WEBVTT - Hour 2: American Military Might

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<v Speaker 1>This is a Jesse Kelly show.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the Jesse Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Wednesday. So here's what we have coming up this hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Half hour from now. We're going to talk to our

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<v Speaker 1>friend Green Beret Clay Martin. Check in on Ukraine, check

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<v Speaker 1>in on Iran. I'm gonna talk to Clay more about

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<v Speaker 1>the defense system I need for my private island. We

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<v Speaker 1>can get into that in a little while. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to make merciless, merciless fun of Democrats, once again

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<v Speaker 1>pandering to black people in the most cringe worthy ways

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<v Speaker 1>humanly possible. Thanks, Abdul Al said for one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah that so.

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<v Speaker 1>Much more still to come on the second hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna first get to this one. Apparently it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on the show a lot. These flock cameras, these camera

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<v Speaker 1>systems that are getting placed all over town, and this

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<v Speaker 1>guy writes it an email. Vergot email, very well thought out,

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<v Speaker 1>said Jesse. I heard your segment today about flock cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt compelled to chime in. My wife was

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<v Speaker 1>a city councilwoman. I asked her about these cameras. We

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<v Speaker 1>live in a smallish town here in Texas forty thousand residents,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cameras are positioned at all major entrances and

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<v Speaker 1>exits to the city. I noticed you and others often

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<v Speaker 1>say they don't want quote the government spying on them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the government, it's your local police force. And

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<v Speaker 1>all it does is read license plates, reported stolen vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>amber alerts, bolos, etc. That have been entered into the

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<v Speaker 1>system and flagged when someone drives in or out of

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<v Speaker 1>your city. The failed Trump assassin in Florida was caught

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<v Speaker 1>with flock cameras. There's no spying, there's no mass surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>regarding flock in the government. It just reads license plates

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<v Speaker 1>and notifies the police. My worry about out this, about

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<v Speaker 1>this new and out of nowhere flock pandemonium, is what

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<v Speaker 1>will replace it, so on and so forth. Hope this

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<v Speaker 1>shed some positive light on flock cameras, because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>what the current hype is making them out to be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to touch on this point because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very good it's a very good email, it's informative,

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<v Speaker 1>it's well thought out. Here's a headline for you. Flock

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<v Speaker 1>cameras now track all phones, air pods, and smart watches

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<v Speaker 1>that pass them thanks to something called signal trace. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one two. You say, it's not the government, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your local police force. So I'm going to be as

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<v Speaker 1>delicate as I possibly can in saying this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>say this knowing full well that cops listen to this,

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<v Speaker 1>state troopers, sheriffs all over the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would I trust the local police force? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember COVID? I remember COVID. Now, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a million friends who are cops. I send

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<v Speaker 1>pizzas to the local cops. But you know how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about the issue. However, as a whole, how many officers,

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<v Speaker 1>police officers, sheriffs, state troopers in the United States of America?

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<v Speaker 1>How many of them refused to enforce the COVID orders

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<v Speaker 1>that came down from evil governors and evil mayors. You

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<v Speaker 1>can count them on one hand. Now, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>you'll email me, and it's a totally valid email, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>If I didn't enforce it, I would have been fired

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have simply hired someone else who did

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<v Speaker 1>enforce it. That's very fair. One hundred percent true, not

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<v Speaker 1>arguing with you on that, but that in a way

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<v Speaker 1>makes my point for me. A police force serves under

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<v Speaker 1>the government that's over it, under the government that's over it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those those Venice Beach during speaking of COVID

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<v Speaker 1>out in Venice, I think it was Venice Beach. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure it was

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<v Speaker 1>Venice Beach. There's video you can go look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy was in the ocean by himself, paddle boarding

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<v Speaker 1>during COVID. The police showed up on the beach, brought

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<v Speaker 1>him in handcuffed him and frog marked him, marched him

