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Speaker 1: This may be annoying to some, I'm not sure. In

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Speaker 1: that Jerry Jones continues to sell everything, right, the ultimate

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Speaker 1: salesperson can sell ice to the Eskimos. That's the expression.

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Speaker 1: You have to have a BS in BS and so

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones who has And we'll get into it a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. I commend my boy Jason Stewart on

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Speaker 1: really tell me, hey, if you're going to watch a documentary,

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Speaker 1: you need to watch The Cowboys America's team documentary, which

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Speaker 1: because there's so much good content and interesting stuff. But again,

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Speaker 1: he is Jerry Jones, a salesman. He's even now selling

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Speaker 1: on Good Morning America. The reasons he pulled to mic

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Speaker 1: Up Parsonsdale off, we.

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Speaker 2: Have two kinds of capital or currency in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: One of them is draft picks. The other is the

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Speaker 2: financial because every team is limited to the same amount

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Speaker 2: of resources to spend. And having said that, Mica enabled

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Speaker 2: us to have four, possibly as many as six players

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Speaker 2: for the future. That's a good trade. When you need numbers,

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Speaker 2: I'll take the numbers every time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So suddenly it's basically responsible Jerry, biscally responsible Jerry.

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Speaker 1: And you know, really this is the Khalil Mack when

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Speaker 1: he was traded from the Raiders to the Bears sort

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Speaker 1: of trade. But he's not given us the real reel,

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Speaker 1: which is, wait, how'd you go from agreeing to a

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Speaker 1: deal to trading him? That's a big stretch. And so

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Speaker 1: there's no talk about the breakdown in the relationship with

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Speaker 1: the agent, David Mulghetto, who they clearly didn't want to

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Speaker 1: but three is the reason. They probably just want to

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Speaker 1: work together. Hey, I'm not working with that guy. You

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Speaker 1: want to get a deal done with Dallas, Here's how

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Speaker 1: we're going to do it. So that wasn't asked. We

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Speaker 1: don't know. We can only assume, and the assumption is

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Speaker 1: that they have no relationship, especially now because Micah got

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Speaker 1: the deal that he wanted and he just had to

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Speaker 1: one historic franchise to another. But the more you try

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Speaker 1: and explain it, the more you know it's bull crap, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, any of us who've told a Wendy told

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Speaker 1: try and explain it, the more you go into expert

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Speaker 1: detail over everything, No, no, what really happened was the

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Speaker 1: more we know it's bull. So do I think that

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Speaker 1: what he's saying isn't true? No, I think what he's

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Speaker 1: saying in that trading Micah Parsons opens up a path

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Speaker 1: a bunch of a bunch of players. That's great, but

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Speaker 1: he's one of a handful of dynamic players that can

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Speaker 1: completely change a football game because he can be unblockable.

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Speaker 1: So you have to balance those two things out. And

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Speaker 1: we're operating as if this was some really well thought

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Speaker 1: If that's what you were going to do, great could

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Speaker 1: have done the summer. Not You know, when you get

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. Business fluctuations make running a bit manufacturing business complex,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's fascinating there where Jerry. When you

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Speaker 1: you know from Micah Parsons is going to be a cowboy.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to be a cowboy for a long time

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Speaker 1: to know. This is all the plan all along. We're

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Speaker 1: there would be. So he's smart enough to know to

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Speaker 1: all this attention only helps the attention on the Netflix documentary.

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Speaker 1: He's smart enough to know that if you go on

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Speaker 1: Good Morning America, they don't double back with you on

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Speaker 1: he's no dope. But he's also not being honest, not

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Speaker 1: being honest anybody else of the mindset that this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a bad game tomorrow night. And I

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Speaker 1: The product is and what we like now they've been

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Speaker 1: without Micah Parsons all preseason, so it's not like you

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Speaker 1: But no one thinks the Cowboys are going to be

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Speaker 1: great this year? Do we like? They're interesting? They went

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Speaker 1: out and got George Pickens, talented guy, but he's got

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Speaker 1: You gotta be able run the football, not turn over.

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Speaker 1: like if they get to the playoffs. DAK has been

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Speaker 3: I think that it's tough, even though recent history has

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Speaker 3: that season opening contest. But I just think that there's

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Speaker 3: so much juice for the opener for the defending Super

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Speaker 3: So I don't think the bottom is going to fall

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Speaker 6: Charles Barkley was on with Bill Simmons, a Ringer podcast,

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Speaker 6: and they had this exchange about the NBA.

