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Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back ey L South Beach Edition.

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Speaker 5: But this is an uptown edition. Really, this is legendary edition. Man,

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Speaker 5: if you follow us, you know that you know hip

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Speaker 5: hop really raised us. We talk about all the time.

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Speaker 5: We always reference all of these rappers and everything. It's

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Speaker 5: part of our DNA. And of course, of course, of

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Speaker 5: course one of the biggest, the biggest, biggest, biggest ever

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Speaker 5: to do it, the legendary Fat Joe. So we didn't know,

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Speaker 5: we in Miami and we didn't know that this was

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Speaker 3: This happened just on a fly shout the.

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Speaker 2: Trible shouts, the trible shouting Nicole.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from making this happen.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, it really needs no introduction, but I'll

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Speaker 5: give a quick rundown. Thirty years in the game started

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Speaker 5: with digging in the crazy I believe in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 5: My first album, Respect came out in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 4: Can we just can we just like pay how much

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Speaker 4: that I had a Diamond D record. I had the

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Speaker 4: c D Diamond d CD with Lord Finesse.

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Speaker 2: I was in Diamond's album. I'm in every single ad

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Speaker 2: lib on his album. I'm I'm the guy in the

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Speaker 2: background going Yo, that's that ship. And when he talked

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Speaker 2: to the girl and I'm like Yo, what's up, She's like, Yo, chill.

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Speaker 2: You know, every ad lib on Diamond's album is fat Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yo, this guy I told him when he was coming up.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Yo, were both in the Bronx, born in

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Speaker 4: the Bronx, raised Westchester. But I was like yo for

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Speaker 4: a while. I used to be like, your care rest

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Speaker 4: in the favorite. That was my favorite rapping. I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 4: nobody's better here. I don't care what you're talking about, Rocky,

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Speaker 4: and your care rest is the Ellis. And then this

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Speaker 4: you got me carerest one day.

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Speaker 2: That's my mentor, that's my you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I rapped because the care rest one. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. First time I ever heard him, I remember

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Speaker 2: one time, well, the first time I ever heard consciousness

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Speaker 2: was out of care us to hop the train Prospect

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Speaker 2: and he was like airplanes flying overseas, people dying, politicians lying.

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know he was He's the guy that

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Speaker 2: made me want to wrap. Him Andelo Cool Jaded both

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Speaker 5: So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, fat show.

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Speaker 5: I can go on and on, but we're gonna talk

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Speaker 5: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is a business show, as we were

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Speaker 5: saying before, So the conversation's gonna a little different, probably

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Speaker 5: at you, I don't just look at you as you know,

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Speaker 5: a rap mogul. I look at you as a variety

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Speaker 5: of different things, but one of the greatest A and

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Speaker 5: for talent.

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Speaker 2: Not given enough credit for that too, No.

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Speaker 3: It's a fact.

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Speaker 5: I mean when you look at Big pun rest in peace,

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Speaker 2: Tony Sunshine, uh Bryson Tiller was early with bon Uh.

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Speaker 2: I took pitt Bull's demo and got him his first

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Speaker 4: That was crazy because he's supposed to say murder in

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Speaker 4: first Yeah, I remember, was trying to get.

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Speaker 2: Him to go over there. No, he was trying to

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Speaker 2: sign Rick Rick Ross. Also, I could have signed Rick

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Speaker 2: Ross too, but a lot of mistakes. I mean, but

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Speaker 2: pit Bull I got a his deal. How'd that come

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Speaker 2: Aroundrick Daddy? I was out here in Miami and Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl weekend, caught his fucking CD at the Flea Mark.

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Speaker 2: I was playing it the whole time I was out here.

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Speaker 2: I went to Atlantic, I gave it the Creig Common

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Speaker 2: he signed Craik. He signed Trick Daddy like two days later.

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Speaker 5: So we'll talk about all of those stories. But all right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: About my eye for talent? I'm just trying to let

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Speaker 3: So how did that develop? How did that develop?

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Speaker 5: Because most rappers they're not really on it like that,

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Speaker 5: two people from the neighborhood. Maybe that's obvious and it's

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm I'm I'm indebted and I'm in love with

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Speaker 2: the culture, you know, coming up from the Bronx like

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Speaker 2: where hip hop was born. And then there's different sections

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Speaker 2: will watch Melly Mellon, Graham ass the Flash play pickup

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Speaker 2: I was around little Rodney C. I was around Shah Rock,

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Speaker 3: So all right, how did it first come about?

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Speaker 5: As far as Terror Squad becoming a record label and

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Speaker 2: I think I'm again armaged, Oh oh my god, again

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Speaker 2: was and so I'm again just like uh Me and

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Speaker 2: Diamond de uh Where I tell you, I did ever

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Speaker 2: yad live, arm again did everyad live on the represent album.

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Speaker 2: So I was at Jazzy j Studio in the Bronx.

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Speaker 2: That was a legendary studio grand Pool I used to

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Speaker 2: then Pum was you know, Pum was actually the logo.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. He was the person to

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Speaker 3: And then remy Ma comes after that. Obviously that was.

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Speaker 2: What was it like for you from the Bronx. You

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Speaker 2: got this fat Puerto Rican guy. First of all, you

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Speaker 2: got Fat Joe. You're hearing Fat Joe's the realist of it.

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Speaker 2: In a game, y'all know the story side. The fatter

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Speaker 2: Puerto Rican some crazy and then they signed the Hottest Chick,

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Speaker 3: In there now.

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Speaker 5: I was just I was watching the whole thing, just

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you another one, bro, when we went

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Speaker 4: to the Puerto Rican Day parade. I have y'all on tape, bro,

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Speaker 4: like I'm watching y'all on the float, y'all got y'allie

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Speaker 4: went even further, y'all walked through Central Park.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, yo, that's fat Joe. You know that.

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Speaker 4: You know they were kissed, they were stat like we

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Speaker 4: like recorded it as it's happened. I'm like, yo, this

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Speaker 2: Never I never got like he's Latino or he's Puerto

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Speaker 2: Rican Joe. Like when I grew up, it was Joey

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, black people ain't looking at

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Speaker 2: me like he's Spanish. And he's It was always like,

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Speaker 2: that's Joey, you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't

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Speaker 2: to school and I write about it in my book.

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Speaker 2: I got a book. I'm right now. And when I

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Speaker 2: want you to even blacker neighborhood. So if my neighborhood

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Speaker 2: It was shut y'all. Fuck is good. They're like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: this alien come from? So it's different because I grew

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was fun. That was fun with one

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Speaker 4: I still don't. I'll be trying to say the course

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Speaker 2: Is it like Russell Simmons at the time? Is it

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Speaker 2: But I'm like, if they got a hundred million, I

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Speaker 2: So pop Daddy used to run up on me. You know,

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Speaker 2: He helped me sign Big Pond. He gave me the money,

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Speaker 5: So how because we always hear about you know, these records,

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Speaker 2: It's a subsidiary of Sony, and it's and it's all

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Speaker 2: I never talked like this because I don't like to

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Speaker 2: So the shit is like a Ponzi scheme, so it's

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Speaker 2: fun while it lasted. I mean, the record labels are

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Speaker 5: Swiss Be said something that I never forget. He said,

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Speaker 5: So he was like he related that to the music business,

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Speaker 3: But it all comes back to the top, dude, it's all.

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Speaker 2: A predatory business. They take young black people, young Spanish

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Speaker 2: they know that these guys ain't educated. The lawyers that's

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Speaker 2: real smart. See, I never got robbed by a guy

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where we go back into entrepreneurial is and

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Speaker 2: that's when we go back to business is business. So

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Speaker 2: and always looking to expand and and and do my things.