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<v Speaker 1>off the beach for paddle boarding by himself outside. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea the names of those cops. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what they were thinking at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll tell you this, I would bet money those

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<v Speaker 1>cops if they're worth anything. I bet they were thinking

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, this is ridiculous. I joined the police

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<v Speaker 1>force to stop bad guys, to protect people and do

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff, and I'm arresting paddle borders. Now, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>they thought to themselves, this sucks. It's ridiculous and I

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<v Speaker 1>hate it, but they did it. They did it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not at all, some anti cop rant at all.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a basic acknowledgment that whatever the police force is, federal, state,

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<v Speaker 1>or local, they will do as they are ordered to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So you say, flock cameras, not the local government. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the cops, Okay, just the cops, ma'am. Donnie has

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<v Speaker 1>a whole police force under him. A'bdu al Saye is

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan. You want him, You want him telling the

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<v Speaker 1>cops what to do. You want Gavin Newsom telling the

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<v Speaker 1>cops what to do? Communists trained mayor Karen Bass of

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, do you want her telling the cops what

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<v Speaker 1>to do? I understand, I understand the appeal of hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's find kidnapped kids. Totally get it. I am sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after COVID. I was this way anyway, but especially

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<v Speaker 1>after COVID. I am so jaded on government power. I

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<v Speaker 1>am so jaded on what they will do with power,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm old enough to remember governors and mayors who

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<v Speaker 1>had no authority to do so, issuing orders telling people

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<v Speaker 1>to close their business. This is the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 1>not communists China. You can't tell me to close my business.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think you in the Red state of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>They sent an m RAP and the sheriff's department to

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<v Speaker 1>a bar for serving people pers I was watching. I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember what happened when the government turned tyrannical. And

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<v Speaker 1>when the government turned tyrannical, we did not have massive,

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<v Speaker 1>widespread pushback from law enforcement in this country. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an indictment on them, because it's law enforcement has

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<v Speaker 1>never operated that way. It's in the enforcement arm of

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<v Speaker 1>the government, and they will enforce what the government says. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust them. No, I don't trust flock cameras. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the cops don't trust them. Jesse. Every day

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<v Speaker 1>it looks more and more like Texas will eventually fall

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<v Speaker 1>to the communists. With mosques popping up like weeds and

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<v Speaker 1>the entire Jihati communities all over the state, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like only a matter of time. Just like at the

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<v Speaker 1>federal level, the Republicans have full control in Texas and

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing to stop its downfall. Remember that we are destined.

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<v Speaker 3>You may.

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<v Speaker 1>For a constant struggle here on this earth. There is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, there's no destination. We will never get to

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<v Speaker 1>a place anywhere. Texas, your town, the country. We will

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<v Speaker 1>never get to a place where we can go. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>finally we can stop having to fight evil. Finally, evil people,

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<v Speaker 1>they've backed off, they have stopped their evil ways. They've quit.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to attack us anymore. That will never happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Evil people have wanted to take down Texas for a

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<v Speaker 1>very very long time. The Communists in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America have had their eyes on Texas heavily for

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<v Speaker 1>years and years and years because Texas, if they were

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<v Speaker 1>to ever take it, I mean, you can really con

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<v Speaker 1>or Texas a citadel inside the United States of America

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<v Speaker 1>for one reason and one reason only. It's all the

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<v Speaker 1>electoral College votes here. If they could actually take Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and turn Texas blue, then it would be hard to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine a Republican ever winning the presidency again, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Democrat, you already get to bank all those

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<v Speaker 1>California Electoral College votes every single time. If you were

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<v Speaker 1>to start out as a Democrat candidate and you're banking

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<v Speaker 1>California's votes and banking Texas's votes, geez, the other guide

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<v Speaker 1>practically have to run the table, which is not realistic

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<v Speaker 1>to think. So, yes, they're after Texas, of course, they're

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<v Speaker 1>after Texas, and Texas does have a bunch of weak

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<v Speaker 1>sister Republicans who are not strong enough. But we're getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>We are slowly getting better. It will not happen fast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to be next year. But red States

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<v Speaker 1>are ga better about getting redder. Haha, Chris, what Chris?

