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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. We're here

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Speaker 2: this week to break down the Golden Bachelor. Yes, we're

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Speaker 2: one week ahead from going to hometowns and yes again

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Speaker 2: today we have an amazing grandma coming on to help

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Speaker 2: us break down this episode.

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Speaker 3: It's been fun, it's been exciting. And Ashley, how are

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Speaker 3: you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Ben.

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Speaker 4: You're in Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: I am in Hawaii. I am in Hawaii right now.

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Speaker 3: We're here for a few more days. In fact, today

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Speaker 3: our big adventure is we're going on.

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Speaker 2: A all day boat ride storkled tour and I hope

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Speaker 2: to see.

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Speaker 3: A big turtle.

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool? Is this vacation.

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Speaker 3: Kind of sort of it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It you know my you know about my golf tournament

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Speaker 2: that I talk about now for the next eight weeks

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Speaker 2: of my life, Orlando, Florida. Yeah, it's with Hilton, and

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Speaker 2: so that's a Hilton Grand Vacations tournament champion. So they

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Speaker 2: asked us to come down to Hilton Grand Vacations in

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Speaker 2: Hawaii to kind of see the property, and we obviously

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Speaker 2: gladly obliged, and so the four of us came down

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Speaker 2: to do this.

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Speaker 3: It worked out perfect.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't go to Bean's bachelor party, actually, and so

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Speaker 2: Dean and Kaalen came down because this is like his

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Speaker 2: bachelor party point two, except I've been in bed by

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock every night and I've been waking up at

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Speaker 2: five point thirty due to the time change.

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Speaker 3: So we've just been.

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Speaker 5: Chilling nice, very lovely. Do you see that it's a

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Speaker 5: place that possibly Gary could have his.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy sweet week? Is he gonna have a fantasy Sweet week?

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Speaker 3: He is going to have a fantasy season?

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Speaker 4: Is it really though?

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Speaker 5: Because Hometowns is just the top three, not top four,

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Speaker 5: and then we're gonna have narrowed down to two ladies,

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Speaker 5: and then you think they're gonna have overnights.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have Q.

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Speaker 2: I have some secret information, not a spoiler, not a spoiler,

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Speaker 2: because I do not know how this plays out, but

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Speaker 2: I do know they had fantasy suites.

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Speaker 3: And the reason is is there might have been a

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Speaker 3: little birdie that might.

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Speaker 2: Have asked if I'd be interested in coming down, not

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Speaker 2: to be a part of fantasy.

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Speaker 3: But to him in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how to say that.

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Speaker 4: Him through that week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even that sounds weird too to sit beside

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Speaker 2: him and hold his hand as he walks. Anyways, he

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Speaker 2: is going to have fantasy suites.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but I'm assuming it'll just be with the top two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's with two people.

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Speaker 5: My takeaway from this episode, I just like can't believe

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Speaker 5: he picked us over Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Like, Teresa is just too much for me.

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Speaker 5: She's just like, I know, she's being open and really

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Speaker 5: expressing how into it she is, but she's just a

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. So as you think about this, would you

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Speaker 2: have fallen more on the side of Kathy than Teresa.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, so I wasn't here when you recapped last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know neither of them. I could like

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Speaker 5: take totally seriously because they're just like kind of hilarious characters.

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Speaker 5: So I understand that he wasn't into Kathy as much

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Speaker 7: But I'm like, I don't know Ellen, and between Ellen

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Speaker 7: would have preferred to hang out with Ellen.

