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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get it all. How's it going to everybody? Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We're here every day

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<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday, New Psific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. Well, it's Monday here on the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot to get into here today. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not seen the g c W show, and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>the man to talked about this show is Mike semper

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<v Speaker 1>viv was there live. I got the results for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some notes talking about Nick Wayne. But Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking about g c W, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when, honestly, because he's still in the car right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently the train that he was going to take was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes late, and so he may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>be appearing on the show today. But either today or

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we'll get Mike's thoughts on the g c W

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<v Speaker 1>show live. So I'll talk a little bit about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a lot of details other than who beat

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<v Speaker 1>who in some notes, because in fact is noted I

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<v Speaker 1>was not there, but there's a lot of news talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>including COVID nineteen. New Japan's canceled all of their events

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the month as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen protocols w W E operating as if there

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<v Speaker 1>is no COVID nineteen. They no longer test anything of

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<v Speaker 1>that note, and they are bringing back n x T Takeover.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're gonna call it takeover. There's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be an n x T show over Russel Many weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Hall of Fame ceremony is back, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about that if you'reterest in going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. More notes from g c W Royal Rumble.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know the Royal Rumbles this weekend. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's Saturday? Apparently a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it is Saturday. We got the full lineup for

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal Rumble thus far, plus the participants for both

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<v Speaker 1>matches at this point, and the irony is they don't

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<v Speaker 1>got thirty women, but they have more women announced than

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<v Speaker 1>men at this point, so we can talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>The raw lineup for tonight, the A E W lineup

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<v Speaker 1>for this coming Wednesday, the Beach Break Show. We could

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Rampage, we could talk about SmackDown. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of stuff to get into, so we will kick

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<v Speaker 1>it off when get back from the break. Stick around

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<v Speaker 1>everybody back in a moment. Observer Live back of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Brand elbur is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mikes umber Viv

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<v Speaker 1>should be joining us later on today hopefully, If not,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it tomorrow. The g c W Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Tremont and Nick Gauge beat the Briscos in the

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<v Speaker 1>main event Tag Team Open Challenge for the g c

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<v Speaker 1>W Tag Team titles. John Moxley defeated Homicide for the

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<v Speaker 1>g c W title. Jeff Jard beat Effie Ruby, Soho

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<v Speaker 1>beat Alie Catch. We had Manson Warner and Matthew Justice

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<v Speaker 1>with Sabu and Bill Alfonso being Atticas, Koger Eddie Only,

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory Iron and Bobby Beverly met Cardona beat Joey Janella.

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Christian defeated Leo Rush. Team Gringo beat Team Bandido

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<v Speaker 1>A j Gray by Pco, Alex Colone, g Raver, Tony Deppin,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Lloyd and Jordan's Oliver in a grab the brass

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<v Speaker 1>ring ladder match. That was the pay per view opener.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Us, the show was on pay per view. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens when he shows on pay per view,

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<v Speaker 1>traditional pay per view, Well what happens is you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a pay per view window, and that means everybody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to hit their time cues. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>went wrong where, but to the main event with Tremont

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<v Speaker 1>Engage versus the Briscos went five minutes and twenty eight seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>just boom boo, boom, boom boom and then off the air.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, obviously nobody was happy about that, not the

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<v Speaker 1>least of which would be the Briscos, who in fact

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<v Speaker 1>went public with it. But that's what happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a pay per view window. The other big story

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of the show, there were many big stories,

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<v Speaker 1>but a couple of days ago, we're talking about this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we're talking about Nick Gauge. We're not Nick Gauge,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Wayne, the other Nick, the other bane of my existence,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Wayne, but Nick Wayne was scheduled to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the pre show match, which was scheduled to be Nick Wayne,

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<v Speaker 1>grim Reefer, Alexane Dante Leone, Shane Mercer, Jack Cartwheel and

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja Mac in a kickoff scramble match, and Nick Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>was not on the show. And somebody had asked me

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, how is how is Nick Wayne going

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<v Speaker 1>to uh wrestle in New York? He's sixteen? And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I mean he's gonna like they

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<v Speaker 1>booked him. They they're gonna fly him in. He got

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<v Speaker 1>new gear. I mean they must have a they must

