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Speaker 1: through the games, starting with the losers. I know everyone

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Speaker 1: in the chat wants to come after us because we

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Speaker 1: have so been all about the Panthers. And we got

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Speaker 1: fucking kicked in the dick, and then we got stomped,

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Speaker 1: and then we got our head smashed in, and then

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Speaker 1: someone reached deep deep down our throats and pulled our

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Speaker 1: stomach out and then squeezed the juice is on our

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Speaker 1: face and we melted. That's how disgusting it was. And

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even as bad as what the Panthers did

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Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 2: Shut up, shut up.

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Speaker 3: I felt like we were tired in the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: We believe the panthers bad luck with penalties and turnovers

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Speaker 1: could not continue. We believe the offensive line would be better,

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Speaker 1: receivers would be better, coaching would be better, Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: would be better. Simon, everything bad last season for the

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Speaker 1: Panthers was bad in this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I have family members that I barely talk

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Speaker 4: to that barely even watch football, texting me, how the

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Speaker 4: hell did you like this Panthers team? I always like,

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Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, this is not where we want to go.

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Speaker 4: I've had a couple of fans reach out to US

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Speaker 4: NASA US. Why don't we simply every week bet against

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Speaker 4: the Panthers and see if that works, because clearly would.

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Speaker 2: Have worked last year, and it's off to a hot

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Speaker 4: I say not to overreact too much to one game,

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Speaker 4: but I think, I mean, you both agree Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: this guy doesn't really fit the part.

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Speaker 2: So I know you have a little bit of rant

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Speaker 2: about bry S Young here, Chad, but I'm.

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Speaker 4: With the fans. I don't care that next week. We

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Speaker 4: both think there's value on the line. I'm not betting them.

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Speaker 4: I'm not giving them out on the show. So go ahead, Chaed.

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Speaker 1: Well look right now, Carolina, I think is what's the lion.

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Speaker 1: It's five and a half at home. They're plus five

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Speaker 1: look at that number and you have to say to yourself, yeah,

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Speaker 3: We're not going to recommend that. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Last year, the Panthers averaged just four point one yards

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: They had three point five yards per play today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Evan for putting that in our chat here. Look,

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Speaker 1: we can go through the stats and believe all of

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Speaker 1: the things that I said are true about the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Better coaching, better talent around Bryce Young, he's just awful.

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Speaker 1: Like that first look, first throw interception. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like there's no urgency. This is in when he's in

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Speaker 1: They start to step up. They're sliding left, they're sliding right,

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not trying to make fun of the guy. No,

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Speaker 1: he's just he's terrible at this.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it's the same reason like I talked about.

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Speaker 4: You know last year right had a second round great

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Speaker 4: in the guys, if you want to be a first

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Speaker 4: round pick, there's always one thing this guy does great, right,

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Speaker 4: better than everyone else?

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Speaker 2: C J. Stroud.

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Speaker 4: The two best things will see the shot is his

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Speaker 4: pocket pocket awareness and his accuracy deep down the field.

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Speaker 2: Brayshung coming out. He was just good at everything, right,

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that what they told us? Jad?

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Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, but what's he great at? And

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Speaker 4: when you watch this stuff, he's not great at anything. Right.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have great pocket awareness, hasn't great move in

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Speaker 4: the in the pocket, he doesn't have great arm talent. Right,

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Speaker 4: there was guys open today that he was missing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Got burned bad today on them for a decent amount

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Speaker 4: keep it moving because I don't want to waste any

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Speaker 4: more time on them. I'm just totally discussing what I

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Speaker 4: saw today, and I'm hoping tomorrow next week. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's a new team that was just a one off, right,

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Speaker 4: that's the hope, because we actually bet on their futures.

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Speaker 2: But right now, zero confidence and Bryce Shawan.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem. And I like to wallow in my misery.