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Speaker 7: I putting games where do I go, Well, well, like casino,

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Speaker 5: They don't give it about the fans.

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Speaker 7: They're like, y'all, if y'all find the game, fine, just

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Speaker 6: think he's really I think he's he's right about one

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Speaker 6: NBA every single decision they have made from either a

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Speaker 1: The great E O'Connor joins us. He's a calumnist for

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Speaker 1: Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great. Authored it

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Speaker 1: people they try and do these personal interest stories and

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Speaker 1: tell thics. What's one that's in the book that people don't.

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Speaker 8: Know well The depth of his depression that he suffered

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Speaker 8: as a student at s Eaton Hall. He gets through

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Speaker 8: some pretty dark places. I'm not sure the average fan

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Speaker 8: is necessarily fully aware of that, and I think in

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Speaker 8: the book bringing out his humanity was important to me.

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Speaker 8: And there was an excerpt today on the athletics website

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Speaker 8: about Dan really struggling after this past season, really human

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Speaker 8: thoughts about should I resign three decades straight of high

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Speaker 8: intensity coaching without a break, without a single break, and

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Speaker 8: after a very challenging and difficult season against measured against

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Speaker 8: their standard of winning national championships, and the criticism he

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Speaker 8: took left him very vulnerable and thinking about walking away.

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Speaker 8: Do I need to resign as the head coach of

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Speaker 8: the Yukon Huskies. And he was very candid with me

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Speaker 8: about that human struggle he felt, and the price you

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Speaker 8: pay to compete at the highest levels of college sports today,

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Speaker 8: and also the changing nature of the game where now

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Speaker 8: recruiting is all about how much can you pay a kid?

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Speaker 8: And that's not the way he was raised in the business.

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Speaker 8: Recruiting is about relationships, or at least they used to be,

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Speaker 8: and also having a great program that would attract people.

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Speaker 8: And really, now it comes down and how much are

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Speaker 8: you going to pay me? And I know I never

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Speaker 8: thought it would get to that point in college sports.

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Speaker 8: I'm sixty one years old, and if you told me

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Speaker 8: that forty years ago this would be the case, I

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Speaker 8: never would have believed it. And I think he's a

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Speaker 8: similar mindset. But all that sort of put together in

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Speaker 8: a cauldron of bubbling emotion left him in a place

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Speaker 8: where he thought about walking away. Now, he didn't leave

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Speaker 8: Yukon the previous summer, despite being offered seventy million dollars

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Speaker 8: to coach the most glamorous franchise in the NBA, the Lakers,

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Speaker 8: And this time he didn't walk away either. I guess

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Speaker 8: the author of Never Stop should not stop, and he didn't.

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Speaker 8: But I think that that will surprise the reader is

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Speaker 8: just how emotionally cooked he was at the end of

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Speaker 8: last season, how he was sitting there just wondering if

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Speaker 8: he should even continue as a college coach. He ultimately

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Speaker 8: decided to come back, and they have a really good roster,

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Speaker 8: a better roster than they had last year. But I

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Speaker 8: think that'll be surprising the most readers.

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Speaker 1: And did I read write that he nearly left just

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Speaker 1: to be an analyst at Fox Sports.

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Speaker 8: He had some conversations with he told me a TV

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Speaker 8: executive Andrew marsh and reported today it was Fox. Now

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Speaker 8: it makes sense his former agent, Jordan Design is a

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Speaker 8: Fox executive. So yeah, I think that that was something

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Speaker 8: he thought he could do for one year, basically, take

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Speaker 8: a gap year, do some TV and then recharge and

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Speaker 8: come back. Now he'd have to come back somewhere else

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Speaker 8: in college basketball or the NBA. I do think, and

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Speaker 8: this is really more my opinion, I think he will

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Speaker 8: coach in the NBA before he retires. I do think

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Speaker 8: that he wants to scratch that itch, if you will

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Speaker 8: take that shot. At some point. I think he wants

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Speaker 8: to win another national championship or two at Yukon. So

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Speaker 8: I think he'll be at Yukon for a number of

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Speaker 8: years before he possibly makes that move. And again, this

492
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Speaker 8: is really more my opinion. But if you told me

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Speaker 8: he was head coach of the New York Micks seven

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Speaker 8: years from now, I would not be surprised.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 1: Being said, there are very few coaches who are as animated,

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Speaker 1: maybe any that as animated as he is in the pros.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the adjustment he'll have to

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Speaker 1: make to coach in the NBA in terms of his approach.