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<v Speaker 1>have cleared it. Well, the commission became aware that Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne was sixteen, and Nick Wayne was not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>work the show. So anyway, he was off the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, his mom was there. I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>her reaction to all of this, but he took it

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<v Speaker 1>like a pro. Clearly was not happy. And in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Janella has now basically stated, you know what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want? Nick? Name your match? I will do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to get this match put together. And uh, Nick's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler for I don't even know how long, given that

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<v Speaker 1>he's sixteen, maybe most of his life has been will Osprey.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you watch Nick Wayne, you can't not see

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<v Speaker 1>that his idol is will Osprey. And so Joey Janella

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do everything in his power to put

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<v Speaker 1>together Nick Wayne versus Will Osprey. And if he puts

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<v Speaker 1>together Nick Wayne and Will Osprey, and uh, he does

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<v Speaker 1>everything has power to make this happen because of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened here on this show in the Hammerstein, that being

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Wayne going all the way, they're not being allowed

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to work. I would think that at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, Nick Wayne, we'll look back very fondly

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<v Speaker 1>on this day if this day ended up being the

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<v Speaker 1>day that resulted in that particular match being put together

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<v Speaker 1>for some point here down the road. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>story on that, and is noted Mike's simper vv is

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<v Speaker 1>on the road right now and if he gets back

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<v Speaker 1>in time, he will be logging in to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this show. Show to not get Rave reviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the stuff got Rave reviews. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the John Moxley homicide match Living Minister fourteen secents with

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<v Speaker 1>the g cble the world title, people were raving about that,

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<v Speaker 1>raving about other things of the show. Show completely sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an insane atmosphere. But as far as match

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<v Speaker 1>quality and timing, and I was told audio issues and

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing did not get to Rave reviews,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll get Mike's Mike's review when we can. About

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<v Speaker 1>the live show, he probably would be able to comment

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<v Speaker 1>on any of the production snaffoos, but I'm sure we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of text messages about that as well. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>two years of WrestleMania being affected by COVID at nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>this year's event is gonna look a little bit closer

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<v Speaker 1>to normal. W W announce to be the Dallas Morning

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<v Speaker 1>News that it is returning to putting on a full

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<v Speaker 1>slate of in person events during WrestleMania thirty eight week

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<v Speaker 1>That will include this year's Hall of Fame ceremony, n

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<v Speaker 1>x T stand and Deliver, episodes of SmackDown and Raw,

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<v Speaker 1>and a superstore access interactive fan experience, all of this

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<v Speaker 1>taking place in the Dallas area surrounding WrestleMania thirty eight Dates, locations,

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<v Speaker 1>ticket information for the events have yet to be announced,

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<v Speaker 1>so w W e returning to normal for this year's WrestleMania. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan Pro Wrestling has canceled the remainder of their

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<v Speaker 1>events for January due to COVID nineteen medical protocols. Company

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<v Speaker 1>announced on their website this morning that due to wrestlers

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<v Speaker 1>quote presenting elevated temperatures or being in close contact with

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<v Speaker 1>same end quote, have we not done testing by now

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<v Speaker 1>the story has been going on for a week. The

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<v Speaker 1>company will cancel the remainder of their tour this month

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<v Speaker 1>and will resume with live touring on February six in Chiba.

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<v Speaker 1>All ticket holders for these events will be refunded. Dates

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<v Speaker 1>affected by these cancelations include January twenty five, Fukushima, January

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<v Speaker 1>con January iber Rocky January twenty show the scheduled place

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<v Speaker 1>and I has been postponed to April eighteen. Tickets for

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<v Speaker 1>the January twenty show will be valid for April eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Cancelations take place after six and JPW wrestlers missed three

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive dates during the Golden Series. Toru Yano, Tomi, Tomlwaukee,

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<v Speaker 1>hone Ma, Suzuki, tai Chi Talk I Met You, Noku,

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<v Speaker 1>Toshi Kojima were among those pulled from the show. Dow

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<v Speaker 1>Japan last held an event on January in Gunma. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like three years in basically to this pandemic. Two years,

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<v Speaker 1>three years. It's COVID nineteen. It's twenty two right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember in the early days when everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>locking down and and everything like that. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go on Facebook much anymore, but you guys remember going

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook and everybody would be posting those notes. Does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody know anybody that actually got COVID? Remember those days? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are, and does anybody know anybody that hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>got COVID At this point, it seems like everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten over the last several weeks. But now do Japan

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<v Speaker 1>shut down as a result. Also coming out of g

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<v Speaker 1>c W, this is good news, Chris Dickens in We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be returning to action by g CUBLEWS next spring Break event.

