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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. The bye week rolls on here
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Coyle Yeoman's alongside the back
Speaker 1: to back days of Nick Eatman and Nate Newton, our
Speaker 1: six time pro bowler in our Dallas Cowboys dot Com specialist,
Speaker 1: What was the laugh? I was just like, where are
Speaker 1: you going with with you? Yeah? He's the pro bowler
Speaker 1: and you're you've just been here? What what did Nate
Speaker 1: call you yesterday? Everything? Oh that's right? Yeah? You okay, Nate?
Speaker 1: You could what's finer? Nate? Well you look so sad? Oh? Well,
Speaker 1: I just want to here we go, you guys, it's
Speaker 1: under You know what I'm going. Yeah, you said, you
Speaker 1: say you do that on the show to nothing and
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be here once again with you guys. Man,
Speaker 1: great seeing you. What's with the space suit you got
Speaker 1: on space. You think this is a space suit. It's
Speaker 1: just so I think you're you're gonna feel bad, Nate,
Speaker 1: in a few minutes. If if you do ever feel bad,
Speaker 1: you're about to feel bad. So so the space code.
Speaker 1: It was a little chilly this morning, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily crazy. And I got made fun of last week
Speaker 1: for wearing like multiple layers in thirty five degree weather
Speaker 1: when we did talking outdoors and they were there were
Speaker 1: multiple people that were in the messages saying, man, you're
Speaker 1: dressing like it's five Well, this looks like it's five below, right, Nate.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because you guys brought the
Speaker 1: heat yesterday. So I wanted to be ready today. And
Speaker 1: for those of you who didn't watch yesterday's show, Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, it was a battle for the century in
Speaker 1: terms of moral victories that went back and forth, and
Speaker 1: I wasn't caught off guard. I had I had a
Speaker 1: feeling it was coming. But today I'm better prepared for
Speaker 1: this because I want to just make sure are under control.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that things are good to go.
Speaker 1: I even brought a whistle just in case I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna blow it because we're on air or something. But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that we were we
Speaker 1: were we were civil today between you two, that we're
Speaker 1: all friends, we all are on the same team. Wow.
Speaker 1: So I went out and I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a soccer tag on it, don't don't tell academy. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and return this way. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so I'm calling ever Dare. But it was
Speaker 1: a fantastic show yesterday. Sponsor. It is a sponsor. Yes,
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Speaker 1: fortune outdoors. So always with that being said, I loved
Speaker 1: yesterday's conversation and I want to bring more debate. That's
Speaker 1: why I brought the shirt. Yeah, because I just want
Speaker 1: to be I want to make sure and encourage this.
Speaker 1: You know what I thought it was when I said,
Speaker 1: what are you wearing? Because I see a Navy shirt
Speaker 1: under the Navy under here. I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to wear the Nate Newton shirt. D don't they have
Speaker 1: that from the pro shot. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: have one up there, Nate, pretty sure they did. I
Speaker 1: need to get a Nate Newton. Yeah, there's a n Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to wear that. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna really suck up the Nate here. No I
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, No brought the referee shirt because of
Speaker 1: the back and forth Nate. Just remember though about the
Speaker 1: back and forth. Everybody's tough on WebEx. You know, like
Speaker 1: I could say whatever I want when Nate's sitting over there,
Speaker 1: but Nate's sitting right here. I've been like, you know,
Speaker 1: who needs a moral victory? Right? We don't need that. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you know what, if y'all see me, look look over,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Dallas Cowboys, and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: them versus distillers. It's the first time I looked at
Speaker 1: the tape this week. You're you're watching it while we're
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, And some of these guys are
Speaker 1: playing well now that's all. That's all. Some of these
Speaker 1: guys individually are playing well. Well. Go ahead on Nick.
Speaker 1: It's nothing. There's no such thing. We're not gonna get
Speaker 1: into this today. But I just want to go wherever
Speaker 1: Kyle Yoman wants to go. So he's great followers today.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that name. It's all yours, kay, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a moment here because I was just asked
Speaker 1: this question on the fan about Ezekiel Elliott, and I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to carry it over because I thought
Speaker 1: it was a very good question. But whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to Zeke and the splitting of carries between Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: and Ezekiel Elliot, and I also asked this on Talking
Speaker 1: last week, But I want to hear you you guys's opinion,
Speaker 1: But is Tony Pollard just better suited to run behind
Speaker 1: this specific offensive line or is there a chance that
Speaker 1: Zeke just continues to get twice as many carries even
Speaker 1: though the production hasn't necessarily been there like it has
Speaker 1: in the past. Well, for me, I think that this
Speaker 1: is exactly what the Cowboys wanted out of Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: when they drafted him. They wanted him to be a
Speaker 1: change of pace back come in here, you know, Zeke
Speaker 1: kind of wear them down a little bit, have to
Speaker 1: get those tough, dirty runs or muddy runs, I guess
Speaker 1: is what Kellen Moore called it. And then they wanted
Speaker 1: a quick guy to come in here and really hit
Speaker 1: the hole and give the defense a different look. So
Speaker 1: I it's never you don't need to have a debate here.
Speaker 1: I mean this, in the NFL, you need two backs. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's great to have a lead back, but I mean
Speaker 1: Pollard I think has given them a spark as well.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to change it too much.
Speaker 1: If he needs more carries, that's fine, But I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's going the way it should go. Actually, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't see because I'm sorry, I don't see Pollard.
Speaker 1: I don't see it being flipped. I don't see Pollard
Speaker 1: getting all of the tough third and one third and
Speaker 1: two runs. It's a good point, you know, And I
Speaker 1: agree with your hundred Nick. The thing that makes uh
Speaker 1: Zeke a big issue is that he got paid, and
Speaker 1: so that makes it a big issue. You have a
Speaker 1: running back that you know makes I know meal, and
Speaker 1: you have a running back that makes over twelve meal
Speaker 1: per average. So uh that that's that's the big issue.
