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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by bet MGM. I am your host

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris and you can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris Ady. Somehow, by the time you are listening

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Speaker 1: to this, week fifteen of the NFL season is going

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Speaker 1: to be over, which means it's time to start taking

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Speaker 1: an early look at Week sixteen's lines. With me today

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Speaker 1: to break it all down. As Dave Cochin, a longtime

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas handicapper and host of the LV Sports Line.

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Speaker 1: You can find him on Twitter at Dave cokein Dave,

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Speaker 1: how you doing good?

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to the last couple of weeks of the

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Speaker 2: regular season and then the playoffs. It's a fun time

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Speaker 2: of year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really crazy. I can't believe how fast the

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Speaker 1: NFL season goes now. Dave appeared on our show several

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and from the feedback we got from the

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Speaker 1: listeners and frankly, Mike, I couldn't agree more with this.

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Speaker 1: Everyone thought that your insight was outstanding. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm putting too much pressure on you when I tell

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Speaker 1: you that. I think everybody is in for treat today

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Speaker 1: to hear Dave's takes on all of the opening lines. Now,

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Speaker 1: the lines that we're going to be using here are

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Speaker 1: the consensus odds over at bettingpros dot com. That is

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Speaker 1: the aggregate of what you're going to see across most

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Speaker 1: of the markets, especially online. All right, Dave, let's dive

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Speaker 1: right in here. Let's start here. We've got three Saturday

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Speaker 1: games this week. Let's start with the first one, the

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Speaker 1: Texans at the Bucks. The line here has moved all

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Speaker 1: the way to Texans minus three. When I first looked

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Speaker 1: at it, it was Texans minus one. But right now

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Speaker 1: they're laying three with a total that's down a bit

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Speaker 1: from the opener of fifty three to fifty one and

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Speaker 1: a half. The Texans beat the Titans yesterday in a

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Speaker 1: game that they controlled pretty well. They turned the ball

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Speaker 1: over twice deep in Titans territory, so they easily could

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Speaker 1: have run but one by more. Division very much still

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Speaker 1: in play here, though, so they need to keep winning. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Bucks win big against the Lions. Jameis Winston throws

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Speaker 1: for the second straight game. The defense continues to play better,

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Speaker 1: but most likely part of The reason why you've seen

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Speaker 1: the line move in favor of the Texans and the

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Speaker 1: total come down is that the Bucks are down both

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Speaker 1: of their top two wide receivers at this point. Neither

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Speaker 1: They may also be down Scottie Miller, so they're really hurt.

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Speaker 1: There any thoughts here on the Texans laying three in

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Speaker 1: the total at fifty one and a half, Well, I

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Speaker 2: The spot for Houston for the simple reason that you know,

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Speaker 2: they're coming off this big win against Tennessee and then

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Speaker 2: they've got the rematch next week, and you know, you

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Speaker 2: want to talk about a sandwich, this is it. And

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Speaker 2: it's not like the Bucks have rolled over and decided

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Speaker 2: to play dead. They're seven and seven, they've got a

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Speaker 2: chance for a winning season, and they've got a lot

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Speaker 2: of momentum right now. Obviously, the receiving situation is not great,

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Speaker 2: and the defense for Tampa Bay is not great, but

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Speaker 2: it's one of those spots. And listen, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a common theme that you'll hear from me

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Speaker 2: throughout this broadcast. Betters and analysts have a tendency to

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Speaker 2: look at the last two weeks and automatically say, well,

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Speaker 2: this is a contender playing a team that's not involved

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Speaker 2: contender because it's more important to them. But if you

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Speaker 2: look at the records over the years, you've done a

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Speaker 2: lot better taking the non contenders against the contenders. Then

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Speaker 2: you have the opposite. The odds makers adjust to this,

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Speaker 2: and I think this is a good example. Houston biggest

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sharpetters have been hitting Tampa Bay pretty hard over

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Speaker 1: the past you know, six or seven weeks. They're a

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Speaker 1: They were dug in by you know, James Winston throwing

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Speaker 2: Oh, and they also got completely robbed out of a

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, And you know you mentioned it with the

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Speaker 1: bad spot for the Texans. You know, you think about

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Speaker 1: Bucks despite all their injuries at wide receiver. Let's move

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Speaker 1: on here to the Bills at the Patriots. Patriots right

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Speaker 1: now laying six with a pretty low total of thirty