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Speaker 1: Like I felt so sick all day that about this

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Speaker 1: game and about this bet and how much we touted

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Speaker 1: this team, and like it just I'm in agony about it.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to I just want to get

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Speaker 1: it all out, like they made the New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 1: who we genuinely believe are not good, right, and their

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr first long pass, sixty yards touchdown. Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: looked like a world beater today against this team. Dennis

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Speaker 1: Allen didn't have to be a bad coach because he

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Speaker 3: They were up thirty to three at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Like the Panthers did everything that the Panthers did the

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Speaker 1: previous year. The game was not out of hand in

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Speaker 1: the first half, and they had a really smartly designed

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Speaker 1: Miles Sanders ran for a first down on a long

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Speaker 1: back to the Saints they had I think they were

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Speaker 1: down twenty to nothing, So like not over right still

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Speaker 1: first half. If you believe in the team, we believe

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Speaker 1: in the coach. We think they've got some talent. It's

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Speaker 1: not over fumble on a reverse after they gain a

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Speaker 1: first down, Like every single time with this team, they're

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Speaker 1: just like none of them look like they know how

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Speaker 1: to play. It's like you go to Carolina and you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that just when it starts going bad though,

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Speaker 2: it just goes terrible. Right, They're just terrible. They don't

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Speaker 2: have any real leadership. That's probably another issue for this team.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of terrible, we were on the Giants today

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Speaker 1: at plus one and a half. We almost pulled it

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Speaker 1: to sort of why we didn't and games that we

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Speaker 1: which is another thing that's making even more sick.

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Speaker 3: When did Sam Darnold become Sam? I am the man?

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Speaker 1: Because he started ten for ten, like I think he

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Speaker 1: had two incompletions of the whole game and threw for

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Speaker 3: Down time touchdown throat. That's what all world qbs do.

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Speaker 1: Did we see anything here that justified the confidence we

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Speaker 1: Did we fool ourselves? Do we misread?

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Speaker 3: Like? Are we off for too?

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Speaker 1: On the teams that we were convinced might have some value?

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Speaker 4: I would say Daniel Jones definitely looked rusty. I thought

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Speaker 4: he would be rusty, but I thought overall they'd played better.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like you just nailed.

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold started the game temper ten and he was

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Speaker 4: on fire. And then he did eventually turn back into

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Speaker 4: a pumpkin. He threw a pick and he just like

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Speaker 4: the second half, they didn't do anything like they were

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Speaker 2: Once they got to pick six off.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, it's like, all right, we don't need to

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Speaker 4: in because they knew that their defense was good enough

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Speaker 4: that they really needed to do much.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think that was the most surprising part to me

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Speaker 4: is that, you know, Brian Flores had this defense play

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Speaker 4: amazing last year. I thought naturally they'd regress just because

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Speaker 4: they played so of obviously that's not great. Littin the test, right,

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Speaker 4: it's Daniel Jones and his first started for coming back

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Speaker 4: off a major injury, which we don't have talk. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to it, probably that Pittsburgh game. But like you

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Speaker 4: saw Kirk Cousins, right, he looked rusty. Like coming off

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Speaker 4: major injuries in your first start, you play rusty.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I love the.

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Speaker 4: Under in this game, love the Giants, like I just

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Speaker 4: had a game scripted the other way. Honestly, I thought

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Speaker 4: that the Giants would be the ones playing well and

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Speaker 4: Right we got caugh up there with the Giants, but

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. Like once it started, it's always our realization

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Speaker 2: It was never a good number. That was just a

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Speaker 1: Now, Daniel Jones was what twenty two or forty two

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Speaker 1: do think this rage is, you know, an interesting coaching

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Speaker 1: they had justin Jefferson to me this year, This game

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Speaker 4: You could say that, but it's also just you talked

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Speaker 4: It's not like the secondary of the Vikings is that

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Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, I don't want to make

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Speaker 2: You just said it.

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Speaker 4: They went ninety nine yards. Like Sam Donald goes ninety

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Speaker 4: nine yards, you ain't winning your bet.

