WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Needing A Referee?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. Hello, Saber Taystock. It's a Wednesday edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Talking Cowboys from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star in Frisco. The bye week rolls on here

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<v Speaker 1>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Coyle Yeoman's alongside the back

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<v Speaker 1>to back days of Nick Eatman and Nate Newton, our

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<v Speaker 1>six time pro bowler in our Dallas Cowboys dot Com specialist,

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<v Speaker 1>What was the laugh? I was just like, where are

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<v Speaker 1>you going with with you? Yeah? He's the pro bowler

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<v Speaker 1>and you're you've just been here? What what did Nate

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<v Speaker 1>call you yesterday? Everything? Oh that's right? Yeah? You okay, Nate?

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<v Speaker 1>You could what's finer? Nate? Well you look so sad? Oh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to here we go, you guys, it's

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<v Speaker 1>under You know what I'm going. Yeah, you said, you

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<v Speaker 1>say you do that on the show to nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be here once again with you guys. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>great seeing you. What's with the space suit you got

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<v Speaker 1>on space. You think this is a space suit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so I think you're you're gonna feel bad, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>in a few minutes. If if you do ever feel bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to feel bad. So so the space code.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little chilly this morning, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily crazy. And I got made fun of last week

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<v Speaker 1>for wearing like multiple layers in thirty five degree weather

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<v Speaker 1>when we did talking outdoors and they were there were

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<v Speaker 1>multiple people that were in the messages saying, man, you're

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<v Speaker 1>dressing like it's five Well, this looks like it's five below, right, Nate.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because you guys brought the

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<v Speaker 1>heat yesterday. So I wanted to be ready today. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who didn't watch yesterday's show, Nate Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, it was a battle for the century in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of moral victories that went back and forth, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't caught off guard. I had I had a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling it was coming. But today I'm better prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>this because I want to just make sure are under control.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that things are good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I even brought a whistle just in case I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna blow it because we're on air or something. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to make sure that we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were we were civil today between you two, that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all friends, we all are on the same team. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went out and I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a soccer tag on it, don't don't tell academy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try and return this way. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so I'm calling ever Dare. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic show yesterday. Sponsor. It is a sponsor. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Academy is a sponsor, and we love academy s

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<v Speaker 1>fortune outdoors. So always with that being said, I loved

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's conversation and I want to bring more debate. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I brought the shirt. Yeah, because I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to be I want to make sure and encourage this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I thought it was when I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you wearing? Because I see a Navy shirt

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<v Speaker 1>under the Navy under here. I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to wear the Nate Newton shirt. D don't they have

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<v Speaker 1>that from the pro shot. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>have one up there, Nate, pretty sure they did. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get a Nate Newton. Yeah, there's a n Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to wear that. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna really suck up the Nate here. No I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Yeah, No brought the referee shirt because of

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<v Speaker 1>the back and forth Nate. Just remember though about the

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. Everybody's tough on WebEx. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I could say whatever I want when Nate's sitting over there,

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<v Speaker 1>but Nate's sitting right here. I've been like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who needs a moral victory? Right? We don't need that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what, if y'all see me, look look over,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at the Dallas Cowboys, and I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>them versus distillers. It's the first time I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the tape this week. You're you're watching it while we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Yeah, And some of these guys are

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<v Speaker 1>playing well now that's all. That's all. Some of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys individually are playing well. Well. Go ahead on Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing. There's no such thing. We're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into this today. But I just want to go wherever

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yoman wants to go. So he's great followers today.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that name. It's all yours, kay, And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a moment here because I was just asked

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<v Speaker 1>this question on the fan about Ezekiel Elliott, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wanted to carry it over because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very good question. But whenever it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Zeke and the splitting of carries between Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>and Ezekiel Elliot, and I also asked this on Talking

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<v Speaker 1>last week, But I want to hear you you guys's opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>But is Tony Pollard just better suited to run behind

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<v Speaker 1>this specific offensive line or is there a chance that

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke just continues to get twice as many carries even

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<v Speaker 1>though the production hasn't necessarily been there like it has

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. Well, for me, I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what the Cowboys wanted out of Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>when they drafted him. They wanted him to be a

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<v Speaker 1>change of pace back come in here, you know, Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wear them down a little bit, have to

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<v Speaker 1>get those tough, dirty runs or muddy runs, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is what Kellen Moore called it. And then they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a quick guy to come in here and really hit

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<v Speaker 1>the hole and give the defense a different look. So

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<v Speaker 1>I it's never you don't need to have a debate here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this, in the NFL, you need two backs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to have a lead back, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard I think has given them a spark as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to change it too much.

