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Speaker 1: The Inside Scoop with that FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,

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Speaker 1: I want to shed our Midwest bias just for a moment.

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Speaker 1: We spent sixteen minutes on the Al Central. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about them basically at the top of the show every day.

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Speaker 1: So let's finally give the Al East a little bit

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Speaker 1: of love one time. Okay, So your thoughts on what's

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Speaker 1: going down right now? The Yankees clinch, they win, Blue

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Speaker 1: Jays fall to a Red Sox team that needs to

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Speaker 1: stay competitive. Do you think that we still have ourselves

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Speaker 1: a little race here with the Yanks one game back.

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Speaker 2: I do, And Scott, that might be the first time

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Speaker 2: in broadcast history where somebody said they had an Ale

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Speaker 2: Central bias. That's not a common thing you hear on

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Speaker 2: any airwaves. But as for the Ale East, sure it's

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Speaker 2: still alive one because the margin is you can see

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Speaker 2: right there. Just one game two. Because Garrett Crochet starts

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Speaker 2: tonight for the Red Sox against the Blue Jays. Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays are having trouble scoring, happens to all teams. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they're feeling a little bit as they close in on

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Speaker 2: the division, but this is still quite something. And yes,

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays do hold the tiebreaker. It's a distinct advantage.

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Speaker 2: But we've got a ways to go here and we'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens. The Yankees have the White Sox and

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Speaker 2: Orioles left. They've got a chance to run the table

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Speaker 2: here and then that will increase the pressure on Toronto.

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Speaker 1: A couple things on Toronto, Ken for you. Number one,

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Speaker 1: alec Renoa was designated for assignment by the team. So

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Speaker 1: her thoughts on the rise and the fall of Manoa

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Speaker 1: within the organization because this team is going to lose

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Speaker 1: some starting pitchers, most likely this offseason due to free agency.

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Speaker 1: So what did you think of that move? I'll start

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Speaker 1: there with you.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised. I would believe that most people in

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Speaker 2: baseball were surprised by this news. You see it right

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Speaker 2: there that Russ Atkins said. It came down to roster

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Speaker 2: crunch and depth. Also, they did not like what they

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Speaker 2: were seeing from Manoa. Filo is down. The body wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he's had some conflict with the organization and

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Speaker 2: Scott you mentioned the rise and fall. His rise was

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Speaker 2: pretty spectacular. For a while there it looked like he

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Speaker 2: might be the next great pitcher in the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: And he was in the All Star Game if you remember,

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Speaker 2: he was miked up. It was a really entertaining player.

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Speaker 2: He was a really good player for a long time,

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Speaker 2: and then the injuries happened, and here is where he

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Speaker 2: is today. If I were Alec Manoa right now, I'd

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Speaker 2: be fired up by this. I'd be like, Okay, you're

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Speaker 2: giving up on me when you could have dfaed any

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Speaker 2: number of other players. I'm sure they had others on

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Speaker 2: their forty man they could have gone and lopped off,

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Speaker 2: but they gave up on him. So it's a challenge

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Speaker 2: to him. Obviously, it's an organization saying we don't want

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Speaker 2: you anymore. And I would expect Alec Manoa will come

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Speaker 2: out of this thinking, you know what, I've got something

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Speaker 2: to prove and I'm going to prove it.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the blueche is, before we get into the

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Speaker 3: Springer fair ball controversy, which I still don't know why

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Speaker 3: we can't figure out how to review some of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: What that's wrong? Lady Vladdy Junior like his for month

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Speaker 3: and a half now, he's he has not performed. John

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Speaker 3: Schneider kind of I don't want to say called him

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Speaker 3: out the other day, but kind of we need more

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Speaker 3: out of him, but he's one swing away kind of

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Speaker 3: he's given away at bats this and that. What the

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Speaker 3: heck's going on with Laddy because they need him now

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Speaker 2: Ever A j I'm not exactly sure what's going on

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Speaker 2: with him, but you're right, it's been something of a

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Speaker 2: concern there. And with Bishette out still and we don't

