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Speaker 1: Fantas best Friends Forever Fantasy's Points Already Network alongside Frankie Stanfell,
Speaker 1: I am Gregg Sauceman. Thank you so much for joining us. Greggy,
Speaker 1: what's going on? How much? Greggy Friday? Yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it was pretty good. It's lackluster. Yeah, you weren't there
Speaker 1: for the first one. I was practice and didn't feel it.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Like it didn't have it was
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Speaker 1: course we'll put third eye line back on there because
Speaker 1: let people ever questioned that oddly enough, Frank, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't realize what you have until it's gone. Because while
Speaker 1: we had it, you know people would it passes. Now
Speaker 1: the comments we get where to go? Where to go?
Speaker 1: You guys need to do do what happened to do?
Speaker 1: Do do? I don't know what. We didn't actually tut you.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's gonna be an issue. You haven't
Speaker 1: figured it out. I had an idea. It doesn't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't even be gonna happen now. Sorry. Yeah, my last
Speaker 1: who rob before football season? Who rack? There? You go?
Speaker 1: Do you know that joke that was? Was that a
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Speaker 1: most musty do do you having a history mss There
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Speaker 1: the first time. Greg on the show today, Super fun
Speaker 1: show for you. We got the Fact of the Day
Speaker 1: coming out. We had the Hall of Fame game last night.
Speaker 1: What you know he was super excited about. Um there,
Speaker 1: we watched it together, right, we watched baseball together. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? We watch baseball together? I thought
Speaker 1: we watched the Hall of Fame game together to Nope,
Speaker 1: I tried failed. Yes, we got that. We have some
Speaker 1: some guys know what's talking about? We want to throw
Speaker 1: out there and then and the week we will have
Speaker 1: the first edition of the a DP duel between for
Speaker 1: example and myself, the first edition ever the A d
Speaker 1: P Duel. We're doling. It's just not are you purposely
Speaker 1: trying to break this? No, I'm trying to win the
Speaker 1: duel though it's gonna break very easily. You're not a bet,
Speaker 1: you're not a good dueler. Well, if I go as
Speaker 1: hard as you are, these things are bounded for people
Speaker 1: just listening. We're just clanking, little baby pirate sort of thing.
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Speaker 1: blast a DP duels coming out later on in the program.
Speaker 1: But first we started the stat of the day. Frankie,
Speaker 1: I don't have a tape. I'm sorry you didn't see
Speaker 1: me downstairs. I was very busy today. All right, we're
Speaker 1: both very busy today, very busy day. Okay, Meg, I
Speaker 1: looked through. I have a whole bunch of notes on players,
Speaker 1: all right of the day. Uh, well, how about this one?
Speaker 1: All right? It was fun when we spoke about Alvin
Speaker 1: Kamar since two thousand two, Kamars twenty carries was the
Speaker 1: lowest total by top three running back in half PPR,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't close. The next closest was two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty carriers. You can't mess that out like multiple
Speaker 1: times now. But maybe people were listening back that I
Speaker 1: need another stat. Uh looking, I don't have anything right now. Nothing.
Speaker 1: You have a whole list of Okay. Last year, six
Speaker 1: of the twelve top running backs, the RB ones, six
Speaker 1: of them average four points year yards per carry or less,
Speaker 1: just proving that volume Trump's efficiency for RB one's Gregg
Speaker 1: is that good one? Like a Matt Modique stet. Matt
Speaker 1: Modique was big on volume over efficiency? But which is
Speaker 1: true for you? RB one? Which does that cause you
Speaker 1: to push Alvin Kamara down the draft board a little bit? Well?
Speaker 1: You here's that? Like that? Should we do with Barkley?
Speaker 1: Should we do? Well? Which? Where where are you? I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're on the same not of the duel?
Speaker 1: Ah take that, young smen? What's not a duel? Are
Speaker 1: you on? I have Alvin Kamara. We speak about that
Speaker 1: trio a lot. It's Kamara Barkley Hunt. Should Gordon me
Speaker 1: in in that dream making a quartet? I have just
Speaker 1: recently a non PPR put Alvin Gordon ahead of Alvin Kamar.
Speaker 1: Really a navivrn prcause touchdowns count for you know a
Speaker 1: large majority of your fantasy production. Non PPR. We're doing.
Speaker 1: We're doing half point Austill take Kamara? Will you take
Speaker 1: Kamara Barley? I've already said I have Barkley ranked ahead
Speaker 1: of him, all right, because I think you can touch
Speaker 1: up all three fifty times, So you're not a DV
Speaker 1: dueling there? Because I agree with you, no duel? What
Speaker 1: would you have in half point between Kareem Hunt and
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. Greg Kareem Hunt, guy, man, you really you
Speaker 1: really calmed down a lot, don't Kamara? And then because
Speaker 1: you were not you were absolutely not on that. I
Speaker 1: just think, you know, with guys like Kareem Hunt at
Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley, guys who can consistently touch the ball
Speaker 1: twenty times, which, don't get me wrong, in the first
Speaker 1: four weeks of the season, Alvin Kamara can probably help
Speaker 1: you get off to like a four and no start
Speaker 1: in those first four weeks. I know they're gonna work
Speaker 1: someone else in as well. He's not gonna get like
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty touches in that span. But you
Speaker 1: gotta remember last year, this guy was getting what ten
Speaker 1: eleven carries per game and he was getting seven or
Speaker 1: eight catches. I think he's gonna get around twenty touches
Speaker 1: in those first four games. So he's gonna help you then.
Speaker 1: But don't forget once mark Ingram comes back, it's gonna
Speaker 1: go back to a lot of what we saw last year.
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't match the efficiency that he had
Speaker 1: last season, then we're not getting the same fantasy production.
Speaker 1: Like there's no way he's gonna mass the efficiency from
Speaker 1: last year six point one yards per carry. There was
Speaker 1: like ten yards per reception. Avan Kamara is a phenomenal player,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but he had twelve or thirteen
Speaker 1: total touch on He's just not going to be able
Speaker 1: to match that production. In my opinion, this year where
Speaker 1: you're drafting him is based on what he did last year,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he gets back to that level
Speaker 1: of efficiency. But we did say, like repeatedly over and
Speaker 1: over last year, he'll have more volume, which will trump
Speaker 1: the loss inefficiency. But I just don't know how much
Speaker 1: more volume he gets once Ingram is back. But we
Speaker 1: said this all year last year, right that he's not sustainable.
Speaker 1: Now we can't trust as we a week out and
Speaker 1: he before he did it, he did it last year.
Speaker 1: So I'm almost wondering because you were the one for
Speaker 1: a while, Frank, that was like you, um, you know
Speaker 1: Kamara man. I was the Kareem Hunk guy. You were
Speaker 1: the Camara guy, and that was it. And now you're
Speaker 1: always like walking it back for the same reason that
Speaker 1: I was giving you a month ago. And and I
Speaker 1: don't know why, like why did you stop believing in
Speaker 1: your guy? It because comes down to volume again, like
Speaker 1: what I mentioned, I think there's a chance that Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt is going to touch the ball around twenty times
Speaker 1: for names in half point, would you take me over
Speaker 1: him over Kamara? Yes, that's where that's where the line
Speaker 1: is drawn DA non PPR, I would because look back
Speaker 1: to back years twelve total touchdowns for Gordon. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to score at least ten. Would it surprise
Speaker 1: me if Alvin Kamar is more than the seven eight
Speaker 1: touchdown ranges here? No, wouldn't. I still think he'd catch
Speaker 1: the ball eighty times, which is going to make him
Speaker 1: more valuable than Melvin Gordon in my opinion, and a
Speaker 1: half point PPR definitely in a full point. When it
Speaker 1: comes to non PPR, where touchdowns matter so much more,
Speaker 1: I will I have moved Melvin Gordon ahead of its
Speaker 1: amazing how badly I want one of Melvin Gordon Kareemhunt.
