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Speaker 1: my co host, my companion, my compadre, professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon, Hello.

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Speaker 1: go through the next six weeks every division. We will

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Speaker 1: here we go. We're gonna talk about the NFC South.

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Speaker 1: Most people would say, I don't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: this division. You got the Falcons who have Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: past twenty one seasons, an NFL team has gone from

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Speaker 1: for this entire division, I just outlined, like what people

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Speaker 2: and Chad really think the team's gonna in this division?

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Speaker 2: Most likely not, But we've seen crazier things, right, Like

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Speaker 2: That was different. That was really just me talking about

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Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're if you're if you're like, you

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Speaker 2: Like they do have guys on this team that can

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Speaker 2: don't think they had the coach lastow. I don't even

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Speaker 2: On totals that low, you have to tick the over

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Speaker 2: That's a game and a half of value right here.

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Speaker 2: Like that, that's a nice wide range of value here.

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Speaker 2: That factors in what we talked about with Sean, the

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Speaker 2: it's a gross one, but divisional odds at this number,

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Speaker 1: How bad was Bryce Young? Last year? You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: Only three quarterbacks in NFL history have had eleven past

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Speaker 2: Now they've added pieces at this team. Again, we're not

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Speaker 1: I think there's three things in play. Number one, how

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Love it Panthers eleven to one. Panther's over

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I thought he wasn't going to come back

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Speaker 2: healthy Kirk, if I got offensive weapons around him, he's

433
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 2: gonna get me to ten wins. Like That's why it's

434
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: hard to bad mouth Kirk, because he has been so

435
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: much better than all these other guys. But we don't

436
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: know we're getting right now. I read the other day

437
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: but a beat right talking about how he's still not

438
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: pushing off that foot, right, he's still doing quick throws.

439
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: He's not really cranking out the hard throws out to

440
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: the outs, right, He's not putting all his weight into

441
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: and throwing deep balls. Yet it's like he's really being

442
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: careful and tender with Aaron Rodgers. I just watched him

443
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: in the Jets practice. He's got no restrictions. He's all

444
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: over the place, moving, throwing on the run, putting all

445
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: his weight onto it, stepping into it. He's got no

446
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: worries right now with that Achilles. So that's that's the

447
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: caution tail here is you are betting a minus twenty

448
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: favorite divisional bet right now on a team with a

449
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: guy that we are so unsure of in a defense

450
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: that I think they're a bottom twenty five, bottom of

451
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: twenty seven, you know, defense, Like they're they're really projected

452
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: low in my model. So offensively, I get why people

453
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: are so enamored with this team. It's just they have,

454
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, a top three running back and Drake Lynn

455
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: on the outside is a great receiver. And Kyle Pitts,

456
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: we know he's a great tight end. He's just never

457
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: had a quarterback get him the ball. And what is

458
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins love. He loves a good tight end. So

459
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: like you should see growth there. But it's like there's

460
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: so many questions here where I mean, we've had guests

461
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: on We're like yeah, the Land is a slam duncan.

462
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: It's like, how can you feel that way about this team?

463
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Like they do have so many questions in a division

464
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: we talk all the time is really wonky. And Chad

465
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: said they have the easiest schedule. They hit the second

466
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: easiest schedule a off football. Last year the Saints had

467
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: number one. Neither of them made the playoffs Tampa, but

468
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: we this is left for dead. They were the team

469
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: that took care of their easy schedule and we were

470
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: able to make the playoff runs. So that's my issue

471
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: with Atlanta is be cautious. People thirty to one super

472
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: Bowl odds. You are crazy if you're betting them thirty

473
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: to one to win Super Bowl. I mean, that's that's insane.

474
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: Like they should be like the Jaguars, they should be

475
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: fifty to one. But maybe they don't have that that

476
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: low of jit just because people are like, well, if

477
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: they won the division, they'll be the fourth seed, they'll

478
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: get a home game. It's just is there a home

479
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: field advantage to Atlanta? I don't know, it's been so

480
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: long since they've had any type of really big fan base.

481
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: I mean even that Matt Ryan run I guess the

482
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: last time, I guess is twenty sixteen. It was when

483
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: the last time they really liked that, So just be

484
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: careful people. They're a team I've taken their under I

485
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: haven't projected nine to eight again half a game, not

486
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: putting that much money on it. But it's like, yeah,

487
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: they to me have too many questions to be a

488
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: team that's minus won twenty for this division and have

489
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: an over of nine and a half. It's just it's

490
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: just too much faith in this team right now, so

491
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: they feel like an easy But at the same time,

492
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: me and Chat won't be shocked if they win this division.

