1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: How's it going. This is Jason Kelcey and welcome to 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The Philly Show. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: 'ben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky The Philly Show. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, November eleventh, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: is doing just great. So if you missed last week's shows. Monday, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: we went over all the top free agents the Phillies 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: could pursue. Last Wednesday we went over all the top 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: great candidates the Phillies could pursue. And then on Friday, 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: we talked with Josh Norris of Baseball America. He ran 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: through Baseball America's Philly's top ten prospects. Listen, if you're 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: watching this on YouTube and you're going, hey, man, I 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: missed that episode, Well, we had a little bit of 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: a technical issue, so it's not available on YouTube. We're 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: gonna get it back up soon, so if if you 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: want to check out, that episode is great stuff. Josh 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: was very candid about the Phillies' top prospects and if 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: you wanted, if you can't wait for it to go 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: back up on YouTube, you can always check u out 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: us on Apple and Spotify. 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: So the Phillies YouTube's having some issues. 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube's having some issues with us. 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: They don't like us, they don't like us. 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: We got to get that episode up. I mean, he 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: was very he was very interesting, interesting to hear different 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: points of view, outside points of view from people, you know, 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: talk to a lot of people around the industry, and 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: he was He gave some real honest critique on some 28 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: on some guys that the Phillies are really counting on. 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: So I would really urge folks to listen to that. 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: A lot of good information. 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 5: Uh, they are prospects, right, that's right, your prospects. 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: They're not finished products. 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: Correct, And I would remind you, I would remind you 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: Baseball America absolutely trashed JP Crawford, you know, years ago, 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what it was, seven eight 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: years ago, and he's turned out to be a pretty 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: good player in Seattle. 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: Very good player. 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah right, very good shortstop, no doubt about it. So 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: the GM meetings, guys. 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: Are going on this week in Las Vegas. Philly's there. 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: Everybody's there. We're not there, but everybody's there in Las 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: Vegas for the GM meetings. And in light of that, 44 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: the hot stove season getting started. We asked you our 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: listeners and viewers for some questions about the Phillies Hot 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: Stove season, so let's jump right into it. This one 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: is from folk Jam on Instagram. Will Kyle Schwarber's free 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: agency be drawn out? And how should the Phillies respond 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: if so? And as a follow up, this is from 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: Pan Martin on Facebook. Kind of related, Let's hear your 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: guesses of the Big three Schwarber, JT, Rangers, Suarez, who 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: signs first, no matter where? And when will it be? 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: So? 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: Do we think Schwarber's free agency will be drawn out? 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Let's start are and how would the Phillies respond. 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be drawn out drawn out, 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: And based on k known his personality a little bit, 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: I think he would probably like to know where he's headed, 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: and I think he wants to come back here, and 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: I think they're willing to do what it takes, So 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: I think all that adds up to him making a 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 4: rather quick decision. 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I just don't see it being drawn out. 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: I would say moderately drawn out. And the reason why 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: I say it is that Casey close represents both he 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: and Kyle Tucker, and I think they sort of will 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 5: affect each other. In some way, shape or form, probably 68 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: two of the best offensive players. I guess you could 69 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: say Bragman's in there as well Alonso, But as far 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: as profile is concerned, I think the fact that. 71 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: You know that Casey Close has both of those guys, 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: I do believe that. 73 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna take a little time, because when 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: one domino goes, the next one will then go. I 75 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: think I don't think that Kyle Schwarber will go for 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 5: the last dollar. I think for he'll go for a 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: combination of comfort dollar and length. Kyle Tucker, I think 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 5: he's going to go for the last dollar because he 79 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 5: has got a chance to move the market, and so 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 5: I think that they may affect each other moderate. I 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 5: do think before Christmas we will know on Kyle Schwarber, 82 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: you toadd. 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping it's before Christmas, because there's nothing worse 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: than getting, you know, something breaking on like December twenty third. 85 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 2: You're you're sitting down and running around with the kids 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: of the family, going somewhere. It's like, oh crap. So 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: I hope it's some before the let's put it to 88 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: you that way. But yeah, I so I agree with you. 89 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 90 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: If you think he's gonna wait on Talker, though that 91 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: could equal drawn out because I don't know. 92 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: If he's necessarily gonna be waiting. It's just gonna it 93 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: will affect him. The negotiations that will be going on 94 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: parallel will affect the two. 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 5: I just think it'll stretch it out a little bit 96 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: longer than it typically would. 