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Speaker 2: I guess, well, And I think it's there's so much

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Speaker 2: to what you're saying that's intriguing to me. One is

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Speaker 2: that you're invested, Like you are invested into each one

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Speaker 2: of these women, and you're invested in the Gary, but

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Speaker 2: like you can pull back each woman's name and their

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Speaker 2: maybe not for them through this season, which again to me,

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Speaker 2: is a mark of a really good season of The Bachelor,

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Speaker 2: Like we are watching something that we both enjoyed, that

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Speaker 2: we're invested into that you're saying, I can't believe he

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Speaker 2: chose so and so over so and so. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: not every season the Bachelor we feel that way, Like

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Speaker 2: usually we're kind of maybe not Usually there's been seasons

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Speaker 2: and this season, I think we're both deeply invested in

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Speaker 2: who he's choosing and why he's choosing them. I also

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Speaker 2: think Ashley, with what you're saying, we're seeing something interesting

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know all the top three like have well

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Speaker 4: they're burnettes.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I would say the Leslie and Tie says

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Speaker 3: The Leslie's and Ellen's.

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Speaker 2: Ellen feels like to me, she's not gonna she's not

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Speaker 2: like to me, somebody who wants to settle down, who's

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Speaker 2: going to be an incredible partner to somebody who wants

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Speaker 2: to be the support system. And these other women I

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Speaker 2: feel the same way about it. I'm not like, I

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Speaker 2: don't have any red flags about any of them, but

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Speaker 2: I do feel like there may be a little more

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Speaker 2: like Sponge. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well we got Diana, our Grandma of the Week.

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Speaker 5: In this in the studio, the Zoom studio right now,

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Speaker 5: so we want to bring her in and write into

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Speaker 5: this conversation. Diana, what is your take on Gary's top three?

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Speaker 5: Because we have Teresa, Leslie and Faith Now, I think

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Speaker 5: my personal opinion is that Teresa was the teeter tatter

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Speaker 5: and that he's really into Fad and Leslie what's your name?

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Speaker 6: Well, my belief all the women are terrific. I really

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Speaker 6: like the women. They're great. But there's only two. Truthfully,

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Speaker 6: there's only two. There's Faith and sorry I'm so good.

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Speaker 3: Leslie.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you know, and it's so true. They're dark hair.

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Speaker 6: They're dark hair, and believe me, I used to be

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Speaker 6: dark hair. And when you're older. When you're older as

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Speaker 6: an older woman, you know, being in my sixties, my

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Speaker 6: late sixties, you know, it's hard out there. So all

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Speaker 6: these women, they're so hungry, and I understand what they need.

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Speaker 6: And he's hungry too. But there's only two in the running.

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Speaker 6: The other girls are nice, but it's not happening.

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Speaker 3: So, Diana, thank you for joining almost in this podcast.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it means so much.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for inviting me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to hang out with us. A little

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Speaker 2: bit about you. How did we find you? How did

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Speaker 2: you get connected almost in this podcast?

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, well, Heather, which is you know, I'm an actress.

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Speaker 6: I'm an actress. I'm a jack of all trades and

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Speaker 6: pretty much a master of none. But I enjoy what

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Speaker 6: I do pretty much. So I'm original soul trained dancer

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Speaker 6: number one of the seventies right on magazine I have.

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Speaker 6: If you look up my name, Diana Brunner Puscis, it's

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Speaker 6: I'm a you know, it's pretty much. I was the

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Speaker 6: original soul trained dancer. And then from there, you know,

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Speaker 6: traveling modeling career in New York and then moving back,

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Speaker 6: getting married to a very distinguished guy who owned a

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Speaker 6: huge company in Orange County. And then I started acting again,

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Speaker 6: you know, and I my old girlfriend Queen Turner started

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Speaker 6: from the Icatina Turner family. She started Diva Glamas. So

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Speaker 6: that ended up you know, wrong studio, you know, but

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Speaker 6: that's Hollywood, and uh, it ended up being a year.

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Speaker 6: And beside that, I have a new movie which I'm

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Speaker 6: in and it's called Redemption, and holiday's Redemption and it's

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Speaker 6: It's going to be big. And he's also doing the

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Speaker 6: Cat Califwaey movie. I'm not in that one, but I

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Speaker 6: am going to do a cameo for that one once

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Speaker 6: it gets totally funded. So yeah, there's tons of exciting things.

