WEBVTT - How Maglev Trains Work

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the all new Toyota Corolla. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Chuckers Briant. Yeah, and this is is

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<v Speaker 1>that where you're going with? Sure? Yeah, my bus right

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<v Speaker 1>into CC writer all the style. How are they going

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<v Speaker 1>with the Muppet? Oh? Yeah, it's time we put on makeup. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that somebody's giant stomach stuffed bike? What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird? Yeah, that was crazy. That couldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's stomach. There's no way. All right, what's what's your intro? Huh? Chuck? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you remember our Magnet podcast. Yeah, I've personally thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great episode because we explained how magnets work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just good, tough but good. Yeah, it was tough,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was also kind of um. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those ones where you're like, oh, okay, that explains

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everything about magnets, the thing that I've used

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<v Speaker 1>before in my life, and I just kind of took

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<v Speaker 1>for granted some people think that their magic, but we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of said, this is how they work. I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, I liked this this um article in theory,

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<v Speaker 1>the one we're about to do a show on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>about maglev trains. Yeah, we did a video on maglev trains.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that one of our one of our interstitial shorts

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<v Speaker 1>was on magleft trains. Uh do we I remember doing

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<v Speaker 1>the quantum levitation? Was that it? Yeah, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only way I knew about any of this was the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we had talked about it before. Well what

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<v Speaker 1>did we talk about, uh magleb you know the basic

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<v Speaker 1>principle in one minute behind magnetic levitation. Well, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much what we're gonna do here, except slightly longer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was my intro, but intro, and we should

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<v Speaker 1>say also, um, everyone, it is next to impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>get up to the minute, up to the year information

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<v Speaker 1>about what maglev trains are in operation, what are still planned,

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<v Speaker 1>what's still going on. So it is possible we may

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<v Speaker 1>get that part a little incorrect, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try our best to be as accurate as possible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because magnetic levitation to power

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<v Speaker 1>a train so new. Well, it's actually not that new,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've been doing it for a while and well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was proposed ever since Tesla started noticing what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the late nineteenth century. But it's so

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<v Speaker 1>new in this regard as far as super fast speed

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<v Speaker 1>trains powered by magnets transporting lots of people over distances,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe great distances. That is so new, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>a few different technologies that it is kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>to keep track on which one is in the forefront,

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<v Speaker 1>which ones are being funded because the stuff is expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, um, it's hard to get funding, especially here

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<v Speaker 1>in the States. Yeah, and if you go on if

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<v Speaker 1>you just type mag LEVI into Google or your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>search engine, um or duck duck go if you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watching who's watching you? Oh? Is that like

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<v Speaker 1>a secret? It's like an anonymous search engine? Okay? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you will find there's projects all over the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of them are like, we're shove already, we're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. Just give us some money. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting any money because the construction costs are so

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<v Speaker 1>enormous because with maglev trains you can't use existing railways.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all new. And uh, I saw one quote and

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<v Speaker 1>again who knows how recent this is, but fifty million

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<v Speaker 1>euros per mile. I can believe this is what the

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<v Speaker 1>German Consortium is quoting. The thing is is, once you

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<v Speaker 1>get it built, maintenance is not bad, not bad at all,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's not a lot of wear and tear on it.

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<v Speaker 1>As you'll see um and if you do look into

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<v Speaker 1>Maglav you will see that it is very much like

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<v Speaker 1>the the transportation technology of the future that's going on today. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after looking into Elon Musk's um tube hyper loop thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard of that. So basically Elon Musk, who is

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<v Speaker 1>like our good friend, yeah, uh he super rich guy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he basically just jotted down this idea on a cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>napkin and all of a sudden it's like the new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it's a an enclosed tube system that just

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<v Speaker 1>you put in a little car whatever that seats twelve

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<v Speaker 1>people or something comfortably and you suck all the air

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, no resist it, so you can go

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<v Speaker 1>really fast. Basically I think it goes about seven miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, a little under the speed of sound, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can get from the west coast to the east

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<v Speaker 1>coast or vice versa very very fast. The thing is

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<v Speaker 1>the construction costs for this are just preposterous. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it can come along or come down a little more,

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<v Speaker 1>then it will give Maglev a run for its money.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it, if Maglev can start to really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get some traction and get some lines going, it

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<v Speaker 1>will be the the movement of the future for at

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<v Speaker 1>least a decade or two. Yeah, I saw where they're

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<v Speaker 1>proposing both in the future Maglev trains that operate inside

