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Speaker 1: to be able to integrate that glucose, now we may

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Speaker 1: have a little bit metabolically resistant, insulin resistant body. So

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Speaker 1: it's your recovery from the meal that matters more than

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, So nineteen minutes is what we should be.

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Speaker 1: That's my personal standard clinical like what most doctors will

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Speaker 1: say is two hours, but I like it to be

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Speaker 1: a little quicker than.

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Speaker 2: That court it. So that's what we should be measuring.

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Speaker 2: That's what we should be looking at.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing is one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: Panda was the leader of that in that study, and

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Speaker 1: what he found is that if you ate all your

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Speaker 1: food in an eight hour eating window leaving sixteen hours

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Speaker 1: for rest and recovery, that you basically became metabolically immune

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Speaker 1: from the harsh metabolic consequences of a processed diet. So

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Speaker 1: what that meant was, I can take all the bad food,

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Speaker 2: of the things that I find fascinating that you talk

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Speaker 2: about and eat like a girl, is you talk about

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Speaker 2: eating for your microbes, not your taste buds. And I

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Speaker 2: find this to be the constant kind of challenge that

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Speaker 2: people in my life have when I'm talking about healthy

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Speaker 2: eating or healthy habits. When it comes to food, we

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Speaker 2: generally eat for our taste buds or eat for our emotions.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me before we talk about eating for your microbes.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about how our patterns of our taste

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Speaker 2: buds have changed over time, because I feel, again, we're

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Speaker 2: not aware of the root of where this started.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the reason I put that as

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Speaker 1: a real foundational rule is again trying to free women

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Speaker 1: and help women have a better relationship with food. And

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Speaker 1: there's so many women that can just find out, like,

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Speaker 1: let's use carbohydrates or sugar or alcohol. They'll say, I

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Speaker 1: just crave it. I can't, I can't uncrave it. I

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Speaker 1: just it's like the tub of ice cream just calls me. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you actually look, there can be microbes and there

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Speaker 1: can be fungus that lives in your gut. That is

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Speaker 1: doing the calling. So those are the ones that are

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Speaker 1: sending a signal to the brain feed me. So we

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Speaker 1: have trillions of bacteria in our gut and they all

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Speaker 1: want to stay alive, and so they send signals to

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Speaker 1: the brain and they tell the brain feed me this,

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Speaker 1: don't feed me that, so that it can stay alive.

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Speaker 1: And then on top of that we add this dopamine

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Speaker 1: response we're getting from the chemical food. We actually not

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Speaker 1: really in control of our food choices when you look

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Speaker 1: through that lens. So let's go to your friends, your

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Speaker 1: friends who are like, I have no will, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how to get over my sugar addiction. Well, the

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Speaker 1: first thing is make sure you're eating chemical free get

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Speaker 1: back to nature's food, because nature didn't create food that

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Speaker 1: made you addicted. So get off those processed foods. And

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Speaker 1: then let's look at feeding your microbes. Let's give your

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Speaker 1: microbes more food. Like what I found in my clinic

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Speaker 1: is the people were eating the same foods over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again, like the same twenty foods. And

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Speaker 1: now when I opened it up their whole food window

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, how about instead of iceberg lettuce every night,

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Speaker 1: what if we try a spring mix with a little

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Speaker 1: parsley and maybe some danelion green so we can support

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Speaker 1: your liver. Like all of a sudden, we just opened

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Speaker 1: up the foods they were eating and the microbes changed.

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Speaker 1: And if you mix that with fasting. The greatest study

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Speaker 1: that I love, one of the greatest that was done

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Speaker 1: on fasting was the every other day diet. And what

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Speaker 1: a researcher did is she took a group of people

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Speaker 1: that were metaball challenged, had food addiction, and had cardiovascular

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Speaker 1: challenges and said, you can eat anything you want one day,

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Speaker 1: and then the next day you don't eat, and the

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Speaker 1: next day eat whatever you want. Next day, don't eat.

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Speaker 1: And what she found was that and then they had

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Speaker 1: to do it over a course of a year. By

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, everybody's metabolic markers improved, everybody

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Speaker 1: lost weight, which is what she thought would happen. But

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Speaker 1: what surprised her was that everybody's choice of food, what

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Speaker 1: they were craving changed. So when I look at those

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Speaker 1: people struggling with like I can't get over my cravings,

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Speaker 1: We've got to change your microbiome and we've got to

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Speaker 1: put you in some fasted states so we can have

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Speaker 1: you can start to have a different experience with these cravings,

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Speaker 1: and it's a combination of those things.

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Speaker 2: How do we detox the bacteria that's calling out for

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Speaker 2: the sugar or calling out for the fats or cobs

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Speaker 2: or whatever it is. How do we how do we

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Speaker 2: detox those We starve them out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you start starving them out.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And that's why. I mean, I've spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: time really asking myself, like, why did Fast Like a

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Speaker 1: Girl connect with people? What was it that was in there?

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Speaker 1: I mean we have acrossed all the audio and the

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Speaker 1: ebook and the hard copy. Over eight hundred thousand versions

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Speaker 1: of Fast Like a Girl was purchased, and I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I think what happened is that people finally

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Speaker 1: were able to take a break from food and they

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Speaker 1: saw the result, and they started to starve out the

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Speaker 1: microbes and they started to go after all these places

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Speaker 1: that the body stored excess and they started to see

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Speaker 1: a result. And I really believe if you want to

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Speaker 1: be healthy, you don't need motivation. You need momentum. And

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Speaker 1: once you have momentum, the motivation comes. So one of

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Speaker 1: the things that we do, and you're looking at these

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Speaker 1: microbes that are controlling your taste buds. Is let's just

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Speaker 1: start tacking on some you know, fasting windows every day

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Speaker 1: where you just give the microbes a break and they

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Speaker 1: will start to die off. And the longer you fast,

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Speaker 1: the more they die off, and your food choices will change,

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Speaker 1: which is what happened in that study.

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Speaker 2: I've experienced that personally. I always talk about how my

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Speaker 2: wife trained me off of sugar because when I met her,

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Speaker 2: I was addicted for sure. Yeah, I was that friend, Yes,

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Speaker 2: And it's I can empathize with it because I know

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Speaker 2: how strong it was for me, because I grew up

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Speaker 2: eating four chocolate products a day, and now I'll have

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Speaker 2: one dessert a week and it's taken me or like

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Speaker 2: one refined sugar product a week, and then I'll only

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Speaker 2: need natural sugars like fruits and things for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the week. And I think it's it's been such

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Speaker 2: a journey for me, But you're so right that it

597
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: had to be starved, had to be substituted, and the eventually,

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Speaker 2: eventually I started realizing how many other things were impacting

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Speaker 2: my desire for sugar. It was a lack of workout,

600
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Speaker 2: it was poor sleep, it was a lack of the

601
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Speaker 2: right vitamins and supplements between. My body had low energy.

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Speaker 2: So it turned to what I thought gave the energy,

603
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: and so you started realizing how interconnected all those things

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Speaker 2: were exactly, rather than actually being about my addiction to sugar.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Like when people are like I like,

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Speaker 1: I've had so many over the years, people like I

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Speaker 1: could never fast, and I'm always like, oh, actually sit

608
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Speaker 1: with me for a hot moment, because there hasn't been

609
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Speaker 1: a person that I haven't been able to train to fast.

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Speaker 1: You just trained your body to eat, and you could

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Speaker 1: look at the same thing with the food you're eating

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Speaker 1: when you're like I can't I can't overcome my sugar addiction. No,

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Speaker 1: you should rephrase that and you should say I've trained

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Speaker 1: my body to crave sugar. I would like to train

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Speaker 1: it to crave something different, and that's your What you

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Speaker 1: did is you found out what we would call a

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Speaker 1: multi therapeutic approach. A lot of different things came into

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Speaker 1: play so that you could literally train your body to

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Speaker 1: crave something different.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and still doing it today. It's a practice that

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Speaker 2: has to continue and last. No, for sure, there's another

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Speaker 2: thing that you brought up which you talk about protein

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Speaker 2: being the hero macro ingredient. Yeah, and right now I

624
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Speaker 2: feel like protein's like the hot it's happened everywhere. It's

625
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: having its moment, for sure. I wanted to ask you

626
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Speaker 2: about you know, no one seems to be getting the

627
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Speaker 2: amount of protein that everyone says you should be getting.