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<v Speaker 1>another edition of my favorite thing in politics. And what

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite thing in politics? Democrats pandering to Black people. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Kelly returns.

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<v Speaker 2>Next it is the Jesse Kelly Shall on a Wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday Home Day and you can email us Jesse at

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse kellyshow dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's time. I'm so excited. Before I get to it,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to give you a little bit of background.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a terrible person. As terrible person, I take enjoyment

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<v Speaker 1>in ridiculous, shameful, embarrassing things. I think it is hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious that Democrats will pander to black people as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as they do. They will do the most ridiculous, not

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<v Speaker 1>even close to believable things in order to get the

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<v Speaker 1>black vote in any area. What's this sound like? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>remember remember this dome accent. This is a doozy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just get to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Next sixty four days.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Gavin Newsom, this wasn't even long ago, out there

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<v Speaker 1>trying to win the Democrat primary. I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and do some hustling with his wonder bride.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, you know, it was also about paying the bills man,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was just like hustling. And so I was

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<v Speaker 4>out there kind of raising myself, turning on the TV started,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, the wonderbread.

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<v Speaker 1>And the stacks of you know, like the white SKA.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on.

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<v Speaker 3>You talking about me.

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<v Speaker 4>Every day every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden may have been the best ever. Is so

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<v Speaker 1>shameless unless say one thing to rest.

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<v Speaker 5>I may be a practicing Catholic, used to go to

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<v Speaker 5>seven thirty Mass every morning in high school and been

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<v Speaker 5>on to college before I went to the Black church.

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<v Speaker 5>Not a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>And you knows this. Yeah, he's never been in a

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<v Speaker 1>black choke in his life, black church in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden always a winner.

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<v Speaker 5>And Chain wall Street, You're gonna put you all back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Change Joe Biden. He even had a razor fight with

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<v Speaker 1>a black gangster named corn Pop.

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<v Speaker 5>Pop was a bad dude. And he ran a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of bad boys and I did. And back in those

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<v Speaker 5>days and shot things have changed. One of the things

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<v Speaker 5>you had to use, if you use palmate and your hair,

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<v Speaker 5>you had to wear a cot.

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<v Speaker 3>And chow.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up on the board. Wouldn't listen, mesh, Hey esther,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't maybe the most famous whatever, Hillary Clinton? What

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<v Speaker 1>you got in that purse? Hillary, even that you always

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<v Speaker 1>carry with you hot sauce? Really yeah, yeah, hot sauce

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<v Speaker 1>really yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to know people are going to see this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary does not keep hot sauce in her purse. Which

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<v Speaker 1>brings me to Abdul al Sayid currently running for Senate

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<v Speaker 1>and Michigan polls are all over the place. Some have

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<v Speaker 1>him up, so I have him down. But Abdul al

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<v Speaker 1>Sayid understands that he needs the black vote is if

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<v Speaker 1>he is to be the next senator in Michigan. And

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<v Speaker 1>so what do you do if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next senator for Michigan as a Democrat? Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Africa.

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<v Speaker 6>You know there's been an effort, I think, to divide

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<v Speaker 6>people against each other, and unfortunately you see that the

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<v Speaker 6>consequence of that to tell us that some group or

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<v Speaker 6>another group have to be counterposed because there's not enough

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<v Speaker 6>for all of us. I am Arab, I'm also African.

