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Speaker 1: I Am all In.

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Speaker 2: Let's you.

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Speaker 3: I Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one

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Speaker 1: eleven productions. iHeartRadio, I Heart Media, iHeart Podcast Season one

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Speaker 1: episode to Loralized, First Day Chiltern. And we have a

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Speaker 1: very very special guest with us today, one of our favorites.

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Speaker 1: She portrayed the incredibly sympathetic Lane Kim Keiko againa is

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Speaker 1: here with us this morning. Paiko. Hello, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us. It's always good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Scott.

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Speaker 1: How have you been.

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Speaker 2: I've been great, busy.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to be here with you today to share

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Speaker 3: this time and space together.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we're joined with one of fifth of the

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Speaker 1: Intrepid crew. But man, it feels like one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Tire Soud. There you go. How you doing, Tara, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I love this episode. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Huh wasn't this great?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It was great?

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Speaker 1: Isn't this great? It's like these first two episodes are

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Speaker 1: just perfection. Everything about them was perfect. I mean talk

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Speaker 1: about talk about setting the trend here, laying down the

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Speaker 1: first two episodes and now I can see if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't already clear to me, And now I can see

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Speaker 1: why the fans or why people who watch this show

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Speaker 1: created this really strong, viral kindind of word of mouth

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Speaker 1: and you know, telling their friends, and it just spread

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Speaker 1: like wildfire because it was just so darn good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel like all of the elements that

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Speaker 3: you have throughout the entire series are all just kind

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Speaker 3: of embedded by by episode two, I was.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised too, just what.

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Speaker 1: A what a strong first two episodes, because it's all

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Speaker 1: laid out for you. We're already into the conflict, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking, you know, there are four

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Speaker 1: characters already established that have I mean, you're only your

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Speaker 1: character is only as strong as your antagonist. Who's your antagonist? Right?

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Speaker 1: What do you have to do? What's pushing against you?

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Speaker 1: What's making your life difficult, and what's creating you know

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Speaker 1: that that arc for you and to overcome. And it's

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Speaker 1: obviously loral I with a mother, Rory with school, Laye

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Speaker 1: then you've got Emily against you know her her antagonist

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Speaker 1: is Laurel I and it's her own daughter. So it's

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Speaker 1: just so fraught with layers already. I think Luke, now

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Speaker 1: of something developing now. And you know, uh, he flashes

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Speaker 1: a bit of of of maybe not jealousy, but like

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of insecurity that

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Speaker 1: she got asked out on a date. But I think,

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Speaker 1: I think, really Luke's antagonist is probably his past and

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Speaker 1: himself as much as anybody.

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Speaker 1: And then it you know, obviously it's going to be Taylor,

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Speaker 1: but it's just so beautifully set up. All right. Let

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Speaker 1: me do a quick synopsis. Loreali oversleeps on the morning

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Speaker 1: of Roy's first dge children, and then she dresses as

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Speaker 1: waiting in the headmaster's office. Plus we meet Rory's possible nemesis,

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Speaker 1: Paris Gellar, her crew, and an additional cutie. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm just there. It is interesting. Who doesn't behave so cutely?

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Speaker 1: Does he?

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Speaker 2: No, how nice wordplay in that in that synopsis?

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Speaker 1: Huh, I try, I try?

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Speaker 2: Oh you wrote that synopsis of I.

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Speaker 1: Wrote, I write everything?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I apologize. I'm sure everybody else knows that, but

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Speaker 3: I think that's love.

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Speaker 1: I didn't write a word. I did not write a

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Speaker 1: word of it. I didn't even write. Directed by Arlene Sandford,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about your work in this, Kiko. It's further

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Speaker 3: Oh, besides incredibly excited, I think I was so.

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Speaker 3: I was just a bundle of nerves back in those days.

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Speaker 3: It's funny even listening to the music as I was

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Speaker 2: I remember, I don't know I think I.

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Speaker 3: Was just a bundle of nerves back in those days that.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the great opening scenes of the

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Speaker 1: entire running through you running with the the Apple Venus

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Speaker 1: Volume two and the I'm the man who murdered love

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Speaker 1: by XTC and you run across and scream it and

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Speaker 1: then Laurel I runs in. You guys start rocking out

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Speaker 1: and we see what a great opening. I mean, just like, sorry, sorry, Rory,

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Speaker 4: Was always a surprise to see what you were going

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Speaker 4: to do in these episodes, because I feel, especially in

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Speaker 4: the early seasons, it was like, what is Kim Lane

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Speaker 4: hiding from missus Kim Right? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Scott, but I was.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty much always surprised by uh, the scripts, delightfully.

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Speaker 2: Surprised, you know, my what would unfold.

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Speaker 3: I would always say that the thing about these scripts

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Speaker 3: that you would be surprised, and yet some part of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So like I love the jacket at the end

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Speaker 3: All right, oh yeah, go casually doing her changeling change

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Speaker 1: Dual Lives and overall, just staggeringly great performance by Lauren

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Speaker 1: Ye in these first two episodes, establishing that hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: many great jokes, you know, it just really sets up

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Speaker 1: these great sweeping shots of stars hollow and this is

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Speaker 1: that shot. So that's very very well established here. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Chilton. Let's talk about children, Kiko. You

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Speaker 1: didn't spend did you spend any time at children?