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<v Speaker 1>If he needs more carries, that's fine, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going the way it should go. Actually, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see because I'm sorry, I don't see Pollard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see it being flipped. I don't see Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>getting all of the tough third and one third and

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<v Speaker 1>two runs. It's a good point, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with your hundred Nick. The thing that makes uh

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke a big issue is that he got paid, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that makes it a big issue. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>running back that you know makes I know meal, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a running back that makes over twelve meal

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<v Speaker 1>per average. So uh that that's that's the big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But men, you see it the same way here, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Zeke gets the dirty runs. Zeke. Zeke comes

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<v Speaker 1>in at the beginning of the game, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>the safeties up. Uh do you see the tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>come in closer. Everything is geared to stop Zeke when

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the ball and when he's in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and obvious rundown situations to ask Tony Pollard's to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we want you in the game, and obvious rundown situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Starting the game, you may not see the reduction that

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<v Speaker 1>you think because where's Zeke. Where's Zeke? May look like

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<v Speaker 1>he got a loss. You always seen the getback to

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage. And what you're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>for all offensive coordinators is never putting them behind the chains,

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<v Speaker 1>because it when a quarter, when the ovens a quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>Nata sees that he's behind the chain, you thought pass,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes the only thing they think about after that,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Nate don't want to ask you this question.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about this during the game because it is

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<v Speaker 1>obvious that wherever you're watching on TV and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the at the game, you can see a burst that

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<v Speaker 1>Pollard has that Zeke doesn't happen. So here's my question too,

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<v Speaker 1>especially an offensive lineman who's who's been right there and

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<v Speaker 1>on third and one, here's the play. Would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>have the bigger, stronger, tougher back that can maybe hit

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<v Speaker 1>that linebacker and push forward, or the quicker back that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to hit the hole faster than Zeke, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to block as longer as quick because that

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<v Speaker 1>guy's gonna be right there. Does that? Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something. Let me tell you something right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't Zeke. I won't Zeke. And until they give it

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<v Speaker 1>to Tony Pollock, if they give it to Tony Poller,

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<v Speaker 1>because I see, if they get rid of Zeke, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out and get them another back. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get them another back. And until I

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<v Speaker 1>see it. You know, we had a saying here when

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<v Speaker 1>I played, it's one thing to play twenty plays, it's

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<v Speaker 1>another play. It's another thing to play sixty plays. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different animal and a whole different beast. When

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<v Speaker 1>teams say, hey, this is this guy, how do we

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<v Speaker 1>stop him? Now? Can you be elite? And so until

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<v Speaker 1>I see an elite Tony Pollock twenty twenty five carriages

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<v Speaker 1>a week. This all about Zeke still right now, Because

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<v Speaker 1>every time we needed a third and one, a third

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<v Speaker 1>and two, it was Zeke. It won Polot. They ain't dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they give this kid his series, and they

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<v Speaker 1>give him his plays, and they and they give him

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<v Speaker 1>they and they cater to what he does best. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and Zeke still got some punch because it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>little punch to get that extra yard when somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>the midstate block. I don't think we're disagreeing, as he

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<v Speaker 1>may not be as fast or as quick as this kid,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has some punch, so it's explosive. It more

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<v Speaker 1>like more like a Bruce Bee two inch punch, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I'm just saying so you personally

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<v Speaker 1>would take a bigger, stronger, heavier physical back than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the quick, agile back as in terms of you as

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman, that's what you would prefer. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I take backs as they come like it. Like Bell

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<v Speaker 1>that used to run for the Stellers in the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>now with Kansas City, he runs a totally different style.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that site. He's very patient. See the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>explodes ste it where Girla used to be where Girla

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<v Speaker 1>had a thousand different speeds when he used to be

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<v Speaker 1>with the Ram. Each back is different. And you look

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<v Speaker 1>at that kid from None of Soda, you know he

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<v Speaker 1>has a different style. I mean, he don't always hit

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<v Speaker 1>it ninety going north, but lately his hole has been

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to when he hit it, it is ninety

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<v Speaker 1>going north. So each back brings a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was blessed enough to see Barry Sounders

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<v Speaker 1>up close, and I was blessed enough to block for

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<v Speaker 1>him and Smith, two totally different backs. People keep saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>when you rather block for him for Barry Sounders. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to block for Barry senderc Barry Sunders.