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Speaker 2: That's your dead.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, like you said, you eat some humble pie

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Speaker 2: But two games are not gonna rereacting. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: this much. The books respect this Vikings team.

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Speaker 4: I saw a couple of lines open, you know them

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Speaker 4: interesting team that could be a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about that in a minute.

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Speaker 1: So you said it about the Giants defensive back.

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Speaker 3: Just one thing. I was watching this game and.

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Speaker 1: The Giants had stopped the Vikings on third down, you know,

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Speaker 3: They're going to go for the field goal.

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Speaker 3: And it was such a actually.

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Speaker 1: just said everything to me about yeah, that's a dead bet,

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Speaker 3: This was an amazing game, amazing game.

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Speaker 4: Amazing game, and nothing was breaking right for us in

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Speaker 1: I mean we literally that says something though that says

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Speaker 3: To talk about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it says a lot about Anthony Richardson. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: You know, he.

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Speaker 4: Lost that game, like he kept him in it, but

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Speaker 4: end of the day, he is the reason they lost.

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Speaker 4: Like Shane Styken call it an amazing game. Like there

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Speaker 4: was multiple times he had wide open guys and then

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Speaker 4: And I love Dumiko Ryans. That's why they're a team

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Speaker 4: I was scared of coming to this year. He don't care,

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Speaker 1: You're talking about you're talking about the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: They're up the very one of the game thing, and

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Speaker 1: They go for it, and we needed them to go

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Speaker 3: Play that out.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty two to nothing, they kick the field goal,

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Speaker 2: So it's funny your brand works.

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Speaker 4: There were on the other way where I wanted them

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Speaker 4: All the momentum is all on the Colts and they

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Speaker 4: So I was happy they went I for it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: shame on me. They called the perfect play. Stephan Diggs

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Speaker 4: All the pieces they added, Joe Mix and Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 4: questions coming to hear about their defense. None was answered, right.

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Speaker 4: That was such a weird game where it's like, did they.

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Speaker 4: So Houston, they're exciting, But I think I still think

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Speaker 4: How so many Domino pieces fell in that game to

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you said this about Daniel Jones, the same

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Speaker 1: You never feel with Anthony Richardson like you're out of

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Speaker 3: In the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and follows it up with a sixty yard bomb

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Speaker 3: They end up losing twenty nine to twenty seven. We

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Speaker 1: So I never like we're gonna want to continue to

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Speaker 1: They had like a third down and eleven or something

440
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: just after the two minute warning. They convert that play,

441
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: they win the game.

442
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: They don't.

443
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: They got a punt, Indy's got an opportunity to run

444
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: to go down the field and kick a field goal.

445
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: He rose a dot that a guy catches, gets his

446
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: knee down.

447
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: Nico Collins ride one hundred and seventeen yards. Incredible game.

448
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: Dude, Like c J. Stroud is just different.

449
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: He's just different. He started the game eight for nine.

450
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: That changes the calculus on everything.

451
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: No wonder. The Texans are sixteen to one.

452
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: No wonder. I wanted to bet them in all my

453
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchups because he can. He can, he can

454
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: cover up any weaknesses that the defense has, I mean.

455
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: Especially for him.

456
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: That was a bad game by him, honestly, by even

457
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: his own standors, like they're taking threes, and he kept

458
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: saying that, like, we can't keep taking these threes again.

459
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: That's why I think Demiico Ryans into that game went

460
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 4: for that because he was just like, I'm not kicking

461
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 4: another field goal and the inside the red zone, we're

462
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 4: going for it here.

463
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: So look, also had two picks overturned right one one

464
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: was ruled in.

465
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: Again, that's what I kept thinking, we weren't going to

466
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: get a chat, like it just kept not going our way,

467
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 4: Like this guy picks it, incredible pick and it's like nope,

468
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 4: your heel actually just touched out, and it's like, oh

469
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: my god, I can't get.