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Speaker 2: So how much protein should we be getting and how

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Speaker 2: do we actually get there?

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Speaker 1: Well, to me, the protein is very much like when

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Speaker 1: we were counting carbs or when we were counting calories,

632
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Speaker 1: like they're fun to do in a moment, and then

633
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Speaker 1: nobody sustains it over time. So I'm in alignment with

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Speaker 1: everybody what everybody's saying, which is one gram of protein

635
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Speaker 1: for every pound of bodyweight, Like, I think that's a

636
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Speaker 1: good measurement for you to look at. I've heard some

637
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Speaker 1: people even say you need, you know, two grams of

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Speaker 1: protein for every pound of body weight if you're trying

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Speaker 1: to to grow muscle. So I think in theory that's great.

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Speaker 1: And then we have things like make sure you have

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Speaker 1: thirty grams of protein per meal so that you can

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Speaker 1: open up amino acid receptor sites to grow muscle. I

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Speaker 1: think that's all great. Now let's talk. Let's talk to

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Speaker 1: the woman in the Midwest. Let's talk to the single

645
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Speaker 1: mom in the Midwest that's working two jobs. And she's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to stay afloat, and now you want

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Speaker 1: me to count how many grams of protein I eat

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Speaker 1: every day so that can be optimally healthy. This is

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Speaker 1: why I put in there. What I want her to

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Speaker 1: know is just know protein's the hero macronutrient, has amino

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Speaker 1: acids in it, and amino acids are going to make

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Speaker 1: you hormones and neurotransmitters. So at every single meal, I

653
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Speaker 1: want you to look at the protein source first and

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Speaker 1: how do you get as much protein in that meal?

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Speaker 1: And then build the carbohydrates around it, and build the

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Speaker 1: vegetables and everything around it. Don't skimp on the pro routine.

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Speaker 1: Every meal has to have a protein that is a

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Speaker 1: more doable like language and for a woman who is

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Speaker 1: or and man who is like so busy, because again

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people are successfully counting this day

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Speaker 1: and in day out unless they're really making a priority.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't. My appetite wouldn't even allow me to

663
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Speaker 2: eat that much protein. Like, I struggle with two things.

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Speaker 2: One is I don't think I can eat that much protein.

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Speaker 2: I've tried yep. And second of all, it's hot, heavy

666
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Speaker 2: on my guy, it's hard on my gut. Like that

667
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Speaker 2: much protein justt my gut com process. Yeah, So how

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Speaker 2: do you over those two things?

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Speaker 1: This actually came up in another interview and I and

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Speaker 1: I explained that this February of this year, I decided

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Speaker 1: to try the protein theory and I was working out

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Speaker 1: with a trainer. I was lifting heavyweights. I'm fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: five as of today. I was fifty four at the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm postmenopausal, and I was like, Okay, let me experiment

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Speaker 1: with this protein thing. In January, I was still with

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Speaker 1: the trainer, I was still tacking on my fasting window,

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Speaker 1: and I was really doing what I could talk about

678
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Speaker 1: in the book, where I would have keto days and

679
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Speaker 1: I would have hormone feasting days, but I wasn't as

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Speaker 1: focused on protein. In January, I lost weight and I

681
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Speaker 1: built muscle. In February, I'm same thing. I just upped

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Speaker 1: my protein to one gram per pounded body weight. By

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Speaker 1: the end of February, I had put on more fat

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Speaker 1: than if I had been doing none of that. And

685
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Speaker 1: I was like, this isn't working for me. This is

686
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Speaker 1: too much protein for my body. And I went back

687
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Speaker 1: to just protein with every meal. Mindy stopped trying to

688
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Speaker 1: get it to a certain amount. That was my experience.

689
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Speaker 1: Now other people will say, oh, I've built so much

690
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Speaker 1: muscle with it. Amazing. But I talk about this in

691
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Speaker 1: the book that we have to go back to end

692
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Speaker 1: of one. En of one means you can hear us

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Speaker 1: talk about protein and now your job is to figure

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Speaker 1: out if it works for you. It works, So it

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Speaker 1: was hard for you. It sounds like it was hard.

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Speaker 2: It's been hard right now. I've been practicing with it

697
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Speaker 2: for like three months maybe, yeah, experimenting.

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Speaker 1: So it was hard for me, whereas other people are like,

699
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Speaker 1: this works perfectly for me, which is great. So I

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Speaker 1: just think protein with every meal. We have to prioritize protein,

701
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Speaker 1: and then you've got to find what pattern of the

702
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Speaker 1: amount is going to be best for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The point is to remember it's the hero ingredient

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Speaker 2: that's right, and and and then build around it.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And don't worry if you're not getting thirty grams. Put

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Speaker 2: me a little forty grams or even depending on your body,

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Speaker 2: with fifty sixty grams. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the zone diet?

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Speaker 2: I do, yes, Yeah, okay, So the very.

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Speaker 1: Serious this was back in when, like when I was

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Speaker 1: in university, so this was back in the nineties. He

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Speaker 1: was the first one to say when you put a

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Speaker 1: meal together, and he used pasta as an example. He

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Speaker 1: was like, the worst thing you could do is have

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Speaker 1: pasta with red sauce and no protein, because that is

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Speaker 1: all glucose and you'll get this incredible glucose spike. But actually,

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Speaker 1: if you put a meatball in there and you drizzle

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Speaker 1: some olive oil on it, now the metabolic cost to

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Speaker 1: you will be much less and you will lose weight.

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Speaker 1: And his whole thing was like, stay in the zone.

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Speaker 1: You got to stay in the zone. So the protein

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Speaker 1: conversation to me, I feel like, needs to evolve to

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Speaker 1: protein at every meal, and let's make sure we're putting

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Speaker 1: it there with fat and some nature some of nature's

726
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Speaker 1: carbs and some fiber, and how you put that meal

727
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Speaker 1: together has a bigger is going to have a bigger

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Speaker 1: effect on you than just the protein amount.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very helpful. Yeah, that's very helpful. And I

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Speaker 2: hope everyone is listening and watching kind of you know,

731
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Speaker 2: eases up on it or finds a way that it

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Speaker 2: works for you. I think that's yeah, yeah, that's the point.

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Speaker 2: When does you know, I think we've been talking a

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Speaker 2: lot about belly fat and fat in general. When does

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Speaker 2: fat make you fat?

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Okay, So toxic fat makes you fat?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Toxic?

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Speaker 1: Dist so our canola oils are cotton seed, corn oils,

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Speaker 1: soybean oils, partially hydrogenated oils, vegetable oils, highly processed sunflower

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Speaker 1: and saft flower oils. Those are the biggies. Those are toxins.

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Speaker 1: So let's go back to what is fat. Fat is

742
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: a storage place for things. Your body doesn't know what

743
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Speaker 1: to do with those oils. Your body doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: to do with so it's putting it around your belly,

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Speaker 1: it's putting it in fat. So stop giving it to

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Speaker 1: your body, because when you give it to your body,

747
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Speaker 1: the body's so smart. It's like, I'm just gonna go

748
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Speaker 1: store it over here. If I come over and I do. Now,

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Speaker 1: Avocado oil, olive oil. Olive oil is like the hero oil.

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Speaker 1: Even some MCT oil or even some of the nut oils,

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Speaker 1: like walnut oil, or seed some seed oils like sesame

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Speaker 1: seed oil your body. He knows what to do with that.