Speaker 1: I love them so much. I think that's like you're
Speaker 1: doing the Whiteboard series a lot. I figured out that's
Speaker 1: the section I want to be in. It's like the
Speaker 1: eight nine pick I want to be DeAndre Hopkins was beforehand.
Speaker 1: That's the question. So I have the six pick in
Speaker 1: non PPR flex right now, and I'm trying to trade
Speaker 1: out of it because I'm stressing what be stressing that?
Speaker 1: So first of all, I don't I don't know who
Speaker 1: to take between Sakoon Barkley and Antonio Brown in a
Speaker 1: non PPR setting because but you may backs touched the
Speaker 1: ball so much, but you may not have the choice.
Speaker 1: I might not. I might not be thrilled. There's a
Speaker 1: chance that Alvin Camargo's five, I mean he might Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown was five, It's true. But then so basically the
Speaker 1: cut off for me is like if I take se
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, I pick six, and I guaranteed to get
Speaker 1: one of A J. Green or Davante Adams in the
Speaker 1: middle of the second I don't know that that happens.
Speaker 1: And then if if it doesn't, then I'm pulling up
Speaker 1: one of these other receivers of the board, Mike Evans
Speaker 1: or t Y Hilton in the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1: Do I want to do that? Can you just drive
Speaker 1: on the running back? I could theoretically and then take
Speaker 1: running back round three and fourth what I did last year,
Speaker 1: and I won. I took I started running back running
Speaker 1: back from I think pick eight or nine, right, But
Speaker 1: I'm trying to trade out of this pick to pick
Speaker 1: eight or nine because I'm guaranteed one of Kareem Hunter,
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, and in the in the early second round,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get one of Keenan Allen or Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: Why I like that. I think pick nine is awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've already hit up a few guys. Pat Thorman of
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, he shot me down. I think he
Speaker 1: had picked nine. I hit up a few other guys
Speaker 1: who have I think one has picked eight and the
Speaker 1: other has picked ten. So I'm going to see if
Speaker 1: one of those work out. Okay, I'll keep you updated. Well.
Speaker 1: Appreciate that, right, appreciate that. Um. Let me see all
Speaker 1: the Fame game. And you didn't actually watch an am, um,
Speaker 1: but you read about it to say goodbye or good
Speaker 1: friends yet but r I p who oh nobody really? Um,
Speaker 1: but you read about it, you look into it. What
Speaker 1: are you take aways? Yeah? I mean, look, no starters
Speaker 1: pretty much played in this game. It was all backup.
Speaker 1: So you got some of r G three, You got
Speaker 1: some of Lamar Jackson. I mentioned to see you Jackson
Speaker 1: average three point three yards per attempt, so really nothing
Speaker 1: down the field. From what I saw the highlights, he
Speaker 1: was throwing a lot of checkdown passes. Did throw a
Speaker 1: touchdown to Hayden Hurst, who people are hyping up a
Speaker 1: little bit today getting excited about. And I think he
Speaker 1: should have been on our radar even before this happened,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna continue to happen. Great. Anytime someone scores
Speaker 1: a touchdown in the preseason, you're gonna see their a
Speaker 1: DP move up. Hayden Hurst should have been on your
Speaker 1: radar regardless. Anyway, as a I'll say a solid tight
Speaker 1: end two inside your top twenty maybe top twenty four,
Speaker 1: because we know the Ravens like to throw the to
Speaker 1: the tighten a ton. They also drafted Mark Andrews, but
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst they used a first round pick on. Remember
Speaker 1: they drafted hayden Hurst over Lamar Jackson with that first
Speaker 1: pick in the first round, and then they took Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson with their later pick in the first round. So
Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson still he needs to work on
Speaker 1: something is obviously through the interception as well. He's not ready.
Speaker 1: He's not ready to start at the NFL level. Maybe
Speaker 1: at some point in this year, if Joe Flacco gets hurt,
Speaker 1: we could see him. But I'm not sure that Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is necessarily pushing for Joe Flacco's job. Unless this
Speaker 1: team starts owen whatever, or they have a losing record
Speaker 1: by like mid season, then you throw him out there
Speaker 1: and see what you have Lamar Jackson. One thing he
Speaker 1: didn't mention that Lamar Jackson's that he did take off
Speaker 1: eight times, not only years rushing, did take off those
Speaker 1: those eight times very interesting. Yeah, I watched a little bit,
Speaker 1: and it's just seem whenever the park the pockets started
Speaker 1: to problem, he just wanted to bail and he just
Speaker 1: wanted to run. So that's part of you know why
Speaker 1: I say I don't think he's ready yet. Obviously he's
Speaker 1: just a rookie coming in. He's going to learn those things,
Speaker 1: but he needs to learn to be a little more
Speaker 1: comfortable in the pocket. And you know, not just once
Speaker 1: things breakdown, you just want to take off and run
Speaker 1: right away. Maybe you break outside the pocket and you
Speaker 1: continue to look downfield. That's what makes guys like Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson so great at what they do. Once he gets
Speaker 1: out of the pocket. Defenders coming up. They have to
Speaker 1: decide whether to come attack Russell Wilson so that he
Speaker 1: doesn't run forward, or to stay back and guard the defenders.
Speaker 1: So that's what makes guys like Russell Wilson's so hard
Speaker 1: to defend Lamar Jackson. That's gonna be part of his
Speaker 1: progression as a quarterback at the NFL level. For Sean P.
Speaker 1: Harriman didn't get hurt, So I think that's a plus.
Speaker 1: There you go, there's a plus. Yeah, So that's that's
Speaker 1: that's that's obviously a positive for for Baltimore, UM over
Speaker 1: to Chicago. Anything you're taken away from that side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Any Cunningham look great man six for thirty seven.
Speaker 1: His long was thirty yards. That means there was five
Speaker 1: other carries for a total of seven yards. There's not
Speaker 1: much going on in the bear side of the ball,
Speaker 1: all right. All of Fame game remembers the extra preseason games,
Speaker 1: not even like the first. It's the first preseason game,
Speaker 1: but it's not like one of four. It's like no
Speaker 1: starters played. And I did look into the preseason schedule
Speaker 1: for next week when things actually kick off Thursday, there's
Speaker 1: like twelve games and so that's when a lot is
Speaker 1: going to be going on going in New York Giants
Speaker 1: Barkley's that's play on Fridays they do. Yeah, Giants debut
Speaker 1: on Thursday for St Kwon Barkley. I have phili Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Won't play, uh, but you'll get set Kawan
Speaker 1: Barkley some actions first time in a pro game in
Speaker 1: a Giants uniforms. That'll be fun. That'll obviously be fun
Speaker 1: to watch. And I did promise promise Frank by the
Speaker 1: way off air that my rankings will be done by
Speaker 1: the time he gets back. You have about Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have faith in It's it's annoying because I used to
Speaker 1: be able to after the bfs you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: working at that today because I was like normally I
Speaker 1: would do it after the BFFs. I'd sit and my
Speaker 1: headphones in and focus. You see me now like running
Speaker 1: around all the time like a chicken without a head.