470
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: Then another one, the guy picked him off in the

471
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: red zone and they called it back because they called

472
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: the penalty on them. We got So that's why we're

473
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: one and two. We got the Colts, right, dreadful with

474
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Giants. We're going to move on

475
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours. We're going to start

476
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: getting excited about next week.

477
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, typical.

478
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: That was the only two games we got wrong on

479
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 4: the one pm slate, so that it was making.

480
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: Me sick watching these things. Yeah, we got two games remaining.

481
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 1: We got the Lions minus three and a half. That

482
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: line's out to five, so we feel good about the

483
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: number Jets we got it.

484
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: That better worked out because that was the reason we

485
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: did not switch out the Giants, because we wanted to

486
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 4: keep that three and a half right.

487
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: So what happened was this morning, Simon and I were

488
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: going over the slate and one of the games like

489
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: really the game that we had talked about that we

490
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: kept looking at and like, why aren't we talking more

491
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: about this game with Jags at three and a half.

492
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: So obviously we did bet that game. We didn't take

493
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: it out because we liked the Lions at three and

494
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: a half. The value was there and a lot of

495
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: the lines to change, like if we if we changed

496
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: up our picks, we would have had to take the

497
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: lines at four and a half, and we didn't want

498
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Speaker 1: to lose that because we liked it so much. So

499
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: it's tough, but the Jags, like, the Jags were so

500
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: much better and then Travis atn bundles the ball at

501
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: the two yard Linde when they're going up twenty four

502
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: to seven, they kind of lost their way.

503
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: They only had one pass after that.

504
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: They like Trevor Lawrence was brilliant in the first half,

505
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: ended up with less than two hundred yards and twelve completions.

506
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson went forward in his own like thirty yard

507
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: line on fourth down with a lot of time left, Like,

508
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: what happened here?

509
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: This? They should have dominated this game.

510
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: It's the Miami heat.

511
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: They put you in the sun when they're in the

512
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: shade and they cook you, and whatever happened, I have

513
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 4: to blame the heat.

514
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: The man lost his mind. Doug Pierson lost his mind.

515
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence was really having a good game, honestly, really

516
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: had in that first half.

517
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: Dude, when he was in that first half, I'm like,

518
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, twenty two to one those passing yard.

519
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: We got this locked.

520
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: So that's what happened.

521
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: No, I just like it just it was all smooth,

522
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 4: and like you said, they got away from their identity

523
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: in the second half, and it's like I went back

524
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 4: and watched. I mean, I guess you could say they

525
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: were getting a lot more pressure in the second half Miami,

526
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: and maybe that's why, you know, Douglas Trunk counter that

527
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: was running the ball more. But no, that's that's a

528
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: classic case of they're just that's a bad team that

529
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: lost a bad game, right, Like if they if they

530
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 4: had kind of been a different team this year, that's

531
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: kind of game you need to close out and win.

532
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 2: Right, that's a playoff team.

533
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: From last year in Miami. Yeah, you had them on

534
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: the ropes the whole game.

535
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: You're dominating.

536
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: Like you said, you fumbled out of the back of

537
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 4: the end zone. Okay, that's a turning point. They come

538
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 4: down the field, tire kill whoever it was, scored a touchdown.

539
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: Then you bounce back right. Then you come back out

540
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: there and you drive the field and get at least

541
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: a field goal there like you said, nothing Like they've

542
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 4: threed and now punted the rest.

543
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: Of the game.

544
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: And you know, Miami didn't play that well, but they

545
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: took advantage and they found a way to win. And

546
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: that's and then of the day. That's what makes great

547
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 4: teams for football. Like if you just somehow can find

548
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: a way to win on your worst day, you're a

549
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: really good team. So yeah, hats off to Miami and

550
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: just the coaching staff, like they kept their guys in it.

551
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: Tua never broke right. He was struggling as well. He

552
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: was having a bad game game, stuck with it, like

553
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: he was missing open guys too, and he stuck with him.