Speaker 1: But men, you see it the same way here, Nick,
Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke gets the dirty runs. Zeke. Zeke comes
Speaker 1: in at the beginning of the game, and you see
Speaker 1: the safeties up. Uh do you see the tight ends
Speaker 1: come in closer. Everything is geared to stop Zeke when
Speaker 1: he's in the ball and when he's in the game,
Speaker 1: and obvious rundown situations to ask Tony Pollard's to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we want you in the game, and obvious rundown situations.
Speaker 1: Starting the game, you may not see the reduction that
Speaker 1: you think because where's Zeke. Where's Zeke? May look like
Speaker 1: he got a loss. You always seen the getback to
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And what you're trying to do
Speaker 1: for all offensive coordinators is never putting them behind the chains,
Speaker 1: because it when a quarter, when the ovens a quarter,
Speaker 1: Nata sees that he's behind the chain, you thought pass,
Speaker 1: it becomes the only thing they think about after that,
Speaker 1: You know, Nate don't want to ask you this question.
Speaker 1: I thought about this during the game because it is
Speaker 1: obvious that wherever you're watching on TV and the and
Speaker 1: the at the game, you can see a burst that
Speaker 1: Pollard has that Zeke doesn't happen. So here's my question too,
Speaker 1: especially an offensive lineman who's who's been right there and
Speaker 1: on third and one, here's the play. Would you rather
Speaker 1: have the bigger, stronger, tougher back that can maybe hit
Speaker 1: that linebacker and push forward, or the quicker back that's
Speaker 1: going to hit the hole faster than Zeke, and you
Speaker 1: don't have to block as longer as quick because that
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be right there. Does that? Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. Let me tell you something right now. I
Speaker 1: won't Zeke. I won't Zeke. And until they give it
Speaker 1: to Tony Pollock, if they give it to Tony Poller,
Speaker 1: because I see, if they get rid of Zeke, they're
Speaker 1: gonna go out and get them another back. They're gonna
Speaker 1: go out and get them another back. And until I
Speaker 1: see it. You know, we had a saying here when
Speaker 1: I played, it's one thing to play twenty plays, it's
Speaker 1: another play. It's another thing to play sixty plays. It's
Speaker 1: a whole different animal and a whole different beast. When
Speaker 1: teams say, hey, this is this guy, how do we
Speaker 1: stop him? Now? Can you be elite? And so until
Speaker 1: I see an elite Tony Pollock twenty twenty five carriages
Speaker 1: a week. This all about Zeke still right now, Because
Speaker 1: every time we needed a third and one, a third
Speaker 1: and two, it was Zeke. It won Polot. They ain't dumb.
Speaker 1: I mean, they give this kid his series, and they
Speaker 1: give him his plays, and they and they give him
Speaker 1: they and they cater to what he does best. I mean,
Speaker 1: and Zeke still got some punch because it takes a
Speaker 1: little punch to get that extra yard when somebody in
Speaker 1: the midstate block. I don't think we're disagreeing, as he
Speaker 1: may not be as fast or as quick as this kid,
Speaker 1: but he has some punch, so it's explosive. It more
Speaker 1: like more like a Bruce Bee two inch punch, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm just saying so you personally
Speaker 1: would take a bigger, stronger, heavier physical back than maybe
Speaker 1: the quick, agile back as in terms of you as
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, that's what you would prefer. I know,
Speaker 1: I take backs as they come like it. Like Bell
Speaker 1: that used to run for the Stellers in the Jets,
Speaker 1: now with Kansas City, he runs a totally different style.
Speaker 1: I'll take that site. He's very patient. See the Holy
Speaker 1: explodes ste it where Girla used to be where Girla
Speaker 1: had a thousand different speeds when he used to be
Speaker 1: with the Ram. Each back is different. And you look
Speaker 1: at that kid from None of Soda, you know he
Speaker 1: has a different style. I mean, he don't always hit
Speaker 1: it ninety going north, but lately his hole has been
Speaker 1: big enough to when he hit it, it is ninety
Speaker 1: going north. So each back brings a little bit different.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was blessed enough to see Barry Sounders
Speaker 1: up close, and I was blessed enough to block for
Speaker 1: him and Smith, two totally different backs. People keep saying, hey,
Speaker 1: when you rather block for him for Barry Sounders. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want to block for Barry senderc Barry Sunders.