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<v Speaker 1>Dickenson appeared at tonight's The World on g c W

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<v Speaker 1>pre show put over g c W and New York

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<v Speaker 1>City edit Is Promo, saying that he would be back

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<v Speaker 1>for Spring Break Weekend. This is an event usually held

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<v Speaker 1>by Joey Janelle and g cuble during Menia Weekend, which

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<v Speaker 1>this year will take place the weekend of April second

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<v Speaker 1>and third. He injured himself November November fourteen at the

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan Battle in the Valley card in San Jose.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there and uh, I went for a frog splash,

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<v Speaker 1>dislocated and fractured his hip. G c W owner Brett

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<v Speaker 1>Lauderdale kind of promo prior to the start of tonight's show,

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<v Speaker 1>describing his background, talking about how tonight was special, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said there were many as many said that there

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<v Speaker 1>were many g c ws before him, and did the

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<v Speaker 1>promo saying there's nothing like a g c W ever

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<v Speaker 1>before and they were all pay per view tonight because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fans. So happy to hear that Chris Dickinson

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<v Speaker 1>will be back in action soon. I mean that dude

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<v Speaker 1>loves pro wrestling. I mean, if you've heard him on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Not a lot of guys love pro wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>like Chris Dickinson. Back in the moment, talk of the

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<v Speaker 1>lineup for the Royal Rumble and more. Wrestling Observer Live,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy talk the show. Brain elbur is here Wrestling Observer Alive.

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<v Speaker 1>No Mike simper viv at this point, but we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. I told him to drive the speed limit,

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<v Speaker 1>don't speed home to do the show. According to Fightful Select,

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<v Speaker 1>I love these stories. Impact Wrestling knockouts Take Team champions

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie Lee and Jesse McKay We're offered spots in the

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<v Speaker 1>Women's Royal Rumble, but turned the offer down, reports sites

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<v Speaker 1>an Impact Wrestling. Sources of the company would have approved

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<v Speaker 1>the deal, but Lee and McKay did not want to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to w w E at this time. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>fire everybody and then beg for them to come back

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<v Speaker 1>for our Women's Royal Rumble. Good for them, Good for them.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got a men's and women's Royal Rumble, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>they ain't got thirty women, but somehow they've got twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one announced, whereas they got more than enough men. But

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<v Speaker 1>at this point they only have announced. So the Royal

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<v Speaker 1>Rumble is Saturday, which caught vinneyoff guard. My buddy Mark

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was Sunday. A it's Saturday, everybody. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do eight Saturday pay per views just here. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea why. You know, it's a personal opinion. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like Sunday better, Saturday better, I mean whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's got a different life and a different schedule. But dude,

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<v Speaker 1>these Saturday pay per views are so inconvenient. Anyway, we

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<v Speaker 1>got the Royal Rumble match, which is yeah, but broy

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<v Speaker 1>they run UFC's on on Saturday. Yeah, you're right, they do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what U have cs a pay per view

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<v Speaker 1>or like a bunch of buddies come over to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of you have a bunch of buddies coming

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<v Speaker 1>over for the Royal Rumble? Maybe you actually do for

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<v Speaker 1>the rumble because like the Rumble is the show rumble

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<v Speaker 1>and mania. I can see like buddies actually coming over

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. But are you buddies coming over for Survivor

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<v Speaker 1>series on a Saturday anybody? So? Anyway, thirty man Royal Rumble,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty man actually be thirty women Royal Rumble. At least

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<v Speaker 1>they don't called the men's Women's Royal Rumble like they

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<v Speaker 1>called it the anyway. Brockle Ner versus Bobby Lashing for

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<v Speaker 1>the w w E title, Becky Lynch versus Do Drop

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<v Speaker 1>for the women's title, Edge and Beth Phoenix versus MS

