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Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming

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Speaker 1: up on this Wednesday edition. Of course, we've got the usuals,

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Speaker 1: Petros pop but Acas will stop by. We've got our

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Speaker 1: midweek awards, the leftovers, and in case you missed it,

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Speaker 1: we're also going to have a conversation about the shade

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Speaker 1: the college football Playoff. We're going to get the very

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Speaker 1: latest on the Indianapolis Colts and their conclusion that Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: at forty four years old, is the guy for the

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Speaker 1: job and what that could mean for an award that's

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Speaker 1: NFL season. Penn State's got their guy, what does it

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Speaker 1: It's all yours coming up next here, Two Pros and

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Speaker 1: a cup of Joe on a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Oh you bet your sweet ass, it's two pros and

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Speaker 2: What up? Jonas?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 2: Why's it a sweet ass? Man?

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Speaker 4: Touch Man, Serial Man, Sereal touch Man.

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Speaker 2: It's too early in the morning, Crazy touch.

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Speaker 1: day in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much.

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Speaker 5: No one and I mean no one all right, takes

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Speaker 5: the stage like one LeVar airing tee.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this has been back to back years.

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Speaker 5: Every time I look forward to this part at the

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Speaker 5: National Football Foundation event, they would introduce obviously the Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame inductees for that year, but then the past inductees.

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Speaker 5: And every time Var comes out, man, he's he's just smiling.

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Speaker 5: He's got something more stylish on than everyone else. It's

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Speaker 5: it's always it's always fun.

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Speaker 2: To see I did look pretty nice last night. You did. Man,

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Speaker 2: You're good, You're good. He's out there.

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Speaker 5: He's got more more style, more flair than everyone else

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Speaker 5: comes out.

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Speaker 2: Some people come out there's like, hey, I'm here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they just walk out. There's like they came straight from

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Speaker 2: the Senior Citizens home. Man, some of us are old. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Barry Switzer is still moving. Well, he's still moving. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's moving for you know what we were just talking.

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Speaker 5: About, though, Jonas is, uh, you know, Mike vick Gott

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Speaker 5: inducted last night, and so when I was walking in,

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Speaker 5: I kind of walked in with him and I just

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Speaker 5: looked at him. I said, dude, you should have got

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Speaker 5: in like the day you left college, Like I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what took so long. Twenty twenty five. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: know you have a comeback for that.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, have they listened.

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Speaker 2: Listen? No? No, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, come on, was Boss Hog a part of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Alright, p boss Damn.

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Speaker 2: It was a tough one. No.

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Speaker 1: So my thought is, have we figured out what the

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Speaker 1: how to get in? Because I would also say, why

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Speaker 1: the hell isn't Brady Quinn in the holly?

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Speaker 2: Whoa whoa first? First?

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Speaker 5: I first, first off? Far Terry Hanrady just got in

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Speaker 5: from Notre Day. Yeah, dude, I mean all back in

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Speaker 5: the sixth from Butler County, Like that's baby.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'll say this, I appreciate that it'd be an

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Speaker 2: That's fair. So but you still should be in the mix. Ie.

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Speaker 5: But like I said, he was, there is some because

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Speaker 5: the shots of Gus was a trip.

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Speaker 2: They brought up the MIAK Offensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it's a white dude, and what.

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Speaker 4: Dude?

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Speaker 6: Chuck Season was sitting right behind the start laughing as.

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Speaker 6: And I look over across and Chuck and I said it, Gus,

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, man, I was like the white

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Speaker 2: We got a little dang. Yeah, hell yeah, Gus, Gus

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Speaker 2: the trip man. Yeah, it was a good night though.

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Speaker 2: It was a good night.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, was was Gus vaping? Or did he? Did

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Speaker 2: Why are you? Why do you put out there? Why

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Speaker 1: I can't I'm just asking the question. You know, we

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Speaker 2: You know the answer Gus is the man. I love Gus.

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Speaker 2: They definitely no the answer.

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Speaker 1: Well, look it sounds like it.

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Speaker 2: Was what you did last night, Jonas nothing you had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Innxico.

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Speaker 2: Did you beat up your palms again? Tall laugh at

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Speaker 2: what Andy Reid called it to the Offensiveliven put them

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Speaker 2: D beaters in them? When you go to block and

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Speaker 2: put them D beaters in them? About them D beaters?

