: good because he could lose twenty five pounds on the

1576
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: scales the day before the fight and come in like

1577
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: a cruiserweight. Anytime the playing field has been leveled, he's

1578
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: not good. It really it's the work ethic. He's got

1579
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: a good chain. He goes to the body, but there's

1580
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: no work ethic. He sucks Luke. It's a yeah, it's

1581
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: a You just wonder if there's any more names left.

1582
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: He's kind of already played his Canelo card and lost badly.

1583
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: He you know, had that weird fight with Danny Jacobs.

1584
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: Unless he wants to rematch Sergio Martinez, who's coming back

1585
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: right now? I don't you know whatever, I don't care.

1586
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 2: Who was that guy from my area off The Contender

1587
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: the show, The Contender Joey Gilbert, No, no, no, no,

1588
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: it was Jimmy something right.

1589
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy the way Kai right.

1590
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: Yes, So right after that show, you can imagine it

1591
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 2: was a hit. And I remember locally he put on

1592
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: fight Jimmy Lang. Jimmy Lang, Jimmy Lang exactly. He's a

1593
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 2: nice guy too. But I remember after the Contender BC,

1594
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: he would fight at the Patriots We'll announced rename, but

1595
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: at the time it was the Patriots Center on the

1596
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: campus of George Mason. And you know, when he first

1597
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: got the Contender series, he'd be like ten thousand or

1598
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: more people of those things. And I remember as every

1599
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: year after the Contender series passed, it'd go from ten

1600
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: to eight to six to four. I think at the

1601
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 2: end there there was like two or three thousand people

1602
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: who might show, and this is sort of that stage

1603
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 2: of his career.

1604
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: I used to go see Dicky Betts a the All Brothers,

1605
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guitarists, regularly Luke at these clubs

1606
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, and then he started playing for free at

1607
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: the Terryville Fair. That's when you know it's time to

1608
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: stop showing up. He's not paying his taxes, his teeth

1609
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: are falling out, he's still putting his heads on women.

1610
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's roll on here, Luke, Brisbane, Australia. They

1611
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: had a boxing card over the weekend, but between fights

1612
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: they had an auction. Luke, how much would you have

1613
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: paid for this ceremonial tribute to the lake? Kobe Bryant, Luke,

1614
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we doing here?

1615
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: What the fuck is that a like? What is it

1616
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: just a poster?

1617
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a collage poster. Yeah, all right, not much, dude,

1618
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: not much. I mean, I love Kobe. Roy Jones shouted

1619
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: them out with the yellow and purple gloves.

1620
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: But see, this is what I mean. It's like all

1621
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: these other and this is a low budget thing, but

1622
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: all these promoters are always like, we're gonna do things differently.

1623
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a blank in the middle of the show.

1624
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: Just put on fights. You don't need concerts, you don't

1625
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: need auctions, just fights.

1626
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: All right, Big upset luc and Argentina this weekend. Walter

1627
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: Matis Junior, the nephew of Lucas Matissea. He got sent

1628
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: to Hell at super middleweight by Franco Maximiliano Morello. In

1629
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: the Red there is Walter Junior. All good night, Irene.

1630
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: Who that's the most Argentinian name ever Franco Morello, Maximiliano

1631
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: Maximiliano Morello. Yeah, I mean that could there be a

1632
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 2: more Argentinian name than that? Jesus Christ.

1633
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:05,839
Speaker 1: Maxim Mattissa's dad, Walter Mattissa was also a credible journeyman.

1634
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: But uh, look at the neck tats on Matisa, very

1635
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: like his uncle who who did his own? Do you

1636
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: know Lucas Mattiss would do his own tats? He learned

1637
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: it in jail. He would tat himself. Luke, That's that's wild, right.

1638
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: I know a lot of tattoo artists who are that way.

1639
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 2: They'll practice a little bit on themselves, but not the

1640
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 2: other way around. By the way, Lucas Matisse in his

1641
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: day could thump. He actually was quite the uh quite

1642
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: the puncher for a time.

1643
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you remember when he saw Mike Dallas

1644
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: Junior two Hell in Atlantic City?

1645
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: Yes, the guy and also he fucked up my guy

1646
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: Lamont Peterson. I was there for that one too, Yep.