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<v Speaker 1>and Maurice and Roman Rains versus seth Rawlins. So well,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you've been watching the build for

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Rains versus seth Rollins, if you watched SmackDown on

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday night, Uh seth Rawlins is uh the baby

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<v Speaker 1>face in this feud. He's doing his cackling character with

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<v Speaker 1>the goofy jackets and Roman Rains gets cheered everywhere he goes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>but Romans gonna be the heal and Seth is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the baby face, which you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous in some ways, but I mean, if you watched

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<v Speaker 1>the SmackDown Show on Friday, Seth is a great baby face.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, it's like we haven't talked for a

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<v Speaker 1>year about how much memory. Here's the Messiah and absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>totally sucked. And then you know, he became a father,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was gone for a while and he made

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<v Speaker 1>a big return and everybody was cheering him. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a perfect time to turn him baby face, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just went right back to being the sigh again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then later in an interview and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been a great time to turn baby face. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>turns out seth Rawlins as a worker is much better

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<v Speaker 1>served being a baby face and a heel. So at

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<v Speaker 1>least from now until the Royal Rumble, we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>watch seth Rawlins is a baby face. And then who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they'll turn him back at that point because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God forbid we take an over baby face

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<v Speaker 1>and just let him be an over baby face. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ahead of myself here, Men's Royal Rumble has the

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<v Speaker 1>following announced. One of these men, any of these men

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<v Speaker 1>could headline one of the two Knights of WrestleMania. Angelo Dawkins,

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<v Speaker 1>montez Ford, Ray Mysterio, Dominic Mysterio, Austin Theory, Johnny Knoxville, Shamus,

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<v Speaker 1>Damien Priest, aj Styles big E who at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>who else is gonna win? Happy Corbin, mad Cap Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Zane, Kofi Kingston and Kevin Owens. Fifteen men still

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<v Speaker 1>to be announced for the Royal Rumble the Women's Rumble

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<v Speaker 1>as twenty one entrance announced. Those include Rhea Ripley, Nicky,

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<v Speaker 1>ash Dana Brook, Carmela Queens, Lena to Mina, Shotsi, Natty Aliyah, Naomi, Shana,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Nicki and Briebella. Nikki did an interview about a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago saying her doctor laid down the hammer and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll absolutely never wrestle again. She's in the Real Rumble, Leda,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle McCool, Kelly Kelly, Summer, Ray, Impact Champion, Mickey James,

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<v Speaker 1>Bianca bell Air and Live More Again. So we still

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<v Speaker 1>need nine women. They're asking fired women to please come

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<v Speaker 1>back to be in this royal Rumble. I would expect

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<v Speaker 1>Raquel Gonzalez to be in the rumble. Maybe they'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>up all of Mandy's crew. And as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>men's and women's rumble, there will be a big return

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<v Speaker 1>at the Royal Rumble. Who could that be? Who could

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<v Speaker 1>that be? Tonight? Raw brock Lessner, Bobby Lashly will be

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<v Speaker 1>doing a way in for this fight with no weight limits.

0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Maurice will ever birthday celebration, and the Alpha Academy will

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<v Speaker 1>do the Alpha Academy Academic Challenge with Matt Riddle and

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Orton. I honestly, as God is my witness, cannot

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<v Speaker 1>wait for that. It may be an awful, horrible train wreck,

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's an academic challenge with with Matt Riddle, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how could it not be entertaining? Even if, like even

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the worst writer in the world, If

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Riddle is involved with an academic challenge, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be good. Mark my words. I've been wrong

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<v Speaker 1>countless times, but mark my words on this one. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>three things announced for Row tonight. Not one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is a professional wrestling match also backstage l A Night

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<v Speaker 1>and Roderick Strong. According to p W Insider, uh So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens with these guys, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're aware of this or not, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>they've called up folks to uh, do you know, matches

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<v Speaker 1>for Ron SmackDown, dark matches, et cetera, backstaged events, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they go from there to the main roster. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they do those matches and then they are sent back

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<v Speaker 1>to n x T and they're just in a see again.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kodakai would be a fine example of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they go up and they do these dark matches

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like you can get called up and

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 1>instead they get fired. So we'll see what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>these guys and others as well, but they are backstage

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<v Speaker 1>at RAW. We have got Beach Break from Cleveland, Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>on TBS on Wednesday. This is the a W Show

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and many many things announced. We've got Cody versus Sammy

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Gavara in a ladder match to determine the undisputed t

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<v Speaker 1>NT champion. Santana and Ortiz. We we're facing Chris Jericho.