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum tubes. Okay, as fast as two thousand miles an

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<v Speaker 1>hour as crazy. Right now they're breaking records like an

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<v Speaker 1>hour plus what's the fastest right now? The so apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is kind of mind boggling because Maglev as

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<v Speaker 1>again we realized everybody, we haven't explained what maglev is

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking here, but um, Maglev. The the great advantage

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<v Speaker 1>it has is that it's supposedly goes faster than the

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<v Speaker 1>normal steel wheel train apparently a TGV train, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a steel wheel train. UM. In Europe, they they beat

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<v Speaker 1>a Maglev land speed really that was held by the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese Maglev of about three hundred and fifty one mile

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. I think it went like three sixty. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if i'd feel safe. Yeah, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was reading a quote from a Maglev

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<v Speaker 1>rider and they were saying, like, you can tell you're

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<v Speaker 1>going really fast, like on the bullet train. You was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be so disappointed because she's taught me how to

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<v Speaker 1>say it in Japanese so many times that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to butcher. But the bullet train, it goes pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 1>like hundred and fifty miles an hour or something, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just looks like everything's a blur. You don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're going fast. Apparently in a Maglev it goes

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<v Speaker 1>fast enough to wear like you feel like, holy cow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going three fifty miles an hour. Well, our very

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<v Speaker 1>unparent company did a show World's Fastest Trains, and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Maglev segment and the dude you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>in the front room with the driver and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we're going three hundred miles an hour now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to tell on the TV you know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how fast you're going because I looked and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, then, you know, it looks like about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred to me. But um, yeah, I think being

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<v Speaker 1>on the train and I think the key to not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling too weird is obviously you're not being shot out

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<v Speaker 1>like a bullet. You're you're ramping up to that speed,

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<v Speaker 1>so that helps. Plus if you dressed normally for your

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<v Speaker 1>train ride, you'll feel less weird too. That's right. Um. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on one more thing, um, the we're talking very

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<v Speaker 1>high speeds an that's the that's the speed record of

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<v Speaker 1>a maglev. But they're averaging like to fifty or more,

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<v Speaker 1>which means if you, if you get these things built,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to expand the range of where people can

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<v Speaker 1>live and commute and go to work every day tremendously. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of value in creating these maglevs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right are we there yet? Well, before we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just might as well do a message break now, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good time, all right, So now

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<v Speaker 1>can we get down to brass tacks. Let's okay. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of confusing because I read a paper

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<v Speaker 1>in ight, I think where this guy was saying like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people calling all these different technologies maglev.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all very early stage proposal hadn't been proven yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was saying there's at least seven different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of technology here that everyone's calling maglev that are different

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<v Speaker 1>enough that it doesn't they're just different. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>purposes of this podcast, we can get it with maglev,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to point out that there are some

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<v Speaker 1>really different systems that are in use and being proposed

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and a lot of them have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the suspension system. Yeah, I think what's going on now?

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<v Speaker 1>There are three pretty much leading competing systems, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we should say, chuck. A maglev train is a

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<v Speaker 1>train that uses magnets to float above a track by

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<v Speaker 1>either a half a centimeter too. I saw one that

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<v Speaker 1>floats up to a foot off the track. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>little scary. It seems a little scary, but apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>higher you go, and that that high end of the range,

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<v Speaker 1>the more stable it is. Yeah. But so the the

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<v Speaker 1>train is literally not touching the tracks and it floats along.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that's why it can go so fast

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<v Speaker 1>is because there's no friction, no friction, The only resistance

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<v Speaker 1>is air and they're super sleek of course, so even

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<v Speaker 1>the error is cut down. Uh. So let's go. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Germany first, because they have a system, uh

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<v Speaker 1>trans rapid it's called the actually company is called trans

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<v Speaker 1>Rapid International. There's also a trans Rapid USA now I

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<v Speaker 1>think us. That's right. Uh. And the German version is

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<v Speaker 1>electro magnetic suspension. And the way that the guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the Discovery Channel show described it was that electro magnets, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you use electromagnets, they're only um magnetize when there's

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<v Speaker 1>a power source, when there's electricity running through exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's important to remember it is, and we'll point out

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<v Speaker 1>why later, because in the German system, uh, the E

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<v Speaker 1>M S system, it's all about attraction. It's not repelled

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<v Speaker 1>magnets repelling each other. It's magnets that are attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And the reason that they float is they're

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<v Speaker 1>basically switching it on and off, pulsing the electromatic magnets