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Speaker 1: It knows how to integrate that. It doesn't cause cellular inflammation,

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Speaker 1: and so it'll kill hunger. It's gonna help nourish your brain.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna stabilize your blood sugar. It's you need these

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Speaker 1: oils to make hormones, so totally different beasts. One makes

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Speaker 1: you fat and the other one actually will make you

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Speaker 1: healthy and can actually help you lose weight because it

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Speaker 1: kills hunger.

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Speaker 2: When we're also talking about a fat inta, is there

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Speaker 2: a time of day that's better for us to be

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Speaker 2: eating fat vests others or is it something that needs

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Speaker 2: to be spread out across the day.

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Speaker 1: I think of fat as like a blood sugar break.

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Speaker 1: So let's use today as an example. It's like three

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Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon, and so I had my first meal.

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Speaker 1: I worked out in the morning. On an empty stomach

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Speaker 1: is just where I decide to go today. I had

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Speaker 1: some collagen powder in my coffee and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of raw cream, and then I went out and worked out,

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Speaker 1: and then I had my first meal around eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that I made sure I

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Speaker 1: did is get a lot of protein and a lot

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Speaker 1: of fat, because I knew I wasn't gonna eat again

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Speaker 1: until tonight, and I was coming here for this podcast.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't want my blood sugar to spike at

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Speaker 1: one or two and then show up in your chair

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Speaker 1: and have brain fog and be unable to focus and

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Speaker 1: my energy low. So I made sure I had extra

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Speaker 1: fat on my breakfast and extra protein so that my

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Speaker 1: glucose stayed very steady. So I like fat when you

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Speaker 1: are not trying to get you're really trying to minimize

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Speaker 1: a glucose spike. So performance is what I just explained.

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Speaker 1: Or I don't want to be hungry in two more hours,

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Speaker 1: I should use some fat. Or I don't want to

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Speaker 1: crave that chocolate at ten o'clock at night, so I

787
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Speaker 1: should have some more fat with my dinner. Because all

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Speaker 1: of that stabilizes blood sugar, and then those cravings and

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Speaker 1: those brain fog in that lack of energy doesn't show up.

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Speaker 2: That's really helpful because I think again, it comes to

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Speaker 2: if we have the time and energy to be that

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Speaker 2: mindful with what we can plan, but especially when it

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Speaker 2: comes to big events, big moments, big meetings, big high

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Speaker 2: performance moments in our life. It seems like that's something

795
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Speaker 2: good to be mindful at those times.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's why I love olive oil. Just

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Speaker 1: start drizzling it on your meal and you will be

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Speaker 1: shocked at how it kills hunger, and you'll be shocked

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Speaker 1: at how you're not hungry for hours afterwards, and your

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Speaker 1: brain power is completely online and focused. It's the easiest

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Speaker 1: thing to add.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Me and my wife were joking about how often

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Speaker 2: what happens is you end up eating smaller meals, but

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Speaker 2: then you end up eating junk after its yeah right,

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Speaker 2: and that happens so often because we're like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: I want to be mindful of my portion size or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then at ten pm you want

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Speaker 2: to dessert. But the idea of sprinkling something simple as

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Speaker 2: olive oil onto your meals, yeah, to help cub a

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Speaker 2: craving night.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, olive oils are high in polyphenols,

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Speaker 1: and polyphenols feed the good microbes. So when you're drizzling

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Speaker 1: olive oil on your meal, you're stabilizing blood sugar and

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Speaker 1: you're feeding the good microbes. So those good microbes are

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Speaker 1: going to keep giving you signals to crave good food,

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Speaker 1: so it really is multifactorial. But let's go back, just

817
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Speaker 1: so we don't confuse people. Let's go back to the

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Speaker 1: calorieane calorie out because some people are like, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: if I put too much olive oil on top of

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Speaker 1: my food, that's a lot of calories. But I'm back

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Speaker 1: at does the caloriane calorie out is it working for you?

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Speaker 1: I'm more interested in you feeding your body through the

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Speaker 1: lens of metabolic health so that your blood sugar can

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Speaker 1: be stable. I'm interested in food being a performance enhancer

825
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: for you. And I care a lot about your microbes

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Speaker 1: because not only do they control your cravings, but they

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Speaker 1: control your immune system. Your neurotransmit is like, they are

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Speaker 1: the thing that is driving your health if you actually

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Speaker 1: look into it. So olive oil, you drizzled it on

830
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Speaker 1: your meal and like magic happened in your body.

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Speaker 2: And eat like a girl. Your new book, you talk

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Speaker 2: about how we need to eat to make hormones, especially

833
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Speaker 2: for women, woke me through the importance of that because

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Speaker 2: I don't think i'd ever heard that before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this came kind of out of my frustration

836
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Speaker 1: with women feeling like if I have low hormones, then

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Speaker 1: I just need to take an exogenous form of hormone

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Speaker 1: and put it into my body. And what I wanted women,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm just wanted to say,

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Speaker 1: can we have a conversation first before you start to

841
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: feel like the challenge with your female body is you

842
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Speaker 1: don't have enough hormones? Can we look at your food

843
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: behaviors and ask ourselves are you getting enough nutrients in

844
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Speaker 1: to be able to act actually make hormones. So I

845
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Speaker 1: look at it like, if you were making bread, you

846
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: have to have a certain amount of ingredients. You've got

847
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: to have flour, you probably have to have yeast, you

848
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: have to have some baking soda, Like there are certain

849
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: ingredients that need to go into bread in order for

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Speaker 1: it to rise and for it to be able to

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Speaker 1: be bread. Same thing with hormones. And what I did

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00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: in the book is I spent a lot of time researching, well,

853
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: what are those nutrients that we need? And I came

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00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: up with what I call the key twenty four. You

855
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: need these twenty four nutrients every single day to be

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Speaker 1: able to even make a hormone. And when you look

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Speaker 1: at those twenty four ingredients, like nine of them are

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Speaker 1: amino acids, which takes us back to protein, and you

859
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: got proteins where you're getting amino acids from. And one

860
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: of the major one is omega three fatty acids, which

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00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: takes us back to olive oil. So if I'm a

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00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: woman who is like, let's just talk about I'm sure

863
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: this is going to come up because it keeps coming up.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the weight loss drugs. Let's say I'm

865
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: taking a shot that kills my hunger, so I'm not

866
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: eating very much and I'm losing weight. But if I'm

867
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: not getting food in with enough nutrients into my body,

868
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't have enough of these vitamins and minerals and

869
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: fatty acids and amino acids to make hormones. So down

870
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: the road, something's going to give from my lack of

871
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: intention around a diverse meal. So that's why I put

872
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: it in there, was like, can we start looking at

873
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: food as hormonal medicine. Food isn't just pleasure, Food isn't

874
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: just you know, energy. Food is actually feeding these hormones.

875
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: But you've got to get a good variety of food

876
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: in order to do that.

877
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: Is there any indication to women's health at age twenty thirty,

878
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: forty fifty, where different hormones and different foods are more

879
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: of a priority in the different decades.

880
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well in the younger years. I mean again, what

881
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about is gold and Fast Like a Girl

882
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: introduced something I called the fasting cycle, which is where

883
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: the front half of your cycle you're going to keep

884
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: your glucose low, and then the back half of your

885
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: cycle you want to bring your glucose up. So and

886
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: I showed that through the lens of fasting in this book.

887
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm really in Eat Like a Girl. I really want

888
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: women to see front half of your cycle. You're really

889
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: catering to estrogen, and estrogen likes glucose to be low.

890
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: So the keto diet, the low carb diets that you

891
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: were on, they'll work in that front half of the cycle.

892
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: Just again, keep diversifying your food choices, whereas the back

893
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: half of your cycle progesterones showing up, and progesterone actually

894
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: wants you to keep glucose higher. This is why every

895
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: single woman craves carbohydrates or chocolate or something sugary the

896
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: week before her period, because her body is so intelligent.

897
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: It's like I need you to bring up glucose so

898
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: I can make progesterone so that the uterine lining can

899
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: shed and you can have a cycle. So for those

900
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: women twenty and thirty, this is the message they need

901
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: to know. Front half of the cycle, lower car, back

902
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: half of the cycle, higher carb. That's as simple as

903
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: I can make it. It's more detailed in the book.

