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Speaker 4: But now the Treasury Secretary, Wall Street, banks, the markets,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll sail through.

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Speaker 6: On both sides of the I think the President Trump

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Speaker 6: And He's talked about it a lot on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 2: Fifty six it's all happening.

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Speaker 3: As treasury yields have come down. That does it for

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Speaker 5: Make sure you join us right back here tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's time for Squawk on the Street.

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Speaker 7: Good Monday morning. Welcome to Squawk on the Street. I'm

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Speaker 7: Carl Kington, Awa, Jim Kramer, and David Fabrary Post nine

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Speaker 7: of the New York Stock Exchange. So I'm calling it

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Speaker 7: not the Trump Rally, but the Best and Rally. Stocks

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Speaker 7: up yields down on news of Scott beston being Trump's

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Speaker 7: with the curve briefly inverts. On this holiday shortened week,

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Speaker 8: Plus back to Trump's treasury picky is hedge fund manager

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Speaker 8: Scott Besson what that choice could mean for global markets.

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Speaker 2: This is the primal screen of a dying regime.

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Speaker 9: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 2: There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying

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Speaker 9: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 5: Bath.

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Speaker 9: It's Monday, twenty five November, in the Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty four. The best in bounce, and we told

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Speaker 9: It's only now let's get to the signal and avoid

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Speaker 10: Take a look here President Trump's transition net approval.

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Speaker 11: And look, I mean the reality is for these cabinet picks,

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Speaker 10: The bottom line is this Republicans very motivated by Donald

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Speaker 9: I told you, Harry Innton, I think is given the

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Speaker 9: You have a unique opportunity to take on the administrative

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Speaker 9: Talking about New York Times reporting, not Breitbart, not Gateway Pundit,

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Speaker 2: Roger Kimball, amazing piece.

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Speaker 9: Roger is I think, I would say the leading public

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Speaker 12: Sir, Well, it seems that this is the moment, This

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Speaker 12: They do not govern us, but a vast, sprawling bureaucracy

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Speaker 12: precisely the kind of despotism that Alexis to Tokeville looked

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Speaker 12: forward to in democracy in America when he warned about

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Speaker 12: democratic despotism, he said, in a democracy, in a modern democracy,

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Speaker 12: what you would see is despotism installing itself, as it were,

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Speaker 12: by stealth. And it would do this by promulgating an

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Speaker 12: ever more complex network of rules and regulations that would

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Speaker 12: reach into the interstaites of everyday life and stemy initiative,

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Speaker 12: and transform the public into from citizens, from free citizens,

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Speaker 12: into a herd of sheep over which the government would

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Speaker 12: preside as a more or as it sometimes is.

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Speaker 9: Er Roger Roger Roger hangover. Second, So we got a

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Speaker 9: couple of minutes here and I'm holding through the break. Look,

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Speaker 9: you have bureaucrats, because you have a big bureaucracy. But

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Speaker 9: the hit on us is that this is all a

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Speaker 9: conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 2: There's no administrative state, there's no deep state.

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Speaker 9: This is a bunch of this is a bunch of

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Speaker 9: this is from the fever swamps of the hard right

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Speaker 2: But there is no administrative state and there is no

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Speaker 2: deep state.

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Speaker 12: Your responsor, that's patent nonsense to take a trip to

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Speaker 12: your local d MV, have an interaction with the I

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Speaker 12: R S, try to start a business. When Elon Musk

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Speaker 12: told us that he had to provide a statement about

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Speaker 12: the water where the rockets were going to come down,

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Speaker 12: that is a perfect illustration of the administrative state in action.

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Speaker 12: We try to try to build a house where I live.

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Speaker 12: We were affected by Hurricane Sandy several years ago, and

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Speaker 12: the nightmare of dealing with FEMA with the local building

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Speaker 3: And by the way people he.

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Speaker 9: Hang Roger hang On one second. I want to get to

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Speaker 9: more of this in the conspiracy theory part of it all.

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Speaker 9: Roger Kimball from Encounter Books and American Greatness on the

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Speaker 9: Trump's unique opportunity to take on.

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Speaker 2: And dismantle the administrative in deep State.

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Speaker 9: Todd Bensman about the exacerbation of the invasion of our

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Speaker 9: country in the southern border by the illegitimate Biden regime.