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Speaker 2: Jonahs them? What them the beaters? Yeah? I can't say

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Speaker 1: Probably cleaner and so it was.

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Speaker 4: It was along the same lines of what what we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh well, speaking of college football beater no, definitely,

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Speaker 2: But hey, man, come on, bro relaxed, he relax touch.

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Speaker 2: I saw Wilson last night. Man, weren't we just talking about?

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Speaker 2: I feel like we were just talking about yesterday? Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was talking about. I saw him good. I was

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Speaker 2: excited to see him. Man, he looks good. Guys are

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Speaker 2: staying and walked in with Brian A rackpo Rae. Man,

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Speaker 2: he's a big and he was like, dude, was like,

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Speaker 2: you still playing big? Dude? I wasn't. I wasn't quite sure.

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Speaker 4: I grabbed Eddie George from behind and I was like,

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Speaker 4: why does he still feel like this?

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Speaker 7: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Eddie can still looks like he's still playing bro? He

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Speaker 1: I forgot how I forgot how big he was until

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Speaker 1: that guy played running back like that guy played bro.

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Speaker 2: He's massively yoked up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like yoked So good for them because some

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Speaker 2: Don't venture there, don't do it far. I felt so

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Speaker 2: good last night, man. Yeah, he walks out of this thing.

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Speaker 5: They kind of put him in front of the banner

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Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here. It's you know, it's it's an act.

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Speaker 2: I'm able to put it on.

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Speaker 4: I put the face on, but behind that face, that smile,

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Speaker 2: Just I couldn't believe it. That's a huge bitch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, one day, I'm gonna figure it out one day.

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Speaker 4: Like I interviewed, you know dude that looks like a model.

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Speaker 2: I called him a different dude and the dude that

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just I see certain examples

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Speaker 2: look and feel good and I'm just not on that

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Speaker 2: list of people.

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Speaker 1: But what's the uh would you if you had to

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Speaker 2: For Oh my gosh, it's a few people. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: a few people. And so it's pretty decent production.

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Speaker 5: We think about this, how many is there one hundred

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Speaker 5: it's a hundred.

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Speaker 1: And so what's the like, is there like a cocktail

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and so the cart starts that four point thirty.

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Speaker 5: They push everyone kind of into this big, gigantic ballroom

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Speaker 2: Then you're in there just amongst like a lot of

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Speaker 2: I mean, one.

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Speaker 5: Of the things I'll say it was it was Charles

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Speaker 5: Davis MC the event so good but he's good. Blake Elliott,

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Speaker 5: he's a wide receiver from Saint John's, Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: They had the loudiest and the rowdiest four tables. They

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Speaker 2: say it looked like more than that, but they had

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Speaker 2: the tables up there in the back and they knew

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Speaker 2: to put them all the way and they were rowdy.

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Speaker 2: Shots out to you guys from Saint John's but y'all

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Speaker 2: don't know how to act. Man, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: They came up and they yeah, they might act, came

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Speaker 4: up and now I don't think they were boozed up.

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Speaker 4: They were just excited. I'm I'm making making fun of it.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, hey, man, that was a lot of support.

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Speaker 4: He was very humble too. He got when they called

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Speaker 4: him and they went crazy.

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Speaker 2: You know, you could tell it was like it meant

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Speaker 2: a lot to him that all those people came and

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Speaker 2: supported him. So it's pretty cool, man, pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: MEDICID named Connor yesterday, uh, from Saint Jude obviously part

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Speaker 4: of yeah, part of like the Shriners, you know deal.

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Speaker 4: I was at the Shriners table and they had a

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Speaker 4: great time with him and his mom and you know

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Speaker 4: the rest of the people from you know, from the Shriners.

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Speaker 2: So it was good.

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Speaker 8: It was a good night, man, It was a good night. No,

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Speaker 8: I don't do tie. I'm with you, man, I do TI.

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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie I had on my model. I

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Speaker 8: don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: What where's the tie from truth truth? What type of tie?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You're not going to say it's from

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Speaker 2: Ross or or I don't do that anyway? Can I

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Speaker 5: I think I actually have it from like our Fox

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Speaker 2: That they gave me, and I.