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Speaker 1: Did you ever go over there and deliver something to

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Speaker 1: something to go somewhere else? No, it never got there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so let's talk about Now we meet Paris,

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Speaker 1: and it's like whoa from your point of view, Keiko,

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Speaker 2: That's that. I love how strong Eliza leans into that.

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Speaker 1: Like now things are getting serious for our dear Rory.

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Speaker 1: Right this this this babe in the woods, this this

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Speaker 1: scene where they walk in and Emily's there. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love all the cowboy references.

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Speaker 4: Yes, people always dress up as Lorelei and Rory with

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Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like I don't even know if there

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Speaker 1: And that's all the all the Halloween cosplaying is pretty

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Speaker 4: It's just funny that she wears it as she continues

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Speaker 4: didn't just go home and change. She went to Luke's

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Speaker 1: Right right, right, So we're establishing a real, real antagonism

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Speaker 1: and both of them actually in her opening salvos in

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Speaker 1: So and also we meet Chad Michael Murray, We meet Tristan, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do who who you know? Do you do you

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Speaker 1: feel like he was given short shift or that he

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Speaker 1: be with. There's he's never seen anything like her. And

438
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: also there's like that sort of Romeo and Juliet aspect

439
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: of it, Like this is a rich girl from a

440
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: rich family, and I think everybody knows that. So she's different,

441
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: she's better, she's she's smarter, she's you know, she's not.

442
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't have the the temperament, the demeanor, the education.

443
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have the class she has, right,

444
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: And the irony is it turns out he kind of

445
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: does in a way in certain areas. But just a

446
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: fascinating dynamic I thought between those two. And I just

447
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: love these early scenes. God, I love these early scenes

448
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: because I don't remember them, you know, and I know

449
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: three years ago we saw them for the first time.

450
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: I saw them for the first time. But man, I

451
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: just isn't she great? Though? I mean, but the thing

452
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: is is she gives you so much. She's giving you

453
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: so much you don't really have to do much, you

454
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Can you imagine two people like that?

455
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: You imagine if I was like that too, I mean,

456
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 1: it would too like I mean, it'd probably be entertaining

457
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: as hell, but it would be mayhem and like so anyway, yeah,

458
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: just man, she made it easy. She just made it

459
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: so easy to work, you know, And not that it's easy.

460
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta hold the line there and not.

461
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: What was difficult about working with her is you just

462
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: wanted to bust out and laugh at times. You know,

463
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: you wanted to you wanted to engage, you wanted to

464
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: have that much fun on acting. But you mean, no, no, no, no, no,

465
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: no no, it's not your job. Your job is to

466
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: do this. Do your job. Tell the story, Tell the story,

467
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Tell the story. I don't know, Okay, I I had him.

468
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I had a moment there watching this where I'm telling you,

469
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: I got a little emotional. I said, how did I

470
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: end up in the show? I mean, I just felt

471
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: so lucky. It's like, wow, look at this. All right?

472
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: So now we go back. Oh, and plus yet I

473
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: think it's the first time we see him. Is it

474
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: the first time we see him in flannel? Oh?

475
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

476
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: When we're in flannel on the pilot?

477
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I was no, I was in a I was in

478
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: a denim, denim and a backwards baseball camp and then

479
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: was I in flannel the first time you see me.

480
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: I remember, No I was in that. I thought I

481
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: was in that denim.

482
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 4: Right, it was denhim in that very first seeing which

483
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 4: comes in from coffee in the pilot.

484
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Right, it's denim, isn't it. If I'm not mistaken, But

485
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: I think maybe this is the Maybe I could be wrong,

486
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: but maybe it's the first time we've seen it in flannel. Yes,

487
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: it was denim. Okay, we have that confirmed from a well.

488
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: A couple of iconic outfits then established, right, yeah.

489
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: Right, and then there the green but it was green.

490
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: It was like it was yeah, we have to wait

491
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: for that moment, yeah, right, when when Laurali crowns me

492
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: Luke right with the blue hat. All right, So now

493
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: we go now we meet uh, well, we've met her before,

494
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: but now we go back to Miss Patty's impressions of

495
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Miss Patty.

496
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: Oh, I love her.

497
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Love it.

498
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: The thing about that character. She can say so much

499
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: with just you know, a cigarette and one line. Right, definitely,

500
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: once we get over because Sally and Mortar established this

501
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: episode two right.

502
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: Right right as their neighbors.

503
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miss Patty just has it in her body, like

504
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: her whole history is in her body, in the way

505
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: she speaks, in the way she looks at people, right,

506
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: the way she dangles that cigarette. It's just she's she's fabulous, right,

507
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: She's like a she's like a theater fabulous person, a

508
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: dancing fabulous person. Right. And there's a bunch of little girls.