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<v Speaker 1>so fast that it creates that hovering attraction. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the German version, so um okay. And apparently this

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<v Speaker 1>German version, I think they do use repulsive magnets, but

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<v Speaker 1>on the sides for the guidance magnets, so to make

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<v Speaker 1>it hover, they're turning it on an awful lot. So

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<v Speaker 1>it wants to stick, but no, but stick but no,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not a dude on the switch doing it

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<v Speaker 1>really fast. It's right. They have computers handling it UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so this is the the suspension system you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, right, the electro magnetic suspension. And the word

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<v Speaker 1>suspension is kind of easily overlooked, but in this case

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<v Speaker 1>we're literally talking about how the train is suspended in

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<v Speaker 1>mid air above the track in this case, and with

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<v Speaker 1>the e M S it's about I think half a

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<v Speaker 1>centimeter to a centimeter. It's it's very close to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the track, and they use the electro magnets to

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<v Speaker 1>attract and they use the guidance magnets, which are magnets

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<v Speaker 1>installed on the side of the train UH that are

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<v Speaker 1>along the side of the track to repel magnets along

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the track to keep the train from

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<v Speaker 1>bumping into the guide rails. But it requires a UH

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<v Speaker 1>computer system to constantly make adjustments to the current that's

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<v Speaker 1>going through these electro magnets to either um to either

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<v Speaker 1>attract the train to make it float or to repel

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<v Speaker 1>it from the sides to adjust it to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>it never bumps into the rails or the track. Because

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going three fifty miles an hour and your

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<v Speaker 1>train scuffs the track, you're in big trouble or big trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>One advantage of this, uh the German system, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you only need the power on for the section of

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<v Speaker 1>track that you're using at the time. So they literally

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<v Speaker 1>will turn on a section of track, the train goes

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<v Speaker 1>over it, and then they'll turn it back off. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very like economically fuel will not fuel efficient

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not fuel right, and that's the power efficient right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't use fossil fuel in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>a normal train does, although if you go far enough

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<v Speaker 1>down the line, that electricity has to come from somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>so ultimately it is coming from possibles. But the efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>fuel efficiency is incredible compared to you know, a normal

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<v Speaker 1>train that burns cossal fuels just to move God's shoveling

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<v Speaker 1>coal into a fire. Yeah, yeah, I should say so.

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding of the delivery of electricity to the track

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<v Speaker 1>is the same for both suspension systems that you propel

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So the whole track is made of electromagnets

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<v Speaker 1>right from on both systems, and you're just sending electricity

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<v Speaker 1>to the electromagnets that are immediately in front of and

0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:51.520
<v Speaker 1>immediately behind the train immediately under. Yeah, because you need it.

0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.920
<v Speaker 1>You need to float the train. Then you need to

0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.080
<v Speaker 1>propel it right, and the way you're propelling it is

0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the magnets that are just ahead of the train are

0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be positive, and so that's going to attract

0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.559
<v Speaker 1>the train, meaning it's gonna pull it forward. And then

0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the the magnets behind it are gonna be charged so

0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're negative and they're going to repel the train

0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.319
<v Speaker 1>push it. So in the front, the magnets are pulling

0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it in the in the back, the magnets are pushing it.

0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.720
<v Speaker 1>And again, remember there's no friction here, it's just air.

0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.760
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't take a whole lot to make this

0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.280
<v Speaker 1>train go really really fast just using magnets. Yeah, and

0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:32.280
<v Speaker 1>they in two thousand two debuted commercially in Shanghai, China,

0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a pretty short run transporting people um from airport to

0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>airport basically um at a speed it speeds over two

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty miles an hour. So I read that the journey

0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen mile journey. Now it takes about seven and

0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.280
<v Speaker 1>a half minutes as opposed to about an hour in

0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a cab, and they were going to expand it, but

0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.000
<v Speaker 1>that was halted in two thousand eight over radiation fears

0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:02.440
<v Speaker 1>by people, And now it's being proposed as an underground system,

0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.280
<v Speaker 1>like to go underground to halt those fears. But in

0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and ten another high speed train in the

0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.720
<v Speaker 1>area was a non maglev system opened, so they basically said, well,

0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.240
<v Speaker 1>we probably won't do this. Uh, we probably won't extend

0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the Shanghai line now. So yeah, I heard it's definitely

0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.520
<v Speaker 1>on hold, but I didn't hear that they decided they

0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:25.880
<v Speaker 1>weren't going to do it. Well, the regular bullet train