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<v Speaker 1>If I said we're going to the right, Barry gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be over there to the left. So to each his

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<v Speaker 1>own brother. So just what the punish young man? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see this young man go twenty five, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five reps a game. You know, I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>that type of back. I think he is great at

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. I think Kelly Moore and the head

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<v Speaker 1>coach is doing a great job. And how they're using it. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>so y'all keeping them mixed blow it sounds like where

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<v Speaker 1>you need man nick man niggas And he's not. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Tony Pollard is trying to look for

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<v Speaker 1>moral victories. I think he's trying to get to but

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<v Speaker 1>he is trying to get to the end. Everybody's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the end zone, but specifically with with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you do have these two guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we wanted going into the to the season,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we wanted going into training camps. You wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the lightning and the thunder from Zeke and Pollard. Now

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is getting paid more than the other

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<v Speaker 1>one by a lot. And this was the question that

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked on the fan that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get to. But is Ezekiel Elliott the worst

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<v Speaker 1>contract on this team because of the lack of production

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<v Speaker 1>that he's shown this season and of course the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of salary cap chunk that he takes up. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean as soon as he signs the deal, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad contract. I mean, you know, that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is. Is is great player, bad contract. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that happens. I mean, Um, that happened because you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him. He wanted to keep him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in there in Cobo as you're in training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to sign I mean, they leverage that. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the worst contract? Not on the team? I

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<v Speaker 1>think we know on the defensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably a worse one. But but that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean I'm talking about Jalen Smith, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think Jalen and well or d Law. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean yeah, I mean he's playing really well last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like he's healthier and all that. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>for the contract, twenty one million a year, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. You're you gotta have a double digit sack

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<v Speaker 1>guy there. So there's some there's some challenging contracts, without

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<v Speaker 1>a doubt, and the same thing is gonna happen to Dak.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's gonna get paid, and every interception and every lost

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<v Speaker 1>fumble is gonna be magnified way more than it is

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's a good point, Nate. Do you agree

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's some people in with the Carolina Panthers thing

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<v Speaker 1>today a guy who's just signed a new contract is

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<v Speaker 1>it was a wasted contract. All you gotta do is

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt, FuMB of the ball, a thought interception, and

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes the worst contract in the Zeke case and

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<v Speaker 1>Ezec case. As a running back, Uh, when you were

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<v Speaker 1>a productive his first two years, the way he was

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<v Speaker 1>very explosive making those plays offensive line, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>leveraged it, and uh, now things ain't working as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll see. Man, we got a long ways to

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<v Speaker 1>go in this season, and there's always next year. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they'll get rid of Zeke next year, at

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<v Speaker 1>at least I don't know. I don't know how the

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<v Speaker 1>money works. Uh, stuff like that. You're a little more well.

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<v Speaker 1>I did look at him when it comes to stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Nick, I did look at it. It's it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't and they get rid of him next not no,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the solar cap expected to go down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really not good. It's not even good for Jalen Smith either.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jalen Smith would be an absolute wash. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe if you cut him at June first and first year,

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<v Speaker 1>So is that better to just have him off the team?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's one thing if a guy's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>locker room guy and you gotta get get him off

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<v Speaker 1>the team. But I don't see him that way. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, would you rather or just you know, pay

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<v Speaker 1>It's like nine million to keep him, nine million to

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<v Speaker 1>cut him, plus you got to get another guy on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that to fill it. So I think you

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<v Speaker 1>got to roll with that and roll with Zeke as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'd like to get this offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>back rolling, to get the healthy guys again, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Zeke would would look better well. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the whole mindset around this front office right now is

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<v Speaker 1>let's run it back. I mean, we've talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>on this show before, and Rob Phillips was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of came up with that and talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But whenever you went into this year, you looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the talent at each position offensively and said, we're good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to make a run here. We're good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>win a lot of games with what we have on

0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the offensive side of the football. Now you get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to add to the defense this off season. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're a long way from the off season,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can already see the growth of this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about that coming up in the next segment.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are so many different things on this offense

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<v Speaker 1>that went wrong this year that you feel good coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel good because your offensive line is gonna get healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel good because there's a chance that a Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>plays better next year, that Dac will be back and

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and you can build around him some more. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I think whenever it comes to this defense, Blake Darwin,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another one exactly. So there are so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that went wrong. You don't want to make these ratch

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<v Speaker 1>decisions right now. And I think that's probably the smart

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<v Speaker 1>way of going about it, and that's why the front

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<v Speaker 1>office thinks that way. I'll tell you like this, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a bad season, but I'm like, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this team totally different this past game.

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<v Speaker 1>You still had the same right tackle issues, but coaches

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<v Speaker 1>did a better job of helping this kid. The left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>cam Irvan played better than everybody thought. The inside guys

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<v Speaker 1>played good. We know what the right guard is, we

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<v Speaker 1>know what the center is. The left guard played Okay, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you something. The quarterback is always gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>the difference, and we had one in there this week

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<v Speaker 1>that helped make a difference. Yes, and I hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot old the Pittsburgh still has one enthusiast. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what crush that. You know, that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get his kid another chance to see if

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<v Speaker 1>if if he's a worthy opponent for the backup position

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<v Speaker 1>next year. I mean, this offense moved the ball, this

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<v Speaker 1>defense played well, so now let's build on that and

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<v Speaker 1>try to see what we can do this after this

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<v Speaker 1>bye week man with Minnesota, because this offensive line is

