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Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes, goodness, dingdal culture. And how

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Speaker 1: It's only to poopoo on banks. Well, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: forty two. Banks are not the club. Banks are not

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Speaker 1: Are we sort of ingested when we get through we

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Speaker 1: And this is actually, this is actually the thing about

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Speaker 1: I mean, the sort of bibliography on my life is

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Speaker 1: I got political. And this was supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: just go over a couple of items of business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Frank Ocean is selling dollar cock rings. What golden diamonds?

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Speaker 1: Did you hear about this? Frank Ocean is selling dollar

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Speaker 1: cock rings, but they're they're heck sagonal, They're a hexagon,

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Speaker 1: but there's it's so it's really chic. But unfortunately, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I have a question. Who does he think his clientele is?

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Speaker 1: Who does he think his clientele is that they can

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Speaker 1: he's like zeering in on like a type of luxury consumer.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this is not the Frank Ocean.

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Speaker 1: You knew, this is not the girl I knew. No,

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Speaker 1: Frank Ocean shouldn't be a luxury brand. Is a shek name.

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Speaker 1: His brand is Homer, which I'm also like viral. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think I like it like Simpsons

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? I love him to death.

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Speaker 1: in all of his endeavors. I'm just saying like, there's

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Speaker 1: Absolute one. It's giving Adele. It's giving Adele's best album. Sorry, okay,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Happy belated, thank you? How did you celebrate?

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Speaker 1: actually one of the girls from Yellow Jackets, Sammy Um,

424
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: she goes with Samantha now because she's an adult. Samantha

425
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: Hannon Rannie I've known for like over ten years. So good.

426
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: She's amazing. I met her like when I first moved

427
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: to l A and we took our first very acting

428
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: class together and we were very excited to be there together.

429
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: And then there was another it was like a wolf brother.

430
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: I think his name is nap Wolf. It was really nice. Yeah,

431
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: it is saved by the Bell your first maybe not

432
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: your first, but is that like one of your first

433
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: jobs where you got to hang with people in your

434
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: age cohort and like your age group where because I

435
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: feel like you've been in a lot of stuff where

436
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: it's like you've had to play opposite like full grown adults. Yeah,

437
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: and I imagine as as as someone growing up in

438
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 1: the industry, you're like, I kind of want to hang

439
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: out with like people my age. Is that fair hundred percent?

440
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean when I was on Glee, I like assumed

441
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: I would be with high school aged people because I

442
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: was fourteen years old. But I was with like thirty

443
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: eight year olds who are from the oldest people in

444
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: America who plays in America. It was the oldest people

445
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: had ever seen. They were like thirty. It's like it

446
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: was like, it's not even like people that are like, yeah,

447
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: they're old to play high schools. It's like hard adults

448
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: with hard adult problems, like having a hard adult contract.

449
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: It's like and then they're like, we get to get

450
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: to class. I was just so confused, like what, like

451
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: why did when it came to casting my character, did

452
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: they decide they wanted to cast a child? Like true?

453
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: I was I was truly like thirteen years old, and

454
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: when I was cast and like put opposite these these

455
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: thirty year old old novelist, right and EMILEA Michelle who

456
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: was who was a wonderful journey um but Lilia of

457
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: it Allen and I are going to see her in

458
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: Funny Girl. I mean she's she's that'll be very gonna

459
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: tear it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah of course. But anyway,

460
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: so yeah, so when we got to say by the

461
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: Bell Um, I was so lucky, especially because I had

462
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: shot a movie just before that and I became really

463
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: close friends with this girl, Alicia. It was a film

464
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: called Moxie, And while we were filming that movie, I

465
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: realized that she had um been auditioning per se by

466
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: the Bell and I met with Tracy Wigfield, who had

467
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: the idea to bring it back like this summer before.

468
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: But I was I wasn't planning on doing it um

469
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: because I like had just for the very first time,

470
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: which now looking back, it sounds so stupid that I

471
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: was like I'm saying no to this. See where the

472
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: Bell reboo, But like it was the very first time

473
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: in my entire life I ever could just be myself

474
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: and be in school and I realized that I had

475
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: spent the past almost decade just dressing up as like

476
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: someone else and being on set all day and then

477
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: neither having these like imperative moments that like make your

478
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: young adult life like what it's supposed to be or

479
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: your team life. And then like I just kept getting

480
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: closer with her, and then I remember, like the day

481
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: that she booked it, I like was I was like

482
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: crying for her, and that was like one of the

483
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: final straws um that helped me realize, like I should

484
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: probably this is a sign that I should probably like

485
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: do this, and obviously with the role in tracyemings so amazing,

486
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: and so I said yes. And we ended on a

487
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: Friday of that movie, and we had our first day

488
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: of read that Monday. I got to be with her

489
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: for two and a half years straight, and then she

490
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: ended up moving in with me, and that was I

491
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't realize that at Lasia had been like on this

492
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: journey with you through multiple stages. And then and then

493
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: does she go to Chapman too or did she go

494
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: she didn't go to chim And we joked that she

495
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: like kind of like did because our best friends to

496
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: me and who's doing the podcast with Lucia and I

497
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: is my best friend from college. Um associated honestly Saved

498
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: by the Bell was it was so it was such

499
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: like a joy to watch because it really was not

500
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: what anyone thought it was going to be. I think

501
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: people probably thought, probably maybe even what you thought when

502
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: you heard, oh, you're being offered to Save by the

503
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: Bell reboot, it's like, oh, is it going to be

504
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: not to you know, not in the pejorative even I

505
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: don't even say this, but like corny like the original

506
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: one was in that is it going to be after

507
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: school specialists or what's going on? And then you hear

508
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: Tracy Wigfield and probably gets to know her, and then

509
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: maybe even see a script and you're like, oh my god,

510
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: this is real jokes. It's hard jokes. It's self aware,

511
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: very self aware, like the characters are interesting and funny.

512
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Like that had to be like a pretty cool thing

513
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: to like understand that it was going to play to

514
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: the top of intelligence instead of like being for kids. Yeah,

515
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: so cool. I think that's such a testament to how

516
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: smart Tracy is, and I think we never really doubted

517
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: that because I mean, she went from being like a

518
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: writer assistant on thirty Rock to winning the Emmy for

519
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: writing remember that year. Yeah, she's like just so intelligent

520
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: and wonderful, and looking back, I'm like, why wouldn't I

521
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: have done that? I mean, to this day is the

522
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: best role I've ever played. It's the best writing. And

523
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm you know you guys, I'm sure familiar with some

524
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: of the writers Um on that show that Chrish like

525
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: her and yeah, um and some of those writer most

526
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: of them like Ben and Aaron Um Geary that I

527
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: said that, like they're married. I don't know Ben's Um.

528
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: They're like they're two straight men who I'm like wanting

529
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: to I want them to be UM. But I've known

530
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: them for like seven years, so these people or or

531
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: now seven years, but like at the time, it was

532
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: like five years, so they knew exactly how I spoke

533
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: or um, like what would sound the best coming out

534
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: of my mouth. So I just had the best material

535
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: to work with. M You're so fucking good in it,

536
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: Like just the deliveries are so so sharp. I mean,

537
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: the character of Lexei too is just like so well developed.