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Speaker 9: And we will discuss the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons

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Speaker 9: into Ukraine as reported in the paper of record of

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Speaker 9: our beloved republic, The New York Times.

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Speaker 2: All next, use your host Stephen kvas.

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Speaker 9: dot Com. So look, Roger, Uh, what you named is interesting,

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Speaker 9: but that's just bureaucrats. That's just you know, you got

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Speaker 9: to get And I'm sorry that I'm sorry to build

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Speaker 9: your hang on, I'm sorry to build your new mansion

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Speaker 9: down on the on the beach in Jersey or wherever.

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Speaker 2: That you got to.

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Speaker 9: You got to get a couple of permits or Roger,

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Speaker 9: they make you to get another you know photo, but

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Speaker 9: hang on. So and this is the and this is

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Speaker 9: the point they point a finger to the Roger Kimballs

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Speaker 9: of the world and the Steve Benniswueld said, you guys

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Speaker 9: went to all these high falutant schools. You're all ivy

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Speaker 9: league guys. You know that there's no administrative state, but

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Speaker 9: you're you're you're feeding uh, you're feeding the hard right

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Speaker 9: of the Trump movement. With all these fantasies that there's

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Speaker 9: there's some administrative state, and then there's a rogue element,

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Speaker 9: the deep state, which is the intelligence, military, and law

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Speaker 9: enforcement aspect of it. So once again I'm gonna ask you,

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Speaker 9: why do you say in your piece that this is

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Speaker 9: a unique moment in time for President Trump and the

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Speaker 9: people around him to actually deconstruct the administrative state and

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Speaker 9: take down the deep state?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 12: Okay, So you've asked two questions here. Why is this

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Speaker 12: a unique moment? I'll get to that in just a second,

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Speaker 12: But the first question is is this really?

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Speaker 3: Isn't this just buocracy? Isn't this just government?

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Speaker 12: Isn't it aren't we just witnessing the operation of a standard,

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Speaker 12: huge administration. It's a complicated country, after all.

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Speaker 3: And my answer is no. And for two reasons.

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Speaker 12: One, people like to use the phrase conspiracy theory as

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Speaker 12: if that somehow negates the legitimacy of what's being described.

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Speaker 12: But some conspiracy theories are correct. So when Caunt Pernia

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Speaker 12: told Julius Caesar that there were conspiracy theories about his

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Speaker 12: being assassinated in forty four BC in the Eye of

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Speaker 12: the March, he scoffed at it, but it turns out

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Speaker 12: that was a true conspiracy theory. But that's one point

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Speaker 12: that do not let people delegitimate what you're saying by

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Speaker 12: the epithet conspiracy theory, because sometimes conspiracies are real. The

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Speaker 12: second point is this, what we have seen is the

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Speaker 12: administrative state real?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Is the deep state real? Yes?

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Speaker 12: For the same reason that the Stalinist and the Leninist

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Speaker 12: deep state was real. Lenin said that communism means keeping

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Speaker 12: track of everything, and that is what the administrative state

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Speaker 12: is trying to do. We've erected this gigantic surveillance regulatory apparatus,

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Speaker 12: and just as a subject of the Soviet Union would

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Speaker 12: have been subjugated to that administrative state, so we in

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Speaker 12: this country are in increasingly subject to the American version

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Speaker 12: of that. It's not as brutal yet I hope it

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Speaker 12: never will be, but it is every bit as active

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Speaker 12: and reaching into all aspects of our life. So when

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Speaker 12: people say, well, is there this thing called the administrative state? No,

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Speaker 12: but what it is is you can see with your

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Speaker 12: own eyes the way in which we have gradually and

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Speaker 12: then rapidly moved away from the vision of the founders,

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Speaker 12: where we have three branches of government and only three,

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Speaker 12: not four. They didn't have a provision for this vast

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Speaker 12: cadre of again unelected and accountable bureaucrats. That is one

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Speaker 12: of the keys here. They're not elected by anyone. You

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Speaker 12: can't get rid of them except with grave difficulty, and

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Speaker 12: they run our lives. So the reality of this deep state,

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Speaker 12: this administrative state, I think, I mean, who are you

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Speaker 12: going to believe you know me or you're lying eyes

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Speaker 12: as I think it was Graucho Marx said. But to

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Speaker 12: the second point, why is this an historic moment? Because

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump has just won a decisive victory, and he's

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Speaker 12: won not just the electoral votes, not just the popular.