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Speaker 8: It's a great question, Doug, And he does believe like

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Speaker 8: his father now. I was surprised when he told me

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Speaker 8: this that his father, as he got older, mellowed out

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Speaker 8: a little bit and got a little kinder and gentler

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Speaker 8: and maybe a little more user friendly or player friendly.

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Speaker 8: I was surprised that he made that observation, and he

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Speaker 8: suspects the same thing will happen to him now. It's

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Speaker 8: hard to believe looking at Dan Hurley today that you

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Speaker 8: could see him calming down, for lack of a better expression,

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Speaker 8: as he gets into his mid to late fifties. But

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Speaker 8: he believes that will happen and make him then more

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Speaker 8: compatible with what the NBA is, as we all know,

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Speaker 8: it's a players league, and so listen. He seriously considered

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Speaker 8: the Lakers, and he did believe he could coach Lebron

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Speaker 8: James games. And I said to him later, you know,

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Speaker 8: if you knew Luca was going to be traded there,

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Speaker 8: would you have taken that job? And he said, no,

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Speaker 8: I would have made the same decision because I'm not

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Speaker 8: really ready to coach in the NBA yet, and I

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Speaker 8: think I do need to change a little bit. And

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Speaker 8: along the lines of what he said, his father went

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Speaker 8: through that change. So I again the way I look

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Speaker 8: at it, the way I look at his career after

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Speaker 8: spending a lot of time with him last season, I

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Speaker 8: do believe that he will take on that challenge as

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Speaker 8: the last challenge of a great career. To me, he's

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Speaker 8: already a Hall of Famer as a college coach, but

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Speaker 8: to take that last step and prove he can do

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Speaker 8: it at the highest level. I do think that's something

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Speaker 8: that intrigues him down the road in something that he

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Speaker 8: ultimately will do.

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Speaker 1: What's the dynamics of the family, Like, you know, Bobby

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Speaker 1: was always the star growing up. Now Bobby has had

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Speaker 1: a successful but kind of up and down coaching career,

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Speaker 1: whereas Danny we mentioned for how he is used as

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Speaker 1: a player, the slow and steady climb and now of

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Speaker 1: the champion coach. Of course, the dad is the legend.

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Speaker 1: What's the dynamics of that family like now?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think everyone is. Everyone gets along and supports

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Speaker 8: each other. And obviously their father's now retired, but he's

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Speaker 8: arguably the greatest high school boys basketball coach ever in

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Speaker 8: this country. And Morgan Wooton would be in that conversation

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Speaker 8: as well. I think that it's interesting, right the dynamic

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Speaker 8: has flipped where and he was the other player and

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Speaker 8: now Bobby is sort of the other coach. But Bobby

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Speaker 8: has a very, very challenging job, and he has done

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Speaker 8: a good job at Arizona State, but that is a

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Speaker 8: tough job. The conference are in now and it's not

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Speaker 8: really a basketball school. I actually lived on that campus

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Speaker 8: right next to the arena back in nineteen eighty six

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Speaker 8: eighty seven out of college. And so I know a

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Speaker 8: little bit about Arizona State and its history, and it's

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Speaker 8: just not a basketball school. So I do think Bobby

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Speaker 8: has done a good job there and will continue to

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Speaker 8: do so. But Dan, you know, he's shown up at Yukon.

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Speaker 8: That's not easy either because the standard there was national championships.

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Speaker 8: Jim Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie won one, and it's

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Speaker 8: amazing that story on the women's side and the men's side.

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Speaker 8: What a school in stores Connecticut has done in college

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Speaker 8: basketball women's and men's divisions is unbelievable, and when you

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Speaker 8: look at where it's located. So Dan, when he arrived

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Speaker 8: at Yukon, he had to win national championships and he's

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Speaker 8: done that. He's done an incredible job measuring up to

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Speaker 8: that expectation. And I do think he'll win another one

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Speaker 8: or two, certainly before he ever leaves that school. And

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Speaker 8: it might be this year. The motto last year was dynasty.