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<v Speaker 6>My family immigrated to this country from Egypt. I'm proud

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<v Speaker 6>of my African heritage.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so good. Hey, we came my family came from Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm African, like you. I love it all right. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm stupid and that I dream about stupid things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I brought this up earlier, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think about starting my own country because I'm a control

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<v Speaker 1>freak who wants to do everything the way I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Out hear me up, because I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Clay Martin about this. I'll kid you not.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an island. There's an island nation. It's mine, the

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<v Speaker 1>Republic of Jesse, a mountainous island nation. I haven't worked

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<v Speaker 1>out quite yet. What are economies going to be? But yes, mountainous,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris like tropical, but mountainous. There's lots of tropical mountainous places.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call it ten fifteen million people. Don't worry. There's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like no immigration, so it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a wonderful place, very clean. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do for a military. Now, it's an island nation,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have to have some kind of navy. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you just have ships out there, well, other more advanced,

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<v Speaker 1>larger countries are going to sweep them off of the

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<v Speaker 1>water and then it's a big waste. So submarines also. Drones.

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<v Speaker 1>Drones are all the rage.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I have like no military whatsoever and just be

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<v Speaker 1>the drone swarm country where no matter who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have to deal with just this living hell of drones.

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<v Speaker 1>But that brings me to this air defenses, missile defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>What's to stop a country from flying a bomber overhead

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty thousand feet and just bombing my entire island

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<v Speaker 1>to smithereenes? Can I stop that? Do I need satellites?

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<v Speaker 1>In case you're thinking to yourself, this is so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>It is stupid. But this is the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I daydream about when I wake up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night. And I already told you I

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<v Speaker 1>woke up at four a m. This morning and I

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<v Speaker 1>started thinking about it. Clay Martin was a marine forever

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<v Speaker 1>sniper recon and then went and it was a green

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<v Speaker 1>bereat forever. I want to know what Clay things. We're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to ask about important things like Iran, Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the status? Then we will get to other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to get to emails, communists being rich kids,

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<v Speaker 1>foreigners voting in our elections. All that and more to

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<v Speaker 1>still to come on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on The Jesse Kelly Show on air and online

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<v Speaker 1>at Jesse kellyshow dot com. It is the Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Show on a fantastic Wednesday. And joining me now is

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, former Green Beret Marine RICO marine sniper Clay Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>author of so many wonderful books, fiction and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how to survive nonfiction. H Clay. Okay, So I need

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<v Speaker 1>to walk through a couple current conflicts with you before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to defending the private island that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase one day. First of all, is Ukraine winning?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Good question. I've had questions about this ever since

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<v Speaker 3>the I mean, honestly, the years ago, the opening weeks

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<v Speaker 3>of the war, like the end, the Ghost to Kiev

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<v Speaker 3>thing and the Snake Island and the President of Ukraine

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<v Speaker 3>with the Green set. I don't know what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>over there. I certainly don't think they're winning though. This

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those things where it's a nuanced take.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think almost any of the information that

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<v Speaker 3>we get is real. But you look at Russian channels,

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<v Speaker 3>they say they're winning. You look at Ukrainian channels, I

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<v Speaker 3>say they're winning. I don't think anybody's winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, nobody's winning. What lessons have we learned about modern combat?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just that drones are really frightening?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a horrifying time to be alive. I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was not an original statement by me. But

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<v Speaker 3>the drones that we've seen in this conflict are the

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<v Speaker 3>same kind of change as a machine guns in World

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<v Speaker 3>War One. We don't even really understand what they'll do

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<v Speaker 3>yet we know they've changed tactics probably for the next

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years personally. That is the key battlefield development, and

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<v Speaker 3>we will see some wild things happen. You know, droves

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<v Speaker 3>be super valuable, that unvaluable give systems come up and

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth for a good warm while.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, shifting gears the infamous now war in Iran, which

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<v Speaker 1>is dragging on for ages. Can you explain why this

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<v Speaker 1>is taking so long to I mean, I see people

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<v Speaker 1>on TV all the time say, just finish the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Finish the job. I've done the best I can to

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<v Speaker 1>explain this to people. Clay, please explain what finishing the

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<v Speaker 1>job entails.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have to check Twitter and see if we

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<v Speaker 3>want to get in the day or not. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know again this is I'm very much in the

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Kent camp of like, I don't know what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why we did it, and I certainly

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what victory looks like. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that the Iranians are going to just fold from air strikes.