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Speaker 3: Vote, he has won the zeitgeist.

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Speaker 12: There you just were playing a segment from CNN of

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Speaker 12: all places, noting the the Trump effect that somehow everybody

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Speaker 12: seems to be a little more positive about this transition,

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Speaker 12: and the opportunity that has been given to us is

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Speaker 12: very very rare, and I really hope that Elon Musk

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Speaker 12: and Vivek Ramaswami, with their Department of Governmental Efficiency, are

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Speaker 12: able to do what they outlined in their Peace in

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Speaker 12: the Wall Street a few days ago, in which I

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Speaker 12: summarized in my piece in American Greatness yesterday, which is

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Speaker 12: to attack the regulatory apparatus, to lower the headcount of

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Speaker 12: the number of bureaucrats, and finally to effect you know,

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Speaker 12: important cost savings for the for the American people.

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Speaker 3: I think it can be done.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, know they mentioned things like the

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Speaker 12: few billion dollars of expenditures. But one they didn't mention

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Speaker 12: that I'd like to mention is the National Endowment for Democracy,

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Speaker 12: which gets I think about three hundred and twenty million

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Speaker 12: dollars from the from the government. It's a private entity.

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Speaker 12: It's a private entity that Congress funds. On their board

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Speaker 12: are people like Victoria Newland and an Applebaum. This is

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Speaker 12: these people are out there, you know, promoting war in

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Speaker 12: Ukraine and elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: It's it's very if.

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Speaker 9: As we've gone through in the show many times, the

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Speaker 9: National Delma for Democracy started with Jesse Helms and the

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Speaker 9: anti Communist warriors, yes back in the eighties and nineties,

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Speaker 9: but it is it has been taken over by the

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Speaker 9: Color Revolution crowd of Robert Kagan and his quite destructive

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Speaker 9: and dangerous wife Victoria Neulan and others an apple bomster

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Speaker 9: world which you are always trying to get us into. Roger,

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Speaker 9: We're one thing if you're going to make us see

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Speaker 9: by the way, I love the Caesar and uh with

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Speaker 9: Caesar's Caesar's wife warning him. The other conspiracy too was

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Speaker 9: that And this relates directly to Trump, is that they

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Speaker 9: you know, his guy's warning that the Senate were coming

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Speaker 9: after him on a conspiracy to charge Caesar with corruption

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Speaker 9: and gaull of all the great work he had done talkering.

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Speaker 9: That's why he headed back to the Rubicon and said,

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Speaker 9: maybe I have something to say about that. But this

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Speaker 9: was this was exactly like, this was exactly like what

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Speaker 9: what the deep state.

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Speaker 2: Let's take the deep state aspect of this.

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Speaker 9: The deep state came after Trump in a way that

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Speaker 9: is unfathomable to the American people and unprecedented. MSNBC and

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Speaker 9: the New York Times put they put they put democracy

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Speaker 9: on the ballot as their number one thing. We had

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Speaker 9: a referendum on that. The American people rendered a verdict.

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Speaker 9: And you're right, they want to change to the zeitgeist.

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Speaker 9: They want that to go away. Is that is that

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Speaker 9: part of your understanding of why this is a moment.

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Speaker 12: Sir, Yeah, well absolutely, you know and I you're the

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Speaker 12: people you just had on the from CNN they said

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Speaker 12: the Democrats are tired. They're very tired, but you were right.

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Speaker 12: They will regroup. And this, this moment is really it's rare,

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Speaker 12: maybe unique in our history. We must seize it, uh

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Speaker 12: and Elon Musk and be the Akaramaswami. I really, you know,

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Speaker 12: they are going to be part of the transition. They

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Speaker 12: will be able to do this stuff if if we

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Speaker 12: let them.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's it.

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Speaker 12: It's it's this moment's not going to come again, and

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Speaker 12: it's the only way in which we can begin to

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Speaker 12: whittle away at the deep state. And I mean, we

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Speaker 12: are in a fiscal crisis.

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Speaker 3: I don't you know. You get up in the morning,

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Speaker 3: you have your coffee, you may not quite.

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Speaker 12: Recognize it, but we have a federal debt of almost

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Speaker 12: thirty six trillion dollars. That's it's you know, it's an

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Speaker 12: unfathomable number. And if we do not get our fiscal

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Speaker 12: house in order, it's this country will it will be

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Speaker 12: swallowed up by debt.