Speaker 1: If I said we're going to the right, Barry gonna
Speaker 1: be over there to the left. So to each his
Speaker 1: own brother. So just what the punish young man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see this young man go twenty five, twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five reps a game. You know, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: that type of back. I think he is great at
Speaker 1: what he's doing. I think Kelly Moore and the head
Speaker 1: coach is doing a great job. And how they're using it. Man,
Speaker 1: so y'all keeping them mixed blow it sounds like where
Speaker 1: you need man nick man niggas And he's not. And
Speaker 1: I don't think Tony Pollard is trying to look for
Speaker 1: moral victories. I think he's trying to get to but
Speaker 1: he is trying to get to the end. Everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to get to the end zone, but specifically with with
Speaker 1: the fact that you do have these two guys, and
Speaker 1: that's what we wanted going into the to the season,
Speaker 1: That's what we wanted going into training camps. You wanted
Speaker 1: the lightning and the thunder from Zeke and Pollard. Now
Speaker 1: one of them is getting paid more than the other
Speaker 1: one by a lot. And this was the question that
Speaker 1: I was asked on the fan that I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to get to. But is Ezekiel Elliott the worst
Speaker 1: contract on this team because of the lack of production
Speaker 1: that he's shown this season and of course the kind
Speaker 1: of salary cap chunk that he takes up. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean as soon as he signs the deal, it's
Speaker 1: a bad contract. I mean, you know, that's just the
Speaker 1: way it is. Is is great player, bad contract. That's
Speaker 1: that happens. I mean, Um, that happened because you wanted
Speaker 1: to keep him. He wanted to keep him, and he's
Speaker 1: sitting in there in Cobo as you're in training camp
Speaker 1: and you're trying to sign I mean, they leverage that. So, um,
Speaker 1: is it the worst contract? Not on the team? I
Speaker 1: think we know on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: there's probably a worse one. But but that's that's not
Speaker 1: because I mean I'm talking about Jalen Smith, because I
Speaker 1: think I think Jalen and well or d Law. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean he's playing really well last few weeks.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's healthier and all that. But man,
Speaker 1: for the contract, twenty one million a year, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot. You're you gotta have a double digit sack
Speaker 1: guy there. So there's some there's some challenging contracts, without
Speaker 1: a doubt, and the same thing is gonna happen to Dak.
Speaker 1: Dad's gonna get paid, and every interception and every lost
Speaker 1: fumble is gonna be magnified way more than it is
Speaker 1: right now. It's a good point, Nate. Do you agree
Speaker 1: it's there's some people in with the Carolina Panthers thing
Speaker 1: today a guy who's just signed a new contract is
Speaker 1: it was a wasted contract. All you gotta do is
Speaker 1: get hurt, FuMB of the ball, a thought interception, and
Speaker 1: it becomes the worst contract in the Zeke case and
Speaker 1: Ezec case. As a running back, Uh, when you were
Speaker 1: a productive his first two years, the way he was
Speaker 1: very explosive making those plays offensive line, I mean he
Speaker 1: leveraged it, and uh, now things ain't working as well.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Man, we got a long ways to
Speaker 1: go in this season, and there's always next year. I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll get rid of Zeke next year, at
Speaker 1: at least I don't know. I don't know how the
Speaker 1: money works. Uh, stuff like that. You're a little more well.
Speaker 1: I did look at him when it comes to stuff
Speaker 1: like that, Nick, I did look at it. It's it
Speaker 1: doesn't and they get rid of him next not no,
Speaker 1: especially with the solar cap expected to go down. It's
Speaker 1: really not good. It's not even good for Jalen Smith either.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Smith would be an absolute wash. I
Speaker 1: believe if you cut him at June first and first year,
Speaker 1: So is that better to just have him off the team?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one thing if a guy's a bad
Speaker 1: locker room guy and you gotta get get him off
Speaker 1: the team. But I don't see him that way. So
Speaker 1: it's like, would you rather or just you know, pay
Speaker 1: It's like nine million to keep him, nine million to
Speaker 1: cut him, plus you got to get another guy on
Speaker 1: top of that to fill it. So I think you
Speaker 1: got to roll with that and roll with Zeke as well.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'd like to get this offensive line
Speaker 1: back rolling, to get the healthy guys again, and I
Speaker 1: think Zeke would would look better well. And I think
Speaker 1: the whole mindset around this front office right now is
Speaker 1: let's run it back. I mean, we've talked about that
Speaker 1: on this show before, and Rob Phillips was the one
Speaker 1: that kind of came up with that and talked about it.
Speaker 1: But whenever you went into this year, you looked at
Speaker 1: the talent at each position offensively and said, we're good
Speaker 1: enough to make a run here. We're good enough to
Speaker 1: win a lot of games with what we have on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football. Now you get a
Speaker 1: chance to add to the defense this off season. And
Speaker 1: I know we're a long way from the off season,
Speaker 1: but you can already see the growth of this defense.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that coming up in the next segment.
Speaker 1: But there are so many different things on this offense
Speaker 1: that went wrong this year that you feel good coming back.
Speaker 1: You feel good because your offensive line is gonna get healthy.
Speaker 1: You feel good because there's a chance that a Elliott
Speaker 1: plays better next year, that Dac will be back and
Speaker 1: healthy and you can build around him some more. So,
Speaker 1: I think whenever it comes to this defense, Blake Darwin,
Speaker 1: there's another one exactly. So there are so many things
Speaker 1: that went wrong. You don't want to make these ratch
Speaker 1: decisions right now. And I think that's probably the smart
Speaker 1: way of going about it, and that's why the front
Speaker 1: office thinks that way. I'll tell you like this, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we're having a bad season, but I'm like, I say,
Speaker 1: I look at this team totally different this past game.
Speaker 1: You still had the same right tackle issues, but coaches
Speaker 1: did a better job of helping this kid. The left tackle,
Speaker 1: cam Irvan played better than everybody thought. The inside guys
Speaker 1: played good. We know what the right guard is, we
Speaker 1: know what the center is. The left guard played Okay, brother,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you something. The quarterback is always gonna make
Speaker 1: the difference, and we had one in there this week
Speaker 1: that helped make a difference. Yes, and I hear a
Speaker 1: lot old the Pittsburgh still has one enthusiast. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you know what crush that. You know, that's why we
Speaker 1: got to get his kid another chance to see if
Speaker 1: if if he's a worthy opponent for the backup position
Speaker 1: next year. I mean, this offense moved the ball, this
Speaker 1: defense played well, so now let's build on that and
Speaker 1: try to see what we can do this after this
Speaker 1: bye week man with Minnesota, because this offensive line is
Speaker 1: not as bad as everybody want to say, and yes,
Speaker 1: getting those pieces back to solidify a lot of things
Speaker 1: and help in a lot of different areas. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, coach Philbin, he's my coach of the year,
Speaker 1: you know, which I thought the special team coach would be,
Speaker 1: but the earlier people was kind of threw him, kind
Speaker 1: of threw it off. Well, you mentioned the defensive improvement
Speaker 1: and I teased this a moment ago. Let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about that defense and how exactly they've improved in some
Speaker 1: things that even with injuries, you can look forward to
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season when we come
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Speaker 1: we mentioned the defense last time. By the way, Nick Eatman,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kyle Ooman's here on Talking Cowboys second segment,
Speaker 1: and we talked about the defense, and Nate you mentioned
Speaker 1: hollo Okay, hold on, okay, okay, hold on man, hold on.