904
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Now let's go into perimenopause and menopause, estrogen goes is

905
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: going away, and when estrogen goes away, that woman becomes

906
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: more insulin resistant. So I can't tell you how many

907
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: women will tell me I haven't done anything. I'm forty

908
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: three years old, I haven't done anything different, and I

909
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: am gaining weight. That's because you're losing estradel and estradial

910
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: kept you insulin sensitive, and so now you have to

911
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: find other ways to keep yourself insulin sensitive. And fasting

912
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: is one of the best ways that I know to

913
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 1: keep yourself insulin sensitive. And then you're probably gonna need

914
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: again as you move through perimenopause. You're going to need

915
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: a little lower carbohydrate diet mixed with splashes of a

916
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: higher carbiohydrate diet. So this is why in the book.

917
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's your I call it. Ketobiotic is when

918
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: we want to go lower carb but keep enough fiber

919
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: in there. And then hormone feasting is when we want

920
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: to go higher carbs so we can cater to progesterone.

921
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: It sounds confusing, no, no, not to well, yeah, but

922
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: it's think of it like gas pedal break. Like, you know,

923
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: there's a rhythm to a female body, so you're just

924
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: going to understand the rhythm of your hormones so you

925
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: can match the foods and the fast according to that.

926
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: What are our greatest on misunderstandings of the female body

927
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: and in what decades are we so confused about or

928
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: uneducated about that you'd like to point out, Oh.

929
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking me. That the female body is

930
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: highly comp it is highly rhythmic, so it's constantly having

931
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: ups and downs to it. If you look at our hormones,

932
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: there is we are meant to have moments of where

933
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: we're in complete joy, and then there are moments that

934
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: we're crying, and there are moments that we were rushing

935
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: to the gym and we're so excited to go work out,

936
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: and then there's other moments that we can't get off

937
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: the couch. And that's all because you live in a

938
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: female body that is driven by different hormones. So the

939
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: first thing I want women to know is your hormonal

940
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: system makes you highly complex, and a male's body isn't

941
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: that complex. This is the way I've been saying it,

942
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: And I always say, like, you know, no offense to men,

943
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: but like you guys are like a ukulele and we're

944
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: like a violin. Like it's just we are a very

945
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: Our body is a very sophisticated instrument, and because of

946
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: our sex hormones were we require more rest and recovery.

947
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: We don't do as well with toxicity. When we become

948
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: insulin resistant, we start to become infertile, and we start

949
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: to get things like PCOS polycystic ovarian syndrome, and our

950
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: menopause symptoms will be off the chart like crazy. So

951
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen so much to men. So we're just

952
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: a more sophisticated body we're living in.

953
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: What are some of the things you would encourage people

954
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: to be mindful of at different stages, to spot those

955
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: signs early and to respond, because it seems like we

956
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: don't really talk about the difference that clearly, and we

957
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: expect the same things in the same eras or decades

958
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: of life.

959
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the thing that we

960
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: have to look at is that lifestyle impacts both men

961
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: and women, but for women really, we've got to dial

962
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: in a lifestyle for women that like, go to lifestyle first,

963
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: before you go to the anti depart before you go

964
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: to the hormone replacement, before you go to the weight

965
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: loss drug. Ask yourself, have I dialed in my lifestyle?

966
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: And what that means is there needs to be a

967
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: rhythm of where I'm maybe working out a lot, and

968
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: then I'm recovering, I'm maybe going low carb, and then

969
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm feasting on healthy foods. So we need to have

970
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: a rhythmic lifestyle. And that's like new conversation that's just

971
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: coming up in the last couple of years. Whereas men

972
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that as much. You guys

973
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: are a lot more resilient. You have one hormone to

974
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: think about, which is testosterone. Have you operate off a

975
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: twenty four hour cycle. We operate off a twenty eight

976
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: day cycle, So we're just a lot more complicated. But

977
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: that's why lifestyle is so important for women, and this

978
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: is like, this is like my rally cry, like, oh

979
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: my gosh, when we look at autoimmune problems, when we

980
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: look at the menopause symptoms, like please, can we have

981
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: a conversation about lifestyle as being the first line of

982
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: treatment for women before we start medicating the shit out

983
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: of us?

984
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: No? I love the rady cry, and I think it's

985
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: so important. I'm so glad that you're sharing it so

986
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: passionately here because I couldn't agree with you more. I've

987
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: heard so many women recently, when I've been at events

988
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: or listening to panels or e'veneering, so many women talk

989
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: about perimenopause menopause. And what I found so fascinating when

990
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: I was listening was that I was obviously I was like, okay,

991
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: I knew I had no clue, but a lot of

992
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 2: the women in the audience were like, oh my gosh,

993
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: we didn't know either what we were going through. And

994
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: so I think there's such a need for it because

995
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: there seems to be the misinformation, or to be honest,

996
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: no information that's right, and so we're just turning towards pharmaceuticals, right.

997
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: So on that conversation when I first started teaching this

998
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: cycling of fasting and food. On my YouTube channel, nobody

999
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: talked about menopause, and then I started to getting people

1000
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: pouring in and asking me like, well, how do I

1001
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: do this for perimenopause and menopause. At that time, I

1002
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: was like mid forties, and so I just shared, Hey,

1003
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: here's what I'm doing. I actually put it in a book.

1004
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: It's called The Menopause Reset. I was like, here are

1005
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: the lifestyle changes that I've made, and they've worked really

1006
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: well for me during perimenopause. Okay, fast forward to today.

1007
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: We've gone from a cultural hush around menopause where we're like, oh,

1008
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: she's a little irritable, let's not like poke the bear

1009
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: and get her all upset because she might be menopausal,

1010
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: but we don't want to say that to our face,

1011
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: to cultural chaos where women are like, finally, like the

1012
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: conversation of menopause is emerging, and that part is amazing.

1013
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Like there's been a lot of authors, there's been a

1014
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: lot of influencers, there's a lot of people that are

1015
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: cracking that conversation open, which is so good. But what

1016
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: we have turned the conversation to now is you are

1017
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: are suffering in the perimenopausal experience, and so you need

1018
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: to think about hormone replacement therapy. I'm not opposed to that,

1019
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: but every woman who goes on hormone replacement therapy has

1020
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: a different path to it. And that's because alongside hormone replacement,

1021
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: whether it's HRT direct or bioidenticals, needs to be a

1022
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: lifestyle change. And the diet you had at thirty five

1023
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: doesn't work for you at forty five. And the stress

1024
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: load you were able to do or handle a thirty five,

1025
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna need some breaks and some new tools at

1026
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: forty five. So there's a lifestyle that I'm just still

1027
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: trying to bring in. Like, Hello, the answers isn't in

1028
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: the patch. The answer is not in the pill. Those

1029
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: are good support systems, but let's make lifestyle the change

1030
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: that happens once you go into those perimenopausal years.

1031
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: What would you say the top three life stars that

1032
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: changed everything for you or what positive for you?

1033
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? So in the menopauseresaid, I wrote five, I started fasting.

1034
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: That was a big one. I started varying my foods,

1035
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: which is what I teach and eat like a girl.

1036
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: I went low carb, high carb, I started feeding my microbes,

1037
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: so how do I support Because the microbes break down estrogen.

1038
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: So I wanted to be able to increase the diversity

1039
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: of my microbes so they could break down estrogen. The

1040
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: last estrogen I was getting. I did a massive detox.

1041
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: I detoxed my whole house. I started detoxing myself throughout

1042
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: my whole forties. Detox became my obsession. And then the

1043
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: last one is something called the rushing woman syndrome, which

1044
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: was actually coined by a woman doctor Libby Weaver, who

1045
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: showed biologically why women that are constantly in a state

1046
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: of stress end up having hormonal problems. So I started

1047
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: saying no to more things. I'm a competitive athlete. I

1048
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: was a competitive tennis player in my early twenties, and

1049
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: I started learning how to do more yoga. I started

1050
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: learning how to walk more. I started getting out of

1051
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: that mentality of I've got to push my body, and

1052
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: so I just started looking at how I could recover

1053
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And those were the five I changed.