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna guess that we I'm gonna guess that 98 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: we all think we're gonna rank these guys in the 99 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: same order. Schwarber, j T, Ranger. Who do you think 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: gets signed first? I'm gonna say JT signs first. 101 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: Boom. 102 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: I think it's a I think that's more cut and ride. 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: If you give him a three year deal ish at 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: the aa V that he thinks he deserves. Out of 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: respect for him, I think I could see him signing. 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: Then I think it'll be Kyle, and then I think, deep, deep, 107 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: deep into the winter, we could get an answer and 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: Ranger Suarez and unless somebody absolutely goes bananas and says 109 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: we have to have this guy and make a monster offer, 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: what do you hear? 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: I think that's very fair. 112 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 5: Like if they do what they did with Jason Worth, 113 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 5: where a team goes literally bonkers because they were no 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 5: one was even close in that day when he got 115 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: what one hundred and twenty five million or whatever it was, 116 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: you know, Boris isn't going to jump bars knew that 117 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: that that that was going to be a number that 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 5: was way beyond everybody else. So so they made the 119 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: move there with Washington back then. I don't see that 120 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: happen with Rangers, sware thing it's gonna be way drawn out. 121 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 5: I think Rangers going to sign in like March, and 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 5: I think JT is going to be the first and 123 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 5: I think Kyle's going to be the next one. 124 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: I think JT will be done by. 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 5: Just in between Thanksgiving and Christmas time. 126 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: Okay, when when does he typically go to clear Water 127 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 4: with his family? 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: JT? 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: That's a great question because he spends you know, a 130 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: good chunk, He owns a place there. Right when we 131 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: had him on our podcast last year, he was in 132 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: clear Water, and he goes to clear Water early. So 133 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: I could see him going early. And I don't think 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: SWAR is going to be terribly drawn out either. I 135 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: think both of them like it here and have unfinished 136 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: business here. And I think that the organization wants both 137 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: of them back and realizes it's going to have to 138 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: do something to you know, get him and get him 139 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: back quick and and move on and address other needs. 140 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Three years forty million for JT. 141 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: There you go. Do you think that's okay? 142 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: Because I know, yeah, I was thinking if it's going 143 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: to go three years, it might go forty five. 144 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: I think I might jump at that. 145 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, three years forty five ish? 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Jump. 147 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: I don't think he needs to get to fifteen. 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: You don't think so? 149 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay? 150 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't give him fifteen million dollars. I mean 151 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: I would really choke on it. 152 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: Right. 153 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: You might have to, though, if you want the player, right, 154 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: that's isn't that creagency? 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't not too many catchers making fifteen. 156 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: That's true, I mean, especially now. Salvador Perez just signed 157 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: that two year, twenty five million dollar deal with the Royals. 158 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: So that's twelve and a half. So there you go. 159 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: Maybe that, you know, if I'm the Phillies, I'm looking 160 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: at that, going look at this. 161 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: At that ballpark there right right? 162 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll follow up. Then, this is from Dave 163 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Sheer on Facebook at the Phillies don't resign JT. Who 164 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: do you think will be the catcher in twenty twenty sixty? 165 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: Guys have any thoughts on that? 166 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Marshawan, marsha and I like Marshan, but Marshan's gonna 167 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: need some us. He's gonna need some support. 168 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 5: He's gonna need a Caratini or a Jansen or a. 169 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: Someone like that to help him out. Maybe McCann. You 170 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: know what, I know, Garrett Stubbs is still there. 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 5: And part of the organization, and he might be the 172 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 5: second guy. I don't know if the tandem of Garrett 173 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: Stubbs and Marshawan is the way to go. 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, Rubin, I've been thinking about this 175 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: a lot. I feel the same thing I think. If 176 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: they don't bring back JT. I don't like any of 177 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: the options in free agency, and I don't know if 178 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: I want to make a big trade. Adley Rushman might 179 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: be great, but it's gonna cost you a ton and 180 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: I don't like that. So I might just go with 181 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: Marshawn and like you said, maybe like a solid number 182 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: two guy who maybe could elevate into a number one 183 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: spot if Marshawn gets hurt because he is injury prone, 184 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: and I might go that direction and save those bullets, 185 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: save those prospects, and save that cash for somewhere else 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: on the roster. 187 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: How about the Braves guy, if they looked at dumb 188 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: salary Murphy. 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: Oshan Murphy, Ye, and the Braves would have to they 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: know that they would have to be pennies on the 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: dollar if they got it. 192 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 5: But I would sort of split Marshan and Murphy. 