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Speaker 5: Took the time because I like that. Yeah, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure it's an important tie, and I'm sure

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Speaker 4: Like, the only important tie that I know is Tyrone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Tyrone? Yeah, you're Tyrone important?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he is. He's a white guy named Tyrone. How

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Speaker 2: Mit Johnson is important to me. You know you have Tyrone.

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Speaker 4: And Mike Johnson are very very close with one another.

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Speaker 4: We had daily conversations. You know, he winks at me. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: That her up, baby, Patty swihuh. Patty never cracks the

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Speaker 2: mic on the first segment, you know, where are you

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Speaker 1: Come on, Patty, pat I'm ready here.

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Speaker 2: Boys. What's up there? What's up? What's up? How are

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Speaker 1: Feeling pretty good right know. How you guys feeling in Vegas?

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Speaker 2: I mean tired?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, Yeah, there was It's just I mean, LeVar knows

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Speaker 2: I I'd probably do that longer than I should.

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Speaker 5: But man, all I know though, is I was introduced

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Speaker 5: deeper dive in the world of gambling. Dude, Calci. Like

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Speaker 5: I was trying to tell you about when we were

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Speaker 2: It is involved the futures. Betty market is wild. It's wild. Wild.

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Speaker 2: Pauly Market would be coming out soon to like all

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anybody, it'll overtake, it will overtake like the sports

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, he's telling you right now.

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Speaker 1: It's the next level, next level for sure. I've seen

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Speaker 1: Last night I got the bad beat. Oh ye, ask

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Speaker 1: Penguins leading by a goal. Okay, so I had I

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Speaker 2: Why are your nuts so sore? Poa?

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Speaker 1: He was ashamed. And I looked at him and I said, hey, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Talked to my job. Did job uh go play catch yesterday? John?

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Speaker 2: Get caught up on that man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to do basketball yesterday. So we did

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Speaker 1: Well, we got like a like a Fisher price, like

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Speaker 2: You got a nerf hoop?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like a little like a little like tikes hoop

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You guys are hanging around Hall of Famers. I'm hanging

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Speaker 2: So it seems like you live in a world of

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Speaker 2: arrested development. Bro, Do you watch that show? I've seen

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Speaker 2: it like once or twice. Man, that's what most underrated

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Speaker 2: shows of all time. Watch that show? No, because I

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Speaker 1: Wasn't arrested development of band?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Then too, and they sing it was a Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee, Yeah, Tennessee Tennessee. Philip Fomer was there last night.

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Speaker 4: Big John Henderson got in to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: That was nice seeing him. It's a big man, bro.

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Speaker 2: You know the one that is like, come on, smack me,

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Speaker 2: He's huge, sixty seven, he's huge, three hundred pounds. He's

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Speaker 4: I asked him about that too. I asked him about

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Speaker 4: the slap He's said because he was nervous. He said,

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Speaker 2: That first hit. And you know, the guys that play ball,

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Speaker 2: But once I got the first hit out of the way,

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Speaker 2: He'd be so nervous that he was like, I just

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Speaker 2: I'd be all right. I was like, did it work?

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Speaker 2: He was like I guess, so, yeah, You're just like

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Speaker 4: We started laughing, But that was that was The story

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Speaker 5: That's a real thing, you know. It is a real

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Speaker 5: boxes go through that too, right, you got to get

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Speaker 5: I feel like that with quarterbacks a little bit because

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Speaker 2: Maybe you get head, maybe you don't. Put just gets

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Speaker 4: You have so many experiences, like especially as like as

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Speaker 4: different things happen, right, Like you'll get into a game,

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Speaker 4: you hit a couple of guys and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Then you'll get into a game and you you'll hit

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Speaker 4: hitting harder, you know a season ago, You're not even

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Speaker 4: hitting as hard this year.

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Speaker 2: Like all right, we're good.

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Speaker 5: I would say college like Michigan. Yeah, like you always knew,

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Speaker 5: like the next week you were just.

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Speaker 2: You were gonna be banged up. Physical game.

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Speaker 5: It was always physical, I'd say, Like, there's a few

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Speaker 5: Michigan State, Pens State, like one of those big tennis schools, NFL.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin, Army Navy.