509
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: Uh And it's just it's just established a stars Hollow

510
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: as a very very place, in a very charming place.

511
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: And she's h she's being a little nosy about uh

512
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Rory going to Chilton. Uh so we so we now

513
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: we're starting to see as an audience, Oh, this place

514
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: you know of ninety nine hundred people, which is a

515
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: little larger than I thought it would be. That would

516
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: be more like in the four thousand range, the three

517
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: thousand range.

518
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was that sign in the scenes.

519
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Right, ninety nine hundred people. I don't think we ever

520
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: saw that sign again.

521
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: No, because I think that shot was well, I think

522
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: it was shot probably from the pilot when you guys

523
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: did in Canada, right, because it wasn't It wasn't the

524
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 4: back lot.

525
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't.

526
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: No, if you actually go back to it, it looks

527
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: completely different.

528
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: So it makes sense now.

529
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 4: I think it was just like an establishing shot they

530
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: threw into this episode.

531
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: But I guess, I guess ninety nine hundred people in

532
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, outside of metropolitan areas like Hartford and New

533
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: Haven and places like that that are far more populard,

534
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I guess ninety nine hundred. It's still considered a small town. Yeah,

535
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: it is. It is. That's a small town, let's face it.

536
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: But we're now we're seeing that everybody is involved in

537
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: everybody's life. We established it. This is an element of

538
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: small town life, and this is what we have in

539
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: store for the audience, Like this character is going to

540
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: get know your business. Everybody's going to know your business.

541
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: And it seems like the central hub of where the

542
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: gossip may take place might be Luke Steiner because what

543
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: a perfect place for that to occur.

544
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 4: Okay, So Scott, I know you know this because we've

545
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: talked about it. But Keiko, there is a clown pillow

546
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: that has made an appearance throughout the entire series, and

547
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: as someone who's watched the show many many times, I

548
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: don't pay that much attention to details, so it wasn't

549
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: until this podcast that I like found out. But it's

550
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: pretty like a pretty straight on shot in this scene,

551
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: did you notice it or when it was happening? Did

552
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: you know about a clown pillow going around on set?

553
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: That's usually a Laurelize house.

554
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: I did not know. And when when Lauren's in a scene,

555
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much just looking at her. Yeah, it's hard

556
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: to look away, right, So this clown.

557
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, this clown pillow shows up in other people's houses.

558
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: No, it's usually a Laurelize, but it was like place

559
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: in different places. But it's been in like dozens of episodes.

560
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: Like it's like it's like a thing, like people look

561
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: for the clown pillow. So I don't know if, like

562
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: maybe when you were filming a scene in Laurrelized house,

563
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: you ever noticed a clown pillow?

564
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Were there? There are a lot of fans out there

565
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: that can recite to you chapter and verse from memory,

566
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: what episode, what time stamp, what scene it was when

567
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: the clown pill appeared, they can say, and they can

568
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: just sit there and list it all right in front

569
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: of you. You know, it take some ten minutes to

570
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: do it, but they do it, and it's amazing. Yeah,

571
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: that's that's how dedicated these fans are. This how many

572
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: times they've seen this show and this is how much

573
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: they pay attention. Oh yeah, it's amazing. And there they're

574
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: always asking me questions that I don't have the answers

575
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: to watch the show. And they've seen these episodes, you know,

576
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: literally dozens of times, if.

577
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: Not more, you know, pretty impressive.

578
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: It is impressive because I'm sure, I'm sure there's people

579
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: that just sort of they have their favorite episodes and

580
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: they watch only those episodes for a while, and then

581
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: they'll sort of like try to watch the other episodes

582
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: that aren't their favorite episodes. It'd be interesting to take

583
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: a poll how many people just watch your favorite episodes

584
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: versus people that will, you know, sort of dogmatically watch

585
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: in order and that's the way they want it them.

586
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious.

587
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: So let us. I did see something on Instagram that

588
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 4: listed every Fall themed Gilmore Girls episode, So because of

589
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 4: like you know, people want to watch in the fall,

590
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: you can just jump around and I'm like, I didn't

591
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: realize because like there's different.

592
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: Like oh I saw that too, Yeah, you like they.

593
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: Have different events like in like by the Gazebo, and

594
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I guess it's just fall themed. So

595
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: it's funny, all right.

596
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: So we're Chilton. Paris is sitting in front of U

597
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: in the front. She's answering every question correctly with a

598
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: little bet of sass. I would say, self satisfied sass.

599
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: Tristan walks in and uh, he makes quite an impression.

600
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: He stares at Rory, ask a friend who she is,

601
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: and this is the first time Is this the first

602
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: time we hear Mary?

603
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, hey, Mary.

604
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: Kind of deal calls her Mary.

605
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: Uh.