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Speaker 8: You could have that same motto this year if they win.

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Speaker 8: If they win three out of four, that's certainly a dynasty.

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Speaker 8: Last year a disappointment, but hey, he almost beat the

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Speaker 8: ultimate national champion in Florida in the second round the

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Speaker 8: NCAA Tournament. He was a testament to Dan's coaching ability

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Speaker 8: with that roster. I thought Dan the coach really outperformed

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Speaker 8: that Dan the GM last year and actually did a

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Speaker 8: very good job with what he had to work with,

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Speaker 8: and he almost picked off Florida in the second round,

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Speaker 8: and that shouldn't be forgotten.

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Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor, you got to check out this new book.

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Speaker 1: It's outstanding as thanking. Anything he writes is one. Read

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Speaker 1: his work in the athletic follow him on social media

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Speaker 1: and pick up Never Stop Life Leadership What it Takes

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Speaker 1: to Be Great spailable later this month. You can pre

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Speaker 1: order it now. He co authored it with two time

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Speaker 1: National Championship head coach Dan Hurley. Ian, you're the best man.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk in soon. Thanks for being our.

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Speaker 8: Guests, Hey, Doug, thanks so much and best of luck

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Speaker 8: in Green Bay this year.

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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, that was the call. The Yankees have won one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 1: What's giving it?

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Speaker 3: Doug?

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Speaker 5: The game today is for better or worse?

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Speaker 3: All right, Doug? For better or worse? Week one Football?

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Speaker 3: The matchup here where you tell us which one is

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Speaker 3: better or worse than the other. Thursday Night NFL Action

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Speaker 3: versus Friday Night NFL Action.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Friday Night's better Chiefs charges plus I mean the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys without Cowboys. Everybody likes, enjoys watch them lose, but

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Speaker 1: sure don't have Micah Parsons. Feels like a bit of

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Speaker 1: a mismatch.

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Speaker 3: Neutral stadium in Brazil, toss the home field advantage. You

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Speaker 3: don't want to go to Philadelphia? All right? Moving along?

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Speaker 3: For better or worse? Week one of the college football

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Speaker 3: season versus Week one of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: Hard call. I'm gonna go Week one of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: You know you have ears with the NFL. Is smart, right,

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Speaker 1: you have Chiefs Chargers. That's a divisional game. You got

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Eagles divisional games, so you have some rivalries there.

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Speaker 1: You know you go Cincinnati Cleveland again, divisional matchup. I

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Speaker 1: like that one. Giants and Commanders again, traditional matchup, Packers, Lions,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and Buffalo. Amazing, even Houston the Rams. It's great

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Speaker 1: slate of games. Week one NFL by a mile over

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Speaker 1: Week one of the college football.

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Speaker 3: For better or worse, we're talking red zone here with

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Speaker 3: commercials versus without commercials. Scott Hansen revealing today out that

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Speaker 3: the new red zone will have commercials.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that sucks.

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Speaker 3: So with commercials is actually worse.

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Speaker 1: Worse with commercials is worse than.

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Speaker 3: All right, something new we'll see in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 3: Rivalry uniforms, Doug for better or worse? NFL rivalry uniforms

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Speaker 3: versus NBA Cup courts. You know those wacky NBA Cup

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Speaker 3: courts that we see these wacky NFL rivalry uniforms. What's

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Speaker 3: better or worse?

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Speaker 1: I think the wacky courts are worse. They're distracting. We

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Speaker 1: don't make sense. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: For better or worse? Dog AFC West versus NFC North.

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Speaker 1: This year, Yes, as West by a good amount, good amount.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 3: Finally for better or worse? Dog US Open Tennis versus

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Speaker 3: US Open golf.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be that guy. US Open Tennis is the best,

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Speaker 1: amazing when it ends being in football season is the

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Speaker 1: only kind of questionable part. But it's always in New York,

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Speaker 1: so you have New York stuff, and then the night

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Speaker 1: matches are incredible. And oh yeah, by the way, now

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Speaker 1: that the Arthur ash Centator has the dome, it's never

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Speaker 1: rained out, whether it's never an issue. US Open Tennis.

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Speaker 1: That's it for better or worse? Coming up next to

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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show, Little Midway for you. That's next

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Speaker 1: on the DG show