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<v Speaker 3>If they were going to do that, they would have

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<v Speaker 3>done it like nine governments ago. We did kill a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of their senior leadership. But I really think we're

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<v Speaker 3>running into this problem when we've drastically underestimated that they'd

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<v Speaker 3>spent the last twenty five years looking across the board

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<v Speaker 3>US fighting in Iraq and figuring out how to keep

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing from happening to them. So they were

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<v Speaker 3>on the original deck all the way back to two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and one. This was like a thing that was

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<v Speaker 3>talked about and even ending the Iraq War taken on Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was I don't know if it was like seriously talking.

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<v Speaker 3>It was talked about at certain levels though as a

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<v Speaker 3>theoretical during the Iraq War. But I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do that. I certainly don't think that we

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<v Speaker 3>have the political will for it, and honestly, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it would be something of a bloodbat to nothing. We

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<v Speaker 3>can't win, we can't win at a low price. I

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<v Speaker 3>really don't think that we can reopen the straits of

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<v Speaker 3>before moves with our naval power either. Our naval power

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<v Speaker 3>has actually been suffering badly for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things. And I don't mean that for

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<v Speaker 3>like technology, numbers of ships. I mean honestly, in quality

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<v Speaker 3>of sailors. There's some not much talked about studies done

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<v Speaker 3>on the aftermath of the US as coal, which everybody

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<v Speaker 3>kind of forgets about that I can remember that was

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<v Speaker 3>early two thousand and one, nine to eleven, or if that

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<v Speaker 3>was the year two thousand. I got it was a ship.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a dry dock in I don't know, bo

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<v Speaker 3>Rain or Qatar somewhere over there and got rammed by

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<v Speaker 3>basically a small suicide boat and it took damage. But

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<v Speaker 3>what's not talked about is a lot of the fire

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<v Speaker 3>control systems, a lot of things that sailors have to

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<v Speaker 3>do on board to keep a ship from sinking. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of actually just abandoned their post. They bailed. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they were in port, it's not they were in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the Indian Ocean. But still it should have

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<v Speaker 3>been a shock being wake up called the US Navy,

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<v Speaker 3>and things, in my opinion, have not gotten better since.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have institutional problems there that need to be

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<v Speaker 3>looked at, and we have serious things to address.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's drill down on that again. We're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>with Green Beret Clay Martin, author Clay Martin, because we

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<v Speaker 1>all remember, I think was the bonhoff Bonhoffer forgive me,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the name of the ship in again, another

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<v Speaker 1>Navy ship in Port San Diego. If I remember, right, fire,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they couldn't even set off the freaking alarms.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was a disaster. So when I think

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<v Speaker 1>of the Navy, and now, granted I got out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Marine Corps in two thousand and four, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work much with the Navy back then, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I think that there's some grizzled old chief

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<v Speaker 1>who knows everything and he's whipping sailors into line every

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<v Speaker 1>day and they're drilling on this stuff every day. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff not happening? And if it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Why, Honestly? I mean, that's my conclusion. Yeah, I spent

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<v Speaker 3>time in the Navy. If you won in the same

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<v Speaker 3>way that you did not, I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever actually did a float on him. I did, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I spend some time on one of those,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was two two thousand and three. Those ships

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<v Speaker 3>are a little bit different though, because they're also full

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<v Speaker 3>of marines, so the discipline stuff is easily forced as

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<v Speaker 3>well as if if the Navy starts falling apart, the

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<v Speaker 3>commander that book and easily go over to one of

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<v Speaker 3>the marine guys and be like, hey, give me a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty guys with sticks to correct this problem right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>things the way things go. But we also have to