193 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: You know time. I mean, maybe I know who. I 194 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: don't know, whoever playing better gets the bulk. I like Marshan, 195 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: I like him. Yeah, he can catch for me. 196 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 2: How about this now, let's now, let's okay. You love 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: Marshan Rubin, you love him so much. What if, if 198 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: this is from Billy Brian Riley on Facebook, if the 199 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 2: Phillies re signed JT, would you use Raphiel Marshan as 200 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: trade bait to help you get something? 201 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: Of course? 202 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. I agree as well. I'm on 203 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: board with that. 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So okay, here we go. 240 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 241 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 2: This is from This question is from a legitimate c 242 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: k on X. I love the trade episode last week, 243 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: but due to how the current prospect pipeline is for 244 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: the Phillies, is it fair to suggest we'll try not 245 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: to include guys like eight million but instead try to 246 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: use players like Alec Bohm and Nick Castiano's. If so, 247 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: I can't imagine us having many trade strong trade talks 248 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: or big time trades. 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: Well on the Big League Rosser. Yeah, I think Ball 250 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: will be dangled. I think doesn't mean they're gonna move them, 251 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: but you know they would be willing to. I think 252 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: same thing for Scott. I think they'd be willing to Marsh, 253 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 4: same thing with Marsh And yeah, you're gonna be protective 254 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 4: of Painter, You're gonna be protective of Miller, but you know, 255 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: a run Escobar could be a guy that you know, 256 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: he's farther away, but he's apparently a hell of a talent. 257 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: Dante Nori could be available. There's some guys on that 258 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: top ten list. I think they'd dig into beyond the 259 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: top couple. 260 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they'd be more apt to probably move 261 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 5: a guy like Alec Bohm, just. 262 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: To change things up. That would really sort. 263 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: Of you know, if you're if you're worried about running 264 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: it back, which I am, I like to you maybe 265 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: and you may have to move from your from your 266 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: major league club to do so, and you may not 267 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 5: get great value for them, but you should get value 268 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 5: for them because they're playing in the big leagues and 269 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: being productive. 270 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 271 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: The one guy that that legitimate c K mentioned was 272 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: cast Downs. That's a different category. That's probably that's more 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: of a salary dump. I wouldn't be surprised if we 274 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: know more about cast downs the situation before the end 275 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: of the week coming out of the GM meetings. I'm 276 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: sure they've laid a lot of groundwork on if anybody's 277 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: going to be interested in the cast downs? Can we 278 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: would you be interested in you know, if we eight 279 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: fifteen million out of the twenty would you want them? 280 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Yes? 281 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: No, So I feel like they're going to have a 282 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: more They could have a more concrete picture about his situation, 283 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, this week coming out of the GM meetings, 284 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: as they. 285 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: And it may take a while because they're going to 286 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: exhaust it. I mean, it's twenty million bucks. 287 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: And you know, they did not dump Taiwan Walker. He 288 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: ended up coming back and being pretty productive and helpful 289 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: for them. 290 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: He's still around and his eighteen million or whatever it is. 291 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: And I mean it's going. 292 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: To be a little exhaustive because they're going to have 293 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: to try to find somebody who does not add to 294 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: their offense from the right side during the course of 295 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: the off season. I mean it may drift all the 296 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: way into February or March. 297 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: I think I have a little bit of a different 298 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: take I think it might move quicker, just so this 299 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: kind of situation can be eliminated, so it just doesn't 300 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: linger become a cloud. 301 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: What are we going to do? So there's some. 302 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: Really closure in some certainty heading into the bulk of 303 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: the off season, it wouldn't surprise me if they moved 304 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: rather quickly on that. 305 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: But you know, again, who knows? 306 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, here we go. We got a few 307 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: questions on this one. Bo Nto on Instagram. How likely 308 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: is Don Manningly a choice for the open bench coach spot? 309 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: Chuck Fogg on Instagram. Doesn't adding Donnie Baseball put the 310 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: pressure on Rob Thompson? Fair? I think it's fairmount on 311 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: threads and any update on Donnie Baseball? Jim you first 312 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: mentioned last week that the Phillies had expressed interest in 313 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: Don Manningly to be the Phillies bench coach. 314 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the guy they want. It sounds like it's 315 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: in his the balls in his court. I don't know 316 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: how long they're gonna wait, because you do want to 317 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: assemble your staff. But I don't think if he says 318 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: yes to the Phillies, I don't think it puts undue 319 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: pressure on Rob for simple reasons. 