1 00:00:15,410 --> 00:00:25,410 Speaker 1: Pushkin. William Cartwright is dropping off to sleep on an 2 00:00:25,410 --> 00:00:31,010 Speaker 1: improvised bed in the textile mill he owns near Cleckheaton, Yorkshire, England. 3 00:00:32,170 --> 00:00:38,130 Speaker 1: Outside the river Spend flows gently by on working days. 4 00:00:38,250 --> 00:00:42,090 Speaker 1: The river's current turns a wheel that powers machines that 5 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:47,130 Speaker 1: sheer cloth. The year is eighteen twelve, a Saturday night 6 00:00:47,170 --> 00:00:54,010 Speaker 1: in April, just gone midnight, the mill owner's dog begins 7 00:00:54,050 --> 00:00:59,370 Speaker 1: to growl all at once. Cartwright is alert. He isn't 8 00:00:59,410 --> 00:01:02,450 Speaker 1: sure yet if this is the trouble he's been expecting 9 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:06,690 Speaker 1: for weeks. He's posted two guards outside the yard, and 10 00:01:06,730 --> 00:01:08,930 Speaker 1: he had assumed there'd be the first to raise the 11 00:01:08,890 --> 00:01:14,090 Speaker 1: other arm. They haven't, and now the growling turns to barking. 12 00:01:14,850 --> 00:01:18,690 Speaker 1: Cartwright springs out of bed. He wakes the other nine 13 00:01:18,810 --> 00:01:22,210 Speaker 1: men who are sleeping in the mill, or of his workers, 14 00:01:22,450 --> 00:01:26,370 Speaker 1: and five soldiers borrowed from a local regiment. No time 15 00:01:26,410 --> 00:01:30,810 Speaker 1: to put on clothes, the men pick up their guns. Outside. 16 00:01:31,290 --> 00:01:34,130 Speaker 1: The gates of the yard are being battered off their hinges, 17 00:01:34,690 --> 00:01:37,570 Speaker 1: and Cartwright's men are on the upper floor of the mill. 18 00:01:37,930 --> 00:01:40,290 Speaker 1: They point their guns through holes that have been made 19 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:44,650 Speaker 1: in the thick stone walls, and they listen and wait 20 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:49,890 Speaker 1: from outside, the sound of trampling feet and murmured voices. 21 00:01:50,290 --> 00:01:53,490 Speaker 1: Then another crash, this time of glass, A volley of 22 00:01:53,610 --> 00:01:57,650 Speaker 1: rocks smashing through the ground floor windows, an almighty yell, 23 00:01:57,930 --> 00:02:01,730 Speaker 1: and the firing of pistols and muskets. The men in 24 00:02:01,810 --> 00:02:05,970 Speaker 1: the mill open fire in the turn down beneath them. 25 00:02:06,130 --> 00:02:09,810 Speaker 1: The door to the mill shudders under blow after blow 26 00:02:10,010 --> 00:02:14,770 Speaker 1: from hatchets massive hammers. A voice from outside urges on 27 00:02:14,850 --> 00:02:18,490 Speaker 1: the men attacking the door. In with your lads, damn them, 28 00:02:18,770 --> 00:02:23,530 Speaker 1: kill them everyone. Cartwright has prepared for this. He's about 29 00:02:23,570 --> 00:02:27,290 Speaker 1: to find out how well he's had the mills wooden 30 00:02:27,370 --> 00:02:31,970 Speaker 1: door reinforced with iron studs and bars. If the attackers 31 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:34,650 Speaker 1: do manage to force it in, they'll find themselves on 32 00:02:34,690 --> 00:02:37,970 Speaker 1: the lower floor, and Cartwright's men will then be able 33 00:02:38,010 --> 00:02:40,730 Speaker 1: to shoot at them from above through gaps he's made 34 00:02:40,770 --> 00:02:44,690 Speaker 1: in the stonework separating the upper and lower floors. If 35 00:02:44,690 --> 00:02:47,530 Speaker 1: the attackers tried to get up the stairs, they'll find 36 00:02:47,610 --> 00:02:52,210 Speaker 1: that Cartwright has installed a fearsome roll of eighteen inch spikes. 37 00:02:53,290 --> 00:02:55,730 Speaker 1: If they get past that, he's got a barrel of 38 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:59,570 Speaker 1: sulfuric acid he can tip on top of them, but anyway, 39 00:02:59,890 --> 00:03:04,410 Speaker 1: The door's holding for now, and Cartwright's men are reloading, 40 00:03:04,650 --> 00:03:07,210 Speaker 1: firing their weapons through those little holes in the wall, 41 00:03:08,050 --> 00:03:12,770 Speaker 1: at least to the mark. One of the soldier's cartrights borrowed. 42 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:16,450 Speaker 1: Doesn't appear to be doing much, just turning his gun 43 00:03:16,650 --> 00:03:21,010 Speaker 1: over in his hand. What's wrong, asked Cartwright. Is her 44 00:03:21,050 --> 00:03:26,130 Speaker 1: gun faulty? No, says the soldier. Then why aren't you firing? 45 00:03:27,290 --> 00:03:30,530 Speaker 1: I might hit some of my brothers. And who are 46 00:03:30,610 --> 00:03:33,890 Speaker 1: these brothers? The men attacking the mill? The men the 47 00:03:34,010 --> 00:03:37,930 Speaker 1: soldier is reluctant to hurt. Are they robbers looking to 48 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:42,690 Speaker 1: steal the mill owner's money? Not at all. They're followers, 49 00:03:42,730 --> 00:03:49,210 Speaker 1: are a mysterious individual called General ned Blood, Or more simply, 50 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:55,290 Speaker 1: they're Luod Heites. I'm Tim Harford and you're listening to 51 00:03:55,490 --> 00:04:23,330 Speaker 1: cautionary tales today. Luddite is a term of mockery, what 52 00:04:23,370 --> 00:04:26,330 Speaker 1: you'd laughingly say about a boomer who hasn't figured out 53 00:04:26,370 --> 00:04:29,450 Speaker 1: how to listen to a podcast yet a description for 54 00:04:29,570 --> 00:04:32,730 Speaker 1: someone who's scared of technology, who doesn't know how to 55 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:36,530 Speaker 1: use it, doesn't appreciate what it can do for them. 56 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:41,370 Speaker 1: But in eighteen twelve in Yorkshire, luddism was no laughing 57 00:04:41,450 --> 00:04:45,770 Speaker 1: matter for the likes of William Cartwright. Three years before, 58 00:04:46,250 --> 00:04:51,050 Speaker 1: Cartwright had brought new machinery into his mill. He wanted 59 00:04:51,090 --> 00:04:55,730 Speaker 1: to automate a job that was hard and slow for humans, cropping, 60 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:59,370 Speaker 1: as it was called. When cloth is made, it's rough 61 00:04:59,530 --> 00:05:03,490 Speaker 1: and uneven. The cropper uses shears to make it smooth. 