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<v Speaker 1>not as bad as everybody want to say, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>getting those pieces back to solidify a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>and help in a lot of different areas. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, coach Philbin, he's my coach of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, which I thought the special team coach would be,

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<v Speaker 1>but the earlier people was kind of threw him, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of threw it off. Well, you mentioned the defensive improvement

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<v Speaker 1>and I teased this a moment ago. Let's let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that defense and how exactly they've improved in some

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<v Speaker 1>was that was not as hot as it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned the defense last time. By the way, Nick Eatman,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Newton, Kyle Ooman's here on Talking Cowboys second segment,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about the defense, and Nate you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>hollo Okay, hold on, okay, okay, hold on man, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't by the way, it's Nick Eaton and Nate Newton.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, as you okay you by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I know, oh yeah, no, I know. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. I was introducing us all in that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that thing, because I usually do it at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the segment and I didn't, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to slip that in. No it's good, no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only one here. You've gotten him for a

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<v Speaker 1>zebra though I ain't got Oh, you just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any respect for them. For the rest, I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're the official one throwing the flag. False start. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a delay of game. Goodness, gracious, Nate, Nate,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come with you at this question then, just

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<v Speaker 1>just since you you wanted to wanted me to be

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<v Speaker 1>the by the way, So whenever it comes to this defense,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen improvement on the defensive line, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in the secondary, but they've kind of been banged up

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<v Speaker 1>at different times this year. Which one of those two

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<v Speaker 1>units have improved the most since Week one and which

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<v Speaker 1>one do you feel better about moving in to the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. D line has improved the

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<v Speaker 1>most by subtraction. M the day they got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys, the day they traded a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of guys, that the defensive line got better tremendously. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we would have done this six weeks ago, seven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, our secondary would not be in the shambles

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<v Speaker 1>that it is in now. And that's just how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about that. So you think the defensive line earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the season, if they would have played the same

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<v Speaker 1>exact way, that we wouldn't be talking about three weeks ago, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>okay talking about this defensive the same light. Okay. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have taken them time to acclimated themselves to the

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<v Speaker 1>system and the coaches. It took them time to see

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<v Speaker 1>where these players were in the system. But by now

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<v Speaker 1>these young guys would have get gotten more reps. And

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<v Speaker 1>minus Randy Gregory because he couldn't be here because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a suspension. But the other guys that Gallamore's uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods, how he adjusted the plan in Tynrone Crawford,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have got more snaps and maybe that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they was trying to get these guys acclimated. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>they kept the other guys as long as they did.

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<v Speaker 1>But when they took away those other guys, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>here saw their opportunities and they're taking it and they're

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<v Speaker 1>growing within the system. And I'm talking about the defensive line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the question is about the whole defense the right,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, which one you feel better about, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it starts. I think it definitely starts the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>or D line. And the reason the reason is, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Poe and and Griffin. I don't think everything

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin ever bought into the system. This was this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>what he is used to doing, and he made it clear,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I guess he after a while, it

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<v Speaker 1>just it just wasn't clicking, and they knew that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got they shipped him out of here. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think d Law's health is better, way better, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're starting to see him be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more active. Um. I think that's one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that getting po out of here, putting Gallimore in,

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<v Speaker 1>even um Hamilton when he came in, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>was he was better. Those guys are just better. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are So that's where it starts there. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>think you can't overlook the fact that Trayvon digs his

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<v Speaker 1>confidence got He's getting better and better each game. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he gives up some plays, He's starting to make a

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<v Speaker 1>few more plays. Donfrid Wilson's made more plays in the

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<v Speaker 1>back end. So I think it starts at the d line.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought you're starting to see the ripple effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think it maybe just hurdled the linebacker position

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>because I don't really see a huge difference there. But um,

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, but hopefully the defensive tackle position, Gallimore can

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>if he keeps making plays like that, knocking Pouncy back

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>on his ass like that, then those linebackers are gonna be,

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, free to do more things and hopefully you'll

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>see a benefit there. Now, you mentioned Donovan Wilson back there,

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of want to talk about him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you seen differently from him from a safety

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>position that he didn't necessarily have early in the year. Well,

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>he's physical. Well I'll say this. I'll say this for

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the first time, and you can ask Chris Beam. I

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>screamed in there because for the first time I saw

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a safety back deep with the with the with with

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>a cornerback running with the wide receiver down the sideline

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and I saw a safety early in the game back

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>deep making a play on the ball. When the last

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>time we've seen that here this year? Something simple? Is that? Man?

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Something as simple as that. I'm looking at it again.

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, even Donovan Wilson went crazy, like, man, I

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>made it. Back here, they sitting up looking at the

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>end of the quarterback ten yards behind the receiver and

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about that one, the one where it was

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>basically inside the five yard line, down the left side

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 1>line and yes him, yeah, a light in front of

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Deontay John and digs. It was funny being and Jim

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Nancy even said this, but he was like they kind

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of or Tony said it actually that they kind of

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 1>hurt themselves because they were both in the same spot

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to make a play on the football and Deontay Johnson

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>was back. Yeah, and I think that's something that has improvement.