320 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: You know, we all know Rob. 321 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: He's pretty secure guy, pretty secure in his own skin. 322 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: This is the guy who considered retirement a few years ago. 323 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: Kind of look at this as you know, almost gravy 324 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: for him, you know, staying on and continue to chase 325 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: a world series dream with the Fes. So I don't 326 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: think he'd be threatened at all. I think he'd welcome 327 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: the uh, the support. I think he's got a good 328 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 4: rapport with manning Lee dating to their time in the Yankees, 329 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 4: on the Yankees staff and that organization, and you know, 330 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: Dombrowski came out and said they were looking for big 331 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: league experience, managerially experienced experience. He's managed two teams. Beyond that, 332 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: he's got a lot of playing experience. And I think 333 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 4: that would play well in the clubhouse because there's a 334 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: kind of a dearth of big league playing experience on 335 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: that staff. So I think it would maybe create more 336 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: of a well rounded staff. But we'll see if Don 337 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: Manningley says yes he I read that story on MLB 338 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: dot com last week where he he wasn't sure that 339 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: he wanted to be on the road quite as much. Well, 340 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: you know, if he's not doesn't want to be on 341 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: the road. Being a bench coach is not necessarily a 342 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: job for you because you're gonna be back on the road. 343 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: But I think there's a lot of things that would 344 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: be attractive to him here, including his son. 345 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: As the GM. 346 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: That would be a hell of a story if the 347 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: Phillies could, you know, bring it home. I mean, what 348 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: a memory for that family if they could make it happen. 349 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 4: So I think he'd be a really good ad to 350 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 4: the staff. 351 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see where it goes. 352 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 5: Be a great ad, a lot of credibility to the staff, 353 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 5: someone who actually has been in the big leagues and 354 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: played in the big leagues, managed in the big leagues. 355 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 5: And I don't think it will affect at all. He 356 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: wants to get better people around him, I'm sure. And 357 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: if I'm Donnie though, I might wait. How many openings 358 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: are there still one Colorado? 359 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I think that's the only one left, right, Yeah? Yeah, 360 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: But he has said that's. 361 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: Not I mean, I mean, listen, maybe not ideal, but 362 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: was he around when deep Adesta was there in La 363 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 5: Was he with the Dodgers at that time? 364 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: He might have been, But you go back. I don't 365 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: have to go. 366 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: Back and look at that so interest they might have 367 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: cross paths. 368 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that that's Deeperdesta's flavor, but. 369 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to go a lot. 370 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: I guess I should flip it. 371 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 8: I don't know if he's Donnie, you know, he's Donnie's 372 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 8: flavor flavor, but there's still a job out there. I 373 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 8: would assume we'll be go to a very young, analytic 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 8: type of manager. 375 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 5: If I know how Paul deep Adesta sort of works, 376 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 5: I would assume that's going to happen. 377 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: But you never know. 378 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 5: And uh, but he'd be a great ad to the organization. 379 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: I loved him as a manager in Miami. 380 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 5: I think he did a hell of a job there, 381 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: and nothing but positives. 382 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: To have a guy like Donnie around, he is. 383 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: Kind of indicated. 384 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: I mean I think actually more than kind of, he's 385 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: indicated that Colorado probably wouldn't be a fit given that 386 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: they're in a pretty serious rebuild. They might want someone younger. 387 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: So I get to feel that if he continues in uniform, 388 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: it's going to be with the at least, but who's 389 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 4: who knows. 390 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: Okay, this is from Michael ats on X and we 391 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: we talked a lot about uh free agents, on again 392 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: last Monday, So check out that show. If you were 393 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: the GM, besides any of the Phillies current free agents, 394 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: who would be the one guy you'd try and get 395 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: to improve the team. A lot of factors, a player 396 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: like what you know? What are we are we saying 397 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: unlimited budget? Are we saying you know you've been instructed 398 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: to not go more than two years? 399 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: No budget? Okay? 400 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 3: No budget? 401 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: No no budget? Okay, no budget. 402 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: I'd iro is Tard schoobl guy or or I probably 403 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 4: a free agent agent, then I'd go. 404 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I'd go Boba Shet. 405 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: He'd be the guy I want really number one. Yeah, 406 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: he's younger than all those other guys. I need to 407 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: get some youth on this team. And uh, you know 408 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 4: he's really good right handed back. 409 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: He'd he'd be my number one choice. 410 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I like I love the makeup, 411 00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: I love a lot of things. 412 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: The young man who would be yours? Who's yours? 413 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: Alex Bregman, but she's like four years younger. Really, I'll 414 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: give a ship. I like Glex. 415 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: I like I like him. 416 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: I like him because he's a winner. Yeah yeah, yeah, 417 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: I mean that's tough. 