1054
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: And it was like gold.

1055
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: It's so refreshing to hear that they're all interconnected as well,

1056
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 2: with eat like a girl and fast like a girl,

1057
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: and it seems that it seems that what we need

1058
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: to do is simple, but it's so hard. Yeah, because

1059
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: of our wiring, because of society's expectations, because of our

1060
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: maybe our own pressure on ourselves. What gave you the

1061
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: permission to just say, you know what, I'm I'm going

1062
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: to unsubscribe from all of this and I'm going to

1063
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: find a way. What was that for you? Because I

1064
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: feel people are really looking for that breakthrough and you said,

1065
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: it's not motivation, it's momentum. But it's almost like, how

1066
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: do you give that stone or that rock a push

1067
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: down the hill so that he gains momentum.

1068
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: The best door in is fasting. This is why I

1069
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: started with fast like a girl Like that is the quicket.

1070
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: If you want a totally different experience with your body,

1071
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: learn how to create an eating window and a fasting window.

1072
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because my practice was built by what

1073
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I call the Mama Bears. They were like these women

1074
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: who would bring their families to me and who would

1075
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Speaker 1: come in to learn about detox and hormones and food

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Speaker 1: education and lifestyle. My clinic was built was like a

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Speaker 1: lifestyle clinic, teaching people how to live a lifestyle to

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Speaker 1: build health, And it was the Mama Bears that I

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00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: got to experiment on, you know, I put that in like,

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00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, a loving way. I got to take these

1081
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: principles that I was studying and using on myself and

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00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: try it on them. And I remember what with weight loss.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that blew me away is once

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00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: I started teaching women how to fast, maybe two weeks

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00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: would go by and I didn't see them, and they'd

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: walk into my clinic and it looked like a fat

1087
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: coat had been taken off of them in two weeks.

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my God, Like fasting got

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00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: you that in two weeks. So I think this is

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Speaker 1: why I'm a I'm like the evangelist for fasting.

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00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: Is there anyone who should never fast or shouldn't?

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00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Great question? I always say, if you're pregnant or nursing,

1093
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: it's a no, that's not your tool. So and I

1094
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: write about that in both books. If you have an

1095
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: eating disorder, you need to be working with somebody who

1096
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: can work alongside you, because there's little tricks that you

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: can do to to line yourself up for that. Certain

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: cancers don't do well with fasting, and certain cancers do

1099
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: incredibly well with fasting. So going to a specialist that

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00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: knows that outside of that, everybody else fast can fast.

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: The one I just want to point out, the person

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00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: I didn't didn't point out who couldn't fast is the diabetic.

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: This is the one that shocks everybody is the type

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01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: one and type two diabetic when done right and done

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: with doctor supervision, actually does really well with fast Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, that is surprising, right, You wouln't expect that. No,

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01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: there's a trend right now with women eating meat bowls

1108
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: in order to lose weight. What's your take on that.

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Speaker 1: You that all they're eating, well.

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01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: At least a big, a big part of it.

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean they're just trying to dose

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: up protein. So what I would say is, if you're

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01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: going to dose up protein, make sure it's a clean protein.

1114
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: So what would you define as, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like hormone free, antibiotic, not pumped with antibiotics, not pumped

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01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: with hormones. Grass fed if you're going beef, and you

1117
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: really want grass fed because it has higher omega three,

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: so it needs to be a clean source of protein.

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Speaker 1: I'm also a real fan for women, specifically of fiber

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Speaker 1: because fiber feeds those microbes that break hormones down. So

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Speaker 1: if you're only going meat, you're missing out on the

1122
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: vegetables we need more fiber. But from a metabolic standpoint,

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Speaker 1: from blood sugar standpoint, meatballs if you didn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of fillers and stuff and them could be really good.

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Speaker 1: Are they losing weight?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, meat bowls. Sorry not my accent, Yeah, meat balls, yeah,

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Speaker 2: my meat bowls.

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Speaker 1: Okay, meat bowls bowls?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like b o W sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? So what what kind of meat? Is it?

1131
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Speaker 1: A rite and meat in there?

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Speaker 2: I believe, So.

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Speaker 1: It's basically just that, just like our ground beef, essentially good,

1134
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Speaker 1: but it's like the main thing that they're eating, like lunch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: are they eating any fiber at all? Or they're just

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Speaker 1: eating that? It's like very minimal like carb. Okay, okay,

1137
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Speaker 1: this is interesting, and let's dive into the mechanics on.

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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: So protein stabilizes your blood sugar. So if I'm only

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: eating a meat bowl all day long, then what ends

1140
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: up happening is I'm really not those blood sugar spikes

1141
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: we talked about, I'm not getting very many of them.

1142
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: So that's good if you don't have a lot of

1143
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: blood sugar spikes, You're not asking your body to make

1144
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: a ton of insulin. So from a metabolic standpoint, that

1145
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: is really fascinating. From a gut microbiome standpoint, this is

1146
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: really controversial and I still stay by this to this day.

1147
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: Is the carnivore diet. The carnivore diet kind of had

1148
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: its moment and then people are like, this is crazy

1149
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: and it went away. Well, what we saw in my

1150
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: community and in my clinic and in the research that

1151
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: I dove into, is that when all you do is

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: eat meat, you actually can stimulate a immune cell in

1153
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: your gut called your te regulatory cells, and your T

1154
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: regulatory cells make sure that your immune system isn't too

1155
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: and your immune system isn't too high. So in my clinic,

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Speaker 1: I would do something called carnivore fasting, which would be

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: like a therapeutic process for a patient who had an

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Speaker 1: autoimmune condition. For like two to three weeks, they would

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Speaker 1: just eat meat and they would fast about seventeen hours

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Speaker 1: every day and the rest of the time all they

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Speaker 1: did is eat meat. And what I was trying to

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: do is calm the immune system down and help them

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Speaker 1: drop weight because their spike they weren't spiking their glucose.

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Speaker 1: It worked. It absolutely worked, but especially for things like

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Speaker 1: cibo small intestinal bacteria overgrowth, like it was phenomenal, and

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Speaker 1: so you got the benefit of fasting and you got

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Speaker 1: the benefit of meat. It's just not something you sustain.

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Speaker 1: I would do it two to three weeks to balance

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Speaker 1: the immune system with my autoimmune patients, and then we

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Speaker 1: would go back into fiber because we need that fiber

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Speaker 1: to be able to break those hormones down. So it

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Speaker 1: became a therapeutic tool.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Thank you so much. Yeah. I love what you

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Speaker 2: do by actually explaining what is going on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: because to me, that's the part which a makes it

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Speaker 2: click and then it's not just to hack. Yeah, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I actually understand how my body's working and why it's

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Speaker 2: doing what it's doing. Yeah, and therefore now when I'm

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Speaker 2: having that feeling or that experience with that craving, I

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01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: can actually talk myself through it. That's that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so here's the this is like like

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Speaker 1: another big pet peeve and rally cry for me, is

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Speaker 1: that you should learn how to do health from your

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Speaker 1: health professionals, whether it's your doctor, your fitness trainer, your

1185
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: your favorite health influencer. But if we go into this

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01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: place where we're like eat this, don't eat that, but

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Speaker 1: we don't know why, we're never empowered. Doctor means to teach. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, a rally cried all the doctors out there,

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Speaker 1: are you teaching your patients or you just prescribing your patient?