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<v Speaker 3>look at the recruiting and things that were done by

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<v Speaker 3>the Navy during the G one. It was there was

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<v Speaker 3>some subtle, like real recruitment campaigns that were like, you know, basically,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't die in the Navy because we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>under the desert. So I believe Honestly, the Navy developed

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<v Speaker 3>like no O the last twenty really paid attention. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the Seaborn threat from you know, two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>one to twenty twenty. It was it was really nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>We were so biting wrapped up in these wars. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>was really paying attention. Rod has sung deep. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not exactly an expert on modern day Navy, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>my take on Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, if we had to get it back, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously, as much as it pains me to admit it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably the most important branch of the military for

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<v Speaker 1>a country like ours. If we have to get it

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<v Speaker 1>back and squared away, how does how do we begin?

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<v Speaker 1>It's Pete Hagg says, starting that, I mean this, this

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<v Speaker 1>is something we have to have. Even the founding fathers

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<v Speaker 1>knew we had to have a navy, A good.

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<v Speaker 3>One, right, oh, no, one percent. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>again the thing that's lost, especially on a bunch of

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 3>ground based service guys like you don't matter the Navy does.

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<v Speaker 3>It is by far the most important to you, guess

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<v Speaker 3>that that we have. How do you get it back?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very good question. Honestly, you have to look

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<v Speaker 3>at the way that the Army reformed after Vietnam. There

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<v Speaker 3>were there's about a decade where the Army, Marine Corps,

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<v Speaker 3>both but especially the Army had a huge crisis of

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<v Speaker 3>morale and discipline and basically ad res Vietnam, it just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of fell apart. It was a rampant drug use.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't get kicked out for you, you might lose

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<v Speaker 3>your weekend, all kinds of bad stuff going on. And

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<v Speaker 3>it took about another five or ten years after that

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<v Speaker 3>of incredibly well applied willpower to kind of bring it

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<v Speaker 3>back to something that was functional. And a scary thing

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<v Speaker 3>in the meantime is you're going to lose a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of numbers of guys, so your overall force projection is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be smaller. It's going to be difficult. And

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<v Speaker 3>in that rebuilding time period, which again we're talking years

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<v Speaker 3>to do here, at minimum of five years, I would

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<v Speaker 3>say probably more like ten, your Navy might be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty forty percent of what it is now functionally.

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<v Speaker 1>God Okay, all right, all right, So Clay, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this because I've heard people, certainly guys I

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<v Speaker 1>know in recruiting who have said this, and I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this much last night is the is the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>young person in America also affecting this? We just have

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<v Speaker 1>more kids on anti anxiety medication. They're fatter, right, They

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<v Speaker 1>don't play as many sports as maybe old timers like

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<v Speaker 1>us played. Is that a big problem?

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<v Speaker 3>It is. It's actually a huge drum. And it's actually

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<v Speaker 3>worse even than that, even than just the physical stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Navy, if we're being honest, maybe besides of

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>the Air Force, is the least physical of the services

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<v Speaker 3>as far as like you know, I don't know, bench

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>preston run or something like that, but the Navy is

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<v Speaker 3>the most technical because of like mechanical skills. Now, even

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<v Speaker 3>about I don't know, fifteen years ago, when I was

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<v Speaker 3>still in we were starting to get you know, younger

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<v Speaker 3>guys that were just about you know, ten years younger

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<v Speaker 3>than me. A lot of them couldn't use a hammer,

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 3>recresse range all right, because they they didn't have a

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 3>dad that did that kind of stuff. He took his

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<v Speaker 3>car to Jiffy lube. He never did a home improvement projects.

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<v Speaker 3>He worked in a cubicle. Or they were raised by

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<v Speaker 3>you know, half the time, all half the time their

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<v Speaker 3>dad who was you know, not that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So just like the things that you think are stupid

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<v Speaker 3>from growing up on a farm, like you know, identifying

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<v Speaker 3>instead of vice gripts. Imagine having to learn everything about

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<v Speaker 3>every mechanic bowl when you're nineteen twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Okay, Clay, do you have a couple minutes for

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<v Speaker 1>me on the back end?