Speaker 1: It ain't by the way, it's Nick Eaton and Nate Newton.
Speaker 1: And by the way, as you okay you by the way,
Speaker 1: oh I know, oh yeah, no, I know. I'm the
Speaker 1: by the way. I was introducing us all in that
Speaker 1: that that that thing, because I usually do it at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the segment and I didn't, and so
Speaker 1: I just wanted to slip that in. No it's good, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the only one here. You've gotten him for a
Speaker 1: zebra though I ain't got Oh, you just don't have
Speaker 1: any respect for them. For the rest, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: you're the official one throwing the flag. False start. That's true.
Speaker 1: That was a delay of game. Goodness, gracious, Nate, Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come with you at this question then, just
Speaker 1: just since you you wanted to wanted me to be
Speaker 1: the by the way, So whenever it comes to this defense,
Speaker 1: we've seen improvement on the defensive line, a little bit
Speaker 1: in the secondary, but they've kind of been banged up
Speaker 1: at different times this year. Which one of those two
Speaker 1: units have improved the most since Week one and which
Speaker 1: one do you feel better about moving in to the
Speaker 1: second half of the season. D line has improved the
Speaker 1: most by subtraction. M the day they got rid of
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, the day they traded a couple
Speaker 1: of guys, that the defensive line got better tremendously. And
Speaker 1: if we would have done this six weeks ago, seven
Speaker 1: weeks ago, our secondary would not be in the shambles
Speaker 1: that it is in now. And that's just how I
Speaker 1: feel about that. So you think the defensive line earlier
Speaker 1: in the season, if they would have played the same
Speaker 1: exact way, that we wouldn't be talking about three weeks ago, Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay talking about this defensive the same light. Okay. It
Speaker 1: would have taken them time to acclimated themselves to the
Speaker 1: system and the coaches. It took them time to see
Speaker 1: where these players were in the system. But by now
Speaker 1: these young guys would have get gotten more reps. And
Speaker 1: minus Randy Gregory because he couldn't be here because it's
Speaker 1: a suspension. But the other guys that Gallamore's uh, the
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, how he adjusted the plan in Tynrone Crawford,
Speaker 1: he would have got more snaps and maybe that maybe
Speaker 1: they was trying to get these guys acclimated. That's why
Speaker 1: they kept the other guys as long as they did.
Speaker 1: But when they took away those other guys, these guys
Speaker 1: here saw their opportunities and they're taking it and they're
Speaker 1: growing within the system. And I'm talking about the defensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the question is about the whole defense the right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, which one you feel better about, Well, I
Speaker 1: think it starts. I think it definitely starts the secondary
Speaker 1: or D line. And the reason the reason is, like
Speaker 1: you said, Poe and and Griffin. I don't think everything
Speaker 1: Griffin ever bought into the system. This was this wasn't
Speaker 1: what he is used to doing, and he made it clear,
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess he after a while, it
Speaker 1: just it just wasn't clicking, and they knew that, and
Speaker 1: they got they shipped him out of here. But um,
Speaker 1: I think d Law's health is better, way better, and
Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see him be a lot
Speaker 1: more active. Um. I think that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 1: I think that getting po out of here, putting Gallimore in,
Speaker 1: even um Hamilton when he came in, I mean he
Speaker 1: was he was better. Those guys are just better. Those
Speaker 1: are So that's where it starts there. But I also
Speaker 1: think you can't overlook the fact that Trayvon digs his
Speaker 1: confidence got He's getting better and better each game. Yes,
Speaker 1: he gives up some plays, He's starting to make a
Speaker 1: few more plays. Donfrid Wilson's made more plays in the
Speaker 1: back end. So I think it starts at the d line.
Speaker 1: But I thought you're starting to see the ripple effect.
Speaker 1: Now I think it maybe just hurdled the linebacker position
Speaker 1: because I don't really see a huge difference there. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, but hopefully the defensive tackle position, Gallimore can
Speaker 1: if he keeps making plays like that, knocking Pouncy back
Speaker 1: on his ass like that, then those linebackers are gonna be,
Speaker 1: you know, free to do more things and hopefully you'll
Speaker 1: see a benefit there. Now, you mentioned Donovan Wilson back there,
Speaker 1: and I kind of want to talk about him as well.
Speaker 1: What have you seen differently from him from a safety
Speaker 1: position that he didn't necessarily have early in the year. Well,
Speaker 1: he's physical. Well I'll say this. I'll say this for
Speaker 1: the first time, and you can ask Chris Beam. I
Speaker 1: screamed in there because for the first time I saw
Speaker 1: a safety back deep with the with the with with
Speaker 1: a cornerback running with the wide receiver down the sideline
Speaker 1: and I saw a safety early in the game back
Speaker 1: deep making a play on the ball. When the last
Speaker 1: time we've seen that here this year? Something simple? Is that? Man?
Speaker 1: Something as simple as that. I'm looking at it again.