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Speaker 3: That's part of what they.

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Speaker 2: Where where do people get Where do people get access

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Speaker 2: to you, sir well.

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Speaker 12: I write a weekly column for American Greatness, and I

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Speaker 12: write regularly for The Spectator, both the English and American version.

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Speaker 12: And I write for the New Criterion, my magazine, and

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Speaker 12: other places in the London Telegraph, for example. And I'm

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Speaker 12: on x formerly Twitter. Just my handle is just at

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Speaker 12: Roger Kimball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you are, Roger, Thank you so much. Great piece.

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Speaker 9: We're going to make sure it gets out where grays

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Speaker 9: and we are going to push this out hard today.

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Speaker 9: Thank you brother, appreciate you. Let's talk about the conversion

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Speaker 9: of which Roger is talking about that. You've got the Doge,

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Speaker 9: you got the Doge cadre of Elon Musk and the

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Speaker 9: Veck Ramaswami and a team they're putting together, and that

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Speaker 9: team has put a landing team in the Imperial capital

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Speaker 9: of what you're going through.

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Speaker 2: Remember the Wall Street Journal article and you can get

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Speaker 2: it all. Roger breaks it all down for you.

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Speaker 9: Number one, start to take apart the regulatory apparas. Obviously

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Speaker 9: you need certain regulations and nobodys saying you need that,

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Speaker 9: but to take a part of the regulatory apparatus that

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Speaker 9: is choking entrepreneurism. Number two, go to headcount, and that headcount,

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Speaker 9: I might add, because we've done the math, you got

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Speaker 9: two and a half million federal employees, about two and

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Speaker 9: a half million military. Of the eighteen million contractors, about

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Speaker 9: four or five million I believe are in kind of

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Speaker 9: managerial functions. I just rounded, kind of rounding there, but

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Speaker 9: roughly then you have if you add that together, you

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Speaker 9: get about.

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Speaker 2: Ten million people.

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Speaker 9: That folks that are running this six and a half

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Speaker 9: trillion dollars apparatus. You got to reduce the head count

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Speaker 9: and the billets, and you need cost savings dramatic.

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Speaker 2: It's not just waste, fraud and abuse. Let's let's put that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, there's certainly waste, there's certainly some fraud, no doubt

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Speaker 9: about it. There's certainly abuse, inefficiencies all that. But this

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Speaker 9: is programmatic and that is the second part of the puzzle.

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Speaker 9: Remember those at the end of the day, when you

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Speaker 9: look at their agreement, is nothing more than an advisory

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Speaker 9: and consulting group.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 9: Wait for it, RUSS vote in OMB. This is why

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Speaker 9: RUSS vote is so important. RUSS votes now announced as

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Speaker 9: the director of O and B, and that's been I

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Speaker 9: think embraced except for the madness that they're thrown at

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Speaker 9: him as being a Christian nationalist and twenty twenty five

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Speaker 9: and all that. But Russ's O and B will be

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Speaker 9: the driving force, with Doge kind of on a flank

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Speaker 9: helping them, assisting them, highlighting as these guys can really

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Speaker 9: get to the media. The other aspect of that you

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Speaker 9: also have is the legislative branch, because remember we go

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Speaker 9: through a process. We fought back with the McCarthy situation

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Speaker 9: in January and February of twenty twenty three to get

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Speaker 9: the appropriations process to be twelve individual bills are all

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Speaker 9: going through that appropriations process now with subcommittee.

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Speaker 2: I think Joni Ernst in the Senate.

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Speaker 9: MTG in the House will also be on I think

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Speaker 9: in oversight working with appropriations. When you merge all of

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Speaker 9: that together, you have, for the first time, after decades

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Speaker 9: and decades and decades of talk about about taking down

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Speaker 9: the leviathan of two bigger government to get back to

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Speaker 9: limited government, you actually have the forces of raid for battle,

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Speaker 9: right from tech entrepreneurs, people that are bringing about cutting

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Speaker 9: costs all the way to Russ vote in the team

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Speaker 9: over at OMB two now Capitol Hill awaken to the

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Speaker 9: fact that why do we appropriate this just to cut

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Speaker 9: it later. Maybe we get into the appropriations process and

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Speaker 9: cut it out at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: This is the beginning of action, action, action, and usion.