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Speaker 2: I shot the movie Night School, and and thank god,

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Speaker 2: and and and yeah your tipany at it and my

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Speaker 2: to Warner Brothers recently movie. So I'm not like, nah,

431
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm that's me. I'm like, I'm trying to

432
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 2: figure out how to own the ship, how to go

433
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: in there. And you know, I'm not the smartest. I'm

434
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: not that, but that's just always nontality. So I go

435
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: in to Relativity Records. It's ten Jewish dudes, and I'm

436
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 2: sitting in there and they start using fancy words, and

437
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 2: within an hour I started realizing, I mean, this man

438
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: out of work. Cut it up. You gotta promote, you

439
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 2: gotta give samples out. We used to do something when

440
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: we hustle. And look, I'm not proud about this, guys,

441
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: but I'm just telling you what. I used. Think the

442
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: beat name of cook Coake down the street and go sample, sample, sample.

443
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: When I got a new batch of fresh.

444
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: Product ice cream, trunk you real talk.

445
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 2: So I would go sample and I would have maybe

446
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: like three hundred dollars worth of dope, and dope fiends

447
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 2: will follow me and I give it to him and

448
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: I asked him, is it good? Is it a nine?

449
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: Is it ten? To count? How does it feel? How's

450
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: it coming down?

451
00:22:53,400 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 7: I never got and so we had the market promote.

452
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: They knew the new packages in you know what I'm saying,

453
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: So when I get it in the music business, I

454
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: know what the fuck they talking about. I'm sitting there.

455
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: Oh they talking about samples. You gotta get my promoc that.

456
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: We talk about that all the time.

457
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 4: It's like, yo, you just if we just shifted the

458
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 4: same disciplines in other mediums, we could be super successful.

459
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: Right.

460
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: We talked about that with trapping. It's like yo, he's saying, Yo,

461
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 4: the game just like the Wall Street game. Right, it's

462
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 4: the same discipline. You know what I'm saying.

463
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: If you've learned it there, you can apply it somewhere else.

464
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: And so like you're saying it, So I've met billionaires. Okay,

465
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: this is what I was gonna try to It ain't

466
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: about Harvard. It ain't about Harvard. It ain't about an education.

467
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm being real with you. Should you have people with

468
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: that education around you to protect you and talk the

469
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: language you don't know how to talk. But I met

470
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: so many billionaires dead they just have that, they have

471
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: that niche. So I've met a guy I know, a

472
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: guy beyond a billionaire. He uh, he would, he would.

473
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: He owned his spot in Miami. I don't want to

474
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: tell his business like that, but he owned the spot

475
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: in Miami. Uh, cooking gowns like grandmother batas they called botas.

476
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Here's a lot of latinos. So you know how your

477
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: grandmother used to cooking the thing with the little like

478
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: the apron ship not an apron but the dress and

479
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: once you cook on Sunday, Saturday, soul food cooking. They

480
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: all got them right. He made that right. He made

481
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: a start doing that old people behind the thing. He

482
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: learned business do there next thing, you know, the next

483
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: the next store. Uh, they own perfume thing. He wound

484
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: up buying that business. So he's selling the perfume thing.

485
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: Now he figures out when he's selling in the factory

486
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 2: in Switzerland or whatever. And then next thing, you know,

487
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: he started just buying companies off of no how out

488
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: and flipping them and selling them. And now he's a billionaire.

489
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: He never went to Harvard, he never went to none

490
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: of that ship. He just learned how to play this

491
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: game and kept flipping it. And now they look at

492
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: him like he's the greatest genius you ever seen in life.

493
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: You don't talk the same language as these people, but

494
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: he gets shit done. You know, I got another friend.

495
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: She owns a company called a Latin now she calls

496
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: it's called It's a ten hair product. She was a beautician,

497
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: she was doing girls heads. She ain't liked the product

498
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: she was. She invented her own shampoo. They call it

499
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: liquid Go Ship blue, out of control. She makes four

500
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: hundred million a year. So it's not about Harvard and

501
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: Yale or none of that.

502
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 5: Ship is about smart you smart, I thought, we say

503
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 5: all the time, it's about it's about the education that

504
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 5: you get outside of school.

505
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: Actly, listen to fifty is the new Aaron Spelling? He said,

506
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: got like twenty shows on TV BRO and Eastern, the

507
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: projects in South Side Jamaica. Quiz. He's just he's just

508
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: new business. He got it. They studied the business and

509
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: he applied the ship from the street in this and

510
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: it's longest because the hardest thing is ah And tonight

511
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 2: on my show, I got Daniels and I watched a

512
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: couple of interviews of his. He keeps saying, because they

513
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't let us in, because they wouldn't let us in,

514
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: because and that's the point. The point is a lot

515
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: of people have ideas, creative ideas. Who can actually make

516
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: them happen, you know, who can get in there when

517
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: they said they won't let us in.

518
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: That's that's what's up.

519
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this as far as diversifying, so

520
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 5: I never forget when you look the sneakers.

521
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: Legendary moment.

522
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 5: It was the Jordans, was it? So you look the sneakers.

523
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 5: So obviously everybody knows that you've been a sneakerhead for

524
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 5: a long time. And I believe you had a sneaker

525
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 5: store when he was a teenager. But now that's come

526
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 5: full circle where you got up in YC.

527
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: Talk about that, and you can trust me, we the

528
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: biggest for a Latino in the black community period in

529
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: New York City. So you know, our kids always got

530
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: to see them to be going all the way downtown

531
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: to get the fly sneakers and get the fly ship.

532
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: You walk in the stores in our hood. Uh, this

533
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: fucking rust leaking off the ceiling. You know, you treat

534
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: us like you know, we ain't shit. Yeah, and still

535
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: they make enough money to go live in our pine

536
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: and tenor flying mansions and shit like that or for

537
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: our hood, right, So it was a natural progression saying

538
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: that I love sneaking so much and I'm a sneaker,

539
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: you know, collector. But to open up back in our

540
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: community show people a lot of artists, they get they

541
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: get up and they run away. We never see him again,

542
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And that's not what Fat

543
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: Joe has ever been about. So to open back up,

544
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: and like you said, it is a major key making

545
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: everybody your partner. You know what I'm saying. You go

546
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: to my store now you see the guy be on

547
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: the connon he got a rolex on like your ship

548
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: that from New York. They got rolexes on, They got

549
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: bends outside, look like the marble floor. Marble floor. Because

550
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: I gotta make sure they don't steal from me. You

551
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: gotta take care of them enough feel like yours, so

552
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: they won't steal from me.

553
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: They don't put you on the menu.

554
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: Is that you don't feed the wolves. That I ain't

555
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: never hear it like that, but that is a fact.

556
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: And so that's what I do. I make sure everybody happy.

557
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: My birthday didn't buy me ship like they chipped in

558
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: for this watch for me it's called the chandeliers.

559
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 3: So what's the what's the vision for can we introduce

560
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: killing mic?

561
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 5: And he was like his vision for his barbershops is

562
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: to like franchise it and have like a barber shop

563
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: and they be major city.

564
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Is your vision to have it? Like, uh, what's the sneak?

565
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: I want to open the club, like not flight club

566
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: because they resell you're actually smarter than me, so let's

567
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: get the concept gone. I don't know.

568
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: I don't think so right because they are people. I'm

569
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: a sneaker at myself, but it's like, yo, sometimes you

570
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: just want the sneaker.

571
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Like these people just uberized it's sneaky, right. So what

572
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: they do is they rent the spot and they tell you, yo,

573
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: bring you sneak. I'm gonna get twenty percent of our

574
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: selling for whatever you want to sell it for. If

575
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: you say, y'all want a thousand dollars to that sneaker,

576
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: they get their two hundred off to sell. They never

577
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: had to buy the sneaker, they never owned the sneaker.

578
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: They just making pc. They're like the house, like if

579
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: it's a gambling course. So with me is different with us,

580
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: we got to count Jordan Nike counts and stuff like that.