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. But maybe today things the
Speaker 1: afternoon might be common enough to do that. But I
Speaker 1: think might be ready to do it. I'm just about
Speaker 1: finishing my ranking. Is gonna post those on Rotal Experts
Speaker 1: dot com Florida. If you're watching you seven years. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, maybe you won't mind,
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm not good enough. I just like
Speaker 1: to you do it the same before, and he does
Speaker 1: it because you do it, honestly, don't know. I just
Speaker 1: copy and paste. It's very easy. Does he do it
Speaker 1: on an Excel sheet? Yeah? You know what, I just do.
Speaker 1: I do it on fantasy pros like right there on that.
Speaker 1: Can I export it? Maybe I'll look into it. I'll
Speaker 1: see you might be able to export as an Excel.
Speaker 1: That's fine because otherwise I just have to start over.
Speaker 1: I also do tears to like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm all about all about some people don't even mistake
Speaker 1: great big on tears. We should probably do like a
Speaker 1: tear strategy discussion at some point. Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 1: We can get doing today if you want, because I
Speaker 1: do like having a strategy discussion. We do have a
Speaker 1: bunch of dueling to do. But um an auction, the
Speaker 1: tears are more massive than anything else, even more than
Speaker 1: a snake. To me, you the auction. When you are
Speaker 1: in an auction, the tears, You live and die by
Speaker 1: the tears, especially if other people have similar tears. Tears
Speaker 1: as well. So you know that when that group, when
Speaker 1: that group of running backs is going that Alvin Kamar
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. If Melvin Gordon's last one on the board
Speaker 1: in an auction, he's gonna get jacked up. He's gonna
Speaker 1: end up going for more than all those other guys
Speaker 1: because people see him as the last workhorse running back
Speaker 1: in the first round. That's not necessarily the case, but
Speaker 1: if that's the perception that someone has, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon's pricing and all seen starts the skyrocket and
Speaker 1: just have a great name of our tears show where
Speaker 1: to do. It's called Tears for Fears, Fears for Fears
Speaker 1: or I come up with lots of bands, very famous band?
Speaker 1: Is it really? Do I not know that? Then tears?
Speaker 1: Is it like a Dave Matthews bands? No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Bones would kill you for not knowing this. Fears for Fears.
Speaker 1: It's like a throwback banders, Yes, yes it is. You
Speaker 1: know what I wrote Tears for Fears, but I spelt
Speaker 1: out tears like positional tears, like t I will play
Speaker 1: this when we come back to the brain. The song
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to Rule the World Mad World. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that Mad World is a very famous song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mad World, Yes, originally there's a lot of people from
Speaker 1: this era who make great music, but you don't know
Speaker 1: who made it. I was gonna call the original name
Speaker 1: of the show was Tears for Tears. I thought that
Speaker 1: was very creative as well, Tears for Tears. But I
Speaker 1: have to figure out, like what we would do to
Speaker 1: make it special, Like what do we put especial into
Speaker 1: we're tearing out up while we're doing this, Like if
Speaker 1: you miss out on a tear when you start sing. Well,
Speaker 1: that was the idea, but I would want to make
Speaker 1: sure we had tears coming out, and then I would
Speaker 1: fill the and then I would make you full fill
Speaker 1: the board for the show with the crying emojor. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. Look forward to that sometime we're
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Speaker 1: all right, doesn't one yes, because we can get a chance.
Speaker 1: Talking about yesterday, brend LaFell was cut by the Bengals
Speaker 1: and he was like, listen, I wanted my release. I've
Speaker 1: been asked you for for months. I realized that they're
Speaker 1: going in a different direction. I wanted out. I wanted
Speaker 1: to move on. We joked about him going back the
Speaker 1: Patriots and the whole physical thing um with Eric Decker,
Speaker 1: but we didn't really get into is it replaces Brandon Fell?
Speaker 1: John Ross played like one game and then they tried
Speaker 1: to turn and even do a quarterback for a little while.
Speaker 1: Then he got hurt and then he backs the wide
Speaker 1: receiver and then trying to turn into a quarterback again.
Speaker 1: And this dude was top ten pick, and there's like,
Speaker 1: what is going on? Well, Brendain felt gone, Tyler Boyd
Speaker 1: has already proven not to be all that good and
Speaker 1: he's fine, He's like whatever. Tyler Efforts never healthy, which
Speaker 1: means theoretically this would open up a spot for John
Speaker 1: Ross to have a little value here. I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people, Jake Selley in particular, who are
Speaker 1: very high on Mike Williams. Should more people be high
Speaker 1: on John Ross rank? I think he fits his role
Speaker 1: on the team within the offense. Look a J Green
Speaker 1: is always going to be the top target getter in
Speaker 1: this offense. And no believe it or not, Greg, you
Speaker 1: killed me for Jordan read the other day, Tyler Efforts
Speaker 1: picking up some scene rock in the fantasy just because
Speaker 1: of his price. Because of his price, Greg, you're getting
Speaker 1: this guy as one of your last picks. If you
Speaker 1: play in a sixteen round draft, you're getting him in
Speaker 1: the fourteen fifteenth round. That's why Tyler Effort is picking
Speaker 1: up some steam right now. But regardless if it's Tyler Eiffort,
Speaker 1: if it's Tyler Croft, Andy Dalton has always leaned on
Speaker 1: the tight end a little bit in the red zone. Um,
Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's much to go around here.
Speaker 1: Even if John Ross is healthy, like I think he'll
Speaker 1: fit his role on the team. Maybe he'll see like three,
Speaker 1: four or five deep shots down the field. He can
Speaker 1: catch one two of those. Maybe he has some big games,
Speaker 1: some blow up games. You want to take a shot
Speaker 1: in him in best ball, There's no chance I'm drafting
Speaker 1: him in redraft. And if you ask me, I actually
Speaker 1: think Tyler Boyd has been a little bit underappreciated by
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. I think he should have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to have a bigger role in this offense. You start
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, you start a J. Green on as the
Speaker 1: outside wide receivers, and then you kind of bring John
Speaker 1: Ross in for certain packages and he plays his role
Speaker 1: as the deep ball specialist. Can his offense have a player,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver pass catcher worth owning other than a J. Green?
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Tyler Eifford rising up draft boards, and
Speaker 1: he's always been touchdown maker when never anywhere really elves
Speaker 1: on the field. Can it because is there where is
Speaker 1: it worth owning someone else? I think whoever the tight
Speaker 1: end is, while Tyler Effort is healthy, he's worth roster
Speaker 1: as your tight end too. Like I know, the game's
Speaker 1: played are absolutely brutal, but it's just the price that
Speaker 1: he's going for right now. If he starts to go,
Speaker 1: you know, ten eleven, twelve round, absolutely not, don't even
Speaker 1: take a shot in him. I'm not worrying about that.
Speaker 1: Because a J. Green demands so many targets, GEO Ronnie
Speaker 1: Bernard catches the ball, we expect Joe Mixing to take
Speaker 1: a step forward. I don't think that this offense can
Speaker 1: support a number two receiver, especially wide receiver that is
Speaker 1: fantasy viable in my opinion, unless something were to happen
Speaker 1: to a J. Green. Greg, do you believe that Mike
Speaker 1: Williams would be is a more complete receiver than John Ross.