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Santana Ortiz and Chris Jericho. They're having uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're having problems, but they will be teaming together to

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<v Speaker 1>face Daniel Garcia and two point oh. Adam Cole will

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<v Speaker 1>be facing Orange Cassidy, Red Velvet versus Layla Hirsch and

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<v Speaker 1>also appearing on the show and interview segments. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Baker and CM Punk. They will also be taping

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<v Speaker 1>a Rampage on Wednesday, so a big edition of a

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<v Speaker 1>W on TBS. What you gonna think of a Rampage

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<v Speaker 1>and SmackDown this week? I thought that Rampage was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good show. John Moxley Ethan Page ten minutes, good match.

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<v Speaker 1>They went a long time. I I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be quicker. But if you look at the way

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<v Speaker 1>that that a W books, which is you know, what's

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<v Speaker 1>what's logical? Well, what's logical? As John mox has been

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<v Speaker 1>gone for three months and he's come back and this

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<v Speaker 1>is first match, and so I would not say that

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<v Speaker 1>he struggled in storyline, but it did take him ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to beat Ethan Page, so I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with it. They do this in Japan all the

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<v Speaker 1>time and often actually the guy has been out of

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<v Speaker 1>action for a long time and comes back. He actually

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<v Speaker 1>loses that first match because he's rusty in storyline, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did not go that far with John Moxley, nor

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<v Speaker 1>would I have beaten John Moxley, Trent barretta Nick Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>They went fourteen minute. It's very very good match. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this is supposed to be a tag team match, but

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<v Speaker 1>Rocky Romero out with COVID, so switched to a singles

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<v Speaker 1>match and Trent beat him. So beat him clean in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the ring with his move, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure when Rocky returns, will build to the tag team match,

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<v Speaker 1>which also should be great. Best wishes to Rocky, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>he's back in action soon. Everybody's main man. Hook defeated Serpentaco,

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<v Speaker 1>threw him around for a minute eleven, and then had

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<v Speaker 1>a at a deal on the ramp with QT again

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<v Speaker 1>and super Lex QT for the second time. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>either two things are gonna happen right here. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>QT and Hook are just gonna wrestle at any time

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<v Speaker 1>on Dynamite Rampage, or you could do the deal where

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<v Speaker 1>QT sends all of his crew to take out a Hook.

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<v Speaker 1>Hook runs through pretty much all of them, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, but most of them, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>do hook and QT at the pay per view, But

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<v Speaker 1>the pay per views about six weeks away, Uh, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even longer actually, so we'll see which way they end

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<v Speaker 1>up going there. We had Jade Cargill versus Anna j

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<v Speaker 1>and I would not say that this was a a

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<v Speaker 1>great match. But if you would have told me Jade

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<v Speaker 1>Cargill nag On and a j nine minutes on Rampage Live,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have had bad idea. But they pulled it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Five minutes was during a commercial break, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see the entire match from bell to bell, but what

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<v Speaker 1>I saw was good. They had some good near falls.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end, Jade Cargill beat her with her move

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<v Speaker 1>and I got a big pop. So whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say about Jake Cargill, I mean she is over

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<v Speaker 1>with this crowd and this was a good showing and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see who ends up next in line for Jade

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<v Speaker 1>Cargill and Man Smart, Mark Sterling, God Brainbuster right on

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<v Speaker 1>his head on the floor and uh showed up this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend h G c W in a neck brace, so

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<v Speaker 1>selling it everywhere. I got come up with more your

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls. Deserver Live free leave check back in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard a thing yet see what happens. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here in a second, but I want to make one

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<v Speaker 1>mention of something on SmackDown. I'll do a full recap

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<v Speaker 1>huge fans strong and SmackDown. And it's funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>watched SmackDown and it was when it was over, actually

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<v Speaker 1>one minute before it ended, I was like, I really

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<v Speaker 1>like this show. And then the finish of the main

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<v Speaker 1>event was just absolutely appalling and insulting. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>I started reviewing with Dave, I don't like the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but I felt like I did like the show, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of weird. So anyway, I will review it

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<v Speaker 1>in full on on the tom Show, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the main event very quickly. So what

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<v Speaker 1>they did was they set up seven seth Rawlins and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Owens against the USOS in a tag team match.