554
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter, he was on point, like making

555
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 4: big throws. And you know, Devon a Chan like another

556
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 4: guy that you know last year couldn't stay healthy, right,

557
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 4: but everyone knows a talent level. He really showed up

558
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: in that second half as well. I mean he was

559
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 4: running the ball so well. So huge game from Miami,

560
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: But I mean you were pissed because we knew that

561
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: was a good cover number. That was a good number

562
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: three and a half on two what we viewed as

563
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 4: equally even teams, and that number was never in doubt, right,

564
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: whatever it was, I think it was a six yard

565
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: field goal to win it by Miami. So yeah, could

566
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: just anyone that took the three and a half.

567
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Those games, the Jags and the Colts basically ended back

568
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: to back on red zone. They were the two box

569
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: at the end, and I'm like, I need I need

570
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: both of these games, not just for the contest, but

571
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: just for my slate of bets today. I need them

572
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: for my lungs. The only thing I can take solace

573
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: in is that I only went half a unit on

574
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: the Giants because I just like at the end of the.

575
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: Day, I'm jealous.

576
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: I just I just believing and like, look, but that's

577
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: the worst.

578
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: Thing too, that like we said though, like I'm minute

579
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 4: in I was, even though they they were up three,

580
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: I just regretted it. I was like, why am I

581
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: so heavy on Daniel Jones? So you made the right

582
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: move there. But we're gonna Bears game. We're gonna get

583
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: to this Bears game or what talk about.

584
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing about the Steelers.

585
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you your flat hours for the Bears. Uh,

586
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: shame on us. On Tuesday, We're like, we like the

587
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Jags and we like the Steelers. Why aren't we doing

588
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: the Jags and the Steelers? And then all week we

589
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: talked about this is a Mike Tomlin makes it ugly,

590
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: wins is an underdog game. This is what he has

591
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: done for sixteen seventeen years. He is the best coach

592
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: against the spread as a dog. He is the best

593
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: coach outright as a dog in the past twenty years,

594
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: better than Belichick, better than Sean Payton, better than Mike Vrabel,

595
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: better than all the coaches who have dominated for betters.

596
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Let the greatest of all time. Look at your work.

597
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: We suck and when TJ Will plays, they're like that

598
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: changes the calculus for everything. Yeah, we are terrible people,

599
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: non strategic, stupid, stubborn, blinded by our own biases. We

600
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: deserve to be one and two right now because we

601
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: could be three and m.

602
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, what got me Chad was just

603
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: again I overacted too much to It was the fact

604
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: that it was unknown who the quarterback was going to be,

605
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: and I had questions about their offensive line, and my

606
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: thinking was, well, I don't know how they're going to

607
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 4: keep up with Atlanta where we nailed on Tuesday. We said,

608
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: this is Kirk cousins first start going against the top

609
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: five defense, Like this was a nightmare. Snaiy to put

610
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: this guy in and he failed. Like that's what the

611
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: worst part was. We capted it perfectly. It was like,

612
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: did it.

613
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Matter that the offensive line's bad on Pittsburgh and that

614
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: it was justin field?

615
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: No, I mean they can kick five field goals or

616
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: six field goals and all work out for him, just

617
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: because that defense is so incredibly talented. So that was

618
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: as Mike Tomlin as it can get, right.

619
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: I probably do have a talent for understanding people, But

620
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: is it a talent is not just listening when they talking?

621
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: For real coaches like the think we listen, coaches don't listen.

622
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: They wait for dude's mouse to stop moving.

623
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: All hard all grit offense was terrible. I mean it

624
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: really was at times just horrible. But you know, with

625
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: Fields they can run that kind of spread option, right,

626
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: they can run in and spread you out, and you

627
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: know it does not score touchdowns, but at least move

628
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: the ball where Atlanta could not move the ball, and

629
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: when they would JJ would pop up and make a

630
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: huge playing kind of flipped the game.

631
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, brutal, brutal leave them that went.

632
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: Off, especially because that's like a game we nailed talking

633
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: about and just a game we always taken that spot.