418 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: I I like uh, I like Boba che for the 419 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: same reason that he's younger. I like the fact that 420 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: he's a three hundred hitter. I like the fact that 421 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: you know he could maybe play some second, maybe play 422 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: some third. Obviously you can play some short stop. He's 423 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: not gonna play short Stoff. But either one of those 424 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: guys would be absolutely fantastic. But I like, you know, 425 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: definitely either of them would help. Okay, this is from. 426 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Well Het Alonso. 427 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: I need to figure out the other moving parts because 428 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: you know, I really want Schwarber back. 429 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: And now that's that there's my DH spot. 430 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 4: So if if if Schwarber goes somewhere else, if I'm 431 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 4: all in on Peter Alonzo, because now you've got a 432 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: right handed hitting DH who's going to pop the ball 433 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 4: out of the yard. And but you know, as they 434 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: currently stand, I probably would lean towards Boba Schett, And 435 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: the more I think about it, I probably stick. 436 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: And right at second base. And I know we both 437 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: like Stott. We all like Stott's defense. He might have. 438 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: Started short and put Turner in center. 439 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: A lot of things you do. 440 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: Hey, man, if if I had, if I had my brothers, 441 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: that's the way I would go. I would be Alonso, 442 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 5: I would sign but set and I would move all 443 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 5: those guys all over the place. I would take the 444 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: second basement and move them to short. I would take 445 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 5: the shortstop and put them in center. I would take 446 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 5: the first basement and put them in right. 447 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: And that's. 448 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: These are all. 449 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: That's what I would do. 450 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: But so without you know, I don't know that they 451 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 4: can do two big tickets, Bhett and. 452 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: Alonso. But I mean we've talked about they don't have sh. 453 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: I do like the idea of Boshett a second putting 454 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 4: started short and saying it's time to go to center field. 455 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: And solve a lot of problems out there. 456 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: Trey and Trey had a really good year defensively. Man, 457 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but that would solve a lot 458 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: of shit. 459 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah really, And this is from our buddy Pat Kritz 460 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: on Blue Sky And this is I don't know kind 461 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: of it's related. So, after talking through all the trade candidates, 462 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: free agent signings, potential minor league call ops, who is 463 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: the single biggest difference maker you think the Phillies will 464 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: realistically add to the big league roster in the twenty 465 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: twenty sixth season. Realistically, realistically, I don't know. How realistic 466 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: Bobaschett is or ale Fregman is depends on your point 467 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: of view. I guess I think it's realistic that they 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: could sign them. I guess does that mean realistically mean 469 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: most likely? 470 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 5: I think Bobashett is probably the most realistic. 471 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Guy they can get, believer of the big ticket guys. 472 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: With the addition of JT and bringing back Schwarber, I 473 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 3: think there's that. 474 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 5: I don't know if they have the budget to do it, 475 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 5: but that's the most realistic big ticket guy. 476 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean realistic could be like on a one 477 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: year deal you could or a two year deal, or 478 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: reliever on a two year deal. I mean, but I 479 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't we're thinking along those lands. We're 480 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: thinking bigger. 481 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: I actually think there is a and we talk a 482 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: lot about the budget and Dave Dombroski said, we can't 483 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 4: have a four hundred million dollar payroll. 484 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: That has to have to be practical about it. 485 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: And Schwarber's going to be a big ticket real Moto 486 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: is going to be a significant ticket. But if you 487 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: kind of look at this where if if they could 488 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: move a ball, that'd be like a ten million dollar 489 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 4: savings if they could move a stop. I'm not in 490 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: a hurry to move them, but I'm just saying, if 491 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: that could be like a seven million dollars save, they're 492 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: bringing back Alvarado thunder from the left side, maybe that 493 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 4: puts a guy like Matt Strom in play. 494 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: Another was that seven and a half million. 495 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: So there is ways to shed some payroll, get some flexibility. 496 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: Then it becomes up to ownership, as they have done 497 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 4: in the past, to react to a particular opportunity and 498 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: inch it forward or nudge the payroll forward and try 499 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 4: to make that opportunity happen. I've seen it happen before 500 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: when Ruben was there with Jim Tomy, that was the opportunity. 501 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: He nudged it forward. 502 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: More recently, Nick Castiano's he's still out there. Dave goes 503 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: to John and says, hey, we can get this guy 504 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 4: for a twenty million per boom. 505 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: They nudge it forward. 506 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 4: Suppose they can clear a little bit of payroll and 507 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: then you can nudge it a little bit, get a 508 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 4: guy like Burshett, and then next year you got thirty 509 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: eight million coming off the books in just two players. 