Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast Everybody, Scott Patterson, I
Speaker 1: am all in podcast, I Heart Radio, I want to
Speaker 1: Live in Productions. I am joined by my in Trepid crew,
Speaker 1: Tara sud Danielle Romo, Amy Sugarman, and we are all
Speaker 1: sporting some gear merch. We got some merch. What kind
Speaker 1: of merchant are we sporting over here? Guys? Look at that, Luke.
Speaker 1: You got Luke's pillow, Danielle, and you've got a nice
Speaker 1: powder blue Yeah. And look at the back, the spiritual
Speaker 1: look at that, Look at that, Look at that? What
Speaker 1: do you what do you got? Amy? What do you
Speaker 1: get there? How do you not see that? I see
Speaker 1: bottles of alcohol on look down. Oh, those there's a shampoo.
Speaker 1: Those are perfume bottles that look like alcohol. Correct. But
Speaker 1: look and we've got the duel Luke's pillows over there.
Speaker 1: They really make the room pop. Yeah, the pillow is nice,
Speaker 1: you know, like designer. All right, Danielle, time to synopsize
Speaker 1: is only Danielle Romo can synopsize? Alright? This is season four,
Speaker 1: episode nineteen after Boom air date April two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: After Jason finds out Richard is ousting him of the business.
Speaker 1: He makes a decision that jeopardizes his relationship with Laura Lai. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Emily and Richard are having marriage troubles because of Richard's decision.
Speaker 1: Rory is questioning her work at Yale, and here's rumors
Speaker 1: about Professor Fleming. How shuk are you guys? This season
Speaker 1: is good. It is very good. Gauging a lot of
Speaker 1: people these are their favorite four episodes or starting a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I'm right, I'm right with him,
Speaker 1: I'm right with them. They're my favorite too. I love
Speaker 1: this one too. I really love this one. And I
Speaker 1: will say, and I'm not going to tell you where
Speaker 1: it is because I don't want to start jumping around
Speaker 1: right off the bat, but I will say I have
Speaker 1: never seen the Laureli gilmore so appealing in a particular
Speaker 1: scene which for me defines the show. And we'll get
Speaker 1: to it. I just want to say I was completely
Speaker 1: blown away by this one little scene is pivotal scene,
Speaker 1: but one little scene, which I mean, it just knocked
Speaker 1: me out. You'll tell us when we get to it. Well,
Speaker 1: when we get to it. Yeah, yeah, but what do
Speaker 1: you guys think. What do you guys think of this episode?
Speaker 1: It was great. I loved it. I mean I love it,
Speaker 1: even though I'm like very stressed about Richard and Emily. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I love the episode. Excellent. Yeah, no, no question.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of hiccups here and there. I
Speaker 1: think technically speaking with the a d R or the looping. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was the stress you tell us when I didn't
Speaker 1: notice it, But but I would. I occasionally do notice
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, but this one didn't. It wasn't glaring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were. There was a scene outdoors in the beginning
Speaker 1: with the Rory and Lorelai where it was a lot
Speaker 1: of a d R and it really kind of took
Speaker 1: me out of the scene. I don't know that fans
Speaker 1: noticed it so much. Um. I can always tell because
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I know when if I think,
Speaker 1: if it's atrocious, we notice it. Otherwise it's like, do
Speaker 1: they do a d R if like they the audio
Speaker 1: didn't pick up or is it like if the script
Speaker 1: like what do they use it for? Well, they do
Speaker 1: it just in case, sou you know, if the sound
Speaker 1: department says, listen, I think we need to loop these
Speaker 1: lines in these lines, and the editor agrees because of
Speaker 1: ambient noise that came in a lawn mowl or a plane.
Speaker 1: So they're not like changing the script there were got it? Interesting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then you have to go in there and you
Speaker 1: have to match your mouth movements to the words that
Speaker 1: you're saying in the microphone. You've got a headset on
Speaker 1: and you're watching it and you've got the lines in
Speaker 1: front of you, and it's it's it's it's actually pretty
Speaker 1: difficult to master. But you have to watch it, but
Speaker 1: you also have to reenact it and and do the emotion.
Speaker 1: I'm doing that now on my new show, and it's
Speaker 1: such an emotional show. Are you doing R now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And it's better to do it while you're on set
Speaker 1: on location because you're sort of still in the character
Speaker 1: and it's easy to contract. Yeah. Now I'm like months
Speaker 1: away from it and I have to go back in
Speaker 1: there and do these emotional things, and it's a it's
Speaker 1: a lot harder to do. Yeah, it's a lot harder
Speaker 1: to do. Interesting, very yeah, So but we did. We
Speaker 1: did a fair amount on Gilmore, but they didn't use
Speaker 1: a lot of it. They did it just in case
Speaker 1: they knew as a safety more for outdoor scenes rather
Speaker 1: than like on a set. Absolutely, what about when you
Speaker 1: said I wasn't running, I was walking. I wasn't yelling.
Speaker 1: I was talking because I was outdoor and there was
Speaker 1: a lot. No, I don't think those were I don't
Speaker 1: think those were looped lines. Those were Luke lines that
Speaker 1: were not looped. They looked legit, and I think they Luke.
Speaker 1: I thought we went. I love this episode because it's
Speaker 1: like right away out the gate into it, Luke's getting divorced,
Speaker 1: we're at the mailboxes, etcetera. Yeah, I enjoyed that scene.
Speaker 1: That was That was great Kirk stuff, great Luke and
Speaker 1: Laurel stuff. Everybody stuff was stamps. The stamps, Laurela you
Speaker 1: go first. I want to. I want to loose the
Speaker 1: old ball stamps. Oh my god, I know, right do
Speaker 1: you guys? You buy your stamps? Like I don't just
Speaker 1: take any old stamp. No, they have to be cute.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to, like yeah, and sometimes I
Speaker 1: SeeMe it like Halloween, it's more spooky Christmas. Don't purchase stamps,
Speaker 1: my wife. Oh my god. There's a comedian that does
Speaker 1: a whole bit about stamps, like how people don't only
Speaker 1: like grandmas know how much stamps are. He's like, does
Speaker 1: it's Nate bar Gatsy. He does a whole bit. You
Speaker 1: guys an looking at He's like, what are they like
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars of stamp? I don't know, like because
Speaker 1: like how often are you mailing crap? Once in a while?
Speaker 1: I'm also like, I hope this is enough. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: keep raising it, so your stamps are like, you know,
Speaker 1: don't useless. They're useless anymore. And you just don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't want to go to the post office. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick on three extra time. Wait. So, Luke,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about getting divorced? I mean, Scott,
Speaker 1: thanks Amy. That happens to me quite a bit. Sometimes
Speaker 1: people can't tell one from the other. You know me
Speaker 1: better as Luke. You've spent more time with Luke than
Speaker 1: you have with me in all the years I've known you,
Speaker 1: I've only done that twice, and in the all the
Speaker 1: and we've done the show for almost two years. It's
Speaker 1: getting there and I've done that. That's a second time.