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Speaker 1: But you know the Bills, look, they continue to play well,

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Speaker 1: They've got a shot at the division if they can

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Speaker 2: Well, if you want to lay it with the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: you better do it in Aharri because this game will not,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, will not end up at six. I

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Speaker 2: think it'll tick back up. I know the early money

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Speaker 2: It's worked for so long. Maybe this is the year

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Speaker 2: it doesn't. It's not like the Patriots have been blazing

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Speaker 2: the first half of that football game. But push comes

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Speaker 2: England at Belichick and Brady in Foxborough. And it is

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Speaker 2: England will probably end up getting some public support here,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be really an interesting breakdown because I

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Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens. But you think that the

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Speaker 2: I think it's six. Yeah, I think it finishes. I

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Speaker 1: All right, So if you like the Pats, you might

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Speaker 1: laying six and a half and the total at forty

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers lose a game, they drop from the

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Speaker 1: first seed to the fifth seed. With the loss to

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Speaker 1: After the spread in that game had moved I don't know,

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Speaker 2: look at San Francisco here and say, well, the Rams

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Speaker 2: But boy, I wouldn't want to lay this kind of

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. I can see the Rams making

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Speaker 2: Francisco with all the injuries, it's tough to back them here.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's face it, the Seattle game is bigger

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Speaker 2: next week, if you want to say it that way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Six and a half to me is

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Speaker 2: too much, and I think it'll go higher than that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I'll actually bet the Rams, but

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Speaker 2: that number is going to keep me away from from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a game that I feel like you

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Speaker 1: And you know, I agree with you. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're going to need motivation to get up for a

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Speaker 1: everybody was watching because it's against the Cowboys. You know,

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Speaker 1: America's team and the forty nine ers. They have had

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Speaker 1: Ravens was really hard hitting. The Saints, they just beat

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking lost Atlanta. So of course the Niners are gonna

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Speaker 1: at this point, it's really difficult to take the Niners

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's safe to say that of all

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Speaker 1: They're a bunch by the way, this week, right I

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Speaker 2: The early money has definitely been on Cincinnati. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's not much to choose. Both teams will try hard

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be played like an exhibition game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's also possible that Aj Green is gonna

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Speaker 1: I doubt it's going to be a game that's going

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Speaker 1: This one probably will though. The Saints at the Titans.

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Speaker 1: we don't really have anything to take away from this

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Speaker 2: The Saints are if they win tonight, they're very much

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have more reason to play, or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: at least as much reason to play as Tennessee. But

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Speaker 2: it's still a situation where the Saints have clinched their playoffs,

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, even if they have a better

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, you know, because you mentioned

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Speaker 1: don't think that motivates the players as much as the

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Speaker 2: Just the reality is it doesn't. I mean, it sounds

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Speaker 2: know that doesn't make sense. It's like, well, but they've

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Speaker 2: It doesn't work out that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: And again the time, if sports betting was all about logic,

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Speaker 1: I mean there are so many times where you think

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Speaker 1: All right, Dave, let's move on here to the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been great for the Steelers if

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Speaker 2: And I don't want the Jets. I know they're five

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Speaker 2: And I think the Steelers will come prepared here. They

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Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh can do enough offensively here and play

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Speaker 2: Late? If it does, all right, Yeah, I think it'll

433
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Speaker 2: sit most of the week. I you know, it's the

434
00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 2: books don't like to move off key numbers anyway, right,

435
00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,800
Speaker 2: And but I think it eventually. I don't think it's

436
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,320
Speaker 2: gonna drop, so we'll see. I mean, I'm looking at

437
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Speaker 2: my screen right now. It is possible. I guess that

438
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 2: some early number money might come on the Jets, but

439
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,640
Speaker 2: I think all that does is keep it from going

440
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 2: to three and a half.

441
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly, I would be surprised. I would expect,

442
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 1: just looking at it from a ten thousand foot view,

443
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,520
Speaker 1: that the public's gonna hammer hammer the Steelers right at

444
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,480
Speaker 1: this point of course. For me, I'll be honest, Dave,

445
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't you know. Look, I'm a Jets fan. I'm

446
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,440
Speaker 1: naturally pessimistic about the team. They're not a particularly good team,

447
00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily think this is a terrible match

448
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,719
Speaker 1: for them. I mean, I think that the offense showed

449
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: a little something more than I expected against the Ravens

450
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,240
Speaker 1: in this last game. They could have put up more

451
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 1: points that they not had a couple of killer random turnovers.