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Speaker 4: They were up in the house too, man, And that

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Speaker 4: was pretty cool, man, seeing all of them like in

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Like the guys in the trenches who were just getting

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Speaker 2: Which it was I always remember.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's why I don't even want to get on

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Speaker 5: about it because everyone's just ripping apart in their name

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Speaker 5: is scheduling now, like they just they could schedule the

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Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs, and it wouldn't be it wouldn't be good.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be good enough. No, not for some morons

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Speaker 5: But it's what's funny about Navy is and you can

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Speaker 5: ask any team that's to prepare for, they're the worst

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Speaker 5: to prepare for. It's like gives he Yeah, it just

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Speaker 5: do it. Then you guys gets hurt and they're like,

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Speaker 5: all right, here we go. Like it's just it's miserable

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Speaker 5: offensive to go up against him because you only touch

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Speaker 5: the ball like six times a game. You know, usually

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Speaker 5: they're gonna get those fourth downs or even just the

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Speaker 2: Because they'll go for four downs and they'll get it.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's just it's a whole different like vibeing

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Speaker 5: But I wouldn't again, as an offensive player, I would

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Speaker 5: say it is more so, especially when the hey dude,

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Speaker 5: mah Kyle Echel back in the day, and you got

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Speaker 2: That dude was unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I just I remember guys like Flows l Adams like

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Speaker 4: that was ridiculous going up against him. I remember, uh,

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Speaker 4: big Aaron. You remember Aaron Gibson from Wisconsin. He's like

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Speaker 4: pass with pace, did you. Nah, he's a little before you.

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Speaker 4: I played against him in the league, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: No? I still said, this man what he finished in

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Speaker 2: the Heisman's tackle. Yeah, some people consider him literally like

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Speaker 2: top create a Yeah. I mean it's a period. It's

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Speaker 2: but Archie b strolling too, don't. He's like the mayor.

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Speaker 2: He's the best. Archie Griffin is the mayor. It's wild too.

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Speaker 5: You look at stats on things because like this year's Heisman,

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Speaker 5: quite as much. We talked about Love. Love has ridiculous

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Speaker 5: of the years Archie you wanted and like Jonas, you

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Speaker 2: I think you had like.

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Speaker 5: Five rushing touchdowns, which is kind of wild to think.

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Speaker 5: It's like, how who was scoring all the points?

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Speaker 2: a different that's a different one right there. Man. Do

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Speaker 2: you think we'll ever see a two time Heisman winner? Nope?

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Speaker 2: I thought Bryce Young. I thought Bryce Young was going

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Speaker 2: to be the guy to do it because.

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Speaker 1: They won't allow it. Somebody, Well, you don't think so, No,

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Speaker 1: I just I think voters have an agenda.

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Speaker 2: Right, he probably.

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Speaker 5: I mean Lamar. I would also say Lamar the year

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Speaker 5: after he was better he won it. He was, it

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Speaker 5: was actually better, and then they didn't really give much consideration.

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Speaker 5: But it was mostly because like the team situations. Well yeah,

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Speaker 5: and he was phenomenal in this. In the next year,

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Speaker 5: arch is.

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Speaker 1: Second high ast man. He had four rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Four Okay, I was off crazy? Is that nuts? And

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, how did you win it? Yeah? How

456
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Speaker 2: many yards did he have?

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Speaker 1: Just thirteen fifty seven, So Ye had a little over

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Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards. He had six a little over sixteen

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Speaker 1: hundred yards of the year prior. But that's also like

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Speaker 1: how many games you play ten, eleven, eleven year?

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Speaker 2: What year was that?

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Speaker 1: Seventy four and seventy five.

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Speaker 5: So that's the other thing people forget too, like look

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Speaker 5: at how many games these kids play? You know, now

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Speaker 5: you go through so many, so you look at the stats,

466
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Speaker 5: you're like, well, yeah, they play about you know sometimes

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Speaker 5: two three, they went.

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Speaker 2: Eleven and one eight zero in the conference.

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Speaker 4: You know, he played in a Rose Bowl every single

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Speaker 4: year he was there. Archie, Yes, Yeah, every single year

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Speaker 4: he was there. He played in the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 5: I think though, like obviously the different Bowl conference affiliations

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Speaker 5: like Ohio State played in it like three out of

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Speaker 5: four years, Like we played him in five, I swear

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Speaker 5: to god. They went to Arizona the next year in

476
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Speaker 5: the national championship game, and then like I think maybe

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Speaker 5: the year before.