Speaker 1: We're approaching. We're approaching two d episodes, so basically once
Speaker 1: a year Amy. You know in a hundred episodes, Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers gave us a big party and a big cake.
Speaker 1: What did we give you? Hundred? A whole lot more
Speaker 1: than that, smile Um Scott. We hit two hundred last week. No,
Speaker 1: it's already two hundred. Yeah, as guys our cake, Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, it was beautiful, game loved. We're at two hundred.
Speaker 1: We need to do is the two hundred and first episode?
Speaker 1: Oh man, a hand for all of you, yeah and
Speaker 1: everyone listening. Thank you for all your comments. I'll never
Speaker 1: forget the sniffle comment. I'll never forget it. I did
Speaker 1: get a couple of positives this week. Now I've got
Speaker 1: Now I have a new new uh couple of paragraphs
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my tombstone. He died with five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars less than he should have had, and he
Speaker 1: sniffed too many times. He slipped. He sniffled twenty times
Speaker 1: more than he should have had. That's good without nothing.
Speaker 1: So absolutely it was a very seasonal episode. It was
Speaker 1: a seasonal cold. Okay, so excuse me for fighting off nasty.
Speaker 1: I'm done with Micole because I would have given her
Speaker 1: more chances, but she cheated on you with the suck guy.
Speaker 1: It's like, but do we really know that? Is it?
Speaker 1: I think I think right. I think you saw it
Speaker 1: and it was painful. Yeah, it could be somebody. Some
Speaker 1: there was a domestic dispute out in front of her
Speaker 1: condo and somebody, No, somebody threw a pair of socks
Speaker 1: through a window in a rage and then and then
Speaker 1: she rolled them up perfectly in her drawer. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: she's retentive. Maybe she's the guy. Luke's the guy. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's a guy who was helping fix the stove. A
Speaker 1: stove alright, because Luke would have done that, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she cheated on you. Yeah, sorry, Sorry, happens to the
Speaker 1: best of us. Yeah, but that's here's the thing. It
Speaker 1: was easier to like, I'm not that heartbroken for the
Speaker 1: divorce because I already was heartbroken on the cheating, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, bye, Nicole By you were not
Speaker 1: heartbroken on the cheating. You were thrilled, and Nicole, We're
Speaker 1: not going to happen me. But I felt like Luke.
Speaker 1: I was a little sad for Luke. Yeah, It's like
Speaker 1: I felt a little bad for him. But I don't
Speaker 1: think Luke is sad about it either, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I agree with Scott, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I agree with Danielle that I think Luke was a
Speaker 1: little maybe but her that she cheated and that she
Speaker 1: didn't do it the right way. But I don't think
Speaker 1: he wanted to be like that. That's humiliating, Yeah, no
Speaker 1: matter if you're in love with a person or not.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so disrespectful. Yeah. But I think
Speaker 1: he's really just done and he's over written. He's processed
Speaker 1: it in his lukey way, and he's moved on and
Speaker 1: he just wants it done. And it's like you didn't
Speaker 1: want to make a big old stink thing and now
Speaker 1: lower lies you go for. Although you guys will start
Speaker 1: laughing when you're all talking, because yes I have some balls.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wrote that down as my favorite line.
Speaker 1: Kirk is so good. And then they had a ten
Speaker 1: minute conversation about Bewitched. We must spend time on pop
Speaker 1: culture with Bewitched, the speaking of which a devastating loss yesterday,
Speaker 1: Rack hell Welshan, you rest in peace. We want to
Speaker 1: go back and watch some of those movies my friends
Speaker 1: and I growing up. I can't tell you how many
Speaker 1: times did you love her? Oh? God, everybody did? Everybody
Speaker 1: did find Well, I can't decide if we should call
Speaker 1: this episode this podcast episode. It wasn't running, I was walking,
Speaker 1: It wasn't yelling. I was talking or trying to get
Speaker 1: divorced here, trying to get the door. That was a
Speaker 1: great like start to the whole thing, right, but but
Speaker 1: it so wasn't about Luke this episode. So there's probably
Speaker 1: a better name for it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I know I need to break it
Speaker 1: to you, but second time were reminding you, Yeah, title everything.
Speaker 1: This is so funny, guys, because he doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 1: think about this. Every episode of the podcast is titled
Speaker 1: with a line that you deliver from that episode, except
Speaker 1: for the couple of random episodes. Really yeah, the same
Speaker 1: reaction last time. Whose idea was that since the very beginning.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we didn't screw it up on like the very
Speaker 1: first episode, but we thought about yeah, now you've done
Speaker 1: thought of it right from the start. Well, I like
Speaker 1: the divorce line was hysterically funny. Okay, well do you
Speaker 1: trying to get divorced here? But the funny thing is
Speaker 1: there is that like random episode You're not in and
Speaker 1: I think we titled it Luke is not in this
Speaker 1: open anyway. Okay, So that scene was great. It was great.
Speaker 1: So then we go into the diner and Laurel lies
Speaker 1: in her suit and you're fixing the toaster and oh
Speaker 1: you still the thumbing. That was funny. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they're kind of going back and forth. Right, there's a
Speaker 1: little bit more. There's some good Luke Laurel lie in
Speaker 1: this yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Okay, So then this
Speaker 1: is when Jason calls and she's got the two cell
Speaker 1: phones and he feeds her the pastry. Oh god, thank
Speaker 1: you for bringing that up. That was so adorable and
Speaker 1: intimate without even trying like it was like such a
Speaker 1: nice gesture. But you're like, oh, it was really sweet.
Speaker 1: That's relationshippy. That's like they're they're in the relationship, they
Speaker 1: just don't know it yet. Yeah. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: the action is worth more than the words in that scene. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the way you just described that everybody take a
Speaker 1: minute is exactly accurate. So relationshippy and they're in a relationship,
Speaker 1: they just don't know it yet, And I yes, yes,
Speaker 1: better myself. So what do we think about poor Jason.
Speaker 1: My gosh, man, man, he got he got torn a
Speaker 1: new one, didn't he old Jason? He got road hard
Speaker 1: and put. I was going to say, he still doesn't
Speaker 1: know what's going on here, work on his game. Also,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like I like a Rory left her
Speaker 1: phone and it's like, oh, pick up my cell phone
Speaker 1: when I see you, Like these days, I'd be like
Speaker 1: running to pick up my phone wherever I leave it.
Speaker 1: I think back then, though, it wasn't as stressful because
Speaker 1: you really you didn't have all your numbers, It didn't
Speaker 1: have your email, didn't have your tex. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just like you had to like, what's the the t Tina?