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Speaker 10: Now, I think one word to describe Democrats now, it's

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Speaker 10: just they're exhausted, tired.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's very hard being in the opposition.

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump wears out his opponents, and I think they've

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Speaker 10: done that here. So Democrats Trump Trump's win motivates me

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Speaker 10: in what way to do things? Just forty four percent

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Speaker 10: say to oppose Donald Trump. The majority the fifty six

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Speaker 10: percent either forty six percent, it doesn't motivate me at all,

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Speaker 10: which I think is really the exhaustion pick. Right, This

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Speaker 10: is the plurality, or ten percent say it actually motivates

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Speaker 10: them to support Donald Trump. Together, these numbers get fifty

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Speaker 10: six percent, far higher than the forty four percent who

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Speaker 10: say oppose Donald Trump. The bottom line is this Republicans

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Speaker 10: very motivated by Donald Trump's win, and compared to eight

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Speaker 10: years ago, Democrats just really, really tired.

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Speaker 2: Think about this. So please never forget. I know this

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Speaker 2: audience won't, but for.

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Speaker 9: Those or maybe new viewers and new listeners, the Nikky

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Speaker 9: Haley and Ron de Santas and the Mike Pompeo and

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Speaker 9: all the Mitch McConnell and particularly Paul Ryan. In fact,

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Speaker 9: if my team can we cut some of the Paul

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Speaker 9: Ryan vitriol Trump can't win. Trent Concier, where are they now?

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Speaker 9: Where are they now? They're all skipping around and loving

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Speaker 9: what Trump's doing. They love, they love the wins. They

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Speaker 9: don't want to work for the wins, in fact, they

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Speaker 9: want to work against it. And then what they want

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Speaker 9: to do now is thwart the full on assault.

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Speaker 2: On the administrative and deep state.

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Speaker 9: This is what the Gates appoint was the attorney general

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Speaker 9: in Pam Bondi. She's a tough ombre, right, She'll be

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Speaker 9: finding the guy. She has a great team around her.

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Speaker 9: She's not Gates, but then Gates is pretty unique. This

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Speaker 9: is why they stopped you. This convergence to get on

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Speaker 9: with it has to be more than the deregulator. Look

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Speaker 9: what the Doose guys are laying out is absolutely solid.

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Speaker 9: We've argued for this for years and now they bring

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Speaker 9: the throw weight to actually get it done. You combine

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Speaker 9: that with RUSS vote, You combine that with some savvy,

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Speaker 9: tough people, particularly people that understand the appropriations process and

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Speaker 9: media like MTG. That's a powerful combo. That's a team

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Speaker 9: and this has to be a team sport. It's not

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Speaker 9: going to be anyone individual because the administrative state is

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Speaker 9: too vast.

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Speaker 2: So it's looking good. But that's why in the moment

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Speaker 2: of history.

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Speaker 9: Agency agency, agency attack, attack, attack, be on offense.

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Speaker 2: Right now, when.

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Speaker 9: You have them shattered and you have them in the

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Speaker 9: fetal position, sucking their thumb looking for a pacifier, this

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Speaker 9: is when you roll hard, hard, hard. This is the

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Speaker 9: reason we won. We're harder than they are. There are

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Speaker 9: a lot of people I respect their fight. On the

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Speaker 9: other side, I totally disagree with the ideology, but I

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Speaker 9: respect their fight. But there's not. Their bench is not

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Speaker 9: that deep when it comes to fighters, their quitters. You

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Speaker 9: see them about running and leaving the country. Right, That's

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Speaker 9: why now we turned out to be harder. We never

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Speaker 9: after they came out of this with total state power.

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Speaker 9: People did not collapse. People did not run away. Traditional

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Speaker 9: Republicans ran away, the established order ran away.

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Speaker 2: You know this.

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Speaker 9: Look at your friends, look at people the conservative media space.

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Speaker 2: See where they were a couple of years ago. Why

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Speaker 2: they're not hard enough, They're not tough enough.

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Speaker 9: We went through this kind of Darwinian process and guess

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Speaker 9: what this audience won because you're hard, you're tough, you're focus,

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Speaker 9: you're relentless.

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Speaker 2: You've got that good old.

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Speaker 9: American grit and cussedness that made this country the most

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Speaker 9: powerful nation in the history of the earth. Todd Bensman,

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Speaker 9: there are forces out there aligned against us that are

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Speaker 9: trying to destroy this country and still trying to do it.