510 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 4: In just two players, maybe it all becomes more palatable 511 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: or were a longer term, I don't know, but I 512 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: think it's certainly something worth thinking about. 513 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to swallow hard on this year because 514 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: every dollar you're over that fourth luxury tax number is 515 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: your text one hundred and ten percent. 516 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: So I then. 517 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: Players don't care where they get when they get their money, 518 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: so they could move the money around to sort of 519 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 5: make it more palatable. As you said, Jim, if Bushett 520 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: is a twenty million dollars a year guy for four years, 521 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 5: I'm just throwing out that number just just to chat 522 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: about it. They can give him ten year, ten ten 523 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 5: million in the first year and you know, twenty five 524 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: in the next three or whatever something like that, you know. 525 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the idea. 526 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 5: To try to give themselves a little relief cash wise 527 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: in the first year. 528 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: So this is this is related, uh dovetails and I 529 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: think the post two two four baseball on X. The 530 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: estimated payroll for the Phillies in twenty twenty five was 531 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety point three million. For twenty twenty six, 532 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: does that number go up, up, down, or stay close 533 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: to the same. 534 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: It's gonna be three hundred million, three ten. 535 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: I think that goes up. 536 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 4: I think they've already indicated it's gonna have to go up. So, yeah, 537 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 4: it goes up. 538 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I want to win. 539 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: It's gonna go north. 540 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to go north. I mean, especially because 541 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: Schwarber's gonna be making more money. You know, JT's not 542 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: mean his av might be done a little bit, but 543 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: they still have other things that they need to do. 544 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, I think it's there's no way 545 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: it goes down. There's no way it goes down. 546 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: I don't think. 547 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 5: I don't think that they're gonna be able to justify 548 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 5: that and think that they're gonna be. 549 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: Able to win. 550 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see here, balgo boom on X. Why do 551 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: you think Dave stops spending as much money in free 552 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: agency after twenty twenty three. From twenty twenty three to 553 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: twenty three, they got cast, Alan, Schwarbers, Strom, Walker, Tree, Turner. 554 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: Since then, their free agent offseason signings re signings have 555 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: been Maorfield, Nola, Kepler, Romano, et cetera, et cetera. 556 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 5: It's economics, one oh one, bro, Yeah, exactly, that's exactly 557 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 5: what is. 558 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: I think he was told last year, you can't go 559 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: much further north, and so. 560 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: By payroll. We should be good enough. 561 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: And in that timeframe they did Wheeler and Nola too significant. 562 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: Uh you know contracts. I know they were in house, 563 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: so it doesn't feel like they made the big splash, 564 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 4: but they made so many big splashes leading up to it. 565 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 4: There's only so far you can go. 566 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 5: So they're not Steam Cohen, and they're not the Yankees, 567 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 5: and they're not the La Dodgers. It's as simple as 568 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 5: that they can't drive the revenue that those some of 569 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 5: those teams can drive. 570 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: Right. 571 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: Schwar bomb on X is not happy with Dave. Dombrowski says, 572 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: we see the Dodgers went back to back and yet 573 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: still rumored in every big trade free agent aside from 574 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: Duran and Jesus Wizard to why has Dave done nothing 575 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: to improve this team? Feels like he's gotten complacent with 576 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: fringe pieces instead of trying to put them over the top. 577 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think you can definitely say 578 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: that they whiffed last off season. Other than Lazard or 579 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: the three free agent signings, none of them worked out. 580 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: And anytime you sign a guy in a one year deal, 581 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: you are rolling the dice. There's a reason why you 582 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: can only get him on a one Why you're signing 583 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: him to a one year deals because there is a 584 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: ton of risk involved. And they went over three. They 585 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: went over three and all those guys and I know 586 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: Max Kepler did okay toward the end, okay ish, but 587 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 2: Romano was a bust. 588 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: Joe Ross, you were absolutely right. 589 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 5: Oh for three we all thought that they were going 590 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 5: to be contributors and they really weren't. 591 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, if you're if you're gonna limit 592 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: yourselves to guys on one year deals, it happened. Yeah, 593 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: that's why that's called low risk, high reward. A one 594 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: year deal, low risk, high reward. 595 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: So he didn't reward. 596 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: They did not reward the Phillies. Jesus Tizardo rewarded the Phillies. 597 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: Uh, I don't. 598 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: I'd have to look deeper in this, but h M, 599 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: I think the name is em Shiatis four on Instagram 600 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: says what kind of contract do you think Jesus WIZARDA 601 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: will command next offseason or even this offseason? If they 602 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: think about signing him to a contract extension. 603 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: He'll be watching, you know. I think it's going to 604 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: be determined. Why what kind of year he has in 605 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: twenty six. You know he's Ruts, but he's rooting for Ranger. 