1647
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, all right, Luke, let's go down and do

1648
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: the tie fight promotion. Uh in in Asia this weekend.

1649
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: Check out the crowds just going sick between fights, Luke.

1650
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: We don't need masks. We're just gonna We're just out

1651
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: here dancing. Oh there's a mask. We're just out here

1652
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: having a good time. Look at that guy in the

1653
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: red Switcher, just just living.

1654
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: Luke.

1655
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: You down with these folks, with these Asians? Uh yeah,

1656
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I have. I mean, where would we be

1657
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: without Coposa's in Twitter account? Right? Shout out to that?

1658
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, back to boxing, Luke. His own was

1659
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, Florida. You know, on paper, this was supposed

1660
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: to be a good fight. Danny Jacobs a favorite, of course,

1661
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: a huge favorite over Gay Brisotto at super middleweight. Luke,

1662
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: they turned in a snooze fast. Danny Jacobs escapes, Jake,

1663
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: can we advance the slide please? Danny Jacobs escapes with

1664
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: a split decision. But Luke, did you see the announcers?

1665
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he fucked it all up. That was the perfect

1666
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: ending to this absolute dog shit fight.

1667
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The announcer goes your winner from Philadelphia,

1668
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: and as you can see, Gay Brisotto started celebrating. He

1669
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: goes from Brooklyn, New York. It's Danny J. Luke. This

1670
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: is unfortunately Gay Brisotto's whole career summed up so many

1671
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: times he's had a shot at winning. He looked like

1672
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: he had a case and then the judges robbed him

1673
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: or the rest stopped at early h He's you know,

1674
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: he's a great journeyman. He's very skilled, Luke. He fought.

1675
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: Did you see this fight at all? Risotto fought a

1676
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: great game plan. Did somebody give Danny Jacobs the red

1677
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: pill before you what happened here?

1678
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: Luke? I didn't. I didn't mind that, dude. When there's

1679
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 2: that much inactivity, judging becomes that much harder. That's a

1680
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: rule in mma and boxing. So I didn't mind that

1681
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 2: Jacob's won. I didn't think that was a robbery, did

1682
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 2: you No?

1683
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: No, but you're right, there was There was just such

1684
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:29,919
Speaker 1: I mean, the only.

1685
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: One round, little it gets it's good hit Fox judges

1686
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: all up.

1687
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: Only one round did any of the two fighters land

1688
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: double digit punches. It was Risotto one time landed ten.

1689
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: It was just a horrific sparring match. Jacob's said the crowd,

1690
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: the lack of a crowd got to him. Also, there

1691
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: seemed to be some derision in Jacob's corner, like they

1692
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: were just like almost like I don't know what you

1693
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: should do. Just go out there and uh how about

1694
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: go out there and throw hands, Jacobs, you can get

1695
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: some big fights against Canelo or against Triple G. This

1696
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: was this was gross, but uh, no action on his own,

1697
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: A lot of action in the streets, Luke, I couldn't

1698
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: find you a Black Friday fight video, So how about

1699
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: spinny shit in the mall? Look at this fight that

1700
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: broke out, Luke. Who you got here? Who you got Oh?

1701
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 2: Let's see pow Son. Look at that dude. You're getting

1702
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: slept outside of a fela. That is the pot, that

1703
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: is the end of the line of the train. Boy.

1704
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh look at that guy. He's already either fitting him

1705
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: for a coffin. I mean, it's one thing to get

1706
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: into like some trash talk with the guy from Best Buy,

1707
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna bring spinny shit into it, that's

1708
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: a little unfair at Luke.

1709
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: Okay, oh man, can you imagine? It's like, dude, where

1710
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: are you in life. Y'all got knocked the fuck out

1711
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 2: outside of FELA. I mean, that is one step from

1712
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: just giving people blowers out the back of a sit go.

1713
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,959
Speaker 1: But Luke, knowing how to do spinny shit doesn't guarantee

1714
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: it works. Check Out this from the jub WGP fight promotion.

1715
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: A man attempted spinny shit and he walked right into

1716
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: one of its own.

1717
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: Luke. Oh yeah, damn son, what is this WGP?

1718
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know what that means, world world something, Luke.

1719
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,480
Speaker 2: Aah, that's the rolling thunder.