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Speaker 4: So we don't have a grandma today.

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Speaker 5: We have a grandma, yeah grandma and a glandma.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, definitely a gladma because I have I have

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Speaker 6: a lot of grandkids and they're my step grandkids because

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Speaker 6: I you know, I was one of these women that

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Speaker 6: had the career first and then didn't have kids. But

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Speaker 6: it's okay. I have my husband, you know, my ex

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Speaker 6: husband's kids.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, love is love is love.

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Speaker 2: And right now today we're going to break down this

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Speaker 2: episode leading up into Hometowns. You are watching, Diana, You're

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Speaker 2: could have been competition as we are witnessing and being

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Speaker 2: able to criticize and celebrate these amazing people who are one.

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Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor. Let's kick it off from the beginning, Diana.

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Speaker 2: You know, this episode really started out with I think

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Speaker 2: for me an intrigue about faith, faith as a human,

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Speaker 2: not faith maybe as a subject. So faith as a

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Speaker 2: human I was curious about. We got to see her

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Speaker 2: kind of skyrocket to the top at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: this season. She was obviously one that everybody had their

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Speaker 2: in my opinion and I want to hear yours and Ashley's,

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Speaker 2: she took a big back seat for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the season. She hasn't really had a big role and

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Speaker 2: I didn't know where her relationship with Gary existed until

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Speaker 2: this episod. So how do you feel about Faith and

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Speaker 2: what do you think about their connection during their date?

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Speaker 6: Well, the very first date, there was definitely a connection

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Speaker 6: and he showed that. But then I just felt the

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Speaker 6: other ladies were very, very aggressive. They were extremely aggressive,

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Speaker 6: and you know Jewish girls, you know. My grandmother's Jewish,

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Speaker 6: so I know Jewish girls can be when they want

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Speaker 6: something go, they go after it. Let me tell you, so,

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Speaker 6: I think she kind of got she's a little insecure.

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Speaker 6: She's a little insecure, and she had to build up that.

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Speaker 6: Like I think if she would have been out there

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Speaker 6: probably asked her out a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: You said something when we started out here. You said

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Speaker 2: that these girls are hungry. Okay, so you said that

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Speaker 2: these girls are hungry. I would love for you to

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Speaker 2: explain what you mean by hungry and if that is

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Speaker 2: cautious of now being hungry.

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Speaker 6: It's basically, when you get older, you become invisible. You

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Speaker 6: don't you know, you don't get all the like the

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Speaker 6: looks like when you used to be like in your

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Speaker 6: forties or your fifties. But when you reach that threshold,

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Speaker 6: you know, thank god, you know, I take care of

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Speaker 6: my skin, so I could be in my forties. Nobody

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Speaker 6: would really know, but I know, I know, and it's

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Speaker 6: something inside because you've been around the corner so many

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Speaker 6: times and you just don't get that many dates when

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Speaker 6: you get older, you really do become invisible.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, So the hungriness is to have.

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Speaker 6: Well they feel, you know, they haven't done it for

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Speaker 6: so long, so it's wonderful to have a man in

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Speaker 6: so they're hungry. So I believe it's truly positive. I

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Speaker 6: try to keep my frequency extremely high, so I try

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Speaker 6: to just I give them all of them love. But

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Speaker 6: I just feel there's only two in the money.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. One of the things that I'm

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Speaker 6: No, I really believe these women they want marriage, because

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Speaker 6: So and I really believe that Gary, he's he's a

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Speaker 6: Just like he told the older lady, well, she's not

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he thought that she was not sexually up

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Speaker 4: You sure you don't think that you're reading into something.

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Speaker 2: Just like maybe if if you watched The Bachelor right now,

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Speaker 2: I do think we've all now agreed that Gary definitely

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Speaker 4: Certain kind of energy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like an energy that brings out a child like

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Speaker 2: And that's where I come to you, Diana. So you know,

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Speaker 3: Day, and so they can't do anything anymore. That's kind

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Speaker 2: So you know, with your friends and your group of

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Speaker 3: Because I don't think that has.