Speaker 1: Is it T nine? How did you say it? Like?
Speaker 1: What is it? The way you at text and you
Speaker 1: have to click the number like three times to get
Speaker 1: the letter? Yeah? Take ten? That I never heard of
Speaker 1: that Tina word e'sn just saying like word like correct?
Speaker 1: They think thanks? I think so, But yeah, T nine
Speaker 1: is what it was called. When you're like I need
Speaker 1: to like get the letter C and you click number
Speaker 1: three like or number one like three times to get there.
Speaker 1: Because back in the day, if you lost your phone,
Speaker 1: there's nothing in it I mean, you have to pay
Speaker 1: for a new phone, but you weren't like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: and there was nothing worse when you had like a
Speaker 1: C and A together and you had to wait for
Speaker 1: it to stop blinking. Yeah a oh my god, I
Speaker 1: mean remember that, Oh my gosh. But yeah, I just
Speaker 1: thought it was funny because I was like, you can
Speaker 1: just tell the time of this show when you're just
Speaker 1: like if I love my phone somewhere and now, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like i'll see you in a week, I'll
Speaker 1: pick it up. Then it's like a national security is
Speaker 1: at that turn off turn off, like doing nothing where
Speaker 1: you're like using to find my phone, like, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the code to self destruct my phone? Once I lost
Speaker 1: my phone and I was literally calling like is there
Speaker 1: any way to blow this thing up? Right? Soon? Soon
Speaker 1: Apple is going to come out with a phone drone,
Speaker 1: or if you lose it, it turns into a drone
Speaker 1: and it flies home to you. The phone drone up
Speaker 1: even has missiles so you can off some of your neighbors.
Speaker 1: And at the time I did not have a pass code.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just didn't and I love
Speaker 1: my phone and like I'm not being braggy, but it
Speaker 1: had so many celebrities phone numbers in it just because
Speaker 1: of my job. I'm not friends with them, it's just
Speaker 1: because my job. That I was literally like, you're like,
Speaker 1: whoever picks that up hit the jackpot. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're gonna think this is like so fake.
Speaker 1: But anyway, crazily a day later, it was still where
Speaker 1: I left it, in a hotel room, and somebody had
Speaker 1: stayed in the hotel room the night. It's my phone
Speaker 1: still there, still there anyway, no one cares. So back
Speaker 1: to so back to the whole thing. Here's my like
Speaker 1: television question. It really looked like Digger was driving. So
Speaker 1: does that mean he was driving or was he on
Speaker 1: one of those things where someone's driving him. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called a process because it was that was good driving.
Speaker 1: And it had to be Griffith Park, that like off
Speaker 1: the five Freeway, that golf course, right, I think that
Speaker 1: was it. Yeah, it's always near the studio. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I thought. I love like looking for the locations. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good note when whenever they take us on a driving
Speaker 1: trailer rig whatever process shot, it would be very it
Speaker 1: would just be the forest lawn, right, there. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: out there, So then she hangs up with Jason, She's
Speaker 1: not going to Rory. And I did think that it
Speaker 1: was very funny, like, you know, we're not the Carrington's,
Speaker 1: which was like that we talk about It was just
Speaker 1: all very funny, but also like it's messy. This is messy. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know you introduced that element of the deception and
Speaker 1: now the business intrigue and it's just business and this
Speaker 1: is the move I'm making and yeah, I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I don't blame her. I don't blame Richard for I
Speaker 1: do the same thing. That's what You protect your nest egg,
Speaker 1: you protect your pension, you protect your family, you protect
Speaker 1: your home. There's a very interesting theory in the comments,
Speaker 1: um and then I kind of went into a Reddit
Speaker 1: threat I think maybe on it where some people felt
Speaker 1: that Richard and Floyd were in cahoots essentially from the
Speaker 1: time of planning the dinner, like that they were already
Speaker 1: in cahoots. But my flag on that play is then
Speaker 1: Richard wouldn't have been so emotional to Emily like or
Speaker 1: Loria lie forget who he was talking to, like they
Speaker 1: said they were going to take everything we have. I
Speaker 1: think it was to lor Lie. So that was my
Speaker 1: only thing on that theory, because there's some like theories,
Speaker 1: fan theories on the whole Floyd Richard Digger Sich. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was premeditated either. I feel like
Speaker 1: Emily would have known if it was, and she obviously
Speaker 1: is having a very external reaction to the point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that Richard made the game day decision
Speaker 1: after Floyd presented with the lawsuit and he was like
Speaker 1: f this, no, and went back and said, I'm going
Speaker 1: to throw a Digger under the bus because I got
Speaker 1: to save my nest egg. And he had the perfect
Speaker 1: excuse to do it. There was deception and then the
Speaker 1: lunch with thee so anyway, he had his out dramatic Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So then we get to go back to Lane's apartment,
Speaker 1: which I quite enjoy. Yeah, it's nice sort of something there.
Speaker 1: It's nice, but there's not much there. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I agree, right like it's I like it, but then
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we get just like more, a little more.
Speaker 1: It's like without Emily Corona in the scene raging away,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not as effective for me interesting. It's
Speaker 1: like she's one of the most powerful dynamic presence on
Speaker 1: that show, and just showing her in the background doing
Speaker 1: little stuff here and there just isn't enough. How do
Speaker 1: you like Zach? How do you guys feel about Zach?
Speaker 1: The character of Zach like the roommates h I think
Speaker 1: it's I mean, without giving anything away, I think that
Speaker 1: because it was just so like it felt like a
Speaker 1: bland scene. I think it is setting up the future
Speaker 1: of of what we see later. So that's why I
Speaker 1: didn't think too much of it. As someone who knows
Speaker 1: what's coming. I was just like, this is a setup
Speaker 1: for the future for me. Sebastian box, yeah is the
Speaker 1: best part. I mean, give me Sebastian bok and a
Speaker 1: velvet shirt, unbuttoned, short sleeve, you know, just there you go,
Speaker 1: got the baby, there you go. I feel like the
Speaker 1: band is just still so incomplete without Dave Kowski, like
Speaker 1: like I'm still onto him, like he is a national treasure,
Speaker 1: and he likes to point it's just a cover of
Speaker 1: People magazine. He's with me. There's there's just only something missing.
Speaker 1: When I see the band, I'm just like, where Steve
Speaker 1: I needed him? You're right, there is there is a
Speaker 1: giant hole there. Yeah. Without Sebastian Bach I would not
Speaker 1: he definitely, Yeah, he completes it. Yeah, he's I missed.