606
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: And Roy seems a little bit worried about the work

607
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: she's given, right that this giant folder, this giant notebook

608
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: filled with her class assignments, and her teacher says, well,

609
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: this is just sort of the outline. You're gonna have

610
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: to get the details, and you know, ask somebody to

611
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: borrow their notes, and she's like, whoa, okay. And then

612
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: Paris introduced herself and establishes that she is the head

613
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: girl in charge of that self styled prison, I guess

614
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: if you want to call it. And it doesn't seem

615
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: that Rory is at all flustered right now or care

616
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: about any of Paris's antics. So we meet Paris. We

617
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: meet a very crucial piece of this of this of

618
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: this dramedy, who will influence things greatly, and I mean,

619
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: what a great arc. All right, let's go to the

620
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Independence in Ah again. We're in the kitchen, right.

621
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: Scenes are so fun.

622
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: The kitchen scenes. Yeah, and this is the first time

623
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: we see Jackson and they're yeah. And what about all

624
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: these great shots they have of rolling the peach to

625
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: decide if there's too much water in it. I mean

626
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: the putting the camera on the ground and rolling a

627
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: peach toward it, all this great stuff. What do you

628
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: guys think of this scene in meeting Jackson for the

629
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: first time, what'd you think?

630
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: I thought it was fun. It was like that establishing

631
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: shot of the community that's at the Independence in and

632
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: you know, giving I think Suki's character a little bit more,

633
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 4: a little more room to play as well.

634
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they kind of show the three

635
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: different ways people flirt, well, actually no four if you

636
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: count Tristan. So it's Jackson and Suki flirting with basically

637
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: arguing over produce. They have the you and Laurel I scene,

638
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: which is flirting but you know its own special type.

639
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: That the more obvious one where she's at Chilton, and

640
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: then the Tristan terrible flirting where he just makes fun

641
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: of her.

642
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: But I like that.

643
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's all different, there's every.

644
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: There's so many different ways that this kind of strange

645
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: male female dynamic can happen. And I like, I love

646
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 3: Suki in Jackson's way of flirting.

647
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very true, the different ways of flirting.

648
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm so used to them being together. I forgot that

649
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: they weren't together. In that episode, they realized, well, they're

650
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: not together yet. He's just like, yeah, he's sitting but

651
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: he's sitting close to her, and he seems to It's

652
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: like the thing is the acting so good that the

653
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: vibe is there already that they kind of like each other,

654
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: but they're not you know, they're not doing that yet.

655
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: So that's the impression I got from their body language,

656
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: which is, you know, that's you got a couple of

657
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: great actress in there. They'll do that. And uh uh yes,

658
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: all that foreshadowing. And and Lorelei is dressed to impress

659
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: today she changed uh and uh yeah, she got hit on.

660
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: She got hit on by the valet guy. And then

661
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: and then the chiltern dad shows up.

662
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: That's right. It's like you know, the bees are swarming, uh,

663
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, and and we we do get a wonderful, wonderful,

664
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: wonderful line ah from Drella. Oh yeah, do I look

665
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: like I have a stamp on me? It says Panasonica.

666
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: She's playing all this beautiful harp and people are just

667
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: surrounding her. Then she tips it ever, all right, that's lunch.

668
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: That was so funny, like it's a construction job.

669
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, it was such a.

670
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: Great just unbelievable.

671
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: I mean, man, I wish we saw her more in

672
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 4: that character throughout the series.

673
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, dear mad TV, I know, huh threw you man,

674
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, but I mean we did all right without her,

675
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: but with her, I just think, I mean, it could

676
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: have been a little funnier of a show, not that

677
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: it needed to be any funnier, but man, you got

678
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Drella and the Independence in if.

679
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: You had Drella with Michelle, just going back and forth

680
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: through the whole series, actually of them you got.

681
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: You got the you got the Suki in the kitchen

682
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: with the comedy, you got the Drella, you got the Michelle,

683
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: you got Laural Anson. I mean it's like, come on,

684
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: you'd never want to leave the Independence in so great,

685
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: so great, and then the chilt and Dad shows up

686
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it puts on the full court

687
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: press there.

688
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: That was quick. He didn't go to work, he just

689
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 4: went He dropped off this kid and went to the Independence.

690
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean of course. I mean you

691
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: meet somebody like that and the ViBe's there, Yeah, you're

692
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna show up. He's like, uh huh uh yeah. And uh.

693
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: I love the fact that she respected Rory's boundaries here. Yeah,

694
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Not she got swept up

695
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: on it and swept up in it in the moment,

696
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: which was a little you know, inappropriate, you know. But

697
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,760
Speaker 1: still when there's you know, this sort of mutual attraction,

698
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard to resist it, I guess

699
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, especially somebody looks Lorelei. But

700
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, she kind of made up for it and

701
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: cleaned it up a little bit with like, nah, all right, yeah,

702
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: you're a chilter and dad can't do it. You could

703
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: tell she was tempted, but her daughter, you know, her

704
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: daughter comes first and it just makes you love her

705
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: even more. Right, good job, mom, way to go. But

706
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: he's coming back from China and he will return.

707
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: Yep.

708
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: All right, Now we get to the they we'll go

709
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: back to Chilton and her project is wrecked. Paris's project

710
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: is destroyed by Rory pulling on her locker and falling

711
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: backwards after not being able to open her locker. In

712
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing, I mean, they really wreck that thing. Man,

713
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: that thing just blowed it all over the ground.