Speaker 1: Mike Williams absolutely, okay, yes, I mean people were talking
Speaker 1: about him being more talented in Corey Davis last year
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the back injury. Yeah. But John Ross,
Speaker 1: I mean it was just a terrible pick. And we've
Speaker 1: seen this happen from the Bengals. I don't know why
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis still has his job. That's you save that
Speaker 1: for another show. But the John Ross pick solely happened
Speaker 1: because he ran an amazing forty. He should not have
Speaker 1: been a top ten pick some people. Most people had
Speaker 1: him as a second third round pick. Yet he went
Speaker 1: inside the top ten. I think it was just a
Speaker 1: brutal pick by the Bengals. Okay, so where is Mike
Speaker 1: Williams going a DP wise right now? He's starting to
Speaker 1: gain some steam as well. He's probably receiver fifty four
Speaker 1: off the board. That's why. That's what I meant to
Speaker 1: ask you, because I knew you had that information available
Speaker 1: for you. Um, Mike Williams is fifty four off the
Speaker 1: board right now, Corney NFC. Which what is that? Overall?
Speaker 1: I didn't write that down. Okay, so he's he's he's climbing.
Speaker 1: That's in Fantasy pros now. I heard Ronus was on
Speaker 1: on Target the other day with Jake Seely and he said,
Speaker 1: in the f f w C, Mike Williams is going
Speaker 1: inside the top eighty. Excuse me, the top eighty, Greg,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, the Los Angeles Chargers. Why is this? I
Speaker 1: can't give you an answer. I mean other players who
Speaker 1: are going right inside the top eighty Your boy Robert
Speaker 1: Woods at eight two, ridiculous man, Emmanuel Sanders at eighty nine.
Speaker 1: I mean, unless I heard it wrong, but I thought
Speaker 1: I heard that he was going at pick seventy eight
Speaker 1: in the ff w C, which should not be a thing.
Speaker 1: According to Fantasy proceeds going double beat right now in
Speaker 1: the one fifties, which makes more sense, doesnt I get it? Everybody?
Speaker 1: Everybody loves the Allen Chargers this year, like everybody's on
Speaker 1: board despite losing Jason Barette again before the season even begins,
Speaker 1: but they're looking at the improved offensive line. Everyone is
Speaker 1: healthy for now, although Hunter he's hurt. We have bought
Speaker 1: in hard on Keenan Allen, you and I and really
Speaker 1: the whole industry is kind of just He's settled now,
Speaker 1: but older than that. I'm gonna ask you the same
Speaker 1: question I asked you when it came to the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Is there another pass catcher on this team that is
Speaker 1: worth owning? Like, obviously we like Melvin Gordon as a
Speaker 1: first round pick. Obviously we like Keenan Allen as a
Speaker 1: second round pick. Other than that is there somebody else
Speaker 1: we should own that we have to we should go
Speaker 1: out of our waist to get, Like Mike Williams is
Speaker 1: the one that's climbing. Of course, there's Tyrelle Williams there,
Speaker 1: there's Travis Benjamin there, and there's Mike Williams. And everybody
Speaker 1: believes cream rises to the top. Mike Williams a former
Speaker 1: first round pick. They literally drafted him a compliment Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: He's a bigger dude. He should be able to muscle
Speaker 1: his way in the red zone. All these signs and
Speaker 1: up to a successful season for Mike Williams. Will the
Speaker 1: back remain healthy? Will he remain healthy? In other regards?
Speaker 1: Can he play all sixteen games? So the question I
Speaker 1: asked is the same with the Bengals, Frank, is there
Speaker 1: another pass catcher that that you were going out of
Speaker 1: your way to get not named Melvin Gordon and not
Speaker 1: named Keenan Allen. Yeah, and I think Mike Williams does
Speaker 1: fit that mold here, you know, not inside the top eighty,
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe inside the top one thirty. If
Speaker 1: he starts to rise that high, I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with him around, you know, wide receiver fifty in
Speaker 1: that range. If he starts to move up, then he's
Speaker 1: gonna be off my board. But I think if he's
Speaker 1: going in that range, it does make sense. The guy
Speaker 1: does have pedigree, he has upside. We saw what he
Speaker 1: did in college. Another wide receiver who played at Clemson.
Speaker 1: We spoke about Dion Kane the other day, and you know,
Speaker 1: really a lot of the wide receivers who have come
Speaker 1: out of Clemson have been very fantasy viable. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that everybody is going to be, but obviously what
Speaker 1: he did in college, I think you have to account
Speaker 1: for that. And look, there's no tight end there as
Speaker 1: of now Antonio Gate. It's ken sign. Even if he does,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of a role he'll have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll probably be in there during the red zone. But
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is missing. You know what was supposed to
Speaker 1: be Hunter Henry this year. You know, I think Mike
Speaker 1: Williams is a better all around wide receiver than Tyrolle Williams.
Speaker 1: And it's not a knock on him. I think Tyroll
Speaker 1: Williams and Benjamin they have their roles. They can catch
Speaker 1: deep balls down the field as well, But Mike Williams
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and we're all around wide receiver talent,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, if he's going around one
Speaker 1: for that range, he's worth taking. You start to push
Speaker 1: him up around one hundred or even above that, I'm
Speaker 1: probably not getting involved. Greg in Seattle we talk, this
Speaker 1: is the conversation remains the same to me. Trying to
Speaker 1: find another pass catcher now, Doug Baldwin you spoke about yesterday.
Speaker 1: All the air off the air. They're dropping him into
Speaker 1: the Maori Cooper type territory, which I believe is towards
Speaker 1: the back end of the fourth round, right back into
Speaker 1: the third. Sorry, So that's where you back Doug ball
Speaker 1: into you louse, Jimmy Graham, You lose Paul Richardson, who
Speaker 1: you love. He shot Penny. I know that. But who
Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson throwing the ball too? Is there a
Speaker 1: second pass catcher on this team that you want to own?
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Lockett is actually being a little bit disrespected,
Speaker 1: and people have tried to do this before, and we
Speaker 1: got excited about him a couple of years ago. But
Speaker 1: look at where he's going. According to Fantasy Pros, wide
Speaker 1: receiver sixty four off the board pick one seventy four.
Speaker 1: I think we'll start to see his ADP rise now
Speaker 1: as well. With the injury to Doug Baldwin, he could
Speaker 1: end up being the de facto number one target in
Speaker 1: this offense until Doug Baldwin is healthy. And there's still
Speaker 1: a chance that he can be. But remember Tyler Lockett's
Speaker 1: rookie season. I mean, he had six hundred sixty four
Speaker 1: yards six touchdowns. He's a speedster, not necessarily an all
Speaker 1: around wide receiver talent that Doug Baldwin is, but just
Speaker 1: based on volume, Uh, he's gonna have an opportunity this year.
Speaker 1: And I know normally the Seahawks kind of mix and
Speaker 1: match who their wide receiver two is. Last year was
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson. But while Tyler Lockett is healthy, I think
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the number two wide received
Speaker 1: we're out there on the outside, Brandon Marshall, he'll have
Speaker 1: his role maybe within the red zone if he even
Speaker 1: makes the team. UM I put out a pull yesterday
Speaker 1: ship the Seahawks signed Does Bryant. That might resurface as well,
Speaker 1: but as of now, you have to be in on
Speaker 1: tire Locket just based on the opportunity. I believe Greg Lockett.