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<v Speaker 3>Here?

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to warn you now, we were about

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<v Speaker 1>to have the dumbest conversation in the world because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to start my own country. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>an island country, and I'm worried about how I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to put together in the military. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes for that on the back end?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We are going to come right back with

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the great Clay Martin. He's going to help me build

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<v Speaker 1>a military that can protect my island. Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to Clay, I want to get to this. Speaking of Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've heard me tell stories, many of them

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<v Speaker 1>before about MACV Sog MACV saw behind enemy lines Laos, Cambodia,

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>dying in droves, doing the bravest, craziest things you can imagine. Yeah,

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the guy who leads pure talk. Do you know

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that pure talk is led by that guy. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how there's a company that doesn't rip you off,

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>then no contract, no cancelation fee, a fraction of the

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>costs of the big guys. If you're wondering how there's

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a company, a wireless company where it's one hundred percent

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>US customer service, nobody does that anymore. If you're wondering

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>how those things are possible, don't wonder anymore. Puretalk is

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>how those things are possible. That's what happens when you're

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>led by a Vietnam veteran. Switch to that company. Put

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<v Speaker 1>your money where your morals are. Pound two five zero,

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<v Speaker 1>say Jesse Kelly, We'll be back. You're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>ourcle You love this one. It's a scream baby, the

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Back

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<v Speaker 1>with my friend, Green Beret author Clay Martin Clay I

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<v Speaker 1>already told everybody in the audience. Now I have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I'm not kidding. I daydream a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>starting my own country, a mountain island, we'll call it

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<v Speaker 1>ten fifteen million people. And it kept me up last

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<v Speaker 1>night thinking about what my military would be. I'm figuring

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand ground troops max. Really everyone else civilian trained,

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, marksmanship and school things like that. No women,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I don't know what to do for a navy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I even need an air force? How do I

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<v Speaker 1>keep the dirty Chinese from conquering my island?

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh? I think at that level, I think the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do is to play left behind. Japanese guys

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry about a navy and don't worry about an

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 3>air force cause they're expensive and easy to break by

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 3>much bigger state actors. Not easy for somebody else to break.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think you take this, Yeah, Singapore model, you

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 3>have some extremely well paid grunts. We're talking like two

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<v Speaker 3>fifty a year. What they are just yeah? Oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah they're soft. Guys are paid extremely well. Their brother

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 3>paid pre pretty impressively. Use that they get an incredibly

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>professional force too. You know, they are getting some of

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>like you know, the absolutist there is not just for

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 3>patriotm but for lifestyle. So I would say that we

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 3>go that route, and then we also flip it around.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Were injection, Green Brain and Jessic Kelly's Army on this

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<v Speaker 3>I the only sports that we allow on that sports

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, marksmanship stuff like like Switzerland does for

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 3>a national three hundred were rifle is actually Switzerland's national sport. Uh,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, mma, this kind of thing. And then we've

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<v Speaker 3>got to really make guerrilla force the minute that we needed.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Somebody tries to invade our mountainous islands.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that now, see, I love what you're what

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking there, That's what I was kind of going

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>with the you know what, civilian military. Everybody we're shooting everybody.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's shooting in school. Maybe we're boxing in school, everybody's wrestling.