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Speaker 2: know when he's coming back, it's that much more of

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Speaker 2: a concern. And we all know too, this is the

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Speaker 2: time of year, crunch time, when you want your best

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Speaker 2: players to step up. It's happening in New York with

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Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, happening in Seattle with Kyle Raley, happening with

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Speaker 2: other teams as well that are in contention show hey

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Speaker 2: last night, for example, and Vlad is their guy. He's

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Speaker 2: their five hundred million dollar player now, So sure it's

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Speaker 2: not unreasonable for them to say, hey, man, let's go. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they're in a bit of a rut right now and

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Speaker 2: they've got to come out of it. It's as simple

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Speaker 2: as that. They've got to out of it or they

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Speaker 2: lose the division and things change for them. They've got

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Speaker 2: to play the wildcard round, where they've had trouble. So

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Speaker 2: what was looking so promising for the Jays just a

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Speaker 2: few days ago now looks more troublesome. But again, they

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Speaker 2: do have this in their control. They control their destiny,

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Speaker 2: as we say at this time of year, with the tiebreaker,

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Speaker 2: with the one game lead. But as we've seen in

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Speaker 2: so many of these races, which have been so exciting

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Speaker 2: and interesting, you gotta win. You got to keep winning,

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Speaker 2: and they're not doing that right now.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's go to that Springer play that AJ talked

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Speaker 4: about when they created the review rules. Was there a

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Speaker 4: reason why they said no nothing in front of the umpires.

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Speaker 4: Was there something we're trying to stay away from that

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Speaker 4: I don't see because we feel like we have so

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Speaker 4: much good technology, can't we get this right? And has

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Speaker 4: it been brought up when they talk about these rule

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Speaker 2: This, Eric, I don't remember why this was excluded from

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Speaker 2: the plays that could be reviewed. My guess is, and

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Speaker 2: I'm only guessing, so I don't want to say anything

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Speaker 2: definitive here, is that they didn't want to expand it

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Speaker 2: to the point where everything under the sun was potentially

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Speaker 2: under review. That said, that call the.

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Speaker 5: Other night was pretty clearly wrong any angle you look at,

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Speaker 5: and I know we don't have necessarily the perfect angle,

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Speaker 5: but my gosh, it looked like.

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Speaker 2: The ball went over the bag. It looked like Springer

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Speaker 2: had an entirely legitimate beef when he was caught by

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Speaker 2: John Boys saying if they want to give it to

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Speaker 2: New York, they should just give it to them. About it.

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Speaker 2: About that, but I can understand certainly his frustration with

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Speaker 2: the call, and Eric would seem to me it would

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Speaker 2: behoove the league to now say, Okay, you know what,

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Speaker 2: let's do the lines too. And there are some other

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Speaker 2: areas perhaps that they would want to consider. We're going

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Speaker 2: to ABS next year, so that's another area where we're

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Speaker 2: going to look to eliminate the egregious. Why not do

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Speaker 2: it with this as well? I'm not sure what the

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Speaker 2: answer is. Actually, I probably should try to find out.

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Speaker 4: And throw in foul tips while you're at it, because

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Speaker 4: they're talking about check swings and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 4: that's my wish list. ABS. What did you take from

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Speaker 4: one the fact that it's coming in kind of boring,

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Speaker 4: we knew that was going to happen, And two the

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Speaker 4: voting and how the voting. Yes, it passed. But is

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Speaker 4: there something more to read into that? Obviously, with the

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Speaker 4: collective bargaining coming.