62 00:05:04,330 --> 00:05:08,450 Speaker 1: It's a delicate task. It takes real skill to lift 63 00:05:08,570 --> 00:05:11,170 Speaker 1: the rough cloth and wheeld the shears to get a 64 00:05:11,210 --> 00:05:15,290 Speaker 1: beautiful finish. It's also painful, at least to start with 65 00:05:16,130 --> 00:05:20,170 Speaker 1: the handles of the shears dig into the wrist. In time, 66 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:23,930 Speaker 1: the skin on the wrist gets hard and calloused. You 67 00:05:23,970 --> 00:05:26,490 Speaker 1: can tell if someone's a cropper with a glance at 68 00:05:26,490 --> 00:05:30,730 Speaker 1: their wrist. Because the job is hard and skilled, it 69 00:05:30,810 --> 00:05:35,250 Speaker 1: pays well. Young men push through that initial pain for 70 00:05:35,370 --> 00:05:39,050 Speaker 1: the prospect of a gainful career. Cropping is a high 71 00:05:39,130 --> 00:05:46,490 Speaker 1: status profession in working communities. It's also recently become unnecessary 72 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:50,690 Speaker 1: because machines called gig mills and shearing frames can do 73 00:05:50,730 --> 00:05:53,810 Speaker 1: the job just as well and far more quickly. As 74 00:05:53,810 --> 00:05:59,010 Speaker 1: William cartrch is making all too clear, Cartright's not the 75 00:05:59,050 --> 00:06:02,730 Speaker 1: only mill owner who's brought in these new machines, but 76 00:06:02,770 --> 00:06:05,850 Speaker 1: he's one of the few who's daring still to use them. 77 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:10,650 Speaker 1: In the spring of eighteen twelve, other local mill owners 78 00:06:10,650 --> 00:06:15,890 Speaker 1: have been intimidated by letters signed by General lud dismantle 79 00:06:15,890 --> 00:06:20,210 Speaker 1: the machines or will smash them up. It's no idle 80 00:06:20,290 --> 00:06:24,530 Speaker 1: threat if the machines stay in use. Masked gangs come 81 00:06:24,610 --> 00:06:28,450 Speaker 1: in the dead of night. They use hatchets to break 82 00:06:28,450 --> 00:06:32,090 Speaker 1: in the door and great hammers to smash the machines. 83 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:37,690 Speaker 1: Working people argued about whether or not this would all backfire. 84 00:06:40,050 --> 00:06:45,290 Speaker 1: Let's rewind to March eighteen twelve, a month before the 85 00:06:45,330 --> 00:06:49,490 Speaker 1: attack on Cartwright's mill. In a cropping shop, a group 86 00:06:49,530 --> 00:06:53,370 Speaker 1: of men are talking after work. Our account of this 87 00:06:53,410 --> 00:06:57,730 Speaker 1: conversation comes from a nineteenth century historian called Frank Peel, 88 00:06:58,210 --> 00:07:02,570 Speaker 1: who years later recorded the stories that local people handed down. 89 00:07:03,850 --> 00:07:07,930 Speaker 1: Most of those Peel describes talking are croppers and committed 90 00:07:08,010 --> 00:07:11,210 Speaker 1: followers of the shef. Do we figure they call General 91 00:07:11,290 --> 00:07:16,450 Speaker 1: Lud One is not. John Booth is nineteen years old, 92 00:07:16,810 --> 00:07:19,850 Speaker 1: an apprentice saddle maker, the son of a clergyman with 93 00:07:19,930 --> 00:07:23,810 Speaker 1: the Church of England. Would it not be better, asks 94 00:07:23,890 --> 00:07:28,010 Speaker 1: Booth to reason with them rather than infuriate them? By 95 00:07:28,010 --> 00:07:31,970 Speaker 1: destroying their machines. Reason with them, He might as well 96 00:07:32,050 --> 00:07:36,930 Speaker 1: reason with a stone. Booth's friend, the cropper, George Meller, 97 00:07:37,330 --> 00:07:41,810 Speaker 1: is the local leader of those masked marauding gangs. Meller 98 00:07:41,930 --> 00:07:45,130 Speaker 1: is still working for now, but he's well aware that 99 00:07:45,210 --> 00:07:49,210 Speaker 1: he can't compete with water powered gig mills and shearing frames. 100 00:07:50,050 --> 00:07:53,290 Speaker 1: He and his fellow croppers can see that the skill 101 00:07:53,410 --> 00:07:57,810 Speaker 1: they've spent years perfecting is soon to be rendered worthless. 102 00:07:58,570 --> 00:08:01,130 Speaker 1: It's all right for John Booth. He's not a cropper, 103 00:08:01,250 --> 00:08:04,850 Speaker 1: He's a saddle maker, and there isn't a saddle making machine, 104 00:08:04,890 --> 00:08:08,490 Speaker 1: not yet anyway. These machines aren't taking Booth's trade out 105 00:08:08,490 --> 00:08:11,290 Speaker 1: of his fingers, says Meller. Or it happens, see things 106 00:08:11,290 --> 00:08:15,290 Speaker 1: in a different light. But young Booth has thought this 107 00:08:15,450 --> 00:08:20,330 Speaker 1: through and he argues back. Being a cropper is hard work. 108 00:08:20,530 --> 00:08:24,250 Speaker 1: He points out, it's painful too, until you develop that hard, 109 00:08:24,370 --> 00:08:27,850 Speaker 1: callous skin on the wrist. And have you seen those 110 00:08:27,890 --> 00:08:30,530 Speaker 1: machines in action. You just have to set up the 111 00:08:30,530 --> 00:08:33,770 Speaker 1: cloth and keep an eye on them. They take away 112 00:08:33,850 --> 00:08:38,570 Speaker 1: all of that hard, painful work scene like that. The 113 00:08:38,610 --> 00:08:43,010 Speaker 1: machinery is a thing of beauty. I quite agree with you. 114 00:08:43,210 --> 00:08:47,690 Speaker 1: Says Booth, respecting the harm you suffer from machinery, but 115 00:08:47,850 --> 00:08:50,970 Speaker 1: it might be man's chief blessing instead of his curse. 