493
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: They clearly have the best offense in this division, so

494
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked by it, but would be shocked if

495
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: their defense were able to get them wins. It just

496
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 2: feels like, once again it's all falling off Kirk Cousins,

497
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: which we've seen before usually doesn't end well for his teams.

498
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Simon mentioned it's thirty to one to win the

499
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, minus one twenty to win the division. Nine

500
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: and a half is the season win total. None of

501
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: that is attractive right there. There's so many question marks

502
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: with this team. It's why. Honestly, it's why Carolina looks

503
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: so much more interesting because you can so clearly see

504
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: the upside in the opportunity. Atlanta, Like, it just feels

505
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: like you're not getting any value anything.

506
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it's all built into the max level.

507
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: It's like it's just been totally bet out, priced out.

508
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Like, It's just it's

509
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: exactly where it should be. They're the most nondescript team

510
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: the whole division, right, Like We've always talked about this,

511
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: like the NFC south of the AFC South, they just

512
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: don't have any sea any like great legacy fandom they do.

513
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: You say this everything I told you the Colts have

514
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: it because of Peyton they do.

515
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like they're all sort of The

516
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: Cults are the only one only because they came from Baltimore, right, So,

517
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: like Globo at least feels familiar. There's nobody outside of

518
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: the Southeast, who's who's wearing a Jaguars logo, logo, who's

519
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: thinking about the Atlanta Falcons, Like nobody gives a shit

520
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: about these teams anywhere.

521
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, they had they had the Mike Vick

522
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: thing was a culture thing, right, I'll never forget you

523
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: saw those SEVENS jerseys everywhere, But that's true. I do

524
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: agree with you that, Like even when we talk about

525
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 2: it sometimes I yawn a little bit where it's like

526
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: the AFC South, there's brutal.

527
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Like Matt Ryan was the perfect quarterback for a team

528
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: like you kind of ever knew his personality. He kind

529
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: of wasn't that flashy. He just ended up having a

530
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: lot of yards in a stadium that always felt really quiet.

531
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: Quiet yardage for quiet fans. That's that's how I think

532
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: about the Atlanta Falcons, sorry to say it, Panthers.

533
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: That was just saying that's with Matt Ryan having Roddy

534
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: White and then Julio Jones, like two.

535
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: Airline of Panthers. Simon, they're getting ready to roar. See

536
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: what I did?

537
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: There? Was all that all right.

538
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers made the playoffs last year. Baker Mayfield,

539
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: he made some money. Eighty to one to win the

540
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year plus three twenty to win the division.

541
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Nine and a half is the win total. They also,

542
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean the theme for this division is easy schedule,

543
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: mainly because they all play each other and none of

544
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: the teams had a very good record, so eleventh, easiest schedule,

545
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: middle of the pack, offensive line at seventeen, middle of

546
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: the pack, defensive line at twenty. Not seeing a lot

547
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: that lights my fire here.

548
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, my biggest issue is they've lost their offensive coordinator

549
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 2: who I thought did so much, I mean as much

550
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: as McVeigh did for you know, bringing back you know,

551
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: a quarterback that we left for dead. Now I'm Baker.

552
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: So now he got paired up with a perfect go

553
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: see with the best weapons he could ask for on

554
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: the outside to that offensive cordinerator has left, so now

555
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: he needs to learn another new playbook, which is gonna

556
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: be a lot to put on Baker. And then you

557
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: add the expectations now because he did get paid. This

558
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: is the team that did win the division last year.

559
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: It's all there like you're we're all betting on a regression, Like,

560
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: how can you not think regressions? Apple? This team? So

561
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: I owned it last year. This was a team that

562
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: I missed on in the preseason. I just I couldn't

563
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: get behind Baker. Plenty of professionals I talked to they

564
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: like this team. They went heavy on them Week one

565
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: against the Minnesota Vikings. I think they were like a

566
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: five point dog. They went out right and me and

567
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: Chat were both, look, any change, how about this Bucks team?

568
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: We still did. It took a little while to come around,

569
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: and by mid season we're like, this is the best

570
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: team in this division. Like this, this does feel like

571
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: there is a separation here between them at Lanta and

572
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: the Saints. And as the season went along, it was

573
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: like big win, I mean, one of the biggest wins

574
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: they had. They went on the road and beat the

575
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: crap out of Green Bay and it was like, wow,

576
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: like this this team can really put up some numbers

577
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: when the offense is clicking. And then even the playoffs,

578
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, say which went about the egos beating themselves,

579
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: they dominated them like they looked like they bullied them

580
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: in that whole game. And even when the Detroit Baker

581
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: just had an off game, right, that was the difference

582
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: in that Detroit game where Baker just didn't have it

583
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: that day. When he doesn't have it, he really does

584
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: not have it. Baker, like that was his whole rub.