Speaker 1: I miss Adam Brodie Tube. Yeah. Sebastian has a big personality,
Speaker 1: big presence. You know, he's you know, he's never going
Speaker 1: to get accused of being Laurence Olivia, but he knows
Speaker 1: he's great. But he's doing his thing and he's being himself,
Speaker 1: which is really entertaining and fun. Right, because that's that's
Speaker 1: the fast quick shout out to Adam Brody. Did anybody
Speaker 1: watch that show that Adam Brodie is in with the
Speaker 1: something about Fletcher? Oh god, you guys, it's really familiar.
Speaker 1: Everyone should watch it. It's very good. Except for the
Speaker 1: last episode. It has clear Danes and the guy from
Speaker 1: Social network whose name is out of my mind. Come on, um,
Speaker 1: Jesse Eisenberg. It's good. I know I'm not giving it
Speaker 1: a great plug because I can't remember the name of it,
Speaker 1: but it's so anyway, we're all gonna we're all going
Speaker 1: to watch it, yeah, because we don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Said then Lane sees you're a lot of work, a
Speaker 1: lot of work. You're a lot of work. First of all,
Speaker 1: great callback great callback. Thank you. Uh we see the
Speaker 1: the lane replacement student. You think she was just regretting
Speaker 1: like every decision she made in that moment. Yeah, me,
Speaker 1: not regret so much as she just missed her her
Speaker 1: home and the band was doing well. She just she
Speaker 1: loves her mom. Even though her mom is like tough,
Speaker 1: they do love each other. And now she's living with
Speaker 1: two guys that play video games instead of you know,
Speaker 1: and they like her band. Fantasy communal lodging situation isn't
Speaker 1: panning out the way she thought it would be. She's like,
Speaker 1: she's become the mother. I could not live with two
Speaker 1: boys at that age if I was nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: And she's so much more emotionally mature than those guys,
Speaker 1: you know that she probably just feels like, yeah, what
Speaker 1: have I done here? Am I is this going to
Speaker 1: be the next ten years of my life? I mean,
Speaker 1: what happens if we're super successful? You know, the one
Speaker 1: guy is gonna still eat beaten carrots from his mommy's pouch,
Speaker 1: and the other guy is going to be with the
Speaker 1: babes and you know, one's married with kids and and
Speaker 1: one's married with kids. She's all alone in that band
Speaker 1: basically although he fall explosion sounded sidebar uh poor. Then
Speaker 1: we go to the driving range and that was just awkward.
Speaker 1: Good swing from Jason Stuhls, good hearty golf swing. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I think Chris Agaman has spent a
Speaker 1: little time on the link on the links, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting these sort of like little I don't know
Speaker 1: what the right word is in undos, that's not the
Speaker 1: right word, but little little signposts, signposts, yeah, clue. It's
Speaker 1: like I just kind of like I did feel bad
Speaker 1: for him in this moment at the golf course because
Speaker 1: he was so out of the loop and everyone was
Speaker 1: kind of just like, you don't know what's happening. That's
Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, like when you're the last to know
Speaker 1: and everything. He's so good. Shout out to Chris. He's
Speaker 1: so good, didn't he. You just believe everything he's doing
Speaker 1: and and thinking and saying, he's he's really terrific. He
Speaker 1: really Yeah, speaking of terrific, Shell giving the tour at
Speaker 1: the end with all the little here, you know, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so good, the cookies or Suki
Speaker 1: with her broken FOOTO. I could be wrong, but was
Speaker 1: it the first time we saw the Dragonfly in logo
Speaker 1: like that, I think, so, I think on the car, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the first time we're saying that made
Speaker 1: it really hit home, you know, because I really yeah,
Speaker 1: they have a minivan, Yeah, the minivan. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: is that the first time we see the actual logo.
Speaker 1: I do have a dragonflying cup that I'll bring next week,
Speaker 1: But that's what I thought. I was like, where's my cup?
Speaker 1: Because thanks to Luke they seem to be able to
Speaker 1: have the minivan and the horses. They have the horses.
Speaker 1: What do they have their horses for? People are going
Speaker 1: to be taking their kids on the horses. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe the back right, Yeah, it's always nice to have.
Speaker 1: It is nice to see like the business up and
Speaker 1: running and like, yeah, yeah, we've we've come a long way. Baby.
Speaker 1: Right here we are the Dragonfly and looks divorced and
Speaker 1: so then we yeah. So then now the belief is
Speaker 1: going to hit the fan because now Jason knows what's
Speaker 1: up and he's figured it out that Richard's got So
Speaker 1: it's interesting that Richard's going back with Floyd but having
Speaker 1: his own boutique agency under their banner. So Richard is
Speaker 1: really hashtag winning and Jason is hosed. Richard always wins, right,
Speaker 1: even when he's losing, he's winning. Um. And the thing
Speaker 1: I liked about Jason is he even admitted, like he
Speaker 1: goes it makes sense. He very was brilliant, like this
Speaker 1: is brilliant. Yeah, and he was very sweet to Lorela.
Speaker 1: He wasn't in that, like he wasn't blaming there, like
Speaker 1: he wasn't like your dad's an Yeah he suck, your
Speaker 1: family sucks all that, Like he didn't do any of that,
Speaker 1: which is why I'm not We'll get there. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I agree with her decision, but we'll get there.
Speaker 1: But we'll get there. Yeah, I guess you and I
Speaker 1: are going to have a talk about that. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I might be able to be
Speaker 1: convinced choose your weapon now. That made me think of
Speaker 1: Miss Plumb in the library with the candlestick. I did
Speaker 1: think it was really sad when Digger literally was like,
Speaker 1: I have to move. My reputation is really like that sucks.
Speaker 1: But he didn't listen. He did it to himself, didn't
Speaker 1: He made a move against his own father, who's extremely powerless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't play the politics well at all. He took
Speaker 1: up with Richard's daughter, How could you not? Right? Didn't
Speaker 1: tell anybody. It was kind of his idea to keep
Speaker 1: wasn't it his idea to keep her secret? And she
Speaker 1: wanted to It was the other way around. It was
Speaker 1: the other way around. He wanted to tell and she
Speaker 1: wanted and she wanted to keep it a secret. And
Speaker 1: we're skipping a scene, but I think it's important to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Lorea Lie does go to Richard and
Speaker 1: she does say, like, Jason was your partner. He's losing everything.
Speaker 1: And that's when Richard sort of says, Lauraae, like I
Speaker 1: cannot lose everything. But he's right about how she came
Speaker 1: at him, right, It's like, how are you going to
Speaker 1: come at somebody in that way? And he she didn't
Speaker 1: express any concern or for his side of the story
Speaker 1: or how it was going to affect him or or
Speaker 1: or her mother Emily. Um, she just sort of she
Speaker 1: didn't open up both battles on him, but she went
Speaker 1: at him pretty pretty hard, a little disrespectfully, like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's my my world is being affected, my world not
Speaker 1: taking consideration. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying loyally is right,
Speaker 1: and I actually think it's interesting, is Emily, but just
Speaker 1: let me But that's the misdirection. That scene was planted
Speaker 1: there to surprise us on the ultimate when you and
Speaker 1: I have our knife fight. Yes. So the thing I
Speaker 1: like about Emily here is she goes to Richard because
Speaker 1: ultimately what she cares about most is Laura lion Rory.