452
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 1: They have a good run defense here, and the Steelers

453
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,119
Speaker 1: really need to focus through the run because Doc Coagas

454
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: is not really getting it done through the pass. They're

455
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 1: on like the mini buy. So it's not a spot

456
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Speaker 1: I won't like you. I don't want to back the

457
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,400
Speaker 1: Jets at all, but I don't really feel great about

458
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers laying three, and if it gets above three,

459
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,199
Speaker 1: I don't know. I certainly don't want to take them.

460
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna get below three. So if

461
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 1: they move off the key number of anything, I could

462
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: see myself being tempted to take the Jets at more

463
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,959
Speaker 1: than the field goal. But I'm not excited about him.

464
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: If I were getting involved in this, I might love

465
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Speaker 2: to tease the Jets up. Yeah, Pittsburgh's not blowing teams out, Okay,

466
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 2: the Steelers are doing enough to win, and Tomlin's an

467
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 2: excellent coach, And that's kind of the way I look

468
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,360
Speaker 2: at this game. But you know, a six point teaser,

469
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 2: you get to go it up to nine. That's not

470
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Speaker 2: too the Jets.

471
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, you always run the risk of Sam Darnold

472
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,679
Speaker 1: throwing the killer intercessions, you know, a defensive score. But

473
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: I agree, And that's kind of what our guest last

474
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 1: week said about the Bills, you know, and the Steelers,

475
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: that really the play was to tease the Bills up

476
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 1: because whatever happened, it was seemed unlikely that the Steelers

477
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: were going to be able to pull out, you know,

478
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 1: a nine point win or something like that. Let's move

479
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Speaker 1: on to the Ravens and the Browns, where one of

480
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Speaker 1: the teams may pretty easily pull off a nine point win.

481
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Speaker 1: And that's the Ravens laying ten with a total at

482
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Speaker 1: forty nine. Revenge game for the Ravens here they gave

483
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Speaker 1: up I believe, more than forty points to the Browns

484
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: in their first meeting. This line has been creeping up,

485
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, since it opened. The Ravens have a chance

486
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Speaker 1: to clinch the top seed. They look borderline unstoppable at

487
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: this point, especially offensively. The Browns are in a borderline

488
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: rebellion status.

489
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: That it's not borderline.

490
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: There's all sorts of reports of players who want out.

491
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is hurt, Mayfield is playing terribly. Everybody wants

492
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 1: Kitchen fired. They cannot stop the run. So I mean,

493
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Speaker 1: what do you do here? It's a big line, Ravens

494
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 1: laying ten with a total forty nine.

495
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 2: So here's here's the way to look at this game.

496
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: And there's there's several things here. And even though it's

497
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: a big number, I think Baltimore's the side here. The

498
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: Browns are a complete mess right now. Kitchens is not

499
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 2: going to be coaching the team next year. If they'll

500
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: get in, they're probably gonna get in a bidding war

501
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 2: with Dallas for the services of Lincoln Riley, who I

502
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 2: think will be moving from Oklahoma to the NFL. You've

503
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 2: got the revenge factor. You've also got this with John Harbaugh.

504
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: He likes to win everything. He's the best preseason coach

505
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I mean, you just automatically back Harbor,

506
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: not Jim, but John in preseason NFL games and you

507
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 2: just pick up the money after the game. It's he

508
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: always plays to win, even in games that don't much matter.

509
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: So even if you look at this game and said, well,

510
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: you know, the Ravens are as about as safe as

511
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna get at twelve and two, and there's no

512
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 2: reason for them to you know, be all out in

513
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: this game, they will be. In my opinion, I think

514
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 2: they want to kill the Browns if they can. And

515
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you something, ten to me is not

516
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: extraordinarily expensive. I would look at the favorite.

517
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Speaker 1: Here, I completely agree with you and get in now.

518
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: I think because the line, I think is just continuing

519
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: to go up. I mean, I think it was eight

520
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: and a half when I saw it open. It's just

521
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: going to continue to rise. Yeah, I agree. I don't

522
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: really care who the opponent is right now. The way

523
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: that team looks, it's just it's really difficult to see

524
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: any defense slowing them down whatsoever. It's certainly not the Browns,

525
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: certainly not a team in disarray like them. It's going

526
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: to just be I agree. I mean, you saw it

527
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: against the Jets. They just you know, it's it's like

528
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: you know, playing pitch and cash basically, you know, at

529
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 1: a flag football game with your kids or something like that.