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Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta go look back there. Maybe it's

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Speaker 2: two years prior they were there.

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Speaker 5: There was a string of years where Ohio State was

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Speaker 5: playing in some sort of national championship in Arizona, Fiesta

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Speaker 5: Bowl in Arizona or like something in that in that

483
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Speaker 2: Wow, they dropped to four about the Sea by season

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Speaker 2: seasons and that was a Woody Hayes coach team. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, the.

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Speaker 10: I think it was like a three three and a

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Speaker 2: It won't happen again.

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Speaker 10: But then it did happen again, and we started to

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Speaker 10: communicate with the ACC texts that I sent, emails that

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Speaker 10: point across that this was raised eyebrows and you got

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Speaker 10: to know it's caused damage here between the university and

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Speaker 10: the ACC. It just kind of puzzled us that a

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Speaker 10: conference that's home to over six hundred of our student

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Speaker 10: athletes walking around this campus today, I guess chose to

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Speaker 10: go down that road.

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Speaker 2: Why would you.

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Speaker 10: Attack an unbelievably important business partner of yours in football

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Speaker 10: and a member of your conference twenty four other sports.

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Speaker 1: So that's a Notre Dame athletic director.

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Speaker 2: Have you talked to him.

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Speaker 5: I haven't talked to Pete. I haven't talked to our

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Speaker 5: athletic director. But I would generally just say this. You know,

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Speaker 5: college football is but ultimately drives the revenue, drives.

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Speaker 2: Ratings, and that's Notre Name's identity.

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Speaker 5: So I personally look at it and say, I get

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Speaker 5: it from both sides of it, Like I understand that

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of other sports student athletes who are

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Speaker 5: maybe looking at it going, well, we're in the ACC,

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Speaker 5: like why why the campaigning like that? But I also

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Speaker 5: look at it and said, you're not for football. And

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Speaker 5: if Jim Phillips, who's the conference commissioner, is okay with

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Speaker 5: them pushing for a team like Miami pushing for their

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Speaker 5: Conference champion Duke, Like, I get it, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't look at social media, and maybe that's

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Speaker 5: just the difference and age and experience and all that

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Speaker 2: It's just not so.

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Speaker 5: When when we really want to boil this down and say, well,

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Speaker 5: there was a campaign to me person, I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 5: like water under the bridge, you know. I think one

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Speaker 5: of the things that that I looked at it was like, okay,

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Speaker 5: this is more of what I would say is kind

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Speaker 5: the norm, like the ACC network continually playing the Notre

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Speaker 5: it was. When you see stuff like that, you're like, okay,

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Speaker 5: that's a little different, Like that's someone who's actually taking

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Speaker 5: cable channel like airtime and they're playing.

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Speaker 2: It over and over and over again, which is out

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Speaker 5: I think the intentions were to make sure they reminded

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Speaker 5: people that mind me beat Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: It's both political ads that you see.

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Speaker 2: Exactly Like that was where you kind of felt like, okay,

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Speaker 2: but us versus them thing, and that's kind of what

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Speaker 2: the idea is really trying on the drive home here, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think the one thing that gets a

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Speaker 5: is like, you have a partial affiliation. So even though

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Speaker 5: it's twenty four of the sports, you're also playing five

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Speaker 5: games a year that are against the ACC, and the

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Speaker 5: ACC schedules that like Notre Dame messona avity control over

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Speaker 5: which five of those are. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 5: don't understand how the scheduling comes about for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: That's part of that. A lot of people, by the way,

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Speaker 2: are like, oh.

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Speaker 5: The ACC saved Notre Dame during COVID, and there's some

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Speaker 5: truth to that as far as what that schedule was

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Speaker 5: going to look like for them because of how various

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Speaker 5: conferences handled COVID. I will remind people too though the

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Speaker 5: one year they are part of a conference, they swept

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Speaker 5: the regular season and they played the conference championship game

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Speaker 5: lost to Clemson. But still like, if people wanted to

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Speaker 5: join a conference, that's fine. I think Notre Dame is

661
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Speaker 5: going to compare favorably versus most they would have in

662
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Speaker 5: the playoff this year versus SEC opponents.