Speaker 1: And she's really like not worried about the money. Now,
Speaker 1: she's probably not being supportive enough of Richard and the
Speaker 1: importance of his career per se, because really what she
Speaker 1: cares about is Laura lion Rory. That's all she cares Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: and Laura life finding somebody and she realizes they have
Speaker 1: a connection. Okay. So the way Richard sees it is
Speaker 1: we lose everything, the house, the pension, everything, We're destitute, Okay,
Speaker 1: to get to get sued to that level, you don't
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna end up, right, And Richard, there's
Speaker 1: only one choice he can make, and it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with lauralized relationship with Jason or Friday night
Speaker 1: dinners or you know, he his hands that are tied.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? Though, He's got to do
Speaker 1: what he's gotta do. I do understand where Richard's coming from,
Speaker 1: but I think Emily is taking it as Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: we'll have our money and you'll have your job, but
Speaker 1: we won't have lor Lie and we won't have Rory.
Speaker 1: Like this is what I've been working for the last
Speaker 1: few years to foster this relationship and now it's going
Speaker 1: to go away because you screwed over her boyfriend. Like
Speaker 1: I think she is panicking that things are going to
Speaker 1: revert back to how they work for And here's what's interesting.
Speaker 1: This is very important. I think Rory won't go away,
Speaker 1: and Richard points that out. I agree, and I agree
Speaker 1: cares about or A Lie because she I think somewhere
Speaker 1: they both know Rory's not going anywhere. But Emily does
Speaker 1: not want to lose Lora Lie again. Well, and she's like,
Speaker 1: this is really about Laura Lie. And then you think
Speaker 1: about it because like they are paying for Yale and
Speaker 1: like you know, that's where they know Rory won't go away.
Speaker 1: But I was also thinking, like it is interesting that
Speaker 1: Richard didn't have a conversation with Emily about it, and
Speaker 1: kind of just like like when was Emily going to
Speaker 1: find out if she didn't stand at the corner of
Speaker 1: the stairs to listen, you know, like, why would she
Speaker 1: have known? That should have been a conversation between husband
Speaker 1: and wife about there if it was a financial thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like they should have had that conversation. And
Speaker 1: so I think it just escalated because of the way
Speaker 1: she found out. But I do understand both sides. I
Speaker 1: just thought the and and let's point out that Sheila
Speaker 1: Lawrence wrote this episode. What a what a brilliant set
Speaker 1: up for what is to come right, all these complications,
Speaker 1: all these nuances and subtleties within these relationships. How deaf
Speaker 1: late it was handled in these episodes, because it is
Speaker 1: leading up to a really really interesting scene, which I mean,
Speaker 1: and I are going to talk about. I have a
Speaker 1: few I think where you've got two major ones. So wait,
Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's just talk about the
Speaker 1: ash Or Fleming story. There's no other there's like no
Speaker 1: other professor who's good looking at Yale. Like my whole
Speaker 1: the whole time, I was like, the oldest professor is
Speaker 1: the one all the girls are going for. I think
Speaker 1: it's because he's worldly. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: did this, but last night I was mourning the loss
Speaker 1: of Rachel Welsh and I because it's my my childhood dying.
Speaker 1: Every every day, somebody else from my child who was
Speaker 1: passing away. And this is what happens when you get
Speaker 1: a little bit older. This happens. They don't tell you this,
Speaker 1: uh that it happens, but it happens, and it's it's
Speaker 1: tough to deal with. Yeah, it's kind of rough. Um.
Speaker 1: And then was a pick. She did a movie with
Speaker 1: Michael York back in the seventies called The Three Musketeers,
Speaker 1: and he was quite something back then. I mean the
Speaker 1: long blonde hair, I mean just I mean the two
Speaker 1: of them together, they're looks so good together in in
Speaker 1: that period costumes. Um, so he was like he was
Speaker 1: a major star, Michael or he was a charming, dashing
Speaker 1: figure of the theater. And then he became a movie
Speaker 1: star for obvious reasons. So you know he still got
Speaker 1: it right as Fleming. Yeah, he's pretty cute twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: even in this Yeah, he's still got it. He's definitely charming.
Speaker 1: And I liked the confrontation he had with Rory that
Speaker 1: was so let's just let's just talk it through. Let's
Speaker 1: talk through everything as Do you think she was a
Speaker 1: little out of line? I do. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a very awkward scene. Yeah, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: that that was the only seen in the whole uh
Speaker 1: four episodes that I thought, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that was weird. I feel like you just
Speaker 1: wouldn't approach a professor that way, even if he was
Speaker 1: dating your roommate. It just seemed inappropriate. The fact that
Speaker 1: this is like that actually just came out of your
Speaker 1: mouth like that is just crazy, like he is dating
Speaker 1: her roommate. But I think that's why she gets so
Speaker 1: pissed and so like um over analytical on everything in
Speaker 1: his class. But but also he's friends with Richard, so
Speaker 1: she could have just DoD this easily assumed valid because valid.
Speaker 1: But but the the impetus was was that Doyle let
Speaker 1: her know that Escher has you know, a babe of
Speaker 1: the Year of the semester or whatever. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think it was the attempt to show
Speaker 1: Rory being loyal to crazy Town. Yeah, so yeah, so,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't. I don't know that it
Speaker 1: worked out the way we wanted it to work out,
Speaker 1: But they got it in right, like Rory did the
Speaker 1: noble thing, and like, I'm gonna call my great grading
Speaker 1: system into question, and she's gonna get a couple of
Speaker 1: shots in. And I mean, but that last line, you know,
Speaker 1: I liked the redhead or whatever. It was like it
Speaker 1: was a little little much. I thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be like, final, I'll give you an F Like
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to drop the grade right there.
Speaker 1: I can't do that. My question is, but I think
Speaker 1: he understood at the end of that scene that she
Speaker 1: knew about the relationship. She didn't approve, she didn't approve
Speaker 1: of him, and I don't, but don't hurt my friend.
Speaker 1: He won, he won. He like he definitely won. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he like he's like, this is why you got the
Speaker 1: A you did X y Z. Like it was he
Speaker 1: had the point, he had the points. I don't know
Speaker 1: that he might dropped her. I think he closed. I
Speaker 1: thought he closed. He slammed his case down at a
Speaker 1: frustration like for that that was a moment that he
Speaker 1: had been outed by Rory, like you're a dirty old man,
Speaker 1: leave these girls alone. Yes he was. I disagree. He
Speaker 1: was like, have you quite finished? Like he's judging him,
Speaker 1: But why shouldn't she he's praying on his students. I
Speaker 1: don't think he sees it that way. That's kind of vile.