538
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a testament to you being a producer

539
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: on the show and giving it some real, some some

540
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: reality to like what being like a trans student at

541
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: a high school might be like in this day and

542
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: age in a way that it's not like it it

543
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: is not disempowered, Like Lexi is a very fun, comfortable,

544
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: confident person, but then she still has these moments like

545
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: in this in this in this recent season where she

546
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: is I'm reticent to be this like poster child for

547
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: like trans identity when this transigent another school gets kicked

548
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: off the soccer team, Like I thought that was so genius,

549
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Like it's not that, like it's not this expected narrative

550
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: of like, oh well then Lexi would react to like

551
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: this very predictable way in in in the container of

552
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: like an after school special from the eighties and like

553
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: the old Saved by the belderation. I just think it's

554
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: such I mean, Tracy is a genius and it's so

555
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: fun that you get to play like the Jeta Maroni

556
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: type of person. And like a thirty Rock DNA show,

557
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, like now like every show since thirty Rock

558
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: that's done through Tina and and Robert and Tracy and

559
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: you know all these people, Like that lineage is so essential,

560
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't remember, like this is my favorite kind

561
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: of comedy. I don't know, I was truly just so lucky,

562
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: and I mean I would just die laughing, and I

563
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: don't think I realized, like how how exactly like he

564
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: always I knew that I was really lucky in those moments,

565
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: but like looking back now being on other projects, and

566
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: like I was truly just given like a giant like

567
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: juicy delicious cake to just bite off of every single day,

568
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: and there was never a moment where I didn't have

569
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: genuine fun. And I think that's why. I think that

570
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: reflected in that character too, And I don't think I'll

571
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: ever play a character like that in that way again, um,

572
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: which is sort of sad, but also I feel like

573
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: that was very healing for me because I think as

574
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: a child, that character is that is like the one

575
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: that I aspired to to be, or that type of

576
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: like aspirational girl character that I think a lot of

577
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: like queer people can relate to. I feel like we

578
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: look we look up to like you know, the Britney

579
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Spears of the Mall or Regina George, but Regina exactly, um,

580
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: like the clueless, and so it was very like self

581
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: fulfilling prophecy and that is how I genuinely speak in

582
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: my head. I just like I can't say that out

583
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: loud without getting like physically abused by someone on the street.

584
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: So we mentioned aspiring from childhood, which sort of brings

585
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: us to our centerpiece question of this podcast, which was

586
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Jolie Tota, what is the culture that made you say

587
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: culture is for you? This is the formative pop culture

588
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: in your life that you can look back and be like,

589
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that sort of made me. That's sort of

590
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: made me me. I mean there's so many things. I

591
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: think definitely every single pack in edition of this SIMS game.

592
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh here we go. Yeah, Like true, are you a

593
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: SIMS fan? I would lose. This is what I would

594
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: spend my summers doing, Like in full on high school,

595
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: when I like I could have a social life, I

596
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: would play the SIMS to for nine hours straight. Um

597
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: literally same. I like had glued my eyes to a

598
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: PC that I bought just to play SIMS. I had

599
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: the Katy Perry pack, like the Candy Land pack or whatever,

600
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: and then I had like the college dorm one. I

601
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: had every single pack and like just getting to create

602
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: my own world and kill people, like back when that

603
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: was like the fun thing to do and like wasn't bad,

604
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: like didn't kill him in a bad way. It was

605
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: like you'd set the house on fire or something. It

606
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: was just like it was really liberating and just like

607
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: getting to give people a pregnant and it was like

608
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: so fun. The fact that you had the Katy Perry

609
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: pack is so funny because it's when when I was

610
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: playing sim was it was like you get the Evril

611
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Levine pack that it was like that sounds so fun.

612
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: I feel like she made a comeback. They need to

613
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: do anotherad do that again. I was more of a

614
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: roller coaster tycoon, a little gay, but like it was,

615
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: the SIMS was major, and I remember the cheat code

616
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: you could put in what was it like a ton

617
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: of money rose but you could type rose butt into

618
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: the top right corner or whatever, and you'd get so

619
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: much money and you'd be able to make like Mick mansions,

620
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: which if you look back, pretty much every mansion you

621
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: made with all that unlimited money it was the same

622
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: as the one you made before. You couldn't ignore your

623
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: own taste. But it never stopped being fun. Now it

624
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: was so fun and I think just being a young

625
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: child who just like drink like dreamt so much about

626
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: what I wish my life was like and whatever, like

627
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: I would live that life through the SIM And for

628
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: that I think them. I think of them. I wonder if,

629
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: like in twenty years, like you know how people say,

630
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: like there are certain signs of a psychopath, if being

631
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: addicted to playing the sims is like a major will

632
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: become a major sign in the Well, we didn't looking back.

633
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: She did burn a lot of her sims alive. I

634
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: felt empowering, like I feel like that might just happen. Yeah, Well,

635
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: what I would do is that this is this is

636
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: truly crazy. But I would trap them in the bath.

637
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: I would trap them in a room like I would

638
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: I would take the doors off the room and they

639
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: would like hold their like genitals and they had to

640
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: piece so bad, and then they would they just pissed themselves.

641
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: They would fold to the ground, piss themselves and then

642
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: remember when they would have shame turn into an urn.

643
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: Shame shame was such a thing. Or when they would

644
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: faint from being too tired or not keeping fed. Yeah,

645
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: that was insane. This is yeah, this is like what

646
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: war criminals used to have fun. I don't think the

647
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: way we're talking about it. It just it's very soapy, right,

648
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: You're like you would get like like Josie were like,

649
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: I would get these people pregnant. I would like I

650
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: would always like have I would always have people cheat

651
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: on each other like it was. It's it's It helped

652
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: me like develop like creativity in terms of like a

653
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: storytelling instinct to be like, oh, well, now this person

654
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: is gonna do this. I think that's definitely a major factor.

655
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I really I think that a sign of a psychopath

656
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: is maybe that I just remembered the word rosebud was

657
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: the cheat code? Did either of you remember that it

658
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: was rosebud? Because that like that lives in But honestly,

659
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, like the secretary senor brain when

660
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: they go through the filing cabinets and they find something

661
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, not that's still bad.

662
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: How did you find that? Like, I don't know what

663
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: what the fact, I must have been much more obsessed

664
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: than I thought. But I'm telling you I was one

665
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: of those like boring kids that didn't use the expansion packs.

666
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't like figure them out, so I was just

667
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: on the sims to like constantly like rosebudding making a

668
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: man and then have the same like leopard print Lisa

669
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: na floor, like just ridiculous, like going nowhere with my

670
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: design aesthetic, like definitely tacky, buying the biggest phase I

671
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: could and then just killing them inside a million percent. Well,

672
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: there's still a SIMS culture. There's still like a SIMS

673
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: culture that's going on. Oh for sure. I think it's

674
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: like the younger Jenny. Yeah, like the preteens are really

675
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: into it. I think it's younger and younger as time

676
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: goes on. What is it now? Like, like how is

677
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: it evolved? SIMS for and now you can play on

678
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: your phone, which is crazy because I never got to

679
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah that feels that a wheel day to

680
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: play on your phone. Yeah, it feels wrong. There's something

681
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: about like uploading it and like putting it in, turning

682
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: the computer on and like really getting in, really waiting

683
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: for to love you see life. Oh my gosh, wow, PCs.