581
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: So we gotta play by the rules. We can't resell,

582
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: we can't spell the one in the box. We can't,

583
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: which we're grateful. But but but the answer to answer

584
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: you is, I want to open up about ten of them.

585
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm actually uh moving back to New York right

586
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: now in the process, full time, full time, just totally

587
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: focused on my sneaker stores and the and the side business.

588
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to. I want to open

589
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: up a fun business. See me, I'm not scared. Right

590
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: So now, anybody watches your show, they probably don't hurt

591
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: the smartest people coming here and talk me. I'm you

592
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: could call me dumb because I'm like Bugsy Segull. I

593
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: will go to the desert and bill Bakers. I don't

594
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: give a fuck if I lose, I lose win. Hey,

595
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: with geniuses, that's me. I'm not scared money. I'm not

596
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: scared of money. I'm not scared money. So with me,

597
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: I want to open a business. I don't know if

598
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: I should talk about it, but uh, but it's gonna

599
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: be personal and I'm gonna work there. I'm gonna work

600
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: at the shot, run the shot in New York City.

601
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run the shot some day to day vib

602
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: some day to day vibes. I want to open up

603
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: you know, I'm pre betic. I been diabetic since I

604
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: was fourteen. I want to open up a bakery strictly

605
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: for diabetics, no sugar, no sugar, for the kids that

606
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: are struggling with weight issues. People are healthy who want

607
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: stuff like that. There's never been a bakery with actually

608
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: taste the dishes, and you get you knowing that now

609
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: they got mony food sugar, they got all different types

610
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: of uh.

611
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 5: We should we should connect fishy flavors, we should connect

612
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: him with So jay Z invested in this company. I

613
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: forgot that the woman's name. We interviewed her too, but

614
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 5: she her kid had a food allergy allergy. She quit

615
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: her corporate job where she was making a nice amount

616
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: of money and she started a line of of cookies.

617
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 5: And it has like the non allergetic thing, the vegan thing,

618
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 5: the thing I'm gonna do.

619
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna do it for uh pretty much low

620
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: sugar into close to no sugar, no sugar, a taste

621
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: delicious And now I want you work there. I want

622
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: to be behind account with the chef I'm in there,

623
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: thinks him crazy. Everybody thinks some crazy. You're gonna fat Joe,

624
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: shoot got fee, you know what I'm saying. And I'm

625
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: behind that calendar. You're gonna see and it's going to

626
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: change the game because at the end of the day,

627
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, the health crisis in America, especially in the

628
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: black and Latino community, has a lot to deal deal

629
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: with sugar issues. We gotta start educating. Make stuff the

630
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: tasty so that I know if I have that option,

631
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: you know, I would prefer that rather than you know,

632
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: fuck myself.

633
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: I feel like you've done that, man, especially in the

634
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: health side. It was used to be fat Joe, and

635
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: now it's like, yeah, we just gotta call him Joe.

636
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: He's lost some one's weight back.

637
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

638
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like you've always given back.

639
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: So you said that you want to do that for

640
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: the kids, but I heard the story where you did

641
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: that with the sneakers too. It was your love for

642
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: sneakers and your love for kids, and you said, you

643
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna go back to the schools in

644
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: the Bronx and as an incentive for them to improve

645
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Speaker 4: their grades as an incentive to improve behavior.

646
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm giving sneakers to the entire school. So how did

647
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: that go? Speakers to the classes the number one class

648
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: who improved in reading grades and behavior and uh and

649
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: the charity knits right, that's a big one. And so yo,

650
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: the bullies became the geniuses, the bullies in the school,

651
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: the kids. That was the biggest problem. This that man,

652
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: I went up in there and we did it to

653
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: what like ten schools or something, moving DS junior and

654
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: when you see the guys that are one of these

655
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: guys as bullies, they start crying. I used to come

656
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: here and start with people, and now I love my

657
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: classmates and I'm so proud of my class. And I

658
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: knew that if you because I had, like I told you,

659
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: I came up real, real tough. And had you told

660
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: Fat Joey from far As Projects, it was a chance

661
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 2: he could have won some Jordan sneakers. By I'd have

662
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Speaker 2: been a plus student, you know what I'm saying. So

663
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: it really really the empirical data, uh was incredible. The

664
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: grades shot up to just everybody competed for the Unfortunately

665
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't give it to every kid in the school.

666
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because it'd be too expensive,

667
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: but it was really really great. And what we do

668
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: a lot is we constantly give it back, right Like

669
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I mean like constantly giving back, you know the thanksgivings,

670
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: not the thanksgivings, the Christmas thousands, families, groceries. I'm not

671
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: talking about this. I think groceries for the thing. We

672
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: try to do as much as we can. You know,

673
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen hit our community bad. The kids couldn't go

674
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: to school, so they needed laptops. We bought it tons

675
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: of laptops and donated it to the schools ship. We

676
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: don't even talk about you know what I'm saying because

677
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm blessed, saying we all blessed, you know, when we

678
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: can wake up and eat a lobster or steak if

679
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: we were really blessed. So we like to give back

680
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: as much as we can to our community. So it's

681
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: almost become My stores have almost become a hug to

682
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: how you can get in touch with that Joe. Let's

683
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: see if you're you get them to donate some ship

684
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: in a few years. You know, yo, what's going there?

685
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: Y'all tell a big man, yo, I got some ship.

686
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: I got to talk to him about some autistic kids.

687
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: I know his son is autistic, and they work that

688
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: ship and then they wind up getting the meeting with

689
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: me and we wind up donating shit. That's a beautiful thing. Man.

690
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, how well two questions about rap?

691
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 5: How important is it to diversify? We talked about multiple

692
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 5: streams of income a lot right for your rap. I

693
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: mean you're you're blessed thirty years in the game that

694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: I feel like rappers like football, the aversh rappers, Yeah, right,

695
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: like three years, right, So you're getting money for a

696
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 5: short period of time, but now when it stops, it's over.

697
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 5: This is why a lot of athletes go broke because

698
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 5: it's like, no matter even if you make ten million,

699
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: you're living like you make ten million, which is cool

700
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: while you're making ten million, but then you go for

701
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 5: making ten million to zero. So how important is that

702
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 5: to diversify and have other stuff going?

703
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: First of all, you gotta believe, you gotta live in truth.

704
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: You gotta believe it, you gotta live in reality. So

705
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: it's hard for us because we realize I win't broke

706
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: these times, you know, millions after getting millions, ten million, dollars,

707
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: broke four million dollars.

708
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 5: How that happened? After more bottom more bottoms? Do you

709
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 5: think after the first time, you wasn't like all right,

710
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 5: hard stop.

711
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Oh. I walked out that bank. My asshole was so tight.

712
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: I felt like you beat me to death with this

713
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: fucking mic. I was like dolphin with a hole in

714
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: my head. Ship was different. That ship was buzzing like.

715
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: The lady was like, I'm sorry, mister Carter Gena, because

716
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: I used to go there every day for like fifty

717
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: thousand cash every day in the bank, give me fifty

718
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: thousand cash? Can me thirty thousand casts? Can be fifty thousand?

719
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: You think you can't run out of that ship? And

720
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: one day I went there. I'll never forget. It was

721
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: across the street from Yankee Stadium, that bank that chased

722
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: She said, must be a problem money in here, mister.

723
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: I was like, I walked out of there. I was like,

724
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 2: and I had to go back at it. I remember

725
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: I got on my knees and I prayed to guard

726
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: every day, like on.

727
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: The knees, like negotiating with but if you just one

728
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Speaker 5: more tre.

729
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: Knees man, not just praying, you know, pray anywhere but

730
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: on the knees staring at the Jesus poster like please

731
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: don't let it go out like that. And from the

732
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: drug game to any other game, I watched people have

733
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: runs that have their money and then lose it. Andy

734
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, he used to have it. You know

735
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And unfortunately, the only thing people seem

736
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: to respect is the bag that you got money. It's

737
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: the only difference in fact, Joe walking in here then

738
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: another old school rapper that came out with Joe just

739
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: missing his front teeth. When Joe come in here, he

740
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: smelled good, he's still flying. Just oh he got the bag.