530
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: It really looks like easy.

531
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: So it's Harbor is the opposite of most coaches who

532
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: and that's why I'm not I know everybody's saying, well,

533
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: it's Lamar Jackson week seventeen. He might have to be

534
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: forced at gunpoint to do that because Harbo doesn't like

535
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: to lose anything. And I think maybe common sense says, well,

536
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: we have to sit him in week seventeen just to

537
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: be safe. But I'd never count on it. Bah. He's

538
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: got this team wired and so they want to win

539
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: every game and they want to win big too.

540
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, it's a great point about Harbaugh. So you know,

541
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you. The number ten. I think it's

542
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: going to keep getting up, so you know, if you

543
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: want him get in. Now let's move on to the Panthers.

544
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: At the Colts. Colts, he are laying a touchdown with

545
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: the total at forty six and a half. Again, we

546
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: have not yet seen the Colts, so you know there

547
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: could be under his t Y Hilton was active for

548
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: this game tonight. You know, I don't know if he's

549
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: going to make it all the way through it, but

550
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: that's certainly if he does, botes well for him to

551
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: play next week. But we do know on the other

552
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: side that will Greer is going to take over as

553
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: the as the starting quarterback. You know, they you know,

554
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen has really been struggling of late. You know,

555
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: they tried to come back against the Steelers, but against

556
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, but you know, he really was in the

557
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: cards and he just has not played well for a while. Defensively,

558
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: they've just kind of mailed it in at this point,

559
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: they're the worst team in the league at stopping the runs.

560
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: How do you feel here about the Colts lank seven

561
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: with the total at forty six?

562
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I got to know who's playing for the Colts,

563
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: but all I can tell you is Will Greer did

564
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: not like he had any idea of what was going

565
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: on in the preseason. He was he was pretty bad,

566
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: and in fact, that's why when Cam Newton went down.

567
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, even though Greer was Greer is the more

568
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: highly regarded of their quarterback prospects, he never even got

569
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: a sniff and I just, well, I'll have to see

570
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: that the game has slowed down for him a little bit,

571
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: because in preseason it looked like it was way too

572
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: fast for Greer and if that's the case, he could

573
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: be a nightmare here.

574
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't see any scenario where I backed the

575
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: Panthers in this game, you know, I don't. I don't

576
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: love right now the Colts playing a touchdown. It was

577
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: six and a half before Gear was named the starter.

578
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's why it moved, but it moved.

579
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: So if anything, I guess i'd look at the Colts.

580
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I think Frank Reich is a great coach. I think

581
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: they'll continue to play hard, even though you know, depending

582
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: on what happens to night, they could be completely out

583
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: of playoff contention. Either way, their chances is going.

584
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: To be like five percent, yeah, something dead anyway.

585
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're gonna play hard, I think, continually, because

586
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: that's that's what you do under a good coach. So

587
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: I would lean towards the Colts. With seven's kind of

588
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: a big number, So I'll wait and see on that.

589
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Jaguars at the Falcons. Falcons

590
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: here laying six and a half with the total of

591
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: forty five and a half. Falcons come up with a

592
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: huge win against the forty nine ers. They continue, you know,

593
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: to show a lot of fight even though their season's

594
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: been over for several weeks, and especially as their offensive

595
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: line has finally gotten a little bit healthier. The Jaguars, meanwhile,

596
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: somehow managed to beat their Raiders in a game that

597
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 1: Oakland looked like they could have won by forty if

598
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: they were inclined for the vast majority of it. Their

599
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: defense has really just looked entirely beatable for several weeks

600
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: at this point. So how do you feel here about

601
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: the Falcons lank six and a half with the total

602
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: forty five and a half.

603
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll be I'm pretty sure about this.

604
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: By the time this year is you will not be

605
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: able to lay six and a half. This line's going

606
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: to go up. I think it will go through seven

607
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: and we'll get the seven and a half. The Falcons

608
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: are playing very hard. They want Dan Quinn to remain

609
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: as head coach. I think Otthor Blake wants to keep

610
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: Quinn on as head coach, and if this team can

611
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: win out and get to seven and nine, Quinn will

612
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: be back as the head coach. You contrast that with

613
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville team, where I really don't see much chance

614
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: that Marone's gonna be back. The team was four and four.