1720
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that is a spinning elbow attempt into a

1721
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 1: little rolling thunder business. Yikes. I think we it feels

1722
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: like we've seen that because we've seen a lot just

1723
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: like this. But anytime someone tries the spin stuff and

1724
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: gets caught with it, it's gonna make this show. I'm sorry,

1725
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: it is what it is, Luke. Let's call it to

1726
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: the ice. There's a lot of good fights in hockey

1727
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: these days. Check out this one hit or Quitter shades

1728
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: of Stu Grimson the grim Reaper hair. Check this out.

1729
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: There's no there's no hockey. What is this from?

1730
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: I don't know, but well, it's gotta like it's gotta

1731
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: be hard to fight on skates, and if you get

1732
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: knocked out cold you fall face first on ice.

1733
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: That's gotta suck, Luke, Jesus and he just want mop.

1734
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to get leverage on a skate.

1735
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: So I really give these guys credit who have figured

1736
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: this out.

1737
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: I one time saw an epic hockey fight at the

1738
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 2: Verizon Center. Who was that dude? Ude? I forgot what

1739
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 2: was his name? He was like six seven six ' eight.

1740
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: He played for the Blackhawks for a time. Are you talking.

1741
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: About za Danio Chara from the Bruins, the guy that

1742
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: was six to eight but could.

1743
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: Fight, but he wasn't with the Bruins at the time. Uh,

1744
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: it might have been Chara And I saw what's his face?

1745
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: I saw the was it the Rock? The guy who

1746
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: one time had like the wrestling video with GSP. I

1747
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 2: saw him. I saw him drop the gloves a couple

1748
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: of times too. That was fucking great. He don't hear

1749
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: a true story.

1750
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: There are some long YouTube rabbit holes you can go down,

1751
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: Luke when you start researching this, Like Elia Kolvilchuk, remember

1752
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: the goal scorer from the Thrashers. Yeah, that guy could fight.

1753
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: He's got some good ones. I think Jay's got a

1754
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: story for you though, Luke ready, you know there's a

1755
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: good one.

1756
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 2: There's a good one.

1757
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 3: Uh So, back when I was training with r I Hall,

1758
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 3: I had a guy from the Pittsburgh Penguin's minor league

1759
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: system who came in to train and he said, I

1760
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: just want to be able to fight better on ice,

1761
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 3: like that was his sole purpose in coming in to

1762
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 3: learn MMA.

1763
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: Who was it? Was it Ef Guinea Malkin who one

1764
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: hit quit J Beagle? Do you guys remember that fucking

1765
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 2: I flatlined him and uh And there was a lot

1766
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: of pushback here in DC about it because it was

1767
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 2: a fucking vicious ko by a Pekin.

1768
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: The Russians can fight, but but Chara fight.

1769
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just YouTube some Chara fights at his side,

1770
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 3: it is unbelievable. Like he stopped fighting because people wouln't

1771
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 3: fight him because he was killing people.

1772
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: Dude, if you're six seven to six eight and then

1773
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 2: you're on those like the the the NHL kind of skates,

1774
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: it's like another four or five inches they're boosting your

1775
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: ass up. He was a towering figure on the ice.

1776
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: You kind of have more leverage.

1777
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: BC if you're if you are a good skater and

1778
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: know how to skate, you kind of have more leverage

1779
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: when you lean into it.

1780
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: Right, Pretty scary stuff, you see. I'm gonna call this

1781
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: the Nate Robinson. What happened to this guy? Here? Just

1782
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 2: charge it in? Yeah, go go and face first.

1783
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: You want to see a dead body on the football field,

1784
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: we got one here from Saturday's college football game Utah

1785
01:20:54,080 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: against Washington. Back on the hey, back on the chain.

1786
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: Gag, and that that old that old cooter doesn't move

1787
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: look at him box. Oh, it's like, buddy, we're not

1788
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: doing the planking challenge.

1789
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you survived this, Luke, I

1790
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,919
Speaker 1: feel bad. Remember the time I had the circus performer

1791
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: who died from that snake and we were almost put

1792
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: it on the air and then they're like, b see,

1793
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: this isn't faces of death. We don't have legal clearance

1794
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: to show that. But they're like, you want to, like, hey, here's.