0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.800
<v Speaker 1>popped up and they're like, well, now that we have that,

0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess we don't need the maglev. Oh well, oh well,

0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:37.440
<v Speaker 1>so Japan's got the other um big rival system. Uh

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.160
<v Speaker 1>So the propulsion systems are the same. You use magnets

0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.320
<v Speaker 1>ahead of the train and behind the train to attract

0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a repel it right to push it forward. I believe so,

0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>so um the suspension systems are what differ. In Germany

0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you're using magnets to um repel it right, to attract

0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it to attract it. In Japan you're using something called

0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the Meisner effect. So basically, Chuck The Meisner effect is

0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:05.800
<v Speaker 1>where you take a super cooled superconductor, right, I think

0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.120
<v Speaker 1>like liquid helium temperature, which is very very cold, and

0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you put it in a magnetic field. The magnetic field

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:20.480
<v Speaker 1>basically hugs it. It goes around it rather than through it. Okay, Um,

0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:25.160
<v Speaker 1>So when you do that, the field actually levitates the thing.

0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.240
<v Speaker 1>So if you take enough superconductors that are at the

0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>right temperature and you put them in the presence of

0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a magnetic field whole bunch of magnets, say on a train,

0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the the magnet will float, it will levitate, And that's

0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the electrodynamics expension that the Japanese are using. So basically

0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a tunnel, a magnetic field tunnel that these

0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.600
<v Speaker 1>things are traveling through, which means that there they don't

0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't need any extra magnets on the sides, or

0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't need any on the bottom or extra magnets

0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom. It's just going to stay put within

0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.680
<v Speaker 1>this bent magnetic field that's warped to wrap around it.

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.560
<v Speaker 1>That's right. It's never going to drop and it's totally stable,

0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.840
<v Speaker 1>which is the big that's a big advantage from what

0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I understand of the Japanese system over the German system.

0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.359
<v Speaker 1>The stability doesn't require a bunch of computers to constantly

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.280
<v Speaker 1>adjust it, and it is just inherently more stable because

0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not just being held up from the bottom and

0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.560
<v Speaker 1>then a little on the sides. It is wrapped in

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:37.399
<v Speaker 1>this basically blanket of an electro magnetic field UH. It

0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.680
<v Speaker 1>can conduct power electricity even when the power is cut off,

0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.680
<v Speaker 1>so that's a definite advantage UM. Although the German system

0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.040
<v Speaker 1>does have like battery backups, it's not like if the

0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.560
<v Speaker 1>power went off, the train would just go and stop.

0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.159
<v Speaker 1>But the German one doesn't never doesn't need tires, and

0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Japanese one does, yeah, because it needs to ramp

0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.239
<v Speaker 1>up to a certain speed in order to begin the

0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.080
<v Speaker 1>float and just start immediately. What is it like eighty

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 1>eight miles per hour. That's back to the future sixty two.

0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think they use liquid nitrogen and it's just

0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:14.360
<v Speaker 1>expensive to super cool these UH coils, and I think

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the drawbacks. But they're all expensive. They're

0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.760
<v Speaker 1>none of this is they haven't figured out a cheap

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.159
<v Speaker 1>way to do any of this. Now, there's a proposed

0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.679
<v Speaker 1>line um in Japan. It's already it's the one that

0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 1>set the uh that land speed record for maglev trains.

0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It's the j R tok Um that's the railway company,

0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the JRR Tolkien kind of close, but it's their line. Um,

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed supposedly is already in operation. I read somewhere

0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that it's moved like a million people already. But they

0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.119
<v Speaker 1>have a proposed line that they want to open by

0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.760
<v Speaker 1>seven and it's from Tokyo to Nagoya, and then they

0:18:54.760 --> 0:19:00.280
<v Speaker 1>want to extend that from Tokyo to Osaka. And they're

0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>talking like it's like a fifty billion dollar project and

0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.199
<v Speaker 1>I think that's just the first line. That's Yeah, it

0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>sounds about right. But the reason that it probably will

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.080
<v Speaker 1>happen is they're they're um facing all of this on

0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.919
<v Speaker 1>data showing that people are going to keep moving to

0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Japan and Osaka, so they're going to have customers and

0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.280
<v Speaker 1>they're not relying on any government money. They have so

0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.760
<v Speaker 1>much money they're just going to fund it themselves. Is

0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.160
<v Speaker 1>privately funded. Yeah. Yeah. Another con though of the Japanese

0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.480
<v Speaker 1>version is that if you have a pacemaker, you don't