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<v Speaker 1>What you say, Kevin Owens on s yes, Because even

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<v Speaker 1>though they advertise every year falsely, I might add that

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<v Speaker 1>Survivor Series is the one time per year Iran SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>wrestlers square off against each other. Well, uh, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Rumble season and so everyone can be on every show.

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<v Speaker 1>So seth Rawlins and Kevin Owens show up and they

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<v Speaker 1>set up the match for the main event with a

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<v Speaker 1>stipulation if seth Rawlins and Kevin Owens win, the USOS

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<v Speaker 1>our ban from ringside for the Roman Reigns seth Rawlins match.

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<v Speaker 1>If the USOS win, seth Rawlins doesn't get a shot

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<v Speaker 1>at Roman Reigns at all the Royal Rumble, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns atch, and he doesn't do anything until Rustle

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<v Speaker 1>maybea that's the that's the stipulation this match when fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>and dude, it was great. This match was great. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier in the show, seth Rawlins is

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<v Speaker 1>such a great baby face and he's flying around and

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<v Speaker 1>doing this awesome hot tag and these fans are going

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<v Speaker 1>nuts for his hot tag. There at the end, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going along so great, and finally seth Rawlins hits the

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<v Speaker 1>curb stomp on one of the u S sos and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to make the cover and Roman Reigns runs

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<v Speaker 1>in for the disqualification, and I was so mad. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only one, but dude, you guys realized that

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>all seth Rawlins had to do was win and he

0:27:55.160 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>would have theoretically the advantage at Royal Rumble against the

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<v Speaker 1>champion that nobody has been able to defeat for however

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>many years it's been or whatever. So instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>letting seth Rawlins Pin the USO Roman Reigns ran in

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<v Speaker 1>for the disqualification, so seth one anyway, they literally did

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<v Speaker 1>a d Q. I don't even know why they did

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<v Speaker 1>a d Q because they didn't want to beat the USO's.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any difference. And seth Rawlins is the

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<v Speaker 1>man who's going to challenge Roman Reigns for the title.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't even give that guy a win over one

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<v Speaker 1>of the USO's. You had to do a d Q

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<v Speaker 1>after a great fifteen minute match when the d Q

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<v Speaker 1>just got seth Rawlins. Having the USOS banned from ringside anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so mad. I was just whatever. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to the phones. Fayetteville. You're on the air. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, Hey, Brian, it's John from Arkansas. How's it going? Hey? John?

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't heard you in a while, And I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened daily. I just haven't been able to make

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it in on calls. But I have to say I'm

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>with you on your frustration in w w E. And

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I've got to say good on Cassie Lee and Jesse

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>McKay for not going back. And if they went back,

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I would make it worth my while. Big time. I

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>tell w W, how bad do you need me? And

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna cost you because I'm doing you a

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>favor by coming in here. Ww's booking. It throws you

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>out of a lot of things in your enjoyment as

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a fan. And I honestly don't know why anybody has

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the patience to stick with them, because they just chuck

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>all logic out the door. I mean, they're would have

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>been nothing wrong with given Seth a win and on

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the g c W show, I've purchased it last night. Yeah,

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>there were some bumps here and there and never some

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>things that I wasn't pleased with, but overall I would

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>give g c W another chance based on what I

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>saw last night. Well, I want to thank you very

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>much for the college John, thanks for listening every day.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>And do you want to say one thing about he goes,

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>how do people watch this this uh this SmackDown show. Well,

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you what I think here

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>because I just experienced this and quite frankly, like the

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>d Q, I was just furious at the moment. I

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>was furious, Okay, but there's there have been, uh, there

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>have been many times where I have sat there and

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I've watched SmackDown, and when the show is over, I

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's a good show. And then I go

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and I review it with Tom, and then you start

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>analyzing every segment and by the time you're done analyzing

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>your show, you're like, this was the dumbest show. None

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of this made sense and why? So what my here's