615
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: They've gone really bad down the stretch and I don't know,

616
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: Maron just doesn't. He doesn't impress me as a guy

617
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 2: who's a real good NFL head coach. I think this

618
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: is all Falcons. And in terms of value, listen, if

619
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: you can get a cheap number on it, grab it.

620
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: At worst you'll be able to middle the game and

621
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: the key number. But I would definitely say at six

622
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: and a half, if there's any out there, take it

623
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: minus six and a half. And I would still like

624
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: the Falcons at minus seven.

625
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, under no circumstances, can you really I mean, I

626
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: know they not only covered but one against the Raiders,

627
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: but under no circumstances can you back the Jaguars DJ

628
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: Trunk maybe back in this game. By the way, there's

629
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: some early positive reports, but it doesn't really matter. Again,

630
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot about the defense. And as you mentioned it,

631
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: Moron is I mean, he's almost guaranteed to be gone

632
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: right next season. That the team does not look to

633
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: be playing hard, and like you mentioned, somehow the Falcons,

634
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: who looked completely dead in the water and lifeless you

635
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: know before thereby have really come out and played exceptionally

636
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: hard on both sides of the ball, even without Calvin

637
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: Ridley this past week, So I agree with you. I

638
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: like the Falcons, you know, I'd like it under the

639
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: touchdown if you can get it. But I agree with you.

640
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: Even over the touchdown, I'm fine to lay the points.

641
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the Raiders at the Chargers, another

642
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: game that will probably not be all that heavily bet.

643
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: The Chargers currently laying five and a half the over

644
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: under at forty seven, so I'm not sure how you

645
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: bet either one of these teams with any semblance of confidence.

646
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: The Raiders give away the game to the Jaguars. The

647
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: Chargers put up one of the worst offensive performances in

648
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: recent memory against the Vikings. They turned the ball over

649
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: six times. Philip Rivers has been struggling all year. What

650
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: do you do with a game like this where the

651
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: Chargers are laying five and a half with the total

652
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: forty seven.

653
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: I'd look at the Oakland side and I know they

654
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: are a team on a bad losing streak at this point,

655
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: and you know, look, it was like a funeral in

656
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: the second. This is what happens, and it's happened many

657
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: so many times over the years. I'm talking with somebody

658
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: about the last game at Texas Stadium earlier today, and

659
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: I went back and reflected on some of the games

660
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: from my younger days, old basketball courts that were, you know,

661
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: closing up when a team was going to be moving

662
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: to a new location, and the thought process is, well,

663
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: you know, this is the last game, and they're really

664
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: going to want to win this last game. And sometimes

665
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: it plays out that way early, but at some point

666
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: it just seems like it becomes more of a funeral

667
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: than a celebration. And I thought that's what happened to

668
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Oakland on Sunday. I looked it was exciting early on.

669
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Everybody was in a good mood, and the time by

670
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: the time second half rolled around, the place was already dead.

671
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: It was like the reality was setting in that this

672
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: is it. They're done here, They're not playing anymore. And

673
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: I thought the Raiders kind of ended up reflecting what

674
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: the crowd was fielding, and they just they just lost

675
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: their mojo in the second half and got beaten from

676
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: behind by a you know, pretty bad Jacksonville team. I

677
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: think the Raiders will be better off playing on the

678
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: road here, especially on a field where the Chargers. Look.

679
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: When I do my power ratings, I get the Chargers

680
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: zero for a home field advantage. Now that's that's unusual. Okay.

681
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: Most of the times they're giving, even with bad teams

682
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: a point and a half or two, and with some

683
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: of the better teams like a Kansas City or something

684
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: like that, maybe a four Chargers get a zero. There's

685
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: a lining to be more Raider fans at this game

686
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: than Charger fans, and I don't see much of a

687
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: difference between the teams. To be honest with the Chargers,

688
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: it's the end of the line for Philip Rivers. I

689
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: think they're gonna have to go and get a new quarterback.

690
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: In fact, I would not be shocked if you see

691
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: maybe some you might get the backup in in these

692
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: last two games because the Chargers have to realize that

693
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: it's over for Philip Rivers. Maybe you can latch on

694
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: someplace else. I don't I think he'll be back with

695
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: the Charges next year. I think ocup dumps to play

696
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: here and five and a half or six I would

697
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: look that way.

