WEBVTT - Super Bowl LIX Preview with Greg Olsen & Fred Warner 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:08.640 Daily where we have finally made it to New Orleans. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:16.360 I'm Greg Rosenthal here on the beautiful iHeart Studio set 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:22.720 at the Convention Center in downtown New Orleans, obviously with 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.040 NFL Media. The collaboration of a lifetime, and I've got 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.200 the collab I've always wanted surrounding me right now. On 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.800 one side it's Jordan rod Rieg of The Athletic. On 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.160 the other it's Nick Schuok coming in at two hundred 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:38.519 and no. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.080 Thank you for not doing my way Christian and media. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:43.920 What's up? 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:44.960 We're here, we're here. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.440 Yes, I'm glad you guys landed. I've been here since Sunday. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.640 I'm glad you made it safely. I hope you're adjusting 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:50.320 to Central time. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.279 Yeah, you know what. I'm a little nervous about our 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.279 seating placement right now. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:53.560 Nick. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.120 For the listeners, we are in the middle of the 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.560 Greg Rosenthal hand flying about zone. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:00:59.640 Oh you're real close. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.920 Almost got smacked twice three times, and I might have 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:03.560 to smack you back. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:08.560 Greg, I don't tent me with a good time. We 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:13.160 are really excited about this show. It's a previous show, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:18.040 but it's it's not just any previous show. And it's 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.959 really cool. By the way, just like, yeah, I love 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.360 having you next to me, Jordan. We we've done that 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.720 a week. Heck, we we flew down here. We got 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.440 in to New Orleans around midnight, got to the hotel 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.560 like it was a whole thing. We got we got 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.600 celebs on the on the plane, we got Roma Duneesay 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:42.600 picking up bags. But we never have our our buddy shook. Yeah, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.360 and it's just like it's a long time. It's good. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.120 I know, it's fantastic. The last time we did a 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.840 show in studio is great. Now I'm happy to be 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.440 here with you. I've been looking forward to this for weeks. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.960 Okay, So, like I said, it's not a normal preview show. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.120 We're gonna have a couple of guests to help us 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.120 along the way. But for the you of the Super Bowl, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:06.360 we are going only to prime ball Knower. So we 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.519 are going to throw it to an interview right now 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:15.400 with Fred Warner, one of the smartest players in the 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.799 entire NFL, four time All Pro who has played these 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.919 two teams, the Eagles and the Chiefs, at the highest 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.240 of levels, the NFC Championship, the Super Bowl, of course, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.200 last year against the Chiefs. After that, we'll come back 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.680 and we're gonna give our preview and then we'll finish 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.960 out the show with my favorite color analyst in the 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:41.560 entire game, Greg Olsen. Hell yeah, So we're gonna be 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:46.000 the meat in some great analysts sandwich. But we are 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.320 starting the show. You know, Nick, you're not part of 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.640 this interview, So we'll say goodbye to you for just 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.120 a second, and we'll say hello to Fred Warner and 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.000 we'll be back in just a little bit. All right, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.040 we are here with one of our favorite I'm just 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.079 gonna say it players in the entire NFL. We went 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.239 there Fred, four time All Pro linebacker Fred Warner, who's 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.520 here on behalf of experience which can help you improve 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:18.920 your financial help and keep money in your pockets. And 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.240 yet it's I think it's because like you can see 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.240 the ball knowing right, Jordan, when you're watching Fred. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.640 We have to tell you NFL daily we go into 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.600 the weeds on x's and o's all the time, and 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.000 we cannot wait to talk to you because you are 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.240 to us the elite ball knower in the NFL. So 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.280 we're gonna we're gonna do something a little bit different 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.280 with you today, and I know you're ready because you're 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:44.560 ready for corner. Yes, so we want to break down 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.160 this game with you. We're trusting you with. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:46.840 Our our. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.240 Kicking a couple of things some football. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.320 Yeah so yeah, so we've so we've seen. Yeah, so 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.080 we've seen. So we're just excited to dig into this matchup. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.920 You know, it's it seems like faded at this point 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.280 in my opinion. These are two of the best teams 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.280 in the NFL right now this year clashing against each other. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.160 And I guess when you look at one key matchup 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.680 that you cannot wait to just diagnose breakdown, probably jump 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.120 out of your seat because I know you want to 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.320 be out there doing it yourself. Like, what is something 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.120 that jumps off the page to you about these seams? 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.760 Yeah, I think the matchup I'm looking at obviously Saekwon 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.479 Barkley against the Kansas City defense. I can't even just 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.800 say one player because it's going to take the entire defense. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.840 The Kansas City's defense, I think has been the thing 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.680 that people haven't talked about enough. Of Course, it's easy 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.400 to talk about Andy Reid, It's easy to talk about 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.520 Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce because they're all Hall of Fame 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.560 you know people, right, Like, they all have done an 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.919 amazing job winning championships for their team. But the defense 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.040 I think has done a tremendous job. It's under Spagnola 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.760 and what he's been able to do with these guys 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.719 interchange Like there's guys who've been interchangeable throughout their system 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.560 for years now. I think they saw the piece that's 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.360 been remaining the same as Chris Jones, you know, Perennial Allpro, 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.120 who's a amazing But you know, I'm interested to see 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.359 how do they stop Saquon because everybody's been wanting to 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.680 do that all season long, but everybody says it every week, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.160 nobody's done it, you know, So. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.039 I want to see what that looks like. 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.320 And you and your role, you have to think about 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.720 that all the time, and especially because if he does 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.239 get past Chris Jones hard to do. But if he does, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.440 Saquon Barkley is one of the hardest players to stop 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.120 in the second and third level of the defense in 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.760 the entire NFL and certainly has looked every bit of 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.880 that this year. So as I'm middle linebacker, how do 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.640 you stop him? Once he gets to the second level. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.919 What's your communication to the rest of sort of the 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.440 players orbiting around you in getting to him and bringing 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:34.920 him down. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.240 Well, the beautiful thing about it is you're not out 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.800 there alone, all right. People try to make it about 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:41.560 one on one matchups in football, which you know a 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.120 lot of the time it is about winning your one 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.039 on one. But in this game, it's going to be 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.640 about all eleven swarming to the football like more than ever. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.520 You cannot allow him to have that space. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.839 If he does have space, then he's able to create, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.200 you know, So you got to make sure that you're 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.400 liminitating that space bay getting all guys. I need that 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.200 outside corner out there, who's covering aj Brown as as 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.880 soon as you see as you need to be sprinting 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.600 because we need everybody at the ball. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:08.080 You've obviously been in this position. Let's say you're lining 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.040 up against the Eagles. We talked a little bit about Saquon, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:16.080 but before the snap, they present a lot to you. Obviously, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.480 you know they can do the RPOs, then they can 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.080 play faster if they want. Jalen Hurts is obviously a 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.960 good kind of vertical runner. What are some of your 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.039 keys as they're setting up to snap the ball. When 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.360 you're playing against the Eagles, that are in your mind. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.479 Yeah, I mean I played the Eagles a couple of times, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.200 especially a couple of years back we played them in 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.800 the NFC Championship and then the year after playing them 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.320 in the regular season. And the thing for me as 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.960 a middle linebacker, like my coach always tells me, just 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.240 take a step back. Like everybody wants to crowd the 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.120 line of scrimmage because you want to. You're so eager 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.200 to stop the run. But if you're getting too tight 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.640 to the line of scrimmage, you're not able to see 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.839 the full picture. You get down there and you start 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.080 trying to just expose the excuse me, stop the run. 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:56.800 Guess what. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.480 A J. Brown is running a slant right behind your 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.080 head and they're doing the RPO. They're dunge in to 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:01.839 him and he's running for a seventy yard touchdown on 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.600 a slint. It's like I thought we were we were 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.520 just being told to stop squon. It's like, no, they 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.279 have weapons all of Devonte Smith, A J. Brown, Dallas Goddard. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.000 So at the end of the day, you got to 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.160 take a step back, give yourself more time to read 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.280 the play. Who has the ball? Is it Jalen or 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.040 is it Saquon. That's another level of it where you 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.840 got to read the zone read. If you're a defensive 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.000 end and they and you got his own read. Are 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.400 you being told to take the dive, Saquon? Are you 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.680 being told to take the quarterback with with Jalen? All 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.520 these little things are so monotonous, but there every detail matters, and. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:33.800 Just keep the ball. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.320 If I'm a coordinator, I'm like, hey, tackle the dive, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.880 tackle Saquon, Make Jalen take the ball every single time. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.160 And I love how you describe that, like, of course 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.120 I did, because you're Fred Warner. But the way that 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.720 you have to give a play patience on your side. 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.240 You hear it all the time when people talk about 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.440 running backs. Be patient, let the play unfold. On your 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.040 side of things, you have to do the same thing 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.720 and trust what you see and trust what you know. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.040 And so I wonder when you're flipping it around and 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.880 you're looking at the chiefs and they're giving you misdirection 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.680 of motion and all kinds of wrinkles and little cheap 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.720 motions to the outside that I know you guys see 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.560 a lot in practice, yeah, and little orbits and things 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.679 where you're keeping track of all of these different orchestrations 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.000 pre snap. How do you give those plays patients? How 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.360 do you trust what you see there? What do you 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:17.200 look at first? 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.440 It's so tough. I mean, I hate to say it. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.440 I have yet to defeat them, you know, and solve 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.600 that puzzle, right, I mean, I tried my best, and 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.520 we've had some game plans where they've been more effective 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:28.000 than others. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.040 The thing about Kansas City offense is they're unorthodox. You know. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.679 You prepare every week where. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.079 It's like, all right, this team runs this system, they 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:37.720 have these players, they are going to do exactly that, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.760 and that's exactly what we need to stop. And then 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.280 you go against Kansas City, it's like, wait, they run 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:42.960 what they do? 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.240 What he runs? 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:44.360 It? 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:44.720 Like how? 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:45.880 And it's like and then you get in the game 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.120 and it's like you might have been prepared for some 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:48.880 all week, and it's like it's so much different when 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.319 you're in the moment you're trying to play against the 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.920 players like at Travis Kelcey, lack of Patrick Mahomes with 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.840 the savvy and the connection that they have right, So 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.160 there's so many levels to it, and at the end 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.120 of the day, everybody got to do their one eleven 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.480 and you know, and hope for the past. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.640 We like to talk a lot on this show about 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.079 how Andy Reid and the Chiefs, particularly with his screen game, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.120 which it's a legendary playbook. It's like six hundred pages long. 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.800 It just screens right. Yes, I know Kyle's is similar 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.960 in terms of the amount of plays, but Andy Reid, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.840 I mean, my goodness, and so the the the ways 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.440 he sets things up, the ways he layers things in 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.240 the first quarter and then builds off of it in 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.320 a totally different way based on your first reaction in 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.720 the third quarter? What have you seen from that offense? 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.240 And I guess what is it? Even as elite as 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.800 you are all of these years at an all pro level, 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.120 what does it still teach you after all this time? 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.080 It humbles you every time because it truly is a 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.920 game of chess, you know, And that's exactly what Andy's doing. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.840 That's what all the great play play callers and offense 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.040 coordinators do in this league. You know, they are setting 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.000 you up for the long game. Because people talk about 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.760 coming out in the game and starting fast, which, of 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.200 course you'd love to start fast. Everybody wants to start 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.640 fast because that helps you out a ton in the game. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.839 But now the thing that I'm learning more and more 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.520 throughout my career is it matters more how you finish. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.600 You've got to finish even faster than how you start, 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.040 and if you're implementing certain things within the beginning of 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.320 the game to then set yourself up for success later 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.640 in the game where it's like, oh, yeah, I remember 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.360 he did kind of come down on the run early 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:19.760 in the game, so now we can hit him on 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.920 the RPR play action later on the game. Like those 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.440 little things do matter in the heat of battle. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.080 Yeah, because look, last last year's game couldn't have been 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:31.480 more evenly played. Obviously, it was overtime, it's a team game. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.640 A lot went into what happened. But I watched that 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.720 game and I talked about it afterwards, and I remember 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.240 saying what I thought was the forty nine ers defense. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.480 They did come out fast. They they did enough to 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.280 me to win. They they held mahomes down for a 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.320 long time. So what was it in that game where 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.760 you're holding them to single digits after a lot of 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.880 possessions in that game that you thought you guys were 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.360 doing well in that game that slowed them down. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.000 Well, I mean if you look back a year ago 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.560 before that game, in the entire playoffs or not entire 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.480 we had the one season we had to buy, but 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.760 playing against Green Bay, playing against Detroit, we could not 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.800 stop the run to save our lives on defense, like 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:15.600 we were getting just thrown like toss to the Wolves 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.959 before that Kansas City game, saying like, oh my gosh, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.280 this Niner defense is nothing like it's been in the past, 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.720 don't We don't see these guys being able to stop 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:23.880 anything Kansas City's. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:24.000 Got to do. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.680 So of course we carried all that with us and 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.360 had a huge ship on our shoulder going to the 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.640 end of that game. So you saw the emotion right away, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.920 like of now we're coming with a with some heat, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.400 you know what I'm saying, Like we know for a 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.160 fact that we're the best defense in the league. We're 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.560 gonna show it today on the day that we need 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.760 to show it the most. And but again talking about 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.320 start versus the finish, we started fast, but what was 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.040 more important to finish And we lost dre Green Lawn 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.640 in that game, which was a huge loss for us. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.200 That was a huge emotional dump for myself, you know, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.640 like I'm shedding tears on the sideline in that halftime 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.520 and when you need all the juice that you can 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.120 get towards the end of that game and overtime, like 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.319 you need all of that, right, And so those little 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.480 things are so crucial in a. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.040 Game like that. 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.080 And we can talk scheme all day long, but it's 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.480 the emotion of it, right, And a lot of these teams, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.600 I mean the Chiefs, I always compare them to long 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.280 haul truckers. They just know how to get there and 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.720 they know how to get to that extra gear in 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.360 the dark, down that highway and just go right. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:23.960 Yeah. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.640 But this Eagles team, they've rebuilt very quickly, and there's 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.120 a lot of youth, there's a lot of guys who've 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.000 been there for getting there for the first time, a 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.600 lot of emotion probably happening. Team that's kind of had 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:37.840 an emotional season overall. There's been every week it's something man, right, Like, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.600 I hope you don't have a copy of that book 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.920 at this point, But how would you as a captain, 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.200 as a leader, like, how would you talk to these 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.000 young players? What would you tell them to be ready 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:48.800 for in a game like that. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.920 Yeah, I mean it's so cliche to say it's a 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.240 whole it's just another game, but you truly have to 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.560 just treat it like it is another game, because if 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.880 you if you go into it thinking, Okay, it's a 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.000 super Bowl, this is my moment, I'm gonna go out here, 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.120 I'm gonna just throw everything that my coach has been 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.880 telling me out the door and just go rogue. I 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.240 promise you, it is not gonna go well, It's gonna 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:09.640 be a long day for you and you're probably not 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.120 gonna end up with the trophy. So I know, for 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.040 me my first super Bowl in my second season, I 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.280 had guys like a Richard Sherman who had been there 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.320 and done that be able to tell me like, hey, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.280 young Buck, like this is just another game. Like just 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.160 do what you've been doing all season, like you've been 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.200 playing at a great let at a high level. Just 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.839 do that again this game and we'll get to where 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.959 we need to go. Now, we ultimately didn't get to 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.600 where we needed to go. But you know, so many 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.240 things have to happen in your favor in order to 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.000 win these games. And you know, there is something to 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.160 be said about having been there and winning the game 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.440 and knowing what that recipe looks like for Kansas City. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.600 But on the opposite side, Philly is loaded, like you 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.559 cannot find a weakness in the roster, whether it be 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.360 O line, D line, skilled players, like, everybody's so great, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.320 So it's gonna be an even matchup. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:56.360 I can't wait to watch. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.440 As a as a forty nine er. I mean, who's 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.040 played these teams in big spots like do you have 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.000 any uh in your in your real gut, like the 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.719 real threat owner that you want? 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.400 No, I hope no. I don't want both teams to lose. Yeah, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.600 I know that's unfortunately not possible. I wish it was, 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.840 but yeah I did. I dislike both teams a lot. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.959 So there's there's no result where there's no result where 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.520 I'm happy people. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.040 People are sick of y'all too. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:23.320 This is Yeah. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.520 In the last six years, four of the Super Bowls 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.520 have been forty nine Ers Chiefs or Eagles Chiefs. That obviously, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.480 you guys made it back to the NFC Championship game 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.720 so many times. We're looking forward to watching you next year. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.200 But before you go, tell us a little bit about 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:38.920 experience that you're working with here. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.640 Yeah, No, experience is amazing. They're all about saving time 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.240 and money, which is what we're all trying to do. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:43.600 Right. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.600 You talk about subscriptions for example, Uh, let's say you 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.600 have you've got a brand new peloton and you get 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:50.400 on that peloton and. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.560 You know, say, hey, listen, new year's resolution. Right, it's 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:54.960 a new year. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.680 You get on the peloton and you and you you 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.480 have to get the membership, right, it's not just buying 0:14:58.480 --> 0:14:58.720 the bike. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.720 You got to get the membership. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.800 But then a couple of weeks later you're like, uh, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.520 you know, it just wasn't for me, so he put 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:04.040 the bike away. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.280 But then you forget about the membership. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:05.480 Right. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:06.520 We all fall. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.200 Victim to getting these little subscriptions. They might be like 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.400 the little three ninety nine ers, right, that just just 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.680 kind of go under the radar and they stack up 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.840 over time. Experience does a great job of just you 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.200 download the app. They take care of those subscriptions that 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.760 you don't need or don't want and just eliminate them. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.320 So then you're saving your time, saving your money, and 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:25.120 live a grade life. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.600 He's taking a step back. He sees the whole field. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.240 That's right, and on the field, Bred Warner, Yeah, four 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.960 time all pro. Appreciate you joining our previs show. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.000 Appreciate you guys. Thank you. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:43.600 That was s Fred Warner. Of course, handsome man, very gregarious. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.800 He is such a great break he just would He 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.520 was breaking down so many things. I loved hearing about 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.520 the detail, the patience that he also has to show, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.440 and even defending you think defending a player like Saquon 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.040 Barkley you just have to you know, ram face through wall, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.600 right if you're looking from the outside. But him explaining 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.360 the interest sees and the nuances, that's what we're all 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.720 about here on NFL Daily. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.120 Yeah, it is really cool to sit next to someone 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.240 and kind of get the vibe of like, okay that 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.320 even in that short of a period, you can kind 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.040 of see how he's the type of guy. If he 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.680 shows up to a combine interview, like all the coaches 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.200 are gonna be like, oh, I want him on my team, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.960 Like that's a leader. That's a real dude. But we're 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.240 the leaders too. I don't want to sell us short. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.840 We're gonna give our bulk of the preview right now, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.520 because look, I know it's it's Super Bowl week. We've 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.880 been talking a lot about the rams and different news 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.560 stories of what's happening, and we're gonna have a lot 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.960 of great interviews the rest of the week. At this point, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:43.600 I think we can just start teasing him. I was 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.560 a little worried, but it's kind of crazy. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.040 I know you don't want to jinx him. I get it, Like, if. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.040 They don't show up, that's on them. We have Jayden 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.920 Daniels coming up this week. We have Jordan Love coming 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.320 up this week. We got Puka Nakua, Kobe Turner, Ashton Genty, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.680 John Than Taylor, Jimir Gibbs, Montgomery. They're all coming up 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.119 later this week and we knew that, and there'll probably 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.960 be some super Bowl talk there with them, but a 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:10.480 lot of that will be about their old team. So 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.359 this is really where we're gonna get into our preview 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.159 of the game. And we have six categories, and we 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.960 all like to honk. Can we possibly get through six 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.359 categories in the time we have allotted? That is the 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.760 challenge here. And I'm gonna start with you, Shook and 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.760 just ask a really basic question, just like, what are 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:33.959 you most excited? 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:34.960 Little table setter. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.560 I'm just most excited for what probably everybody is who 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.480 was here two years ago, the rematch. It is Eagles Chiefs. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.520 It was one of the most thrilling super Bowls that 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.680 we ever saw. In fact, in the third quarter of 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.320 that game, I was sitting there and I had a 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.400 moment where I just thought, I'm at the best super 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.760 Bowl in history. It didn't end that way, but it 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.040 was pretty close. Now we get these two teams again 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.240 two years later. Yes, the roster is a little bit different. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.399 We have a combined total of twenty seven stars between 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.000 these two teams, returning a lot of familiar faces, some 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.000 bad blood from that last matchup. 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.640 I like it and it's greatness. It's truly great players, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.720 and that game builds the story. And I like the 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.800 point that you made because I think sometimes games that 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.800 don't have the hot ending make you forget, like, oh, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.360 the first fifty seven minutes of the game were absolutely electric. 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:28.280 It's why I always stand for Saints Colts as maybe 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.560 my favorite and maybe the best super Bowl of all time, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.520 even though the big moment happened with four minutes left 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.840 in the game, But because those two teams were so excellent, 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.200 because of the first fifty five minutes and everything that 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:38.800 went into it, and that's what happened in that first 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.639 Eagles Chiefs game. I'm totally with you, what are you 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:42.480 most excited about? 