684
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: They really did reign supreme. They were like the dinosaurs

685
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: of the time. They really were before Matt came in,

686
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Like there were something that ruled the earth and they

687
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: were I'm also bad for them because like they're just

688
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: so they're ugly. They're just like naturally ugly. And I

689
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: could say that because I'm in an Apple series now,

690
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: so I'm I've lost all sense of partnerships. Now that

691
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: you're on an Apple series, you can really be Yeah,

692
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: I can't really share my true veelings, although weirdly, like

693
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: they haven't given me anything, like oh that's a shame.

694
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: Oh it's so weird. I'm like, why do we work

695
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: for you? Actually, when the new iPhone comes out in

696
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: a month, you should tell your people through the Apple reps, like, hey,

697
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: give me a free iPhone. I'm gonna throw on my

698
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: phone into the fucking Scottish river. The day that comes out,

699
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm having to say that it fell out of my

700
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: hand due to the violent wind, and I'm going to

701
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: demand a new phone. Can announce it. It's a it's

702
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: an Apple series. I think it's called The Buccaneers um

703
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: and it is about h hundreds you guys. It's about

704
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: five girls who come to England from New York um

705
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: to like find find husbands. But then like obviously ship

706
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: goes down and they all have their own whatever intentions

707
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: and um objectives. And I play a very character that

708
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: is like extremely against the type of person that you

709
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 1: would see portrayed in those times, if that makes any

710
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: sense at all. But it's not a transcharactor. It's not

711
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: a transparactor. But I just mean, like, my journey is

712
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: very antithetical to like the types of UM stories that

713
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: we've seen, which is called for me, it's called the Buccaneers,

714
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: which means like strong it means cowboy, but pirate basically, basically,

715
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: basically I went to high school in our mascot was

716
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, and I was like, oh, it means gay pirate.

717
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was gay cowboy. It doesn't really mean

718
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: gay pirate. But a buccaneer is a pirate, and that's

719
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: essentially and probably why they called it that is because

720
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: you guys did like go across the ocean to get

721
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: to this new place, right, we did do that, And

722
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: I have always felt that a buccaneer was away for

723
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: a pirate to be like is he you know? You

724
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They called them right, it's a

725
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: gay word for pirate. I feel I love that and

726
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: I think that I should tell them that, and they should.

727
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: They're going to change the series, yeah, man, and I

728
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: can play gay pirates if they made someone I really can't.

729
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: We would that would help us, honestly, But this is

730
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: the thing on this show. You know, I'm so used

731
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: to walking on a set and just being mentally fucking psycho,

732
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: and this is a normal show with like normal people

733
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: who aren't pitching fart jokes and like a monk calling you,

734
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: like breaking his valid silence to call you a count.

735
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Like those are the types of things that like people

736
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: are saying on this type of show. So I'm fully

737
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: like I have to reel it in and then I

738
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: go home and night and I write or I call

739
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: um Tracy Wigfield. We have like weekly calls and I

740
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: get to like show my energy that way, but not

741
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: for it's giving buttoned up, it's giving drama. It's giving

742
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: like an actual actor, which he that's fun. We knew,

743
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: we knew all along. Well, I feel like, I guess

744
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: Matt and I have not done enough, have not done

745
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: any drama. So I feel like the vibe must be

746
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: completely different from a comedy set work. As you say,

747
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: you get to go on and be mentally fucking crazy. Yeah,

748
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: and it works and it's helpful and people love it.

749
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: It's so helpful and like everyone it's weird too, because

750
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: like on a comedy sid you obviously don't just have

751
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: like writers whatever you have like everyone that's involved in

752
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: the crew. But because these people have done like The

753
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: Office and thirty Rock and Mindy Project, like everyone understands

754
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: like a like a joke structure and like the boom

755
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: op will be like we'll laugh in the right way

756
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: or like we'll understand something or like well, get you

757
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: something randomly, or like when you when you get a

758
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: laugh out of like your camera operator, like it means

759
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: so much more to you than then like your writer

760
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 1: telling you that that that joke landed well or something,

761
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: and that energy doesn't exist there. It's still so fun

762
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: and like I still love being on set, but it's

763
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: definitely like an adjustment. Yeah, I always wonder about that

764
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: because even like the like sometimes you do a project

765
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: and like it'll like the comedy will be there, but

766
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily laugh out loud on set just because

767
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: of the type of comedy it is, like probably First

768
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Saved by the Bell, there was a lot of laughter

769
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of hard jokes, whereas like in

770
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: in other things, like for example, when we shot the

771
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: movie Fire Island, like it was definitely a comedy, but

772
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: like the crew was not cracking up because it wasn't

773
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: that type of comedy. Then with with the drama, it's like,

774
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: especially someone coming from comedy who's for better or worse,

775
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: a little bit used to that type of affirmation. After

776
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: you do a take, you do it, and then it's

777
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: a drama and you leave the scene and you're like, well, fuck,

778
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: was it anything? Was it good at all? Like quantify it? Yeah?

779
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: And then like, honestly, like what I've learned with older

780
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: people I've worked with and people more experience, have just

781
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: been like, you have to know, they would not period

782
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: point blank, they would not have moved on if they

783
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't get it. You did just keep going. You're you

784
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: won't kill yourself at the end of the day or

785
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: at the end of a job. If you just let

786
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: yourself off the hook. If they if they got it,

787
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: they moved on, You're fine a thousand percent. And I

788
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: love that you mentioned Fire because you guys have stroked

789
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: my ego so much and I haven't gone to tell

790
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: you how much I loved and watching that film and

791
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: how smart it was and how talented you both are.

792
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: And also obviously um Bo and I've told you how

793
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: much of a fan I am of you, UM with

794
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: UM S and now and like I was, I've also

795
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: been watching I Love That for you recently I just

796
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: got into I'm I'm not kidding, like I just got

797
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: into and you are so amazing and that I feel

798
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: like there's a world where I could play at like

799
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: a forty year old anchor on that show somehow, even

800
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: as my age. Now that's like a goal of yes,

801
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: you have to come on and sell products on the show.

802
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean now, I literally I can sell Frank Ocean

803
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: cock ring. Yes you'd absolutely crush No, but you are.

804
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: You're so funny. And I love Molly Shannon and I

805
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: worked with her when I was younger and just recently

806
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: saw her at an engagement party and not mine, UM,

807
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: this young woman's and she was just so wonderful and

808
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: I love her. She is like she you know what's

809
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: funny about Molly is like everyone always wants to know

810
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: she's like and as you know, this is true. And

811
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: I got to introduce UM bowing to her at that

812
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: award show. Um, she's exactly the same as you think

813
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: she's gonna be. Like her energy is just so like

814
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: funny and positive and very like energetic, and I just

815
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: love watching her get ready to to do her thing.

816
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: Like it probably was really interesting working on the film

817
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: that you worked on with her because she was playing

818
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: a totally different thing, and I think other people like

819
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: really broke her open for everyone as being like more

820
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: of a dramatic actress, which now I think people understand

821
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: and and I love that for you. She's got a

822
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: lot of dramatic moments and we've seen like white Lotus

823
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: and stuff where she's funny, but it's more there's like

824
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: a hef to it. But like watching her prepare herself,

825
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: she really is like it's not like this goofy energy

826
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: that you think, oh snl like comedian, Like we've seen

827
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: her page to a table. She's like really a capital

828
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: a actress and it's very like inspiring to see like

829
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: someone who obviously doesn't take themselves seriously and it's like

830
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: gone for it with sketch comedy, but also can drop

831
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: in and do that other thing a thousand percent. She

832
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: is so wonderfully talented and definitely goes against the tropes

833
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: of like what you might expect of her in that regard,

834
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: and more importantly, she's just so wonderfully humble and kind.