634
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: But I think it's just tough where it's like you

635
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 4: hear so much noise, I'm here so much from the

636
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: peanut gallery that doesn't make you a question you're thinking

637
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: of It was like, you know, they're right, their offensive

638
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: line is bad and justin fields does.

639
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: Burn us in these kind of spots.

640
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: And that number did go from two and a half

641
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: to closing at four and a half by kickoff, So Yeah,

642
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: some professionals winning heavy on Atlanta and they clearly got

643
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 4: burned by it. But yeah, lesson learn like we we

644
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: like Pittsburgh in those kind of spots. That was one

645
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: of their easier games we'll have all season matchup wise,

646
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 4: and we definitely missed on it.

647
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't we have listened to the Peanut Gallery

648
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: and the Panthers and the Giants because I would have

649
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: rather have listened to them on Matt and.

650
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: Definitely the Giants Vikings one that was the toughest. Yeah,

651
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: the Peanut Gallery was.

652
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Heavy on the Vikings and I was just like, Nah,

653
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: you don't know, you don't.

654
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Know, somebody knows. Oh, the irony. Everyone loves the Ravens.

655
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: Everyone loves the Bengals. Everyone's enamored with the Browns defense

656
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: that just gave up a million points to Dak Prescott,

657
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback ever. Now the only team to

658
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: win in the AFC North this week. Pittsburgh Steelers, congrats guys,

659
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: more one Mike Tomlin score one for going over their

660
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: wind total. Let's see if they can keep the streak alive.

661
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: I do want to there's a couple things we gotta say.

662
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: The Bears.

663
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: You nailed it like flowers for you.

664
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Speaker 1: I couldn't get myself there, and for the first half

665
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: it looked like I was one hundred percent right. But

666
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: I very specifically did not text you it's not going

667
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: to say anything because it's a long game.

668
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

669
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: I literally had no joke, forty five text messages on

670
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: my Bears text chain from the first half, which I

671
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: didn't answer because like, I'm taking notes on the games,

672
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: and I'm freaking out of at our bets and I'm

673
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: trying to keep my cool with all these people in

674
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: my house, Like I just can't engage. Caleb Williams already

675
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: looked broken, like in the second half he was. It

676
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: looked like he was literally pushing the ball instead of

677
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: throwing it. He was leaving the pocket the second his

678
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: first read wasn't there.

679
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Keen Allen's dropping wide open touchdowns.

680
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: Dropping passes.

681
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: The good news is he had a Hall of Fame

682
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: kneel down, and really, I don't think any bare quarterback

683
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: has ever looked better kneeling down than Caleb Williams.

684
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: But this was not a win to be proud of.

685
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: I would say it is. I mean, a win's a win.

686
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: I don't care how you get it, but to me,

687
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: it was good man. You got to see him get

688
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: humbled and he realized, like the scrambling back ten yards

689
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: is all funn and que when it works out. When

690
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: it doesn't work out and you lose twenty yards and

691
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: take your team out of field goal position, and.

692
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Chicago's letting you know you're an idiot. He needs that.

693
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: Like this kid, he's had a little bit too good

694
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: in his life, right, and this is this is gonna

695
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: be a good year for Caleb Blims. This is the

696
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: reason though, that I, me and you were laughing about

697
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: their win total over nine and a half and just

698
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: saw the hyper getting you know, Nick Wright's picking them

699
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: to go to the super Bowl. It's just like you're

700
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: a rookie. There's a reason we were so enamored with CJ. Right,

701
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: Like CJ going twenty three touches on five picks. You

702
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: don't see that kind of composure from rookies. You see

703
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: what we saw today from all the rookies right struggling.

704
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: Like that's another thing I was pissed about. It is

705
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: I told you whatever that was two weeks ago. I'm like,

706
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: we should fade these rookies on the road here just

707
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: because it's it is so tough, right in your first

708
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: start on the road. I mean Williams showed that at home,

709
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: how tough it is, right when the fans turned on

710
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: him a little bit that first half. I can't imagine

711
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: what the locker room was like for the bearers, right,

712
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: I mean it's seventeen nothing or whatever. It was seventeen three.