741
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Respect this man. Let's talk about this. Respect the bag,

742
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: out of respect the bag. What's the catalyst that brings

743
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: you back well at that time? Each time? Is it

744
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: like yo, lean back, took me out of here.

745
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: I feel like you are consistent with like, yo, you're

746
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: gonna give us an anthem?

747
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: That's not easy, bro, I know, I mean we don't

748
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: see it. We don't see some people is lucky. That's unfortunate.

749
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate, because to have one hit record is a miracle.

750
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

751
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: You got a fucking miracle. I always say I'd rather

752
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: be a woner hit wonder than to no hit wonder, Like,

753
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: at least you gotta hit. You walk the red carpet,

754
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: you see your favorite might even fuck one of the

755
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: most famous army. You get money, then you run out

756
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: of it is when you did it right, and then

757
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: another thing to rap forever and never get a hit

758
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: and so but to constantly do it over and over

759
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: and over and over and over again.

760
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: That song that you got right now is my favorite

761
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 5: song out right now. I've said it several times.

762
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: Another vibe.

763
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like.

764
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: But so that's quarantine music. That's d nice.

765
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: It's a mashup. It started as a mashup, right with.

766
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: You fucking incredible genius and the way he mixes his

767
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: ship he's at.

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Speaker 2: Adac, I don't want to overhype him.

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Speaker 3: He's nest he told me I didn't know about.

818
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Speaker 2: Him at all. It's different.

819
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Speaker 3: He's I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Way, you must have a program where he's studying the

821
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: beats permitted because the way it blends sounds like, Yo,

822
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: that should have been a record.

823
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: How do you get that samp? Because it's like Rihanna sample,

824
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 3: it's a sample.

825
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: So that's business like exactly. So Dre heard him, and

826
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: d was like, Yo, you will not fucking believe this.

827
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: I was like, what you're saying. I was in the

828
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: Bahamas on vacation. He was like, yo, I want to

829
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: send you some ship. So he says, clip of the

830
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: kid playing the music? What the fuck? That ship is crazy?

831
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: And then Drake called me. He said, you will produce

832
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: that Ship's one thing to DJ, it's another thing to

833
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: produce the snare, the this, the that, the right loop,

834
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: the right you know, produce unsir. Dre produced it and

835
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: I was like, this ship is crazy. So then he

836
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: got back from vacation and we did Callus Studios, Callus Studio, different,

837
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: Callus Studio, got palm trees. They give you cappuccinos while

838
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: you're recording. Nah, it's a movie. Smells like a billion

839
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: dollars you're looking at water and ship like it's different

840
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: to caleng in there with me. Dre's in there with me,

841
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: and we actually wrote the song together like and we

842
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: The last time we did that was leaned Back. The

843
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: very last time DJ Kalid Cool and Dre sat down

844
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: and plotted on a record was lean Back, you know,

845
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: because after that Calid got his career. I do my thing,

846
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: they do they thing. The last time we collaborated and

847
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: plotted was leaned Back. So we up in there and

848
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: call it comes back with We're back to take those

849
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: in the sky, my god to take those I'm like,

850
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: oh shick, call it so cal it made that he

851
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: came up with that one line back to go.

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00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: So you're only in the sky, my got to take those.

853
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: That's hard. That's the big play for the sky.

854
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: We was like, so we was like in his zone

855
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: and and that he's down as a writer.

856
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: That's how I know that came with that line he

857
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 5: came up with.

858
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: So I go boom uh. So we up in there

859
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: and we do it. Then I call a kid m

860
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: the kid kid called me back video and like yo,

861
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: he was like, yo, what I've seen what you've been

862
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: doing that? And then play it for. I said, listen,

863
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you the the video writer, publisher. You're

864
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: gonna get paid, like you know, come on, man, take everybody,

865
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: take everybody. He's my partner now now you know him

866
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: is following with the young kids. He's going crazy out

867
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: there with the young kids, the young kids. Is we

868
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: posting the ship this? This? That? Because they said, yo here,

869
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: they ain't fuck him. They ain't fuck him. That's what

870
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean my partnership. Everybody together win. We all gotta win.

871
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: I learned that from the Billies. I learned that from

872
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: the billionaires. Everybody gotta win everybody. You cannot win on

873
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: your own, bro, it just won't happen. Everybody gotta win it.

874
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: And us we like to be like little kids that

875
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: when you play with the boy, you me me me

876
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: me me me me Nah.

877
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: But you gotta pass that ship off, man. I mean

878
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 4: you do that effolessly like ever. I mean, your relationship

879
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: with Callage, we can see it. I was Colan d

880
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: we can see that. So we got the Rihanna thing.

881
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: What time you got to do that call Now?

882
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, oh, well, the Rihanna thing,

883
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: got that CLI and Luther. That's That's what I'm saying exactly.

884
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: So how did that go? You know, Luther's my idel man.

885
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: Luther is my favorite single of all time. And I

886
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: do believe because I sent those vibrations out my whole life.

887
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 2: So I've done like big interviews, bro, like TV awards whatever,

888
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: like big ship. You can google it. I've always put him,

889
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: even before Michael Jackson. I don't The last thing I'm

890
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: thinking is his family is seeing this, and the fat

891
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: Joe's a big figure, so I'm thinking they're seeing this

892
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: because they don't clear, right. So then when the sample

893
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: guy goes to them and say, yo, we got a sample.

894
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: You know, we don't clear and he was like, we want.

895
00:46:52,840 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: To do this, They're like, no, we that Joe.

896
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: They was like, we want to do this. And then

897
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: they had known about the amorphous uh mash up and

898
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: they was like, we love that little kid too, and

899
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: Joe's doing it with the kid that yeah, is Rihanna

900
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: gonna clear this? And that was like and then it

901
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: was just she cleared it. It wasn't a problem. And

902
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: then and and she sent the message. She sent the

903
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: message in my publish he said, he said they cleared it,

904
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: and she wants you to know she loves everybody.

905
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 5: I love Rihanna, Bro, everybody killing Bro?

906
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: How's everybody doing? It's the big big show man. What's

907
00:47:51,920 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: going on? Baby? How's my family doing out there? Well, listen,

908
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: let me tell you man, I appreciate y'all what y'all

909
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: done for me, my whole entire life. You know, I'm

910
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: indebted to y'all. You guys have always supported me. Kobe,

911
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: you gave me my first show ever, Flow Joe and

912
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: Cam then. I know we don't want to bore people

913
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: with the story, but my first show ever was you.

914
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: You know, I love you. We're family, and you know

915
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: I got this new song out and all I'm trying

916
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: to do is uplift the people and bring bring the

917
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: light out and make people have a fun time. You know,

918
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: we lost a lot of people. You know a lot

919
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: of people are depressed, they lost their jobs, and all

920
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: I try to do is make a song. This is

921
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: the first song I have ever made to just really

922
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: bring joy in people's.

923
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: Lives in the game.

924
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 5: So look at business and action. Yeah, so that what

925
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 5: just happened? The interlude? All right, tell us what just happened?

926
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: Because that was dope to actually wishes that.

927
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: All right, it's different radio groups. Is Radio one is one,

928
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: and then we got Doc Winters and so you know

929
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 2: they onn like thirty forty radio stations.

930
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: Clear channel, clear channel.

931
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: Clear channel is a little bit small, smaller, but it's

932
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: big like that too. Clear channel is big. And then

933
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: and so that was the call before. You know, every

934
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: week they add new records to radio. So that was

935
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: the call with like maybe twenty program directors. These are

936
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: the guys who pretty much are the wizard of ours.