835
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: And I remember in that movie Other People, I had

836
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: like two scenes and she went on like um Jimmy

837
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Fallon and she had like shouted me out. She shouted

838
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: the whole cast out, but like said my name also,

839
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: and it was like Bradley Whitford, like who else was

840
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: like mod Apataw, Jesse Plummins and then she just said

841
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: my name and I was like, what the funk? Why

842
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: did how do you know my name? Because she she

843
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: goes out of her way to find the names of

844
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: people that she loves, Like she she texted me and

845
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: she was like, what was the name of that comedian

846
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: that I did the scene with? I thought she was amazing,

847
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: And she was talking about Martha Kelly Um who's now

848
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: got an Emmy nominated from Euphoria and she comes on

849
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: the show and I love that for you as Molly's astrologer,

850
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: and it's just so funny. And Molly followed up with

851
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: me and was like, I need you to give me

852
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: her email or phone number because I need to reach

853
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: out to her and tell her how much I loved

854
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: her performance. Like that's just who she is. She's just

855
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: a godsend and amazing and I love her, And what

856
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: an amazing moment that you guys were category mates, Like

857
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: you guys were in the same kind, which is crazy.

858
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: That was like six years later. I go from being

859
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: in two scenes of a film starring my idol and

860
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: then you know, suddenly I'm in the same category as her.

861
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: That was just so right. I don't think I'll ever

862
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: process on until I'm like out of work when I'm fifty,

863
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm dreaming of being a child again. You were unbelievable

864
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: in that movie, though, I mean, like it's truly like

865
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: it's like if you remember like two or three things

866
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: from it, like years later after watching it, like you

867
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: are lodged in the brain, like you're so good. I

868
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: think about that film. It's so funny. I have never

869
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: really told us publicly before, but when I filmed that scene,

870
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: I had like it was we were in the middle

871
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: of the summer and it was Santa Karita. It was

872
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: like a hundred and six degrees outside and there was

873
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: no You can't put on air conditioning when you're obviously filming,

874
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: as you you know, because of the noise, and I

875
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: fully had a heat stroke and like nearly my pants

876
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: and Naomi Scott, wife and just an amazing person um

877
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: of Adam Scott was producing the film along with Adam,

878
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: and it was just so kind to me and was

879
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: like I like barely. I basically nearly fainted during the

880
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: turking scene, and so we broke for lunch an hour early,

881
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: and they let me take a shower in the house

882
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: this like random like arabianbasque house, middle class home that

883
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: we were filming at. And I like really got into

884
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: the middle class. Um not I am? I wasn't. I

885
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: really got into this middle class home, this woman's life

886
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: in this middle class home. Um. And I like put

887
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: on her robe like the owner of this house, this

888
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: robe and her slippers, and like I just got to

889
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: chill in her rocking chair for like a tight thirty

890
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: and ate some Chinese food and then was able to

891
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: recover and finish the tarking slay the gig. The fact

892
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: that you remember these details, it's the fact that I

893
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: sounded like Kim Kardashion when she did that middle classes.

894
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: Did you guys see that it was like middle class?

895
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: So you guys will be obsessed with this. No, she

896
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: did an editorial photos shoot that wasn't released with Kanye West,

897
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: where they were in a middle like an upper middle

898
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: class at home, but it was like middle class core

899
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: and like there was like tile counter tops and like

900
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: wooden cabinets and like at just like a living spaces.

901
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of iconic if you haven't seen it. An

902
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: editorial of like them at West Delman being like this

903
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: is too expensive, right, I'm like having a hushed conversation

904
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: about a six snday dollar couch beyond like thank you anyway, Yeah, wait,

905
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: you guys want to know something? This is quick aside,

906
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: I feel so grounded because I have I have maybe

907
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: a taste that's beyond my means sometimes. But I did

908
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: go to the mall here in Charlotte, North Carolina to

909
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: buy an outfit for an under the Sea prom which

910
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: Meg's dalter through last night, and I was like, I

911
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: need to buy something with like fish on it. And

912
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: I went to you didn't know still existed, went to

913
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Dillards and then I went to Dillards and I looked

914
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: at some priced tats for like a shirt and disgusting

915
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: shirt with a fish print on it. Looked at it.

916
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: It was eighty dollars and I went, I'm not spending

917
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: eighty dollars on this, and then I feel like my

918
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: mind and Dillard's reminds me of my mom. But anyway,

919
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I I have not flown too

920
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: far from the nest. I have not really straight from

921
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: the path too much. Because I was like, you know what,

922
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: that wasn't because the eighty dollars was too much, because

923
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: it was too much exactly you would pay for a

924
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: nice shirt. You pay for nice. But then I did

925
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: find a set that costs thirty dollars total, and I

926
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I got a great bargain and I

927
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: really like the way it looks, and I'm gonna I'm

928
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, I'm not. I'm gonna. I'm gonna

929
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: take it home with me like I felt. And this

930
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: is disgusting to most of our listeners, to the readers,

931
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: but I'm like, okay, I do it. Felt nice and

932
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: I want to return to that. That's all I'm saying.

933
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: This is the most unrelatable thing. Yeah, this isn't insane.

934
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: We needed. We're gonna have to do another um like

935
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: podcast with you to save your reputation. After that, I'm

936
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: gonna get shot to the ground. But I want to say,

937
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm financially like an extremely unintelligent spender, like I will

938
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: unfortunately unethically religiously shop clothes only on a song, like

939
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's okay to like spend

940
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: more than fifty dollars for like a shirt. But like

941
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: that being said, I will, like I will cancel like

942
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: three flights in a row and spend like several thousands

943
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: of dollars just because I'm like so lazy and or

944
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: likes something, so like that's where my money goes. It's

945
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: not like on things that matter. It's like convenience that

946
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually am in the same exact boat

947
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: as you. It's like I was just thinking to myself,

948
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: like where what's the area where I sink the most

949
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: money that I probably don't need to And it for

950
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: me it is travel, like I think, I think just

951
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: because now I I like to travel a certain way.

952
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: But that being said, that's the one I'm most cognizant of.

953
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: If I actually like sat here and like did the math.

954
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: How much I've spent on Postmates over the last few years,

955
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: especially over the last five years because of the pandemic.

956
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: My Postmates number is probably humiliated. I probably should go

957
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: to jail for it. Oh my god. Same, I would

958
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: post me like when I was in college. I would

959
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: like film Monday, Wednesday and Friday all day and and

960
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: then on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I would be in class

961
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: for twelve hours a day and I would postmate breakfast, lunch,

962
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: and dinner into my lecture halls. And I was it

963
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: was like a a young woman's salary in Iowa. Was

964
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: my like postman's. But there was no other way you

965
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: could have done like you need like you had such

966
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: a crazy life, and we're sort of like ethic around

967
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: like like whatever, like that's that structure that was built

968
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: around your job and your school and your academics were

969
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: like there was no other way but for you to

970
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: order delivery. That's true. Thank you for substantiating that. Where

971
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: did you go to college and what was your major? Chapman? Right?

972
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: I went to Chapman. Yeah, I went Chapman, and I

973
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: was um. I was a television major, same major in

974
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: same school as Hannah Wattingham, who was also nominated in

975
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: my category. And you also referred to me as Rosie

976
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: when I met her Rosie today, I was truly Am Rosie.