713
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: But when I made the bet, my whole point was

714
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: I just thought ten See was bad and I thought

715
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: will Levis was bad. And it took a while to

716
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: get there, Chad, right, it took a little bit for

717
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: him to.

718
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: You know what. He was bad. He got bad.

719
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: He was bad.

720
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: It's just like when it's third and seven, you got

721
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: no hope with will Levis, Like there's a couple of

722
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: kbs like that, and you know, I never thought the

723
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: number would get there, right, just because there were in

724
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 4: such a hole. And it was like, well, if they

725
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: get up to twenty one seventeen, they can cover the

726
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: four and I can get my three and a half.

727
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: Check can get his four and a half. No, No,

728
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 4: will Levis didn't even better. He threw a pick six.

729
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: I think Stucky had the tweet. It was like amazing.

730
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: It was basically, how often does the team come back

731
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: from down seventeen to win a game with zero offensive touchdowns?

732
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's ever happened before. You either astonishing,

733
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: it's astonishing.

734
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: So, like you said, Chad, that's good teams win those

735
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: kind of games. And I know it's hard for you

736
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: as a Chicagoan because you've just been through the fucking ringer,

737
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: but I'd be positive, like this is exciting going forward

738
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: because they do have a lot to build on, a

739
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: work on, and that to me is like that was

740
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: one of the worst offensive performances we'll see this season.

741
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: I think from Caleb Williams, I think he'll get better.

742
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: That was just he said he doesn't get nervous. Dude,

743
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: you're human.

744
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: You clearly get nervous, because he was full of jitter's

745
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: not game and happy feet. So yeah, I don't know

746
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: if we'll bet them next week because it's it's under

747
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 4: a touchdown right now in Houston at home on Monday

748
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: night against the Bear. So I will be honest with

749
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: you chat right now. I did throw a little bit

750
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: on Houston right now while it's under seven, just because

751
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: I do think that number is gonna go up.

752
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: All right, well let's talk about him. So just a reminder,

753
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: we've got the Lions tonight. We're not gonna spend too

754
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: much time on the Lions because we've talked about him

755
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: so much.

756
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: But uh, don't minus five though, that feels like that's

757
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: totally gone value wise.

758
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were on the Lions at three and a half.

759
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: We're on the line.

760
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: I'm taking them four and a half too, But at

761
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: four and a half, it's just like, come on the survivor.

762
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: We had the Bengals. That's a bummer.

763
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: We also had the Seahawks, so we split in sort

764
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: of the pools that we're in.

765
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: Still alive, We'll keep talking about.

766
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: Its up to five and a half now. Lines at

767
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: bet three six.

768
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: Five, Jesus, jeez, jesus over unders fifty three, I mean,

769
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: throw if you missed everything, you haven't bet anything in

770
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: this game.

771
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: Throw it on the end here that that's a really

772
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: high number.

773
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: Nick Giffin likes the under on the first half of

774
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: corning to wa.

775
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: Do that thing. Yeah, goo roll with Nick and his

776
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: luck rankings.

777
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: I like that couple of Week two lines that I

778
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: just want to get to before we get out of here.

779
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: You just mentioned Houston five and a half, right, six

780
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: and a half. It's up to six and a half

781
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: over the Bears.

782
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: It could be a lesser book. Our sponsor's book is

783
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: six and a half.

784
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: I just saw Buffalo Miami. Buffalo opened is a one

785
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: point underdog at Miami. That line I just saw move

786
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: to one and a half. I don't know what you're

787
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: seeing on Beth three six five right now.

788
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Buffalo's defense might be absolutely dog shit.

789
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: So I get I get why the professionals are coming

790
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: to Miami and then they're at home in a short week.

791
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll wait for that one to talk wu'sday.

