Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show.
Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1: Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic,
Speaker 1: wonderful Wednesday. So here's what we have coming up this hour.
Speaker 1: Half hour from now. We're going to talk to our
Speaker 1: friend Green Beret Clay Martin. Check in on Ukraine, check
Speaker 1: in on Iran. I'm gonna talk to Clay more about
Speaker 1: the defense system I need for my private island. We
Speaker 1: can get into that in a little while. We are
Speaker 1: going to make merciless, merciless fun of Democrats, once again
Speaker 1: pandering to black people in the most cringe worthy ways
Speaker 1: humanly possible. Thanks, Abdul Al said for one of those.
Speaker 3: Ah that so.
Speaker 1: Much more still to come on the second hour. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna first get to this one. Apparently it's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the show a lot. These flock cameras, these camera
Speaker 1: systems that are getting placed all over town, and this
Speaker 1: guy writes it an email. Vergot email, very well thought out,
Speaker 1: said Jesse. I heard your segment today about flock cameras,
Speaker 1: and I felt compelled to chime in. My wife was
Speaker 1: a city councilwoman. I asked her about these cameras. We
Speaker 1: live in a smallish town here in Texas forty thousand residents,
Speaker 1: and the cameras are positioned at all major entrances and
Speaker 1: exits to the city. I noticed you and others often
Speaker 1: say they don't want quote the government spying on them.
Speaker 1: It's not the government, it's your local police force. And
Speaker 1: all it does is read license plates, reported stolen vehicles,
Speaker 1: amber alerts, bolos, etc. That have been entered into the
Speaker 1: system and flagged when someone drives in or out of
Speaker 1: your city. The failed Trump assassin in Florida was caught
Speaker 1: with flock cameras. There's no spying, there's no mass surveillance
Speaker 1: regarding flock in the government. It just reads license plates
Speaker 1: and notifies the police. My worry about out this, about
Speaker 1: this new and out of nowhere flock pandemonium, is what
Speaker 1: will replace it, so on and so forth. Hope this
Speaker 1: shed some positive light on flock cameras, because they're not
Speaker 1: what the current hype is making them out to be. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I just want to touch on this point because
Speaker 1: that's a very good it's a very good email, it's informative,
Speaker 1: it's well thought out. Here's a headline for you. Flock
Speaker 1: cameras now track all phones, air pods, and smart watches
Speaker 1: that pass them thanks to something called signal trace. All right,
Speaker 1: that's one two. You say, it's not the government, it's
Speaker 1: your local police force. So I'm going to be as
Speaker 1: delicate as I possibly can in saying this, and I
Speaker 1: say this knowing full well that cops listen to this,
Speaker 1: state troopers, sheriffs all over the United States of America.
Speaker 1: Why would I trust the local police force? Do you
Speaker 1: remember COVID? I remember COVID. Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I have a million friends who are cops. I send
Speaker 1: pizzas to the local cops. But you know how I
Speaker 1: feel about the issue. However, as a whole, how many officers,
Speaker 1: police officers, sheriffs, state troopers in the United States of America?
Speaker 1: How many of them refused to enforce the COVID orders
Speaker 1: that came down from evil governors and evil mayors. You
Speaker 1: can count them on one hand. Now, this is where
Speaker 1: you'll email me, and it's a totally valid email, Jesse.
Speaker 1: If I didn't enforce it, I would have been fired
Speaker 1: and they would have simply hired someone else who did
Speaker 1: enforce it. That's very fair. One hundred percent true, not
Speaker 1: arguing with you on that, but that in a way
Speaker 1: makes my point for me. A police force serves under
Speaker 1: the government that's over it, under the government that's over it.
Speaker 1: You know those those Venice Beach during speaking of COVID
Speaker 1: out in Venice, I think it was Venice Beach. Don't
Speaker 1: quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure it was
Speaker 1: Venice Beach. There's video you can go look at it.