1795
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 2: A snake eating a guy. I'm like, I don't. I

1796
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 2: don't actually want to see that.

1797
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, have you ever ridden a fire extinguisher before?

1798
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: No, I can't say that.

1799
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: I have bec check out that magic trick what's going

1800
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: on here?

1801
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

1802
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?

1803
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 2: Dude? These Russians they're amazing people, aren't they.

1804
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like an old guy too. Check that out.

1805
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: That's fantastic.

1806
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: How many you know? Vodka sodas? Did this? Gentleman? Have? Good? Lord, Luke.

1807
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: We often asked the question what is art?

1808
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: Are?

1809
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: We are? Is our art? Check out this toilet art

1810
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: on the street. This is some great stuff, Luke. It's

1811
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: so incredible that, you know, you could you could fool

1812
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: yourself looking at it and think.

1813
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: It's real, right a little bit? Yeah you could? Oh wow,

1814
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: look at that.

1815
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: Look that is an illustration of your career since joining

1816
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: forces with me, Luke.

1817
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: Right, you know pretty much pretty much. Although it is pretty,

1818
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: it is nice.

1819
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: It is well so is our show, you know. Yeah,

1820
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: all right, hey, let's go over to skateboarding here, Luke.

1821
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: Check out this extra from Michael Jackson's beat Up video

1822
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 1: gets centered. Yes, yes, Luke, we have a new theme

1823
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: here of African American people on skateboards. Not a good look, Luke.

1824
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: In the end, I think I don't know. Oh man, Wow,

1825
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: all right, slipping's time, Luke. Okay, you ever get drunk

1826
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: out of pool and you uh, and you just sort

1827
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 1: of yeah.

1828
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Oh dude, where are they doing this where there's like

1829
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: random fucking toyotas.

1830
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: I think that's called a fender bender, Luke. Okay, we've

1831
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: got another attempt at slipping slide, but this time it's

1832
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: in a Look.

1833
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: There's a giant fat man just watching like, oh my god,

1834
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: oh you know what this is. These might be marines

1835
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: or sailors depending. Yep, please do doing a beer slide

1836
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 2: on a table.

1837
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: Get stupid prizes, yep, get a concussion. That is great, ah, Luke.

1838
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: You ever wonder how these waiters and waitresses do it?

1839
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: You ever figure out how to carry ten beers at

1840
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: one time? Check out this guy's style, all right? Check

1841
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: out this technique?

1842
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, hey, can I have my beer with your

1843
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: fucking fingers on it? You discuss any human means.

1844
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: That's not COVID friendly, Luke, But uh, well done.

1845
01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm just the same on.

1846
01:23:59,360 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: That, all right.

1847
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: Like you look, guys, I had to scratch my balls

1848
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: in my onis. I had food poisoning. Let me get

1849
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: your beers for you?

1850
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: Will you give her? Hear that rolling Stone song wild Horses?

1851
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't, couldn't couldn't.

1852
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: Drag me away. I figure I have to drag away

1853
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: this next guy, Luke, what is going on here?

1854
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: Look it's a beautiful horse.

1855
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic sensibody that Yes, that horse was like, hey,

1856
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 4: we're gonna joust when right now?

1857
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: That is great. I got one more for you, Luke.

1858
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: It's the self induced KO of the week. Check out

1859
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: this flamboyant fella. I don't know what he was attempting,

1860
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: but but you, sir, there's a spot for you in hell, Luke.

1861
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: Watch him have to do the walk of the Crawl

1862
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: of shame to try to find to get the phone.

1863
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: And this fucking asshole is at work.

1864
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: Oh, he got worked. He did get work. Look at him.

1865
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: He's got his apron on. So I'm guessing he's like,

1866
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, he's a cook or a florist or some shit.

1867
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: He's got a name attack. So my man is at

1868
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: work playing games.

1869
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Ah. You have to wonder how we end up with

1870
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: this footage, Like did he send it to like a

1871
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: friend saying, hey, look what happened me today?

1872
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: So some friend was filming this and then the guy

1873
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: was like, dude, don't post it on the internet. He's

1874
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: like dude that would never post it on the internet.

1875
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 2: And then the first thing he did was go to

1876
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: the bathroom and posted on the internet.