698
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it's a dead number, I certainly I

699
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: can't possibly feel good about the Chargers laying that many points.

700
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure that the Raiders are going

701
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: to win the game. But five and a half points,

702
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: that's too much in my opinion. The Chargers are, you know,

703
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: they're a weird team. I was shocked. I don't know

704
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: about you, Dave, when the Vikings were coming in. I

705
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: get that it was cross country and laying only two

706
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: and a half. I mean, I realized that was a

707
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: pretty public side. But you know, I felt like that

708
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: game where the Chargers beat the Packers, you know what

709
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, at home, where you seem sort of surprising.

710
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how you felt about that. To me,

711
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: that seemed like a crazy spread because the Chargers just

712
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: seem like they have completely moved on from this season,

713
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm a little surprised

714
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Speaker 1: that this line is as high as it is, but

715
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Speaker 1: at this number, I certainly lean towards the Raiders like

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Speaker 1: let's move on to another game that probably people won't

732
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Speaker 1: have too much interest in. The Lions at the Broncos.

733
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: Broncos lank six and a half low total here of

734
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half. Lions can't get anything done

735
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: against the Bucks with David Blau. They might get carry

736
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: On Johnson back in this game, but you know, maybe

737
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 1: that gives them a tiny bit of a boost offensively,

738
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: but that doesn't really help them defensively where they've struggled

739
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: across the board. The Broncos come off an abysmal performance

740
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in snowy Kansas, City rather than attack

741
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs on the ground is kind of the formula

742
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: as to what you want to do with them. The

743
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Broncos had Drew Lock throw the ball more than forty times,

744
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: predictable lack of success. So do you I mean, it's

745
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: a big number. How do you feel about the Broncos

746
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: lank six and a half with the total thirty seven

747
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: and a half.

748
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not playing the Lions and I'm not laying

749
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: a touchdown with the Broncos, So I yeh, that's about

750
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: where I am in this game. I can see, I

751
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: could see if people want to tease Denver down, I

752
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: couldn't argue with that. But aside from that, you know,

753
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: it's just this is just this is a throwaway game.

754
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a bunch of them. Again, as we mentioned.

755
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Broncos do come out on

756
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: top in this game, but I highly doubt that I'd

757
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: be willing to lay nearly a touchdown. It's just not

758
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: a game where you really want to get involved in

759
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: either of the teams. So let's get involved to a

760
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: game where you might want to get involved in either

761
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: of the teams, and that's the Cardinals. At the Seahawks.

762
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks laying nine and a half with the total of

763
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: fifty and a half. The Cardinals come up huge against

764
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: the Browns. Offensively, they look closer to the team we

765
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: kind of expected them to be in the preseason. Other than,

766
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: of course, Kenyan Drake scoring four touchdowns, which nobody really

767
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: hadn't mind. The Seahawks left the Panthers climb back into

768
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: that game and cover depending on where you got the line,

769
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: but they win that game pretty handily. They've been banged

770
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: up a bit defensively, but they just continue to find

771
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: ways to win games. They've got their first round by

772
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: and their sights as we mentioned, there's a number one

773
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: seed at the moment, they need to continue to win

774
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to hold off the forty nine ers. How do you

775
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: feel here about laying nine and a half of the

776
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: total of fifty and a half.

777
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: I have no interest in laying that number with Seattle,

778
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: which remains a team that wins close games and that's

779
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: why they're eleven and three. But they're not exactly a

780
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: team that blows anybody out, and the Cardinals are not

781
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: gonna just mail it in. The Cardinals have played hard

782
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: all season. They look they've got problems defensively, there's no

783
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: question about that. But this is a team that works

784
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: hard and they would love to go in and spoil

785
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: things for Seattle. And the Seahawks have got a much

786
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: bigger game next week. It's as simple as that. The

787
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: game against the forty nine ers is the real big

788
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: game for them. So I think it's a spot where

789
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: you're taking a big shot if you lay this kind

790
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: of number with Seattle to the Cardinals to Hank Tough

791
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: and I.