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Speaker 2: Out, I don't think so, And actually I was surprised

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Speaker 2: that the players were as favorable in the end as

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Speaker 2: it turned out. Right there was two thirds? Am I

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Speaker 2: correct in saying that, Okay, two thirds is a pretty

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Speaker 2: good majority, and with abs there was always going to

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Speaker 2: be some players who dissented. There were some concerns raised,

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Speaker 2: and I wrote about them with Jason Stark about the system,

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Speaker 2: But by and large, players who have appeared in the

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Speaker 2: minor leagues in the last few years have experienced it,

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Speaker 2: they know what it is, and most of them seem

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Speaker 2: quite okay with it. So I would imagine if we

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Speaker 2: broke down the vote, if we had the public release

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Speaker 2: of the votes, we'd see more objections from the veterans

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Speaker 2: and maybe from the catching community, But in general, the

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Speaker 2: players seem to understand one this was coming anyway, and

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Speaker 2: two that it ultimately could be a good thing. Zach

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Speaker 2: Gallan was quoted today as saying, Hey, there might be

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Speaker 2: a three to two call on a close game and

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Speaker 2: the ninth inning that I throw a pitch where it's

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Speaker 2: called a ball and it's crucial that it's a strike

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Speaker 2: and I get the pitch when it's overturned. That's a

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Speaker 2: good thing, and I would agree with him on that.

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Speaker 2: So by and large, I'm excited about this. I expect

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a good thing for the game.

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Speaker 2: And the most encouraging thing to me is, well, two

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Speaker 2: things actually. One that we're not going full abs that

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Speaker 2: to me would be a mistake, and that's never really

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Speaker 2: even been something that had that much momentum. The other

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Speaker 2: thing that I like here is that it's quick. Everyone

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Speaker 2: says that this is going to be a fifteen second process,

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Speaker 2: So at the most, if it's fifteen seconds, that's nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's not like with replay, where sometimes it dodges dragon

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Speaker 2: be that. And ultimately it's going to be something that

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Speaker 2: adds strategy. It's going to be something that reduces arguments,

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Speaker 2: I would think, and it's going to be something that

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Speaker 2: as a whole benefits the game. So while there are

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Speaker 2: concerns with it, as there are any time something new

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Speaker 3: Ken do you have your passport? You have a passport?

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Speaker 3: Do you have do they have make passports for new people.

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Speaker 3: I do you do you?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about? You?

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Speaker 6: Reporter people?

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Speaker 3: You reporter people?

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Speaker 2: What do we need passboards to?

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Speaker 3: I just didn't know how it worked. If you had

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Speaker 3: special lanyards, you had to wear something. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: But because the reason I asked this is you're on Fox.

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Speaker 3: I'm on Fox. You're more than likely going to Toronto

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Speaker 3: than likely have to fly across the country and go

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Speaker 3: to Seattle, which is great because I love Seattle. Can

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Speaker 3: Seattle make a deep run with the way their team

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Speaker 3: is constructed because they've won the West? The West is

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Speaker 3: over there four games up, they have the tiebreaker, the

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Speaker 3: whole thing, the West is over? Can they make a

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Speaker 3: deep run for the first time ever? And dare I

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Speaker 3: say it? Mariner fans make it to the World Series?

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Speaker 2: I say the answer to that is yes. And I

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Speaker 2: like the fact not only that they're poised to win

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Speaker 2: the division, but they have firm control of the number

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Speaker 2: two seed, which ensures a buye and an outside shot

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Speaker 2: The Tigers have just kind of unraveled and they're starting.

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Speaker 3: Kind real quick before you go. If the if the

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Speaker 3: Do you pitch school board? Do you just say screw it,

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Speaker 1: They're already in, so they the postseason. Yeah, but you

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Speaker 3: Or not win the division, pitching or not pitching schoobl.

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Speaker 4: You give up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, now the owner of the team is going

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Speaker 2: I think I'm doing the same. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Crat's a great I agree to so consensus, but good

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Speaker 1: question of the day, Ken, thanks for stopping Bible say tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, tomorrow is fair territory. Taking your questions alive.

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Speaker 1: It's a line of It's Ken it's Grill and Ken

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Speaker 2: Zach.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, And what is your reaction to

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Speaker 1: Because it happened really fast, as we mentioned, I mean

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I was actually in a debate last night with

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Speaker 6: Like fifteen and a half games back in the division

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Speaker 6: But that's been the last three weeks, whether you're in

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Speaker 4: So which is it more? Is it more of a

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Speaker 6: So the fact that these teams kind of did this

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Speaker 6: So it's I don't know, there's no point in explaining it.