585
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Even when he was in Cleve on the Browns, they

586
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: just they complained about him being inconsistent. That's where like

587
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: they went out and made a stupid move to go

588
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: get to Shrona Watson because they just won a top

589
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: level consistency. Where're you know, Baker just had stuff to

590
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: work out, right. That's that's the key with Baker is

591
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: that he's never going to be that number one pick

592
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: where where we just assumed he was gonna be right, Like,

593
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: he was just so incredible come out of college and

594
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: last year we saw a glimpse of it. I mean,

595
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: even me and you talked about it. We're just like

596
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: this guy. I remember we did a film breaking him down.

597
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: He was just getting the crack picked at him. I

598
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: think he had gone zero for five passing and again

599
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking about this oc. He went right back to

600
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: it the next year's they went out there, the coach

601
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: threw three straight passing plays and Baker drove him down

602
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: the field and won the game for them to obviously

603
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: win this division. So I understand why people are kind

604
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: of hesitant to bet this team now because Chad just

605
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: said they had the tenth easy schedule. They still have

606
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: the first. They still have the division winning schedule, right

607
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: they means they have to play the other three divisional winners.

608
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 2: That's that's a big deal, right, Like instead of playing

609
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: you know, the Giants or Washington, they're going to play Dallas,

610
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: and it's like that that does matter when you bring

611
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: into win totals. So I'm a little shocked the books

612
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: got them in nine and a half as well. This

613
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: this team I have grade out of eight wins. So

614
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: technically Stills really love this under but I just I'm

615
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: not loving it. Like there's just I just have such

616
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: faith in Mike Evans and God when it's like even

617
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: with Baker losing to his seat, it's like he has

618
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: two All pros, one Hall of Famer on the other side,

619
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: and Mike Evans, like they're all there, like they can

620
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: somehow make this work and figure it out. My issue

621
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: is I can't see that right now because we're so

622
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: early into this preseason, Like I don't know what their

623
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: offensive style is going to look like. I don't even know,

624
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: like there, I don't know if it was there a

625
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: right tackle or they're left tackle. Somebody's holding out right now.

626
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: If he leaves, I think it was worth right. That's

627
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: that's a huge deal to that team, Like that guy's

628
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: an All Pro at their tackle that that is a

629
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: really big deal. So I hate to do this and say,

630
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: you just don't put any action on this one right now.

631
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't touch the win totally unless you want

632
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: to go towards younger, because that's what I'm going towards.

633
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: And I would not touch their divisional odes.

634
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nine and a half, it feels way too.

635
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: Hot, that's what. It doesn't make sense.

636
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. This should be this should be

637
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: at eight.

638
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: And a half.

639
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, there's other divisions where like look

640
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: at the Colts right Ulster at eight and a half.

641
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Obviously the divisions a little bit harder. You got the Texans, Yeah,

642
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: everyone expects to be better, to be one of the

643
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: best teams in the league. You got the Jags who

644
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: will improve. So you can see why the win total

645
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: is at eight and a half. But the Cults are

646
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: also a better team. The division odds, excuse me, are

647
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: pretty close to the same, and this team's at nine

648
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: and a half. It's because of the schedule and because

649
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: of the division. I don't like the reason they got

650
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: to the wins they got last year because Baker had

651
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: a stretch where he just wasn't thrown any interceptions, and like,

652
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that we can believe in that again,

653
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: right and and seven.

654
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: That's why I can't believe Vegas the saying they're like, yeah,

655
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: we think this is a ten and seven team because

656
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: you look at right now, that's juice to the under

657
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: that and they've just been getting pounded to the under

658
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: by the pros. So that's why I'm I'm right there

659
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: with Chad. It's like, I wanted to load up on this,

660
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna lie. It's it's scared me a

661
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: little bit because they have not moved that number. It's

662
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: been getting hit and they've just held the nine and

663
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: a half.

664
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: The new offensive coordinator Dave Canalis, who was the offensive coordinator,

665
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: he's now the new head coach in Carolina, and the

666
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: new offensive.

667
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: That's again that's another reason we didn't even talked about.

668
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: I really liked the Panthers, Like I just think this

669
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: guy was incredible with Baker last year. So thank you

670
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: for bringing that up.

671
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was great with Baker last year, and we

672
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: should have talked about that with the Panthers. But and

673
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: look that that team, like what they got rid of

674
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: with Frank Reich last year and moving on to a

675
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: new guy with a fresh approach, like it just makes sense.