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Speaker 2: But I think the greater thing that I would draw.

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Speaker 5: Or point to that ultimately led to the frustration for

665
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Speaker 5: Notre Dame fans not getting the playoff at least in

666
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: regards to the ACC was the way they went about

667
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: determining who played the conference championship game. That should be

668
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Speaker 5: the same for every powerful conference. The fact that we

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Speaker 5: don't have, I mean, and this is really the greater

670
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Speaker 5: issue in college football, the fact that not everyone plays

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00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 5: nine conference games, which they will starting next year.

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Speaker 2: You get the SEC doing that, obviously, the Big Ten

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Speaker 2: does that, the Big Twelve, et cetera. You you're getting

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Speaker 2: a little bit closer to that.

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Speaker 5: But then it's like, okay, well can we all agree

676
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Speaker 5: not the schedule FCS opponents like, if you look at

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Speaker 5: a lot of these old MISS resumes this year, or

678
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Speaker 5: excuse me, the SEC resumes this year old MISS in particular,

679
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Speaker 5: they've got an SEC opponent on it. If you really

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Speaker 5: break down, they played three teams with winning records, like

681
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Speaker 5: three or four teams something like that. It's like, all right, well,

682
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Speaker 5: how hard was that schedule that no one's talking about

683
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Speaker 5: that just because they have one loss.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that difficult to schedule.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of inequities, unequal schedules that were

686
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Speaker 5: trying to compare to determine who should be playing off

687
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: for this thing. Well, that even extends to the conference

688
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 5: championship game. How do we get those two teams there?

689
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Speaker 5: If they had adopted the AAC tie breaking scenarios, which

690
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Speaker 5: is head to head, then the highest college football playoff ranking,

691
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Speaker 5: you know which two teams are, you would have got

692
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: Miami versus UVA. Miami would have won Miami's in jam

693
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Speaker 5: U's out bid her names in And that's probably how

694
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Speaker 5: it should have worked. Like, as much as we wanted

695
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Speaker 5: to make this a whole Notre Dame Miami thing and

696
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Speaker 5: everything else, Miami should have won the ACC. They're the

697
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Speaker 5: best team in the conference, and instead you have Duke

698
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Speaker 5: playing off fors Uva as a five lost conference champ

699
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Speaker 5: because of their odd tie breaking it was what record

700
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Speaker 5: versus common opponents or winning percentagers common opponents, some odd

701
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Speaker 5: way in which they went to a third tiebreaker. But

702
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Speaker 5: that's not an automatic qualifier, right, Well, no, no, it

703
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Speaker 5: would be. It would be an olive would be an

704
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Speaker 5: automatic qualifier. It doesn't mean you get a so so

705
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Speaker 5: two years ago it meant you would have you the

706
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Speaker 5: top four highest conference champion bicks, we get buys.

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Speaker 2: Now they just said it's automat qualifiers. So so Duke,

708
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Speaker 2: it's in. They're not in the playoff. No, that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So, uh because they but no, no, no, because they

711
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Speaker 5: weren't one of the five highest rank conference champions.

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Speaker 2: They're a five lost team. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But I think what I think some people have been

714
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Speaker 4: getting turned around and mixed up on what automatic qualifying represents, Like,

715
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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that if you win your conference in a

716
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Speaker 4: power in one of the power in any of the

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Speaker 4: Power four conferences, that's your automatic quality.

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Speaker 2: That's not it.

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Speaker 5: Well again, it's it's that's not it because of the

720
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Speaker 5: way these different conferences construct their tie breaking scenarios. Yeah,

721
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 5: it should all be the same, Like are we all

722
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: angling towards the same thing? Like we're trying to get

723
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Speaker 5: all the best teams playing for it. So if you

724
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Speaker 5: have different conference tie breaking scenarios, you're gonna come up

725
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 5: with a different result. The ACC came up with this result,

726
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: or Duke's playing UVA, and if Duke wins the disaster

727
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: scenario for the a SEC. They have to sit there

728
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 5: and look at their conference champ with five losses. That's

729
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 5: not gonna get in the playoff. I had no shot

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Speaker 5: getting the playoff even though they I think they ESPN

731
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Speaker 5: had someone there. Yet you standing on campus to the

732
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Speaker 5: microphone like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jonas up here, we think the Duke Blue Devils

734
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: a shot to get it there. That's like, no, they

735
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: have no shot. But you get an ACC team into

736
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff though you do, but not recognized

737
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: as their conference champ. Right, that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 5: They have to be lucky enough that the committee finally

739
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 5: moved them ahead of Notre Dame because they had to head.