937
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: They picked the records to get played. So every artist

938
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: goes and makes it pleted them and tell them what

939
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: their music's about and could you support us? And sometimes

940
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: they support, sometimes they don't. But you know, Fat Joe

941
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: has always been active in COVID. I can't do it,

942
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: but you know, I think I'm one of the only

943
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: artists that's been around as long as me and it's

944
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: been as successful as me, that still gets on the

945
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: and goes do promo tour and goes to every little

946
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: milk and cranny radio station. It's crazy because when I

947
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: talked to him, I just talked to a PD program

948
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: director from Providence, Rhode Island, two days ago, he does

949
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: rhythmic and he was like, yo, you know, you always

950
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: come in here and I'm talking to him. I visualize

951
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: the radio station and in Providence He's like, you always

952
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: get a diapepsi right there in that first machine and

953
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: then you come and I'm like, yeah, man, and you know,

954
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: but that that is part of it, you know, kissing babies,

955
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: going around, you know, and knowing everybody from the mailman

956
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: to the boss. And that's where some people mess up

957
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: because you know, and that's when you move out with

958
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: the regime. This is all about business. Regimes means somebody's

959
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: the boss, and you walk past everybody, you think you shit,

960
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: don't think you up there and you in with the boss.

961
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: And the boss is the boss for five years, ten years,

962
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: and you sit in the plus couch. But they fire

963
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: that guy, you go with him. You're done.

964
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 5: That's like when Yay when he was like Puerto Rico

965
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 5: three days probably with the TDS.

966
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: Now they got replay everybody.

967
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: Man, he went out there, everybody, whoever you name, Beyonce,

968
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: anybody like, you know, we need these guys, you know

969
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: what I mean. The way you get more streams, you

970
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: generate more money more than popularity that someone blows up

971
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: is through these guys playing your music, so you know

972
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: you got you know, smart artists, Uh, politics with them.

973
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: The difference with the young artists now they're more streaming

974
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: artists as to radio artists, so they feel like they

975
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 2: don't have to have a relationship with these radio guys

976
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: or whatever. They just put their music out and the streams.

977
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: You know, I believe in networking and any business you

978
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: you in it and you basically as good as your

979
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: last relationship.

980
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: So you talk about this a lot about the diversification

981
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 4: of your career. He said, it's like a pizza pot.

982
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: So you had managing careers. You obviously the executive he

983
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: started acting a little bit. Hopefully we're going to see

984
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 4: more of that.

985
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

986
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: And then obviously the sneaker stores. But touring has been

987
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 4: obviously with Covid out of the out of the mix.

988
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: And so you become a huge, huge I mean you

989
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 4: were obviously Joe Crapp before, but like on Instagram, big,

990
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 4: the big, big, big.

991
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: The big show. IM forgetting I don't get guys, I

992
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: only get like accolades, and you biged me up.

993
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you, gonna let you finish, but I

994
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 5: want to just make because I used to play ball,

995
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 5: so I'm a huge basketball Let's do that. And I

996
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: never forget, Uh, this is when the tournament one fifth

997
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 5: was popping. What was the name when Mousey started the

998
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: tournament try State. So that's the first time I actually

999
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 5: had seen him, and I already knew it was him

1000
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: because it was a Fano.

1001
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: I already knew.

1002
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: I want But I'll never forget the legendary Rutgers situation.

1003
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 5: I was actually there for that and with the jay

1004
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 5: Z situation blackout and the blackout day, well the next

1005
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 5: day after the blackout, and.

1006
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: I was when I won the championship championship. Yeah, don't

1007
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: forget that point.

1008
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 3: I was there.

1009
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: I was there and actually seven championships.

1010
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 5: I was there and the coach you know at that

1011
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 5: you know, as a player, I sucked.

1012
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea. Joe.

1013
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 5: Joe was there like fifty deep with the big t

1014
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 5: s Shain and you know, Brooklyn was heavy there, Like

1015
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: Brooklyn came heavy and he was like.

1016
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: Yo, jed of that. He was like, well, you're man

1017
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 2: that I'm here there.

1018
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: I was the legendary.

1019
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: Started that that guy referring.

1020
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 5: To that that was now I say that to say, yeah,

1021
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 5: that was that was great time just to witness that,

1022
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: because it was like, you see a lot of people

1023
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 5: you don't see in person.

1024
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: Some people what you're saying.

1025
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 2: When Joe was acting like that, you say, he's the

1026
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: real motherfucker. This guy's and in the middle of the

1027
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: ship like, Yo, what's ups go? I think that I'm

1028
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: not the I'm not the real I'm here, what's up?

1029
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: So I know Brooklyn got mad at me that day.

1030
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: They like this motherfucker out here flexing for real. And

1031
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: I was just really offended, you know, because I was like,

1032
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: you know, I had pretty much vitalized the Rucker. The

1033
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: Ruker had fell off for a couple of years, so

1034
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: I started putting in you know, I'm and there was

1035
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: bad business one on one if you're an artist watching.

1036
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: I loved the Rutgers so much and coaching the kids

1037
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: out there that I wouldn't do no shows in the summer. Meanwhile,

1038
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: they What's Love is number one in the world, and

1039
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: they offered me one hundred and fifty thousand to do

1040
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: a show and tours, and I'm like, nah, I got

1041
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 2: a cold at the Rucker and Steph coming to Steph coming.

1042
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: So it's like, so, I'm like, you know, I was

1043
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 2: out there and I put my heart into rebuilding this thing,

1044
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: and then here comes jay Zon and jay Z he

1045
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: win everything. He got the most beautiful chicken the world.

1046
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: He got. This guy just can't fucking lose, right, So

1047
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 2: he coming up in there. He had to know when

1048
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: he was coming in the ruck and it was gonna

1049
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: be a fat Joe jay Z situation. Plus we had

1050
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: unspeakable things in the past, the history right there was

1051
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: a big history and then it all calmed down and

1052
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: then he comes to the ruckers. So I'm like, I'm

1053
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: still young, I'm still on my bullshit, you know. Uh.

1054
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: And so he's coming in. I win the game and

1055
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: he got the next game. He's walking in, it's fucking

1056
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: Beyonce walking right behind me. Did He's dancing in the

1057
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: middle of the can take my ship straight up? I'm like,

1058
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: he came to take my ship. I had this ship

1059
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: on lock, right, And you know, once you come in,

1060
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something that happened to me that day

1061
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: that I had never seen. I was the King of

1062
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: the Brooker. I brought it back Allan stephan Orberry, whoever

1063
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 2: was whoever you thought of. I brought him out there.

1064
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: I brought this whole ship up. When I walked in

1065
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: that park that day, I seen a bunch of motherfuckers.

1066
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: No, I was deed, I said, because I.

1067
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 5: Was ever seen some people turn their back on me

1068
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 5: so fast. It was like, yeah, I was like, I

1069
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 5: was there. I was there, and I remember you got mad.

1070
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 5: He was like, where your man at? It's like Brooklyn,

1071
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 5: where your man at?

1072
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: My motherfuckers was waiting.

1073
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 5: Legend every moment because it was on the radio after

1074
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 5: the night the night before. With that, with that, I

1075
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 5: felt he came up. It was the night before. They

1076
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 5: was on the phone call and I think OG won

1077
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 5: and they was on the phone old you want Flex

1078
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: Jay and Shock and Shack call. Shock called talking crazy.

1079
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 5: But Shaq was lying because he wasn't there. And so

1080
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 5: I interviewed him recently for the Big Big Show and

1081
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 5: I see, yo, shack Man, how could you go against me?

1082
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 5: He said, I'm gonna tell you that you.

1083
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: I was not there. I was not going to play

1084
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: against you. Now, if Shaq wasn't there, game, they had

1085
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: Lebron if he was coming, but he was straight out

1086
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: of high school.