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Speaker 9: And they've targeted working class African Americans and working class

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Speaker 9: Hispanic citizens as their target to destroy because they are

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Speaker 9: not giving up on the invasion of this country as

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Speaker 9: you report.

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Speaker 2: Can you get us up to date, sir?

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Speaker 8: Right, So what's happening at the border right now is

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Speaker 8: the Trump effect two point zho. If you remember, the

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Speaker 8: Trump effect was the term given to the first term

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Speaker 8: the talk, the tough talk that was heard around the

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Speaker 8: world among the aspiring illegal aliens, and they decide to.

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Speaker 2: Stay home just at the talk.

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Speaker 8: You got to have follow through with action though we're

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Speaker 8: at the tough talk part again. Two point zero. The

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Speaker 8: numbers are about eighteen hundred a day border wide, five

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Speaker 8: hundred in Texas and the rest California and Arizona. For

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Speaker 8: the most part, those numbers are low historically. By four years,

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Speaker 8: we want to see those things down below one thousand

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Speaker 8: a day, even when Trump is actually doing deportations and

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Speaker 8: pushbacks under remain in Mexico. But it's looking good right now.

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Speaker 8: But there are hundreds of thousands of aspiring illegal aliens

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Speaker 8: in Mexico that are just busting to get over the border.

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Speaker 8: Still the Mexican military is holding them back right now

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Speaker 8: because Trump threatened trade tariffs. If you let any of

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Speaker 8: them through, Claudia Shinbaum, the new president, it's going to

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Speaker 8: be a big problem for your economy. Nice economy. You

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Speaker 8: got there be a shame if anything bad happened to it.

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Speaker 2: Sort of thing.

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Speaker 8: And then you have Tom Homan out there on the

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Speaker 8: media circuit that cannot be by accident that he's on

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Speaker 8: every media outlet that'll take them right now, because he

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Speaker 8: is messaging deportations. So he wants those hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 8: to just like go home or stay in place. And

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Speaker 8: I think, so far, so good. But they could rush

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Speaker 8: that border between now and inauguration and hope that they

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Speaker 8: get in and don't get caught up in mass deportation plans.

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Speaker 2: Or anything like that.

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Speaker 8: So things are unstable, but pretty good so far with

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Speaker 8: Trump effect two point zero.

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Speaker 9: Okay, and give me a thing again about but what

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Speaker 9: are the Biden guys trying to do. I understand that

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Speaker 9: Mexico understands what's happening, Central America understands what was happening

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Speaker 9: a and hear that they're talking about building a wall

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Speaker 9: down on the Darien Gap in Panama. Right there's all

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Speaker 9: whole sea changes zeitgeist. But simultaneously we have the sea change,

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Speaker 9: Simultaneously we have the Biden hasn't given up on still

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Speaker 9: trying to get as many people in this country as possible.

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Speaker 9: They're talking about a new app that would go through

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Speaker 9: December thirtieth correct.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 8: Of course, what the administration is doing the outcoming lane

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Speaker 8: duck administration is they're trying to get as many people

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Speaker 8: in and Trump proofed as they possibly can in the

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Speaker 8: next fifty four days. They are fast tracking people on

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Speaker 8: the CBP one app who have applied and gotten in

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Speaker 8: and trying to get them their applications approved so that

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Speaker 8: they can fly more in, approved for flights many more

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Speaker 8: in and cross them over the land border as well

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Speaker 8: at the ports of entry. That's the CBP one app.

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Speaker 8: They're fast tracking that thing. They're trying to make it

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Speaker 8: as quickly as possible. I have a USCIS officer who

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Speaker 8: just is in the middle of all this who just

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Speaker 8: told me that they had a big meeting and they

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Speaker 8: were told all hands on deck to stamp approve a

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Speaker 8: stamp approof stamp approve, everybody on deck. Get them in

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Speaker 8: here as fast as possible to make facts on the

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Speaker 8: ground that will be hard to reverse when Trump the

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Speaker 8: Trump people.

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Speaker 2: Get into office.

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Speaker 8: And then also they're contemplating a reapplying temporary protected status.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang I want

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Speaker 9: to explain all this to the audience. This is trying

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Speaker 9: to make the effort to the deportations even harder stick

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Speaker 9: around second hour of the War room. Up next, Got America.