Speaker 1: A guy was in the ocean by himself, paddle boarding
Speaker 1: during COVID. The police showed up on the beach, brought
Speaker 1: him in handcuffed him and frog marked him, marched him
Speaker 1: off the beach for paddle boarding by himself outside. Now,
Speaker 1: I have no idea the names of those cops. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what they were thinking at the time,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this, I would bet money those
Speaker 1: cops if they're worth anything. I bet they were thinking
Speaker 1: the whole time, this is ridiculous. I joined the police
Speaker 1: force to stop bad guys, to protect people and do
Speaker 1: cool stuff, and I'm arresting paddle borders. Now, I bet
Speaker 1: they thought to themselves, this sucks. It's ridiculous and I
Speaker 1: hate it, but they did it. They did it. This
Speaker 1: is not at all, some anti cop rant at all.
Speaker 1: This is a basic acknowledgment that whatever the police force is, federal, state,
Speaker 1: or local, they will do as they are ordered to do.
Speaker 1: So you say, flock cameras, not the local government. It's
Speaker 1: just the cops, Okay, just the cops, ma'am. Donnie has
Speaker 1: a whole police force under him. A'bdu al Saye is
Speaker 1: in Michigan. You want him, You want him telling the
Speaker 1: cops what to do. You want Gavin Newsom telling the
Speaker 1: cops what to do? Communists trained mayor Karen Bass of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, do you want her telling the cops what
Speaker 1: to do? I understand, I understand the appeal of hey,
Speaker 1: let's find kidnapped kids. Totally get it. I am sorry,
Speaker 1: especially after COVID. I was this way anyway, but especially
Speaker 1: after COVID. I am so jaded on government power. I
Speaker 1: am so jaded on what they will do with power,
Speaker 1: because I'm old enough to remember governors and mayors who
Speaker 1: had no authority to do so, issuing orders telling people
Speaker 1: to close their business. This is the United States of America,
Speaker 1: not communists China. You can't tell me to close my business.
Speaker 1: Who do you think you in the Red state of Texas.
Speaker 1: They sent an m RAP and the sheriff's department to
Speaker 1: a bar for serving people pers I was watching. I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember what happened when the government turned tyrannical. And
Speaker 1: when the government turned tyrannical, we did not have massive,
Speaker 1: widespread pushback from law enforcement in this country. And that's
Speaker 1: not an indictment on them, because it's law enforcement has
Speaker 1: never operated that way. It's in the enforcement arm of
Speaker 1: the government, and they will enforce what the government says. No,
Speaker 1: I don't trust them. No, I don't trust flock cameras. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just the cops don't trust them. Jesse. Every day
Speaker 1: it looks more and more like Texas will eventually fall
Speaker 1: to the communists. With mosques popping up like weeds and
Speaker 1: the entire Jihati communities all over the state, it seems
Speaker 1: like only a matter of time. Just like at the
Speaker 1: federal level, the Republicans have full control in Texas and
Speaker 1: do nothing to stop its downfall. Remember that we are destined.
Speaker 3: You may.
Speaker 1: For a constant struggle here on this earth. There is
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's no destination. We will never get to
Speaker 1: a place anywhere. Texas, your town, the country. We will
Speaker 1: never get to a place where we can go. Oh,
Speaker 1: finally we can stop having to fight evil. Finally, evil people,
Speaker 1: they've backed off, they have stopped their evil ways. They've quit.
Speaker 1: They're not going to attack us anymore. That will never happen.
Speaker 1: Evil people have wanted to take down Texas for a
Speaker 1: very very long time. The Communists in the United States
Speaker 1: of America have had their eyes on Texas heavily for
Speaker 1: years and years and years because Texas, if they were
Speaker 1: to ever take it, I mean, you can really con
Speaker 1: or Texas a citadel inside the United States of America
Speaker 1: for one reason and one reason only. It's all the
Speaker 1: electoral College votes here. If they could actually take Texas
Speaker 1: and turn Texas blue, then it would be hard to
Speaker 1: imagine a Republican ever winning the presidency again, because if
Speaker 1: you're a Democrat, you already get to bank all those
Speaker 1: California Electoral College votes every single time. If you were
Speaker 1: to start out as a Democrat candidate and you're banking
Speaker 1: California's votes and banking Texas's votes, geez, the other guide
Speaker 1: practically have to run the table, which is not realistic
Speaker 1: to think. So, yes, they're after Texas, of course, they're
Speaker 1: after Texas, and Texas does have a bunch of weak
Speaker 1: sister Republicans who are not strong enough. But we're getting better.