977
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: The rumor has it that she's going to be Madam

978
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: Marble in the Wicked movie. Well, she'll be amazing, and

979
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: anything she does, she'll be amazing. I can hear her

980
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: going officially, I mean, what a great rule. You should

981
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: go out for it. No, okay, as we all No,

982
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: never mind, I want to say that now we we

983
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: That's what the honest Jokie, Josie. Now you've graduated, can

984
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: you have you reflected on your college experience at all?

985
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: What was it? What are the big takeaways? What was

986
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: it like for you? And this this is true. You

987
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: did greek life, you were in a sorority. I did.

988
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: I was talk about it. I did. Was the trauma

989
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: that just rushed through my mind? You know, I have

990
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: such an interesting it really is like a film to

991
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: be made, which was that when I started school. I

992
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: think I did what a lot of people do when

993
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: they start college, which is like, what is the life

994
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: that I want? How do I want to make this

995
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: life for myself? You know, it's like the addiction of

996
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: the possibility, and you're doing everything that you think you

997
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: should be doing to have a good experience, and you're

998
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: hanging out with you know, those people that that you've

999
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: been told through like the media or like friends in

1000
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: the past, like that's what you do to enjoy life.

1001
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,959
Speaker 1: And I'm actually so grateful for it because I met

1002
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: my best friend in the entire world. You mean, who's

1003
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: my co host of of dare we say? Through the

1004
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: sorority um. But I also had like like a miniature,

1005
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: um microcosmic experience of like what I think a lot

1006
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: of people and like not equating what I did in

1007
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: my stority to like what senators do on like a

1008
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: legislative floor, but in that like you can't really adjust

1009
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: and like change something that's like working how it's supposed

1010
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: to be working. And I very much went into it

1011
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: which was like I'm gonna make sorority is good, and

1012
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like diversify and like whatever and use that

1013
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: as a pastime and then realize, like even if everybody

1014
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: wants to make sororities good or whatever that means, or

1015
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: like change the systemic oppression that it's so rooted in,

1016
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: it's still built in a system to oppress and it

1017
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: will always do that. So that was the journey that

1018
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: I went on with that, But I also had so

1019
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: many fun parties and like metatanical people. That's great, but

1020
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: it is sad to realize, like, oh, it's maybe sororities

1021
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: are supposed to be not good. I think so, and

1022
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: like I'm happy that I did it. I like, it's

1023
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: so it's crazy now because I truly had an ego

1024
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: death my like my last semester of school, where like

1025
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: I realized, I just I wanted to do every single

1026
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: thing that I didn't. I think a lot of people

1027
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: do every single thing that I didn't get to do

1028
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: up until that point that I would have wanted to

1029
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: do if I didn't have like my blinders on telling

1030
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: me like what I needed to do. And that was

1031
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: like invest in the film school and like I took

1032
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: another Arabic class, I took a political science class, and

1033
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: I just had like the most amazing time every weekend

1034
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: being on a film set and like I was, you know,

1035
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: obviously filming like not real TV show, but like a

1036
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: TV show that existed on a on a network on

1037
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: it like and then also doing like um, being a

1038
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: grip on like a student film on the weekends at

1039
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: the same time and running right forth. And that was

1040
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: such an amazing experience. And that was like my favorite

1041
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: probably that's so cool. Yeah, great, that is. It's like

1042
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: it's like really a good excuse to get like at

1043
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: least still not not necessarily well rounded, because I feel

1044
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: like that happens when you get in the industry, and

1045
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: you already were in the industry, so it probably was

1046
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: like even like a better opportunity for you to see

1047
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: like having been involved in the industry, here are the

1048
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: holes where I would want to, like, you know, have

1049
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: this experience or that experience. And then I guess it

1050
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: ended up, you know, with you being a grip for sure,

1051
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: which was insane. Um that was truly unhinged. It was

1052
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: like I was doing like an F forty five workout

1053
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: that like never ended, and it was like boot camp,

1054
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: and like my my grip guy was like making making

1055
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: like jokes about like chicks to me, like as if

1056
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: I was like assist a man. He was like, you're

1057
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: not gay, and I was like no, I'm just like

1058
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm just scripping for to help out and like OK, no,

1059
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm just scripping the help scripping. What was your grip

1060
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: out fit? What would you wear? What would you wear

1061
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: to where? What? What is colloquially referred to as a

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: lue lemon BBL jacket UM, which is like exactly it is,

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00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: and um on TikTok and then um like like a

1064
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: little a line legging um just like a cute sneak.

1065
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: It's giving soccer, it's getting big little lies. It's giving

1066
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: like soccer mom in Monterey. And I also had COVID

1067
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: the entire time that I was a grip on that project,

1068
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: and I had no idea. I had not when I

1069
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: kept testing negative and then I tested positive, but I

1070
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: didn't infect anyone given. Isn't that amazing. It's like sometimes

1071
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: like I will feel horrible and I'm like, I have COVID,

1072
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: I know it, and then everyone really will have and

1073
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I'll test test test tested. I went to like what

1074
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: I found out later was a super spread straight wedding

1075
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: last month, and I felt like horror bowl during it.

1076
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: After it, like I was just like, what's going on?

1077
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: I took a million tests, never said it was COVID,

1078
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: and and now I just have to keep living my

1079
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: life like I didn't have it again. But I'm like weird.

1080
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: It's also weird to like it seems like before everyone

1081
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: like test positive for COVID, they managed to see like

1082
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: every single person they've ever met, like the hours leading

1083
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: off to it, Like I truly I went on a

1084
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: world tour before I tested positive. I like filmed an

1085
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: entire short film. I went to an after party for

1086
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: my castmates film. I saw my parents, I saw my siblings. Um,

1087
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: I like went to class. I went to several classes

1088
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: like unmasked, there was no mass mandate and like no,

1089
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: I texted every single person, And it's just it's such

1090
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: a testament to like how we've evolved in the pandemic.

1091
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: I like put everyone in one of my classes in

1092
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: a group chat and was like, hey, um, just like

1093
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: wanted to like fully let you guys know full disclosure.

1094
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: I did test pause different COVID. I know, I was

1095
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: sitting next to you guys, like, please let me know

1096
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: if I need to pay for any COVID tests or

1097
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: like any if I need to call someone for you, UM,

1098
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: hit me up at any time, like xl x L.

1099
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: She was like to pay for tests, Oh my god.

1100
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: Like one person responded and was like l O l okay,

1101
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: like and then no one else responded, Like it was

1102
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: as if I had just just said absolutely nothing to them,

1103
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: like I had spoke gray matter and they didn't give

1104
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: a fuck, And I just confessed my soul to them.

1105
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's what you were very vulnerable, and they

1106
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: did not return it in kind. That's they didn't care.