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Speaker 6: Right right, And plus you know, something society has changed,

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Speaker 6: They're out there doing the yoga. They're trying to help

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I think today a man wants somebody that

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Speaker 5: So this week was the second week in a row

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Speaker 5: don't want to hear about your date. I don't need

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Speaker 6: Well, personally, I'm just not a tell all type of

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you're wrong, and I do think

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Speaker 3: Yes, Susan definitely lit up the room.

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Speaker 2: You could tell that she kind of carried the way

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Speaker 2: They go to Santamonic Computer. They have a great time, right,

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Speaker 3: I am in love with you, and I see a

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Speaker 2: I believe that Gary was infatuated with this last week.

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Speaker 6: Back right, Well, don't that a little bit when they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you think happened. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: What do you think happened?

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Speaker 6: I just felt that he wasn't into it. I don't

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Speaker 4: You knew that wasn't going to happen with the two

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Speaker 6: You know, I really believe you know, man, I think

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Speaker 6: Exactly, I feel the same. So you know, I felt

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Speaker 5: by saying you're my girl, it's heavy.

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Speaker 6: Right, and he wanted to give her that sigh of

440
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Speaker 6: relief pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I I agree with both of you.

442
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Speaker 2: I do think that there's this element where right now,

443
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Speaker 2: you know, Gary's had a lot of fun and it's

444
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Speaker 2: been a great experience for him, and he's enjoying it,

445
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 2: and it's been fairly lighthearted most of the time, and

446
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: we've seen moments.

447
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Speaker 3: Of emotion out of him.

448
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Speaker 2: I think as any person, I think this is man

449
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Speaker 2: or woman who sits in the place of the lead

450
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Speaker 2: on this show. I do always find it interesting as

451
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Speaker 2: we get towards the end, you don't know how to

452
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: handle it, like there's no preparation for this where you

453
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: have feelings and you care and you you enjoy the company.

454
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: Maybe these are more friends at this point than a

455
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: romantic partner, but you enjoyed being around them, and you

456
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: feel this sense of well protection, You feel this sense

457
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Speaker 2: of desire to help them feel better and good about

458
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Speaker 2: themselves and good about the experience, and honestly fairly good

459
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Speaker 2: about you as a lead, and that they're happy that

460
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Speaker 2: you were the guy that you know was the one.

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Speaker 2: And so I think he's saying things at this point

462
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Speaker 2: because he doesn't see to repercussions that could exist in

463
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Speaker 2: two more weeks, just to help calm the nerves of

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Speaker 2: the situation. Similar to what I would say to a

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Speaker 2: girl friend of mine where maybe they're going through a

466
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Speaker 2: hard breakup and I would just say like these things,

467
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Speaker 2: kind of just speaking, maybe without knowing how it's making

468
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Speaker 2: her feel inside, Like you know, maybe you say this

469
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Speaker 2: stuff in college. College is a great example where you're

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Speaker 2: you know, you're holding somebody or caring for somebody who's

471
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Speaker 2: just gone through a breakup, and you're saying things like

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Speaker 2: you're so pretty, you're so beautiful, you are an incredible

473
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Speaker 2: human and yes, you're just comforting them. And I don't

474
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Speaker 2: think he realizes what the comforting may feel like in here,

475
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Speaker 2: Like it sound like to the girls that he's.

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Speaker 6: Dating, Well, you know, I felt that he's gonna bring

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Speaker 6: it down a notch. You know, he could probably make

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Speaker 6: her feel comfortable, and you know, when he gave her,

479
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Speaker 6: he could have given her false hope. But who knows

480
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Speaker 6: could have We don't know the ending yet, but I

481
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Speaker 6: can't wait to.

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Speaker 3: Know he wants.