Speaker 1: I know because I'm gonna go an old adage that
Speaker 1: the King once told me. What do you say it
Speaker 1: about Tyler Lockett though he plays with the Seahawks. Probably not,
Speaker 1: But I want to say anyway, and you know what
Speaker 1: it is, Opportunity doesn't always create lead to production. Correct,
Speaker 1: Tyre Lockett's had his chances. You could tell me that
Speaker 1: he hasn't been healthy. You can tell me that he's
Speaker 1: finally the best shape of his life, and that Doug
Speaker 1: ballams Her and Paul Rigerson is not there, and Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall's old as f Remember, Tyre Lockett became a thing
Speaker 1: last year too, like him and Paul Richardson the teams
Speaker 1: like they were games where they were switching off. We
Speaker 1: were trying to make Tyler Lockett a thing again. Last year.
Speaker 1: You're telling me this team loses targets from Jimmy Graham,
Speaker 1: loses eight targets from Paul Richardson, and we're just not
Speaker 1: moving Tyler lock It up the draft board. That doesn't
Speaker 1: seem fair to him. Greg, And I know you might
Speaker 1: have been burned by him before, but based on the
Speaker 1: target share that is available on this team and the
Speaker 1: injury to Doug Baldwin. I think the next man up
Speaker 1: is Tyler Lockett. I know Scott is talking about Ron Brown.
Speaker 1: I am so happy Brown. You're taking Brian Schottenheimer's wide
Speaker 1: receiver too. That's what you're doing. You could be the
Speaker 1: wide receiver one until Doug Balwin's healthy. I just want
Speaker 1: to make that clear. That's what you're doing. But this
Speaker 1: defense is not good, Greg, like, yeah, they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to run or anything. We'll talk about my former Jets
Speaker 1: offensive coordinated like this. I just realized I skipped Gio
Speaker 1: Bernar Wenna talk about the Bengals. He finishes RB twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Last season we talked about all these people are running
Speaker 1: backs and basically mentioned Chris Thompson every day. This week
Speaker 1: we did a whole PPR running back show with e
Speaker 1: Y and we never even got to Givanni Bernard. Is
Speaker 1: he just a forgotten man or? And should he be forgotten?
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be forgotten, and that's why I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring him up. We did you know players yesterday who
Speaker 1: you shouldn't forget about, players who might be sleeping on
Speaker 1: Here's the past four years from Gio Bernard. He finished
Speaker 1: RB twenty nine last year, RB forty one, sixteen, RB
Speaker 1: eighteen and fifteen, RB seventeen and fourteen. His percentage of
Speaker 1: snaps the last four years fifty percent, thirty six percent,
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent. This is part of what's holding me
Speaker 1: back from really considering Joe Mixon in that early third
Speaker 1: round range where he's going. He's going in the second
Speaker 1: round in some drafts right now, Joe Mixon, that is.
Speaker 1: And I just worried because Gio Bernard is always going
Speaker 1: to have a role in this offense. Are they completely
Speaker 1: get rid of him and just use Joe Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: to the max? I don't expect that to happen. Is
Speaker 1: Gio Bernard is always gonna have a role on the team,
Speaker 1: especially in PPR. I think you can do a lot
Speaker 1: worse than getting him as your RB five as a
Speaker 1: bye week replacement in PPR formats. And honestly, he's going
Speaker 1: later than that Greg because he's not the sexy pick.
Speaker 1: Yes he's not even remotely sexy, but he almost seems
Speaker 1: like a waste of a pick in a way. And
Speaker 1: I know the stat I just read. They finished the
Speaker 1: top thirty running nack last year. Are you ever you're
Speaker 1: gonna feel comfortable starting him though. I just mentioned PPR
Speaker 1: as a bye week replacement. That's how. And if you
Speaker 1: draft Joe Mixon for where he's going RB fifty three,
Speaker 1: you handcuff him as well, no doubt about it. Yes,
Speaker 1: totally agree with that. But if you don't draft Show Mason,
Speaker 1: he's a bye week replacement, I'd rather in all honesty,
Speaker 1: he usually managed pot for somebody that could break out.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I don't have a problem with that, but
Speaker 1: I think in full point PPR. Just reading out what
Speaker 1: he's in the past couple of years, and again those
Speaker 1: finishes were in half point PPR, it might have been
Speaker 1: even better in a full point PPR. I just think
Speaker 1: he has his cemented role in this offense. You might
Speaker 1: be a guy who goes undrafted, honestly, and then when
Speaker 1: you need the bye week replacement, you end of picking
Speaker 1: him up. Now, he Haines has been a one of
Speaker 1: the guys in the fantasy community that everybody loves, and
Speaker 1: because of that, Marlon Maxman ever forgotten mad Like everybody,
Speaker 1: there's not one expert that's like, oh yeah, I love
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack. This here everybody's all about nahem hinz. Some
Speaker 1: people are in a Jordan Wilkins, but mostly it's been
Speaker 1: about Nahee Heines. Frank, before you rave about Heinz, can
Speaker 1: you describe to everybody why you don't like Marlin Mack?
Speaker 1: Because Max is the starter, He's a starting running back,
Speaker 1: he's who fantasy the starter? Yes? Who? Fantasy experts wanted
Speaker 1: to get all these touches last year and he didn't.
Speaker 1: He couldn't understand why they're running with old, asked Frank Gore. Right,
Speaker 1: like it was why more? Why not more Mac? Why
Speaker 1: not more Mac? And now when we have more Mac,
Speaker 1: every expert is like, I don't no more Mac, Normack,
Speaker 1: no more mad Right, So why don't you like Marlon Mack?
Speaker 1: Tell the people why they should not draft Marlin Mack. So,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's going in the sixth, seventh round,
Speaker 1: and some people are looking at that like a steel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could get the Colts starting running back. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: he is not going to be the cold starting running back,
Speaker 1: and even if he is, it won't be long before
Speaker 1: the starting tandem on this team becomes Jordan Wilkins on
Speaker 1: early downs and Naheem Heines on passing downs. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: even a role where Wilkins and Hines are on the
Speaker 1: field at the same time. Allaw Jordan Howard and Syrie Cohen.
Speaker 1: But Marlin Mac you just look at the way he plays.
Speaker 1: I just think he's too boom er bust. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is when things are breaking down
Speaker 1: on a play, he tries too hard to make stuff happen.
Speaker 1: He was among the top three running backs last year
Speaker 1: who either gained zero yards or negative yardage last season.
Speaker 1: That was as a rookie. Now you could say, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, maybe he progresses. I'm just not
Speaker 1: buying in. I think I've watched enough of Marlon Mack
Speaker 1: to know that he just tries too hard to bounce
Speaker 1: things out to the outside to make too much happen.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Wilkins more of a prototypical early downs runner.
Speaker 1: And remember the new coaching staff here, they don't have
Speaker 1: ties to Marlon Mack. That was the previous regime that
Speaker 1: drafted him. They don't owe him anything. This coaching staff
Speaker 1: went out and they drafted Naheim Hines. They went out
Speaker 1: and they drafted Jordan Wilkins. Frank Reich comes from the
Speaker 1: Eagles system where they like to use multi multiple running backs.
Speaker 1: So maybe the answer is nobody. Maybe you don't want anybody.
Speaker 1: But I just think based on where Hines and Wilkins
Speaker 1: are going in that eleven twelfth round range, you take
Speaker 1: a shot there, whereas Marlon you have to pay six
Speaker 1: seventh round price tag, you won't be on any of
Speaker 1: my team. It's amazing that people always talk about him
Speaker 1: bouncing around and the negative the yards, and it's all true.