Speaker 1: He's technically not doing anything wrong, right Paris, Paris is
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. He's not she's not a student in
Speaker 1: his class. He's a British Maximadia. He's a British Maximadina.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right, but like, he's technically not
Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. It's creepy, gross, but it's not right.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the decision. I didn't realize that she's
Speaker 1: not his student. So yeah, that's actually good. No, because
Speaker 1: she always comes into the class because Rory's there. You're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, doesn't make it right. Yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's right. Any schools must have like morality clauses where
Speaker 1: you don't do this and it would be definitely frowned upon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like, but it's not Rory's place to go
Speaker 1: in and be kind of self righteous about it. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, things were different in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: This happened all the time, things were looser. In nine eight,
Speaker 1: these things happened all the time. Between students and teachers. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just in two thousand it was still going on.
Speaker 1: I think it's less appropriate these days, right, you know,
Speaker 1: it's everything's sort of tightening up in society. Yeah, that's correct, right,
Speaker 1: even more cringe, so it's more permissive. I mean as
Speaker 1: we look back. Um, my question is is that dedication
Speaker 1: for Paris? What does everybody think that booked out? I
Speaker 1: think that's too whichever, it's the only thing he could
Speaker 1: have done. What is he supposed to put some heartfelt
Speaker 1: thing in there? And don't think that gets thrown in
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. I think she thinks it was to her.
Speaker 1: I don't know, she definitely did. She says it's about
Speaker 1: me and my things, like, no, it is a girl.
Speaker 1: They don't know who it's about. But I bet it's
Speaker 1: not about only a slide guy like Asher would leave
Speaker 1: it anonymous. So whichever lady he's you know, with at
Speaker 1: the time her. Now the next question, did Rory deserve
Speaker 1: the A? Yes, I mean it's not like she did
Speaker 1: the work. Yeah, she did PhD level work connecting dogs. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and I thought, okay, so so
Speaker 1: yes or no? Did she overstep going to Asher and
Speaker 1: being so pointing. I think yes. And also she got
Speaker 1: an a It's like what were you what were you
Speaker 1: going to get out of that? Like you wanted to
Speaker 1: get to be you know, like she's going with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see why she's annoyed with him because he's
Speaker 1: I don't know, just yeah, but like not to like
Speaker 1: challenge a grade that he gave her. Yeah, Like she
Speaker 1: went out of her way, she went out of her
Speaker 1: way to have that conversation. Yeah. And I think as
Speaker 1: a teacher, you gotta be a little bit more respectful,
Speaker 1: even if the guy's a creep. Yeah. Do we think
Speaker 1: he's a creep A little creepy. He's a little a
Speaker 1: little creepy, you know, on the creep scale, I would
Speaker 1: say seven seven point eight five. He's just a guy
Speaker 1: who likes, you know, he likes what he likes. He
Speaker 1: likes what he likes, you know. Yeah. Do you think
Speaker 1: Richard knows like that he dates younger women. He probably
Speaker 1: thinks he dates like he knows he dates younger woman,
Speaker 1: but maybe not Paris. I don't think Richard knows. I
Speaker 1: think Richard would frown upon it. I don't think Richard
Speaker 1: would approve of him dating students Paris, any of them.
Speaker 1: I think if you're friends with somebody and longstanding friends,
Speaker 1: you just sort of chuckle it there, idiosync. You don't
Speaker 1: try to change people or give them lectures like Leo.
Speaker 1: No one's like Leo, you should age it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nobody in his circle telling them like, hey, you
Speaker 1: got to rethink this. They're going when are you going
Speaker 1: out again? Does she have a friend a sister. While
Speaker 1: we're on the topic of Asher, let me tell you
Speaker 1: what hurt my brain when he goes. Next week, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the neglect of the individual as
Speaker 1: a hallmark of modern government, which hurt my brain, which
Speaker 1: I kind of get. And then something about coughka, which
Speaker 1: I was just like, writ existentialism, yes too hard, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind tea Jersey literature English, Yeah, inful you know, the
Speaker 1: in in the individual within a system of socialism and
Speaker 1: individual and a system of free market capitalism. It's all different, right,
Speaker 1: representative democracy versus you know, a tyrannical government. How how
Speaker 1: it affects the individual? Right? I mean, what's what's so competent?
Speaker 1: If we skipped laying at the diner all again? My lines?
Speaker 1: What are you doing with my lines. What's happening, that's
Speaker 1: my scene that's going on. Get out. Do you see
Speaker 1: me running around the Kim's antiques, sneaking around trying to
Speaker 1: make things happen? You know, No, that's a bad comparison.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I mean it's not. It's actually not.
Speaker 1: And think right, your only line was like su had
Speaker 1: to go to the bank, right, and that was a loop.
Speaker 1: The part of that was looped to and it took
Speaker 1: me out of it. Part of Luke's stuff was looped.
Speaker 1: Oh that was looped and no one else was here.
Speaker 1: Let's go back the loop. The Laurela and Jason conversation
Speaker 1: at the end when he's pacing back and forth and
Speaker 1: he found out that he's done. Yeah, some of that
Speaker 1: was looped in. Yes, yes, wow, I want to go
Speaker 1: back now, yes, rewatch it's night. Just just it's a
Speaker 1: sound it's a sound quality. It doesn't sound like it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. Her voice when she's there talking, it
Speaker 1: sounds like a voice that's been installed. And then Lane
Speaker 1: has the confrontation with the exchange that was for the
Speaker 1: exchange students. She was thought that was funny. So that
Speaker 1: girl was really funny. I did think it was really
Speaker 1: sweet when when she said, like, did Mrs Kim mentioned
Speaker 1: she has a daughter and she said yes, well yeah,
Speaker 1: And then we have that scene where they where she
Speaker 1: goes into the house and which, by the way, so
Speaker 1: weird that she walked into the house to watch her.
Speaker 1: I think that was I go flag on the play
Speaker 1: because I know if anybody broke into Mrs Kim's house,
Speaker 1: she will get up and she knows she's got that place.
Speaker 1: You would you would hear someone opening the door. That
Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. That scene was heartbreaking. That was my favorite
Speaker 1: Lane scene ever. It was it. Yeah, it was heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: beautiful scene, beautiful, the emptiness of being on the road
Speaker 1: with a rock band. It's not fulfilling. You want your
Speaker 1: mom kiss her on the forehead as she sleeps, and
Speaker 1: she won't. Oh it, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful moment.