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.360 Kind of on along your point, Greg is like, these 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.440 are the two best teams in the NFL this year 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.000 and it almost never works out this way where we're 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.040 seeing them in the actual super Bowl, and again with 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.960 so much tension and heat behind this history that these 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.280 two now have, and these are just the teams of 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.200 who has the most dudes super Bowl? This is this 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.600 is the dude Bowl. Really, dude, this is the Dude Bowl, Like, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.399 and I think the Eagles have the edge here. Frankly, 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.800 we'll get we'll get into it. But it's like, at 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.639 every position, a dude, right, I mean, someone who you 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.719 would love if you're a fan of any team, at 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:19.840 almost every position, you would love to have that player 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.119 on your team. And I love that we're going to 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.800 see these teams collide in this way, and I love 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.520 that they have these unique storylines that are very unique 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:30.439 to them, the Chiefs being this dynastic super force that 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.240 now people are starting to turn on a little bit 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:38.120 as that super villain. And then and then the Eagles, 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.359 who I personally love because they are so gd messy. 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.239 I love how messy they've been. They've just lived with 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.040 their hearts on their sleeves all season and they've solved 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.520 their own problems that they have also created. And I 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.880 just I love watching these two teams kind of reach 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.040 their peak powers at the right time and collide on seite. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.639 I have to ask, are you into trash TV? Do 0:19:58.720 --> 0:19:59.520 you watch reality? 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.320 I'm not, But that's why I think I get a 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.920 fix out of this because I don't watch reality TV 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.760 other than Quarterback Island, plug but which you need to 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.439 be on. By the way, it would be great Quarterback Island. 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.080 But I just I love it because they really they 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.639 do not care. They're showing you exactly. The Eagles will 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.359 show you exactly what their problems are, a lot of 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:21.359 them of their own creation. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.160 Nick can be our bouncer, by the way, on Quarterback Island. 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.919 True, I will throw them out metaphorically speaking metaphor. 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.040 How messy will it be if Nick Sirianni actually wins 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.080 the Super Bowl? You thought he was bad before. That 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.639 guy is not going to shut up. You know how 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.879 the Rams party so much after that Super Bowl? What 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.159 is a Nick Sirianni party, and then I need. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:39.600 To see I need to see that dude on top 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:40.080 of a bus. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.280 I don't want to think about it, but Nick Sirianni 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:46.480 losing the second not a second super Bowl in a row, 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.440 but in three years here. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.760 Uh, it's like the you know, the Jane Lynch, the 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.560 Jane Lynch meme. I'm going to create a situation so toxic, 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.800 that's really what it is. It's like, it's seriously like 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.680 I can't wait. And Andy Reid on the other hand, 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.760 so calm, so stoic. But it works for both of 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.439 these behemoths that we're about to see it. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.320 It's kind of funny though, to think of the Chiefs 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.160 says like, oh, they're the less talented team, Like they're 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:18.200 it's they have a first ballot Hall of Fame tight end, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.600 maybe the greatest tight end ever still take Gronk, but 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.119 there's plenty of arguments to be made there. They have 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.240 the greatest quarterback of all time. They've got a first 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.520 team All Pro cornerback. They've got one of the greatest 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:31.359 defensive tackles of all time. If, like George call Office 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.400 gets the free agency, you'd probably make about twenty five 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:34.840 to thirty million dollars, You're. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.160 Like, and yet the Eagles are deeper, Sure they are. 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.800 They are more wild, but it's wid The Chiefs areted 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:44.919 extremely constant. Thing I'm most excited about just basic, you know, 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.480 as a true ball nowhere I got really down and dirty. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.840 It's just it's just the matchup in the trenches. I 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.960 think it's because in the playoffs I have more time 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.000 to watch the All twenty two when during the season 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.560 I'm trying to watch every game that I can and 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.520 like power through those can ends most of the time. 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.600 And seeing these two four man pass rushers in past 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:10.639 rushes and thinking about that matchup and how man how 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.080 much Nolan Smith has improved in Milton Williams and Jalen 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:18.160 Carter next to them, how much they've improved as well, 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:21.480 Josh Sweat who's just as consistent as it gets, and 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:23.960 Jylex Hunt even is adding a little pop and great 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:26.760 Brandon Graham, who finished it out the last time, is 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.639 probably in that game. And so that could be a 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.080 great matchup against the Chiefs offensive line, which played really 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:35.760 well in the AFC Championship. And then on the flip side, 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.040 I do think people are sleeping a little bit on 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.240 the four man rush that the Chiefs have Now they 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.479 and this is a theme I have throughout this preview. 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:44.720 They are not the same team as they were the 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.119 first eleven twelve weeks of the season. First of all, 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.840 Carl Loftis says that there is such a thing as playoff. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:57.560 Carl Loftis, Mike like Mike Dana wasn't always the most consistent, 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.560 maybe isn't there like, but has played really well in playoffs. 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:02.840 Like that is a good for me. In pastors Omana 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:06.280 who wasn't there all season and adds a lot to 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.760 that group. And then Chris Jones is like beating really 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.560 good tackles on the edge and thinking about that matchup 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.160 against the best offensive line in the league. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.760 So just yeah, I love it. I do believe you 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.680 had a camp yesterday in the wee hours of whatever 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.800 time it was. We finally got got to New Orleans. 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.119 You're the Jalen Carter of NFL daily. I got to 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.120 be the Milton, the Milton Williams. Nice. 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:32.400 That was nice. 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.880 I thought that was more name recognition than Milton. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:36.040 He's played well. 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:37.720 I love I love history. 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.040 We're at the portion of NFL daily in our relationship, 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:45.320 where now she's just lying. She was the Jalen Carter 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.359 for the bit. She was the Jalen Carter and she 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.639 had you as the Milton Bruins. 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.720 All right, no, no, no, no. 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.119 Don't do that, ruined, don't don't do that. 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:55.400 Don't divide us here. 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.440 I will tell you Carlton, but seven seventeen pressures, three 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:02.760 sacks and the postseason alone. I mean, it's funny. I 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.920 mentioned him on the show, you know, a couple of 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:08.119 weeks ago, and like I got like Twitter mentions or 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.880 Blue Sky mentions about thanks for mentioning carl Loftus because 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.399 he's sort of like a cult favorite in that in 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:15.920 that fan base, and you can see why it really 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.359 turns it on the postseason. I'm excited to see this. 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.600 I think this is best on best in so many ways, 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.680 and the way that those four man rushes, like you said, 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:29.000 can just really execute. Both of these defensive coordinators can 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:30.200 do dastardly things. 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.480 Okay, let's go to the next question. Which coordinator. Now 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.360 you wrote it up. We have a nice little document 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.719 we all we all shared, we collaborated, we came up 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.440 with topics, and Jordan's was which coordinator will be the 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.199 biggest factory? And I'm like, where's the juice when you 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:49.679 mentioned that initially You're like, which coordinator is gonna, like 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.720 gonna be the bigger creep? What was it? Who's going 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:52.640 to be a bad guy? 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.440 I forget Oh, I said, which coordinator is going to 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.000 be the biggest bastard on Sunday? 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:58.800 Yeah, like sell it. 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.720 That's because these guys are gonna be so mean to 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.880 each other. And I love it. It's gonna be awesome, 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.679 And I just I love how this vic Fangio defense 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:12.280 has accelerated what normally would take a couple of years. Traditionally, 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.040 his system has taken a little bit of time to 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.119 really not just be implemented, but like to have the 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.960 right players and then to have everybody buy in. It's 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.879 a lot of tendency studying, it's a lot of you know, 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.879 pattern matching. It's a lot of these things that are complicated, 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.560 and it also is predicated on having good players who 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.320 can rush for upfront and then mixing different things that 0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:33.800 he likes to do out of those zone coverages and 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.240 get a little sticky in those zone coverages on the 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.280 back end, and having really good inside linebackers helps with 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.600 this as well. Having Cooper dejen you can stay in 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.800 your preferred nickel package the entire game. And I just 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:48.600 think that not only is this the one of the 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.119 best defenses we've seen all year and really manifested that 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.439 way over time. It drew some concern early in the season, 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:57.119 and I remember saying on NFL Daily that's just a 0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.440 big Fangio defense. You're going to wonder what they're doing 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.800 early on, and once it clicks, you can really really 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.679 see the vision. And I think that where one of 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.200 the things I'm most excited about to the first question 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:14.520 is how well the Chief's offense and Andy Reid. I'm 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.240 going to count him in with the coordinators. He's not 0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.240 a coordinator obviously, but he's going to be calling the 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:19.000 game against. 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.760 Vic Fanas Well. 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.840 Matt Maggie and Vic Fangio have their own history, which 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.200 is fascinating. They work together in Chicago. They went against 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.399 each other all the time, and Matt Naggey knows what 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.000 Vic Fangio is capable of. But this Andy Reid offense 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.240 and the way that the Chiefs have been so comfortable 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.639 just picking away at different parts of the field, picking 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.040 at the seams a little bit, getting the screen game 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.240 going and really like biding their time and setting up 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.560 the longer downfield passing game that we've seen in recent weeks. 0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.960 It's a perfect way to play this Vic Fangio defense. 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:53.600 It's going to be fascinating that juxtaposition between what Vic 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.360 is going to do and what he's going to try 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.200 to deploy with all of these talented players who've really emerged, 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:04.320 and then what Matt nag But we have to talk 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:05.040 about spags. 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.159 But I want to know what is your answer you 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:08.879 asked the question. 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.760 I mean, I am like the biggest Vic Fangio fangirls felt. 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.720 Okay, it's a really good point on the screens too. 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.080 If it's hard to find a bad number for the 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.560 Eagles defense in general, I think at this point we 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.479 can safely at least I feel comfortable. I don't want 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:25.960 to speak for you guys, but they are the best 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:30.800 defense in the league. Yeah they are seven, Yeah, the 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.960 most talented, the results, all of it. But the one 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.879 weakness is that they can kind of find in the 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.280 numbers the next thing except they're not a good screen defense, 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.920 and that really plays exactly Chiefs. What is your answer 0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.000 in terms of who's a bastard. 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.440 Well, we say that lovingly. Also, I want to point them, Yeah, 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:48.240 it's the thing. 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.280 You can say it lovingly, but it could also be 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.360 interpreted negatively depending on the outcome. And this is where 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.520 I get nervous with Kellen Moore. You've got a lot 0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:57.520 of head coaching heat. 0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:57.879 With the Saints. 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.439 We're in New Orleans and everything else, right, but if 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.359 there's one weakness in this matchup, it's him. I don't 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.399 trust him as much as I trust all the other 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:06.280 coordinators involved. 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:07.960 I think that's fair. 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:13.000 Yes, even Naggie. And because Naggie is he's insulated by Reid. 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.160 Yes, also results has experience. 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.920 He rose to head coach because of what he'd done before. 0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.399 Right more, I don't care about whether he's not been 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:24.120 a head coach before. I care about what he did 0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.040 in recent weeks, which is putting his quarterback, who was 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.960 hobbled in a divisional round game, into deep drops in 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.399 his own end zone with pressure bearing down on him 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.199 in a tight game. It's Situationally, I've had issues with 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.040 them all year, and a lot of the blame has 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.880 shifted to Jalen Hurts holding onto the ball too long, 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.000 which is somewhat valid at times, but I think that 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.480 he hasn't quite put them in the best spots all 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:45.680 the time, which is hard to do. 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:46.680 Nobody's perfect. 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.560 But in a matchup like this, where it's best on 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.760 best and the margin can be so slim, that's the 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.240 last guy I want to trust out of those coordinators. 