714
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: I felt really bad for her. I'm like, oh, I

715
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: was taken. And also the fact that the teacher only

716
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: gave her one day to do it. She can't redo

717
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: that whole thing kind of felt I felt for Pars

718
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: a little bit in that moment.

719
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: A lot of glue, right, yeah, yeah, I mean she's

720
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: not going to be able to rebuild it from scratch,

721
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: She's got to blow it all.

722
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Also, did she just leave it on the floor for it.

723
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: Like glass?

724
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, did not address it at all.

725
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 4: Just it's so funny.

726
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: That's true to character, right, I mean that's how she

727
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: grew up, right. She probably never took a plate to

728
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: the sink and rinsed it off. She just left it

729
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: on the table with all the crumbs and all the Yeah.

730
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, we have that little tet tet

731
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: in the classroom, and the teacher and I odd very

732
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: wisely said all right, you two need to work together, okay,

733
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: since you broke it and you know you're gonna help

734
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: her fix it, and they gave her a day. Uh,

735
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: Paris wanted nothing to do with that. She didn't want help.

736
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: She kept telling Rory to shut up and that was that.

737
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: So now we just keep building on this tension between

738
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: these two and it's wonderful to watch.

739
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: I also like the way Alexis played just like she

740
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: was just so overwhelmed. When she's like, do you go by,

741
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: are you Rory or are you LAURALI, she goes call

742
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: me whatever you want or like whatever she says. It

743
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: was just it was just played so well. And then

744
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: at the end the teachers like, by the way, we

745
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: have a new student, right right, right right, Like those

746
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: comedic moments in the element.

747
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: It was so lovely to watch because I hadn't seen

748
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: it for such a long time to see Alexis in

749
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: this from the beginning, because she had that wonderful vulnerability

750
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: and believability, you know. And if you think about also

751
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: just Alexis as a person's she's coming into this new city,

752
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: she's got this huge weight on her shoulders of being

753
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: the second lead in a show crazy hours. I mean,

754
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: I feel like there's probably some relatability to this episode

755
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: two filming, where you're going into this new school and

756
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: there's all these expectations and this, and I always thought

757
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: that was such a key thing about the series, but

758
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: seeing it in episode two and just watching how you're

759
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: drawn into Alexis because you believe her. I think I

760
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: believe her in this, and I care about I care

761
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: about her journey through this maze of a yea of

762
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: a school, and Alexis probably you know, in Los Angeles,

763
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: the city she's not, she hasn't been in before, you know,

764
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: navigating this whole world too.

765
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah. No, imagine being eighteen and thrown into

766
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: something like.

767
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: This, really, right, it's it.

768
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: I know that she didn't expect this level of work daily.

769
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: Who would, right, I mean who really somebody experienced in

770
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: the business would be like overwhelmed with it, like, oh boy,

771
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot, it's a lot. Their schedule

772
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: was terrible, it was, it was. I mean, if you

773
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: consider having like the two greatest jobs, maybe among the

774
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: two greatest jobs in the history of television, now that's

775
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: turning out the show as establishing itself, as you know,

776
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: deeply wove it into the fa fabric of pop culture

777
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: America and global society, and in the at least in

778
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: the entertainment side of things. But yeah, I mean the

779
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: price that those two had to pay in terms of

780
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: their their personal life and free time, they had to

781
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: donate all of that to the show. And yeah, I

782
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: think I think half the time she wasn't acting. It

783
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I am really overwhelmed with this, and yeah,

784
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do this. And

785
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm eighteen, and man, this is not what

786
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: I expected it to be. Like, you know, because you're

787
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: god eighteen, Remember when you were eighteen. It's a lot,

788
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: it's a lot farther away from me than it is

789
00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: for you two. But you know, eighteen is know, it's

790
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: fraught with fraught with a strong feelings and and a

791
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of energy and a lot of excitement about life

792
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: and you know, just beginning it. And that's the beginning

793
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: of your college experience, you know, and if you go

794
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: to college. And yeah, there she was an old pro

795
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers sixteen hours a day. So yeah, it translated,

796
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: it definitely translated into the work. Ah. All right, so

797
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: we go back to loops and a.

798
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: Lot of loops she having.

799
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: We kind of you know, look, we kind of went

800
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: over this already. But a pivotal scene, I think a

801
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: big scene between these two really really a pivotal scene.

802
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: Now we know perhaps what the stakes are or what

803
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: they potentially could be, that maybe Luke's candidate. How's this

804
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: gonna go? All right? So we pretty much talked about

805
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: this iconic line came out of this iconic wardrobe, iconic line.

806
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: You know, these are the characters, these two characters as

807
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: we remember them most fondly. Ah, all right, So then

808
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: we get to the auspicious debut of one Sean guns

809
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: as as Kirk, the debut of Kirk as Mick. Right,

810
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: but he isn't.

811
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: He's Mick Emily Why the change is so much different

812
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: than Mick? But I just.