1877
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Look, that's all the interesting said.

1878
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: I actually have a bone to pick, a minor one.

1879
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: How have we gone this long and you have not

1880
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 2: shown the clip of the old man in Florida, seventy

1881
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: four years old with the cigar in his mouth, who's

1882
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: puppy got snatched by a small but still you know,

1883
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: deadly alligator and the seventy four year old man jumps

1884
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: in the water and wrestles the bitch free.

1885
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: I was a little bit too fearful that the dog

1886
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: was like permanently hurt.

1887
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: Luke. No, I looked into it. The dog had to

1888
01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: get a couple of stitches.

1889
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, because I've got a tiny dog and

1890
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: she I regularly or not regularly, but I've had to

1891
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: pull dead mice out of her mouth, rabbits that she

1892
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: caught in the yard. I mean, she'll grab them and

1893
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: squeeze them and they're dead. And she's only this big Luke.

1894
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't know, no, no, no. The guy

1895
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: got in there, and the best part was the old

1896
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 2: dude with the cigar. He kept it in his mouth

1897
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: the entire time. I was like, that guy needs the

1898
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: Presidential Medal of Freedom if anybody does.

1899
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does, he does. Look indeed, all right, that's

1900
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: all I got this week, Luke. I gotta catch a

1901
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: playing to la. Let's make this happen very good?

1902
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: All right? With that in mind, BC, time for odds

1903
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: and ends? What do you have for your odds and ends?

1904
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: Good sir?

1905
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I referenced that earlier, but we finally got

1906
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: that fight between unbeaten your British heavyweights Joe Joyce against

1907
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Speaker 1: Daniel Dubois this past weekend. It was rescheduled a crap

1908
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Speaker 1: ton of times. Actually forgot it was this weekend. Luke

1909
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Speaker 1: was an afternoon show on ESPN Plus. Turns out, the

1910
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Speaker 1: thirty five year old Joe Joyce wins out in the end. Look,

1911
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Speaker 1: I didn't think the fight was great. It was a

1912
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Speaker 1: strategic sort of jab fest. But Joyce landed consistently with

1913
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Speaker 1: that big and slowly started closing the twenty three year

1914
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Speaker 1: old du Boise eyes. I don't think either fighter did

1915
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Speaker 1: a ton to make you go hey, let's put him

1916
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Speaker 1: in there with Wilder and fury, but this was an

1917
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Speaker 1: important fight and I do credit British matchmaking because Luke,

1918
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Speaker 1: they try to put you know, John Jones and Ryan

1919
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Speaker 1: Bader in there at the right times, you know, when

1920
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Speaker 1: they're both unbeaten, to figure out who's got next. And

1921
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Speaker 1: it turns out a jab to that swollen enclosed eye

1922
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Speaker 1: in the tenth round caused Dubois to take a late

1923
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Speaker 1: knee and then he decided not to get up. Yes,

1924
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Speaker 1: there was some derision that he quit. Turns out he

1925
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: not only had the broken eyeball and eye socket, Luke,

1926
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Speaker 1: he did have nerve damage on top of that. It

1927
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: is the brutality of this sport. But hey, a big

1928
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Speaker 1: win for Joe Joyce, who got into the game late.

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Speaker 1: We've seen him before on Showtime under pay per view undercards,

1930
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Speaker 1: but this is a big win that Joe the Juggernau Joyce.

1931
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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to move him quicker than

1932
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Speaker 1: normal because of his age. I don't think he's a

1933
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Speaker 1: world beater, Luke, but he needed to win this one

1934
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Speaker 1: to sort of have next. And I enjoyed the fight.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't great, joy it was okay, and his eye

1936
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: was a mess. We talked about it earlier, like when

1937
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: you can mock fighters, you gotta be a real prick

1938
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: to mock that guy. His eye was fucking shut and

1939
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 2: looked bad. My odds and ends here very quickly. D

1940
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Speaker 2: La Hoya Oscar de la Hoya went on the Ackenbarrock

1941
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: Show on Sirius x Sam shots of those guys, and

1942
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: it seemed like tried to bury the hatchet with Dana White. Now,

1943
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: for years, Dale Hooya and Dana White had a really

1944
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: good relationship, and then out of nowhere, during I think