Speaker 1: We are slowly getting better. It will not happen fast.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be next year. But red States
Speaker 1: are ga better about getting redder. Haha, Chris, what Chris?
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Speaker 1: So it's time. I'm so excited. Before I get to it,
Speaker 1: I just have to give you a little bit of background.
Speaker 1: I'm a terrible person. As terrible person, I take enjoyment
Speaker 1: in ridiculous, shameful, embarrassing things. I think it is hilarious,
Speaker 1: hilarious that Democrats will pander to black people as hard
Speaker 1: as they do. They will do the most ridiculous, not
Speaker 1: even close to believable things in order to get the
Speaker 1: black vote in any area. What's this sound like? Well,
Speaker 1: remember remember this dome accent. This is a doozy.
Speaker 2: I just get to the.
Speaker 3: Next sixty four days.
Speaker 1: Remember Gavin Newsom, this wasn't even long ago, out there
Speaker 1: trying to win the Democrat primary. I had to get
Speaker 1: out there and do some hustling with his wonder bride.
Speaker 4: Also, you know, it was also about paying the bills man,
Speaker 4: and it was just like hustling. And so I was
Speaker 4: out there kind of raising myself, turning on the TV started,
Speaker 4: you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with
Speaker 4: the you know, the wonderbread.
Speaker 1: And the stacks of you know, like the white SKA.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 3: You talking about me.
Speaker 4: Every day every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden may have been the best ever. Is so
Speaker 1: shameless unless say one thing to rest.
Speaker 5: I may be a practicing Catholic, used to go to
Speaker 5: seven thirty Mass every morning in high school and been
Speaker 5: on to college before I went to the Black church.
Speaker 5: Not a joke.
Speaker 1: And you knows this. Yeah, he's never been in a
Speaker 1: black choke in his life, black church in his life.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden always a winner.
Speaker 5: And Chain wall Street, You're gonna put you all back in.
Speaker 1: Change Joe Biden. He even had a razor fight with
Speaker 1: a black gangster named corn Pop.
Speaker 5: Pop was a bad dude. And he ran a bunch
Speaker 5: of bad boys and I did. And back in those
Speaker 5: days and shot things have changed. One of the things
Speaker 5: you had to use, if you use palmate and your hair,
Speaker 5: you had to wear a cot.
Speaker 3: And chow.
Speaker 1: He's up on the board. Wouldn't listen, mesh, Hey esther,
Speaker 1: I can't maybe the most famous whatever, Hillary Clinton? What
Speaker 1: you got in that purse? Hillary, even that you always
Speaker 1: carry with you hot sauce? Really yeah, yeah, hot sauce
Speaker 1: really yes.
Speaker 3: I want you to know people are going to see this.
Speaker 1: Hillary does not keep hot sauce in her purse. Which
Speaker 1: brings me to Abdul al Sayid currently running for Senate
Speaker 1: and Michigan polls are all over the place. Some have
Speaker 1: him up, so I have him down. But Abdul al
Speaker 1: Sayid understands that he needs the black vote is if
Speaker 1: he is to be the next senator in Michigan. And
Speaker 1: so what do you do if you want to be
Speaker 1: the next senator for Michigan as a Democrat? Hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm Africa.
Speaker 6: You know there's been an effort, I think, to divide
Speaker 6: people against each other, and unfortunately you see that the
Speaker 6: consequence of that to tell us that some group or
Speaker 6: another group have to be counterposed because there's not enough
Speaker 6: for all of us. I am Arab, I'm also African.
Speaker 6: My family immigrated to this country from Egypt. I'm proud
Speaker 6: of my African heritage.
Speaker 1: That's so good. Hey, we came my family came from Egypt.
Speaker 1: I'm African, like you. I love it all right. You
Speaker 1: know that I'm stupid and that I dream about stupid things.
Speaker 1: And I think I brought this up earlier, but I
Speaker 1: think about starting my own country because I'm a control
Speaker 1: freak who wants to do everything the way I want
Speaker 1: to do it. Out hear me up, because I'm about
Speaker 1: to ask Clay Martin about this. I'll kid you not.