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned. Turned out to be a good play though,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>just because I'll tell you this, because they catch that ball,

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that's first in goal. I mean, I'm sorry, that's first down,

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.120
<v Speaker 1>first and ten at the two or three yard line

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>for Garrett Gilbert to come out and make his first

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>play right there in the end zone. Instead it was

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a punt. I think it was a touchback twenty yard

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>line or maybe what space maybe was a touchback, but

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>it was definitely a lot more space for him to

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>come out and his first you know, the first thing.

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So I thought it would have been cool to having

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>an interception, but it would have been almost like a

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>punt for Pittsburgh to have him pinned back. Was that

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 1>on third down or second down though, because I think

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>there was a play in between that. Yeah, second next play,

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>what's cool. Almost got beat the next next play, he

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>almost got twenty six, almost got beat by Chase Claypool.

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>You're right, George Lewis on that scene route up to

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the right side, and Claypool was the receiver there. So

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>le me, I ask you this. I don't know where

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going next. But but thirty seven he's playing better, okay,

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>He's making some plays. You see some interceptions already, see

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a fumble, you see some places in the two point conversion.

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>The other safety? Is he the most neutral player you've

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>ever seen? Talking about Xavier Woods? Yeah, I mean, just

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>name the bad plays. I can't think of a ton

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>name the good plays. It's just a neutral player and

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you need more than that, obviously, But I mean, I mean,

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll ask, I'll ask name that as a safety. The

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>last line of defense is that, Are you okay with

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>having a neutral player because no, no, no, he ain't

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the same guy selling college man. Well the man competition

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 1>might be better. Yeah yeah, Louisiana techasi no no, no,

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>no no no. Let's and to me, you went to

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the senior boor now I went you to Florid. I

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>went to Florida and him I was a free agent, true,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Barry Church was a free agent solo. It don't matter

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>once you get here. But you asked, dud I like

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a neutral safety, you either gotta be back there knocking

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 1>down balls or making interceptions, up in the line, making tackles,

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And when you're doing neither, you're talking about neutral. No.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Nine times out of ten, if you put him on

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>top of a hill and put him in neutra, you're

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna run down to hit something. Ain't gonna be. Ain't

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be what It's long And that's what should happen.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that What isn't that what a safety is supposed

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to be though, isn't it supposed to be that safety

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>blanket the fact that you've got him back there. I

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>know you want plays to be made, but if you

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>have a strong safety for the season, though, I want

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>plays to be made. That's what I'm saying. I can't

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>think of a play. And I don't dislike him or

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Um, I don't like the comment that

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he made. Yeah I was that that wasn't a good comment.

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>But I don't dislike him. I just he just doesn't

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 1>make any plays. You're not right. But it doesn't make

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>any plays really for the other team either, which is

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a big deal too at safety. I just I

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>think I think you would probably prefer a little bit more.

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean he had a chance to make a diving interception.

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Would have been a great play. Yeah, didn't didn't make it.

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Now let me ask you guys this, just because he's

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>been a neutral safety doesn't mean he's a neutral player.

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>He just may have to be a neutral safety because

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a whole lot of help back there.

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Now you're starting to see some help with Donovan Wilson.

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You're hopefully seeing in emerging of Wilson as maybe that

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>other safety. You're a sense bro, Well, let me get

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to my plot. Haven't gotten to that point yet. I

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten to the point yet. He hasn't had he

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>hasn't had help safety wise. He's been the only solid

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>player back there. And I'm saying solid as as in

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.719
<v Speaker 1>non mistake, non big play safety. Is that maybe him

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>playing conservative overplaying aggressively. But now you can start seeing

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>them to play. He had a running back coming here.

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>We had Cleveland come in here and hit us for

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>almost eight thousand yards rushing. They put him in there,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>They put him in the box. He he they put

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>him in the box. They put him up in the box.

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 1>When you come up in the box, you are being

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the the these You are the seventh guy in the box,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and you normally got the back the back gaps when

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he ain't tacking nobody yet. So if you're up in

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:38.479
<v Speaker 1>the box and you're missing tackles, how how how are

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you new? How are you okay? So what I'm trying

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to say here, what I'm trying to say here is

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>whether you're back deep up close, you have to make

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>plays to help your team win. If you're a neutral guy.

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're a neutral guy, always you're not You're no

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>good to your team. Thank you? Okay, it's no. So

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you're either going up and helping your team. Are you

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>going down? Because when you're neutral, you got to go Yeah.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Well that's my next That was my next question here

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is that he's a free agent, you know, I mean,

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you got a lot of holes on defense. You got

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to figure out stuff on the secondary. But like, is

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>is he in your future? I mean, what do you

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>do with with Xavier Woods? Do you let him go

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to free agency? See what happens? I mean, he's not

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a top priority to resign, but then again, you don't

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of guys behind him. How much is

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>he gonna be on the open market though? How much?