1087
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: I had Carmelo. They didn't really have. They had lou

1088
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: Flora has no I'm basketball feeling. I know because I

1089
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 5: was with them, because my straight out of my me

1090
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 5: and Francisco go see a shot to Francisco. I know

1091
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: who they had. They had to fashion tell for it

1092
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 5: they had, they didn't have it. He had, Bron wasn't there.

1093
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying that's what was supposed to be. But I'm

1094
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 5: saying the people that was physically there had Al Harrington, step.

1095
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: Step in the in the shoutou in the hotel room

1096
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: on fifty seventh Street. AI and Mike Bibby. This is

1097
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: when they both was you know, the biggest right, So

1098
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: they was down there waiting for me. So I was

1099
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: gonna bring him in the halftime Ai, my Biby just

1100
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: to fuck the park up straight. Hamilton. You know what

1101
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Coming at halftime, Hey, Mike, we had Zach Randolph,

1102
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: we had steph.

1103
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 3: We had Al harringon Harrington, he was there.

1104
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: Carmelo was on standby, he was coming to I mean,

1105
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: we we smashing them around it. Then my regular team,

1106
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: you know, Rayford, Austin a Butter Korea, you know, we

1107
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: had them.

1108
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: We had the boys out there probably he's the longest

1109
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: person tenure person that played with you.

1110
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fed. Joe would have never want to uh

1111
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: chip without career.

1112
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: You're not putting the team in Dykeman. His biggest, biggest

1113
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: his uh I get I'll get to that his i Q.

1114
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: We're smarter than everybody. So what I learned about basketball

1115
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: players is you could get the best, best, best physical

1116
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: guy could jump to the moon and back. But if

1117
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: they dumb when it's when when the chip is on

1118
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: the line, they're gonna fuck it up. They're gonna stink

1119
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: it up. Now you get somebody who's very very, very

1120
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: very talented. And if they're smart Kobe was smart. Smart players,

1121
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: if they smart Chris Paul Ship like that, they make

1122
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 2: the right play at the end of the chipron how

1123
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: they went on. Because I'm not imagining that.

1124
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: I'm like in the huddle in my mind, like when

1125
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: you're coaching these professionals, like what's like they're like, Joe,

1126
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: we got you.

1127
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: I take this serious. You can see my veins pop

1128
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: out head over here, and they know him. They know

1129
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: I'm worse than their coach because their coach, the coach

1130
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: looks at them like, Yo, this guy's work. I'm telling

1131
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: them Fagio screaming on nigga, Yo, don't come in you

1132
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: want to be pussy. You take that ship to the bay. Nigga. No,

1133
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm going crazy. And then one day Jay Smith came

1134
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: out there played against us. He might have scored fifteen

1135
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: points in the role like he was cooking. There's when

1136
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: he was on one and I ain't gonna lie. I

1137
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 2: was in the huddle and I loved Joe Smith. I

1138
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: was like, hurt that nigga. They were like, Yo, what

1139
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: do you mean, come up in there? Hit that. They

1140
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: hit that boy about three four times. The rest of

1141
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: the game. He was shooting three pointers and never come

1142
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: to that basket again. I was like, fuck, that hit him.

1143
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: Hit him. He got to feel that motherfucker. Then we

1144
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: had my brother Raoul. I don't know if you know Raoul.

1145
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: My brother Raoul, he wear a big t s JA.

1146
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: So Raoul was a bruiser. He don't even know basketball.

1147
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: Send him in there certain games just hacking niggas. He

1148
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: come up in there. He be the only reporter come

1149
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: up in there. The whole team started laughing, like, oh ship,

1150
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: Raoul going there. Hurt the motherfucker. He gonna make a

1151
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: feeling and one, but you're gonna fill that ship. They

1152
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: already know Yo doing this thing in there, man Rick mhonne.

1153
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: It's crazy, that is a fact. Man. Raoul, we used

1154
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: to do a little he had a big tears. We

1155
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: throw the jersey on him. You're going there, Raoul, take

1156
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: the blood out of his head. We had to hit

1157
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: a nigga about three four times. Come back out all right.

1158
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: They know to keep it. You know you ain't doing

1159
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: all that ship against us. That was a great to it.

1160
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 4: So I wanted to get to what was going on

1161
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: now with the big Big Show, the Big Show, because

1162
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 4: it's like it was a perfect time and obviously everybody's home,

1163
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: everybody's on I G. And uh, I'm trying to figure

1164
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 4: did you what made you decide to say? You know what,

1165
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm probably the greatest, one of the greatest storytellers that

1166
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: this game has ever seen. I need to share these

1167
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: stories with the world via I G. What was that process?

1168
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: Like, I've always been one of the greatest storyteller And

1169
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: so when you get somebody like Kanye West calls me

1170
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 2: just to tell them stories in the studio.

1171
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 5: And tell me your story, Kanye different tell me your

1172
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 5: story for you the inspiration right now for Rell.

1173
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: Forrell used to call me to the studio just to

1174
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: be sitting there like yoga. I tell you to drug

1175
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: dealer story. Tell me y'all ship over here about I was.

1176
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: I've always been behind the scenes, the best, one of

1177
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: the best. So I give it three. I give Nori,

1178
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: I give IRV Gotti, and I give fat joke.

1179
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 5: You know, we got thrown there the best story that

1180
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 5: we've come across personally. I thought you saw music we've

1181
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 5: come across personal Chris Gotti the same things, dynamic, legendary, No, no,

1182
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 5: he is.

1183
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: Legendary, but he's not better than Nerve. Herv is the one.

1184
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Chris, Chris is, Chris is.

1185
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hours hours We're told Chris and Erve

1186
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean. So yeah, that family.

1187
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: So you know, we always been the best storytellers. And

1188
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: I've always known that. I've had the ability to have

1189
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: fifty cent just told me that the other day. I've

1190
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: always had the ability to, like, when I tell you something,

1191
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: you can actually see it. That's actually how I've always

1192
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: made my music too, because I always my best friend

1193
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: is in jail for life, right so I always made

1194
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: my music and wonder how he would where would it

1195
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: take him? In his cell Like he could turn on

1196
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,959
Speaker 2: his headphones and he listened, and he feels like he's there.

1197
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. And that's how I've always

1198
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 2: done my stories. It's like, you know, just to take

1199
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: you there, like you could feel like, y'all, I was

1200
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: really there. That shit crazy. He's explained there, I can

1201
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: see this shit. You know what I'm saying in your

1202
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: own mind. And the big big show was it was

1203
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: COVID really really scared, you know, pre diabetic shit was

1204
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: just killing every fat dude in the world. I knew

1205
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: every diabetic, every scary and stuck home. I wouldn't go outside.

1206
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: I would not go outside, right, And then one day

1207
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: I put on my live and I have fun with

1208
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: Talking Ship and then my daughter and Dre was like,

1209
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: you need to go on again, tom right next day,

1210
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: I know, three days later, we had a show. He

1211
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, it's the big, big show. It's on

1212
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: every day at eight o'clock. And we got sponsorship. Right,

1213
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: So now that the tour money now becomes sponsor money.

1214
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 2: In the yeah, I might have made as much money.

1215
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: Maybe perhaps perhaps perhaps I might as I might as

1216
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: equal to my tour money without tourings and home just

1217
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 2: doing like the big, big show, and that has letter

1218
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: to other things. You know, we Trilla, Wi Wild, Cherry

1219
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: Pepsi Talent show, you know, just led into all this.

1220
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: Like you know, people are like, oh, social media, you

1221
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So a bunch of a bunch

1222
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 2: of bads.

1223
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 4: And the people that watch you, now it's not like, Yo,

1224
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 4: they know you from music, they know you from this.

1225
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 4: It's like, this is the personality, this is a show.

1226
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: And there was always a big injustice, you know, to

1227
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: the fans because when I grew up, like you see

1228
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: in my lifestyle, I said, back then when I wentn't

1229
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: even posed for pictures, you know what. I many times

1230
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: I've been next to Tupot Biggie and it was like

1231
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: the wax ship to ask for a pick, like and show.