1945
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: it was the Connor and Mayweather fight, Oscar kind of

1946
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: lost his mind on him and you know, really went

1947
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 2: after Dana. And then when he was you know, sort

1948
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: of pumping up his own was like pay per views

1949
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: dead blah blah blah blah blah. On my show, Oscar

1950
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 2: wanted to box Dana White and threaten to do it,

1951
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 2: and then on this show he was like, you know,

1952
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Speaker 2: Dana White getting into boxing would be great. Golden Boy

1953
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: and UFC partnering, I think would be amazing. You know, Dana,

1954
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: if you're out there, let's talk. And I'm like, dude,

1955
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Speaker 2: what the fuck does Dale Hoya want? I can't tell

1956
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Speaker 2: if he's coming or going if he believes in any

1957
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: of this stuff anymore, or if it's just promoter speak.

1958
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,520
Speaker 2: But there's really no Listen, you gotta give Araim consistency.

1959
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 2: The guy just shits on MMA every time, like you

1960
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 2: can hate the opinion, but it basically stays the same

1961
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: year over year. Dan La Joya is all over the

1962
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Speaker 2: place BC and I really don't know what to make

1963
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: of it.

1964
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Speaker 1: Now he is all over the place. He Uh, it's

1965
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Speaker 1: a it's a credit that this company's still running. I

1966
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: know he's in a ceremonial spot to some degree. There

1967
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: are some smart people behind him. But look, they lost Canelo,

1968
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: they lost their meal ticket. Yes they got Ryan Garcia,

1969
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Yes they have Virgil Ortiz Junior, who just showed in

1970
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: those pictures. But it's no See, it's no surprise, Luke

1971
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 1: that he's thinking, Okay, Dana's got money and distribution and attention.

1972
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I can try to pair up with him and

1973
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: provide fighters to fight against his crossover MMA guys, or

1974
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: just team up with his money. Yeah, it's not a shocker,

1975
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 1: knowing Oscar's constant flip flopping on everything. I mean, look,

1976
01:29:53,720 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: look this dude offered Canal offered Canelo to fight Connor McGregor. Then,

1977
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: when McGregor chose, Mayweather sent a letter to the media

1978
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: telling all boxing folks to boycott the fight, like come on,

1979
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Speaker 1: you know, like stop so.

1980
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Speaker 2: Uh. By the way I saw on his Instagram page,

1981
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: Fat Joe seems to like him. We're talking, we're talking

1982
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 2: about heavy hitters in boxing. Do you see Edgar? I

1983
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: think it's Edgar Burlanga. Is that his name? Yes, the

1984
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: port he has a fight on the twelfth. I don't

1985
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 2: know who it's against. Didn't seem like it was anybody

1986
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 2: particularly interesting, but you're talking about some of boxing's heaviest punchers.

1987
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Speaker 2: Edgar Burlanga back in actually twelfth.

1988
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is he's sixteen and oh with sixteen first

1989
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Speaker 1: round KO something like that. He is wanting to watch.

1990
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you don't know if he's got any

1991
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: sort of stamina because he's blowing through dudes. But that's impressive.

1992
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Speaker 2: Uh all right, So with that in mind, Uh you

1993
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Speaker 2: see BC shirt. What are we gonna say, bec.

1994
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, did you We didn't talk about this,

1995
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Speaker 1: but do you want to bring back homework this week

1996
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Speaker 1: at all? Do you want to pick something or do

1997
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Speaker 1: you want to push that off.

1998
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Speaker 2: M I don't have anything top of mind. I don't

1999
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Speaker 2: have any top of mind.

2000
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Speaker 1: Okay, we can do and I got a lot of

2001
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Speaker 1: free time this week in a hotel room in Los Angeles,

2002
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Speaker 1: So yeah, let's.

2003
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Speaker 2: See, all right. So first things first, if you want

2004
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Speaker 2: one of BC's shirts thirty percent off today, and not

2005
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Speaker 2: just on the shirt but all MK merch, use the

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2007
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Speaker 2: plug in that code, you can take three dollars off

2008
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Speaker 2: of every ten. What better deal is that than this one?