116 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:56,290 Speaker 1: If society was differently constituted. You can't say the machine 117 00:08:56,330 --> 00:09:00,370 Speaker 1: itself is evil, says Booth. That's absurd. No, the problem 118 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:04,090 Speaker 1: is that the mill owner gets all the benefits. If 119 00:09:04,130 --> 00:09:11,930 Speaker 1: those benefits were fairly shared out. If if George Meller 120 00:09:12,210 --> 00:09:15,610 Speaker 1: is not impressed, what's the use of such sermons as 121 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:21,450 Speaker 1: thine to starving men? Starving is not just a figure 122 00:09:21,490 --> 00:09:25,610 Speaker 1: of speech. Another man joins in the conversation. He tells 123 00:09:25,650 --> 00:09:28,330 Speaker 1: how he went to see a former workmate, a cropper 124 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:31,610 Speaker 1: who lost his job. He can't find other work. There's 125 00:09:31,650 --> 00:09:36,490 Speaker 1: a war on with Napoleon's France. It's disrupted trade. Nobody's hiring, 126 00:09:36,970 --> 00:09:40,130 Speaker 1: and the price of food has shot up. The man's 127 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:44,090 Speaker 1: been struggling to afford to eat, and now his wife 128 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:48,130 Speaker 1: has died. There she lay on the bed, poor thing, 129 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:53,010 Speaker 1: skin and bone. Now tells he told his fellows. It's 130 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:56,290 Speaker 1: hard for John Booth to argue with that. He knows 131 00:09:56,290 --> 00:10:00,410 Speaker 1: he's right. The machines would be a blessing if society 132 00:10:00,570 --> 00:10:04,890 Speaker 1: were differently constituted, But he knows his friends are right too. 133 00:10:05,490 --> 00:10:08,490 Speaker 1: It isn't much comfort to conceive of a different world 134 00:10:09,250 --> 00:10:13,090 Speaker 1: if you're starving to death in this one. To confess 135 00:10:13,090 --> 00:10:16,570 Speaker 1: the truth, says Booth. I don't see much chance of 136 00:10:16,610 --> 00:10:20,330 Speaker 1: reorganizing society on a better and sounder basis at present. 137 00:10:21,410 --> 00:10:24,850 Speaker 1: I know not what to say. Say you'll join us, 138 00:10:25,690 --> 00:10:32,170 Speaker 1: says Meller. What to do? Booth doubts that smashing machines 139 00:10:32,210 --> 00:10:34,850 Speaker 1: will achieve anything, but it's not like he has a 140 00:10:34,890 --> 00:10:39,650 Speaker 1: better plan, and who knows. Maybe he's wrong. Maybe drastic 141 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:42,810 Speaker 1: action will make people sit up and take notice of 142 00:10:42,890 --> 00:10:48,090 Speaker 1: how desperate the workers are. All right, says Booth, I'm 143 00:10:48,130 --> 00:10:53,290 Speaker 1: in Mella wants to decide on their next target. In 144 00:10:53,330 --> 00:10:57,530 Speaker 1: the last few weeks, they've had success after success around 145 00:10:57,650 --> 00:11:01,610 Speaker 1: the Yorkshire town of Huddersfield. They've smashed up some machines 146 00:11:01,810 --> 00:11:04,730 Speaker 1: and sent threatening letters to the owners of other machines, 147 00:11:04,890 --> 00:11:08,010 Speaker 1: and almost everyone has agreed to go back to the 148 00:11:08,130 --> 00:11:12,450 Speaker 1: old ways of cropping by hand. A local magistrate is 149 00:11:12,530 --> 00:11:16,770 Speaker 1: even recommending they do so for their own safety. But 150 00:11:17,170 --> 00:11:23,130 Speaker 1: two local mill owners have been loudly and publicly holding out. 151 00:11:23,490 --> 00:11:28,050 Speaker 1: One is William Cartwright. He's got nothing but contempt for 152 00:11:28,130 --> 00:11:32,730 Speaker 1: his peers who are taking down their shearing frames. Pew sillanimous, 153 00:11:32,850 --> 00:11:37,130 Speaker 1: he calls them. Instead, He's fortified his mill. He's brought 154 00:11:37,170 --> 00:11:40,610 Speaker 1: in soldiers from a local regiment. He's taken to sleeping 155 00:11:40,690 --> 00:11:44,770 Speaker 1: in his mill with the soldiers every night. The other 156 00:11:44,930 --> 00:11:50,170 Speaker 1: local holdout is William Horseful. He's gone even further than Cartwright. 157 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:54,370 Speaker 1: He's installed a cannon in his mill. Just let the 158 00:11:54,450 --> 00:11:57,570 Speaker 1: Luddites try to smash up his machines, he says, to 159 00:11:57,610 --> 00:12:00,730 Speaker 1: anyone who'll listen, I'll ride up to my saddlegirths in 160 00:12:00,890 --> 00:12:05,570 Speaker 1: Luddite blood. If the Yorkshire croppers are to win their 161 00:12:05,650 --> 00:12:09,810 Speaker 1: battle against the new machines, the two Williams Artright and 162 00:12:09,930 --> 00:12:15,170 Speaker 1: Horsefall need to be taught a lesson whose mill should 163 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:21,450 Speaker 1: they attack first. They flip a coin. It's Cartwright. None 164 00:12:21,490 --> 00:12:25,490 Speaker 1: of them know it. But this time the attack will 165 00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:31,970 Speaker 1: determine who lives and who dies. Cautionary tales will be 166 00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:45,930 Speaker 1: back after the break. In his classic book The Making 167 00:12:46,130 --> 00:12:50,450 Speaker 1: of the English Working Class, the historian E. P. Thompson 168 00:12:50,890 --> 00:12:54,370 Speaker 1: sees the roots of Luddism in a failure of politics. 