606 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: Jesus Zarda is. 607 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: Going to be rooting on Ranger going. I think he 608 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: should hold out a little. 609 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: Longer, buddy. 610 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna be watching Rangers deal and any applicable lefty. 611 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 5: He's going to surpass Rangers deal if he comes up 612 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: with another one. 613 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: Hundred ninety innings. I will tell you that. I'll tell 614 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: you right now. He will surpass Range. Whatever Ranger signs 615 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: for this year. If he throws one hundred and. 616 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 5: Ninety innings or one hundred and eighty five innings and 617 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 5: is healthy at the end of the year, he will 618 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: surpass Ranger Schwaz's deal. 619 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: It just say, for instance, Ranger gets six years, text 620 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: Hayesus around Christmas time and he goes, hey, I got 621 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: six years one fifty on the table from somebody. Hazus 622 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: is gonna text him, met go, I think you should 623 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: wait a little longer. See if you can squeeze a 624 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: little bit more juice out of that of Orange. 625 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: My man, he's gonna. 626 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: Want You're right though, guys, he is Ranger swore as 627 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: his biggest fan this winter. Okay, uh, I think we 628 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: know the answer that I'm gonna ask you anyway, because 629 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: I do have a lot of I run into a 630 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: lot of people and they do ask me about this still. 631 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 2: So this is from teacats three deuce on threads. Do 632 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: you believe Bryce Harper plays for the Phillies next year 633 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: or is his relationship with upper management torn with the 634 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: somewhat truthful comments made about his performance last year? Do 635 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: we have anything more to say about Bryce Harper and 636 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: Dave Dombrowski? 637 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: And you know, is this a contract? 638 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: Just dead dead? 639 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: He's already designing his opening day spikes, his fanatic themed 640 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 4: opening day spikes. 641 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: Let's not forget he has a tattoo, a fanatic tattoo 642 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: right here on his uh on his left arm. Yes, 643 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: he's He's gonna be in Philly next year, and I 644 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: think a lot of that stuff will blow over, especially 645 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: especially if Dave has a big off season and gets 646 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: him some protection behind it. 647 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 5: Do you think that first Harper press conference is gonna 648 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: be like in clear Water in front of all the 649 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 5: palm trees? 650 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Exactly? 651 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: That might be one of the first questions asked. 652 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Are you happy here? 653 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: No doubt about. 654 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: Exactly? Was this a contract? Dispute. 655 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: Okay, oh let's see here. 656 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think it. I don't think it had. 657 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 4: Dave's comments had anything to do with the contract totally, 658 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: because because this contract extension, if it ever comes, it's 659 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: between ownership Bryce and his agent. I think it's past 660 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 4: the GM President of Baseball Operations level. I think it's like, Okay, 661 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: this is your baby. That's why I don't think there 662 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: was any conspiracy that Dave went down there and was 663 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: trying to subtly send a message about a potential extension. 664 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: I think it's above. 665 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: Him, absolutely one. Dave did not go out there that 666 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: day at that press conference and go I'm going to 667 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: ding Bryce because there's a contract dispute about this contract extension. 668 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: That is so dead wrong, nuts wrong, dead nuts wrong. 669 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: It had nothing He was being honest, candid, however you 670 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: want to call it. It had nothing to do with them. 671 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: You know, Scott called me up yesterday and says he 672 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: wants a three year extension, and I'm going to go 673 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: and rip Bryce to send him a message that this 674 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: extension is not happening. 675 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 3: Could not be. 676 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: Scott wouldn't call Dave on that. 677 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: Exactly right, And he's going to the big man upstairs. Absolutely, okay, 678 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: let's see a. 679 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: Few more here. 680 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Oh, this is people kind of forget he's on the roster. 681 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: This was l DS Arabia seventy one on Instagram. Is 682 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: Johann Rojas worthy of another shot? 683 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 3: What does Johann. 684 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: Rojas stand if the Phillies get rid of Nick Castianos, 685 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: either they trade him or release them. There's only three 686 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: players listed at outfielders on the forty men roster a 687 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Brandon Marsh, Weston Wilson and Johann Rojas. I mean you 688 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: could throw Otto Kempen there as well. 689 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 5: Four fourth outfielder fourth or fifth outfielder fifth for me, Yeah, 690 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 5: there you go. 691 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 2: Guy can run down the ball, maybe steal a bag 692 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: late in the game. 693 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: Good pinch runner. 694 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 5: He's having another pretty good year in winter ball. So 695 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 5: and you may be able to move him for somebody. 696 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: You never know, Yeah, you never know, exactly right. What 697 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: is the plan if Painter and Griff McGarry make the team. 698 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: This is from Mark Lockhart on Facebook. He says, I'm 699 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 2: sure they will make the team. I think Andrew Painter 700 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: will make this, but I'm not sure about Griffin. 