1107
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: They didn't care. Well, okay, was my my have a

1108
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: stupid question, which is was was Disneyland like a big

1109
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: part of going to Chapman or no? Because you guys

1110
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: are close to Anaheim. I thought it was going to

1111
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: be and I even got a pass and then I

1112
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: like never went. I think it is for some people,

1113
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like, I don't know. It's like,

1114
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: why would you ever really go to Disneyland on and

1115
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: off day? If you think about it, if you could

1116
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: really do anything else, Like, why would you want to

1117
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: tire yourself out that much for just virtually no reason? Well,

1118
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: if you're if you're going with the intent to like

1119
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff, you know what I mean? Like,

1120
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: that's the thing is, it's not a relaxing experience if

1121
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: you're going and you're like and we gotta kid, but

1122
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: it's only it's like an adventure. Bone and I have

1123
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: gone before and it's been like we're just doing a

1124
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: leisurely walk We're in California Adventure. We have our little

1125
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: we have our little cocktails. We've taken maybe some shrooms,

1126
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: and we're more vibing. We're more just paying all that

1127
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: money to vibe. I love that. I do love the vibe.

1128
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: And I did do a lot of shopping at Downtown Disney,

1129
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: I will say, because there's like no stores in orang

1130
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: Journey that weren't ran by racist right right, That is

1131
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: a major thing you remember about Orange County is she

1132
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: be conservative? My next or Neuber was fully a Trump supporter,

1133
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: and I was surrounded Yeah, I was like neighbor banged

1134
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: by Blue Lives Matter people, Um what like they were?

1135
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: I was surrounded by Blue Eyes Matter people. Yeah, just

1136
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 1: like I had a little sexy secret of like maybe

1137
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: one day I'll just like right trans on my forehead

1138
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: and see what happens. Because they were so nice to me,

1139
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: because I like, I'm obviously white passing and um, white

1140
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: presenting and like sis straight presenting, and yeah, I just

1141
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: wanted to ruin their day. I dreamed of the day

1142
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: I would tell them let me get over here and

1143
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: the truth. I mean, but to the way the expression

1144
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: neighbor banged, what is really one that's going to live

1145
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: rent free. In my mind, like the people on either

1146
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: side of you, like our neighbor banging it's like hot.

1147
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the title of that. I thought it

1148
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: was addiction to possibility that the neighbor banging away. See

1149
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: what the guest does. Yeah, exclamation point. I mean it

1150
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: could mean many things. One of a small dream that

1151
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: I had actually in quarantine again not by Kirsten Dunns,

1152
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: but by the house to the left. And anyway, we're

1153
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: not going to get into it. Is it a well

1154
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: known person? Um? Actually, I think the mom is well known,

1155
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: but the child is not. Not the child, he's fully

1156
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: an adult. He's like four years old. He's like a

1157
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: fully functioning adult, and that is legal. Anyway, it didn't happen.

1158
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: It didn't happen, ye ha, no, speaking of it didn't

1159
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: happen yet. One segment on this podcast that hasn't happened

1160
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: yet is called I don't Think It's no honey, and

1161
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: it is a sixty second segment that we all do

1162
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 1: when we take a minute which is actually colloquially known

1163
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: as also sixty seconds, and we sort of rent and

1164
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: really get something in pop culture that we absolutely can't

1165
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: believe hasn't been taken down at this juncture. Um, I

1166
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: do have something bout and yang. Okay, this is Matt Rodgers.

1167
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I

1168
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Teresa Judas hair at her wedding,

1169
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: and therefore all Tri State area women's hair at their

1170
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: wedding when they decide to really go for it, we

1171
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: need to take a step back. And I'm talking to

1172
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: all you girls getting ready for the problem in the

1173
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: Tri State area. Everyone getting ready for an event in

1174
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: the Tri State area. If you decide to go big

1175
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: and you tell a Long Island or Jersey hairstylus that

1176
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: you will end up with what happened to Teresa judass Head.

1177
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: I swear to God, and knowing Teresa Judas from the

1178
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,479
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New Jersey, It's not like she knows

1179
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: what camp is. It's not like she turned to her

1180
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: makeup artist in Hairstyuse and said let's go camp. No,

1181
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: someone was either fucking with her or they were just

1182
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: a Jersey hairstyle us that really got licensed to go

1183
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: for it. And I'm telling you, look at the pictures

1184
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: speaking about this wedding as a whole. I can't believe

1185
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: Melissa and Joe weren't there. I can't wait for the

1186
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: new season. I can't believe Jackie and Margaret were there

1187
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: and Melissa and Joe were not. I need to see

1188
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: what happens. But from what I'm seeing right now is

1189
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: all that hair. Trystate Area women take a breath. I

1190
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: don't think that one minute. Honestly, have you seen the pictures.

1191
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: I just saw that article. It's incredible. It's truly shocking.

1192
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm your jaw drops. I've seen it multiple times in

1193
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: the last like twelve hours, and I'm like, oh my god.

1194
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: Every time, I'm like, wow, that's so much hair. Because

1195
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: it's truly the biggest deal wedding of the year in

1196
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: that entire state. I mean, like Dave Mazzoni was joking

1197
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: earlier that like he's on the Jersey shore right now,

1198
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: and people are talking about it everywhere you go, as

1199
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: if she's princess, like yeah, like it's the royal wedding.

1200
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: And then they released some video of her coming out

1201
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: of the church because I guess she got married outside

1202
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: the church. They open the doors and she's looking down

1203
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: and she just looks up and her hair is so

1204
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: big and you just hear the crowd audibly gasp, like

1205
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: and it's just like it truly is like a Jersey

1206
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: fever dream, but knowing it's Teresa and like all the

1207
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: like drama around this wedding and the fact that her

1208
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: dear family is not there because of falling out. I

1209
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: just didn't I couldn't believe it, and just understanding, like,

1210
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: like how heavy that has to feel on your head? Right,

1211
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh wow, that's she wasn't pain all night.

1212
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: And you guys are both wigs queens, I would imagine occasionally, right,

1213
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know what it's like to have them. Yeah,

1214
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: but like they're heavy. When they're big, they're heavy. It's

1215
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: paid well, if they're expensive, if they're if they're nice enough,

1216
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: they're not heavy. Oh I guess that's true. But also

1217
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: just having a wig on period for an extended amount

1218
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: of time is just uncomfortable. No, it's so comfortable and

1219
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: you're sweating and it's like it's like pinning in your

1220
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: head and it's not the good kind of pan. I

1221
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: just couldn't believe that. She was like, Yes, this is

1222
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: what's going to make me feel the best on my

1223
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: wedding day, and it has to be. It has to be.

1224
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, like a solid four feet of

1225
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: hair like it's it's like and it's high too. Are

1226
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: you Are you a Housewives person, Josie, I'm gonna look up.

1227
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I unfortunately, like against all like queer stereotypes. I have

1228
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: barely I've watched a full episode of RuPaul's or Housewives.

1229
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: But that's okay. I'm so in the know. I'm very

1230
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: in the know, like obviously very into Utah and everything

1231
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: that's going on with what's her fuck and what's obviously

1232
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: ter sign very well as I like religiously watched um

1233
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams report on her for some Yes, I'm sort

1234
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: of an adjacent stand right, I got Well, so we're

1235
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: so you're aware of what this wedding means and what

1236
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: and how she's chosen to appear at it a very

1237
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: a very visible wedding. That's that's the thing. It's like

1238
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: she knew that she knew there were there was gonna

1239
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: be eyes on it. Yeah. And also the thing, you

1240
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: know what, we're talking about it, we're talking about it,

1241
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, we're talking about it. But I

1242
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: having been from Long Island, like some some some people

1243
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: I knew, like going to prom and stuff like it's

1244
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: like like beautiful girls, like like very pretty girls. And

1245
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: then they get ready for prom and it's like they've

1246
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: given someone license to put like someone else an adult

1247
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: woman's face on her face and like really blow it out.