Speaker 1: So here's my question, Danielle. It's really for Danielle and
Speaker 1: a little bit for Scott. What was going through your
Speaker 1: mind when you first see Richard opened the door and
Speaker 1: clearly he's like not, he's trying to doesn't have ice,
Speaker 1: He's trying to do things. Emily walks in with her purse,
Speaker 1: like what was going on. I thought that they were
Speaker 1: having sex in the in the kitchen and they got
Speaker 1: caught and they had to stop. That's funny. I did
Speaker 1: not think that. That's funny, Scott. I did think that,
Speaker 1: and I think they wanted us to think that, because
Speaker 1: their behavior was that, especially Emily's behavior, they were so
Speaker 1: off that it was like, you know, they were just
Speaker 1: railing each other. Man, What did you think, Danielle? So
Speaker 1: I when I was watching it, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's there's something off, obvious, something's happening. And then the
Speaker 1: light bulb went off when there was no dessert, and
Speaker 1: I realized that they wanted to end this as soon
Speaker 1: as possible and I could get back to the kitchen
Speaker 1: and finish the job. No, I just because like Emily
Speaker 1: doesn't do a dinner without dessert, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And she didn't know what was on the menu, she
Speaker 1: didn't know what they were eating, like all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I was like, Oh, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: problem internally here, like I there's something off yea like
Speaker 1: throwing them out with little goodie bags of chocolate here
Speaker 1: by like this never happened. It was weirder on this
Speaker 1: I mean, rewatch, I've seen it many times. There was
Speaker 1: I knew it, so I don't remember what I thought
Speaker 1: when I saw it the very first time when it
Speaker 1: aired on television, like because it is sort of a whoa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, how great was that scene? How funny?
Speaker 1: Was insane? The dinner larious? No, I mean Emily and
Speaker 1: Richard's behavior and just so great. You know how hard
Speaker 1: that is to do on that kind of stuff. You
Speaker 1: know what I noticed? That was very smart of somebody
Speaker 1: in production. No flowers on the table, the table, Yes,
Speaker 1: it did seem very stark, didn't it. Yes, always has flowers,
Speaker 1: extravagant centerpieces. And obviously she's not there, she's not doing that.
Speaker 1: But but right exactly, and there was. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: table was not set, there was no center piece. There
Speaker 1: was nothing that too. But here's a flag on the play,
Speaker 1: and especially in people of their age. Richard would have
Speaker 1: gone to the hotel. If a couple like Richard and
Speaker 1: Emily decide to get into some sort of argument and
Speaker 1: separate whatever it is, Emily would have had the house,
Speaker 1: Richard would have gone to that. I disagree though, because
Speaker 1: Richard is not the one that's upset, like Emily is
Speaker 1: the one that is not happy with his you're saying
Speaker 1: she just said, like I'm going to hotel. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think she was like, I don't even recognize you.
Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, like it. Speaking speaking of flags
Speaker 1: on the play, give it. What the heck is going
Speaker 1: on with that ref in the Super Bowl? Throwing a
Speaker 1: flag with a minute thirty to go on, a little
Speaker 1: ticky cat nothing we understand. Let it. Let it out,
Speaker 1: for God's sake. I'm fulfilly boy, man, I understand that
Speaker 1: people are upset the eagles flying high then shot down
Speaker 1: by the flags. Sorry, I'm not gonna lie you for
Speaker 1: a second. I was like, there was like rough on
Speaker 1: my golf course in the episode. It was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I missed. I just needed to I needed to get
Speaker 1: that out. You know. So you think a sort of
Speaker 1: in a fight as opposed to like, okay, I'm completely wrong.
Speaker 1: They weren't having sex. They weren't in a fight. She
Speaker 1: was already out of the house. Your superior observation skills
Speaker 1: and logic skills have trumped me yet again. The park,
Speaker 1: the car was parked out there. She was just coming
Speaker 1: in to get something and leave. Well, then at the
Speaker 1: end when she leaves, when they was coming in for dinner,
Speaker 1: because they're going to try and pretend you're not telling
Speaker 1: the girl because she's just coming in as part of
Speaker 1: the ruse. So now every Friday night, she wasn't the table.
Speaker 1: Why wasn't the table set if they're trying to because
Speaker 1: they weren't they early too, they were really Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were early, and they weren't that early. Twenty minutes. I
Speaker 1: mean twenty minutes you can put flowers of flowers on
Speaker 1: a vase on the table and get things situated. And
Speaker 1: Richard doesn't know what he's doing what he does, so
Speaker 1: he's all doesn't know what's going And at the end
Speaker 1: when they when they hide and see her get in
Speaker 1: the car and leave. You like she didn't dry cleaning
Speaker 1: with the dry clean she didn't even wait like five
Speaker 1: minutes she was out. It was funny, going my shoes,
Speaker 1: my shoes, my shoes, nice shoes, nice shoes. I don't
Speaker 1: want the bushes, I don't. But wouldn't she have seen
Speaker 1: their car still there? That's the weird part. Two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little there's a little bit of like we
Speaker 1: have to she's probably so just in She's like, I
Speaker 1: just want to get out, Like yeah, for sure. So
Speaker 1: then we have the big performance at the gig, got
Speaker 1: the gig? Did you notice? No you go? Did she
Speaker 1: notice the background actor just like singing every word in
Speaker 1: the crowd? And I was like, how many times do
Speaker 1: they do this take where this guy knows every word?
Speaker 1: You knew every word? Uh? What did you think of
Speaker 1: the overall scene? I mean I get the whole point
Speaker 1: there sad plane, like she didn't have anybody there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean right, Brian's got his like weird family, screw
Speaker 1: your dreams, get back to your get back to your mother,
Speaker 1: screw your dreams. Oh interesting, that's what the scene was, right,
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting take. It's not wrong. Mine was like,
Speaker 1: she's so she's living her dream and she's so lonely.
Speaker 1: She wants her family there to support her, which is
Speaker 1: so complicated because she's got this, but it's not it's
Speaker 1: not very rock and roll, is it. No, but everybody
Speaker 1: had somebody, Zack Scott, the ladies, you know, Sebastian Box
Speaker 1: got his. Not sports. It's not sports, you know, where
Speaker 1: you want your family to come cheer you on. It's
Speaker 1: you don't want the very rock and roll just get
Speaker 1: plastered and about the way and find a guy, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, but then you hang out with your band
Speaker 1: meats right or whatever? Like how are you going to
Speaker 1: hang out with those bandmates on one's got his mommy
Speaker 1: with a bag of carrots, the other one that is
Speaker 1: like thinks he's Hugh Hefner, and the other one is like,
Speaker 1: you know, macin on his wife right in the hallway there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's more of not feeling supported,
Speaker 1: Like everyone had a support system there and she didn't.