Speaker 1: I'm like, even Donovan Wilson went crazy, like, man, I
Speaker 1: made it. Back here, they sitting up looking at the
Speaker 1: end of the quarterback ten yards behind the receiver and
Speaker 1: you're talking about that one, the one where it was
Speaker 1: basically inside the five yard line, down the left side
Speaker 1: line and yes him, yeah, a light in front of
Speaker 1: Deontay John and digs. It was funny being and Jim
Speaker 1: Nancy even said this, but he was like they kind
Speaker 1: of or Tony said it actually that they kind of
Speaker 1: hurt themselves because they were both in the same spot
Speaker 1: to make a play on the football and Deontay Johnson
Speaker 1: was back. Yeah, and I think that's something that has improvement.
Speaker 1: You mentioned. Turned out to be a good play though,
Speaker 1: just because I'll tell you this, because they catch that ball,
Speaker 1: that's first in goal. I mean, I'm sorry, that's first down,
Speaker 1: first and ten at the two or three yard line
Speaker 1: for Garrett Gilbert to come out and make his first
Speaker 1: play right there in the end zone. Instead it was
Speaker 1: a punt. I think it was a touchback twenty yard
Speaker 1: line or maybe what space maybe was a touchback, but
Speaker 1: it was definitely a lot more space for him to
Speaker 1: come out and his first you know, the first thing.
Speaker 1: So I thought it would have been cool to having
Speaker 1: an interception, but it would have been almost like a
Speaker 1: punt for Pittsburgh to have him pinned back. Was that
Speaker 1: on third down or second down though, because I think
Speaker 1: there was a play in between that. Yeah, second next play,
Speaker 1: what's cool. Almost got beat the next next play, he
Speaker 1: almost got twenty six, almost got beat by Chase Claypool.
Speaker 1: You're right, George Lewis on that scene route up to
Speaker 1: the right side, and Claypool was the receiver there. So
Speaker 1: le me, I ask you this. I don't know where
Speaker 1: you're going next. But but thirty seven he's playing better, okay,
Speaker 1: He's making some plays. You see some interceptions already, see
Speaker 1: a fumble, you see some places in the two point conversion.
Speaker 1: The other safety? Is he the most neutral player you've
Speaker 1: ever seen? Talking about Xavier Woods? Yeah, I mean, just
Speaker 1: name the bad plays. I can't think of a ton
Speaker 1: name the good plays. It's just a neutral player and
Speaker 1: you need more than that, obviously, But I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll ask, I'll ask name that as a safety. The
Speaker 1: last line of defense is that, Are you okay with
Speaker 1: having a neutral player because no, no, no, he ain't
Speaker 1: the same guy selling college man. Well the man competition
Speaker 1: might be better. Yeah yeah, Louisiana techasi no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. Let's and to me, you went to
Speaker 1: the senior boor now I went you to Florid. I
Speaker 1: went to Florida and him I was a free agent, true,
Speaker 1: Barry Church was a free agent solo. It don't matter
Speaker 1: once you get here. But you asked, dud I like
Speaker 1: a neutral safety, you either gotta be back there knocking
Speaker 1: down balls or making interceptions, up in the line, making tackles,
Speaker 1: And when you're doing neither, you're talking about neutral. No.
Speaker 1: Nine times out of ten, if you put him on
Speaker 1: top of a hill and put him in neutra, you're
Speaker 1: gonna run down to hit something. Ain't gonna be. Ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be what It's long And that's what should happen.
Speaker 1: Isn't that What isn't that what a safety is supposed
Speaker 1: to be though, isn't it supposed to be that safety
Speaker 1: blanket the fact that you've got him back there. I
Speaker 1: know you want plays to be made, but if you
Speaker 1: have a strong safety for the season, though, I want
Speaker 1: plays to be made. That's what I'm saying. I can't
Speaker 1: think of a play. And I don't dislike him or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, I don't like the comment that
Speaker 1: he made. Yeah I was that that wasn't a good comment.
Speaker 1: But I don't dislike him. I just he just doesn't
Speaker 1: make any plays. You're not right. But it doesn't make
Speaker 1: any plays really for the other team either, which is
Speaker 1: that's a big deal too at safety. I just I
Speaker 1: think I think you would probably prefer a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I mean he had a chance to make a diving interception.
Speaker 1: Would have been a great play. Yeah, didn't didn't make it.
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you guys this, just because he's
Speaker 1: been a neutral safety doesn't mean he's a neutral player.
Speaker 1: He just may have to be a neutral safety because
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a whole lot of help back there.
Speaker 1: Now you're starting to see some help with Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 1: You're hopefully seeing in emerging of Wilson as maybe that
Speaker 1: other safety. You're a sense bro, Well, let me get
Speaker 1: to my plot. Haven't gotten to that point yet. I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the point yet. He hasn't had he
Speaker 1: hasn't had help safety wise. He's been the only solid
Speaker 1: player back there. And I'm saying solid as as in
Speaker 1: non mistake, non big play safety. Is that maybe him
Speaker 1: playing conservative overplaying aggressively. But now you can start seeing
Speaker 1: them to play. He had a running back coming here.
Speaker 1: We had Cleveland come in here and hit us for
Speaker 1: almost eight thousand yards rushing. They put him in there,
Speaker 1: They put him in the box. He he they put
Speaker 1: him in the box. They put him up in the box.
Speaker 1: When you come up in the box, you are being
Speaker 1: the the these You are the seventh guy in the box,
Speaker 1: and you normally got the back the back gaps when
Speaker 1: he ain't tacking nobody yet. So if you're up in
Speaker 1: the box and you're missing tackles, how how how are
Speaker 1: you new? How are you okay? So what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say here, what I'm trying to say here is
Speaker 1: whether you're back deep up close, you have to make
Speaker 1: plays to help your team win. If you're a neutral guy.