Speaker 1: He does like to bounce it outside. Do you know
Speaker 1: our our favorite website player profiler. Do you know who
Speaker 1: they believe the best comparison to Marlon Mack is? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What do we used to say this about back in
Speaker 1: the day, someone who likes to only bounce he's currently
Speaker 1: active the player they believe the best comparisons? I remember
Speaker 1: we used to say this about somebody else too, we did,
Speaker 1: for sure? Is it that player Maltarles Marshawn Lynch the
Speaker 1: opposite of what you're saying? Well, I mean, just because
Speaker 1: player profile compliments, that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you what will you be in on Marlon Mack?
Speaker 1: Will you have any Marlon max shares? I can see
Speaker 1: myself were on chair. Now. To be fair, two years ago,
Speaker 1: I also had to Jeremy Lankford chair and everybody was
Speaker 1: off Jeremy Lankford. I went the other way. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: give me a Jeremy Lankford chair. Backed that up with
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard as well. I didn't draft him. I think
Speaker 1: I need some some bad one here. Um, but you
Speaker 1: just you love the Bears running backs, h I like
Speaker 1: the Bears running back Barry lank for Jordan Howard. Those
Speaker 1: are your guys again, as you should be. He's great,
Speaker 1: he's great. Man. Um, there you go. I have the
Speaker 1: exact stat here that I mentioned Greg. It was according
Speaker 1: to the Indie Star, Mac finished second in the league
Speaker 1: and percentage of runs that went for no yards or
Speaker 1: less thirty two point two percent of his runs went
Speaker 1: for no yards or less. I know the offensive line
Speaker 1: was bad, but at some point you gotta start to
Speaker 1: run north south. You can't just run east west all
Speaker 1: the time. I think that's part of the problem with
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack. Okay, I'm out. You're out before we get
Speaker 1: the ADP duels. One last note to mention Ben Watson
Speaker 1: back in New Orleans, where everything went right for him
Speaker 1: and Dixon up in Seattle and a good year in Carolina.
Speaker 1: Are you getting in on Ben Watson or Ben Watson
Speaker 1: or and Dixon? Um? I think these are guys. These
Speaker 1: guys are just later tight end. Two is that you're
Speaker 1: taking the best ball format guys that I have been
Speaker 1: targeting more so Ben Watson because we saw him just
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago have a pretty good rapport
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. I don't think he's done yet. We
Speaker 1: saw that last year playing in Baltimore with the Ravens
Speaker 1: um So. I don't think there's an immense upside with
Speaker 1: a Ben Watson, but I think in a best ball
Speaker 1: format you get him as you're tight end to something
Speaker 1: like that, a bye week replacement. I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with him at Dixon. It just goes back to
Speaker 1: the Seahawks don't have a lot of pass catchers right now,
Speaker 1: and we've we've seen glimpses of Ed Dixon having fantasy value.
Speaker 1: Last year was with the Carolina Panthers. I know Scott
Speaker 1: likes Nick Vannette as well. Whoever starts at tight end there.
Speaker 1: We saw last year what Russell Wilson did with Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham at Dixon is not the player that Jimmy Graham is,
Speaker 1: but they needs someone to catch the ball there. I
Speaker 1: think it's a tight end too, in the best ball
Speaker 1: format or maybe a deeper format this year. I like
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Speaker 1: of the centures upon us. All right, so how does
Speaker 1: this is gonna Work'll put your sword death I'm sorry, Gregory.
Speaker 1: So we have a bunch of ADPs that are very
Speaker 1: very similar. So some I can I agree with, all right,
Speaker 1: we definitely want one guy. Other times we're on very
Speaker 1: opposite sides, and we will duel until the death, till
Speaker 1: the death, till the fantasy death. Multiple times I didn't
Speaker 1: say no, not death death death death life death, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean this is Vlarian is Vlarian steel Lerian steel
Speaker 1: dueling swords. Are you ready? I'm ready for the first duel?
Speaker 1: Hit me that duel music, Sean, He's right on it.
Speaker 1: I love that. It's a great producer. Pick seventy six.
Speaker 1: It's Will Fuller versus Jamison Crowner. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't want to do yet until we know where you are.
Speaker 1: When you like it that back, I would be taking
Speaker 1: Jamis Sintre Crowder regardless of Formac brig Sus agree well
Speaker 1: of the must love Jamison Crowder this year. Um, no
Speaker 1: matter what format it is, we know Alex Smith is
Speaker 1: gonna fall in love with this dude. Um. Josh Doctson
Speaker 1: has already hurt. This is like the lock of the
Speaker 1: world to me, is him bouncing back? I love James
Speaker 1: Crowder this year. Yeah, I know some people drafted him
Speaker 1: in the fourth fifth round. I did so in my
Speaker 1: home league last year and I got burnt. But when
Speaker 1: you play fantasy football or fantasy anything, really, yep, you
Speaker 1: gotta be short. Is it short minded? You mean a
Speaker 1: short sighted? Short sighted? You can't remember last year the
Speaker 1: fact that he burned you. It's a new year, it's
Speaker 1: a new quarterback, still same old system. We know that
Speaker 1: Alex Smith likes to target the middle of the field
Speaker 1: a lot, and we're already getting reports out of camp
Speaker 1: that Jamison crowd and Alex Smith are a match made
Speaker 1: in heaven. That's exactly what we thought it was going
Speaker 1: to be, and it looks like it's going to come
Speaker 1: to fruition. I think there's a chance we get a
Speaker 1: d plus receptions this year, six seven touchdowns, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit lighter on the touchdowns, but especially in half
Speaker 1: point PPR, full point PPR. I love Jameson Crowder and
Speaker 1: it's not a knock on will Fuller, but everything we've
Speaker 1: heard about will Fuller touchdown regression. What was it? Last year?
Speaker 1: He had four teen receptions. I think half of them
Speaker 1: were touchdowns, and he played amazing with Deshaun Watson. Shawn
Speaker 1: Watson is healthy. We saw how bad will Fuller has
Speaker 1: been without the likes of Deshaun Watson. He's been a
Speaker 1: little inconsistent his hands, He's a little bit touchdown dependents.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is always going to be the top target
Speaker 1: getter there. I don't really mind where will Fuller is
Speaker 1: going in terms of his a DP and his value,
Speaker 1: especially in standard leagues. I think he's gonna score maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he'll score more touchdowns in Jamison Crowder, but Crowder
Speaker 1: to me, definitely more receptions, more receiving yards this year.
Speaker 1: For that reason, I lean James Crowder. You talk about
Speaker 1: that touchdown regression or a touch regression when it comes
Speaker 1: to U Alvin Kamara, you're obviously gonna see what will
Speaker 1: Foller the touchdown you have to Are you completely out
Speaker 1: on will Fuller? I don't want to be um, but
Speaker 1: I'm a feeling people are gonna be higher on him
Speaker 1: than I have him. Seventy six puts him like the
Speaker 1: early seventh round that it's not terrible value ittually in
Speaker 1: a standard the seventh round, what am I getting them
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver playing? It's my wide receiver four
Speaker 1: that's awesome. No, he won't be will be your wide
Speaker 1: receiver three, He's wide receiver twenty eight off the board
Speaker 1: right now? Oh gosh, when Fantasy pros going ahead of
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan. Okay, that's just blasphemous, but I agree, I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that value, just not ahead Chris Hogan. Shall
Speaker 1: we do it again? I just want to see where
Speaker 1: I have Fuller in my rankings as of right now,
Speaker 1: have him seven and standards, So some guys right ahead
Speaker 1: of him, it's probably moved ahead of Pierre soon s
Speaker 1: fore more touchdowns. But Cooper Cup, Robby Anderson, Emmanuel Sanders,
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder, Randall Cobb. Do you have a problem with
Speaker 1: any of those guys going ahead of Wolf Fuller when
Speaker 1: we's on Ranald Cobb, Jamison Crowder, Emmanuel Sanders, Robby Anderson,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and the standard lead. I think I'd rather
Speaker 1: will follow the Cooper Cup. All right, that's fair. That's
Speaker 1: so that's only one rank off, but that's in that
Speaker 1: thirty six in a in a non league, and definitely
Speaker 1: I definitely rather have Wolf full Okay, right, that's fair. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do get it again, Sean, here we go it's
Speaker 1: getting tough for folks. Pick thirty one Stefon Diggs Hire Hill.