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.320 So that's where it comes in as a negative thing. 0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.720 They are also if you look at them a year 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.520 over year, and I know they fell apart down the 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.560 stretch last year, but I did like just some digging 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.120 into where were they last year versus this year, prepping 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.080 for what might await more after this game. They finished 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.000 eighth in offense last year. They finished eighth and offense 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.080 in total yards again this year, but vastly different appearance. 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.960 They were second in rushing obviously with Saquon twenty ninth 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.200 in passing, which kind of leads to where we'll go 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.040 later in this game. In this preview regarding this game, 0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.360 I just don't I don't trust him. 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.720 Even those numbers are flattering to them because they're given 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:34.360 better advantages because of their defense. In terms of like 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.520 dv AWA and yeah, total efficiency, they've been pretty similar 0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.360 the last two years overall, You're right and in totally 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.560 different how they got there, But they're not even like 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.760 a top ten offense, which is crazy when you have 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.600 Saquon Barkley. And it's why the answer is clearly Spags 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.400 because he's the biggest bastard in maybe the history of 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.360 football in terms of defensive coordinator. At this point, you 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:58.840 gotta give him the love. Belichick would be there if 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.720 you counted him as like a play caller, and there's 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.760 been other ones, but I'm talking about what I know 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.320 best over the last twenty five years. They're the two. 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.640 They're the two on defense that would be at the 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.080 very top. And to me, the number one question in 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:18.760 this game is what you just said, Can Spagnolo make 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:20.640 Jalen hold the ball? 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:20.840 That? 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:21.560 To me? 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:21.880 Is it? 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.360 I honestly think that like that's going to be the test. 0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.720 You might be able to tell it early. When he's 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.239 getting rid of the ball quickly, everything can work, and 0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.560 when he's holding onto the ball, good things are just 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.560 not gonna happen. So with what he is showing, can 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.520 he make them hold onto the ball? And then when 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.360 he does hit on those blitzes because he will he 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:46.800 always does. Is it a catastrophic play for Jalen Hurts 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.680 or is it just a bad play? Is it a throwaway? 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.120 Is it a three yard sack? Like you can live 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.400 with that? You can't live with the turnovers, the fumbles, 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.600 the negative fourteen yard sacks that Hurts will take. So 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.360 to me, it's Hurts And it's so funny because it's 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.200 it's these storylines that have been traveling with him for 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.040 years since Todd Bowles did it to him how to 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.040 see handle the blitz? So it's can he get rid 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.160 of the ball? And when Spags does confuse their offensive line, 0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.800 which you will at some point, how does Hurts handle that? 0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.320 This offensive line. By the way, these tackles have like 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.640 the second and fifth best protection against pressure rate in 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.120 the NFL right now at their respective position. And still 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.240 despite that, and and part of this nick is about 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.920 Kellen Moore too. I refuse to say that this is 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.280 all about Jalen Hurts. But when he does hold onto 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.520 the ball, his pressure rate skyrockets to forty and a 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.680 half percent, despite the protection that he gets from those 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.000 two bookends on the outside. And he even takes a 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:46.920 long time to get the ball out against the blitz, 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.120 which also is a schematic thing two point eighty five 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.760 seconds on average per next gen, fifth longest in the NFL, 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:56.880 and has the second highest sack rate against the Blitz 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.280 in the NFL this season. And you have Saque mf 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.480 and Barkley, who is also a good pass catching outlet 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.719 back who is also a good pass pro back. I'm 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.880 gonna get to that later in the preview. But part 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:12.200 of this is just infuriating design as well, in my opinion, 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.640 and that's what I think SPAGS is gonna watch some 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.880 of the ways that teams, and particularly Rams a couple 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:22.320 of weeks ago, played Kellen Moore and almost forced Kellen 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:26.080 Moore to play into his worst habits and his worst tendencies, 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.960 and in turn, Jalen Hurts to play into his worst 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.560 habits and his worst tendencies, and he got teed off on. 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.120 And I do believe Steve Spagnolo is a huge factor. 0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.360 Meanwhile, he's like, you know, it's spending his nights putting 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.440 together his Saints staff. Here, I don't know. 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.800 This is know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's not good. 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:44.880 It's not setting up good for him. That doesn't mean 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.080 that I don't think that the Eagles can win. It's 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.680 just that that is the situation which he's gonna have 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:50.280 his work cut off for. 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:54.840 It's not quite Parcels making calls from I believe it 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:55.960 was in New Orleans. 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.480 Putting his house in the market in New Orleans. 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.240 From his hotel room, putting together his his staff. And 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:03.920 there was only there was only like one week in 0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.640 between at that point, between the Packers and the Patriots 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.880 Super Bowl, and he's not paying attention at all. In 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:13.040 Belichick's getting all mad because Parcels isn't paying attention before 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.680 Patriots Packers. That was a long time ago. Let's move 0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.280 on to what matters more experience or youth. We're way 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:19.560 behind pace here really quick. 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.320 Though. I want to say Jalen Hurts was great against 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.560 Baggs and the Blitzes in the last time these two 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:24.200 teams played in the. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.800 Champions It's a great it's a great point. 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.560 That thanks glad we got to it that like here. 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.520 He did handle it perfectly. Yeah, last time around, he 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.280 could not have played better. And I think he needs 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.760 to do what he did there, which was be aggressive, 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.760 you know what I mean, Like he's gonna have to 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.200 throw those go balls on like third and two when 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.320 they blitz and just trust trust himself. 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:48.120 Brown for that. 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.080 So that's good. What matters more here in this in 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.400 the Super Bowl, youth or experience? 0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.280 Nick, It is youth. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:59.640 It is youth because the Chiefs have paved their path 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.600 here by being the most annoying team to play against. 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:03.880 When they're on offense. 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.799 Third and five, Patrick Mahomes rolls out, everything's breaking down, 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.600 all hell is breaking loose, and yet he finds somebody 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.479 be on the line to gain or he's already five 0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.840 yards past the line of scrimmage and they're still biting 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.480 on the pump fake and they're gate picking up first downs. 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.319 How do you eliminate that? You eliminate that with a 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.200 bunch of young dogs who are athletic and can cover 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.200 a lot of field and who are coached really well. 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.080 And that is who these Eagles are. 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.960 I know that there's more experience on the side of 0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.520 the Chiefs, but the Eagles athletes, I think tip the 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.640 scales in their favor. They're also one of only two 0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.600 teams in the Super Bowl era to have the NFL's 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.920 rushing leader and the number one total defense in the NFL. 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:44.200 I just want to think about that for a second. 0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.279 The last team though did that was the Cowboys with 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:47.880 them at Smith. We know what happened with them. They 0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.880 won Super Bowls. They played the K gun offense, they dominated. 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.640 I have a feeling that if there's one antidote to 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.920 this Chiefs offense this year, and America can all get 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.760 on board with this because you all hate the Chiefs, 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.000 it is where whatever shade of green they wear, now 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.520 hopefully they go back to Kelly and the people with 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:05.280 the wings on their helmets. 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.680 It's Philadelphia, you okay, so you go youth. 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.920 It's funny because, yeah, the Chiefs has more starters returning 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.800 from this game fifteen to twelve, but they have a 0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:13.920 lot of young players too. When I think of vulnerabilities 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:19.000 for the Chiefs, it's people that nobody talks about. Jayden Hicks, 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.480 Brian Cook. I think about half their second maybe Jalen Watson, 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.600 maybe Chamar Economar who's healthy and like, these names never 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.279 come up, but those are guys that if Kellen Moore 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.560 and Jalen Hurts and those receivers do their jobs, they 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.800 should have mismatches with. So so there are two teams 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:38.120 that have a nice mix of youth and experience. But 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.479 it's the Eagles that are definitely a little younger. 0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.239 Yeah, And I was conflicted on this. It was a 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.640 great question because I just I can't shake this feeling 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:47.839 in my head that the Chiefs are The Chiefs are 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.799 like this monolith. They're like Pangaea breaking apart, like they 0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.240 are inevitable right like it is. So it's so hard 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.520 to stop them when you feel that sense of dread. 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.240 If they start playing stuff a ball, if a couple 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.919 of marginal things swing their way, you just can't shake 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.000 that feeling that they just know how to do this 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:08.920 and they've just been here before. At the same time, 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.400 that youth, that energy. It's the reason why this sprint 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.120 rebuild that Howie Roseman did is so successful so fast, 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.359 is because they identified the correct talent and they are 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:22.719 maximizing that young talent at every single position, which supplements 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.960 and even equals that in places they're core stars and 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:27.759 some of the veterans that they had on the roster. 0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:31.000 They swarm, and I think that's where you see the youth. 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:35.200 I do think they're a little bit faster overall, but 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.680 these are two pretty physical teams in a league that's 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.600 getting a little lighter. They're two of the bigger teams. 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.799 I like that. I'm going to kick off the next one, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.040 which is if a player is at his best, who 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.279 moves the needle in this scheme? And I want to 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:55.640 talk about Xavier Worthy's development. They are using him and 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.440 he is performing like a true number one receiver and 0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.799 he doesn't that mold because he's, you know, one hundred 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.960 and sixty five pounds, and you think about him that 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.080 he's not totally complete, and that's that's fine. They haven't. 0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.520 I mean, Sammy Watkins had one of the greatest postseasons 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.320 of all time on this team. He wasn't a complete receiver, 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.800 but for that postseason, he was a number one receiver 0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.960 and he helped them win a freaking super Bowl. And 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.960 Xavier Worthy is that guy. But more I think the 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.920 subtleties that they focused in on, and I think it's 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.680 a lot about Marquise Brown showing up and starting to 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.239 do some of the other Xavier Worthy things, where he's 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:35.319 got about three different types of routes that he can do, 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.440 and his footwork is so excellent and he is so 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.160 fast and he can win against any type of coverage, 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.879 and the offense is really built around him in a way, 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.880 I think over the last five weeks, especially the playoffs, 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.360 that it wasn't earlier in the season that he really 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.360 is that good. I don't think there's a good matchup. 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.400 Of course, the Eagles have a great secondary, but it's 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.520 not like I'm trusting any one of those guys in 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.799 a one on one situation. And they're a great team 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.239 in terms of their pattern match and passing off guys 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.120 and maybe that's how you do it. But if you 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.040 told me that he goes nine for one sixty five, 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.000 oh like something crazy like that, I actually think he 0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.440 is capable and he he is the guy playing at 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.520 a level that I don't think the rest of the 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.400 country is totally caught up to where he is now 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.360 because he's so different than where he was in the 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:23.040 first twelve weeks. 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.960 Well, it's also about the interconnectivity between what he can 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:29.000 do as running you know, pretty much a full tree 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:30.520 at this point, which he did in college, right, I mean, 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:32.000 I know you watched a lot of them in college. Nick, 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.080 he did that in college. So it's now it was 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.920 almost like getting like one toe after the other into 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.680 the water, like with him with Andy Reid and trusting 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.080 as Andy Reid likes to sort of test his receivers 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.279 and his skill players how much can I trust you 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.560 and how much can I stack onto your plate? You're 0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.560 really seeing it. And when he is in compliment with 0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.319 Hollywood Brown, the Chiefs over the last four games have 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.160 increased their scoring average by five points per game because 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.960 the interconnectedness of the two, it builds more dimension into 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.920 this passing game that was all like screens and traveling. 