Speaker 1: If you're a neutral guy, always you're not You're no
Speaker 1: good to your team. Thank you? Okay, it's no. So
Speaker 1: you're either going up and helping your team. Are you
Speaker 1: going down? Because when you're neutral, you got to go Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that's my next That was my next question here
Speaker 1: is that he's a free agent, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of holes on defense. You got
Speaker 1: to figure out stuff on the secondary. But like, is
Speaker 1: is he in your future? I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: do with with Xavier Woods? Do you let him go
Speaker 1: to free agency? See what happens? I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: a top priority to resign, but then again, you don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys behind him. How much is
Speaker 1: he gonna be on the open market though? How much?
Speaker 1: What is his value right now to not only just
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, but any other team in terms of contract.
Speaker 1: You may be able to get him back for a
Speaker 1: bit of a discount. I think that's going to be
Speaker 1: one of those. After a week or free agency, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. He was up happening. I know we're
Speaker 1: getting ahead of ourselves, but I mean he's been here
Speaker 1: with what three years? Yeah, he's you know when I
Speaker 1: say about neutral though, he doesn't feel up A lot
Speaker 1: of players just doesn't make it any fellas. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, Kyle, that's why, uh men, you gotta watch.
Speaker 1: You watch a game together. You know that you know
Speaker 1: that has been played and watching men, we watch it
Speaker 1: with church from a from a defensive back perspective, and
Speaker 1: we watch it with stand back from an offensive so
Speaker 1: we so we all know what they are thinking and
Speaker 1: what they are seeing. And when you have a guy
Speaker 1: that you can go a whole game and you and
Speaker 1: you never hear his name, You expect that from offensive
Speaker 1: lineman only. You don't expect that from secondary players. You
Speaker 1: want to hear secondary player's name one way or the other.
Speaker 1: You want to hear your linebacker's name one way or other.
Speaker 1: That means plays either being made or players are being
Speaker 1: made on you. You we are two and six talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that's neutral, and then we talk about
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson and we're talking about guys trying to make plays.
Speaker 1: It's a difference there, right. I told you took that
Speaker 1: moral victory, didn't even give him a loss. Two and
Speaker 1: seven eight, two and seven. Yeah, we're two and seven
Speaker 1: eights unless you counted that. Okay, we're two and seven.
Speaker 1: And now you're two and seven or two and six
Speaker 1: or whatever. You are seven you you are, you are
Speaker 1: looking to be better. And the players you got on
Speaker 1: the field, you went and you got Donovan Wilson. It
Speaker 1: took y'all scrape in the bottom of the barrel to
Speaker 1: find this player who is trying to make plays for you.
Speaker 1: That's why I say there's no more victims cause players.
Speaker 1: You're looking for players and our guys that are improving
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. And Donovan Wilson, remember a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, he was our best player, doing it,
Speaker 1: doing the doing the training camp, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden the season start, he disappears. Why did he disappear?
Speaker 1: Was that a coaching thing, a scouting thing he just
Speaker 1: didn't couldn't play because like to me, he can play.
Speaker 1: It looks like that. I mean, every time he's back
Speaker 1: out there, he's at least doing something. Like you said,
Speaker 1: it's not a neutral thing with Donovan Wilson, and I
Speaker 1: think he's made a couple of plays that have really
Speaker 1: stuck out and have made you really feel better about
Speaker 1: the secondary position or excuse me, the safety position. Now, Nate,
Speaker 1: you mentioned how that evaluation process is ongoing, and especially
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Speaker 1: Cowboys and final couple minutes here guys, and I tease
Speaker 1: this going into the break. You're speaking of the coaching
Speaker 1: staff and two and seven. Your your record is or
Speaker 1: you are what your records say is as you are,
Speaker 1: and you're two and seven, so you're not a very
Speaker 1: good football team right now. However, there's been coaching that
Speaker 1: has started to turn the corner a little bit, or
Speaker 1: at least it looks that way over the last two
Speaker 1: weeks against Philadelphia and against Pittsburgh. So, Nate, I ask
Speaker 1: you the question to start us off, which unit offense, defense,
Speaker 1: special teams has seen the biggest improvement and has had
Speaker 1: the best coaching job through week one up until now
Speaker 1: here in the bye week. Off A line, baby, officsive
Speaker 1: line both. Oh, we lost both tackles and and and
Speaker 1: during the season, we've lost guards, we've lost centers, and
Speaker 1: coach Philban has kept this thing going and and and
Speaker 1: that connects to the offensive coordinator, who I'm very critical of,
Speaker 1: and to the head coach because this is an offensive
Speaker 1: minded thing we're talking about here. They have kept this
Speaker 1: thing going except for one game, a couple of games,
Speaker 1: but where it all fell apart when the president felled,
Speaker 1: you know, failed to blow to the head, you know,
Speaker 1: a long shot, riping shot to the head. But yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, so this thing is good, you know, not
Speaker 1: just the concussion. They tried to assassin. They tried to
Speaker 1: assassinate the president. It didn't happen. You missed one week, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: really that's probably not a good one. Um, it was
Speaker 1: good for me. Yeah, yeah, right, that's right. Make sure clarify. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a tough one because he's right, there's
Speaker 1: no position that's been you know, changed as much as
Speaker 1: that now quarterback position has changed a lot, but we've
Speaker 1: seen some really bad play at time too. Like now,
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I thought Kellen Moore and did a
Speaker 1: really good job of managing that game or or or
Speaker 1: getting a system for Garrett Gilbert and that you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was. There was a combination off. They
Speaker 1: had tricked it up a little bit, but they also
Speaker 1: was kind of old school as well. And I thought
Speaker 1: I thought Gilbert did a really nice job for him
Speaker 1: to be as comfortable with the checks. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was changing plays at the line of Scrimmont him. He
Speaker 1: looked very very comfortable there. Um. I think the one
Speaker 1: reason why I don't know, if let me let me
Speaker 1: answer the question, though, I think I'd have to go
Speaker 1: with Nate on that on offensive line because there's no
Speaker 1: other position. Wow, what who else is? Who? Who else?