169 00:12:55,210 --> 00:12:58,810 Speaker 1: For years, he says, organizations of workers had been sending 170 00:12:58,890 --> 00:13:03,170 Speaker 1: representatives to London with policy proposals such as attacks of 171 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:06,970 Speaker 1: sixpence a yard on cloth made by machines. That money 172 00:13:07,050 --> 00:13:11,290 Speaker 1: to go into a fund to support displaced workers. But 173 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:14,930 Speaker 1: these ideas went against the mood of the day, which 174 00:13:15,050 --> 00:13:20,330 Speaker 1: was a sudden passion for lais a fair economics. Politicians 175 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:24,330 Speaker 1: were busy abolishing restrictions on what workers and factories could 176 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:28,450 Speaker 1: and couldn't do. Those old laws, said Thompson, were often 177 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:32,890 Speaker 1: bad for workers, but still somewhere within them was the 178 00:13:32,930 --> 00:13:38,610 Speaker 1: shadowy image of a benevolent corporate state. There'd always been 179 00:13:38,650 --> 00:13:42,930 Speaker 1: an ethos of paternalism, the idea that those higher up 180 00:13:42,970 --> 00:13:46,090 Speaker 1: in the social order had some kind of obligation to 181 00:13:46,170 --> 00:13:49,930 Speaker 1: those below. Workers might be low down the order, but 182 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:54,370 Speaker 1: they had a place. The new ideal was to free 183 00:13:54,490 --> 00:13:59,210 Speaker 1: up markets. If machines and unskilled workers could do things 184 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:03,330 Speaker 1: more cheaply than skilled artisans. The artisans were simply out 185 00:14:03,330 --> 00:14:08,690 Speaker 1: of luck. No redundancy pay, no unemployment benefit, no programs 186 00:14:08,730 --> 00:14:14,770 Speaker 1: to help them reskill and learn another trade. Luddism, writes Thompson, 187 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:21,250 Speaker 1: appeared with an almost inevitable logic to the croppers. Ned 188 00:14:21,370 --> 00:14:25,890 Speaker 1: lud was the defender of an ancient right the upholder 189 00:14:26,010 --> 00:14:32,770 Speaker 1: of a lost constitution, and who exactly was this mysterious 190 00:14:33,010 --> 00:14:36,850 Speaker 1: Ned Lud. He was from Nottingham, a town in the 191 00:14:36,890 --> 00:14:41,330 Speaker 1: English Midlands that was famous for its stocking industry and 192 00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:46,250 Speaker 1: for its centuries old stories about another popular outlaw who 193 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:49,370 Speaker 1: was feared by the bad and loved by the good 194 00:14:50,530 --> 00:14:58,490 Speaker 1: chant no moyal rhymes about bold robin Hood his feed 195 00:14:58,610 --> 00:15:05,370 Speaker 1: ci but little man our singly achievements of General Lord 196 00:15:06,210 --> 00:15:14,210 Speaker 1: now in a hero Nottingham sh robin Hood was mythical, 197 00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:18,490 Speaker 1: so was General Lud. He was based on a well 198 00:15:18,530 --> 00:15:22,850 Speaker 1: known local story about a man called ned Lud, supposedly 199 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:26,730 Speaker 1: a young stocking maker who once smashed up his stocking 200 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:31,170 Speaker 1: frame in a fit of rage. In eighteen eleven, when 201 00:15:31,330 --> 00:15:35,050 Speaker 1: masked gangs started to smash up stocking frames in Nottingham 202 00:15:35,050 --> 00:15:38,850 Speaker 1: at night, people joked that ned Lud must have done it. 203 00:15:39,650 --> 00:15:42,290 Speaker 1: The gangs picked up the joke and ran with it. 204 00:15:42,810 --> 00:15:46,770 Speaker 1: They called themselves an army and imagined ned Ludd as 205 00:15:46,810 --> 00:15:51,250 Speaker 1: their general. When their leaders sent threatening letters, they signed 206 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:57,330 Speaker 1: them General Lud. Newspapers reported breathlessly about the exploits of 207 00:15:57,370 --> 00:16:01,850 Speaker 1: the Nottingham Luddites. They inspired workers in other industries in 208 00:16:01,930 --> 00:16:05,290 Speaker 1: other parts of England, such as the croppers in Yorkshire. 209 00:16:06,330 --> 00:16:11,450 Speaker 1: The government responded with a legal clamp down. It was 210 00:16:11,490 --> 00:16:15,410 Speaker 1: hard to get anyone to testify against the masked machine smashers, 211 00:16:15,930 --> 00:16:20,410 Speaker 1: As one magistrate complained, almost every creature of the lower 212 00:16:20,530 --> 00:16:25,010 Speaker 1: order is on their side. So they sent out spies 213 00:16:25,490 --> 00:16:29,690 Speaker 1: and offered money to tempt informers, and they rushed through 214 00:16:29,970 --> 00:16:35,370 Speaker 1: new legislation smashing machines could now be punished with the 215 00:16:35,450 --> 00:16:41,290 Speaker 1: death penalty. On the night of the eleventh of April 216 00:16:41,650 --> 00:16:46,050 Speaker 1: eighteen twelve, around one hundred and fifty men leave their 217 00:16:46,090 --> 00:16:50,370 Speaker 1: homes and make their way to a quiet country lane 218 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:55,450 Speaker 1: three miles from William Cartwright's mill. They wear masks or 219 00:16:55,490 --> 00:17:00,370 Speaker 1: blackened faces. They sought themselves by weapon. Some have got 220 00:17:00,370 --> 00:17:04,810 Speaker 1: hold of muskets or pistols. Others have hatchets or hammers 221 00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:10,890 Speaker 1: or bludgeons. George Meller gives them a pep talk. Cart writes, boasted. 222 00:17:11,010 --> 00:17:14,250 Speaker 1: He reminds them that he'll defend his mill, but we're 223 00:17:14,290 --> 00:17:17,370 Speaker 1: well armed and we shall handle him. You know what 224 00:17:17,450 --> 00:17:21,890 Speaker 1: to do. They march the three miles to Cartwright's mill 225 00:17:22,170 --> 00:17:26,410 Speaker 1: and stop just short of the gates. There'll be two 226 00:17:26,530 --> 00:17:30,210 Speaker 1: guards outside. They know. A few of the men sneak 227 00:17:30,290 --> 00:17:35,010 Speaker 1: up on them, grab them and muffle their cries. The 228 00:17:35,090 --> 00:17:38,970 Speaker 1: hatchet men advance on the gates and batter them inwards. 