792
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Believe if the Seahawks lose this game, even if they lose,

793
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: they can still win the division if they beat the

794
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: forty nine ers next week. Is that right, right? Yeah,

795
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: So it's not a game. Again, we don't want to

796
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: talk too much about motivation because you know, things like

797
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that don't always come into play in the way you

798
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: might think it would. But in the end, yeah, you know,

799
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are going to be here. They It is

800
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: a game where you could easily see them looking past

801
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, wanting to make sure they don't take

802
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: too many risks. They did lose Josh Gordon. Now that

803
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: not that he's been a huge part of their offense

804
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: or anything, but he's been suspended again, so that's a

805
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: little bit of a debt. It's a big number, and

806
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: again they're not that good of a team. It's really

807
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson sort of working his magic. But I agree

808
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: that big spread would make me pretty nervous to even

809
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: be thinking about the Seahawks, even at home. Let's move

810
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: on to you know, this is another game where basically

811
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: the whole season for these two teams has been looking

812
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: at this game, the Cowboys at the Eagles. Cowboys are

813
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: laying two and a half with the total of forty

814
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: six and a half. Again, this is pretty much for

815
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: the NFC East. The look ahead was a pick them.

816
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: So it's now moved to Dallas laying two and a half.

817
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you expect that.

818
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: Keep moving, yeah, I do. This game's this game is

819
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: gonna get to three. Yeah. Uh. In fact, it's already juiced.

820
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at the West Gate. It's two and

821
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: a half minus one twenty. I'm looking at some La

822
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Vegas houses. Obviously it's uh, it's already juiced. So I

823
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: think it's getting to three. Look, it's it really is

824
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: as simple as this. Dallas has a really good offense.

825
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: The problem is it's been tremendously inefficient. So they've they've

826
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: piled up these yards, but they know one of the

827
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: NFL in yards, but they haven't scored the points to

828
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 2: reflect that. And that's just a matter of not being

829
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: able to finish off drives. And you know how, you

830
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: can blame it on Jason Garrett if you want, or whoever,

831
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: but they certainly they certainly did so on Sunday. And

832
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: that's a real feel good win for the Cowboys. I

833
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: think they're coming in with a head full esteem here,

834
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: whereas the Eagles that wasn't exactly a great showing against

835
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: the Redskins. They're healthier, Dallas is healthier. I think they're

836
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: better and I think they're gonna win the game. So,

837
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: you know, if it's two and a half, I don't

838
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: know if it makes my card or not because I'm

839
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: not a fan of the coach, let's put it that way.

840
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: But Dallas is a better team than Philadelphia. I don't

841
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: think there's much question about that. The two teams might

842
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: have the same record, but the Cowboys are the more

843
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: talented squad.

844
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't feel all that comfortable about

845
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: it because of Jason Garrett, as you sort of alluded

846
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: to very diplomatically, but yeah, it is something where I

847
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: jumped on it when I saw it was under a

848
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: field goal because it is going to get above a

849
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: field goal and you just, you know the Eagles, they're

850
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: like barely scraping by these teams. You know, I know

851
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: the final score forget about the final score yesterday against

852
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: the Redskins. That's the last second, you know, game that

853
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: kills you know, betters who had laid the points with

854
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: or gotten the points with the Redskins. It was just

855
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: a turnover in the last play of the game. They're

856
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: barely scraping by teams that aren't all that talented. They're

857
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: just completely decimated. I don't know if Lane Johnson's gonna

858
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: be back. Probably not. They're down all their wide receivers.

859
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just the game where you look at

860
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: the way these teams match up and it looks heavily

861
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: in favor of the Cowboys. So if you can get

862
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: the under three, I feel pretty good about it, even

863
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: though I'm a little nervous because of Garrett. Let's move

864
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: on to the Chiefs that the Bears here. This is

865
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game, Chiefs playing five with the total

866
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: of forty five, Chiefs are looking a little bit more

867
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs of old. They win big against the Broncos,

868
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: they still have an outside shot at that buy. The Bears, meanwhile,

869
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: cannot beat the Packers, pretty much ends their playoff hopes.

870
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: It's that dead number of five. So it's got, you know,

871
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: room to move either way. But how do you feel

872
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: here about the Chiefs at the Bears? Chiefs slaying five

873
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: total of forty five at.

874
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: Chicago, I think you'll get the You have the Bears

875
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: competing here, and I think it's got a chance to

876
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: be a close football game, you know, the Bears are

877
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: The Bears can relax now they're not gonna make the playoffs,

878
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: and that might actually be a good thing for them.

879
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll just go out there and have some fun,

880
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: and if they do, I think they might actually perform

881
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: better then if there was something more on the line.