Speaker 1: There's an island. There's an island nation. It's mine, the
Speaker 1: Republic of Jesse, a mountainous island nation. I haven't worked
Speaker 1: out quite yet. What are economies going to be? But yes, mountainous,
Speaker 1: Chris like tropical, but mountainous. There's lots of tropical mountainous places.
Speaker 1: We'll call it ten fifteen million people. Don't worry. There's
Speaker 1: going to be like no immigration, so it's going to
Speaker 1: be a wonderful place, very clean. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do for a military. Now, it's an island nation,
Speaker 1: so I have to have some kind of navy. But
Speaker 1: if you just have ships out there, well, other more advanced,
Speaker 1: larger countries are going to sweep them off of the
Speaker 1: water and then it's a big waste. So submarines also. Drones.
Speaker 1: Drones are all the rage.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Should I have like no military whatsoever and just be
Speaker 1: the drone swarm country where no matter who you are,
Speaker 1: you'll have to deal with just this living hell of drones.
Speaker 1: But that brings me to this air defenses, missile defenses.
Speaker 1: What's to stop a country from flying a bomber overhead
Speaker 1: at thirty thousand feet and just bombing my entire island
Speaker 1: to smithereenes? Can I stop that? Do I need satellites?
Speaker 1: In case you're thinking to yourself, this is so stupid.
Speaker 1: It is stupid. But this is the kind of thing
Speaker 1: that I daydream about when I wake up in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night. And I already told you I
Speaker 1: woke up at four a m. This morning and I
Speaker 1: started thinking about it. Clay Martin was a marine forever
Speaker 1: sniper recon and then went and it was a green
Speaker 1: bereat forever. I want to know what Clay things. We're
Speaker 1: also going to ask about important things like Iran, Ukraine,
Speaker 1: what's the status? Then we will get to other stuff.
Speaker 1: We have to get to emails, communists being rich kids,
Speaker 1: foreigners voting in our elections. All that and more to
Speaker 1: still to come on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1: Hang on The Jesse Kelly Show on air and online
Speaker 1: at Jesse kellyshow dot com. It is the Jesse Kelly
Speaker 1: Show on a fantastic Wednesday. And joining me now is
Speaker 1: my friend, former Green Beret Marine RICO marine sniper Clay Martin,
Speaker 1: author of so many wonderful books, fiction and kind of
Speaker 1: how to survive nonfiction. H Clay. Okay, So I need
Speaker 1: to walk through a couple current conflicts with you before
Speaker 1: we get to defending the private island that I'm going
Speaker 1: to purchase one day. First of all, is Ukraine winning?
Speaker 3: Now? Good question. I've had questions about this ever since
Speaker 3: the I mean, honestly, the years ago, the opening weeks
Speaker 3: of the war, like the end, the Ghost to Kiev
Speaker 3: thing and the Snake Island and the President of Ukraine
Speaker 3: with the Green set. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 3: over there. I certainly don't think they're winning though. This
Speaker 3: is one of those things where it's a nuanced take.
Speaker 3: But I don't think almost any of the information that
Speaker 3: we get is real. But you look at Russian channels,
Speaker 3: they say they're winning. You look at Ukrainian channels, I
Speaker 3: say they're winning. I don't think anybody's winning.
Speaker 1: Okay, nobody's winning. What lessons have we learned about modern combat?
Speaker 1: Is it just that drones are really frightening?
Speaker 3: This is a horrifying time to be alive. I agree,
Speaker 3: and it was not an original statement by me. But
Speaker 3: the drones that we've seen in this conflict are the
Speaker 3: same kind of change as a machine guns in World
Speaker 3: War One. We don't even really understand what they'll do
Speaker 3: yet we know they've changed tactics probably for the next
Speaker 3: thirty years personally. That is the key battlefield development, and
Speaker 3: we will see some wild things happen. You know, droves
Speaker 3: be super valuable, that unvaluable give systems come up and
Speaker 3: back and forth for a good warm while.