813
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: This show. But here, here's the thing I love about

814
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: the show is that Amy is so loyal to people

815
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: that she's fond of, which was like all of us, right,

816
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: that she's like, I gotta have more Sean gun So

817
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't care like like I'm sure Warner Brothers or

818
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe people around and saying no, you can't

819
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: do that. He's been established at Mick, but she goes, no,

820
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: I want him as Kirk. This is this is how

821
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: I see him now. And she's stuck to her guns

822
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: and made him Kirk and does anybody care? No, It's like, yes,

823
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: do it.

824
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: I think there's also one more episode before he's actually

825
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 4: established as Kirk, like he's yeah, so there was like

826
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: there was like two or three where he's just a

827
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: random character.

828
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, just just beautiful. So Emily, uh, Emily's

829
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: being a little uh uh. I mean, she's being very

830
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: generous and she wants things to go well for Rory,

831
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's really insulting to Laurel. I

832
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: and it and it should be and and and she's

833
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: not liking it. And it's like, hey, man, you know

834
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I did the heavy lifting here with my daughter, and

835
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to do the heavy lifting because

836
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: it's not heavy lifting, it's just what I do. It's

837
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: how I love my daughter. And so uh Lorle I

838
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: bounced Nick, see you get out of here. And and

839
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: we meet we meet Babette and Maury and they provide

840
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: us with the information that the DSL installers kicked a

841
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: gnome in the head.

842
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 4: And there are so many gnomes in the yard too.

843
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: What a bizarre world we are in, right where you've

844
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: got and and Maury says, and you know, he kicked

845
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: a gnome in the head, and that's not cool. It's

846
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: not cool. Nothing about it is cool.

847
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: We know Maury knows what is cool and what is

848
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 2: not cool. By the way he is dressed, yeah, that's.

849
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: Right, right, you know, all black with black sunglasses and.

850
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: Glasses always regardless of the weather.

851
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's bounce back to Chilton, and now we

852
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: see Rory is seated next to Paris. And this is

853
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: where Rory sort of draws her sword a little bit

854
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: and says, look, how pointy and sharp this thing is, right,

855
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: answers a couple of questions about Martin Luther, who it

856
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: was and what year it was Martin Luther fifteen twenty,

857
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: and then we get the dirty looks from Paris. So

858
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: it's game on, man.

859
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: My favorite line, which is hello Mary. It was just

860
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: like the delivery. It was just perfect.

861
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good, isn't he. He was eighteen at the

862
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: time too. Wow, God, man, imagine being eighteen and being

863
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: able to do that. Well, I'm sure you guys can

864
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't all right now. A great scene, great scene

865
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: for Lauren and also firmly. But it's like at the salon,

866
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Lorel I storms in and just sort of tells off her.

867
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 4: Mom.

868
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: You know, I love I loved how she walked up

869
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: to the the contraption over Emily's head and knocked on

870
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: it like she was knocking on a door.

871
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: That's Funny's great. That would freak me out too, though.

872
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: It would be loud, right, yeah, And so now we

873
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: have Laurel I establishing boundaries, re establishing boundaries just because

874
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: you paid for Chiltern and I so appreciate that, and

875
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: you know I will pay you back. But don't cross

876
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: this line again. Mom, I'll make the decisions. We like

877
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: our slow internet. We get to dance around and build

878
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: an appetite and have some snacks and then we go

879
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: back to work. That's how we liked it. That's how

880
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: I do it with my daughter. Okay, so butt out.

881
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: And it was I thought, you know, Lourla I was

882
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: appropriately angry, and it's like now is the time. It's

883
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: like she couldn't contain it anymore. And we see that

884
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: Emily's a little embarrassed, and we are not used to

885
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: seeing Emily back on her heels. Even though we've just

886
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: met her, we can tell that this is not a

887
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: woman who has to be defensive. Ever, She's always got

888
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: it together, or she's on the attack in some way,

889
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: or she's plotting. So interesting dynamic. And as we've discussed

890
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: the pickup scene at She'll, where there's an iconic moment

891
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: where Rory just falls into her mother's arms and and

892
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: that is that is a very memorable scene, very memorable

893
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: physicality between mother and daughter which just collapses into her arms.

894
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Don't let me go, Mom, I'm not done yet. I

895
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: need more hugs. They both had horrible days, and this

896
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: is where we get the the good lines. And once

897
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: they get into the jeep about the Virgin Mary, why

898
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: is he calling me Mary? Well, he's because you know,

899
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: the Virgin Mary. And and but if I was what'd

900
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: she say? What if you? What if I was a

901
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: little more slutty and luralized this, well, that would be

902
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: a Magdalen. Biblical insults, insults of biblical proportions. All right,

903
00:55:54,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: So now we come to the iconic lane in Kim

904
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: in a fox a pink fox hoodie, foxy Foxy? Was

905
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: it fox or foxy? Taking a nighttime stroll with with

906
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: Lorelei and Rory, all having had pizza okay.

907
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: And just to eat two meals and multiple meals.