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Speaker 2: You know, the cool part about Gary in this season

484
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Speaker 2: the Golden Bachelor is he's led his heart on the line,

485
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Speaker 2: and so yes, he's going to say things that are

486
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Speaker 2: maybe a little more dramatic and a little more emotional,

487
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Speaker 2: a little more comforting as maybe he should in a

488
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Speaker 2: moment because he's just doing his best to be fully

489
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: out there. He's not hiding and holding anything back, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think any of these.

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Speaker 3: Women have held anything back.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why I'm loving watching this show

493
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: is because it is all and real and it's gonna

494
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: be a little messy, and there's gonna be tears. But

495
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Speaker 2: at the end, hopefully he's with somebody and it all

496
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: works out out. But there is gonna be heartbreak, and

497
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: there always is. There always is, and so uh, these

498
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: are one of those moments where maybe yeah, when he

499
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Speaker 2: said you're my girl, maybe she is.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we ke ends up with her at the end, but.

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Speaker 2: If he does it, I do think maybe that is

502
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Speaker 2: going to add some pain to her life.

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Speaker 6: Yes, which yes, I truly believe that as well. But

504
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Speaker 6: you know, as women entering into a dating show, someone

505
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 6: has to get hurt unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: Now sure, sure, And that leads me into my next

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Speaker 5: question perfectly. We've never seen this many declarations of love

508
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 5: so early on, and this season is so much faster

509
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Speaker 5: than a typical season. So these women may be saying,

510
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Speaker 5: I'm valling in love with you within knowing this man

511
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Speaker 5: for maybe two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel at a.

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Speaker 7: More advanced age that you've fall in love quicker?

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Speaker 6: No, it's television, so you have to you know. That's

515
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 6: why they got on the show, because they have to

516
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 6: make a decision. But some women they feel that because

517
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 6: they need that need in their life and they want

518
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 6: that husband, they're just pushing the accelerator button, you know.

519
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 6: But for me, I couldn't after two weeks. You don't

520
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 6: know who the representative is. Is it the real Gary?

521
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Speaker 6: Is it the representative? Even though he seems like such

522
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Speaker 6: a great guy, and I think he's a hot looking guy,

523
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Speaker 6: I would definitely date him. I would love to get

524
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Speaker 6: dropped up in there and say, oh, we have one

525
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Speaker 6: more person.

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Speaker 5: I imagine that me in thirty years would actually take way

527
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 5: longer to fall in love right.

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Speaker 6: Exactly because we learn by our mistakes, you know. I

529
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Speaker 6: mean I got truly heartbroken when I left California. You know,

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Speaker 6: I was in love with the guy. He was a

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Speaker 6: you know, longshore man, good looking, tall, and sure enough

532
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 6: he was cheating on me, you know, So it's you

533
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 6: just gotta, you know, slow it down. But they don't

534
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 6: have much time. So that's why I think these women

535
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 6: number one, they want they want to mate. Can you

536
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 6: blame them? They're all beautiful women and they want to mate.

537
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 6: And I feel so bad, but I really believe it's

538
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Speaker 6: between Faith and Leslie for sure.

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00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Well that's where we're gonna We're gonna start to wrap here.

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Speaker 3: And Dana, you've been absolutely incredible to come on and

541
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Speaker 3: break down.

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00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: Your energy is obviously infectious, your smile is infectious. Uh,

543
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: and you have a great interconfidence and so with that interconfidence,

544
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: I do believe you have opinions and I would love

545
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: to hear from you and Ashley kind of how you

546
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Speaker 2: think this is going to play out with Hometowns and

547
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Speaker 2: then who ends up with Gary at the end after

548
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: her Hometowns? Maybe just the final two for now, since

549
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: that is kind of the step ahead. Uh, how do

550
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Speaker 2: you think Hometowns is going to work? With Gary meeting

551
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Speaker 2: the families of these three women who are obviously incredible

552
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: women who he's found a connection with. But now it

553
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: gets real other people get involved, which always brings a

554
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: different element to the show.