Speaker 1: Okay, shifting gears the infamous now war in Iran, which
Speaker 1: is dragging on for ages. Can you explain why this
Speaker 1: is taking so long to I mean, I see people
Speaker 1: on TV all the time say, just finish the job.
Speaker 1: Finish the job. I've done the best I can to
Speaker 1: explain this to people. Clay, please explain what finishing the
Speaker 1: job entails.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to check Twitter and see if we
Speaker 3: want to get in the day or not. Yes, right,
Speaker 3: you know again this is I'm very much in the
Speaker 3: Joe Kent camp of like, I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 3: I don't know why we did it, and I certainly
Speaker 3: don't know what victory looks like. But I don't think
Speaker 3: that the Iranians are going to just fold from air strikes.
Speaker 3: If they were going to do that, they would have
Speaker 3: done it like nine governments ago. We did kill a
Speaker 3: lot of their senior leadership. But I really think we're
Speaker 3: running into this problem when we've drastically underestimated that they'd
Speaker 3: spent the last twenty five years looking across the board
Speaker 3: US fighting in Iraq and figuring out how to keep
Speaker 3: the same thing from happening to them. So they were
Speaker 3: on the original deck all the way back to two
Speaker 3: thousand and one. This was like a thing that was
Speaker 3: talked about and even ending the Iraq War taken on Iran.
Speaker 3: Who was I don't know if it was like seriously talking.
Speaker 3: It was talked about at certain levels though as a
Speaker 3: theoretical during the Iraq War. But I don't think we're
Speaker 3: going to do that. I certainly don't think that we
Speaker 3: have the political will for it, and honestly, I think
Speaker 3: it would be something of a bloodbat to nothing. We
Speaker 3: can't win, we can't win at a low price. I
Speaker 3: really don't think that we can reopen the straits of
Speaker 3: before moves with our naval power either. Our naval power
Speaker 3: has actually been suffering badly for a long long time.
Speaker 3: One of the things. And I don't mean that for
Speaker 3: like technology, numbers of ships. I mean honestly, in quality
Speaker 3: of sailors. There's some not much talked about studies done
Speaker 3: on the aftermath of the US as coal, which everybody
Speaker 3: kind of forgets about that I can remember that was
Speaker 3: early two thousand and one, nine to eleven, or if that
Speaker 3: was the year two thousand. I got it was a ship.
Speaker 3: It was a dry dock in I don't know, bo
Speaker 3: Rain or Qatar somewhere over there and got rammed by
Speaker 3: basically a small suicide boat and it took damage. But
Speaker 3: what's not talked about is a lot of the fire
Speaker 3: control systems, a lot of things that sailors have to
Speaker 3: do on board to keep a ship from sinking. A
Speaker 3: lot of actually just abandoned their post. They bailed. Now
Speaker 3: they were in port, it's not they were in the
Speaker 3: middle of the Indian Ocean. But still it should have
Speaker 3: been a shock being wake up called the US Navy,
Speaker 3: and things, in my opinion, have not gotten better since.
Speaker 3: So we have institutional problems there that need to be
Speaker 3: looked at, and we have serious things to address.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's drill down on that again. We're speaking
Speaker 1: with Green Beret Clay Martin, author Clay Martin, because we
Speaker 1: all remember, I think was the bonhoff Bonhoffer forgive me,
Speaker 1: I forget the name of the ship in again, another
Speaker 1: Navy ship in Port San Diego. If I remember, right, fire,
Speaker 1: I mean they couldn't even set off the freaking alarms.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a disaster. So when I think
Speaker 1: of the Navy, and now, granted I got out of
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps in two thousand and four, we didn't
Speaker 1: work much with the Navy back then, or at least
Speaker 1: I didn't. I think that there's some grizzled old chief
Speaker 1: who knows everything and he's whipping sailors into line every
Speaker 1: day and they're drilling on this stuff every day. Is
Speaker 1: this stuff not happening? And if it's not happening.