908
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: Tell us about that scene. Do you remember that scene? Keiko?

909
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: I do not at all.

910
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: Tell us anyway make something up.

911
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: Full night in Burbank to believe that I was Connecticut, Scott.

912
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: It was a brisk night in Burbank. I'll never forget it.

913
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: The salamanders had gone away for the day, the street

914
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: corner of the streets no longer hot.

915
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: The airplanes for some reason, we're not landing in Bourbon.

916
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: We had the quiet that we needed for that crucial

917
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: outdoor shot as we.

918
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: Did our mini wunner across the street.

919
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but it was it was a really interesting camera

920
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: position because you guys were in the distance. There was

921
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: some you know, there was some railings or or or

922
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: partitions in front of you, separating the camera and you guys,

923
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: and it looked like a movie shot.

924
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: There was.

925
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: There was a lot of movie shots in these first

926
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: two episodes. There's a lot of sort of film movie

927
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: shots in these Yeah, and I enjoy them so much.

928
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: And you guys will walk into frame and and uh,

929
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, you had your little easy friendship and breezy

930
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: nice time and the three girls enjoying each other's company

931
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 1: in pizza, and then we say you have to take

932
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: off your you have to take off your hoodie, you

933
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: have to take the ribbons out of your hair and

934
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: transform back into Lane Kim prisoner of Missus Kim.

935
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: I did sort of enjoy, well, definitely enjoyed the fact

936
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: that you know, they found a way to have to

937
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: have the Lane Rory relationship feel easy and just part

938
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: of the fabric of life that it didn't necessarily need

939
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: to be. That we went to school together, but we

940
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: were still close, right, and that home life would home

941
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: life being stars hollow. I guess is also includes Lane

942
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 3: is kind of.

943
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: Part of that fabric, which which I.

944
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: Loved and felt it was a way to I think,

945
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: keep keep that, keep that friendship and dynamic involved in

946
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: the show over time as well.

947
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, all these years later, it's amazing how deeply the

948
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: lame your character and Missus Kim resonates throughout that show.

949
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: It was a huge piece of that. Even though I

950
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: don't know that you guys, you know, you and Emily

951
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: had a ton of screen time, but but what you

952
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: guys did was just so h It's so deeply embedded

953
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: in me because it was just so good and it

954
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: was so thank you. I mean, it said everything. It was.

955
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: It was it was like, you know, this the difference

956
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: between cultures, and it was the you know, pretty much

957
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: the opposite of what uh Lorelei and Rory had and right,

958
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: it was just so moving and so powerful the work

959
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: that you two did together. And then to have a

960
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: nice relaxing stroll at night eating pizza in a small

961
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: town with your best friend and your and your you know,

962
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: your second mom. Almost really lovely scene, really really lovely scene.

963
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: All right. So Laura I says she had a Paris

964
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: in high school. I mean, this is after you go

965
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: back and you know you want the cross, give me

966
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: the crust? Can I have your crust? I have to

967
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: go to dinner now. My mom's I'm late for dinner,

968
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: all right, so you you take off and uh so,

969
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: Laura I tells her daughter, Listen, I had to Paris

970
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: and you'll be okay, And Rory Ashore's yeah, I'll get

971
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: through it. I'll figure I'll figure it out, mom. Because

972
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: mom says, do you need me to talk to anybody?

973
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: Hire a guy named Vinnie, what do you need? I'll

974
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: do anything, And she says, I'll handle it, Mom, don't worry,

975
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. And then they stop and they

976
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: take a look at Luke, who's cleaning cleaning a table,

977
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: and he doesn't see them, or so we think, and

978
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: they sort of spy him a little bit, and and

979
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: Laura I asked the question, what do you think? What

980
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: do you think of? Look? What do you think?

981
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 4: You think?

982
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: He's cute? And and and Rory's like, OK no, no, mom,

983
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: no we could. You can't date him. He's like, come on,

984
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: we'll ever be able to eat there ever again, because

985
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: because it's inevitable, it isn't gonna work out. That plays

986
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in our own mother's ability to

987
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: have sustained relationships. But but a very nice moment at

988
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: the end after they walk off and Luke walks out

989
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: of the diner and just looks after them like he

990
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: was aware and a little disappointed they didn't come in maybe,

991
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, very touching stuff. So again, episode two ends

992
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: with the diner yep, just like episode one.

993
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

994
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 6: Whatever the last and there's an un and then there's

995
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 6: an unanswered question, why does it say William's hardware because

996
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 6: we don't know that it's his dad's store yet, that

997
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: he inherited from his father.

998
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: We don't know that yet. Yeah, we see the Luke sign,

999
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: and then we see another Luke sign which is a

1000
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: smaller one on the other window on the opposite side,

1001
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: right on the left side of the door, that is

1002
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: a white light with red letters. And I don't know

1003
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: that it was in this episode. I'll go back and

1004
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: try to find out. But but there was also a

1005
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Lukes Diner coffee mug logo that became you know, the

1006
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: logo was on the Was it on the side of

1007
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: the dowa?