792
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: A couple of games that interested me. I know it's

793
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: terrible to say this. Cincinnati they're plus six. Obviously we

794
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: got to wait and see what happens. Well, we know

795
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. It's Cincinnati plus six. For a second,

796
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: I forgot there. We're playing the Chiefs and not the Niners.

797
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Cincinnati plus six, like.

798
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: Probably know, my Simon says, bet I already took the

799
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: six and a half. It's down to six. I'll take

800
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: the six as well.

801
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: It's like like that line could go up over the

802
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: course of the week with all the I don't think.

803
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're pros al out at chet

804
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: because this is already insane. It was three and a

805
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: half before games kicked off today. Are the Bengals three

806
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: points worse than they were twelve hours ago?

807
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: I don't.

808
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just we talk all the time.

809
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: It's over overaction. The week one like that, that game,

810
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 4: everything went wrong. They're about to score the go ahead touchdown,

811
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: the guy fumbles into the end zone, right, they get

812
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: a kick, the guy who muffs the punt, Like, it's

813
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: just I think the commentator said they only had two

814
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: fumbles all of last season.

815
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: They had two in that game.

816
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 3: Just half.

817
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's just a game from hell. So it's

818
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: like me and Chad, I know, it's gross pool. You

819
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: have to buy a loan in these scenarios. So we

820
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: we love Mahomes. We always talk about this on our show.

821
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: We love Mahomes at less than three point favorite.

822
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: So if he's.

823
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: Two and a half or if he's an underdog, we

824
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: buy in Mahomes. We always fade Mahomes when it's over four.

825
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: We just always do it because he always plays in

826
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: these close games. So Chad, You're so right calling this

827
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: game out first. This is one of my favorite games

828
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 4: that popped up for this early buying.

829
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: By the way, Evan just threw this one stat into

830
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: the chat that I need to read to people, and

831
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: it's germane. For a couple of reasons, one, bet three

832
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: sixty five has an incredible early payout offer. If any

833
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: team that you've bet on goes up by seventeen points,

834
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: your bet automatically cash is So if the other team

835
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: comes back to win, doesn't matter. You've cast your bet low.

836
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: And behold that happened with the Titans today. So they lost,

837
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: but you won your bet if you bet with bet

838
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: three six five. If you went because they got up

839
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: seventeen to nothing, dogs are four points to lead by

840
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: seventeen plus at any point in a game, we're sixty

841
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: six one and one against the spread. It's twenty nineteen.

842
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: They are now sixty six two and one against the spread.

843
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: The other game, two other games, Dallas is minus six.

844
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Love it right now.

845
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: I say, we grab it as soon as I saw

846
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: that number come out.

847
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: It's Dallas at home against a bad team like we

848
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: always we always played Dallas. Yeahs, and especially that bad

849
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: team is the Saint who just put up fifty points

850
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: or whatever.

851
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: It was like, if this game to me, this game

852
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: and you'll do your numbers this week. But I feel

853
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: like this game should be at least a touchdown.

854
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what it will be. I think I'll

855
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: either at seven or seven and a half.

856
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: So the fact that you can get six six and

857
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: a half right now, I just grab it before it

858
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: does go to seven.

859
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: Opinion.

860
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: All right, those were the games. Anything else I'm missing?

861
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I grabbed Colts minus three right now, just in

862
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: case it is Milik Willis right, that's what they're saying, Chad,

863
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: I know Ryan Tannehill has gotten some buzz yep. So

864
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 4: that's Ryan Tannehill coming off of beaching Bahamas to be

865
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: their quarterback and playing a game in six days.

866
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: So it's like either quarterback, whoever it is. I'm feeling

867
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: confident about this bet. Right.

868
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: So there's a reason Green Bay and we had to

869
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: give up a seventh round pick to get their starting

870
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 4: quarterback right now?

871
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, this.

872
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 4: I wanted to be on Green Bay because I thought

873
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: this line would be like six or something, and the

874
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: fact that it's just three right now, I would just

875
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: grab because I could see the public coming in this

876
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: number going up.

877
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,080
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