676
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: The new offense coordinator for the Box is Liam Cohne,

677
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: who has one season as an offensive coordinator. Of course,

678
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: you shake Sean mcvay's hand and you're going to get

679
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: another opportunity to be a big coordinator or head coach.

680
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: And he was a coordinator for the Rams for one

681
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty two. But he's basically spent his

682
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: screener in college, right like he was at Kentucky last year,

683
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: and then like had been assistant coaches in Maine, you Mass,

684
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, everything around, you know, within an hour of

685
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: my house. So a lot of questions here, A lot

686
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: of questions with the Bucks.

687
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: Too many questions to be taken over a nine and

688
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: a half just one of the more bizarre win totals

689
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: of the season.

690
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Too many questions to even talk about them anymore. Let's

691
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: talk about the New Orleans Saints, who we can't stand.

692
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: Talk about a team that has just fallen off the

693
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: face of the earth, that we used to love, that

694
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: had so much personality with Sean Payton. Now you got

695
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen one hundred to one to win the Super Bowl,

696
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: plus three forty to win the Division at least like

697
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: their win total was in line with what we thought

698
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: it should have been last year. They're at seven and

699
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: a half. But this team, like they were bad last year,

700
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: they'd gotten worse. They got the fifth easiest schedule. Not

701
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: sure it matters. Their offensive line rank thirty two, their

702
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: defensive line rank twenty four. I can recite all the

703
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: stats about Dennis Allen. We hate betting on is Allen.

704
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: We hate betting on Derek Carr, especially as a favorite.

705
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: I'll get into it, but do I need to, because

706
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: you're not going to tell me there's opportunity on the

707
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints.

708
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try not to obviously. You know, in this division,

709
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: like Chad just said, anything can happen, right, But all

710
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: science point to this being a dead team. It's just

711
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: a remnants of a great empire that's just slowly burning.

712
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: It's like the end of the Roman Empire. It's just

713
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: there's a couple of beautiful buildings left in there, right there,

714
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 2: a couple of guys left over from it, but overall

715
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: they're all aging out now. And even you know Alive,

716
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: who I think is one of the better receivers in football.

717
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: He doesn't move the needle, Like there's nothing he could

718
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: do to really make you kind of accompass this team.

719
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, someone that's probably one of the last Derek

720
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: Carr believers. They didn't do a single thing in this

721
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: offseason that improved their team substantiously. Like, I just don't

722
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: know what they spend money on. They spend money on

723
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: a tight end quarterback, right, Like they've have all these

724
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: weird signings on this team that just don't really make

725
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: any sense. Why not try to attack improve the offensive line,

726
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: but you know that's such a huge weakness. It's just

727
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what their ownership's doing, and they're kind

728
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: of their hands are tied because they've spent money on

729
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: such weird players and they've built this weird team where

730
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: it's like they're stuck. So you know, I got them

731
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: graded out seven wins, seven and a half. That means

732
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm going towards the ender. That feels right, especially when

733
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about we think the Panthers are going to

734
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: be much better than last year, like that those were

735
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: easy wins last year for some of these teams in

736
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: this division. They're not gonna have the other Panthers, right,

737
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: we think they'll be improved, so the Saints or another

738
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: team that I put a little bit of money on

739
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 2: them for worst record, and you can shop around. I

740
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: saw a couple seventeen to ones eighteen to ones on

741
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: them have the worst record, and it's just because of that.

742
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Where again I hate the bad amount Derek Carr because

743
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: I think he got a raw deal overall in his career,

744
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: but we've seen him just be so inconsistent. Every time

745
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: he has to learn a new offense, he regresses. And

746
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: right now it's looking that way that they're going to

747
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: be installing a whole new offense. And Chad talked about

748
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: it like the biggest the elephant in the room is

749
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: the head coach. And I knew he was bad, right.

750
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: I think historically Evan tells us every week he is

751
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: the worst head coach in the history of NFL against

752
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: the side.

753
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: To give you the stat, he give me the stat

754
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: in his career twenty four and forty six straight up.

755
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: That's worst among all active head coaches. In just five

756
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: years and seventy games of coaching, Allen is twenty two

757
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: games below five hundred. Here is the list of the

758
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: only coaches since two thousand and two realignment to have

759
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: seventy games or less under their belt and be twenty

760
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: two games below five hundred. Dennis Allen, Frick Schrmer, Hugh Jackson,

761
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: Steve Spagnolo, and Gus Bradley. He's a historically bad coach.