882
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: That's kind of the way I've looked at this team

883
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: this season is when people haven't expected much out of

884
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: the Bears, it actually delivered some decent performances, and then

885
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: when it matters, like it did yesterday, they come up

886
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: and just throwing a clunker. So I think Kansas City

887
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: presents the kind of offensive challenge that the Bears defense

888
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: will be excited about, and I would look for this

889
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: to be a close football game. I would take the points.

890
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure whether or not i'd actually, you know,

891
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: it would quote unquote make my card or anything like that.

892
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: But I do lean the Bears here for basically exactly

893
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: the reason that you say. I mean where the Bears

894
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: are kind of vulnerable right now. You know, Keem Hicks

895
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: came back, but he was in that game. He may

896
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: not play next week. They're a little bit vulnerable against

897
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: the run. The Chiefs cannot run the ball right now

898
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: or just have no interest in doing it. The Bears

899
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: are pretty solid against the pass, so they match up

900
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: pretty well. At home, the crowds still going to be

901
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: into it even though their PLAYFF chances are over. So

902
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: I agree. This is a team that strikes me as

903
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: a team that's going to continue to play really hard

904
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: even though their playoff hopes are over. So the points

905
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: are a little bit too much for me. I'm not

906
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: sure I love it, love it, but if I'm leaning

907
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: one way, I agree with you it's towards the Bears.

908
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: Let's move on here to our final game of the week,

909
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: Monday night football. Packers at the Vikings Vikings here are

910
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: laying four and a half with the total at forty

911
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: six and a half. Obviously, you've got the Dalvin hook injury.

912
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: It sounds like he may play here. I mean now

913
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: the reports are a little bit optimistic, but it's somewhat unclear.

914
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: You've also got his backup, Alexander Madison banged up with

915
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: the angle injury, so it's unclear. So other than that, though,

916
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: it's pretty much all systems go for the Vikings. Adam

917
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Field came back, got out of the game healthy. They

918
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: destroyed the Charters in that game, which I mentioned. I

919
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: was surprised a little bit at the spread at two

920
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: and a half. And meanwhile, the Packers look they continue

921
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: to win, but it just doesn't look that impressive. Their

922
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: Their games are really close. They could easily have lost

923
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: a couple, but they do continue to win. They also

924
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: are in the mix here for that buye, so both

925
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: teams know each other very well. Packers at the Vikings

926
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Vikings saying four and a half total of forty six

927
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: and a half.

928
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: The game doesn't mean much to the Packers because if

929
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: they win next week, they got to win the division anyway.

930
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: And you know that to me is is that's the

931
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: spot I don't want to take a team in. I

932
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: know it's a rivalry and stuff like that, but the game,

933
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: I think it means more to the Viking. Unfortunately that's

934
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: in the number because you're laying. You're having to lay

935
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: more than a field goal here with the Vikings, So

936
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: I can't call it a real bargain. Let's put it

937
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: that way. Lead Vikings. But that's probably as far as

938
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: I'll go with it.

939
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: And again, this is a spot where the Packers, you know,

940
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: they're in contention for that buy. But again you don't

941
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: really think that seeding factors into you know, a team

942
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: that's more of a public thing. Is that right?

943
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's And again this is what I

944
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: said earlier. I know that doesn't make any sense, but

945
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: if you look back over the years at what's taking

946
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: place in games like this, it's been a you just

947
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: can't argue with what the results have been.

948
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And again I don't mean to dispute what

949
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: you're saying and anything like that. I think that lessons

950
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: for betters, you know, to pay attention to is that

951
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: a lot of these narratives, a lot of these things

952
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: where you just look at it on the surface and

953
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: be like, well, this team's going to come out and

954
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: play really hard or anything like that, that doesn't necessarily factor.

955
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: And but again the more desperate teams, certainly the Vikings here,

956
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: they're going to be playing as hard. But as you said,

957
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: it's baked into that number of it, so it's tough,

958
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: tough number to lay, but at four and a half,

959
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: it's certainly a game that should be an entertaining at

960
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: least for mine.

961
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: I'd lay it before I take it.

962
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand, Well that's gonna do it for today's show, Dave,

963
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: thanks for joining me again. I really enjoyed it. I'm

964
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: glad you came out back on the show. Remind everyone

965
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: where they can find more of you in your work.

966
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: Just follow me on Twitter at Dave Cocaine and all

967
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: kinds of links to other stuff there.

968
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,600
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