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.279 They were, they were the slow. They were somehow the 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.840 number one seed as the slowest team in the NFL. 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.440 And now when you watch them, like there are some 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.360 routes where the two of them fly off the ball 0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.040 and then they do comebacks because every everyone is like, 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.480 oh my god, these guys are actually fast, and it's 0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.880 just like you didn't see that. There wasn't that element 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.879 and the Chiefs offensive literally wasn't there. 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:23.239 Yeah. 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.600 I think I think Hollywood Brown is like one of 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.719 the biggest X factors in this game. Good or bad. 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.279 I'm not sure how it's going to go, but he 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.080 makes them so much faster. Give me your give me 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.200 your player who moves the needle. 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.000 Well, I think on that point it was a lack 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:38.359 of verticality and they can now get vertical. It's an 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.520 overall improven on all parts. My player, if he's at 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.480 his best, why does he move the needle? Going back 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.080 to the defensive side, Zach Bond, because of the point 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:48.640 I kind of just made the last one, which was 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.120 it's the stuff over the middle, Because if you are 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.000 spending time taking away suddenly an offense that can get 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:57.360 vertical outside, who is the one guy that's going to 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.600 be able to stop what the Chiefs do best, which 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.200 is fine sawt spots over the middle. Zach Bond the 0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.200 number one graded coverage linebacker in the NFL this season 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.600 according to PFF. I feel like a lot of teams 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:11.759 they've played have missed that X factor you go down 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.400 the path that they just followed, you know, playing Buffalo, 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:16.440 playing Baltimore, you could say Rocwon was that guy. But 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.000 it just seems like if I have to find one 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.480 player on this defense against them, and I feel like 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.120 I'm skewing heavy anti Chiefs and I'm not intentionally, but it. 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:25.960 Just feels like Zach Bond, Nah, don't do that. 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:26.480 Don't do that. 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.120 Unfortunately, Zach Bond, He's gonna be the guy that's gonna 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:32.759 be able to not only match up with Travis Kelce, 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:34.959 but also take away enough of that area. 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.240 But it's really still a collective effort on the defensive 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:37.640 side for that. 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:42.040 Yeah, the Eagles are one of the best linebacking teams 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.520 and defending the middle of the field, especially in coverage. 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:48.000 In the NFL, Travis Kelce has more yards in the 0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.000 middle of the field and against linebackers on passing plays 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.400 since since twenty eighteen, he has like the highest EPA 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.440 of any players just where he lives. Insane. Yeah, but 0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.560 like that is Zach Bond, NFL Daily, first Tea pro. 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.040 There you go. By the way, I didn't have the 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:04.799 heart to tell Fred Warner that he was on our 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.440 second team, but I was like, but it. 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.520 Had an incomplete because the injury. Yeah, yeah, we love 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.440 you Fred, one of the players of NFL Daily. Yeah. 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.759 So I think that that's a great point because that 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.520 is an X factor between Zach Bond and Cooper Dejean 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.560 and some of the rotations that they get into and 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.799 being able to trust the guys on the outside and 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.480 trust the safeties. That is going to make defending the 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:27.560 middle of the field so hard. And that's where the 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.400 Chiefs have liked to live and breathe through most of 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.640 the season before your guys emerged. I can't believe none 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.040 of you brought up the most obvious one outside of 0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.759 Pat Mahomes. It's just Saquon Barkley. You know that, that 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.440 obvious Yeah, I'll be I'll be that guy, Okay, But 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:46.160 Saquon Barkley, you you hold your breath every time he 0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.799 gets the ball, right, because if he it's not like 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.120 if he's going to break off the big run, the 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.040 explosive run, not just twenty plus yards run, but like 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.719 the fifty plus yards run, it's a matter of win. 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.520 And you just feel the state like a couple of 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.920 games of his in person, and like you just feel 0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:07.480 the entire stadium hold their breath every single time. And 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.279 I just think that it's just going to be an 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:15.239 absolute X factor if Saquon Barkley A does Saquon Barkley things, 0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.400 which is play really well in the first half, but 0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.520 then increase in his yards per carry and his effectiveness 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.160 and overall success rate through the second half of games, 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.879 which he's done all season, and if he has twenty 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.080 or more carries in a game. He has always every 0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.120 single game this season gone over one hundred rushing yards 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.120 and that is an absolute factor when you also count 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.759 this offensive line and you also count some of the 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.000 things that you need to do to a stay in 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.799 your A plus game plan and take the teeth out 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:43.880 of that bastard's blitz. 0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.279 There you go. I mean we said that word a lot. 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:47.560 I hope that's okay, bastard. 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.359 I think it's allowed. I am. 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:51.160 We mean it lovingly. 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.040 Want I want to go to what you think we 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:58.279 might be overlooking here because talking Saquon there, he's not 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.000 just you know, a runner, uh, He's a pass protector. 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.680 This is the thing that I've geeked out on so 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.080 much over this season. And by the way, it will 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.040 be hard for him to run against the Chiefs defense. 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.480 They have the lowest mistackle rate in the league this season, 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.919 and those linebackers are very good on the Chiefs defense too. 0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.840 So what I really really liked about what I watched 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.600 all season with Saquon Barkley is how he effectively navigates 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.239 his responsibilities in pass protection. It was so interesting the 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:29.760 way that the Commanders tried to attack using Frankie Louvu 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.640 as a blitzer pretty much anytime Saquon was off the 0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.040 field on a passing down or anytime he was split 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.040 out from the stack and into the flats as like 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:42.520 an outlet for a blitz play, they would attack. You know, 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.279 they would try to get to Jalen Hurts that way 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.000 because they did not have Saquon in pass pro. And 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.560 then they also that quarterback lead draw that they ran. 0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.680 They also like faked that Saquon was going to just 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.880 be in pass pro and instead he just like leaked 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:03.320 up the gaps as a lead blocker. So the Eagles 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.879 are very aware of his gifts and his talents here, 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.360 and I think that's another thing that could be a 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.520 game changer against Steve Spagnola in all of his ability 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.080 that we know he can do. But Steve Spagnola is 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.759 gonna have seen that on tape, and he's gonna he's 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.440 gonna look at those tendencies. He's gonna have seen some 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.439 of those things that even through the course of the game, 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.800 what dan Quinn was doing in order to try to 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.480 torment Jalen Hurts a little bit with that pressure, which 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.440 you know, Eagles broke that game wide open, But there 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.359 are a couple of times there where you thought, man, 0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.440 that's a good plan against the Eagles offense sneaky. 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.920 Big factor could be Kenny Gainwell. He's made himself some 0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.160 money this year. Yeah, I think he's a nice How great? 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.600 How great of our name for a running back is 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:44.000 gain Well. 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.640 Either way, it's the perfect I never even thought about it. 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:50.680 And you lose a lot when field, But I think 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.000 too Kenny Gainwell can make big plays. I think the 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.799 Chiefs might be a little vulnerable on the run. 0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:56.480 Do you like that we're air fiving over your head? 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:57.479 Does that make you feel good? 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.920 Is very uncomfortable. So it's like very very easy. 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.799 Greg, I swear to God three times you almost hit me, 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:05.600 and I swear to God. 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:06.879 I swear to God. Number four. 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.480 Who's the player or element we're overlooking Nick Bolton? 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:13.239 And it sounds a lot like what I just said 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.960 about Zac Bond, except Nick Bolton. The grades don't shine 0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.399 well on him, right. I think he's overlooked. He's never 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.000 garnered a postseason an accolade that he may have deserved 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:22.879 over the course of his career. 0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:23.520 But he makes. 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.000 Grades, especially the coverage ones, not like they're not a 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:28.920 piece to the puzzle. 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.200 Just saying I know nothing and I don't judge my 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:32.799 analysis on it. But I just know that if you're 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:39.120 looking to justify my analysis, he makes big plays. He 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:40.960 he just has a knack for coming through in the 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.160 biggest spots. I think back to what Week three against 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.640 Atlanta where he just shut down the Falcons rushing attempt 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.360 on fourth down to win that game. It was early, 0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:49.400 it was on the road, but it felt like a 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.480 tone setter and a reminder of this guy who was 0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:52.919 playing through a back issue at the time. 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.080 He's not going anywhere. He's got experience. 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:56.960 He made a big play in this Super Bowl two 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.680 years ago when they played in Phoenix with that return 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.319 of that fumble, which kind of swung the game in 0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.759 their favor. At that point, the Eagles had a lot 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.200 of the momentum. I just feel like he's gonna come 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.319 through in a big spot this time around. It's going 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:09.880 to be again kind of like what the Eagles is 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.440 going to be a collective effort. It always is. But 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.440 if there's one guy who I think people are not 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.560 paying attention to on this team, I mean, we could 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.440 talk about Carloft is obviously going people are gonna pay 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:18.759 attention to. 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:19.400 Chris Jones. 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.000 Don't forget about Nick. 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.239 Bole Now that linebacker crew is coming so cool. 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.719 The other on in this entire. 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.520 Run, dang good linebacker crew. 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.239 Like Drew Tranquil channel in Bolton. It's always rotating. There's 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.200 no more Willy Gay there. But like every year we 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.239 get to this point in the season, they always like 0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:37.400 it used to be a thing that it was always 0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.279 a weakness for them year after year after year, even 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.200 after Spegnola got there. And then they figured it out 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.600 about three or four years ago with with this crew, 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.680 and they've only gotten better and it makes them so 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:51.200 multiple As part of the reason, uh, my element people 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.880 are overlooking is just like this Chiefs team is so 0:46:55.000 --> 0:47:02.240 much better than they were eight weeks ago, yes, ago, 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:06.040 And I don't I don't think they're worse than they 0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.920 were two years ago. I think they're better than they 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:15.200 were at this point last year. Yes, think about what's changed. 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.359 For like, when you think about the AFC, was like, oh, 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.880 the Chief's gonna get lucky and get through. And then 0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.360 you actually watch how the Bills played over the last 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.880 month and watch how you know the Ravens played in 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.040 that game certainly and some of the ups and the downs, 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.040 and then you watch it. What's different about this Chiefs team. 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.720 Number one, I mentioned the speed with the receivers, they're 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.800 just a different offense. Number two that time off Hunt 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.880 and Mahomes in particular on offense, they look like different 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.600 players just in terms of their agility, so they're different. 