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Speaker 3: The ride before I dig too deep. How's How's Fry?

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Speaker 3: Have we had an update on on David Fry yet

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Speaker 6: Yeah, nothing official. We'll get the official word within the

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Speaker 6: in the next six to eight weeks and not need surgery.

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Speaker 4: There you go, that's huge, that's a huge. I mean,

435
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Speaker 4: that's answer to prayer. That's a huge when you see

436
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Speaker 4: something like that happen. Let's get to the environment last night.

437
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Speaker 4: Let's get to you know, we know that this team

438
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Speaker 4: is carrying the city on its back. The stadium looked

439
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Speaker 4: like it was a playoff atmosphere. They were ending with

440
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Speaker 4: a runner on third and one out and Arius was

441
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Speaker 4: up there standing in situations wearing the regular season Yeah,

442
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Speaker 4: it's a little amped when it's a Scooball game. You know,

443
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Speaker 4: you're trying to face the best pitcher in the game.

444
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Speaker 4: But what was the atmosphere like? And did they haven't

445
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Speaker 4: I heard they had a ton of walk ups ticket purchases.

446
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Speaker 4: Did that make the or was there something else that

447
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Speaker 4: they did with getting fans in the stands?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they had almost thirty thousand last night.

449
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Speaker 6: And I can tell you know, usually this time of year,

450
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Speaker 6: there's there's a football team that plays down the street

451
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Speaker 6: and no matter what their record is. That's all this

452
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Speaker 6: city pays attention to from July until well, I guess

453
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Speaker 6: till after the draft since they're usually in prominent draft position.

454
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Speaker 6: So this time of year usually have we have a

455
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Speaker 6: main interview room for pregame and postgame, and you're looking

456
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Speaker 6: around there and feel like I'm usually one of three

457
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Speaker 6: or four reporters, and I just caught myself last night.

458
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Speaker 6: I couldn't find a seat. And that never happens, right,

459
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 6: you know, in the playoffs it does, but for a

460
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Speaker 6: regular season game that was new, and so you could

461
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Speaker 6: have tricked yourself into believing that this was game one

462
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Speaker 6: of the Alds or a wildcard series. I mean, the

463
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Speaker 6: place was electric. There are actual stakes this week. You know,

464
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Speaker 6: both teams reorganized their rotations to make sure it was

465
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Speaker 6: Schooble against Gavin Williams, and you know, the way that

466
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Speaker 6: game unfolded like it was, it was nuts. You know,

467
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Speaker 6: the atmosphere was awesome. So they're hopeful that there will

468
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Speaker 6: be more of that.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

470
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Speaker 6: Friday, like they could be flirting with a sellout against

471
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Speaker 6: the Rangers. They're expecting decent crowds tonight and tomorrow, so

472
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Speaker 6: you know, credit to the city of Cleveland. I think

473
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Speaker 6: they've they've bought in in a hurry, just with how

474
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Speaker 6: quickly the season has turned around.

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Speaker 3: Well, good for the good for the people of Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: and good for the Guardians on making this a race

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Speaker 3: How would you even describe this pitching staff though, with

501
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502
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503
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504
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505
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506
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Speaker 3: what flip for these guys? Because Kate Smith's been unbelievable

507
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Speaker 3: in the back end. The rest of the bullpen has

508
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Speaker 3: been unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: What what flipped?

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Speaker 3: Especially for these starters.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Slade Secni said it the best because two

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513
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514
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Speaker 6: back on it and he's like, man, that was the

515
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Speaker 6: third best start we've had this week. Like it's there's

516
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Speaker 6: some friendly competition there. It feels like everybody is putting forth,

517
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Speaker 6: you know, the best start that they've ever made in

518
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Speaker 6: their career. Tanner Bibby threw a complete game shut out

519
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Speaker 6: that week. Joey Cantillo win eight scoreless. Some people watching

520
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 6: are asking who Joey Cantillo is. It's it's hard to explain,

521
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Speaker 6: you know. It's some of it is a guy like

522
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Speaker 6: Gavin Williams, who's had tantalizing stuff, first round draft pick,

523
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 6: top one hunder prospect, like this is what we expected.