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Speaker 1: To your patients, you have to teach to them how

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01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: the body works and why if prescription your path, why

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01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: prescriptions work, why food works it? Because now you have

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Speaker 1: an empowered human and big farm is not going to

1194
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: like us empowered, and big food doesn't like us empowered.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we should create, is empowered humans. The

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Speaker 1: only way we can do that is by teaching people

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Speaker 1: how their body works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for people who talking about, you know, giving making

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Speaker 2: people feel empowered. For people who don't have access to

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Speaker 2: expensive technology and want to know their muscle fat percentage,

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: body fat percentage, et cetera, Like, how how do they

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Speaker 2: get that information in a way that's affordable and accessible

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Speaker 2: because it seems that so much of that data and

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Speaker 2: that insight you need to be empowered, yeah, is expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, all the wearables are really exciting, right, Now,

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Speaker 1: the cgms and all that, the continuous glue postmonitors really exciting,

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01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: but they are expensive. So in the book, I put

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: a list of symptoms you would experience if you nailed

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: your meal, if you got your meal right, if your

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Speaker 1: lifestyle was working for you. This are some of the symptoms,

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01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: and I'll share with you some of them. After you

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01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: eat a meal, you should be energized. You shouldn't be sleepy.

1213
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: If you're sleepy, we got to go back and look

1214
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: at the makeup of that meal. After a meal, you

1215
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: should have better brain clarity. You should feel uplifted. It

1216
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: should it should be like something that puts you into

1217
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: a enhanced performance state. You also, it's not normal to

1218
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: be hungry every two to three hours, so those things

1219
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: become really important. The other piece is that you should

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Speaker 1: be able to control your cravings. You should be able

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01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I like I'll give use me

1222
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: as an example. I used to have a sugar addiction too,

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Speaker 1: and I had a moment where when in the height

1224
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Speaker 1: of my sugar addiction, where if I looked at a

1225
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: piece of sugar, I couldn't control myself. Yeah yeah, And

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Speaker 1: it was like, I know, I'm not supposed to eat that,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to eat it anyways. Once I started

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Speaker 1: doing fasting and eating, doing fasting and eating windows like that,

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Speaker 1: craving went away. So I now have a better relationship

1230
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Speaker 1: to food. I don't feel like I'm eating food because

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: I can't control myself. So there are symptoms we can

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Speaker 1: look at, and all the biome metric wearables, they're great.

1233
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Speaker 1: But I want to help the woman in the South,

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01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: you know that's working two jobs. The story I tell

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Speaker 1: a lot is that during the pandemic, I had a

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Speaker 1: high school principal in South Carolina reach out to me.

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Speaker 1: She was watching my YouTube channel, and she said, my

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01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: high school teachers are about to come back to school

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Speaker 1: and they're super scared about their immune system and COVID,

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Speaker 1: and so can you give us some ideas on how

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Speaker 1: we can keep our immune system high. Well, I come

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Speaker 1: from a family of teachers, and I was like, oh, yeah,

1243
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: can I give back to the teachers and teach them?

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Speaker 1: This is really exciting. So I pop on this call

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Speaker 1: with about one hundred teachers at this high school and

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01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: I go into all you should take this supplement, and

1247
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: you should eat this oil, and you should do all

1248
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: these things. And I get to the end of the

1249
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: presentation it was all done on zoom, and this really

1250
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: brave man raises his hand and he's like, I hear

1251
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But if I'm at the supermarket and

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01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: I'm looking at nut butters, the nut butter with the

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: right oil in it is eight dollars more than the

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 1: one with the wrong oil. I don't have that eight dollars.

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Speaker 1: And then another woman raised her hand and said, I'm

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Speaker 1: up at four in the morning, and I drive to

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Speaker 1: get my classroom set up. At five, I don't take

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01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: a lunch break, and by three point thirty four, I'm

1259
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: driving home exhausted, and the only place I want to

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Speaker 1: go is through the drive through at fast food. Okay,

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: we will never ever get our country healthy until we

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: help those people because they're on a limited income and

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: they are trying to be healthy, but everything in front

1264
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 1: of them is leading them towards chronic disease. This is

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Speaker 1: why PEP fasting became my tool, because everybody can afford it,

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01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: and everybody, even the busiest person, can do it, and

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Speaker 1: people it works for the majority of people, and then

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Speaker 1: they have that momentum. So that's what you know. The

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Speaker 1: fast food lady. Okay, so let's eat your fast food

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01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: in a compressed eating window. The nut butter guy, it

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01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well maybe nut butter isn't your go to. Like,

1272
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Speaker 1: let's figure out how you can look at maybe some

1273
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: getting some oils from food that you're getting, upping your

1274
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: Omega three and other oils, like we just found lateral changes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you how do you train someone to

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: not eat for a period of time? Because I think

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Speaker 2: we've talked about foster, but actually it's really hard when

1278
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: someone has to do it. How do you how did

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: someone train themselves to do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you start by pushing your breakfast. That's what

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01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: I typically do. You can push your dinner up if

1282
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: you want, but most people I start with breakfast. So

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: I tell people push your breakfast back an hour. Most

1284
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: people will say, well, can I have my coffee? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can have your coffee, but not your creamer. Like

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: if you're putting like some kind of sugar creamer in there,

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: or you're putting oat milk or almond milk in there,

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: those tend to spike your blood sugar a little bit

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: too high. So cow's dairy, goat's dairy. Does a little

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: bit better. So you just make sure black have your

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01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: coffee black. Push your breakfast back an hour is going

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01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. That's the first thing. It's like, this

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01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: is that moment you're gonna be like, why did I

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: listen to Jay Shetty's podcast where that crazy lady came

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: on and told me to push my breakfast back an hour? Now,

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Speaker 1: all I want to do is yell and scream because

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01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm angry. I'm angry. But if they say if they

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Speaker 1: stay with that the next day and then the next day,

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Speaker 1: by the third or fourth day, that hour is going

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01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: to feel like nothing. So when it starts to get easy,

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01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: now you're going to push it back another hour. So

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: now you're two hours back, and then maybe a couple

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: you go a couple of days with that, and then

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: you're going to push it back another hour. And everybody

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: that I've done with this within two weeks, they are

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: effortlessly fasting somewhere between thirteen to fifteen hours. You're just

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01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: taking all that food and you're just compressing it into

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01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: an eating window, but you're gently moving your body into

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: that place. You're not. I've had people just out of

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01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: nowhere going three day water fast, but that's a lot

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01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: more suffering involved.

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Speaker 2: Ye, you do it? Yeah? Is there anyone who should

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: eat as soon as they wake up?

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of theories on this, Like Sachin Panda,

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: who is the premiere, you know, researcher on circadian rhythm.

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: He came on my podcast and he likes that you

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: wait an hour after you wake up if you're going

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: to try to get into the proper circadian rhythm, meaning

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: your melotonin and your cortisolar are being secreted at the

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: right moment, So he would prefer that you would wait

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: an hour. Doctor Stacy Simms, who is an expert and

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01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: one of the leading experts in exercise and menopause, came

1323
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: on my podcast and she strongly feels you need some

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01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: kind of nutrients coming in the minute you wake up,

1325
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: the first half hour you wake up to trigger the

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Speaker 1: hypothalmis to start hormonal production. When I broke that down

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01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: with her, she's also plant based. When I broke that

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: down with her, she said, I put collagen powder in

1329
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: my coffee every morning and a splash of vegan yeah. Vegan, yeah,

1330
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 1: So she probably uses a vegan vegan one or maybe

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01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: a marine one. I didn't ask her through the vegan

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01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: lens if she did if she did fish, and then

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01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: she does MCT oil, and then she does a plant

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: based cream and she puts she does like a loaded coffee,

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: and that some mornings, that's her how she triggers this hypothalmus.

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Speaker 1: So I tell you all that to say that here

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: we have two leading experts. One says way to half hour,

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01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: the other one says, you need some nutrients in very quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's got to be their own end of one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely it works for you. Yeah, It's hard

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01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: to know. And I think that's why so much of

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01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: this is also being able to listen to our bodies

1343
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: and our minds, because I think so much of our

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: food habits are driven by our minds and not our bodies.