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:50.400 Number three health I mentioned Amana who I mentioned on 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.960 the back end, it's some of it's some of their 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.719 rotational players. In terms of Samari Connor being back there, 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.960 it's Jalen Watson, who who's a huge upgrade from Nas 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.200 Johnson like that, that's a huge upgrade. It's not something 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:07.160 that you're really thinking about exactly. Justin Reid back there 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.280 wasn't always healthy one of like Omana, who wasn't healthy 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:14.719 at all this season. Like these are big time pieces 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.399 for them that they're essentially because they have a lot 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:22.640 of cap commitments replacing guys that were minimum salary, bottom 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.359 of the roster guys that they've done a good job 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.319 filling in. But it's one of the reasons they didn't 0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.440 look as good this year as a lot of those 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.040 guys were in there and they're not in there, and 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.040 as much you can actually kind of include like DeAndre 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.080 Hopkins and Justin Watson in that mix. They're not really 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.200 in the three receiver sets. So though, it wouldn't shock 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:43.479 me if like Watson shows up uh in the Super 0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.040 Bowl and like makes a couple of plays. So you 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.239 look at that, and then you also look at the 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.239 way Mahomes has been playing. We haven't talked Mahomes. I 0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.640 know you wanted to talk about him a little bit, 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.279 Jordan here. He's just been playing, I think a little 0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.640 more confidently, getting rid of the ball more quickly, and 0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.480 more willing to be aggressive over the last five You 0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.200 add all that up, and if this was the team 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.839 that we saw all season, we would have been like, oh, yeah, 0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:08.040 that's the best team in the NFL. Or maybe like 0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.600 you could convinced yourselves the Eagles or the Lions at 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:11.200 the time, where. 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:12.680 But it wouldn't be as mad at them because they 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:13.480 couldn't argue with you. 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:17.840 They wouldn't be lucky. These playoff results in December results 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.239 weren't lucky. If anything, the Bills were lucky to even 0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:23.160 be in that game. Yeah, let's just let's all hail 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.480 Patrick Mahomes before we move on to our final point. 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.759 I know, it's just it is so fun to watch 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.480 and play football, and I think it's it's interesting because 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.760 we go through these phases with players who are great, 0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:38.960 who are all time great, and I think it's actually 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:40.840 if you look at some of the on the ground 0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:45.160 chaddar and some of the narrative swings not necessarily year 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.719 over year, but week over a week, or you know, 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.040 fans and how fans react and all of those things, 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:54.040 it's hard to be that sustainably great without someone just 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.440 really hating you. Oh yeah, And and I just I 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:01.560 love that we are getting to watch the entire arc 0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:05.160 of this player's career in the biggest games, in the 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.720 biggest stages, and honestly, he is one of the biggest 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:13.160 X factors on the field for both teams. Saquon Barkley 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:14.960 is gonna make a huge difference in this game if 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:16.719 he can get going. We know that already. We know 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.040 that the Eagles, in my opinion, the Eagles are the 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.440 more complete of these two teams and the deepest of 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.880 dude teams. Right. But Patrick Mahomes has that magic in 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.880 him and he's just got this like when he really 0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:32.480 turns it on, it just you can't stop it. It's 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:35.040 like watching this wave coming at you and you're just 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.080 like all right, Well, this is my fate. 0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.000 Right, Like I think the weight of having to make 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:41.520 it every year and how tough it is to make 0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:44.680 it back every year like that does show up with 0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:46.360 the Chiefs. They just find a way to win like 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.400 ugly games during it and you can almost see him 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:50.600 playing with like a little more joy once they saw 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.120 the light at the end of the tunnel with the 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:53.320 three games and fifteen games. 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:55.279 That's what it happened, Chris. 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:57.520 It's kind of like, yeah. 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.200 Okay, the weight is finally off and now I'm just 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.200 back to Patrick and I'm playing ball play. 0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:02.480 They played the best ball of the year and they've 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:03.000 continue to do. 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.560 They have figured out how to peak late, and it 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:08.719 starts with their quarterback. He was still playing some of 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.600 the best football in the NFL for most of the season. 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.359 You know, we've talked about this. I'd get crushed. 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:14.680 Online every week. 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:16.680 Why is Mahomes in your top five? Because it doesn't 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.440 look good, But trust me, it's good. 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.480 A little style for him. 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.800 He had a down year for his caliber, for his standards. 0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:28.280 Yes, yes, because a lot of it was a slog 0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:29.319 early in the season. 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.640 It was creaky. Yeah, that's the word I use a 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.960 lot when I watched Travis Kelcey run like that, it 0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.840 was it felt creaky. Their whole operation just felt like 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:38.160 it just hurts. 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:40.279 But I think that they know that they have the 0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.879 opportunity to get here almost every year if they play 0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:43.440 it right. 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:46.000 And these are long seasons. I mean, they built for it. 0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:50.400 They are the greatest team of all time in terms 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:55.520 of a dynasty. If they win this game. It's really crazy. 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.120 I mean, you could say others if it had higher highs, 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.120 if you wanted to, or come up with some or 0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:03.160 to argument, but there is no argument against three straight 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.880 Super Bowls and making it five out of six years 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:10.560 and winning for it. There's just that it just hasn't happened. Now. 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.000 Shout out to the Packers, by the way, who get 0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:15.040 a little loss in the shovel. Like they did win 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:17.840 three straight championships. It just so happened. It was the 0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:22.480 last two uh NFL championships and the first couple the 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.480 last NFL championship, in the first couple of Super Bowls. 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.680 Half of it they weren't there. Merger, it doesn't count. 0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.520 It's honestly kind of stupid. They did win three three 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:34.440 state straight titles. It's just like the league changed one year. 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:40.800 Before the forward pass was barely legal. Ye just kidding. 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.880 I know you were five at that time, but that actually. 0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.319 That actually is still the best dynasty over like a 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.840 six eight year period, but it was a different league, 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.120 and we do count the Super Bowl as the bottom are. 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:54.960 So that's what I'm talking about. Final take. We got 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:56.000 to get out of here. We got we got a 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.160 lot of interviews. Uh, and we're getting to Greg Olsen next, 0:52:59.560 --> 0:53:03.719 so we're going to wrap this up. It's one final take, 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.040 so hot that it hurts my feelings or hurts your feelings. 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:12.320 Shout out to the underrated singer songwriter Caroline Policheck who 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.760 has a song, so You're so hot it hurts my feelings, 0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:15.879 which always stuck in my head. 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.800 You've said that a few times today. I've not reacted anytime, 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.239 and you keep saying it. Yeah, look at this poll. 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:26.040 Look at this poll. Pole p u lll like, look 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.000 at this deep cut. Look at this deep cut. 0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.120 Greg, Oh my god, I mean I'm gonna look at 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:31.960 Caroline Wow, Polo check. 0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:33.080 I think that's how you come on. 0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:35.239 She's got a lot of streams so Spotify. 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.920 It is shocking because and I know You guys did 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:39.680 this out of respect for the dock, right, because we 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.439 were all in the dock like talking back and forth 0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:44.399 with each other. But it is something that can fit 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:46.719 in so many of these categories, whether it's a game 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:50.640 changing scenario, whether it is a player at his best, 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:53.920 whether it is something we're all overlooking. And one of 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:55.600 the things that will probably make a difference in this 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.319 game that made a difference in the last matchup in 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.800 the Super Bowl when these two teams play was Patrick 0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:05.399 Mahomes scrambling and moving around. He doubles his scramble rate 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:09.560 in the postseason, and the Eagles are the number twenty 0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:14.480 two ranked defense against scrambling quarterbacks this year. His fifteen 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.359 percent scramble rate is the highest in his career, not 0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:20.480 just the postseason, and it absolutely killed the Bills a 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:21.200 couple weeks ago. 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:23.640 You know why the Eagle struggle with that, because when 0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:25.239 they're too busy flying around the field all the time 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.160 with all their youth, you lose a little bit discipline in 0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:27.600 that process. 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.480 Yeah, that's what swung this game two years ago. 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:31.680 Mahomes on a bad ankle, just takes off down the 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.040 middle of the field like it's always been a problem, 0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:35.160 but it could very much be a problem. 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:39.560 It sung's I feel like it swung every big Chiefs 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:44.520 game ever that he only runs when he absolutely needs 0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:47.160 to rip your heart out. He did it in his 0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:51.400 first playoff run ever, in one of the greatest comebacks 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.640 in NFL history against the defense that gave up three 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:56.799 points a couple weeks later in the Super Bowl. And 0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:59.279 the only reason Pat Mahomes doesn't have another Super Bowl 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:02.560 trophy because they lost the coin toss and the Patriots 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.480 got it first in the twenty eighteen Championship because he 0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.839 was going touchdown after touchdown after touchdout and a lot 0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:11.640 of it was him scrambling. It's absolutely rageous. My final 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:16.239 take is the Chiefs actually aren't that good defending the run, 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.719 and that their defense, if you want to find a 0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:21.799 flaw in the playoffs, hasn't been quite as good as 0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.800 they were in the regular season on outside zone runs 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:29.640 in the playoffs. You know who's cooked them. Joe Mixon. 0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.120 James Cook then did it too. If you add up 0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:34.600 their outside runs over the last two weeks, it's like 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.919 nineteen for one thirty two. Like play after play after play, 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.960 they are not really maintaining gapper integrity. Then you look 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.000 over the course of the season, what are they awful 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.319 at stopping tight ends like EPA per play success rate 0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.160 thirty first thirty second in the league's I think Dallas 0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:53.759 Goddard could take advantage. Those are two really important parts 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.560 of the Eagles. I think that's why the Eagles have 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.440 been good. They can hit you wherever your weakness is, 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:00.440 the outside runs and the tight end, and I think 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:01.480 that's how the Eagles do it. 0:56:01.600 --> 0:56:04.840 Nine point three yards per carry on outside runs for 0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:06.200 Saquon Barkley this season. 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:08.880 Look at that. That's team works NFL Daily. 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:10.920 Yeah, Hi five. 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:14.800 Is so hot that it hurts your feelings. 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.239 Shook polar opposite of what you just said, which is, 0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:20.839 if this Chiefs defense finds a way to shut down sau. 0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.240 Ken, Jalen Hurts and Kellen Moore overcome that, or are we. 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:30.040 Destined for a miserable experience in which Jalen Hurts is 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:30.440 forced to. 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.840 Hold onto the ball too long and it repeats that 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.200 little period against the Rams. 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:37.480 Who are you picking here? Are we going to pick 0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:37.960 the game? Why not? 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:42.080 That was also that was polar opposite, not polar opposite, 0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:44.280 which sounds the same, but are two very different words. 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.680 Because I say pole as pole, not poll. 0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:51.600 For like ten maybe three seconds there, I was like, 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:56.480 what is she talking about? 0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:57.960 I did to enunciate my us. 0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.480 I had no idea what five minutes when you said 0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:02.880 that's a nice poll, and I was like, that doesn't 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:03.359 make sense. 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:05.440 Yeah, looking just beyond you just. 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:09.600 Got to move on. I mean, I'm I'm taking the Eagles. 0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:12.880 I just said why. I'm not as bold as Claybon 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:15.359 who thinks they might be up a couple scores and 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.280 not have to sweat it out. But I do think 0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.760 they find a way. What I don't, I really hope 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:21.880 we're not all going Eagles. 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.600 Well, I was on board with Clayban with the same idea. 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.840 My score landed around like thirty twenty five that range, 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.600 and the idea is that it's really more like thirty seventeen. 0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.360 The Chiefs score, they go for two some sort of 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.000 you know, we end up in that range. But I 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:38.680 worry about that because. 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:41.080 You say it worry a lot. 0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.000 It's a way to threat. I'm also a threat. 0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:45.800 We're all picking a lot of anxiety in this body. 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:46.040 Here. 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:48.240 The Eagles had such a lead in the in this 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:50.040 first iteration, I know these are two different teams two 0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:52.560 years ago, but I hate the idea of them being 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.840 building another big lead and then my home storm's back inevitable. 0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:59.120 Like you said, So, I'm not super I'm confident Eagles 0:57:59.160 --> 0:57:59.560 are winning. 