740
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Speaker 2: Like Ohio State wasn't in the Big Ten championship game

741
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: last year, and they and think about it, and I

742
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: said that I made this point before. You have a

743
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Speaker 2: national title holder that didn't even win their conference. There's

744
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: a there's a conference. Yeah, there's a conference.

745
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 5: All four teams last year in semi finals, none of them,

746
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 5: none of them none the conference weird.

747
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: So so why I'm find by that? But watch it

748
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: to me, watch did the conference championship matter? Like that

749
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: brings up another question wat should it like like I

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Speaker 2: get it, if I'm if I'm you know, I mean,

751
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to talk for Peter. I'm not trying

752
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Speaker 2: to talk to anything else.

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Speaker 5: I would I would step back from all of this

754
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: and say, we're not going to point out like how

755
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 5: we feel like we were in you know it was

756
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 5: injust with what happened. Let's talk about this whole process

757
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: and let's better understand how we get to the best

758
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 5: twelve teams playing for it because we don't all have

759
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: the same criteria, we don't all have the same stuff.

760
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Speaker 5: But everyone who wants to hold that over notre names

761
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 5: head would join a conference, join a conference. You don't

762
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 5: need to join a conference in order to win the

763
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 5: national championship, because why it seems in the conferences don't

764
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: win their conference and go play for a national championship.

765
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Speaker 2: They played for one last year. Yeah, probably last your point,

766
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: Ohio State won it last.

767
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 5: Year and they didn't play in their conference champions so

768
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: like then, it kind of devalues it all together. So

769
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Speaker 5: now it makes it like, well, why don't we figure

770
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Speaker 5: out a way of structuring this where those games are

771
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Speaker 5: like playing games you know during that weekend? Why are

772
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Speaker 5: we doing Confience Championship weekend? Why can't we do like

773
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 5: some sort of hey the top. You know, however, many teams,

774
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: the rankings are all squaring off. You know what I'm saying,

775
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 5: Like you could start that round there as opposed to

776
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Speaker 5: saying we got to play Confence Championships, then we got

777
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Speaker 5: to go to the first round. Then we gotta go

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Speaker 5: to the quarterfinal like you could. You could expand this

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Speaker 5: thing to sixteen and we could start this thing a

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Speaker 5: little sooner, which I think a lot of people would

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Speaker 2: There's too many sensitivities on trying to get X amount

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Speaker 2: of teams in. That's what I think. Yeah, well, I

784
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Speaker 3: heard about Quentin Jammer, you know, the corner for the Chargers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so this is a good one. So apparently he didn't

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Speaker 3: log an inner twenty eleven year, which he says, well,

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Speaker 3: himself on Twitter that year. That season he played completely well,

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Speaker 3: smashed drunk in at least eight games.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even lying.

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Speaker 3: He even said it, even mentioned he had two shows.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand how guys would smell that, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean I know how I guys

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Speaker 5: who would smoke, right.

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Speaker 2: But they also did that like every day. So it

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Speaker 2: I knew a guy's taking a shot, yeah before Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Marshaan's like take a shot, but like drink. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you'd be cramping up and stuff like.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Not only does it not make any sense, but then

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Speaker 2: now trying to find the sense might even be more.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I don't concerning that's that's a concerning admission of

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Speaker 4: you know, of information there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not saying he's lying. I'm just saying

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Speaker 5: I feel like that'd be really hard to get away with.

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Speaker 5: Somebody would see it.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I'll say this much. I know, I

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Speaker 5: know one quarterback used to drink during training camp. So

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Speaker 5: some buddies who had played with them, and you know

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Speaker 5: he would he would do that from time to time.

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Speaker 2: But like that's the extent of what I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: all your materials gone all your materials gone.

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Speaker 4: but you know, like you know, like you know, having

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