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>That's just a requirement. We're going to have a society

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<v Speaker 1>full of young men who are ready to rock if

0:31:55.960 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>called upon. But no, no navy. And I'm not saying

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>put out an aircraft carrier, because like you said, some

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>major countries just gonna fire and missile one of the

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<v Speaker 1>side of it. And then I wasted all that money.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. But no subs. The mines nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Mines are good, all right, as we've seen, mines are

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<v Speaker 3>very effective. We just said in the again in the

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Random Bible. They're very cheap, yeah, and they're very effective. Subs.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you can build one that's cheap enough

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid detection and justes not get one out of

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<v Speaker 3>What was it that one of the Iranian subs got

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<v Speaker 3>sank by a US Army artillery, which is breaking for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all things that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna leave a mark on the old pride. See, I'd

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 3>say that we stick to mines and we stick the

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 3>land stuff. If you're gonna do anything, I would expand

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<v Speaker 3>the sports arena into fast boat racing and water skiing,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>and then we build like old school pet boats that

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<v Speaker 3>are basically expendable, uh, basically taking the drone model on this,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we want like fifty to one hundred thousand dollars boats,

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<v Speaker 3>not you know, million dollar.

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<v Speaker 1>Boats, easy to manufacture, easy to maintain. I get it

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Clay. I cannot possibly let you go without asking.

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<v Speaker 1>Those singapore guys making two hundred and fifty g's a year,

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<v Speaker 1>are they studs?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Man, that was years ago. It was surprised that's

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 3>got up now. They are very impressive, I mean incredibly impressive.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 3>I actually want to say Jordanian camados made quite a

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>bit too. I remember what their exact career is. They're

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<v Speaker 3>very impressive as well. Yeah. Yeah, it turns out that

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<v Speaker 3>if you paid todd. This is an interesting thing. There

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 3>have been studies done on this in the American way.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes money isn't incentive and sometimes it's not, but there

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<v Speaker 3>is a sweet spot where you're retaining really good quality

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 3>guys longer than you would have. And it's right around that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a huge temptation for you green berets, super

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>ninja types to get out and make real cash in

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the private sector, private military contractors, things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually saw this a lot early in the War

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<v Speaker 3>Winner com record job. We're paying that well a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of guys that are the first enlistment. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>choice of do I go make a bunch of money,

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<v Speaker 3>especially for two thousand and three two thousand and four dollars,

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 3>or do I continue down the patriotism route. And there's

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 3>some other subtle differences between it, but there were quite

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 3>a few that went that way. So yeah, I mean,

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 3>the temptation is always, especially when the money was easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Clay, my man, what's your latest books?

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<v Speaker 3>You can plug it Barbarian Spirit, and it is about

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 3>our psychedelic nonprofit.

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<v Speaker 1>For veterans, Barbarian Spirit. Clay Martin, no support the man.

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<v Speaker 1>Clay appreciates you as always.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Chris, you're probably gonna have to handle some accounting

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>for the new island two hundred and fifty gees soldier. What, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>What am I selling to be able to afford this? Well,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the island is going to have to have some sort

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of I've actually been thinking about this too. I daydream

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 1>about really stupid things. We are either going to happen

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to have to have an island with some sort of

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>natural resource people want. I don't care whether that's oil, lithium,

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever a natural resource people want, or we're gonna have

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to have an island people want to visit, funded by tourism,

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. But I don't want a bunch

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>of people visiting the island. I don't even like when

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>family comes to visit. I don't want people visiting the island.

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<v Speaker 1>So what, Chris, Well, I know my compound would be

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>separate from the tourists. Chris, but this is not about me.

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>This is about making life the way it should be

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in the Republic of Jesse for myself, children and future generations.

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>I haven't totally worked out what the industry is going

0:35:55.360 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to be yet. What Chris mentioned offshore tax haven. One,

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the least surprising thing in the world. That's what

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you would mention. Two a kid, you not. That occurred

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to me about two hours ago. I was thinking, we'll

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>do what the Swiss do, and we'll do what the

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Caymans do. It's really the ultimate and national security. If

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>you think about it, everyone has their money here. If

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone has their money there, no one wants to attack

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it because everyone's hiding cash in the Republic of Jesse.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>We still have an hour left. It might get more serious.

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<v Speaker 3>Hang on