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.640 Oh we're all picking the Eagles because hell yeah, I'm 0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.240 picking the Eagles twenty four to twenty one. And I 0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.000 think that the first at least the first half of 0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:09.000 this is going to be just a delight of a 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:12.200 defensive battle that'll get the non ball Knower's going. 0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.520 Eh, we're super Bowl ever, the super Bowl nobody. 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:18.000 Wanted, when actually it is a beautiful masterclass in these 0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:19.720 two defensive coordinators who rock. 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.840 As we've gotten closer to it, and I wonder if 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.800 that's everyone out there, or maybe it's just the people 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.360 I've talked to, I think, what have you gotten closer? 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:33.040 It's like, actually, these are two incredible, kind of historic teams. 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.480 The Eagles have been this good for a while, two 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:38.480 super Bowls out of three, but also one of the 0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:41.160 best NFC teams really throughout the Howie Roseman era, and 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:43.560 this chief team, like the players, the coaches, it's an 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.200 incredible matchup. We're not done talking about this game. Just yet, 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:52.320 We're going to bring on another ball nowhere. That's Greg Olsen, yes, 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:56.240 of Carolina Panthers' fame, but also now of Fox Sports. 0:58:56.640 --> 0:59:04.000 Right after the break back here on NFL Daily. Thrilled 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:07.959 to be wrapping up the best preview show in the game. 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.560 We started with Fred Warner, we gave you the nitty 0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:14.200 gritty in the middle, and now we have Greg Olsen, 0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:18.760 for my money, the best color man analyst in the 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:23.280 business and apparently a long time buddy of Jordan Rodrigue, 0:59:23.480 --> 0:59:24.160 who knew. 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.919 We go way back to those early Panther beat days 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:30.240 standing by my locker having to answer why we win 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:31.200 win more games? 0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:34.760 Okay, to be fair, was that. 0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:36.040 What you're tell me? Remind me what you're using? 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:36.480 Sixteen? 0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:39.800 Yeah, okay, you got seventeen, Yeah, you got seventeen. Playoffs 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.840 was fun and then and then you were there. 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:42.439 Yeah. 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.080 Then, but I got to tell you, like Greg, I 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.800 mean listeners, like you guys got to know what kind 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:50.120 of guy Greg was in the locker room. I mean, 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:54.200 I was a kid recorder, scared every single day walking 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.360 in there. You got me in with Ryan Khalil, which 0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:58.440 was a big deal, and then you looked out for 0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:00.480 me every single day I was in there and you 1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:03.000 explained things to me, which I loved and it really 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:05.680 had helped me set up. And when people are saying, hey, 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:08.960 he's going to get into commentary, into color analysis and 1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:11.200 all of that, I was like, I mean, obviously he 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:13.560 explains things better than anyone else. 1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:15.760 I appreciate you saying that it was fun working with you. 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.280 It's been fun to see your career just continue to 1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:20.720 ascend and it's all come full circle. 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:22.720 I know here we are on the daily desk. 1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:24.920 I know, I know, I know Greg Wilson loves talking 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:28.000 ball because he said he's been here for what is 1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:28.680 this seven. 1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:31.680 Now, I wasn't doing media the whole time. I had 1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:34.480 a panel, like a press conference panel I had to do. 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:39.360 But I'm going on, that's a wild eight hours. He's 1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:41.360 here with DraftKings. We're going to ask him about that 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:42.160 in a little bit. 1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:44.280 But I wanted to get into the game and and 1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:48.320 just you're looking, let's start on the Eagles offensive side 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:52.360 of the ball. If like, what is the coolest thing 1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:55.480 that they do in terms of the running game that 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:58.680 maybe the average fan would wouldn't totally understand it in 1:00:58.760 --> 1:01:02.560 terms of the details that they get done to help 1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:04.160 Saquon Barkley do what he does. 1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:06.640 Yeah, so, I think the first place you have to 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:09.360 start when you start talking about a team's willingness and 1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:12.440 ability both of those things to do really well in 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:15.560 the run game. You can talk about the offensive line 1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:17.680 and the scheme and the running back and Sakon. We 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:19.520 can go on and on about that, we probably will, 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:23.439 but none of it matters if you're playing in shootouts. 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:26.200 None of it matters. If you're not playing good defense, 1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:29.360 none of it. Like when anytime you talk about it 1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:32.920 offenses ability to run the football, it always starts on defense. 1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:36.560 And when you talk about a defense's ability or inability 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:39.320 to stop the run, my first question is, well, how 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:41.640 many points does their offense score? Because if your offense 1:01:41.720 --> 1:01:44.080 is scoring seventeen a game, you better stop the run. 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:46.640 If your offense is scoring thirty a game, it doesn't 1:01:46.680 --> 1:01:48.919 matter if you stop the run or not, because lep 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.680 teams run it, you're not gonna beat me. So it 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:54.280 always starts with the other complementary side of the ball 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:56.720 that sets the table right, So obviously they check that box. 1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:57.360 Picfangio. 1:01:57.440 --> 1:02:01.480 The job he's done defensively, Now what they do you 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:03.640 think two years ago when they were on this stage, 1:02:03.840 --> 1:02:06.680 it was Miles Sanders. He was a twelve hundred yard rusher. 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:11.760 This has been a traditionally high level running team. Jalen 1:02:11.840 --> 1:02:13.760 Hurts is a factor in that, and of course the 1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:16.720 offensive line and the style and the coaching and YadA, 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:19.360 YadA yad. Now all of a sudden, you insert arguably 1:02:19.360 --> 1:02:21.080 the best, one of the best running backs. Right, it's him, 1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:24.440 It's McCaffrey, it's Derrick Henry, It's that small group of 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:27.400 guys over the last handful of years that are generationally 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:30.840 good running backs, and you put them behind this offensive line, 1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:33.880 and now this is where you get the magic. Right, 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:35.520 So it's the whole thing. Like I can't believe the 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:38.280 Giants let him go. No offense to Sa Kwon Barkley 1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:41.400 or the Giants, but Sejuon Barkley wasn't rushing for two 1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:43.640 thousand yards, and if he did, they were probably gonna 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:46.520 not win a game because they weren't ready to have 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:48.320 a great running team because it wasn't going to move 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:51.600 the needle. So they checked so many boxes. What that 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:54.760 unlocks for them to do philosophically with the third downs 1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:57.720 and fourth down and the tush push, and it can 1:02:57.720 --> 1:02:59.600 go on and on about what it unlocks for them. 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:04.320 But it's a very special combination that most teams don't have, 1:03:04.480 --> 1:03:07.120 which is why you don't see most teams run the 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:08.640 ball this frequently. 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:11.360 I love what you said about bringing the complement of 1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:13.040 the defense in there too, great because I'm wondering if 1:03:13.040 --> 1:03:14.680 you can explain a little bit more to the listener 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:18.440 about just how much Vic Fangio's death by one thousand 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:21.840 paper cuts system is really the inversion of the suffocation ball. 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:25.400 They play on offense and really plays keep away in 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:26.680 the best way from teams. 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:27.480 I love that. 1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:29.640 Well, I've been covering a lot of Kyle Shanahan, so 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:31.080 you know it's a dark time the. 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:33.959 Like I like, he's great. 1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:37.200 So yeah, so again you can't. So again, you think 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:39.840 about the two year journey for Philadelphia to be back 1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:42.800 in this spot, and their defense under Jonathan Gannon two 1:03:42.880 --> 1:03:45.520 years ago was really good. The offense under Shane Steichen 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:48.640 was really good. They lose a close one shootout, wasn't 1:03:48.680 --> 1:03:51.640 their defense's best game, but they're playing Mahomes and things 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:55.439 happen and they lose both coordinators and then last year 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:58.800 they definitely take a step back defensively, and they take 1:03:58.800 --> 1:04:02.480 a signific again step back also offensively, and he has 1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:05.280 to Sirianni now has to bring in a new set 1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:09.520 of coordinators. Again, that is very hard to do. You're 1:04:09.520 --> 1:04:11.200 in and year out on either side of the ball, 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:14.760 let alone both. Now, somehow the miracle that Vic Fangio 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:16.600 is not good enough to be down in Miami and 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:20.440 he's available. As a whole other conversation, but he's available. 1:04:20.680 --> 1:04:23.280 He's a great fit. It's exactly what they needed. They've 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.560 got some young pieces. He kind of brings the experience, 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:27.600 he brings the edge, he brings what they need. And 1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:31.720 now everything that their offense wants to be is perfectly 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:34.480 complimented by what the defense was all season long. I 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:37.400 think they finished either one or two in total or 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:42.960 overall points allowed. And again, without that, so many aspects 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:45.520 of what makes the offense so good is less effective, 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:48.000 So you can't get I would argue that Fangio's the 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:50.520 Assistant Coach of the Year or whatever that award is, 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:54.040 because his impact on that team to get them back 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:57.680 to this super Bowl is as equally important as Saquon 1:04:57.760 --> 1:04:59.840 and Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown and Kellen Moore, and 1:04:59.880 --> 1:05:03.080 they we all deserve their flowers, but it hinges on 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:06.000 the ability that the opponent's not scoring a million points. 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:08.080 We saw that all kind of come together in the 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:10.480 NFC Championship game, right, you forced all the turnovers, you 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:12.880 capitalize offensively. But for much of this season, I feel 1:05:12.920 --> 1:05:15.040 as if, especially since probably a week seven, it's been 1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:18.160 more about the defense than anybody. Right, they hold the 1:05:18.200 --> 1:05:20.520 Giants to three points, they start to ride this wave. 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:23.160 Saquon is the face of the offense, but I feel 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:24.800 like what we don't pay attention to at times. What 1:05:24.800 --> 1:05:26.960 I want to ask you about is how is he 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:29.120 married with this offensive line? Because they've undergone a lot 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:31.320 of changes. You know, year over year, they lost Kelsey, 1:05:31.400 --> 1:05:33.120 they moved Jurgens over to center, where he was playing 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:35.080 center in college before he had to play guard. You 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:37.200 have a number of different guys mckaype Beckton goes from 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:39.680 tackle to guard. What can you say about all the 1:05:39.760 --> 1:05:42.200 changes that they've undergone and how it's kind of just 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:43.000 led them here. 1:05:43.080 --> 1:05:44.640 Yeah, I think it's a great question. I think when 1:05:44.680 --> 1:05:48.600 you bring in these really established veteran running backs, you know, 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:50.560 you look at just this past year. Right, you got 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:54.000 Joe Mixon down in Houston, you got Derrick Henry in Baltimore, 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:57.040 you got Saquon obviously in Philadelphia, and all of them 1:05:57.120 --> 1:06:01.040 to mixed results in different But what team find themselves 1:06:01.040 --> 1:06:02.840 being forced to do is they say, Okay, I'm taking 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:04.920 in Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, whoever it is. 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:07.960 What do they specialize in? Right? 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:10.160 Are they gap runners? Are they inside zone? Are they 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:12.400 perimeter runners? Are they one cut and go guys? Or 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:15.040 they see it patient and then hit it. Every running 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:18.000 back has their different style and flavor. But what happens 1:06:18.040 --> 1:06:19.680 is now you bring in this running back and you 1:06:19.760 --> 1:06:22.120 pay them a gazillion dollars and you say, okay, I 1:06:22.560 --> 1:06:24.280 gotta do what they're comfortable doing. I'm not going to 1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:27.200 ask Saquon Barkley to not do what he's comfortable doing. 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:29.640 But then what that does is, well, what about the 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:32.280 offensive line. What if you have an offensive line that's 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:33.919 built to be a zone team and all of a sudden, 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:37.440 you want to be a gap scheme down downhill counter team, 1:06:37.720 --> 1:06:39.640 or you want to be a downhill gap counter team, 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:42.400 and your big bodies and you're big and vertical, and 1:06:42.400 --> 1:06:44.120 maybe you're not as good on the perimeter. Maybe you 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:46.720 can't get big bodies in space. Well, then you have 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:49.200 the Philadelphia Eagles, and they can run zone, they can 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.160 run counter, they can spread you out, they can pack 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:53.320 you in, they can play, they can play vertical and 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:55.520 remove you off the line of scrimmage. They can pin 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:58.080 and get big bodies out on the perimeter. They have 1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:01.680 the combination of the verse running backs who can really 1:07:01.760 --> 1:07:05.080 check every box to go along with an offensive line 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:07.280 that is not going to be challenged or strained by 1:07:07.360 --> 1:07:12.120 anything that Saquon Barkley or Kellen Moore feel comfortable doing. Again, 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:15.960 that's not normal, Like, that's not most teams. That's not 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:19.920 how most offenses. They build it around a certain identity 1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:22.080 and they lean into it because that's the best way 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:26.400 to maximize it. There's so many layers to this Philadelphia 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:29.400 team that one unlocks, the next unlocks the next, and 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:32.479 when it all rolls together, they're really good. 1:07:32.960 --> 1:07:33.160 Yeah. 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:34.840 I love that. And one of the things Greg brought 1:07:34.880 --> 1:07:37.720 up earlier in our preview, our middle portion we were 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:39.840 like in a sandwich between Fred and Greg is great. 1:07:40.080 --> 1:07:43.520 The outside run Saquon Barkley nine and a half yards 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:45.560 per outside run that he's had this year at thirty 1:07:45.560 --> 1:07:47.520 seven times, we think that might be a factor here, 1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:49.920 stretching that Chiefs defense out a little bit wider. But 1:07:49.960 --> 1:07:51.560 I have to ask you because we do want to 1:07:51.600 --> 1:07:54.280 talk about the Chiefs, and I know we've only got 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:55.720 you for a limited amount of time. We could talk 1:07:55.720 --> 1:07:58.720 to you all day, Greg, but how do you counter 1:07:59.680 --> 1:08:03.000 what's deef Spagnolo is going to bring? And how have 1:08:03.080 --> 1:08:05.640 you I mean, I know you have watched the history 1:08:05.680 --> 1:08:08.720 files of Spags and admired him for a long time, 1:08:08.800 --> 1:08:12.240 So how has he continued to do this? And how 1:08:12.320 --> 1:08:13.520 do you stop those blitzes? 