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>want to get on that train because, um, that magnetic

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 1>field will reek havoc and you probably won't live. It

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 1>will shut you down. We'll shut you down. And then

0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>there's the in duct track and that is another type

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of E d S system, which is the Japanese system,

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.439
<v Speaker 1>except that they use room temperature magnets. And from what

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I could tell, this is as close to just the

0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:03.280
<v Speaker 1>whole thing of magnets, regular magnets opposing each other, and

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna use that, right, Yeah, Like it's as

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.879
<v Speaker 1>close do we get as you going out to the

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 1>store and getting two magnets and putting their like poles

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.919
<v Speaker 1>against each other so that they repel. Yeah, there's actually

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 1>something called the hull Bock array, which is a way

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.679
<v Speaker 1>to just line up the magnets UM in certain directions

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 1>so that their poles are facing north, southeast or west. UM.

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And when you put them together in a clump, basically,

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the the magnetic field below the magnets doubles, the magnetic

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 1>field on the top of the magnets cancels one another out,

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 1>so you have your extra strong magnetic magnetic field that

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>can produce this Misner effect basically um without this super

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.920
<v Speaker 1>cooled superconductor. Yeah, and these aren't even electro magnets. I

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think aren't they just magnets. I think they're permanent

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 1>room temperature magnets. Is crazy. Yeah, there are three UM

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 1>designs right now the in duct track one, two, and three.

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.399
<v Speaker 1>UM one is high speed, two is slow speed, and

0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.320
<v Speaker 1>three is heavy load slow speed. Yeah, so I guess

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.359
<v Speaker 1>just freighting stuff back and forth. Yeah. They did this

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in London at one point, but then shut it down.

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Like in the eighties, they had a maglive train. Yeah,

0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.919
<v Speaker 1>just a very slow moving like it might have been

0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>an airport type situation. And I looked up the one

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta, the new airport train. I thought it

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.200
<v Speaker 1>might have been maglev, but of course it's not. It's

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 1>just wheels, just stupid wheels. UM. Although they had Atlanta

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 1>have its day, Well, they have proposed one. Atlanta is

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the city's UM that's trying to get maglev

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.920
<v Speaker 1>going between Atlanta and Chattanooga. And there's one proposed between

0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 1>d C and Baltimore. One in Las Vegas, Yeah, La

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas UM, and I think one from Pittsburgh to someplace,

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure exactly where I saw that one too.

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember where it might have been d C Stittsburg, Philly, yeah, well,

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.080
<v Speaker 1>hold on, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Well, no, these

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>are just proposals and and they're having a hard time

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>getting the funding they need for any of these to

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 1>really take off, right, because it's expensive, it is chuck,

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>how about a how about a message break? Huh hey,

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:23.239
<v Speaker 1>let's do it alright. So, um, this whole idea of

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 1>going three fifty miles an hour through space even without

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>friction is um awesome, It is awesome. It can also

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be deadly. They've they've already been maglev accidents. Yeah, the

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>one in Germany was a little distressing because in two

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six it crashed into a repair car that

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>was accidentally left on the track. And this is a

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>test too, so it's like everything should have been Yeah,

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like why do you leave a car on the track? Period?

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Uh So they actually

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 1>people died in that one. The train was going at

0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 1>least a hundred and twenty miles an hour when it

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>struck the car. We must have just been getting up

0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to speed, I guess, yeah, but yeah, twenty nine people

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>died on that one. There's another one in Shanghai on

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>that line that is an operation. Yeah, that was just

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a fire though, and I don't want to make light

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>of that, but it wasn't like a crash or an

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>incident like that. Yeah, I'm just glad no one got

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 1>hurt exactly. Uh. And this is breaking news, dude. This

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>was in the paper today as we record it in

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 1>real time. Okay. The Washington Post said that Northeast Maglev

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 1>everyone's getting in on the mag Love game. Uh, because

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, it really is a great idea. It's

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>just really really expensive, but if you can get it

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>up and running, it's awesome. I Mean I imagine in

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>literally in a hundred years, there'll be a lot of

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>this as major transportation, you know, but not we won't

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 1>see it. But as of today, November four, Northeast mag

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Love is AH has raised fifty million dollars in private funds.

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>They can build five inches of track with that exactly.

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And they're trying to get the Washington Baltimore lag going

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>with private funding because the government's not pony any money

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>for it. I think we'll see it in our lifetime.