Speaker 3: Why, Honestly? I mean, that's my conclusion. Yeah, I spent
Speaker 3: time in the Navy. If you won in the same
Speaker 3: way that you did not, I don't even know if
Speaker 3: you ever actually did a float on him. I did, Okay,
Speaker 3: I did. I spend some time on one of those,
Speaker 3: but it was two two thousand and three. Those ships
Speaker 3: are a little bit different though, because they're also full
Speaker 3: of marines, so the discipline stuff is easily forced as
Speaker 3: well as if if the Navy starts falling apart, the
Speaker 3: commander that book and easily go over to one of
Speaker 3: the marine guys and be like, hey, give me a
Speaker 3: twenty guys with sticks to correct this problem right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: things the way things go. But we also have to
Speaker 3: look at the recruiting and things that were done by
Speaker 3: the Navy during the G one. It was there was
Speaker 3: some subtle, like real recruitment campaigns that were like, you know, basically,
Speaker 3: you can't die in the Navy because we're not going
Speaker 3: under the desert. So I believe Honestly, the Navy developed
Speaker 3: like no O the last twenty really paid attention. It
Speaker 3: was the Seaborn threat from you know, two thousand and
Speaker 3: one to twenty twenty. It was it was really nothing.
Speaker 3: We were so biting wrapped up in these wars. Everybody
Speaker 3: was really paying attention. Rod has sung deep. Now I'm
Speaker 3: not exactly an expert on modern day Navy, but that's
Speaker 3: my take on Thanks.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, if we had to get it back, because
Speaker 1: I'm obviously, as much as it pains me to admit it,
Speaker 1: it's probably the most important branch of the military for
Speaker 1: a country like ours. If we have to get it
Speaker 1: back and squared away, how does how do we begin?
Speaker 1: It's Pete Hagg says, starting that, I mean this, this
Speaker 1: is something we have to have. Even the founding fathers
Speaker 1: knew we had to have a navy, A good.
Speaker 3: One, right, oh, no, one percent. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: again the thing that's lost, especially on a bunch of
Speaker 3: ground based service guys like you don't matter the Navy does.
Speaker 3: It is by far the most important to you, guess
Speaker 3: that that we have. How do you get it back?
Speaker 3: That's a very good question. Honestly, you have to look
Speaker 3: at the way that the Army reformed after Vietnam. There
Speaker 3: were there's about a decade where the Army, Marine Corps,
Speaker 3: both but especially the Army had a huge crisis of
Speaker 3: morale and discipline and basically ad res Vietnam, it just
Speaker 3: kind of fell apart. It was a rampant drug use.
Speaker 3: You didn't get kicked out for you, you might lose
Speaker 3: your weekend, all kinds of bad stuff going on. And
Speaker 3: it took about another five or ten years after that
Speaker 3: of incredibly well applied willpower to kind of bring it
Speaker 3: back to something that was functional. And a scary thing
Speaker 3: in the meantime is you're going to lose a lot
Speaker 3: of numbers of guys, so your overall force projection is
Speaker 3: going to be smaller. It's going to be difficult. And
Speaker 3: in that rebuilding time period, which again we're talking years
Speaker 3: to do here, at minimum of five years, I would
Speaker 3: say probably more like ten, your Navy might be you know,
Speaker 3: thirty forty percent of what it is now functionally.
Speaker 1: God Okay, all right, all right, So Clay, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this because I've heard people, certainly guys I
Speaker 1: know in recruiting who have said this, and I mentioned
Speaker 1: this much last night is the is the quality of
Speaker 1: young person in America also affecting this? We just have
Speaker 1: more kids on anti anxiety medication. They're fatter, right, They
Speaker 1: don't play as many sports as maybe old timers like
Speaker 1: us played. Is that a big problem?
Speaker 3: It is. It's actually a huge drum. And it's actually
Speaker 3: worse even than that, even than just the physical stuff,
Speaker 3: because the Navy, if we're being honest, maybe besides of
Speaker 3: the Air Force, is the least physical of the services
Speaker 3: as far as like you know, I don't know, bench
Speaker 3: preston run or something like that, but the Navy is
Speaker 3: the most technical because of like mechanical skills. Now, even
Speaker 3: about I don't know, fifteen years ago, when I was
Speaker 3: still in we were starting to get you know, younger
Speaker 3: guys that were just about you know, ten years younger
Speaker 3: than me. A lot of them couldn't use a hammer,
Speaker 3: recresse range all right, because they they didn't have a
Speaker 3: dad that did that kind of stuff. He took his
Speaker 3: car to Jiffy lube. He never did a home improvement projects.