1008
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was treeway. It was like not in this scene.

1009
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 4: It was like I think it was one of the

1010
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: scenes where Laura I walked in and it was like

1011
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 4: kind of like established that that was It was like

1012
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: the coffee exactly what the sign looks like now, maybe

1013
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: just a different version of it. But yeah, it wasn't

1014
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 4: in the final scene though, when the camera zoomed out.

1015
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that this show is so meaningful to

1016
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: so many people, that that Luke's Diner logo has become

1017
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: iconic in a way that few logos are yeah, I

1018
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: mean people instantly they see that Luke's diner mug with

1019
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: the red letters, the yellow mug with the red letters,

1020
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: and the feelings that that evokes in people. Isn't that amazing?

1021
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: Just just stunning show?

1022
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: All right?

1023
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: So one tradition we're going to hang on to, I think,

1024
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: is how we felt about the episode. I don't I

1025
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: don't know if we want to rate them anymore one

1026
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: to ten or anything, but uh, keiko start out, what

1027
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: do you think of these this this second episode? You

1028
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: think it was?

1029
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I was really I was really touched.

1030
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: You know, it had been it had been years since

1031
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it. But even in that last moment,

1032
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 3: they were just talking about about how she asks Rory

1033
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: right at the end of the second episode about Luke,

1034
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,479
Speaker 3: you know, so.

1035
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: And and all of all of what.

1036
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: Happens with with Paris and just and of course the

1037
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: iconic uh Laura la Emily dynamic that is going to

1038
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 3: fuel the whole season for seven years. You know, it's

1039
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: all like I said at the top of this, as

1040
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: we were talking about the fact that all of it

1041
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: is there, you know, all of it is there in

1042
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: that second episode, right, just makes me love television. Not

1043
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: only love this show, but love television. The fact that

1044
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: you it really all of the elements are in there,

1045
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: embedded in the beginning, and if they're they're good and grounded,

1046
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: then we can go on a journey with these people

1047
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: and watch them, you know.

1048
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: For years, and it's a special, special thing.

1049
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm I loved it. So I don't know

1050
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: how you can rate love, but I love.

1051
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: The thing that's thrilling about for me watching these first

1052
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: two episodes everything you said, but that we get a

1053
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: glimpse inside Amy and Dan's brains and how this show,

1054
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: how they built the foundation for this show and this

1055
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: platform so all of these characters could grow and interact

1056
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: and thrive, and it's just it's like being on this

1057
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: awesome construction project that's going to sort of make the

1058
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: world a better place almost, you know, if you want

1059
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: to look at it that way, Because the show really

1060
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: has made the world a better place. It's really given

1061
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 1: a great deal of comfort to people. So watching these

1062
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: first two episodes is just I felt the same way.

1063
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: I felt very moved by it because I now know

1064
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: that this show, this little innocent show on this smaller network,

1065
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: has grown into something that nobody anticipated that nobody anticipated.

1066
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: It just sort of came out of nowhere. Just art

1067
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: is fascinating, isn't it just just art is unpredictable and fascinating. Yeah, anyway,

1068
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: I have one question.

1069
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if we're going to get this

1070
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 4: chance again. So sorry, Scott, I'm jumping ahead, But Keiko,

1071
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 4: I have to ask you. Recently, with Adam Brodie's show

1072
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 4: on Netflix, everyone's been saying Lane should have been with Dave.

1073
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 5: And absolutely, and everyone's like justice for David Galski. And

1074
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 5: I know we mentioned that, you know, Lane wasn't in

1075
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 5: every scene every episode, but what does it mean to

1076
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 5: you when that character and little moments like that means

1077
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 5: so much the fans? And it keeps coming up because

1078
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 5: I feel like we've talked about that character and that relationship,

1079
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,959
Speaker 5: and I guess two part question, what do you wish

1080
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 5: happened with that with that relationship? And too, what does

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Speaker 5: it feel like to have moments of the show come

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Speaker 5: back in your life?

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Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang I know I want to

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Speaker 1: leave this on a cliffhanger. That's a great question, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's an awesome question. I've been waiting. I

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Speaker 1: don't want an answer. You know why I don't want

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Speaker 1: an answer. She has to come back exactly, so when

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Speaker 1: we get to that fantastic day Vergalski stuff. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: coming back, Kiko, Okay, cool, yes, all right, great and

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Speaker 1: then look we'll address it then, Okay, all right, because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take up. You know, this has

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Speaker 1: been an hour and fifteen minutes for you, and I

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Speaker 1: know you got to get you got a life there.

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Speaker 1: But it always a joy to see you and such

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to see you act again. And we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time, you know, and have a great one

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Speaker 1: and we will see you soon. And thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on always. It's always special to see you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you you guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bye, take care, take go again. Everybody, all right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, that's gonna that's gonna wrap up Season one,

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Speaker 1: episode two. Thank you all for your loyalty and dedication.

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Speaker 1: We love you very much and remember where you lead.

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Speaker 1: We will follow hey, everybody, and don't forget Follow us

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