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>my point. I believe that there are two million fans

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and I know this, at least two million. There's two

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>million fans that watched SmackDown, and actually many, many more

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>because that's the average over two hours, so it's probably

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>four million. Four million people watch SmackDown every Friday night,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and their job is not to talk about it on

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the radio or they don't have a podcast or a

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>blog or anything like that, so they just watch it.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And I would say that if four million people are

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>watching SmackDown, exactly four million of those four million also

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>have their phone next to at the time, so they're

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>on their phone, they're texting, they're googling this or that.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pourn I don't know. But anyway, the point

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>is they're watching SmackDown kind of in the background, and

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they just watch it and they like this and they

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>like that, and they think that's funny, and they like

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing this person the show, and the show's over and

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>there just they move on to whatever's next, and they

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>don't really think about it. I think there's a lot

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>of people that watch w w E and they don't

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>think about it. They just watch it. And if you

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>just watch it, you know, aside from you know, blatant

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>chicanery like the d Q in the main event of

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the show, I think you're just watching. It's over then,

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>ass fun I'll watch it again next week. Raw. I

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's a little bit different because it's so damn long.

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a lot of people to watch

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>RAW and they don't pay attention to it, and they

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>give it an hour or they give it an hour

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and a half or whatever, and then they get bored

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and they watch something else. And same thing with n

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>x T two point. I think a lot of old

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>people they don't think about it. They blindly watch it.

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>They're doing something else at the time, probably going on

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Manu Ros's Instagram, and then you know, when it's over,

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>there like, I'll watch it again next week. That's how

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe most people watch w w E. And I

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>feel that if you watch it like that, you probably

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 1>are just fine with every one of the shows. But

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>if it's your job, which it's not for most people

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to watch it and like trying to figure out what's

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>going on and what happened last week, and it's infuriating,

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>absolutely infuriating. So that, my friend, is when you ask

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>why do people watch this, I'm telling you why. It's

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>because of how they watch it that I think is

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the that I think is the big difference there. All right,

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>let's go to uh Canada. Vancouver is on the air.

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Hey there, Bryan, my name is Steven,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>long time fan. UM. I wanted to thanks for taking

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>my call first of all, and uh so I wanted

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>first of all GW amazing show. Um, but I just

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>want to take it back to Wednesday on a w

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>or Cody Rhodes, you know, is amazing promo. He talked

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>about you know, secondary titles and world titles and and

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>all that I feel is a professional wrestling kind of

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>has like a bit of a problem, which showcasing their

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>champions in general, because I think, like you look at

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>mm A, you look at sports, you see how um,

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, becoming a champion in M M A and

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>sports and all that, like how it uplifts their lives,

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it changed their lives, and we don't really get to

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>see much of that in professional wrestling, so I know,

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>for the most part of scripted and you know, titles

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>are kind of like props in a way. But I'd

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>be kind of nice if we kind of got to

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>see the side of the champion of you know, them

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>winning the champion and how much it kind of changes

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>their lives. Um, I just want to get your comments

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>on that. Well. I want to thank you very much

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>for the call. I mean, you know, the idea in

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a w at least. Oh look who's here. It's Mike

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Semper viv Hi. Oh my goodness. That guy had a

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 1>good question. And then I had something I want to say.

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But we probably should get a four minute g c

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>W reporting here very quickly, so color I apologize, I will,

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I will get to you. I'll get to that question

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>down the road, but Mike, four minutes, yes, tell us

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>what would well what would you like to know about

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>this show? Because I've heard mixed reviews, I can say

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>being there, the crowd sounded a lot better than what

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>apparently it sounded like on the broadcast. Apparently they had

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>audio mixing issues, which I don't know if that was

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a fight TV thing, I'm not sure exactly what it was.

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I was also told that it looked great, so as

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>far as the pictures went, as far as the camera

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>work went, that went fantastic. Um. Look, I'm obviously a

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>g c W fan. People I have worked there that

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm very friendly with and like to see him succeed,

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was a very good night. But

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a trade off with having the Hammerstein ballroom, and

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that is do you get the full g c W experience? Um.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And I know they wanted to. I know they wanted

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to honor ECW, and I think if you're a g

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 1>c W fan, you knew they were going to do that.