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>What is his value right now to not only just

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, but any other team in terms of contract.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You may be able to get him back for a

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>bit of a discount. I think that's going to be

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>one of those. After a week or free agency, we'll

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>see what happens. He was up happening. I know we're

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>getting ahead of ourselves, but I mean he's been here

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>with what three years? Yeah, he's you know when I

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>say about neutral though, he doesn't feel up A lot

0:30:59.920 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>of players just doesn't make it any fellas. You know,

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, Kyle, that's why, uh men, you gotta watch.

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You watch a game together. You know that you know

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that has been played and watching men, we watch it

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>with church from a from a defensive back perspective, and

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>we watch it with stand back from an offensive so

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>we so we all know what they are thinking and

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>what they are seeing. And when you have a guy

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can go a whole game and you and

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you never hear his name, You expect that from offensive

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>lineman only. You don't expect that from secondary players. You

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>want to hear secondary player's name one way or the other.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>You want to hear your linebacker's name one way or other.

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>That means plays either being made or players are being

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>made on you. You we are two and six talking

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>about a guy that's neutral, and then we talk about

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Wilson and we're talking about guys trying to make plays.

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a difference there, right. I told you took that

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>moral victory, didn't even give him a loss. Two and

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>seven eight, two and seven. Yeah, we're two and seven

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:22.719
<v Speaker 1>eights unless you counted that. Okay, we're two and seven.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>And now you're two and seven or two and six

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You are seven you you are, you are

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>looking to be better. And the players you got on

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the field, you went and you got Donovan Wilson. It

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>took y'all scrape in the bottom of the barrel to

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>find this player who is trying to make plays for you.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>That's why I say there's no more victims cause players.

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>You're looking for players and our guys that are improving

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>weekend and week out. And Donovan Wilson, remember a couple

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>of years ago, he was our best player, doing it,

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>doing the doing the training camp, and all of a

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>sudden the season start, he disappears. Why did he disappear?

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Was that a coaching thing, a scouting thing he just

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't couldn't play because like to me, he can play.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>It looks like that. I mean, every time he's back

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>out there, he's at least doing something. Like you said,

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not a neutral thing with Donovan Wilson, and I

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>think he's made a couple of plays that have really

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>stuck out and have made you really feel better about

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the secondary position or excuse me, the safety position. Now, Nate,

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned how that evaluation process is ongoing, and especially

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in a season like this where you are two and seven,

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that evaluation process is crucial. When we come back after

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the break here, I want to ask about these coaches,

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>specifically on the offensive, defensive, and special team side. Whenever

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about all three phases, which phase has done

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.320
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<v Speaker 1>the Nate Newton, the fantastic Nick Keatman, and the by

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys and final couple minutes here guys, and I tease

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<v Speaker 1>this going into the break. You're speaking of the coaching

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>staff and two and seven. Your your record is or

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you are what your records say is as you are,

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're two and seven, so you're not a very

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 1>good football team right now. However, there's been coaching that

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<v Speaker 1>has started to turn the corner a little bit, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least it looks that way over the last two

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>weeks against Philadelphia and against Pittsburgh. So, Nate, I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you the question to start us off, which unit offense, defense,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>special teams has seen the biggest improvement and has had

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the best coaching job through week one up until now

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<v Speaker 1>here in the bye week. Off A line, baby, officsive

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>line both. Oh, we lost both tackles and and and

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>during the season, we've lost guards, we've lost centers, and

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>coach Philban has kept this thing going and and and

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that connects to the offensive coordinator, who I'm very critical of,

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and to the head coach because this is an offensive

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>minded thing we're talking about here. They have kept this

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<v Speaker 1>thing going except for one game, a couple of games,

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<v Speaker 1>but where it all fell apart when the president felled,

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, failed to blow to the head, you know,

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a long shot, riping shot to the head. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, so this thing is good, you know, not

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>just the concussion. They tried to assassin. They tried to

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<v Speaker 1>assassinate the president. It didn't happen. You missed one week, Yeah, man,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>really that's probably not a good one. Um, it was

0:37:52.800 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>good for me. Yeah, yeah, right, that's right. Make sure clarify. Um,

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's a tough one because he's right, there's

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>no position that's been you know, changed as much as

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>that now quarterback position has changed a lot, but we've

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.399
<v Speaker 1>seen some really bad play at time too. Like now,

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, I thought Kellen Moore and did a

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 1>really good job of managing that game or or or

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>getting a system for Garrett Gilbert and that you know,

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it was it was. There was a combination off. They

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<v Speaker 1>had tricked it up a little bit, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of old school as well. And I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Gilbert did a really nice job for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be as comfortable with the checks. I mean, he

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was changing plays at the line of Scrimmont him. He

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>looked very very comfortable there. Um. I think the one

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>reason why I don't know, if let me let me

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>answer the question, though, I think I'd have to go

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>with Nate on that on offensive line because there's no

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>other position. Wow, what who else is? Who? Who else?