Speaker 1: It will be taking Diggs sense one, it's all gladder
Speaker 1: and otherwise. Like Stefon Diggs, I pick thirty one over
Speaker 1: Tyree Crop. You know where I stand. Frank takes five
Speaker 1: the turtle. No do it yet. I can choose one
Speaker 1: that we're on opposite ends of crag getting. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to build that too. So far I knew exactly your
Speaker 1: position of both of them, Bote, like Stefon Diggs over
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. Um, you can sorry about the way Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes all the interceptions in camp thus far, it's a
Speaker 1: big story. Yeah, No, not for me. Actually, I enjoy
Speaker 1: this because I think it's gonna it could push his
Speaker 1: a DP down a little bit. I have him inside
Speaker 1: my top twelve at quarterbacks here, I have him as
Speaker 1: my QB eleven. I think there's immense upside when it
Speaker 1: comes down to with Patrick Mahomes. And this might be
Speaker 1: foolish to say, I don't know how he fails. I
Speaker 1: can't see a scenario where he fails unless he's throwing
Speaker 1: so many picks and putting the Chiefs in a position
Speaker 1: every week where they're losing that that maybe that's the
Speaker 1: only way. But given the talent that he has around him,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelsey, Kareem Hunt, I just
Speaker 1: think when you have that much talent, how can you fail?
Speaker 1: And not only that, he can take off with his legs.
Speaker 1: So I'm very much so in on Patrick Mahomes this year.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this. I actually hope it drives
Speaker 1: his a DP down. Gregg alright, so there you go,
Speaker 1: fair enough. The reason I take Stefon Diggs, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this either. It's just I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to a UM, a rookie, a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be essentially a rookie quarterback. Everyone's gonna be
Speaker 1: narrowly in on every mistake and every interception, like if
Speaker 1: Eli Manning throws all these interceptions to even the saying
Speaker 1: a word. The reason I take Stefon Digs over Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill is basically just because of volume. And last year,
Speaker 1: you know, Tyree Hill was held under a hundred and
Speaker 1: ten targets and I've tweeted this out before drink in
Speaker 1: terms of targets, share on this team, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey,
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Doesn't it worry you a little bit because
Speaker 1: you just don't know who's gonna be the most targeted
Speaker 1: wide receiver in this offense. I mean, maybe both got
Speaker 1: all the three of these guys are between a hundred
Speaker 1: and a hundred and ten targets this year. Maybe Kelsey
Speaker 1: fluctuates a little bit up, maybe Sammy Watkins fluctuates a
Speaker 1: little bit down. I just think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: volatility between the target share of those three receivers on
Speaker 1: the team right now. Now. I think the reason why
Speaker 1: I like Patrick Mahomes is because he benefits from all
Speaker 1: of it. Regardless of who's catching the passes, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is gonna benefit. But I do think there's a chance
Speaker 1: that all three of these guys could take away from
Speaker 1: each other. And part of the reason why I'm in
Speaker 1: on Sammy Watkins this year, Greg is because you're getting
Speaker 1: a two three round discount, whereas Kelsey and Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: you have to pay a third round price tag to
Speaker 1: get these guys. If they're all getting similar targets, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you take the guy who's going to three rounds later?
Speaker 1: That's why I like Sammy Watkinson. If you ask me,
Speaker 1: I think he's the best all around wide receiver on
Speaker 1: the team. That's why I like Watkins. That's why I'm
Speaker 1: souring a little bit on Tyreek Hill right now. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Let's do John Kill. It's the highest pick
Speaker 1: of these Pick seventeen. Davante Adams Keenan Alan. My boys
Speaker 1: are your boys. I will be taking Keenan Alan regardless
Speaker 1: of format races. I honestly don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: which want to pick. I love them vault so much,
Speaker 1: but ultimately, when it comes down the way, I will
Speaker 1: select Davante Adams. You care to duel let's tay ha ha. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for me, these guys are extremely extremely close. Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen with no Antonio Gates there as of now, but
Speaker 1: no Hunter Henry. He's going to be the player that
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers throws to more than anyone all over the field.
Speaker 1: I love both of these guys. They both have their
Speaker 1: injury issues. Davante Adams with the concussions, Keenan Allen with
Speaker 1: his entire body just being brittle. Will they both remain healthy?
Speaker 1: I don't know what is the determining factor. What is
Speaker 1: the one thing that pulled me toward Davanta Adams, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I'll take Aaron Rodgers. I'll take Tavanta Adams. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're wrong. If you like Keenan Allen Moore, I
Speaker 1: love him. As I said, I'd lean Davonte Adams only
Speaker 1: because of Aaron Rodgers, not saying Philip Rivers is a
Speaker 1: slouch passing the ball. He's not Aaron Rodgers. That's fair
Speaker 1: if you want to use that as you're determining factor.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. You want to take,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best quarterbacks we've ever seen
Speaker 1: play of the game, that's fine. I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: with volume here. I think the fact that Antonio Gates
Speaker 1: isn't there yet. Even if he's there, he's an older
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates now, Mike Williams, you don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with the back injury there. Ian and Allen had
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty nine targets last year. Greg that
Speaker 1: was top five among wide receivers. I think Devanta Adams
Speaker 1: his targets are gonna go up this year. He's gonna
Speaker 1: see a career career high in targets as the wide
Speaker 1: receiver one or the Packers. But don't forget keen and
Speaker 1: Allen actually lead the Chargers in red zone targets last year.
Speaker 1: He was number two in the entire NFL in twenty
Speaker 1: four red zone targets. Yeah, he only had six touchdowns
Speaker 1: on a hundred and fifty nine overall targets. I think
Speaker 1: we see positive touchdown regression for Keenan Allen. I think
Speaker 1: we see him maybe in that eight to ten touchdown
Speaker 1: range based on these targets and the reason why I
Speaker 1: take him over Davante Adams. Davanta Adams might outscore him
Speaker 1: in terms of touchdowns. I think Keenan Allen has more
Speaker 1: receptions in the receiving yards I can see. I can
Speaker 1: see all of that. I can't really argue it because
Speaker 1: it's so close to me. There is I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a wrong answer either. I have both ranked ahead
Speaker 1: of A. J. Green. By the way, I completely and
Speaker 1: utterly agree with that bowl ahead of Mike Evans as well.
Speaker 1: All Right, so let's not like to the death for
Speaker 1: that one. That was. That was a nice duel. That
Speaker 1: was a nice duel. But this next one. This is tough.
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Because this is a fatal four way match?