Speaker 3: He worked in a cubicle. Or they were raised by
Speaker 3: you know, half the time, all half the time their
Speaker 3: dad who was you know, not that kind of guy.
Speaker 3: So just like the things that you think are stupid
Speaker 3: from growing up on a farm, like you know, identifying
Speaker 3: instead of vice gripts. Imagine having to learn everything about
Speaker 3: every mechanic bowl when you're nineteen twenty years old.
Speaker 1: Oh Okay, Clay, do you have a couple minutes for
Speaker 1: me on the back end?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: And I have to warn you now, we were about
Speaker 1: to have the dumbest conversation in the world because I'm
Speaker 1: going to start my own country. It's going to be
Speaker 1: an island country, and I'm worried about how I'm going
Speaker 1: to put together in the military. Do you have a
Speaker 1: few minutes for that on the back end?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: All right, We are going to come right back with
Speaker 1: the great Clay Martin. He's going to help me build
Speaker 1: a military that can protect my island. Before we get
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Speaker 1: with my friend, Green Beret author Clay Martin Clay I
Speaker 1: already told everybody in the audience. Now I have to
Speaker 1: tell you I'm not kidding. I daydream a lot about
Speaker 1: starting my own country, a mountain island, we'll call it
Speaker 1: ten fifteen million people. And it kept me up last
Speaker 1: night thinking about what my military would be. I'm figuring
Speaker 1: fifty thousand ground troops max. Really everyone else civilian trained,
Speaker 1: you know, marksmanship and school things like that. No women,
Speaker 1: of course, I don't know what to do for a navy.
Speaker 1: Do I even need an air force? How do I
Speaker 1: keep the dirty Chinese from conquering my island?
Speaker 3: Ooh? I think at that level, I think the best
Speaker 3: thing to do is to play left behind. Japanese guys
Speaker 3: don't worry about a navy and don't worry about an
Speaker 3: air force cause they're expensive and easy to break by
Speaker 3: much bigger state actors. Not easy for somebody else to break.
Speaker 3: I would think you take this, Yeah, Singapore model, you
Speaker 3: have some extremely well paid grunts. We're talking like two
Speaker 3: fifty a year. What they are just yeah? Oh man,
Speaker 3: Yeah they're soft. Guys are paid extremely well. Their brother
Speaker 3: paid pre pretty impressively. Use that they get an incredibly
Speaker 3: professional force too. You know, they are getting some of
Speaker 3: like you know, the absolutist there is not just for
Speaker 3: patriotm but for lifestyle. So I would say that we
Speaker 3: go that route, and then we also flip it around.
Speaker 3: Were injection, Green Brain and Jessic Kelly's Army on this
Speaker 3: I the only sports that we allow on that sports
Speaker 3: like you know, marksmanship stuff like like Switzerland does for
Speaker 3: a national three hundred were rifle is actually Switzerland's national sport. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, mma, this kind of thing. And then we've
Speaker 3: got to really make guerrilla force the minute that we needed.
Speaker 3: Somebody tries to invade our mountainous islands.
Speaker 1: All right, that now, see, I love what you're what
Speaker 1: you're thinking there, That's what I was kind of going
Speaker 1: with the you know what, civilian military. Everybody we're shooting everybody.
Speaker 1: Everyone's shooting in school. Maybe we're boxing in school, everybody's wrestling.
Speaker 1: That's just a requirement. We're going to have a society
Speaker 1: full of young men who are ready to rock if
Speaker 1: called upon. But no, no navy. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: put out an aircraft carrier, because like you said, some
Speaker 1: major countries just gonna fire and missile one of the
Speaker 1: side of it. And then I wasted all that money.
Speaker 1: I understand that. But no subs. The mines nothing.
Speaker 3: Mines are good, all right, as we've seen, mines are
Speaker 3: very effective. We just said in the again in the
Speaker 3: Random Bible. They're very cheap, yeah, and they're very effective. Subs.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can build one that's cheap enough
Speaker 3: to avoid detection and justes not get one out of
Speaker 3: What was it that one of the Iranian subs got
Speaker 3: sank by a US Army artillery, which is breaking for everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all things that's.