524
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Speaker 6: It just takes young pitchers time to get there sometimes,

525
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Speaker 6: So there's that. There are guys like Parker Messick who's

526
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Speaker 6: made six career starts and doesn't know any better. And

527
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Speaker 6: maybe that blissful ignorance can help you. You know, when

528
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Speaker 6: you join a team cruising like this and everybody else

529
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Speaker 6: is pitching really well, you don't want to be the

530
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Speaker 6: guy that messes that up, right. And then there's one

531
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Speaker 6: person who I don't know if he gets enough credit.

532
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Speaker 6: Maybe he does. I probably not, though, And he's overseen

533
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Speaker 6: five cy young winners. And his name is Carl Willis,

534
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Speaker 6: and he's the pitching coach, and he's a guy in

535
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Speaker 6: his mid sixties who has seen some of the best

536
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Speaker 6: pitchers in the world and has is still like Joey

537
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Speaker 6: Cantillo goes eight scoreless inning, It's the best start of

538
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Speaker 6: his life. And Carl Willis is so giddy about it

539
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Speaker 6: that at one am he's texting Joey Cantillo telling him

540
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Speaker 6: how proud he is of him. This is a guy

541
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Speaker 6: who who has helped Felix Hernandez Winnisi Young Awards CC

542
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Speaker 6: Sabbathia praised Carl Willis all summer when doing interviews about

543
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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame. And you know, Willis is just

544
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Speaker 6: an He's a big reason why Cleveland has had the

545
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Speaker 6: reputation of boasting that pitching factory for years and years,

546
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Speaker 6: and he's a big part of why.

547
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Speaker 4: They could never produce They could never produce any bullpen guys,

548
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: but man, could they produce some some starters. And now

549
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: they're producing both and Carl Carl is legit. Is this

550
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Speaker 4: team set up for the rest of the year to

551
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Speaker 4: finish this thing up? Are they set up for these

552
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: last five games to finish this thing out?

553
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Speaker 6: I think they are. I have no idea what will

554
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Speaker 6: happen beyond that, because even this has been just ridiculous, right,

555
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Speaker 6: But they you know they are. I mean, they had

556
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Speaker 6: I think the weekend helped them a lot. They took

557
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Speaker 6: three or four in Minnesota. They had a double header

558
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 6: where the only relievers they used their doubleheader were two

559
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Speaker 6: long relievers, like the last guys in the bullpen, and

560
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 6: so everybody got a breather. And you if you watch

561
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 6: Kate Smith last night, he was one strike away from

562
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Speaker 6: an immaculate in it. So those guys are well rested.

563
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 6: Now the pitchings lined up. You know, if they need

564
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Speaker 6: Gavin Williams in Game one sixty two, they've got him

565
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Speaker 6: on regular rest. So yeah, they're in really good position

566
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Speaker 6: here to win the division or at worst get a

567
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Speaker 6: wild card. And then who knows. Like I'm I counted

568
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 6: them out fifteen times during the regular season, So I've

569
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Speaker 6: learned my lesson. I'll shut up and I'll just enjoy

570
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Speaker 6: the ride, Zach.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun ride to follow. Here's my question for you.

572
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Speaker 1: I know that this team has to be balling on

573
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Speaker 1: a budget at all times, and they've done a brilliant

574
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Speaker 1: job of being competitive for a long period of time.

575
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Speaker 1: Do you think that they should be pushing chips in

576
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Speaker 1: a little bit more during times like this? Last year

577
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Speaker 1: they make the ALCS. This year it's a really great story,

578
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Speaker 1: But does anyone think that they're going to win the

579
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Speaker 1: World Series with the lineup that they're throwing out there,

580
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Speaker 1: that they're going to get through all of October and

581
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Speaker 1: get past everyone else. So my question is when they've

582
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Speaker 1: been able to build such a brilliant bullpen, right, one

583
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Speaker 1: of the better bullpens that has been around, you know,

584
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Speaker 1: in decades. I would say over the last couple of years,

585
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Speaker 1: have they not capitalized enough by just at least dipping

586
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Speaker 1: their toes a little bit into the free agent market

587
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Speaker 1: for some bat help.