229 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:43,170 Speaker 1: The men swarm into the yard. They hurl rocks through 230 00:17:43,170 --> 00:17:45,970 Speaker 1: the mill's windows, and with a yell, the men with 231 00:17:46,130 --> 00:17:51,090 Speaker 1: guns opened fire through the shattered glass. But then there's 232 00:17:51,170 --> 00:17:55,930 Speaker 1: gun fire back from inside the mill. Hatchetmen to the 233 00:17:55,930 --> 00:18:01,010 Speaker 1: front cries mellow. The hatchets rain down on the mill's 234 00:18:01,010 --> 00:18:05,890 Speaker 1: wooden door, but it's so well reinforced they're mostly hitting 235 00:18:05,970 --> 00:18:10,690 Speaker 1: iron Sparks are flying all around. George Meller His men 236 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:14,850 Speaker 1: are crying out in pain as bullets find them. And 237 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:18,770 Speaker 1: now someone sounded an alarm calling for reinforcements from a 238 00:18:18,810 --> 00:18:22,050 Speaker 1: regiment nearby. How long will it take them to arrive? 239 00:18:22,850 --> 00:18:27,010 Speaker 1: Shoot at the bell? Damn that bell, Mello yells, get it, lads. 240 00:18:28,050 --> 00:18:32,610 Speaker 1: The bell stops ringing, but not for long. They've shot 241 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:36,410 Speaker 1: through the rope that Cartwright's man was pulling. That Cartwright 242 00:18:36,490 --> 00:18:38,770 Speaker 1: has simply sent the man up onto the roof to 243 00:18:38,890 --> 00:18:42,050 Speaker 1: ring the bell by hand. They can't have long before 244 00:18:42,050 --> 00:18:45,410 Speaker 1: the soldiers get there, and the door's still holding. Is 245 00:18:45,410 --> 00:18:48,890 Speaker 1: there another way in to the back, lads, Mello commands. 246 00:18:49,810 --> 00:18:52,210 Speaker 1: Some of the attackers try to find their way round 247 00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:54,730 Speaker 1: the back of the mill that the river runs right 248 00:18:54,850 --> 00:18:58,490 Speaker 1: next to it. One slips and falls in, the others 249 00:18:58,610 --> 00:19:01,650 Speaker 1: stop and scramble to help him out. So now there's 250 00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:06,970 Speaker 1: no alternative. It all depends on getting that door down fast. 251 00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:10,290 Speaker 1: And suddenly there's a break through, a hole in the 252 00:19:10,290 --> 00:19:13,210 Speaker 1: wood of the door about the size of a man's head. 253 00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:17,490 Speaker 1: In with your lads, damn them, kill them everyone. The 254 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:21,410 Speaker 1: men surge at the door, but still it holds, and 255 00:19:21,530 --> 00:19:24,850 Speaker 1: the soldiers in the mill start to shoot through the hole. 256 00:19:25,690 --> 00:19:29,050 Speaker 1: Someone cries out and fall to the ground holding his leg. 257 00:19:29,770 --> 00:19:35,570 Speaker 1: It's nineteen year old apprentice saddle maker John Booth. He 258 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:37,570 Speaker 1: never did think this attack on the mill was a 259 00:19:37,570 --> 00:19:41,810 Speaker 1: good idea. And now the attackers with muskets and pistols 260 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:44,610 Speaker 1: have run out of ammunition. If they do get him, 261 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:48,890 Speaker 1: what then the bell's still ringing. You can't have long 262 00:19:48,970 --> 00:19:53,330 Speaker 1: before more soldiers get there. Attackers start to fall back. 263 00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:57,490 Speaker 1: It's clear that they've failed. Split up, lads, get home 264 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:01,290 Speaker 1: as quick as you can. Two men can't get home. 265 00:20:02,250 --> 00:20:06,330 Speaker 1: John Booth's leg is shattered. Another man's been shot in 266 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:10,250 Speaker 1: the chest. He's lying on the ground struggling for breath. 267 00:20:11,370 --> 00:20:18,490 Speaker 1: Mella has no choice but to leave them inside the mill. 268 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:23,290 Speaker 1: Silence falls except for the moans of the injured men 269 00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:27,930 Speaker 1: in the yard. Outside. Cartwright checks on his workers and 270 00:20:28,010 --> 00:20:33,370 Speaker 1: borrowed soldiers. Not one has been hurt. The defense he 271 00:20:33,370 --> 00:20:39,450 Speaker 1: had planned so carefully has worked exactly as intended, except, 272 00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:43,210 Speaker 1: of course, for that soldier who refused to shoot. They'll 273 00:20:43,210 --> 00:20:48,210 Speaker 1: deal with him later. What to do about the injured attackers, 274 00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:52,650 Speaker 1: It might be a trap. I'm not opening that door, 275 00:20:52,810 --> 00:21:00,170 Speaker 1: says Cartwright until the reinforcements arrive. Soon they do, and 276 00:21:00,250 --> 00:21:03,770 Speaker 1: so do other local people. They gather around the two 277 00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:09,450 Speaker 1: injured men. John Booth is writhing in agony, blood rushing 278 00:21:09,530 --> 00:21:12,810 Speaker 1: from his leg. The other man is choking on the 279 00:21:12,850 --> 00:21:17,170 Speaker 1: blood from his chest wound. Help me breathe, he says, 280 00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:22,890 Speaker 1: Lift up my head. Cartwright opens the mill's door and 281 00:21:23,010 --> 00:21:26,890 Speaker 1: strides over. He recognizes the man who's been shot in 282 00:21:26,890 --> 00:21:29,290 Speaker 1: the chest. The man used to work for him as 283 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:32,810 Speaker 1: a cropper before the machines came in. If you want 284 00:21:32,850 --> 00:21:35,570 Speaker 1: us to help you, says Cartwright, tell me who's your leader. 