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 1>They think ten billion between d C and Baltimore, although

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not They don't have a firm cost yet, but um,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how long it would take, because I mean,

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that's not even that long of a drive anyway. Yeah,

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I agreed. Let maybe ten minutes, which I mean if

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you live in Baltimore and work in d C. I'm

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.959
<v Speaker 1>sure that would be extremely attractive. Yeah, that's true. Um,

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the Atlanta at Chattanooga thing. Who cares, right,

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, people in Chattanooga be psyched, I guess because

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they could get to the airport in like thirty minutes. Yeah,

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess, not just in Chattanooga. I'll go there and

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>paying for gold. I saw this, um. This It was

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>some Discovery show video from a Discovery show too, um,

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and it had our good friend Michio Kaku, and he

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>was talking about train, bullet train that could get you

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>from one side of the world to the other in

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 1>an hour, and the way that it would do that

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>is to go through the middle of the Earth. Basically,

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you would have to create this to basically like Elon

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Musk's idea, you create a tube, you evacuate all of

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the air out of it so that there's no resistance whatsoever,

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and you just drop in the force of gravity takes

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>you up to about eighteen thousand miles an hour, and

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:31.360
<v Speaker 1>then once you make it to the center and out

0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the other side, your gravity starts to work against you,

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>so it slows you down. So within an hour you

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 1>should be able to make it from one side of

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the Earth to the other. But as Dr Coku put

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>put it, um, it's gonna be very difficult getting through

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the center of the Earth, all of all these theoretical

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.919
<v Speaker 1>ideas that come up with it, like it's not even

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>even remotely possible. And he'd probably say, like, I was

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>just talking about what they ask me to talk about.

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, dude, I was at McDonald's one day when

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I said that, I was waiting in line at McDonald's.

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So what else you got? I got nothing else? Maglev? Yeah,

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>the Way of the Future. Yeah, we've got a we

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>have a standing bet. Now we will see a maglev

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:18.400
<v Speaker 1>train in operation that we can ride on while we're

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>both alive. That's my bet. You say no that we will, Like,

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we went to Shanghai, we could do

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>it right now. So I feel like I just want

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>my bet well health that you're gonna pay for us

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States, um, within our lifetime, which

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>for me is gonna be about twenty years. We're both

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>still healthy enough to ride it. Okay, I'll take that

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<v Speaker 1>I said a search part, it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. This is I'm gonna call this opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>students filmmaking students to get your film on Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>to work for nonprofit Antiquity Now, which is dedicated to

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<v Speaker 1>raising awareness of the importance of preserving our cult cultural

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<v Speaker 1>heritage by demonstrating how antiquities legacy influences and shapes our

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<v Speaker 1>lives today. Yeah, they have good stuff. We follow them

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. Oh you do nice? We do, Yes, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of us at Antiquity Now are big fans of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. We thought you would be interested and this

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming project that we are holding the first ever Legacy

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<v Speaker 1>Quest International Children's Film and Video Festival, which aims to

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<v Speaker 1>get tweens and teens excited about history. The festival will

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<v Speaker 1>be held in conjunction with the Archaeology Channel International Film

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<v Speaker 1>and Video Festival on May nine through and Eugene Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what you gotta do, kids, young people, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're between twelve and fifteen, you can submit videos that

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<v Speaker 1>represent antiquities legacy in our contemporary life. For example, you

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<v Speaker 1>could depict how the invention of the wheel or calendar

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<v Speaker 1>her has contributed to modern society, or how ancient methods

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<v Speaker 1>of solar energy have been formed today's green technology. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>that yes, entries may be submitted by an individual student

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<v Speaker 1>or by a group or class under the guidance of

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher. As the festival was designed in accordance with

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<v Speaker 1>the United States National Curriculum Standards for Social Studies, Legacy

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<v Speaker 1>Quests would be a great project for teachers to do

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<v Speaker 1>with their classes. Creating the video will support the development

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<v Speaker 1>of literacy research skills, writing skills, visual communication, and storytelling.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have prizes first, second, and third prize among

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<v Speaker 1>along with ten honorable mentions. Will be announced at the

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<v Speaker 1>Archaeology Channel International Film and Video Festival and promoted online

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<v Speaker 1>by both the Archaeology Channel and Antiquity Now and U

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<v Speaker 1>and us so UH. For more information and submission forms,

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<v Speaker 1>go to antiquity Now dot org. And that is from

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<v Speaker 1>Chahandra Goldfinger, not Chandra. She points out it's Chandra Goldfinger,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great name. It really is. And again

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<v Speaker 1>that's May nine. The next year teachers students, where can

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