762
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: It just is. There's no name, one thing that Dennis

763
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Allen brings to the table as a coach that would

764
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: get fans excited, that would scare teams, like, you know

765
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: you've got something when you're going against Kyle Shanahan, you

766
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: know you got something. You hit Sean mcflay, Sean McVay,

767
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Matt with floor right, Mike Tomlin, you know you got something, all.

768
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Right, hit that horn, baby, let's dance.

769
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, you know you got something. No one's thinking

770
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: I got it out of scheme Dennis Allen.

771
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: And go listen to some of his interviews. He he

772
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: is awful at interviews, and he says things that you

773
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: just you put your hands in your your head in

774
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: your hand, You're just what is this guy even talking about?

775
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: So I'm right there with Chad, and then the big

776
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: sens that got to me was we talked about the

777
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: luck rankings and the luck wins. We kind of narrowed

778
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: in that like Tomlin, people are perceiving him as lucky,

779
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, you kind of can see that

780
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: he's a great coach. That's why he's going over his

781
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: win total and getting more wins than people are projected

782
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 2: because he's Dennis Allen. That team should have had eleven

783
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: wins last year, like wrapped aheads around how crazy that is.

784
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: But it's like this man took two wins away from

785
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 2: this team. That's how bad he was being a head coach.

786
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: And you know, again their owner, there are another team.

787
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: Their ownership to me is to blame for everything that's

788
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: gone wrong with this team. Like they've totally fallen ASoP

789
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 2: at the wheel since they won the Super Bowl years ago.

790
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: They leaned on having a Hall of Fame quarterback and

791
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame head coach, and like I said, this

792
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: is the remnants of it, Like it's just it's a

793
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: dying empire. There's like all it's just tons of trash

794
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: left over, Like there's just nothing left really good here.

795
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: And they feel like a classic team that's gonna be

796
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: rebuilding for five eight years until they find the next

797
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: quarterback and then kind of start building around him. It's

798
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: just it's just really bad right now. So I'm shocked

799
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: to say that, but yeah, you got to go the

800
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: under at seven and a half.

801
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: To bring it full circle. You talked a little bit

802
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: about Derek Carr and his struggles. Derek Carr is five

803
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: hundred against the spread or worse as a favorite in

804
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: seven straight seasons since two thousand seventeen, again from Evan

805
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Abrams forty six sixty two and three against the spread.

806
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: Since his first season in the NFL twenty fourteen, He's

807
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: ranked one hundred and sixty fifth of one hundred and

808
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: sixty six quarterbacks as a favorite. He's ahead of one

809
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: player who is worse as a quarterback one hundred and

810
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: sixty six out of one hundred and sixty six. But

811
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: we just mentioned him in this podcast as David Carr Nope,

812
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: as the definition of uninspiring, high volume yardage playing in

813
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: the in a in a quiet, quiet stadium where nobody cares.

814
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan, Matt Ryan. But this is this is why

815
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: I do defend Derek Carr. Go look at who's been

816
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: his head coach and has had coaches in his career.

817
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: He went from a Gruden to Josh McDaniels to a

818
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: freaking Dennis Allen like talk about just getting screwed in

819
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: your career with bad coaching, like all those guys. I mean,

820
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: you can say, well John Gruden used to be great, yeah,

821
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: twenty years ago. Like, I mean, that guy totally destroyed

822
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: that Oakland Raiders organization on his way out. So that's

823
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: the thing with Derek Carr. It's like, you know, when

824
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: he had Jack del Rio in his early years, he

825
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: was you know, if he didn't break his arm or

826
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: whatever he did break, he almost won an MVP. I mean,

827
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: like he did have flashes and early in his career,

828
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: but those days are long long gone. So I'm not

829
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: gonna let my emotions get the best of me, Chad,

830
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: which is hard to do. But this this is an

831
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: underteam right now, our favorite team by far. I mean

832
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: it's clear to anyone listen to the show, it's gotta

833
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: be the Panthers. It's the most value in the division.

834
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: That to me and Chad, this division seems like it's

835
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: up for grabs rather than minus one twenty, which is

836
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: what the Falcons are viewed as.

837
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: If you're new to this show, every week we will

838
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: ask you to do something so disgusting that defies all

839
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: conventional wisdom. Welcome to it. Hold on to the handrail.

840
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: It's going to be a roller coaster. I promise you

841
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, you're gonna feel so satisfied.

842
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: It's going to be great. Like Simon said, we like

843
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at my notes here. We like the

844
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Panthers over four and a half in this division. We

845
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: like the Panthers for a little taste eleven to one

846
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,239
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847
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,120
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848
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,399
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849
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,719
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