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I am hearing from a lot of people that it

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>was too much of an e c W type of

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>tribute show. Again, the problem with the Hammerstein is you

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>don't get some of the blood, some of the things,

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the light tubes, the things that make GCW different. And

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that's the tradeoff with with Hammerstein. Obviously, Nick Wayne's issue,

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I heard you talk about it on the way in UH.

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>The issue that he had there. That was unfortunate. But

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's going to be a silver lining everything,

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and his silver lining is actually a platinum one because

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.720
<v Speaker 1>at some point he's going to get well. Osprey probably

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be a spring break, and that's going to

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>be fantastic. Uh you know again, I I was, I

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was satisfied with the show. A lot of people wanted FTR,

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>but Matt Tremont and Nick Gauge I thought was a

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>really cool thing. Unfortunately, again one of the tradeoffs you

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>have of of appearing a traditional pay per view, they

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 1>were pressed for time and then they had what looked

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>like a screwy finish going off the air that the

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Briscoes had to sell and it was you know, that

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>was just pointing. And one of the reasons I think

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>that did go so long was obviously the six man

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Luca match was was fantastic. It was phenomenal, amazing car

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>crash for what it was. That went long, and then

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Janelle and Cardona went way too long, and the whole

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Cardona verse was in there. He had Hornswoggly and Marco

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>coming back, he had this, he had that, Brian Myers.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It just went too long. It was twenty minutes. As

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>far as match time goes, I'm not sure what everything else,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but that unfortunately seemed to take away from the other matches.

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Homicide I thought, didn't get in as much offense as

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe he could have against Moxley and made it more

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of a competition and a fight, because even in homicides hometown, Unfortunately,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think anybody believed that he could

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>win that match. Um you know, the end five minutes

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>for the main event again, how that thing got caught off?

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>There were I think, you know, there were things to

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>be learned about this show for them, and I think

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>there are going to be some people that have heard

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>have heard all this buzz about g c W checked

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it out for the first time and went no, no,

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't like this. But I think there's also some

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>other people that maybe caught it, saw it so wild.

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 1>You saw some great things. You saw the second Gear crew,

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you saw all these cool things happen. So again, there

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>were pros and cons to it and being sure we

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>can get into it a lot more tomorrow and anybody

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>else's questions Back at a moment Observer live back in

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the show, bran Overa is here Wrestling Observer Alive, Mikes

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and p Viv also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. We'll

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>talk more about g c W with Mike tomorrow since

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 1>he showed up here at the very last second. Things

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>to that damn train or whatever. Yeah. Yes, so since

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Sean Ross SAP has gone public with this and mentioned

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>in I'm sure it'll be everywhere soon. Yes, I was

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>told that Rhonda Rousey will be in the Royal Rumble,

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>so I suppose anything can happen. But that was the

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>word I heard that a while ago, So now they

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>have any two I want to mention very quickly since

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that guy called in and I had to cut off

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>his his question about championships. Listen, if you care about

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 1>championships being important and wrestling, then whether whether they you

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>know you think they do or not a W is trying. Okay.

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>The idea is we've got a world championship that is

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>very rarely going to change hands and only go to

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the very top guys. And we've got a T and

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>T title that is going to change hands more frequently.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>But they do want that to be on the level

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 1>of the a W title. It's gonna be hard to be,

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.760
<v Speaker 1>but that's the idea behind that title, and New Japan

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing with the i w g P

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Heavyweight in the Intercontinental title, and Dave was talking about

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it the other a couple of days ago and he

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that, you know, they even headlined with that title. Bro,

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they didn't just headline with the secondary title. They once

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>had a Tokyo Dome where they had the fans vote

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 1>which match should be the main event of the Tokyo Dome,

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the i w g P World Heavyweight titnel or the

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Intercontinental title, and the fans voted for the Intercontinental title.

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>So it can be done having a secondary title on

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>par with your world title, and that is what a

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>w is trying to do, so hopefully they do it. Mike,

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>thanks for the five minutes today. I appreciate it. I

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>hope you had a fun time. We'll talk to him

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>again tomorrow. All of my friends and family listening right now,

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of family listening. We're back at two Pacific

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>five Easter with Filthy Tom. Talk to you next time,

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:49.920
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