1248
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: And like I'll tell you that the changes in skin

1249
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: color that happened. I just what I want to tell

1250
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: people is that you are never going to look good orange.

1251
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: Orange is not the skin tone for anyone. And you

1252
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: think that you'd at least reach back to your four

1253
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: sisters and say, hey, how do I avoid looking like

1254
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: you did on this event that is going to be

1255
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: photographed a lot? And it's like no one has the answer.

1256
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: They keep going, they keep becoming orange, like it's just

1257
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: and it sucks because like I mean, I've seen it

1258
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: happen to people close to me where it's just like

1259
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, getting ready for a sweet sixteen or a

1260
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: prom or like to be a bridesmaid and they come

1261
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: out and you're like Deborah, what You're like, who are you? Mom?

1262
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: Like I don't recognize these girls? I know, I know,

1263
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: I mean, no one looks their best at that time.

1264
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the other thing. Yeah, no one looks their

1265
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: best for the biggest event of their life because you

1266
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: try too hard. Right, That's why people always say, like

1267
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 1: your birthday glam is like always uglier than like your

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 1: every day glam. Yes, you men like I feel like

1269
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: men think that secretly they're like, I just I love it.

1270
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 1: I love thinking about what men think about, you know,

1271
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: because I'm so concerned with the mail I mean, and

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01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, when they get dressed up too much,

1273
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't look so good. And that's one area where

1274
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: we should listen to them. I don't know. I had

1275
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: to had to talk about what Teresa appeared as, um

1276
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: bow and Yang, Are you ready to do? I don't

1277
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: think so, honey, I'm ready. All right, Well, this is

1278
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: a great moment for us all. It's Bowen Yang's I

1279
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, and its time starts now. I

1280
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Republic Records, which is which is

1281
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: a division of Universal Music Group for stalling this Kim

1282
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: Patrick's album and leaving it in this limbo for two years.

1283
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: It leaked this past week and it's excellent. It's a

1284
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: very good album. I don't know how much this has

1285
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: to do with Dr Luke. Dr Luke produced, I think

1286
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: all of it. Um, that's also a problem. I mean,

1287
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: I hope, my hope is that this phrase up came

1288
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: to work with other producers, because I think she is

1289
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: aware and speaking to someone who likes to talk to

1290
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: her about this. Not to name drop, but it's like

1291
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: I think she I think it's it's a good time

1292
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: for her to kind of disengage from that system because

1293
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: it has obviously given her so much, but I think

1294
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: it has also stunted a lot of progress in her

1295
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: career by not letting her release this album. There's great

1296
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: songs on it. If my recommendations are problem at tique.

1297
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: The title track of the album, obviously, cocon At the

1298
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: Future Starts Deeper, is an amazing song sex talk um. Anyway,

1299
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: it's a great album, but it's also a tragic moment

1300
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 1: in her career, and I think I hope she rises

1301
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: from the ashes of this. And that's one minute. I

1302
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: I too listened to it and then joined it a lot,

1303
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: but I only listened to it because she basically tweeted

1304
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: out being like, hey, yeah, go ahead, listen to the album.

1305
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: Because they're not letting me put it out anyway. What

1306
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: what is the deal with labels doing that? It's tough.

1307
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know, it's like a money

1308
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: thing because I watched a video about scissors Um album

1309
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: never like her album never getting released, and it's because

1310
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: her album alone is like without it's a five year

1311
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: old album. It's still like the top five female selling

1312
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: albums every single year since she released it, and so

1313
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: there's no point of them to bring it back. That's

1314
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:13,440
Speaker 1: it's so confounding. I really don't get this damn industry.

1315
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: None of it makes sense. It really all abou bottom

1316
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: line ship. It's all. It's always about bottom line stuff.

1317
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: That's the thing is it seems like it has to

1318
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: all be about like, well, if we're gonna put this out,

1319
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: it has to immediately recoup, and like I feel like

1320
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: the people that are making the decisions on whether or

1321
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: not this music is going to be embraced often aren't

1322
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: the audience for that music. And so that's I guess

1323
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: what's weird about it is it's just like if the

1324
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: people that on these labels are like a certain type

1325
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: of person, like they're not going to understand especially with music,

1326
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: which is so personal and so subjective. It's like like

1327
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: you're making decisions about what's gonna work, but it's like

1328
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: it's just not it's not your thing. So how could

1329
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: you gauge whether or not someone who's like really young

1330
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: and a different type of consumer is gonna like this.

1331
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: But it seems like they're comfortable doing that all the time.

1332
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: It's crazy, I mean, but yeah, her album sounds great

1333
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: and I do hope for more for her because I

1334
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: think she's a great pop star, like and I've seen

1335
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: her live and she's incredible, an amazing voice live and

1336
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: she's so amazing. She's speaking of being on dramas and

1337
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: not being all to be crazy. I did wrap last

1338
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: Friday and night and played Treat Me like a Slut

1339
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: out loud, and then just immediately saw the eyes turn

1340
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: at me, and I was just like, yeah, fucking stuck

1341
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: at I walked outside of my Scottish warehouse was proud. Honestly,

1342
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: it might be the first time the Scottish, like countryside,

1343
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: the Edinburgh of it all like have heard treat me

1344
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: like a slut. I think they were grateful. I mean,

1345
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: that's what I hope. I think I think anyone should

1346
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: be grateful to hear treat me like a slut. I

1347
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: loved slapt pop. I mean slipt pop was huge for me.

1348
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: I I it was. It was a great moment in

1349
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: music of this year. I felt, alright, so it's now

1350
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: become time. It's time for Josie Todez. I don't think so, honey.

1351
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: Now that you've had two examples of how absolutely slay

1352
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: the format much, you have a fucking seizure. Okay, all right,

1353
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: but I'd be really happy if you haven't had any

1354
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: type of health emergency since you're incredible performance and other

1355
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: people and now you're incredible performance today is being accompanied

1356
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: by another health hazard. I love it. I know that

1357
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: would be amazing. Okay, that would be amazing. Toda a Rosies, Yes,

1358
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. Okay,

1359
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: this is my I don't think so, honey. I'm Kloy

1360
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: Kardashian and Trims Thompson welcome their second baby via surrogate.

1361
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: And as a woman, I believe it is very important

1362
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: not to comment other women relationships because you just never

1363
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: know what's going on inside. However, I'm going to and

1364
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: I feel that this is necessary because even though that

1365
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: you're welcoming the baby via a surrogate, I think about

1366
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: it like the fact that when I was very very young,

1367
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: I did get like a slight nose tweak while getting

1368
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: a breathing surgery, and which is why I thank God

1369
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: that I am trans and I can't have my own

1370
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: child because I couldn't bear having my child look like

1371
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: me pre nose jobs. And so I'm like, when you

1372
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: have this baby, even though it's a surrogate baby, he's

1373
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: still going to have the DNA of a cheater and

1374
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: it's going to grow up to be as Tristan Thompson is.