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Would it be? Like my thought process, I mean, maybe

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>defensive line, go with Jim tom Sula. Just the fact

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that the defensive tackles are young guys that are the

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>ones making the plays. But you could also fault him

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>for not getting the best out of a pro bowler

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and every driven a veteran and Dantari post, so you

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>could fault him at the same time. I'm just interested.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I'm surprised that both of you went with

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line though, because right now, if you look at

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty as a whole, what is the number one

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<v Speaker 1>biggest detriment to this team, and it's the injuries to

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, Right yeah, Well, who do you give

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to Adam Henry the receiver's coach. No, no, you can't

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>do that. These guys were talented already. No no, no, no no, no,

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>no, no no no. I mean that's what I'm saying. It's

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Nate. It's offensive line by default, by fault

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>because they did get their ass kicked in Washington. I mean,

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>oh they did big time. Oh yeah. But but not

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 1>having Zach Martin was was big there. And that's why

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Andy Daltons, okay, should be the starter because

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton has never played with Zach Martin. It's true.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean he hasn't played with him o there for

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<v Speaker 1>for five games. Did our offensive line not get they

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<v Speaker 1>ripped they behind ripped for five straight games, starting with

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the Rams all the way to Washington. Sure our defensive

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>line got ripped. Yeah yeah, yeah, they bro No. The

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<v Speaker 1>best thing we've had except for the one game against

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Washington where the president they got hurt. The offensive line

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>is played nice and the coaches have have have ad

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>gestured their schemes and how they do things around this,

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and it may and it makes it looks even better

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>our offensive line, I mean our defensive line that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was na none. What's that NA now an available

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and pronouncing that right? Yeah? Yeah, they didn't. That didn't

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>even that didn't even apply to them. I mean, they

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't do nothing. They all they did was beat up

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>our secondaries and linebackers. That's all our defense in line allowed.

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>They allowed our linebackers to get beat up in our

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 1>secondary to have to make unnecessary taps, okay, and just

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to continue to continue playing Devil's advocate. Here, what's the

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>one coaching decision in terms of personnel all year long

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that has been the most questioned and the most scrutinized

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>in terms of who you're starting instead of insert name here,

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Terrence Tarren Steele. So you're you're saying that is this

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a is this a Filbin decision or is this a

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy decision. We don't know. We don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case. But you're still giving offensive line coaching the

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.439
<v Speaker 1>nod in terms of the most improved because of Terren

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Steele name, yes, sir, yes, sir. You know in the

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>last two or three games, I was telling Chris mean

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<v Speaker 1>before y'all got here, is I'm liking how this coaching

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>staff is realized. Okay, Tara Steele is your weak lend. Okay,

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 1>but cam Irvin has played nice. The left guard has

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>played okay, both centers have played good, and your right

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>guard is all pro. Well, you know, y'all all pro.

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>So now you finally realize that you can help this

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>one guy instead of have to help five guys, you

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>can only help you up this one guy. And now

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>if they've done that the last two games, and realize, okay,

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 1>this is who this guy is, things that work fairly well, yeah,

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, and before things have worked fairly,

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>let tell y'all something, man, tell y'all something. We just

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>a Garret Gilbert away from from making something happen. I mean,

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 1>excu man, wait, what hold up Garret Gilbert to the

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 1>Promised Land here, Nate, that's what it sounded like. Now,

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>not to the Promised Land. But but he I mean,

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.959
<v Speaker 1>he gave us a spark last week. You know, whether

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it was against a team that didn't care, a team

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 1>that did care, in this tell us, he gave us

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>a spark buying that crap. Who's saying that they don't care?

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 1>But is that a narrative people are saying, yeah, I

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's kind of a league wide thing where

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, they just weren't ready to play. I

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>mean we mentioned it in the pre or in the

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>in the studio on Sunday when we were watching. I

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that Mike Tomlin has been in this league

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 1>that like he gets his team ready to play. That's

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>what they They were ready to play. There was a

0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>neutral site game that they you know, they there was

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy there that been in that stadium

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 1>hardly any player on that football team's ever played stadium.

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>They were, you know, fired up, ready to go. Give

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys credit for that. I mean they matched the intensity.

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean Cowboy fans too, Like everyone talks about the

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Steeler fans, but when you're at you've ever been to

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a sports bar where you're watching the game and you

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>got fans on both sides, the intensity is you know, raised,

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 1>especially when the Cowboy fans are sitting there like this

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is our house, and so they were. They were jacked

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>up too, So it was just a great atmosphere. And

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys played, you know, obviously they played

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>their best game, but they're gonna have to do that again.