1:08:13.600 --> 1:08:17.000 Yeah, the play callers and the assistant you know, the coordinators, 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:19.280 play callers and Andy Reid case obviously he's the head coach, 1:08:19.320 --> 1:08:22.000 but just the assistance, the staff, the play callers, the 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:26.799 coordinators of this matchup are equally as entertaining and equally 1:08:26.840 --> 1:08:29.200 as interesting as the star players. I mean, these are 1:08:29.560 --> 1:08:32.400 as good of combination of especially on the defense side 1:08:32.400 --> 1:08:34.760 of the ball, defensive play callers, as you're going to find 1:08:34.760 --> 1:08:37.400 in the league with Spags and Fangio. So what's so 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:40.800 unique about Spags, especially when he has this this two 1:08:40.800 --> 1:08:42.840 week head start and not a head start like a 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:45.599 two week lead in is his ability to be game 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:49.040 plan specific, to attack you at what you do is 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:50.840 really what his calling card has been all the way 1:08:50.880 --> 1:08:54.160 back to the Giants. So his ability to game plan 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:56.240 his ability to say, Okay, what are the ways that 1:08:56.320 --> 1:09:00.840 I can eliminate Saquon Barkley without exposing myself on the 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:03.640 back end to quick passing game, explosive plays on the 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:06.080 perimeter to AJ Brown and not let DeVante Smith get 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.000 over the top, Like how do I put all of 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:10.920 the things that Philadelphia is capable of doing in a bucket, 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:14.880 organize them and say okay, this is priority one, this 1:09:14.960 --> 1:09:17.639 is priority two, and work his way down the checklist. 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:20.680 So if I'm Spags, I'm saying, Okay, I don't want 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.360 Jalen Hurts to operate as a passer inside the pocket. 1:09:23.520 --> 1:09:25.960 I want to get him moving laterally. I don't want 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:28.559 him moving up in the pocket. He's a better I 1:09:28.600 --> 1:09:32.479 think he's a better pocket thrower and a scramble runner 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:36.160 than he is a scramble thrower. And what I mean 1:09:36.160 --> 1:09:38.360 by that is so often when you play quarterbacks that 1:09:38.439 --> 1:09:40.800 have this skill set, you hear every coach in the 1:09:40.840 --> 1:09:43.040 league say keep him in the pocket. Keep him in 1:09:43.080 --> 1:09:45.559 the pocket, don't let him escape. I think Jalen Hurts 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:49.240 is one of the unique conversations where like, no, I 1:09:49.280 --> 1:09:51.599 want him to move now. I don't want him running forward. 1:09:52.040 --> 1:09:54.800 I want him running sideways and make him throw on 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:58.160 the run towards the sideline because in the pocket on time. 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:01.559 As an effective in rhythm passer, he's really good. He's 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:04.160 got great weapons, he's got great timing, he's got anticipation, 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:06.320 he trusts his line, so all of those things play 1:10:06.360 --> 1:10:06.960 into his favor. 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:08.080 He will kill you. 1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:11.040 As a scramble runner, I think he can. You can 1:10:11.080 --> 1:10:14.040 force him to take sacks, throw the ball away, force 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:16.760 the ball into some bad windows. As a on the 1:10:16.840 --> 1:10:19.840 move passer in scramble drill, so I would try to 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:24.720 get interior pressure, off ball pressure inside games, get that 1:10:24.880 --> 1:10:27.800 pocket in his lap and get him moving sideways. 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:29.840 And now you've got to be able to plaster. 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:31.320 Now you've got to be able to match up on 1:10:31.400 --> 1:10:34.560 second reaction drill with Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddter and 1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:37.320 aj Brown, which again is a challenge all and of itself. 1:10:37.320 --> 1:10:39.799 But I think Spags is as good of a defensive 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.960 play caller as we've seen in the history of the league. 1:10:42.080 --> 1:10:44.559 He's as good of a game planner, especially in these 1:10:44.560 --> 1:10:46.920 big moments of any defensive play caller we've seen in 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:48.960 the history of the league. And he's going to have 1:10:49.160 --> 1:10:53.360 something unscouted, something that they haven't seen before that Philly's 1:10:53.360 --> 1:10:55.600 gonna have to identify early in the game and have 1:10:55.680 --> 1:10:56.240 a plan. 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:58.200 For before we let you go. I want to you 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:00.760 did this game a couple of years ago. Great call 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:02.720 on the game. We got to get Greg back on that. 1:11:02.720 --> 1:11:04.559 That's a whole other story. But what do you think 1:11:04.720 --> 1:11:08.040 is different better maybe about Patrick Mahommes now than then, 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:10.040 or at least different I. 1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:13.599 Think their offenses played. Their offense wasn't the juggernaut this 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:15.719 year or really the last couple of years that we've 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:19.880 seen the early days, right where it was lightning in 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:23.000 a bottle, It was Tyreek, it was Kelsey, they were flying. 1:11:23.080 --> 1:11:25.920 It was like fireworks all over town. They went through 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:28.200 a very interesting transition the two year you know, the 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:30.400 Super Bowl two years ago when they beat Philly. Remember 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:33.800 the narrative the entire season long was you can't win 1:11:33.880 --> 1:11:37.120 with this young rookie laden defense, and then they won 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:39.960 the Super Bowl and then last year there's the turnover, 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:42.559 there's the uncertainty at wide receiver and skill group other 1:11:42.600 --> 1:11:46.040 than Kelsey, who does he have? And the defense really 1:11:46.080 --> 1:11:48.839 carried the load. They became the strength and the identity 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:51.040 of the team. I think this year it's balanced out 1:11:51.080 --> 1:11:53.280 more than it was in the past. Now, is this 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:56.439 offense the high scoring thirty mid thirties pointed game they 1:11:56.479 --> 1:11:59.600 were in the Tyreek era years ago. No, but I 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:01.880 don't think they have to be right like in those 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:04.840 days because the defense wasn't as strong. They were planned 1:12:04.880 --> 1:12:07.120 to just outscore you from the moment they got the ball. 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.760 They don't feel that pressure anymore. So they have the 1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:12.920 ability to win shootouts. They did two years ago that 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:16.400 they can win a thirty point game, but they don't 1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:18.960 have to. And I think that's the biggest difference with 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:22.000 this Chiefs, This iteration of the Chiefs then like the 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:24.800 not even the last couple of Super Bowls, but like 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.639 the previous era of that, like early in Mahomes' career, 1:12:27.880 --> 1:12:30.120 they just wanted to outscore you and how offense you 1:12:30.680 --> 1:12:33.280 they can, they don't have to, and that's a credit 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:36.519 to their ability to rebuild this defense through the draft. 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:38.799 Through free agency, of course, Chris Jones being the constant 1:12:39.320 --> 1:12:43.439 and that defense. It's an understatement, but like more than 1:12:43.520 --> 1:12:44.479 carries their fair shit. 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:47.519 It seems like since Christmas they've taken a next step offensively, though. 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:48.680 What has really kind of keyed that? 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:50.920 In your opinion, good teams with good coaches and good 1:12:50.960 --> 1:12:54.080 quarterbacks and veteran players DeAndre Hopkins and Travis Kelce. Those 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:55.960 guys have played a lot of football. Yeah, and I 1:12:56.000 --> 1:12:58.400 think the offensive line has settled down. I think he's 1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:00.719 getting better protection than he has over the last stretch. 1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:05.000 And listen, you got the best player. He could go 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.160 down as the best player ever. He's on his way. 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:10.320 He's not there yet, but he's damn near close. And 1:13:10.640 --> 1:13:14.080 he's got Kelsey, He's got DeAndre Hopkins again later, but 1:13:14.120 --> 1:13:17.920 a veteran late Like good players get better the longer 1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:19.519 it goes. The goal is not to be the best 1:13:19.520 --> 1:13:22.599 team in September and October, and they've proven that. They've 1:13:23.040 --> 1:13:25.120 no one's ever coming out of the first half the season, 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:28.240 being like the Kansas City Chiefs are a juggernaut. We 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:31.080 haven't said that for years, yet here we are in 1:13:31.080 --> 1:13:33.880 February and they're the last team stand one of the 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:34.759 last two teams. 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:37.400 Stands as I admire your your bracelets. Can you tell 1:13:37.479 --> 1:13:40.240 us what you're doing here with Draft Kings. Yeah, I 1:13:40.320 --> 1:13:41.160 like the bracelet game. 1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:43.320 One of them is the football team he coaches by. 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:45.240 One of them is their football team. One of them 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:45.879 is TEU. 1:13:46.040 --> 1:13:48.320 We got a whole bunch of stuff going again, a 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:51.320 pod for another day, But it's been a lot of fun. 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:53.720 I've worked with Draft Kings over the last year or so, 1:13:53.800 --> 1:13:56.160 you know, helped them when they brought sports betting to 1:13:56.320 --> 1:13:57.040 North Carolina. 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:57.960 Was a part of that launch. 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:00.719 And again this is the week right where everyone tunes 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.080 into the game for a lot of different reasons. Of course, 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:04.840 you're a die hard Chiefs fan, you're a die hard 1:14:05.320 --> 1:14:07.840 Philadelphia fan, or you're just a football fan, or you 1:14:07.840 --> 1:14:09.439 want to have a little entertainment value, you want to 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:10.680 have some skin in the game, you want to have 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:13.400 a fun prop bet, you want to there's something for 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:17.479 everyone from the entertained purpose that draws people into the 1:14:17.479 --> 1:14:20.600 biggest spectacle in all of sports. And with DraftKings and 1:14:20.640 --> 1:14:23.240 their partnership and what they allow for their fans and 1:14:23.280 --> 1:14:25.960 their customers to just again connect with the game, even 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:28.240 a little bit deeper, have a little bit more vested 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:30.680 rooting interest in the outcome. Even if you don't care 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:34.479 who necessarily wins, you might care who wins for other right, 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:36.040 so for the other reasons. So I think that's so 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:38.720 much fun. No bigger week than super Bowl week. And 1:14:39.120 --> 1:14:40.559 it's been a lot of fun working with them over 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.160 the last couple of last year or so. 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:44.800 And honestly, it's funny. I know you're describing DraftKings, but 1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:45.880 you also describe yourself. 1:14:45.880 --> 1:14:46.120 Greg. 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:49.240 You bring people into the game unlike any other and 1:14:49.720 --> 1:14:52.519 in ways that really help people feel connected and like 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:55.400 they are they do have a vested interest a stake 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:58.360 in it, because you describe those stakes so well. And 1:14:58.400 --> 1:14:59.960 I'll say it and tell them blue in the face, 1:15:00.200 --> 1:15:01.720 but one of my favorites of all time. 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:02.599 Appreciate you guys. 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:05.759 You're sitting here next to me, and yet I'm suddenly 1:15:05.800 --> 1:15:08.200 transported just hearing that voice and some of the Yeah 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:10.960 if you're talking about to my couch and playing Madden, Yeah, yeah, 1:15:11.360 --> 1:15:13.160 you're You're a big part of our lives now. 1:15:14.439 --> 1:15:16.719 You can't. I love that com good combo. 1:15:16.840 --> 1:15:17.519 It's great. 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:19.200 We have a lot of fun with Matt and that's 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:21.479 that's that's been a lot of fun. Actually, I didn't 1:15:21.479 --> 1:15:23.599 know anything about the process of it all, and it's 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:29.080 actually a fairly interesting recording process. Just making up stories 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:31.280 in your head off of an Excel sheet. It's a 1:15:31.280 --> 1:15:33.040 little more challenging early on, it was a little more 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:34.720 challenging than I thought it would be. I'm getting my 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:38.000 groove now, but uh, you know you're calling You're calling 1:15:38.040 --> 1:15:42.080 lines of the game off of spreadsheets and game situations 1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:45.840 typed out. There's no video, there's no context, there's no 1:15:46.000 --> 1:15:49.960 who is it. It's like completion third and ten converted, 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:52.720 first down, outer third of the field, second quarter up 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:53.400 by ten go. 1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:56.439 Yeah, decades of knowledge. 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:58.920 I don't know who did it? What was the past? 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:00.760 Was he open? Was he covered? Did he touch with what? 1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.240 I don't know? Like, but uh, it's been a lot 1:16:03.240 --> 1:16:04.439 of fun. I've got my groove with it. 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:08.960 And uh, ten year old Walker rose Thal he's going 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:12.000 to announcer preferences and he's clicking that to Rico and 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:18.040 Olsen button thank you all right, there goes Greg Olsen's man. 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:19.679 I could have sat there. 1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:22.280 And just kind I know that used to be me. 1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:24.160 I'd stand at his locker and he would just talk 1:16:24.200 --> 1:16:27.360 ball and just teach for forever, and it just oh man. 1:16:27.640 --> 1:16:29.200 It's one of those things. We're at the end of 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:31.160 the day here. He's been here since nine am. He's 1:16:31.200 --> 1:16:35.000 been doing a lot of stuff. Bet I was tempted 1:16:35.040 --> 1:16:37.360 to just push that as far as we can go. 1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:39.400 It's like, can we just do an hour with Greg Olsen? 1:16:39.439 --> 1:16:41.240 Because I just have a feeling like I'm sure his 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:44.040 handler at some point would have uh stepped in, but 1:16:44.120 --> 1:16:47.360 he seemed like he was enjoying the conversation. 1:16:48.800 --> 1:16:50.920 Maybe I was ready to drill down. 1:16:51.920 --> 1:16:55.320 Look, yeah, they try to build big threes in the NBA. 1:16:57.120 --> 1:17:00.400 Bosh And and Dwayne Wade and Lebron He here's your 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:05.080 big three right here. Good first day at the Super Bowl, 1:17:05.120 --> 1:17:10.080 first time NFL Daily on site. Really excited. Why are 1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:10.479 you laughing? 1:17:10.560 --> 1:17:13.200 I'm just curious now, like like Jordan's laughing over here, 1:17:13.200 --> 1:17:17.160 and I know she's thinking, like, which one's Chris Bosh No, I. 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:20.479 Didn't want to think about that. It's a good point. 1:17:20.240 --> 1:17:23.360 Though, anyway, don't write it. 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:25.160 Do you do you have any takeaways from your. 1:17:25.120 --> 1:17:27.519 First I just I loved it. I thought this was 1:17:27.560 --> 1:17:29.920 so much fun. I like to learn as you guys know, 1:17:30.040 --> 1:17:32.599 and I feel like every guest we had. Getting to 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:36.720 talk to both Fred and Greg, elite ball knowers on 1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:40.720 a podcast that prides itself on knowing ball, it was 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:44.400 fun and they genuinely enjoyed being here with us. It 1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:47.080 seemed like otherwise they're really good at faking it, and 1:17:47.200 --> 1:17:49.959 it just was. I just I had the best. 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:51.639 Time and the time just go so fast. 1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:54.559 We got Greg a square meal. Shout out to iHeart 1:17:54.600 --> 1:17:57.479 because Greg, you know, we have three meals a day, 1:17:57.520 --> 1:17:59.800 and one of my prime goals internally I didn't tell 1:17:59.800 --> 1:18:02.680 you that was make sure Greg because Greg is a 1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:04.720 machine and he'll just work all the way through and 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:06.760 you got to make sure he eats otherwise he starts 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:08.120 to look at if I was if I was. 1:18:08.120 --> 1:18:10.040 A little off for that Warner interview, I was not. 1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:11.080 You were great. 1:18:12.960 --> 1:18:15.120 Fuel for the Yeah. 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:17.360 I Heeart has taken such good care ofcters today. 1:18:17.439 --> 1:18:20.240 It's we got a long week ahead. As I mentioned, 1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:26.839 Thursday is a massive show, a lot of really good guests, 1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:32.519 as I mentioned Jaden Daniels, Jordan Love, Ashton Janty Stars, 1:18:32.600 --> 1:18:35.519 Puka Nakua and uh and more, and we're gonna have 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:38.080 great interviews on Friday as well. I'm glad you guys 1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:42.439 will be next to me, and yes, let's let's wrap 1:18:42.560 --> 1:18:48.000 this thing up. When when we're hearing Greg Olsen's Madden 1:18:48.120 --> 1:18:51.320 voice in our head, except he's like right next to 1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:53.040 me and I just I just want to touch him. 1:18:53.240 --> 1:19:00.160 You know, football is back, y,