Speaker 1: That's really what it is. Not even a friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just literally wrote, poor, Well what did you excuse me?
Speaker 1: What did she expect her mother to show up to
Speaker 1: a rock concert? What did she what did she expect?
Speaker 1: I think she expect she doesn't have people. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: Rory could have come, but she had to go to
Speaker 1: this fiasco. But there's only one friend, Like she doesn't
Speaker 1: even have anyone else that would come, Like, has no one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: m she could make more friends, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: right right, look, rock and roll. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I know this from experience. Rock and roll is a
Speaker 1: lonely rude. I think it just reminds I agree, I
Speaker 1: don't write I wouldn't want to live on a tour
Speaker 1: bus if you paid me a millionaire. Well not at
Speaker 1: this age, no way, when you're nineteen. Really amplified Delane
Speaker 1: like she has no one and she and now she's
Speaker 1: been replaced, that other girl has her apple. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's just the big thing. Being replaced is very, very
Speaker 1: tough to swallow. That's that's a that's a hard one.
Speaker 1: And then this just triggered that. Yeah, well if you
Speaker 1: get if you get replaced, if you get dumped by
Speaker 1: your own mother and replaced, you just go out there
Speaker 1: and write a song about it. I mean, go play
Speaker 1: harder the next gig, go party harder. Possibly Scott with
Speaker 1: his cold stone heart. But here we get to the
Speaker 1: debate rock and roll man. She's entered the she's entered
Speaker 1: the Colosseum, right, she wanted it. So here's the next one.
Speaker 1: Now we're in the cafe and Laura Lae says to Jason,
Speaker 1: obviously telling him her parents are separated. The best scene
Speaker 1: I have ever seen from Lauren Graham. This was impressive,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was impressive in the way she
Speaker 1: handled it because it wasn't a big, wile, ugly fight.
Speaker 1: You know, it didn't get out of hand. It was
Speaker 1: just she chose her family. Her family became like you
Speaker 1: you can't, but you don't have to do this. You
Speaker 1: can't sue my family, right, And it was just like,
Speaker 1: that's Laura La Gilmore, that is Emily and Richard's daughter. Right.
Speaker 1: For me, that was as significant a statement as I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in this show. And it was a beautiful moment.
Speaker 1: It was a beautiful, full circle moment for me as
Speaker 1: a fan of the show. And I don't think she's
Speaker 1: ever looked that good. I don't think she's ever been
Speaker 1: more appealing as a character. And I fell in love
Speaker 1: with her all over again. I was like, yes, I
Speaker 1: want that's the that's the woman. I want her family.
Speaker 1: You do not assume my family. And it was an
Speaker 1: easy and what I loved the ease of the transition
Speaker 1: of like we used to be together, now we're not together,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to leave now without any fanfare bye,
Speaker 1: and just the look in her eyes. It wasn't dramatic,
Speaker 1: it was, but it was the but therefore it was
Speaker 1: the soul of drama because she didn't give that much.
Speaker 1: There was an easy decision. I agree with how you're
Speaker 1: saying it. And she's like, he's saying it's just business,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't have to do this, Like
Speaker 1: do you think it was her best I've ever seen her?
Speaker 1: Do you think anything would have changed if she didn't
Speaker 1: have the conversation with Richard first though about like financials
Speaker 1: and stuff. She had to have the conversation with Richard.
Speaker 1: She had to come off that way. No. No, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like what if I think No, I think that if
Speaker 1: Jason suing, then it's just done. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You know that. You're right, you're gonna assume my family.
Speaker 1: You're gonna put me in that pickle. It's like, I
Speaker 1: know what my father did to you, but think about
Speaker 1: what what you did to get, you know, just to
Speaker 1: heat up your to boil yourself in your own pot.
Speaker 1: Because he was being completely selfish and that's I mean
Speaker 1: Richard was as well, but Richard was more of a
Speaker 1: family thing. And and for for Jason, it's like it's
Speaker 1: just about his reputation. That's all it comes down to.
Speaker 1: Love love that scene, that scene. Yeah, I agree. Right
Speaker 1: after that, I wrote, Wow this up. Yeah, that was powerful.
Speaker 1: That was powerful scene, and I thought he played it
Speaker 1: beautifully too, because obviously he knew beforehand what the scene
Speaker 1: was about. So I think the two of the two
Speaker 1: of them handled that that beautifully. That scene, that's my
Speaker 1: favorite scene, and it might be the entire four years
Speaker 1: so far. I just I loved her in that scene.
Speaker 1: I thought, man, what you know? So proud to know
Speaker 1: brings us to favorite lines, which I think that's easy agreement,
Speaker 1: that's easy. Go ahead, Tara. I mean we did how
Speaker 1: many lucial balls? Yeah, I think I'm gonna do how
Speaker 1: many divorce decrees? Like mine was the same as Taras
Speaker 1: so whole scene. Yeah, I'm like, the whole face mar
Speaker 1: this episode? What do we what do do? How many mailboxes? Etcetera?
Speaker 1: Or what about the what was it? The meatball thing?
Speaker 1: May meatball explosions on the forehead? How many? How many
Speaker 1: lonely symbol slaps? Should everybody do their own? Yes? Maybe
Speaker 1: we should always do our Just pick one and go
Speaker 1: with it, Daniel, nine out of ten kisses on the forehead, Mom, Tara,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a nine out of ten meatball explosions.
Speaker 1: I was going eight point five meatball explosions, but I
Speaker 1: think I'll do um instead, I'll do eight point five
Speaker 1: Dragonfly minivans. There you go. I'm gonna give it um
Speaker 1: nine point nine eight broken Suki foots, good one, good one?
Speaker 1: Favorite lines? What's favorite lines? We did them? Well? Who
Speaker 1: did them? Who did? Who did you? I didn't hear yours?
Speaker 1: What were yours? But I have I have I have
Speaker 1: some balls. Oh so everybody liked the balls thing? All right?
Speaker 1: That was my least favorite line. Oh yeah, it was. Uh.
Speaker 1: I like Rory's line when she said, uh, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, people get all that. They say things change,
Speaker 1: but not in the same and not in one week,
Speaker 1: all in one. Alright, everybody, Next episode, Season four, Episode
Speaker 1: twenty one, almost done, Season four, Luke can see her face.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, could this be the episode? Is this the
Speaker 1: lead up to this finale? Oh no, this is not
Speaker 1: the finale? I guess Oh this is this is really
Speaker 1: heating up, folks, heating up? Right? Um? Alright, a US,
Speaker 1: that's that terrific episode. Um. This is the first time
Speaker 1: I haven't given something to ten in a long time.
Speaker 1: It's nine point nine eight is fine, it's point to
Speaker 1: um anyway. Um, that's it, folks, Thank you so much
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