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01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: We mentally crave something, emotionally crave something, Yeah, whereas when

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01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: you actually listen to your body kind of like what

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: I was saying to you earlier that when I'm listening

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: to my body, I'm like, this amount of protein just

1350
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 2: doesn't feel right. Yeah, And if I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: On that, I just want to point out because again

1352
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be the voice of women's empowerment.

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,520
Speaker 1: What I'm discovering in women is we are massively, massively

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: disconnected from our bodies.

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: So we look at Instagram, we look at magazines, and

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: we're like, I want to look a certain way, and

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01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: I will manipulate my body to look that way. We

1359
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: are not clued into the rhythms and cycles of our body,

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: and often.

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Speaker 2: You could end up looking that way. But because the

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: internal setup isn't right like we often think it's also, oh,

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: I don't have self worth or self esteem, but it's

1364
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: completely chemical, that's right, right, Like it's just a hormonal imbalance.

1365
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 2: It's not even it's not this mental idea that oh

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't believe in myself or I love myself. It's like, well,

1367
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: of course, if I've been shifting my body and die

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01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: and everything to look this certain way, it could be

1369
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,520
Speaker 2: that my hormones and nutrients and everything are so imbalanced

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Speaker 2: that I can't sustain a healthy mood.

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Something I've deeply thought about is that when we

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01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: look at the woman who's size two, or the woman

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: who's a size for or is I zero, Like, we

1374
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: look at that we say, that's what I'm supposed to

1375
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: look like. Because the magazine's instagram, everybody says I should

1376
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: look like that. But actually, if you look at what

1377
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: estrogen and does to the female body, is it makes

1378
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: us it's what I call a little more padded. It

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01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: gives us a little more of a cushion of fat

1380
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: on us, And that might be what's normal for us.

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: We just have this skewed view based off of what

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: we're seeing on social media that we're supposed to look

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01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: that way. But if if you ever stopped for the

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01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: women listening and asked yourself, is that the healthy way?

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that came out of

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,919
Speaker 1: Fast Like a Girl that really disturbed me and motivated

1387
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: me to write Eat like a Girl was how many

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01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: twenty year olds and thirty year olds don't have a

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: menstrual cycle and they don't have a menstrual cycle because

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01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: they've been manipulating their diet. Their diets too low calorie,

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: their weight is too low because they're trying to look

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: a certain way that the culture says this is beautiful

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01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: and when you're beautiful, you're worthy. But actually, is it

1394
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: possible that the female body is meant to have more

1395
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: fat on it and trying to be the skinniest version

1396
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: of you is actually making you sick and destroying your hormones.

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01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: And I think it would be really interesting if we

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: had better conversations around that.

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Speaker 2: So what do they do in that scenario when they've

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01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: ended up creating that situation with themselves.

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01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: Well, the first thing is we're back at the calories.

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: Is let's make sure you're eating enough calories. For the thyroid,

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: you have to have twelve hundred calories a day consistently.

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01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: So if you're eating nine hundred, eight hundred calories a day,

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01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: you're causing thyroid challenges. And that could be a hyperactive thyroid.

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01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: That could be I mean, so you could end up

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: with a faster metabolism which would eventually lead to a

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: hypothyroid situation. So let's get the calorie in that person

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01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: who's in deprivation. That would be the one spot I

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: would say, let's make sure we're above twelve hundred, So

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Speaker 1: that would be the first thing. The second thing is

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting, I don't even for you

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01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: and men in general, is like when we eat and

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01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: we're hungry, do we ask ourselves like am I hungry

1415
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: or am I bored? Am I hungry or am I

1416
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: sad am I hungry? Or do I need energy? Like

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,440
Speaker 1: make sure we're seeing that the food and the emotional response,

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01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: like we're pulling those apart. So I think, I think

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01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: that's a really important one, because people eat and don't

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01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: eat for a lot of different reasons. And then that

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: leads to the last thing with this person who might

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: be a little bit thin is I think for a

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: lot of women, it's control, Like if I can control

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01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: my body a certain way, then you know my life

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: will be in control. And as you know, controls an illusion,

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01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: and maybe there's something else you can control. This is

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Speaker 1: why I like the continuous glucose monitor. Control your blood

1428
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: sugar and then you'll that'll lead you down the path

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: of health. Control your symptoms after you eat, control the

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: amount of sleep you get, Like there's other things to control.

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01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: But if you're trying to control your weight, you're raising

1432
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: cortisol and you're leading yourself into this dysfunctional relationship with

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Speaker 1: your body.

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01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: So well said, how do you manage fasting and working out?

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: Like how do you fit in and when should you

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01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: be fasting and working out? Do they happen at the

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01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: same time or do they need to be stacked.

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01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I'm going to go back to what's your intention?

1439
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember the book Body for Life?

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01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that book came out when I was again when

1442
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: I was in college, no ap, so it must have

1443
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: come in like the late nineties, early two thousands. And

1444
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: this it was a fitness trainer and he offered up

1445
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 1: a million dollars to the person who could lose the

1446
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: quickest weight, the most weight in the quickest period of time.

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: And he had a whole formula, and the number one

1448
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: formula that he said is you never work out after

1449
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: you've eaten, because his whole theory was when you eat,

1450
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: you've brought gluecose up, and then you go to work out,

1451
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: the body uses that glucose, whereas if you work out

1452
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: when the glucose is not spiked, your body has to

1453
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: go find the glucose it stored years ago in fat,

1454
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:16,480
Speaker 1: so it's actually going to burn fat more quickly. This

1455
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: was how we worked out for years. I think it's

1456
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: I taught people, my women and men, both in my

1457
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: clinic all the time this strategy. It is an incredible

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01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: way to lose weight. Here's the challenge is that it

1459
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: can break down muscle and muscle right now is like

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: we said, is it in vogue? It's the thing we're

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01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: talking about. So when we are looking at do you

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01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: fast and exercise in a fasted state, I think you

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01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself what your objective is. If you're

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01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: trying to lose weight. Yeah, I think it's a great idea,

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: especially on the days not you're weightlifting days, but the

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01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: days you're doing cardio yeah, and yoga and yoga and

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01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: we don't eat year two hours before yoga session. Those

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01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: are great times to go in in a fasted state.

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01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: But when you're trying to build muscle on the days

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01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: your strength training, let's have a little protein before and

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: let's have some protein afterwards. So just different days, different workouts,

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Speaker 1: different things you're trying to accomplish.

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Speaker 2: Great, doctor, Mindy Pels, has been such a joy talking

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01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 2: to you today. You've given so much valuable insight. This

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01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: is one of those episodes that I feel I'm going

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01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: to recommend to all my friends. Thank you. I'm going

1477
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 2: to be encouraging a lot of people to listen to

1478
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: it together, and I think everyone who's been listening and watching,

1479
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: I hope you pass it on to a friend. I

1480
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: hope you listen to it with a friend because I

1481
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: just think it's at the heart of so many of

1482
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: our issues today is how we eat, how we think

1483
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: about our bodies, how connected we are to our bodies.

1484
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: And I just love how structured, thoughtful, and methodical all

1485
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: your advice is so Thank you so much for writing

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: this incredible book and bringing so much value to our community.

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: We end every On Purpose episode with a final five

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01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 2: or a fast five and no pun included, and we'd

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01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 2: love you to answer each of these questions in one

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01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: word to one sentence maximum okay, okay, so doctor MINDI peals.

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 2: These are your fast five. The first question is what

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01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: is the best health advice you've ever heard or received

1493
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: or given?

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Don't eat in the dark. I love that one. Only

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01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: eat in the light. It balances almost every hormone.

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Speaker 2: I love that second question, what is the worst health

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Speaker 2: advice you've ever heard or received or given?

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Speaker 1: Low fat, low calorie foods are going to help you

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Speaker 1: lose weight.

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Speaker 2: Wait, let's dive into that tiny bit. I think we

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Speaker 2: covered it, but I just want to make sure for

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: anyone who's choosing low fat, low calorie food thinking they're

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Speaker 2: going to lose weight. What are they getting wrong?