Speaker 1: Would it be? Like my thought process, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: defensive line, go with Jim tom Sula. Just the fact
Speaker 1: that the defensive tackles are young guys that are the
Speaker 1: ones making the plays. But you could also fault him
Speaker 1: for not getting the best out of a pro bowler
Speaker 1: and every driven a veteran and Dantari post, so you
Speaker 1: could fault him at the same time. I'm just interested.
Speaker 1: I was. I'm surprised that both of you went with
Speaker 1: offensive line though, because right now, if you look at
Speaker 1: twenty twenty as a whole, what is the number one
Speaker 1: biggest detriment to this team, and it's the injuries to
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Right yeah, Well, who do you give
Speaker 1: to Adam Henry the receiver's coach. No, no, you can't
Speaker 1: do that. These guys were talented already. No no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no no. I mean that's what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: I agree, Nate. It's offensive line by default, by fault
Speaker 1: because they did get their ass kicked in Washington. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh they did big time. Oh yeah. But but not
Speaker 1: having Zach Martin was was big there. And that's why
Speaker 1: I think Andy Daltons, okay, should be the starter because
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton has never played with Zach Martin. It's true.
Speaker 1: I mean he hasn't played with him o there for
Speaker 1: for five games. Did our offensive line not get they
Speaker 1: ripped they behind ripped for five straight games, starting with
Speaker 1: the Rams all the way to Washington. Sure our defensive
Speaker 1: line got ripped. Yeah yeah, yeah, they bro No. The
Speaker 1: best thing we've had except for the one game against
Speaker 1: Washington where the president they got hurt. The offensive line
Speaker 1: is played nice and the coaches have have have ad
Speaker 1: gestured their schemes and how they do things around this,
Speaker 1: and it may and it makes it looks even better
Speaker 1: our offensive line, I mean our defensive line that was
Speaker 1: that was na none. What's that NA now an available
Speaker 1: and pronouncing that right? Yeah? Yeah, they didn't. That didn't
Speaker 1: even that didn't even apply to them. I mean, they
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing. They all they did was beat up
Speaker 1: our secondaries and linebackers. That's all our defense in line allowed.
Speaker 1: They allowed our linebackers to get beat up in our
Speaker 1: secondary to have to make unnecessary taps, okay, and just
Speaker 1: to continue to continue playing Devil's advocate. Here, what's the
Speaker 1: one coaching decision in terms of personnel all year long
Speaker 1: that has been the most questioned and the most scrutinized
Speaker 1: in terms of who you're starting instead of insert name here,
Speaker 1: Terrence Tarren Steele. So you're you're saying that is this
Speaker 1: a is this a Filbin decision or is this a
Speaker 1: McCarthy decision. We don't know. We don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the case. But you're still giving offensive line coaching the
Speaker 1: nod in terms of the most improved because of Terren
Speaker 1: Steele name, yes, sir, yes, sir. You know in the
Speaker 1: last two or three games, I was telling Chris mean
Speaker 1: before y'all got here, is I'm liking how this coaching
Speaker 1: staff is realized. Okay, Tara Steele is your weak lend. Okay,
Speaker 1: but cam Irvin has played nice. The left guard has
Speaker 1: played okay, both centers have played good, and your right
Speaker 1: guard is all pro. Well, you know, y'all all pro.
Speaker 1: So now you finally realize that you can help this
Speaker 1: one guy instead of have to help five guys, you
Speaker 1: can only help you up this one guy. And now
Speaker 1: if they've done that the last two games, and realize, okay,
Speaker 1: this is who this guy is, things that work fairly well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and before things have worked fairly,
Speaker 1: let tell y'all something, man, tell y'all something. We just
Speaker 1: a Garret Gilbert away from from making something happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: excu man, wait, what hold up Garret Gilbert to the
Speaker 1: Promised Land here, Nate, that's what it sounded like. Now,
Speaker 1: not to the Promised Land. But but he I mean,
Speaker 1: he gave us a spark last week. You know, whether
Speaker 1: it was against a team that didn't care, a team
Speaker 1: that did care, in this tell us, he gave us
Speaker 1: a spark buying that crap. Who's saying that they don't care?
Speaker 1: But is that a narrative people are saying, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's kind of a league wide thing where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they just weren't ready to play. I
Speaker 1: mean we mentioned it in the pre or in the
Speaker 1: in the studio on Sunday when we were watching. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that Mike Tomlin has been in this league
Speaker 1: that like he gets his team ready to play. That's
Speaker 1: what they They were ready to play. There was a
Speaker 1: neutral site game that they you know, they there was
Speaker 1: a lot of energy there that been in that stadium
Speaker 1: hardly any player on that football team's ever played stadium.
Speaker 1: They were, you know, fired up, ready to go. Give
Speaker 1: the Cowboys credit for that. I mean they matched the intensity.
Speaker 1: I mean Cowboy fans too, Like everyone talks about the
Speaker 1: Steeler fans, but when you're at you've ever been to
Speaker 1: a sports bar where you're watching the game and you
Speaker 1: got fans on both sides, the intensity is you know, raised,
Speaker 1: especially when the Cowboy fans are sitting there like this
Speaker 1: is our house, and so they were. They were jacked
Speaker 1: up too, So it was just a great atmosphere. And
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys played, you know, obviously they played
Speaker 1: their best game, but they're gonna have to do that again.