2009
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Speaker 2: I don't know. So first of all, there's that. If

2010
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Speaker 2: you want to try showtime and time to try the

2011
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Speaker 2: Hector Camacho documentary Good News, you can try it for

2012
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2013
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Speaker 2: keep it. If not, you can go rake the ocean.

2014
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2015
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Speaker 2: If you want to follow us on social, great opportunity

2016
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Speaker 2: to do that as well. Morning Combat is consistent everywhere

2017
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Speaker 2: on Twitter, on Instagram, YouTube dot com slash morning combat.

2018
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Speaker 2: What's up? You see?

2019
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Speaker 1: We did want to you know, a producer just reminded

2020
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: me maybe we should bring in Jay and at least

2021
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: let him speak his piece. I mean, look, you you

2022
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,480
Speaker 1: detonateh right, his character on the documentary.

2023
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Jay, your rebuttal to our very factual statements about you,

2024
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: what would that be?

2025
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty much all true.

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Speaker 2: See there.

2027
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Speaker 3: And I was just you know, obviously I had seen

2028
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 3: it in advance, so I knew it was coming. But uh,

2029
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 3: I was actually genuinely surprised that that was the trailer.

2030
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, okay, now, jamersonal ig so he

2031
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: couldn't have hated it that much.

2032
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: Luke didn't. I didn't make the trailer, man, so take

2033
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 2: that up with the guy that made it, not me. Yeah.

2034
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, okay, all right, we're doing this

2035
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Speaker 1: all right.

2036
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Uh. By the way, if you want to get at Jay,

2037
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: or you want to send mean things to me, or

2038
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 2: submissions for Dead Wrong, or submissions for fan submissions, anything,

2039
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: email us Morning Combat at gmail dot com. That's gonna

2040
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 2: be your place to be. And uh again, BC gotta

2041
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 2: thank everyone got us over seventy k for the month.

2042
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 2: You know, I would like to end the year at

2043
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 2: seventy five, but because we have a flyweight title main

2044
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 2: event for our last pay per view of the year,

2045
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that's all that doable but BC, but

2046
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,799
Speaker 2: we got a Connor McGregor fight in January, big doings

2047
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 2: ahead in twenty twenty one.

2048
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Canelo's back this month. That don't suck. So a

2049
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: couple of things on the burner. I'll be in LA

2050
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 1: this week for Thursday night's NBC Sports Ring City USA card,

2051
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: and so we'll see if that McDonald's Wi fi works

2052
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: over on the left coast. Look, hey, maybe i'll call

2053
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: up Big Brown. We'll have a nice Brown on Beije Fest.

2054
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 2: Maybe are you gonna do a Are you gonna do

2055
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 2: an instant reaction for the Spence Garcia fight?

2056
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

2057
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 2: That is?

2058
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good reminder that not only is that pay

2059
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: per view this Saturday, a Fox pay per view. Yes,

2060
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I'll be back by the way, I'll be back home

2061
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: by Saturday. But uh okay, yeah, Luke, not only will

2062
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: I be doing that, but please check out already h

2063
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: interviews with Danny Garcia and Errol Spence Junior that are

2064
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: already published on YouTube on the Morning Combat channel. We're

2065
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: gonna be previewing that fight obviously later in the week

2066
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: along with UFC and Luke, you got a pretty big

2067
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: guest lined up this week as well.

2068
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tomorrow I'm talking to Dustin Plarier in the afternoon,

2069
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 2: so that should be up a little bit later in

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Speaker 2: the day, probably around five or six East Coast time.

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01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 2: I'll have a conversation with Dustin quari up. We're ready

2072
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 2: for you guys. Looking forward to talking to him. Fighting

2073
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 2: Connor in January. Baby cannot wait for that one, so

2074
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: he should be a fun conversation as well.

2075
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: All right, b C, I want you fight minutes to

2076
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: make twenty five years make sense, right, something like.

2077
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: That, thirty minutes to make life fair, my friend, b C.

2078
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: I wish you nothing but safe travels. Enjoy Los Angeles.

2079
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: Please don't get COVID, wear a mask and do all

2080
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 2: that good stuff.

2081
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll be quarantine, Luke, so yes, thanks very good.

2082
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 2: All right for BC four, j for Malca and showtime.

2083
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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas this morning. Combat until next time, May

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Speaker 2: all of your gains be loyal.