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Speaker 6: Right. Well, I believe that Faith, I'll put it this way. Faith,

556
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 6: she is She's deep, She's deep, and I'm sure her

557
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 6: family wants the best for her and they don't want

558
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 6: her to be hurt because being hurt it's hard, especially

559
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Speaker 6: when you get older, you know.

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Speaker 5: And she comes from a traumatic background now and oh goodness,

561
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: she grew up without parents, I know.

562
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Speaker 6: And her sister. I think it was her sister.

563
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we see more from her, We'll see more.

564
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 6: He showed her sister just so connecting with Gary. So

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Speaker 6: I think she's going to be the one. Truthfully, I

566
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 6: think she's going to be the one.

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Speaker 5: My gut as well, says Faith, And with obviously Leslie

568
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Speaker 5: being second.

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Speaker 6: Teresa's Yeah, Leslie's great, you know, I like her. She's great.

570
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Speaker 6: But no, I just feel that they have a very

571
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Speaker 6: very strong connection.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's why he just waited to have

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00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 5: a one on one with her until later, because it

574
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 5: was just obvious right.

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00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: Off the bat. But he did say last night that,

576
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: like right off the bat, it.

577
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: Was just a really strong physical connection and now he's

578
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 5: glad to confirm that it's both right exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Ashley, what's your what's your opinion towards the end. Now,

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Speaker 2: who do you think he ends up with?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: I think he's ending up with Faith.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would still say Teresa. Guys, my vote is Teresa.

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Speaker 6: Wait really really thinks so. Can you imagine she's a

586
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 6: little much every day?

587
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 4: I was like, are you sure? She's like the most

588
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: extra human being I've ever met? I haven't met her, but.

589
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 6: I still love to her. You know, it's her personality.

590
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 6: But I don't stand it.

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Speaker 2: You guys might feel this way, but I think Gary

592
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: is very attracted to the extra and I think he's

593
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: very attracted to the spark that she could bring and

594
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: that he sees her bringing.

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Speaker 3: To his life.

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Speaker 2: Because I think he I think every one of these

597
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: women have a little bit of Teresa in them, but

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Speaker 2: Teresa is the one that does it best.

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Speaker 3: And I said, my vote is still Teresa.

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Speaker 6: Now, well, I tell you she's a go getter and

601
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 6: she's she put it out there that she wants him,

602
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 6: so she's putting into energy out there. So but I

603
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: really believe he's either gonna be He's going to end

604
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 6: up with either Faith or Leslie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, there's votes out there, your your opinion as listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now for what matters, So make sure you message us

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Speaker 2: and tell us who you think Gary is going to

608
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: end up with. This has been an incredible season so

609
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: far of The Golden Bachelor, one that we had high

610
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: expectations for one that's fulfilling all those expectations. We have drama,

611
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Speaker 2: we have the jealousy, we have the love, we have

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Speaker 2: the connection, we have the friendship. Three more women were

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Speaker 2: sent home this week. We have three women left.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: It's getting more emotional, I would say, as every episode

616
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Speaker 2: continues for Gary, and we see that in the previews

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Speaker 2: for the next episode. Make sure you tune into the

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Speaker 2: Almost Famous Podcast next week as we break down another

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Speaker 2: episode of the Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be.

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Speaker 2: Here, excited to be here, and very thankful that Diana

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Speaker 2: has joined us today.

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Speaker 3: Diana, thank you for joining Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for inviting me. Ashley and Benn, I really

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Speaker 6: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 2: This has been another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We say goodbye to three women this week, Susan, Sandra,

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Speaker 2: and Ellen. We saw three women left walking into hometowns.

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Speaker 2: For next week, as we mentioned, we'll be back breaking

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Speaker 2: down another episode of the Golden Bachelor. It's hometowns for

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Speaker 2: the first time ever. But until next week, I've been Ben.

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Speaker 4: I've been Ashley. Bye.

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