285 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:40,690 Speaker 1: One of the locals decides to ignore Cartwright he lifts 286 00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:44,490 Speaker 1: the head of the wounded man, another puts a glass 287 00:21:44,530 --> 00:21:49,330 Speaker 1: of water to his lips. The growing crowd murmur their approval, 288 00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:53,970 Speaker 1: and Cartwright understands that he isn't out of danger yet. 289 00:21:55,170 --> 00:21:57,730 Speaker 1: Take the two men to the inn, he says, we'll 290 00:21:57,730 --> 00:22:02,330 Speaker 1: care for them there, but both men die. It's later 291 00:22:02,450 --> 00:22:05,570 Speaker 1: rumored they were tortured to try to get them to 292 00:22:05,570 --> 00:22:09,490 Speaker 1: give up the names of the local Luodite leaders. John 293 00:22:09,530 --> 00:22:15,410 Speaker 1: Booth's supposed last words become legend. He calls over the priest, 294 00:22:16,090 --> 00:22:20,650 Speaker 1: a well known friend of Cartwright. Can you keep a secret, 295 00:22:21,330 --> 00:22:26,850 Speaker 1: he asks? I can, says the priest. So can I marry? 296 00:22:27,770 --> 00:22:34,570 Speaker 1: Says John Booth. Thousands of people gather for John Booth's funeral. 297 00:22:35,330 --> 00:22:38,770 Speaker 1: On the doors of local houses, a message is chalked 298 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:49,170 Speaker 1: vengeance for the blood of the innocent. Cautionary tales will 299 00:22:49,210 --> 00:23:07,530 Speaker 1: be back after the break. Economists have coined the phrase 300 00:23:08,050 --> 00:23:13,170 Speaker 1: Luodite fallacy to describe the mistaken belief that technological progress 301 00:23:13,410 --> 00:23:17,370 Speaker 1: is bad for working people. It's bad for particular workers. 302 00:23:17,410 --> 00:23:21,770 Speaker 1: To be sure, machines do displace certain jobs, but the 303 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:25,290 Speaker 1: story of economic progress is that new jobs have always 304 00:23:25,330 --> 00:23:28,450 Speaker 1: come along to replace them, and those new jobs have 305 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:33,130 Speaker 1: tended to be more productive and better paid. The problem 306 00:23:33,330 --> 00:23:37,650 Speaker 1: is that those better jobs don't necessarily appear straight away. 307 00:23:38,850 --> 00:23:43,050 Speaker 1: In their book Power and Progress, the economists dare An 308 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:47,410 Speaker 1: Assamoglu and Simon Johnson describe how it took a century 309 00:23:47,570 --> 00:23:51,490 Speaker 1: for the inventions of the Industrial Revolution to translate into 310 00:23:51,610 --> 00:23:56,850 Speaker 1: higher wages and improve working conditions for ordinary people. The 311 00:23:56,890 --> 00:24:01,250 Speaker 1: new machines created wealth quickly, but that wealth accrued to 312 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:07,490 Speaker 1: their owners, people like William Cartwright. This had happened before, 313 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:13,650 Speaker 1: say Assmoglu and Johnson. In medieval Europe. Advances in agriculture 314 00:24:13,890 --> 00:24:19,610 Speaker 1: created new wealth that funded magnificent cathedrals but didn't improve 315 00:24:19,650 --> 00:24:23,730 Speaker 1: the lives of peasants at all. And it's happening again now, 316 00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:29,130 Speaker 1: they say. Digital technologies are giving us new billionaires, but 317 00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:35,410 Speaker 1: shared prosperity not so much. In many rich countries, wages 318 00:24:35,490 --> 00:24:38,890 Speaker 1: for typical workers have been growing much more slowly than 319 00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:42,450 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. If they've been 320 00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:47,050 Speaker 1: growing at all, perhaps then we can sympathize with the 321 00:24:47,130 --> 00:24:51,970 Speaker 1: luddite croppers. They were facing all the immediate costs of 322 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:56,930 Speaker 1: new technology, while the uncertain benefits lay decades in the future. 323 00:24:57,970 --> 00:25:01,450 Speaker 1: No wonder some risked and early death to try to 324 00:25:01,490 --> 00:25:07,530 Speaker 1: prolong the status quo. Even some wealthy aristocrats sympathized at 325 00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:11,730 Speaker 1: the time, such as the poet Lord Byron, who spoke 326 00:25:11,770 --> 00:25:14,370 Speaker 1: out against the government's bill to bring in the death 327 00:25:14,450 --> 00:25:21,010 Speaker 1: penalty for machine breaking. The excesses of the Luddites, said Byron, however, 328 00:25:21,170 --> 00:25:25,570 Speaker 1: to be deplored and condemned can hardly be a matter 329 00:25:25,610 --> 00:25:31,890 Speaker 1: of surprise. A week after the attack on his mill, 330 00:25:32,530 --> 00:25:36,890 Speaker 1: William Cartwright rides to the town of Huddersfield. He has 331 00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:39,770 Speaker 1: to give evidence at the court martial of the soldier 332 00:25:39,850 --> 00:25:43,690 Speaker 1: who had refused to shoot at the Luddite attackers. The 333 00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:47,730 Speaker 1: regiment's commanders greeked him warmly. It's not easy for the 334 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:50,450 Speaker 1: army to deal with the Luddites, they say, when the 335 00:25:50,490 --> 00:25:53,850 Speaker 1: mill owners keep giving in to them. What a pleasure 336 00:25:53,890 --> 00:25:55,890 Speaker 1: it is to find a man who will fight to 337 00:25:55,970 --> 00:26:01,170 Speaker 1: defend his property and the law. Another local mill owner 338 00:26:01,290 --> 00:26:06,450 Speaker 1: congratulates Cartwright too, William Horsefall, the man who'd installed a 339 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:09,250 Speaker 1: cannon at his mill and said he'd ride up up 340 00:26:09,290 --> 00:26:14,050 Speaker 1: to his saddlegirths in Luddite blood. The court martial is 341 00:26:14,130 --> 00:26:19,250 Speaker 1: over quickly. Cartwright gives his evidence. The soldier makes no defense. 