Speaker 1: They have to do that in Minnesota. I don't believe
Speaker 1: Minnesota has any fans right now. They haven't haven't this year.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I have seen. The Cowboys have looked
Speaker 1: super flat in those games against the Rams. No fans.
Speaker 1: It was it was like, you know, bedtime story. There
Speaker 1: was terrible. Same in Washington, there was like forty six
Speaker 1: fans there. So they they're gonna have to bring that
Speaker 1: intensity in Minnesota when it's gonna be difficult to do well.
Speaker 1: And I know they haven't won a whole lot of
Speaker 1: games in the first place, but they haven't won a
Speaker 1: road game yet, so I mean, it doesn't pay. It
Speaker 1: almost did, and they almost did, but they they It
Speaker 1: definitely pays some kind of dividends now we're a little
Speaker 1: bit over time. But I want to ask one final
Speaker 1: question since I won't have you guys on the show
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future, maybe never, we'll see, but whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to the second half of the season, what
Speaker 1: is one thing you both want to see from this team?
Speaker 1: I mean it could talk about anything from from losing
Speaker 1: and getting a draft pick to going for the title,
Speaker 1: anything specifically you want to see. It could be an
Speaker 1: individual What is it, Nick, I'll say, win games. Win games.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not about the tanking crap. I'm not
Speaker 1: about that. I think it's important to build a culture
Speaker 1: and win games. Somebody on Twitter sent this to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know the name, but a great job. Just
Speaker 1: look at the Dolphins last year. Look at Miami. They
Speaker 1: were and seven, I believe, came down the stretch one
Speaker 1: four or five games. They still got a high draft
Speaker 1: pick and they still got the quarterback that yeah. But
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, but they were able to build
Speaker 1: and now and now they've got at the culture there.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to win games. Trust each other, Coaches,
Speaker 1: trust the players, players trust the coaches. Build something together here.
Speaker 1: If you're picking sixth or you're picking eleventh, You're still
Speaker 1: gonna get a great player on a good football team,
Speaker 1: I think next year. So try to build some culture, Nate.
Speaker 1: I agree with Nick. I agree with Nick Man. So
Speaker 1: you take off the old zebra shure of yours homeboy?
Speaker 1: You just does it just make you angry? Is it? Like?
Speaker 1: Is it just the fact that it's the referee? And
Speaker 1: do I need the hat the NFL to go with
Speaker 1: it or no? He's probably madly he's agreeing with me.
Speaker 1: Where do you think I down the stretch? I just
Speaker 1: alignment and assignment, and these guys are hustling, these guys
Speaker 1: are playing hard, and just line up the right what
Speaker 1: blight place? Learn what you have to do within this
Speaker 1: system that the coaches is put in place. And like
Speaker 1: Nick said, I learned from the coaches, and the coaches
Speaker 1: got to learn the players and do little nuances that
Speaker 1: they can do well and can't do well, and magnify
Speaker 1: the ones that they can and try to neutralize the
Speaker 1: ones that they can't. This team is okay, man, This
Speaker 1: seem is better than a lot of people want to
Speaker 1: give it credit. Man, Just you don't have enough of
Speaker 1: those guys. Shit, Uh, this next draft should give you
Speaker 1: you know enough of those guys man, and it may
Speaker 1: be ugly starting out next year. But COVID or no COVID.
Speaker 1: I don't think teams. I don't think training, campus and
Speaker 1: stuff like that gonna just it's not it's gonna be
Speaker 1: closed this year. Yeah. I don't think people just gonna
Speaker 1: close they can and doors this year. Yeah, keep it,
Speaker 1: keep it very tight knit. But I agree with both
Speaker 1: of you. I think if you do what Nate just said,
Speaker 1: and you learn the system, you continue to grow from
Speaker 1: an individual perspective to do your job, you're gonna win
Speaker 1: some games down the stretch. You definitely will the tougher
Speaker 1: part of your schedules. In the rearview mirror at the moment,
Speaker 1: you're gonna win some games down the stretch, You're gonna
Speaker 1: start building that culture a little bit, and you start
Speaker 1: trusting each other, coaching staff, players, You start finally seeing
Speaker 1: that cohesiveness to allow you to build a culture heading
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty one, and then you run it back
Speaker 1: with your healthy offense and a couple extra pieces from
Speaker 1: the off season, and all of a sudden, you're right
Speaker 1: back in the thick of things. So that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it here for Talking Cowboys on the bye week. Do
Speaker 1: you want to send a special thanks to mister Nate
Speaker 1: Newton for joining us. Nick Eatman, it's always fun talk
Speaker 1: with you guys, and we talk all the time, but
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed having you guys on the show the
Speaker 1: last couple of days. Make sure and tune in to
Speaker 1: their show's Nick normally on the break, which comes up
Speaker 1: a couple of hours or I guess an hour after
Speaker 1: we're over with here on Talking Cowboys every Monday through Friday.
Speaker 1: And then Nate of course with Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 1: He's hanging with the Boys man and always has been,
Speaker 1: always will be. Shannon Jesse, Holly, Kurt Daniels. They do
Speaker 1: a great job on that show as well, so check
Speaker 1: them out throughout the rest of the season. But that's
Speaker 1: gonna do award winning Hanging with the Boys as all.
Speaker 1: We don't have moral les on the Hanging with Do
Speaker 1: they have them on the break? Morals over there? That's
Speaker 1: what I want to know. Okay, that's true in the
Speaker 1: history of show titles, that's the award Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 1: That's right, Boys for Nate Newton, for Nate Keepman and
Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yomens. That will do
Speaker 1: it for Talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week. This
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