588
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in twenty sixteen, they reached the World

589
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Speaker 6: Series and then they signed Edwin and Carnacio and who's

590
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Speaker 6: one of the top sluggers on the free agent market.

591
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Speaker 6: And they came back in twenty seventeen, they won one

592
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Speaker 6: hundred and two games and they were the World Series

593
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Speaker 6: favorites and then collapsed in the Alds. That happens, it's baseball, right,

594
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Speaker 6: They've kind of been scared of their own shadow ever

595
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Speaker 6: since then. They haven't made moves like that since then,

596
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Speaker 6: and they're typically in this position where they're a contender.

597
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 6: They're usually on top or right near the top of

598
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Speaker 6: the ale Central and it would take catching lightning in

599
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Speaker 6: a bottle to win a World Series. It's been seventy

600
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Speaker 6: seven years since they won a title, right, Like when

601
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 6: the Cubs were at this point, it's all anyone would

602
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 6: talk about. And I think in Cleveland, you know, there

603
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 6: was a lot of frustration, especially once they were forty

604
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Speaker 6: and forty eight, that they didn't go out and add

605
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 6: to a lineup over the winter that everybody could see

606
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 6: wasn't good enough last year when they went to the ALCS.

607
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think you can compartmentalize and say this

608
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Speaker 6: is a great run. It's a great story right now.

609
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Speaker 6: And part of the reason, at least in Cleveland, I

610
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Speaker 6: don't think many people are moaning about payroll today is

611
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Speaker 6: because you've resigned yourself to the fact that for five

612
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Speaker 6: months it looked like this was going to be a

613
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Speaker 6: rotten season that was going to end in a frustrating fashion.

614
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Speaker 6: It just so happens that they caught fire and it

615
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Speaker 6: might not happen that way, And then I'm sure when

616
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Speaker 6: the season does end, we'll be right back talking about payroll.

617
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Speaker 6: How you can build off this and not repeating the

618
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Speaker 6: mistakes you repeated last winter.

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Speaker 3: Oh it looks like right now, if they get into

620
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Speaker 3: the postseason, they didn't make any mistakes. That's what they'll

621
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Speaker 3: tell everybody. We can do whatever we want.

622
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Speaker 4: So that's the thing.

623
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Speaker 3: The key ingredient to this for the last couple of

624
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: years from me has been Steven Vote. We had we

625
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Speaker 3: had Hammy on the other day and I asked him

626
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Speaker 3: this question, can Steven Vote win back to back American

627
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Speaker 3: League Manager of the Years and does he deserve to

628
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Speaker 3: win it? Much like you can make the argument Pat

629
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Speaker 3: Murphy deserves to win back to back in the nationally.

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Speaker 6: So it's funny. I actually talked to Stephen Vote about

631
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Speaker 6: this recently. Was it was he was out in public

632
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Speaker 6: earlier this summer and someone stopped him and recognized him,

633
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Speaker 6: and they said something along the lines of like, man,

634
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Speaker 6: I bet you wish it was as easy as it

635
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Speaker 6: looked last year. And Vote was like, Okay, it wasn't

636
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Speaker 6: easy last year. I know we won the al Central,

637
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Speaker 6: I know we reached the ALCS. But he was he

638
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 6: was getting his feet wet, he was learning how to

639
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Speaker 6: do the job. He was learning how to navigate through

640
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Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty two games with new players and

641
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 6: new responsibilities and a new coaching staff and he's the

642
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 6: guy in charge. He's the guy that has to answer

643
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Speaker 6: to everything, and you know, he's stressed like that was

644
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 6: not easy. It might have looked like that on the outside,

645
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 6: but it wasn't easy. And I think the biggest takeaway

646
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 6: is it prepared him for a season like this where

647
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 6: they've had so much adversity, losing streaks, the gambling stuff.