701 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 3: Of them are going to make the team. 702 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 4: The plan if both of them make the team is 703 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 4: to do backflips, because that means they threw the crap 704 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: out of it in spring training. 705 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: They look great. 706 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: But Griffin is not going to make it as a starter. 707 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 5: Let's the scary part about it, as that would scare. 708 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: Me if he's making the team because that means people 709 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 3: are breaking. 710 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 711 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 4: But if he comes down there and throws in the bullpen, man, yeah, 712 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 4: in the bullpen. That's what he's really right now. But 713 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: it's time to find out, you know. If he can 714 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 4: get here, that would be great. 715 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: That would be great. 716 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: If he strikes and they have confidence that he can 717 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: make the team. That doesn't mean to stay on the 718 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: team and be effective, but that'd be great. 719 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: Be great. 720 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: If he he finally could be great, Toy could get 721 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 4: something out of him because it isn't unbelievable. 722 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: Can hold him off until Gage is ready. 723 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: Gage would Oh yeah, there you go. Go check out 724 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: our episode again. Last Friday, Baseball America's Josh Norris talked 725 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: a lot about gauge Wood. Says he's kind of a 726 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: I think the word was he's a in a good way, 727 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: a psychopath. 728 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? I love it. He's like in a 729 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: good way, in a good way. 730 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: And again it like Max Schuser in a good way psychopath, 731 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: gauge Wood psychopath. So that that can be good if 732 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 2: you harness the psycho in. 733 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: You properly and you and you channel the path. Yes, 734 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 3: exactly right, exactly right. 735 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: Okay, a couple more. Oh, this is from Flips to 736 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: Stock on Blue Sky says, what does Reuben mean when 737 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: he says they've been quote the Phillies have been quote 738 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: operating over budget. Did the Phillies actually lose money this year? 739 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: Yes, the answer is yes, hundreds of millions. 740 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 741 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: I mean I've been told that have. 742 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: Been for many years. 743 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 5: As far as just written you know, bottom line numbers, yes, 744 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: the value of this franchise continues to increase, so you can. 745 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 3: You know, you can argue one way or another. 746 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 5: But as far as cash is concerned, concerned actual money, yes, 747 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 5: they've been losing money. 748 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: Losing and that's why that's why you you know, they're 749 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 2: not the Dodgers, they're not the Yankees. And so when 750 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: you're talking. 751 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 5: About costs are enormous compared to their revenue, enormous. 752 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 2: Enormous, ginormous. Okay, And then this is this is one 753 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: from our friend six, though, he goes he wants to know, 754 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: what do we haven't heard from six in a while? 755 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: He says, what do we think? What do we what 756 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: do we think about Trey Turner's likeness in this Hallmark 757 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: Christmas ornament? Look at this Christmas ornament? 758 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 4: He saw, So you gotta cookies or something that's fighting 759 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 4: mid Jim, But look at the face. 760 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 2: Does that look like Trey Turner? 761 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: Do you like? Looks like else? It looks like it's 762 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: like that Reuben like me. 763 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm thinking? Uh, it might look like six. 764 00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: What is it? 765 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: Oh, Jim's putting on his glasses here. 766 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: It looks a little like Kevin Stalker. 767 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: Now you know what it looks like. 768 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: It looks good. 769 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 3: It looks a little Ja, a little U Reese Hoskins fish. 770 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, looks like it looks more Reese. 771 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 3: I think they took the Rene mold. 772 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: I think they took the Ree mold. 773 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 5: Some of those some of those facial shots on some 774 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 5: of these bobbleheads and stuff are just. 775 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 2: Not Back in the day when the bibbleheads first came 776 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 2: out with just like generic person with the number twenty 777 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: sticks on the back and there's your Chase Utley, you 778 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 779 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 5: Or white guy and that's Chase, that's Chase Suley. 780 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: That's that's whomever it might be, Jeff Jenkins, uh, you know, 781 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: Shane Victorina, whoever, it might be the same, same type 782 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 2: of guy. 783 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: So all, Aaron Nola, y'all. 784 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: Throw goatee on the guy at the guy's gotta go. 785 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: We're done that. We're done with it. Okay, that was fun. 786 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: We will be back later this week. We're going to 787 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: talk about you know, Dave Dobrowski's going to talk to 788 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: reporters in Las Vegas at the GM meetings. I'm sure 789 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 2: he's going to have loads of interesting things to say 790 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: and maybe some news will come out of it. We 791 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: don't know, but we'll be back later this week. 792 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: To talk about it. 793 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: Smell you later, boys, Smelly James. 794 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 795 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: Territory Network. 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