342 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:27,690 Speaker 1: The sentence is pasted three hundred lashes, three hundred. Cartwright 343 00:26:27,970 --> 00:26:31,250 Speaker 1: mounts his horse again to ride the eight miles home. 344 00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:35,850 Speaker 1: As he passes a woodland, a pistol fires from behind 345 00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:40,210 Speaker 1: a tree. The bullet flies past him. His horse rears 346 00:26:40,210 --> 00:26:45,050 Speaker 1: and bolts. Another shot brings out another miss. Cartwright gallops home. 347 00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:50,890 Speaker 1: There he finds, to his horror that the soldier's punishment 348 00:26:51,130 --> 00:26:55,610 Speaker 1: is going to happen right outside his mill. A crowd 349 00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:59,970 Speaker 1: of hundreds gather to watch as the soldier's hands are tied, 350 00:27:00,690 --> 00:27:05,490 Speaker 1: his back is bared. After just a few lashes, the 351 00:27:05,530 --> 00:27:10,730 Speaker 1: skin is broken. Soon the width is cutting flesh, and 352 00:27:10,890 --> 00:27:15,690 Speaker 1: the crowd is getting restive. Cartwright pushes through them and 353 00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:18,850 Speaker 1: speaks to the officer in command. Enough now, he says, 354 00:27:19,210 --> 00:27:23,170 Speaker 1: can't we leave it at that? The officer ignores him. 355 00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:26,010 Speaker 1: Carry on, he says to the man with a whip. 356 00:27:26,890 --> 00:27:32,530 Speaker 1: Another lash, another, and another, for only twenty lashes in 357 00:27:33,490 --> 00:27:37,890 Speaker 1: it's clear the soldier will die long before three hundred. 358 00:27:38,850 --> 00:27:42,810 Speaker 1: In fact, he seems to have passed out already. A 359 00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:46,810 Speaker 1: doctor checks his pulse and nods to the officer in command. 360 00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:52,970 Speaker 1: The lashing resumes. People cry out and jostle forward. The 361 00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:58,450 Speaker 1: crowd seems on the verge of a riot. Cartwright tries again, 362 00:27:58,930 --> 00:28:03,850 Speaker 1: stop there, you have to stop. Cartwright must sense he's 363 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:06,050 Speaker 1: pleading for his own life as much as for that 364 00:28:06,130 --> 00:28:11,330 Speaker 1: of the soldier, and perhaps the officer understands, because this 365 00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:16,850 Speaker 1: time he nods. The soldier's hands are untied and he's 366 00:28:16,930 --> 00:28:24,770 Speaker 1: led away. The crowd calms down. William Cartwright breathes again. 367 00:28:25,530 --> 00:28:31,490 Speaker 1: He's narrowly escaped being shot and then being lynched. You 368 00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:36,330 Speaker 1: might expect his fellow mill owner, William Horseful, to decide 369 00:28:36,370 --> 00:28:40,010 Speaker 1: to keep a low profile for a while. Not a 370 00:28:40,050 --> 00:28:46,530 Speaker 1: bit of it. Horseful keeps loudly denouncing the Luddites. Every week, 371 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:51,850 Speaker 1: Horsefull rides into Huddersfield on business. His routine is well known. 372 00:28:52,610 --> 00:28:56,490 Speaker 1: At six o'clock he sets off for home. He never 373 00:28:56,650 --> 00:29:01,810 Speaker 1: rides quickly, and then as he passes a woodland, an 374 00:29:01,930 --> 00:29:08,890 Speaker 1: unseen marksman takes aim a bullet rips into Horsefull's flesh. 375 00:29:09,210 --> 00:29:12,850 Speaker 1: He slumps forward and grabs onto his horse's neck. Blood 376 00:29:13,090 --> 00:29:18,210 Speaker 1: starts spurting from his leg. Forceful falls off his horse. 377 00:29:19,850 --> 00:29:22,330 Speaker 1: Passers by help him back to the inn and call 378 00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:27,050 Speaker 1: a doctor. Horseful has been shot in the stomach and thigh. 379 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:33,290 Speaker 1: One bullet has cut an artery. He's bleeding profusely. What's 380 00:29:33,290 --> 00:29:38,530 Speaker 1: your opinion, doctor asked the injured man. Indeed, mister Horsefall, 381 00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:43,170 Speaker 1: I consider you in a very dangerous state. These are 382 00:29:43,290 --> 00:29:51,130 Speaker 1: awful times. Doctor Horseful dies soon after news of his 383 00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:54,970 Speaker 1: death gets back to the cropping shop where George Meller works. 