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Speaker 1: Let's use a diet drink. It has aspertain limit. Aspertain

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01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: is an obesogen and it stimulates appetite. So you're you

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01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: chose the low sugar, you know, I don't want to

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01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: use brand names, but the diet soda. You chose that

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01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: thinking it's going to save help you lose weight. But

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01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: actually what it did is it's an obesogen that is

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01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: making you gain weight and spiking your appetite.

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01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: Got its crazy crazy, It's absolutely crazy.

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01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 1: It's like like, this is why, like conversations like this

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01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: ney to be had because there's people out there thinking

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: they're doing it all.

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01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: Wrong, totally totally, and you're doing all of that and

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01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: you're going why and you're looking in the mirror and

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01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 2: you're so mad at yourself.

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01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, then you turn on yourself.

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01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 1: Meanwhile big food is doing it to you.

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01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are we not being projected? Like why is it?

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01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Why are we allowed to put obesigens into our body?

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01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, why are we allowed to put all these

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01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 2: toxins plastics into our body?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really good question, and it starts

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Speaker 1: with the FDA, the Food and Drug Administrative administration. And

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: I have some quotes in there in the like a

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: girl that are really and for starters, why do we

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01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: have food and drugs in the same administration. We should

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01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: have a food administration and we should have a drug

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01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: And then within the FDA, there's a category of food

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01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: called gross generally recognized as safe. And what that means

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01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,919
Speaker 1: is that if they're going to put a new food product,

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01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: a synthetic food product, into the food system, they're going

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01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: to assume it's innocent until proven guilty. It takes a

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: lot of money to prove that these ingredients are harmful

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01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: and carcinogenic. One of the ones that I loved to

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01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 1: point out is partially hydrogenated oils. About twenty years ago,

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: they identified that partially hydrogenated oils fell into this gross category,

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: that it was generally recognized it's safe, but they hadn't

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01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: really seen research telling them it wasn't safe. And then

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01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: the research showed up and the research said that these

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,799
Speaker 1: partially hydrogenated oils were actually contributed, you know, a major

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01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: contributor to heart disease and should be taken out of

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01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: our food system. So what the FDA did is they say, okay,

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: food industry or food companies. You have twenty years. It

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01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: was like twenty to twenty five years to get this

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01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: carcinogenic heart challenged food out of our food system. And

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: it was by twenty twenty five, which is next year

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: that will be out of our system. But why did

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: they give them twenty years? How many people died in

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01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: those twenty years that when they've discovered that this food

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01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: was causing cardiovascular problems. That kind of bullshit goes on

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01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: in the FDA all the time. They care about profits,

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01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: they do not care about our health.

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01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: End a story so worrying and so sad, and that's

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: why we have to do it from the bottom up.

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01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: That's why you have to be you know, responsible, I

1559
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: always say, and I really want people to take this

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01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 1: to their heart where you sit with your health. If

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01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: it's not what you like today and you're hearing this

1562
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:11,799
Speaker 1: podcast and you're like, WHOA nobody told me all this? Yes,

1563
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: your poor health, your trouble losing weight, is not your fault.

1564
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: But now that you've heard this, it is your responsibility.

1565
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 1: Your health is your responsibility. And in this day and age,

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01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: if you're doing nothing, you're not reading ingredient labels you're

1567
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 1: not waking up to conversations like this. You are choosing

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01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 1: chronic disease. I promise you you are. The statistics are

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: showing that if you're just eating with a blind eye,

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01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: you are choosing chronic disease because the FDA cares more

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01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: about making profits than your well being.

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01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing this. Yeah. Question number three, how

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 2: would you define your current purpose?

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01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: It's been the purpose I've had for a while, and

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01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: it's to reconnect women to their bodies and fall in

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01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: love with their bodies again. I'll share a story on

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01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: that one. I was running around my neighborhood a few

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01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: years ago and this little old lady, like seventy year

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 1: old lady with this cute little hat and a little

1580
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: and she was walking her dog and she had a cane.

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01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I kept running past her, and on the third time

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01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I ran past her, she waved me down and she

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01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: said to me, I bet, it's amazing to live in

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01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: your body. And it was like to have a seventy

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01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: year old woman reflect that back to me made me

1586
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 1: realize that there's only one goal with a health specifically

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01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: for both men and women, but especially for women. Is

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01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: I want women to love living in their bodies. I

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01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: want women to have a really positive relationship with food.

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01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: I want women to feel empowered when they go into

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01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: their doctor's office so that they're not gas lit and

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01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: told that they know their BMI is so high they

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01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 1: better go get on some low calorie foods. Like I

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01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: want women to understand what the begift they're living in

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01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,879
Speaker 1: and love it. That's my purpose.

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01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: I love that question before you say in the book,

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01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,879
Speaker 2: when women heal, the world heals.

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01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Why thank you for putting that out. We are the nurturers,

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: We're the community builders. We are the leaders of our

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01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: family and their health. I mean, it's very even though

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01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: we have a lot of men staying at home now,

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01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,520
Speaker 1: women in general are the ones that make the health decisions.

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01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: And we are also the overgivers. When you take amazing

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01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: care of us, we can turn around and take amazing

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01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: care of you. So when women heal, then all of

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01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, the family heals. And when the family heals,

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01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: now the community heals. And when the community heals, then

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: the state heals. And it just keeps going out. But

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01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: if that woman is sick, now it's a house of cards.

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01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 1: And actually, Mary Anne Williamson's a dear friend of mine

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01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: and she sent me a message and with that quote,

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01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: and she said, this is what you're doing. And I

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01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: was so grateful for that, and that's why I put

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01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: it in the book. It's like, we need to heal women. Now.

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01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: We're half of the planet and we are sick, and

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01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: we are struggling, and we are reaching out and we

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01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: need to heal women so that we can turn around

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01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: and heal everyone else.

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01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely couldn't agree more. Fifth and final question. If you

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01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 2: could create one law that everyone in the world had

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01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: to follow, what would it be.

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01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: Oh, eat real food. We eat real food, nature's food,

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01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: food without chemicals. That would solve everything, without packaging, without packaging.

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01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: If everybody was forced to eat a potato versus a

1625
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: potato chip, things like that would be so much better.

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: But eat real food. End the story.

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01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 2: I love it. The book is called Eat Like a

1628
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 2: Girl by Dr Mindi Peals. If you don't follow Doctor

1629
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: Mindy already, please subscribe to our podcast, follow her across

1630
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: social media, and of course, grab a copy of Eat

1631
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: Like a Girl. I could not commend this book more,

1632
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,440
Speaker 2: I promise you. There are so many great insights, tactics,

1633
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 2: tips inside of the book. And I really really hope

1634
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 2: that you take charge and accountability of your own health

1635
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 2: after listening to this. Please send this episode to a friend.

1636
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: I know there's someone in your life who benefit massively

1637
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: from listening to Dr Mindi Pels's advice and Dr Mindy

1638
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: thank you again, honestly for coming on the show. I

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01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: hope you'll become a friend of the show and come

1640
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 2: back soon. I would love you because I just feel

1641
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: there's so much value that you're giving to the world,

1642
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: and I'm grateful to have you be a part of

1643
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: our platform. So thank you so much.

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01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you. I mean I should have probably

1645
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: started off and tell you like I listened to your

1646
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: podcast for years, and I love the way you show

1647
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: up and the guests you bring and the authentic voice

1648
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: you give us all an opportunity to live in that

1649
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 1: authenticity and it's just really enjoyable.

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01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you, thank you so much. If

1651
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 2: this year you're trying to live longer, live happier, live healthier,

1652
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 2: go and check out my comment with the world's biggest

1653
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 2: longevity doctor, Peter Attia on how to slow down aging

1654
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 2: and why your emotional health is directly impacting your physical health.

1655
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: Acknowledge that there is surprisingly little known about the relationship

1656
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 1: between nutrition and health, and people are going to be

1657
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: shocked to hear that, because I think most people think

1658
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: the exact opposite.