1232
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: Everything at that time was about privacy. I would literally

1233
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: come if I came in here years ago and they

1234
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: was having an advance, I was staying in the corner

1235
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: because I didn't know y'all. Y'all would be like, yo,

1236
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: that's one motherfucker, and I would just sit there and

1237
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: just be like they. It didn't allow us to be

1238
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: our true personality. And as she just went by and

1239
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: through social media, everybody could open up and do a

1240
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 2: little something. You know how many people just heard my music,

1241
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: but now they see the show and be like, damn,

1242
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: I ain't noticed, dude, that's you're crazy. Man. Do it

1243
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 2: for a minute, Yeah, it's so. And so it allows

1244
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: me to show you my real personality.

1245
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 5: Before we ended. I want I want to go on

1246
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,959
Speaker 5: a teachable moment. That's a finance moment. It's an unfortunate moment,

1247
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 5: but I think people can learn from it. When you

1248
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 5: went to jail for a couple of months, and from

1249
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 5: my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, that's that's financial

1250
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 5: related because I guess your CPA wasn't paying the taxi.

1251
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: It was the one time I didn't do the crime.

1252
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: I've done many crimes want me to do. I'm not

1253
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. That's the one time I did

1254
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: not do the crime. It's the craziest ship in the world.

1255
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: What exactly happened.

1256
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: I had an accountant. Every month, I'm sending them wire transfers, well,

1257
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: wire transfers from your bank account to them is a

1258
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: paper traip. I'm sending them money to pay my taxes

1259
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: and everything every month, you know, twenty five thousand, big money.

1260
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: And one day I go to buy a car, and

1261
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: so I was more embarrassed than anything. So that the

1262
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 2: guy from the car dealer was like, are you sitting down?

1263
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: And I'm la. Says here, you haven't paid for none

1264
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: of your houses, your mortgages, says here, you haven't paid

1265
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: none of your car notes. Says here. I'm like, are

1266
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: you crazy? Like are you nuts? So I call up

1267
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: the account. When I called him up, he said, don't

1268
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: kill me. Don't kill me. I said, I'll never threatened you, bro,

1269
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 2: don't kill me, I said, bro, I send you wire

1270
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: transfers every month. It's saying you ain't paying my shit,

1271
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: like are you fucking serious? Like boom. So from that

1272
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: point had to go. I called Pitbull. Pit Bull gave

1273
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: me his account right around here. Who's still my account

1274
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: to this day. When it went there, it was like

1275
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: this is bad, Joe. This man they pay you your

1276
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: taxes in two years. And so, uh, we contacted the

1277
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: IRS and told them, yo, we have an accountant. We

1278
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: got to proof the wire transfers. You know, we want

1279
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: to pay up to date when we alarmed them. And

1280
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 2: so the next day it came to my house. I

1281
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: was in the studio with court train and my wife

1282
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: calls me a nervous She's like, Joe, the feds are here,

1283
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 2: Like the feds. You know, I don't know what they

1284
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: so like the Feds. I was like, Yo, put them

1285
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: on the phone. So the guy gets on the phone. Joe,

1286
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: where you at? I said, what you mean? Like, yeah,

1287
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: we want to talk to you. Where you at? I

1288
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: said about what he said? You know these the taxes.

1289
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, you know we contacted you.

1290
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 2: You know my account, we contacted you. He's like, no,

1291
01:08:58,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: this is criminals.

1292
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: So now I'm know stop talking.

1293
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 2: Once he said it scriminal, I was like, yo, I said,

1294
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm officer. I'm gonna have lawyer call you.

1295
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: Right after this, he was like, bo where you said? Bro?

1296
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 2: You in my house, Bro and my family. I can't

1297
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: go nowhere. In fact, Joe and famous, my lawyer'll call you.

1298
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: So my lawyer called them. Long story short, my lawyer

1299
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: met with them and showed them the wider chances of

1300
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: the guy Robbie and didn't pay my ship. And they

1301
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: was like, hey man, we believe Joe as the leader

1302
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: of his household. It's responsible for who he hires. And

1303
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: so instead of trying to really rock him, we're gonna

1304
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: give him two misdemeanors and he can get two years

1305
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: in jail or get probation, pressing luck. So I wound

1306
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: up having already gave this dude the money to pay.

1307
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: So I wound up paying these taxes again that already

1308
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 2: paid before my court day. So I wound up paying

1309
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: a million in two hundred thousand before I go see

1310
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: the judge. So now I know other people had these problems.

1311
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: They only got probation and never went to jail or whatever.

1312
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: So with the greatest letters you ever heard of your

1313
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 2: life with the Feds, you won't vouch for him in

1314
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: the FEDS. You won't if you knew he was guilty.

1315
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,480
Speaker 2: You'd be like, yo, bro, you with the sheeps, nobody

1316
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: writes a letter for nobody in the Feds. Nobody. They'd

1317
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: be like, yo, piece of the God, piece of God

1318
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: season when you get home, bro, like I'm gonna hold

1319
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: you down out of him. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1320
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: I ain't got ship to do with this, because you know,

1321
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: we all know that the Fed you get niggas hot.

1322
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 2: That's how it happened. You get me high, I get

1323
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: him how you get him stairway right? The letters they

1324
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: wrote for me. I never realized I had donated so

1325
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: much money to people. It was like, so there was

1326
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: a guy when he was in prison. Uh his name

1327
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: is Terrence. When he was in prison, and he uh

1328
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: uh noticed that parents and family could not see their kids,

1329
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: you know, due to they didn't have to travel with it.

1330
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 2: Long story short, I gave this guy a fucking a

1331
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 2: bus right ade society hundreds of thousands of hurricanes and

1332
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: fucking Santo Domingo and Haiti hundreds of thousands, like and

1333
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: so all these people were writing letters on my behalf

1334
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: like Yo, this guy's the best. This guy gives back

1335
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: to the schools computers. This guy this I don't know

1336
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 2: how I went to jail, bro. And so the lady

1337
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: was like, listen, great guy, actually remarkable, and you should

1338
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: do this is what she fucked me up at. But

1339
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: you can't really argue with the judge. Right when you're

1340
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 2: about to give the turn, she says, you knew your

1341
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: knew wealth should be found with your families and your

1342
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 2: friends My family was, My friends and family was in

1343
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: the courtroom like three hundred deep. They shut that bitch down.

1344
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: CALLI was in there. Everybody you know, aunts and uncles,

1345
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: you know how you got them aunt and uncles that

1346
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: never leave that crib, that never leave that hood. They

1347
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: was in that motherfucker for me. My family was in

1348
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: there deep. Nigga flew in from Florida, from every the

1349
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: niggas was in there like yo boom. So she was like,

1350
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 2: I gotta give you this time. So they only gave

1351
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 2: me four months.

1352
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 5: But and.

1353
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: When I walked in there because I had paid it off,

1354
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 2: they had gave me a penalty. So they said it

1355
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: was a penalty. There's nowhere I couldn't cop out if

1356
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: I didn't take this penalty. The penalty was a million too.

1357
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,799
Speaker 5: You paid a million two in taxes and then another

1358
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 5: million two in a penalty, and you already have to.

1359
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 2: Mention five hundred thousand for the lawyer and to mention

1360
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: fifty thousand for the the forensic.

1361
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 5: The money that you already paid previously, that you thought

1362
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 5: you actually paid happen with that.

1363
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 3: He just robbed you. Just he was just to taking

1364
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: the money.

1365
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: Bernie made off Ponzi skin. So he wound up telling

1366
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 2: on a bunch of other motherfuckers that and he got away.

1367
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: Like so, you know, I never heard about him, I

1368
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 2: never seen.

1369
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't get jail turn. I don't think so,

1370
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know.