384 00:29:55,850 --> 00:29:59,570 Speaker 1: It comes with other news too, a reward of two 385 00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:07,890 Speaker 1: thousand pounds for information about the assassin, a fortune. George 386 00:30:07,890 --> 00:30:13,130 Speaker 1: Meller knows very well who shot William Horsefall, and he 387 00:30:13,210 --> 00:30:17,530 Speaker 1: knows that all his friends know it too. If I thought, 388 00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:22,050 Speaker 1: says Meller, there was one man who would whisper a 389 00:30:22,130 --> 00:30:29,970 Speaker 1: single word, this day would be his last. It's hard, 390 00:30:30,330 --> 00:30:33,730 Speaker 1: as I said, not to feel some sympathy with the 391 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:38,410 Speaker 1: luddite croppers. But then I find it hard not to 392 00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:43,570 Speaker 1: sympathize with the mill owners too. William Cartwright and William 393 00:30:43,570 --> 00:30:47,610 Speaker 1: Horsefall were stubborn, but they weren't bad men. They were 394 00:30:47,650 --> 00:30:52,810 Speaker 1: seen as fair employers. Their workers liked them. Yet Cartwright 395 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:56,690 Speaker 1: and Horsefull could hardly ignore the fact that new machines 396 00:30:56,730 --> 00:31:00,530 Speaker 1: could finish cloth more cheaply than human workers. If they 397 00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:05,330 Speaker 1: didn't use those new machines, someone somewhere would, and they'd 398 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:09,370 Speaker 1: soon be out competed. Both the croppers and the mill 399 00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:15,130 Speaker 1: owners were trapped by the same economic system. The parallels 400 00:31:15,170 --> 00:31:20,410 Speaker 1: with today's economic system are all too obvious. Skilled workers 401 00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:24,650 Speaker 1: in high status jobs find that robots or algorithms can 402 00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:27,770 Speaker 1: do their work as well as they can, or well enough, 403 00:31:28,130 --> 00:31:33,130 Speaker 1: and much more quickly. Technologists may have some qualms about 404 00:31:33,170 --> 00:31:37,130 Speaker 1: the impacts of the tech they're developing, but they tell themselves, 405 00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:43,850 Speaker 1: if I don't do it, someone else will. The author 406 00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:48,610 Speaker 1: Brian Merchant explores these parallels in his new book Blood 407 00:31:48,810 --> 00:31:53,090 Speaker 1: in the Machine, think about policy proposals to respond to 408 00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:55,850 Speaker 1: the rise of big tech. He says, such as a 409 00:31:55,930 --> 00:32:01,170 Speaker 1: robot tax or a universal basic income. Such ideas seem new, 410 00:32:01,450 --> 00:32:04,890 Speaker 1: but they're in the same tradition as those old proposals 411 00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:08,530 Speaker 1: for a tax on cloth made by machine to keep 412 00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:16,770 Speaker 1: the unemployoid croppers from starvation. Those old proposals failed. In 413 00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:21,090 Speaker 1: their book Power and Progress, the economists Darren Asimoglu and 414 00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:24,610 Speaker 1: Simon Johnson ask why it took so long for the 415 00:32:24,650 --> 00:32:29,050 Speaker 1: wealth creating machines of the industrial evolution to benefit people 416 00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:33,810 Speaker 1: more widely through higher wages, better working conditions or social 417 00:32:33,850 --> 00:32:39,330 Speaker 1: safety nets. Their answer, it happened only when workers and 418 00:32:39,410 --> 00:32:44,090 Speaker 1: citizens found new ways to organize through trade unions and 419 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:48,970 Speaker 1: political parties, to force the gains from technological progress to 420 00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:54,490 Speaker 1: be more equitably shared. Today, they argue, we need to 421 00:32:54,490 --> 00:33:01,690 Speaker 1: do the same again. The thought of a two thousand 422 00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:06,530 Speaker 1: pounds reward proved too much for one of George Meller's 423 00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:13,770 Speaker 1: fellow croppers was arrested, tried, and convicted of the murder 424 00:33:13,930 --> 00:33:18,410 Speaker 1: of William Horsefall. He was sentenced to death by hanging. 425 00:33:20,290 --> 00:33:24,370 Speaker 1: Five other men were condemned to be hanged too, not 426 00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:27,530 Speaker 1: for killing anyone, but for their part in the attack 427 00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:34,890 Speaker 1: on William Cartwright's mill. The crackdown worked. As the historian E. P. 428 00:33:35,090 --> 00:33:42,610 Speaker 1: Thompson puts it, Luddism ended on the scaffold. In January 429 00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:48,050 Speaker 1: eighteen thirteen, Mella stood on a wooden platform, a rope 430 00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:52,210 Speaker 1: around his neck. Some of my enemies may be here, 431 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:56,490 Speaker 1: said Mella. If there be, I freely forgive them and 432 00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:59,610 Speaker 1: all the world, and I hope the world will forgive me. 433 00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:06,570 Speaker 1: Luddism ended on the scaffold. But the words of the 434 00:34:06,610 --> 00:34:13,730 Speaker 1: young apprentice saddlemaker on booth live on new Machines might 435 00:34:13,850 --> 00:34:19,410 Speaker 1: be man's chief blessing instead of his curse. If society 436 00:34:19,690 --> 00:34:27,610 Speaker 1: was differently constituted, quite so, but George Meller's response also 437 00:34:27,890 --> 00:35:01,250 Speaker 1: echoes down the years if if IF. For a list 438 00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:04,250 Speaker 1: of the sources used in this episode, please see the 439 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:12,210 Speaker 1: show notes at Timharford dot com. 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