1375
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: For that, I say that I'm disappointed. Um, I mean,

1376
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: I still wish her all the best, but ultimately I

1377
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: kind of just have to say that I feel bad

1378
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: for her in that way. And I don't think so honey, period. Honestly,

1379
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: I have so many questions about the Kardashian women, and

1380
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 1: but then I don't because I understand why they pick

1381
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: who they pick, because none of them are gonna last

1382
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have another media narrative after this. So

1383
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: like I think, like it's I think it's entirely it's

1384
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: entirely by design that Kim Kardashian is like, yeah, I

1385
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: picked Pete Davidson, like you know what I mean, like

1386
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: someone that of course there's an expiration date on it,

1387
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 1: it's Pete. And then like and then we're all watching

1388
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: it like maybe this is the one. It's like, let's

1389
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: not be dumb, Like they do this on purpose, Like

1390
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: Chloe picks this type of guy not because she wants

1391
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: to be happy, because she wants to prolong a media narrative.

1392
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: I think you think I honestly think that she is

1393
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: just a confused queen. Like I truly believe Chloe is

1394
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: a good person, and I just everything they miss the

1395
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: well it sounds like you're saying she should die. Um No,

1396
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: I think that she is good intentioned. I just think

1397
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: when I just think she has a really bad attachment

1398
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: style and it has gone to her and she is

1399
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: crippling anxiety, and she's also very insecure because the world

1400
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: sort of does hate her in some ways. It does

1401
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: hate on her much more than her other sisters do.

1402
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: Because people like love hate on Kim Parnashian, but they

1403
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: hate hate Chloe, do they I love hate? No? People

1404
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: come for Chloe in her looks really more than they

1405
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: do any of her sisters, and even Kim has said that, Yeah,

1406
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: well I guess, I guess I I understand like that

1407
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: that's true, But also feel like Chloe is like the

1408
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: Kardashian of the people, And I feel like probably the

1409
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: hardcore fans of the Kardashians, like gun to their head

1410
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: if they had to say who their favorite Kardashian is, Like,

1411
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 1: I bet Chloe would get a ton of maybe even

1412
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: a majority of those votes. But then I'm not even

1413
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: thinking about like the larger populists that are all familiar

1414
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: with them just because of how they exist. And yeah,

1415
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: probably her, No, But I agree with you, and I

1416
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: think that's a testament to like, when you like let

1417
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: people think that they can be your best friend or

1418
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: that they can just like say anything to you, it's

1419
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 1: like very welcoming and warm, but it also allows people

1420
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: to cross the boundaries and like come for you. So

1421
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is it's her fault. We know that,

1422
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: we know that, Yeah, what you're saying, But what a

1423
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: big week for those at least the three Kardashian sisters

1424
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: Canon and clubbing and and courtinate with the whole Megan

1425
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: Fox thing, I'm like, what is something's going on just

1426
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: in this week alone? I don't know, it's always it's

1427
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: always wild. Well, I guess my perspective on it is

1428
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: just like whenever I hear they're dating someone new, because

1429
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm not, like I'm not like a fan of the Kardashians,

1430
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: Like I'm not. It's kind of like you with watching,

1431
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: like like I'm aware enough of like what goes on

1432
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: with them, like, but every time I hear them dating

1433
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: someone new, whether it's Tristan Thompston or Travis Scott or

1434
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: Travis Barker or Pete Davidson or like whoever, whoever, I'm

1435
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: always just like, not only do they feel interchangeable to me,

1436
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: but they're often just like every relationship has the same

1437
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: vibe of like like because it's also transient, and if

1438
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: you choose to not like like actually think about like

1439
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: what their relationships are, like, it all feels the same.

1440
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: And if you just sit with it and don't don't

1441
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: think about it for like nine months, it will have

1442
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: passed and it gets it's like it is filled by

1443
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: someone else almost immediately. Even even the Kanye thing, even

1444
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: the Kanye thing in the Grand scheme didn't feel like

1445
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: it was taking place over that long period of time

1446
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: because it was just like, yeah, and I still remember

1447
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: her dating Chris Humphries and being married to him. I

1448
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: still it's just like they occupy this weird space where

1449
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm just like, who are they dating? It's like I

1450
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: keep forgetting, But also I always know it's just it's

1451
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: this weird thing. I can't really explain it true, I

1452
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: just you know, I agree, And it's hard to keep

1453
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: up with. And I feel like for most people's mental

1454
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: health is probably easiest not to even though it's hard to.

1455
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: But I was just saying another interview that I feel

1456
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: like Pete's next angle should be like a really hot

1457
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: old person like Jane Fonda or like Share Like I

1458
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: just feel like that would make the most sense for me,

1459
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: or like Selene Dion. Just like that that's where he

1460
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: should go, because you can't after him production and you

1461
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: kind of have to go like either really old or

1462
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: I mean I guess you, yeah, I think really old. Yeah,

1463
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: you can't take an infant. Obviously. What's going to happen

1464
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: is she's going to reinvent. He's going to have all

1465
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: of his tattoos remove he's going to reinvent as a

1466
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: Hollywood leading man. He's going to bulk up a little bit.

1467
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: But I think it honestly helps him that he's not

1468
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: dating her for when that movie comes out where he's

1469
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: like playing that singer pizza good actor. Wait, Joey Ramon,

1470
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's Wow. I didn't realize Academy Award nominee here.

1471
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: It is coming right around the corner. So listen. Dare

1472
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: we say? This was an excellent episode of this podcast,

1473
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 1: and podcast dare we say is going to be one

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna want in your immediate rotation. And I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm imploring all the readers to add this one to

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Speaker 1: the damn Q please. I mean play is read away,

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Speaker 1: read are read reread the house down Boots, And I'm

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Speaker 1: so grateful that you guys allowed me on this zoom

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Speaker 1: call and I'm so happy to be in the podcast space,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love you guys to come. I think we

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Speaker 1: accept any time we could. I don't think so, Honey,

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Speaker 1: girl boss to this to the sky to the time girls,

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Speaker 1: I would love that. That sounds like an incredible opportunity

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Speaker 1: for all of us to girl boss to these guys

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to lose at another award show

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Speaker 1: with you again. I can't wait and to be And

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Speaker 1: by the way, congratulations on your Emmy nom Yes, oh that,

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Speaker 1: but see that's already something that I'll lose, that'll lose.

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Speaker 1: That's not true in which I no, no, no, take

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Speaker 1: the camp take a compliments that you deserve it. But

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Speaker 1: also randomly I just realized I just reprimmended you the

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Speaker 1: way that I just love it dom that he's kind

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Speaker 1: of hot. It was, but something that I thought was

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Speaker 1: really funny. I was like, I was filming like two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I got a text from my mom

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Speaker 1: like when the Emmy noms um came out or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and my mom was like, oh, did you did you

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Speaker 1: text Bowen? Congrats? And I'm like, I'm not, like that's

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Speaker 1: good to friends, but I'm not like super close where

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Speaker 1: we texted cangratulations like of course it would DM me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and like swipe up on selling. But and

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Speaker 1: then like I didn't respond to her because I was filming,

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Speaker 1: And she texted me that night and was like have

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Speaker 1: you texted Bowen? Yeah? Now I'm telling you congrats for

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Speaker 1: my mother on your nomination. That's very nice and from

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Speaker 1: every mom in America COT and congrats. Yeah exactly. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, I can't wait to lose at another

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Speaker 1: award ceremony with you, with with with both of you,

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Speaker 1: and to be neighbor. Banked by Joshua Jackson and jo

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Speaker 1: Only Hope. Um, this has been incredible and thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for coming on. We're major fans, Um and BO.

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Speaker 1: We end every episode with a song. Treat me like

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Speaker 1: a slot, Treat me Harder, Harder, want neighbor. If you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more of that, listen to Slot Pop

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