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>They have to do that in Minnesota. I don't believe

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota has any fans right now. They haven't haven't this year.

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I have seen. The Cowboys have looked

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>super flat in those games against the Rams. No fans.

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>It was it was like, you know, bedtime story. There

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.919
<v Speaker 1>was terrible. Same in Washington, there was like forty six

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>fans there. So they they're gonna have to bring that

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>intensity in Minnesota when it's gonna be difficult to do well.

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know they haven't won a whole lot of

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>games in the first place, but they haven't won a

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>road game yet, so I mean, it doesn't pay. It

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 1>almost did, and they almost did, but they they It

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely pays some kind of dividends now we're a little

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>bit over time. But I want to ask one final

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>question since I won't have you guys on the show

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>for the foreseeable future, maybe never, we'll see, but whenever

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the second half of the season, what

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.240
<v Speaker 1>is one thing you both want to see from this team?

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it could talk about anything from from losing

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and getting a draft pick to going for the title,

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>anything specifically you want to see. It could be an

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>individual What is it, Nick, I'll say, win games. Win games.

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not about the tanking crap. I'm not

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>about that. I think it's important to build a culture

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and win games. Somebody on Twitter sent this to me.

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the name, but a great job. Just

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>look at the Dolphins last year. Look at Miami. They

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>were and seven, I believe, came down the stretch one

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>four or five games. They still got a high draft

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.879
<v Speaker 1>pick and they still got the quarterback that yeah. But

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just saying, but they were able to build

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and now and now they've got at the culture there.

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to win games. Trust each other, Coaches,

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>trust the players, players trust the coaches. Build something together here.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're picking sixth or you're picking eleventh, You're still

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna get a great player on a good football team,

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I think next year. So try to build some culture, Nate.

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Nick. I agree with Nick Man. So

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you take off the old zebra shure of yours homeboy?

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>You just does it just make you angry? Is it? Like?

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it just the fact that it's the referee? And

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>do I need the hat the NFL to go with

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it or no? He's probably madly he's agreeing with me.

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Where do you think I down the stretch? I just

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>alignment and assignment, and these guys are hustling, these guys

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>are playing hard, and just line up the right what

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>blight place? Learn what you have to do within this

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>system that the coaches is put in place. And like

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Nick said, I learned from the coaches, and the coaches

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>got to learn the players and do little nuances that

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>they can do well and can't do well, and magnify

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the ones that they can and try to neutralize the

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>ones that they can't. This team is okay, man, This

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>seem is better than a lot of people want to

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>give it credit. Man, Just you don't have enough of

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>those guys. Shit, Uh, this next draft should give you

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you know enough of those guys man, and it may

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>be ugly starting out next year. But COVID or no COVID.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think teams. I don't think training, campus and

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that gonna just it's not it's gonna be

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.319
<v Speaker 1>closed this year. Yeah. I don't think people just gonna

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>close they can and doors this year. Yeah, keep it,

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 1>keep it very tight knit. But I agree with both

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>of you. I think if you do what Nate just said,

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and you learn the system, you continue to grow from

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>an individual perspective to do your job, you're gonna win

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>some games down the stretch. You definitely will the tougher

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>part of your schedules. In the rearview mirror at the moment,

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna win some games down the stretch, You're gonna

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>start building that culture a little bit, and you start

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 1>trusting each other, coaching staff, players, You start finally seeing

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that cohesiveness to allow you to build a culture heading

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty one, and then you run it back

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 1>with your healthy offense and a couple extra pieces from

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the off season, and all of a sudden, you're right

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>back in the thick of things. So that's gonna do

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it here for Talking Cowboys on the bye week. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to send a special thanks to mister Nate

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<v Speaker 1>Newton for joining us. Nick Eatman, it's always fun talk

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys, and we talk all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've really enjoyed having you guys on the show the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days. Make sure and tune in to

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<v Speaker 1>their show's Nick normally on the break, which comes up

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours or I guess an hour after

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<v Speaker 1>we're over with here on Talking Cowboys every Monday through Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Nate of course with Hanging with the Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>He's hanging with the Boys man and always has been,

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<v Speaker 1>always will be. Shannon Jesse, Holly, Kurt Daniels. They do

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<v Speaker 1>a great job on that show as well, so check

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<v Speaker 1>them out throughout the rest of the season. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do award winning Hanging with the Boys as all.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have moral les on the Hanging with Do

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<v Speaker 1>they have them on the break? Morals over there? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to know. Okay, that's true in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of show titles, that's the award Hanging with the Boys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Boys for Nate Newton, for Nate Keepman and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yomens. That will do

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<v Speaker 1>it for Talking Cowboys. We'll see you next week. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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