1371
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: They just was like, you can't ask about it, damn,

1372
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: because you know, normally I think you can assume him,

1373
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: like now he's with us, you can't ask protection.

1374
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 4: On top of the money that you lost for actually

1375
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 4: being incarcerated, you could have been outside rhythm.

1376
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: So when I come home from jail, because I'm pretty

1377
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: much do everything but sell my asshole to pay these

1378
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: people before I go to sentencing. Right, so when I

1379
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: do four months in jail, I come home, I'm working Africa,

1380
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: the slav poland China. There wasn't a stone on turned.

1381
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: They had the fact Joe Show, Philip Peens like anywhere

1382
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: I was going to get that bad because I'm not

1383
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: used to you know, I'll tell you other the streets

1384
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: is at fourteen, I'm not used to my money being low.

1385
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: I'm not used to my family ever asking one thing.

1386
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: I can say, God bless my family never realized that

1387
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 2: we had a problem. Wife was still getting burking bags.

1388
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: You know, my daughter was still going to private school,

1389
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: my son to private college. I was bussing my ass

1390
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: to make sure everybody. So at the end of this year,

1391
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: so I do four months when I go to the

1392
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: eighth month, I mean eight months later to do my taxes.

1393
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 2: They congratulations, you had a hell of a year last year.

1394
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: You made a million two. I said, I made a

1395
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: million two. I'm broke. What are you talking about? You

1396
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: made a million too. You just paid us, so now

1397
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: you got to you gotta pay the half on that.

1398
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: So it's just like a spiral. It never ending, never

1399
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: ever didn't thank God, when all the way up came out,

1400
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't like I was all the way up. I

1401
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 2: made sure they was all the way up. So the

1402
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 2: first thing I do I was a taking no money.

1403
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was just saving Boom came to them

1404
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 2: with that penalty one point two million. Now I'm a

1405
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: free man. Now now I'm gonna give me the funk alone,

1406
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, and I've been great, thank God, ever since.

1407
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 4: I can't end on that though, because I mean that

1408
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 4: that story is crazy, but we got to end on

1409
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 4: something else. You've been consistent and that's your fresh being fly.

1410
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't miss a day.

1411
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: I told you.

1412
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: I told you Detroit Red cleaned up.

1413
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean I go in stores and I'm just like, yo, man,

1414
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: there's no where you finding these sizes. How does Joey

1415
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: krat stays to relish on Instagram styles? Calid? That's what

1416
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: we get in these silk shirts. Now, you know there's

1417
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: different ways, man. You know I've been you know, I

1418
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 2: used unfortunately it's sad to say, but I used to

1419
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: hustle to buy sneakers and fly. You know, I came

1420
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: out in the ear where everybody was really really fly,

1421
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: and so we always been, you know what I'm saying,

1422
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: risking our lives to be fly. You know what I'm saying.

1423
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: And now that I'm legit and I make enough money

1424
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 2: to be flying, I mean, you know you are literally

1425
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: going to walk to the casket saying, Yo, he don't

1426
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: play and I don't got a power. I blow the bag.

1427
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm fixing it. I don't like yo. I told you,

1428
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 2: I told, I said, YO. Wife looked at YO. She

1429
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 2: like that was a burning bag on my She said,

1430
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: that's her mass silk. That pink silk is different. I said, yo.

1431
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't know where you get any clothes like that

1432
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: Fendy ship. This linen I got her mass sneakers on.

1433
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love it. I dress up for anything.

1434
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: During COVID, I was coming downstairs to my house for

1435
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: the second floor to the first I was coming down

1436
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 2: with the with the get fresh for no reason.

1437
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 3: That's how I cam. He was like my man on

1438
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 3: house arrest, get him fly and you don't care in

1439
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: the house.

1440
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 5: He's fresh, like about to some cereal media dress just

1441
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 5: cause just to watch, just to fresh, you know what

1442
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

1443
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to welcome Y'll to Miami with his ship

1444
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: because I'm in Miami. But uh, you know New York.

1445
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: I know how to pull all a pair of TEMs

1446
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 2: and fly hoodie.

1447
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: Just don't.

1448
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: They don't.

1449
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 4: They don't feel the same with this, with this Miami

1450
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: breeze there just feel a little bit better.

1451
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: Yesterday I painted so graffiti writers with sneakers that they

1452
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: know the pain is going to get on. They wear

1453
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: clothes with pain already, like they ain't messing up that

1454
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: artists got jo can fly Yeah yeah at the paintel

1455
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: ship like I'm up in there. They looking at me

1456
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: I know they looking at me like I'm crazy. They're like, yo,

1457
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: this is crazy man, this guy he too much. But

1458
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it and my whole fly.

1459
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: You can't about being fly. You know. My stylis he's

1460
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: like my brother. You know, my wife's best friend. Like

1461
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: my brother. He's always flying. He should. There's a trick.

1462
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,520
Speaker 2: Let me tell you business watching, there's a trick the stylist.

1463
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: He can give you the ship, but come give it

1464
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: to you. They got some ship on the killing ship.

1465
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 2: They gave you so you could always feel like, yo,

1466
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: you get that, Torell. Oh God. So I'm gonna tell

1467
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: you what I did for the video. How it got

1468
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 2: so fly? Right? I said, Yo, Torell, and I picked

1469
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 2: out you can you can see it in your face, like, yeah,

1470
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: But what happened was I told Torell, I said, I

1471
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: need the outfit you're gonna wear if you were going

1472
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: to a stylist birthday party. Sometimes stylist stylists what I'm saying,

1473
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: my brother, Torell, he'll go to a birthday party of

1474
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: another stylist and walk in there like a fucking alien,

1475
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: like floating with some purple food ship. Yeah, he walks

1476
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 2: in there and then they're like, damn this dude that

1477
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 2: I said to her, that's how we got looked at

1478
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: the video. You gotta look like you went to the

1479
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: stylist party styled on that. And I'm glad you because

1480
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: I think and I spent, because I spent a lot

1481
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 2: of money year, and I'll be thinking nobody.

1482
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: Noticed my man, My man might be shouting key shalking

1483
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 3: you today.

1484
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,919
Speaker 2: Be my brother from my neighborhood.

1485
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: He just he just styled the shout that might be.

1486
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 3: That's ironic because he literally just posted a post.

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Speaker 2: He did what he said. It was you, it was

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01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: you wearing That's that Dapper Dad, That's what that was.

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Speaker 3: Still inspired.

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Speaker 2: That's when Dapper Dad first came home and he was

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01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: still he wasn't with Gucci yet. Cool that freestyle freestyle,

1492
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: it's a swite, it's a swipe.

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01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 3: And then he did the l It was U l

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 3: l u l l It's like a it's like a swipe,

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Speaker 3: sit swife.

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Speaker 2: Earlier in the morning, could barely feel my face cutting

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Speaker 2: that wrong wrang hammer on my waist, my baby mama stressing.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, get the get the fuck up out my face.

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Speaker 2: Fans on my ass, now about to catch a case.

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01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm allergic to the bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Big show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yo.

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Speaker 5: I might have to post that light the light, the light.

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Speaker 5: Let the light led to this light be posted in

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Speaker 5: this time. That's a fact, yo, Joe Man. We want

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Speaker 5: to thank you brother, thank you so much time.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your man. What would you like to tell the people?

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Speaker 2: I like to tell them staying the light, standing the

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Speaker 2: light man, to stay positive and just know that your

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Speaker 2: darkest moments bring your most clarity. You got to stay

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Speaker 2: in the game. You never know, and so business one

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Speaker 2: on one, I'll tell you Doctor j lost step for records.

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Speaker 2: He was back at nothing. He went and found you

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Speaker 2: might have made the billion dollars from anybody who be

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Speaker 2: happy with that. He stopped, he stood in you never know,

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Speaker 2: kept going and made the beat and made a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: So you gotta stay in the game. You never know.

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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