Speaker 3: Gonna leave a mark on the old pride. See, I'd
Speaker 3: say that we stick to mines and we stick the
Speaker 3: land stuff. If you're gonna do anything, I would expand
Speaker 3: the sports arena into fast boat racing and water skiing,
Speaker 3: and then we build like old school pet boats that
Speaker 3: are basically expendable, uh, basically taking the drone model on this,
Speaker 3: Like we want like fifty to one hundred thousand dollars boats,
Speaker 3: not you know, million dollar.
Speaker 1: Boats, easy to manufacture, easy to maintain. I get it
Speaker 1: all right, Clay. I cannot possibly let you go without asking.
Speaker 1: Those singapore guys making two hundred and fifty g's a year,
Speaker 1: are they studs?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, that was years ago. It was surprised that's
Speaker 3: got up now. They are very impressive, I mean incredibly impressive.
Speaker 3: I actually want to say Jordanian camados made quite a
Speaker 3: bit too. I remember what their exact career is. They're
Speaker 3: very impressive as well. Yeah. Yeah, it turns out that
Speaker 3: if you paid todd. This is an interesting thing. There
Speaker 3: have been studies done on this in the American way.
Speaker 3: Sometimes money isn't incentive and sometimes it's not, but there
Speaker 3: is a sweet spot where you're retaining really good quality
Speaker 3: guys longer than you would have. And it's right around that.
Speaker 1: Is it a huge temptation for you green berets, super
Speaker 1: ninja types to get out and make real cash in
Speaker 1: the private sector, private military contractors, things like that.
Speaker 3: We actually saw this a lot early in the War
Speaker 3: Winner com record job. We're paying that well a lot
Speaker 3: of guys that are the first enlistment. It was the
Speaker 3: choice of do I go make a bunch of money,
Speaker 3: especially for two thousand and three two thousand and four dollars,
Speaker 3: or do I continue down the patriotism route. And there's
Speaker 3: some other subtle differences between it, but there were quite
Speaker 3: a few that went that way. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: the temptation is always, especially when the money was easy.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 1: Clay, my man, what's your latest books?
Speaker 3: You can plug it Barbarian Spirit, and it is about
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Speaker 1: For veterans, Barbarian Spirit. Clay Martin, no support the man.
Speaker 1: Clay appreciates you as always.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, you're probably gonna have to handle some accounting
Speaker 1: for the new island two hundred and fifty gees soldier. What, Chris,
Speaker 1: What am I selling to be able to afford this? Well,
Speaker 1: the island is going to have to have some sort
Speaker 1: of I've actually been thinking about this too. I daydream
Speaker 1: about really stupid things. We are either going to happen
Speaker 1: to have to have an island with some sort of
Speaker 1: natural resource people want. I don't care whether that's oil, lithium,
Speaker 1: whatever a natural resource people want, or we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have an island people want to visit, funded by tourism,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I don't want a bunch
Speaker 1: of people visiting the island. I don't even like when
Speaker 1: family comes to visit. I don't want people visiting the island.
Speaker 1: So what, Chris, Well, I know my compound would be
Speaker 1: separate from the tourists. Chris, but this is not about me.
Speaker 1: This is about making life the way it should be
Speaker 1: in the Republic of Jesse for myself, children and future generations.
Speaker 1: I haven't totally worked out what the industry is going
Speaker 1: to be yet. What Chris mentioned offshore tax haven. One,
Speaker 1: that's the least surprising thing in the world. That's what
Speaker 1: you would mention. Two a kid, you not. That occurred
Speaker 1: to me about two hours ago. I was thinking, we'll
Speaker 1: do what the Swiss do, and we'll do what the
Speaker 1: Caymans do. It's really the ultimate and national security. If
Speaker 1: you think about it, everyone has their money here. If
Speaker 1: everyone has their money there, no one wants to attack
Speaker 1: it because everyone's hiding cash in the Republic of Jesse.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: We still have an hour left. It might get more serious.
Speaker 3: Hang on