648
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 6: They traded Shane Bieber, they contemplated trading Stephen Kwan, and

649
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 6: he had to keep that clubhouse together and he did it.

650
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Speaker 6: And he was able to do it because there is

651
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 6: that bond there between manager and players that he established

652
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 6: last year, and he got to know these guys and

653
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 6: they trusted him and they knew he cared about them.

654
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 6: And so if you don't have the growing pains and

655
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 6: the learning curves that they went through last year that

656
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 6: might not have been as visible to the public because

657
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 6: they were winning games, you wouldn't have been able to

658
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 6: get through what they went through this year. So if

659
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 6: you want to vote for him for Manager of the Year,

660
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 6: it's probably a good case, right, but you shouldn't be,

661
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: you know, as we compare the job he's done this

662
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 6: year to last year, like it's both had their unique challenges.

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00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 6: They're just very different challenges.

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00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: I asked him when I was their last week, I said, Voter, or,

665
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: you know, are you gonna win Manager of the Year again?

666
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: Or I said, what's it feel like to be the

667
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: manager of the year? And he's like, I'm not manager

668
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: of the year. I'm like, you're the reigning champ right now,

669
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: so you have to take it. He's like, Okay, I'll

670
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: live with that for a couple more weeks. So I think, listen,

671
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: will he ever say that he would? It means a

672
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: lot to him, But I feel like this he it

673
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: would mean a lot for him to do it again,

674
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: especially with the way this team, what they've been through.

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00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: Fifteen and a half games back here they are in

676
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: first place. It's a pretty remarkable story.

677
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 6: Yeah it is. I mean, it's it's crazy. We didn't

678
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: know what to expect. And I know I talked to

679
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: a lot of guys who played with Voter and they

680
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: said all the right things. And if you examined his career,

681
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 6: the fact that he was DFA, he was traded, he

682
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 6: was never a top prospect, like he had a coaching

683
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 6: mindset from the very beginning, he was sitting in a ball.

684
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 6: He's twenty five years old. He's a backup catcher, and

685
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 6: he knew like the odds of him even reaching the

686
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: major leagues were not great. So he had to figure out, Okay, well,

687
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 6: what can I learn? What can I take away from this?

688
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 6: And he always wanted to get into coaching anyway, so

689
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 6: why not start thinking like a coach when you were

690
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 6: in the minor leagues? And oh it just so happened.

691
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 6: He turned into a two time All Star, he won

692
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 6: a World Series, so he experienced everything, and that allows

693
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 6: him to relate to everyone. And I think you've seen

694
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 6: that right, Like he knows when to just hand the

695
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 6: keys over to Jose Ramirez or Austin Hedges to lead everybody.

696
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 6: He knows when he needs to say the right thing

697
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 6: to the right person and or empower another coach. And

698
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 6: you know they've they've established a good culture here. This

699
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 6: season is thrown a lot at them, and I think

700
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 6: that's what makes what they've done this month just more incredible.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Zach, awesome having you on here. I didn't even

702
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: realize it because I feel like I know you, but

703
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: on here for the first time, So thanks for stopping by.

704
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Speaker 1: It's very good timing. I know you were like, you

705
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: know what, I want to wait until the Guardians come

706
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: back from one of the most improbable deficits of all

707
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: time to take over first place in the divisions.

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00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: She wanted it to be too great. Indians birthdays Ben

709
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: Brossard and John McDonald today.

710
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 6: Johnny Max's been around the team the last couple of weeks.

711
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 6: He might be the good luck charm. He also he

712
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 6: got them the number one pick last year. Remember he

713
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 6: was their their rep. So it might be something there.

714
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, lottery, it's a big deal. You gotta

715
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: have your uh your good luck charm for the lottery. Zach,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. This was great. Appreciate the time.

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Speaker 6: You gotta guys stick care