Speaker 1: Four hit it Sean at pick? Would you rather draft
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones, Royce Freeman, Rashan Penny or Darius Guys yea,
Speaker 1: I will be taking Darius guys of that group, right,
Speaker 1: Let's make it a triple threat match because I agree
Speaker 1: get rid of Darius Guys. Who would you take Rashod Penny,
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones or Royce Freeman. I will be taking Rashad Penny,
Speaker 1: Greg Sussman. And now it's one on one because I
Speaker 1: also will takesh Penny, Ronald Jones, Royce Freeman. I will
Speaker 1: be taking Ronald Jones, Greg Sussman. I will take Royce Freeman.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha, even all over Ronald Jones, even over
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones all preseason? Why him over Royce Freeman? Now
Speaker 1: I trust Ronald Jones a little bit more. They use
Speaker 1: higher draft capital on him. They use a second round pick,
Speaker 1: whereas the Denver Broncos used a third round pick on
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman. It's not that big of a difference, but
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos continue to talk up Vontae Booker. I think
Speaker 1: he'll have a little bit more of a role than
Speaker 1: a Peyton Barba will for the Tampa Bay Bucks. But
Speaker 1: you just look at what the Bucks lacked the past
Speaker 1: couple of years. They have lacked an explosive running back.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they got in Ronald Jones. I think
Speaker 1: he has the ability to break away at any point
Speaker 1: in a game. His player comp was actually Jamal Charles.
Speaker 1: I think that's very high praise. He didn't catch the
Speaker 1: ball all that much in college, but as we've seen,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you can't catch the ball. It
Speaker 1: just means maybe you weren't used in that capacity at
Speaker 1: the college level. I like Royce Freeman a lot, Greig,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But if I'm choosing one of
Speaker 1: these two, it's Ronald Jones. Listen. I think it's close. Also,
Speaker 1: that's why it's an a d V duel, and that's
Speaker 1: why they're being drafted close together. Royce Freeman more so
Speaker 1: to me, I think that Ronald Jones, for what I've read,
Speaker 1: it's kind of exploding a cap. But I don't believe
Speaker 1: in Davante Booker. I don't believe in D'angela Henderson. I
Speaker 1: think Royce Freeman is somebody that with a good offense.
Speaker 1: I think, with a solid quarterback in case heen um
Speaker 1: um wide receivers that we certainly trust, Manuel Sanders, Denarius Thomas.
Speaker 1: I think Royce Freeman could be that next running back
Speaker 1: we were waiting for for the Broncos. We wanted to
Speaker 1: be c. J. Henderson, we wanted it to be Jamati Booker.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. I think Royce Freeman could be that guy.
Speaker 1: They spent a high pick on this dude. They gonna
Speaker 1: give him every opportunity. He's looked very good at thus
Speaker 1: far in the spring. He's one of the guys in
Speaker 1: the playoffs that I'm excited about. That playoffs in the
Speaker 1: preseason I'm excited about. And don't get me wrong, I
Speaker 1: like Royce Freeman as well. Greg. I have these guys
Speaker 1: ranked back to back my standard rankings as of right now,
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones at pick two, Royce Freeman at three. Amongst
Speaker 1: running backs. I do like Freeman a lot. People don't realize.
Speaker 1: They just see, oh, he's five eleven, two thirty. He's
Speaker 1: just big, bulky back. It's seventy nine career receptions at Oregon.
Speaker 1: You can actually catch the ball. It is time for
Speaker 1: a final pass catcher, a DP pick five. The tight
Speaker 1: end position a Laney Walker or Kyle Rudolph. I don't
Speaker 1: do this scene. I will be taking Delaney Walker. I
Speaker 1: knew you would, young squire, but that's why you shall die.
Speaker 1: Heuse I We'll take Kyle Rudolph. Is that correct? Yes?
Speaker 1: Sare to tell me why no? Because I'd rather kill you.
Speaker 1: Lenny Walker's uber consistent, Like this dude is super super consistent,
Speaker 1: and it has been for a very very long time.
Speaker 1: But Kyle Rudolph, after letting people down year after year
Speaker 1: over the last two years, he's durable and he scores
Speaker 1: more touchdowns than any time in football. It's only getting
Speaker 1: better because the quarterback is now Kirk Cousins, and who
Speaker 1: uses the tight endmore? And Kirk Cousins the answer nobody,
Speaker 1: have you kind of rude off? You don't have to
Speaker 1: sell me on Kyle Rough. I do love him, Greg.
Speaker 1: I have Kyle Rough as my tight end eight right
Speaker 1: now in standard rankings, but I have de Laney Walker
Speaker 1: all the way up at tight end five. I just
Speaker 1: think based on his consistency, what we've seen out of
Speaker 1: him the past couple of years, tight end six last
Speaker 1: year in points per game, tight End seven and twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: tight end three and fifteen. The guys basically a lock
Speaker 1: for eight hundred receiving yards. I know Corey Davis, we
Speaker 1: expect him to take the next step forward. I have
Speaker 1: no problem with that. I think Corey Davis can be
Speaker 1: the target leader on this team. I think Delaney Walker
Speaker 1: can be the second highest target getter in this offense,
Speaker 1: and that'll be enough for him to maybe not a
Speaker 1: mass eight hundred receiving yards once again, but he'll come
Speaker 1: close to it. And last year actually lead this team
Speaker 1: in red zone targets and in the end zone targets.
Speaker 1: See positive touchdown regression out of Delaney Walker six seven
Speaker 1: touchdowns close to eight hundred yards. It makes him top
Speaker 1: five tight end just a little bit better than Kyle
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams and Marshawn lynch does. That's why we're not
Speaker 1: really doing its. Marshall lynch Um carry on Johnson versus
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson's probably the dependents have a leagu you're playing right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just threw it in there because I thought you
Speaker 1: might just take Chris Thompson's back, but I knew that
Speaker 1: you're maybe his leg I knew that you did that.
Speaker 1: I know you like harry On Johnson. Moore, I would
Speaker 1: take Chris Thompson. I know you're taking harry On Johnson. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue to talk about the Detroit Lions offense
Speaker 1: and I think they're going to be a more balanced
Speaker 1: approach this here. Even with JBC. They're calling the plays.
Speaker 1: I think an improved offensive line. They draft Frank right now,
Speaker 1: they get Taylor Decker back here. They always say the
Speaker 1: same thing every week, but you have to people shy
Speaker 1: away from Detroit Lions running backs because they've been burned
Speaker 1: so many times. Greg, we have to project forward, stop
Speaker 1: looking in the past. Project forward. The team traded up
Speaker 1: to get harry On Johnson in the second round. Do
Speaker 1: you know who else they trade teams traded up for
Speaker 1: to get a running back position last year? Greg, Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. I'm not saying he's gonna be that good,
Speaker 1: but when a team trades up to get a running back,
Speaker 1: they're going to give that guy the opportunity. Were you
Speaker 1: doing this weekend showing I'm leaving to go to Myrtle
Speaker 1: Beats on Sunday Saturday? Is actually Inga's brother's birthday, so
Speaker 1: I'll be out watching UFC once headed beautiful, I mean
Speaker 1: Jersey of my family hanging out. Go to the Phillies
Speaker 1: game Sunday, but it doesn't get rained out again. It
Speaker 1: was a long night weekend, so maybe Ryan Howard will
Speaker 1: be there. I'm a fantastic weekend. Frank's out all week
Speaker 1: next week, e while will be here on Friday, hopefully
Speaker 1: some special guests along the way for Frank stamfle Al,
Speaker 1: Grex Sauceman. Thanks so much for watching. We'll do it
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