1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid verbal ll that for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: be happy, you want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: Edith Steak is that woo woof? And Don and Ty. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Solid Rebel Boys Girls. My name 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: is Ci Hillebrand. That fine gentleman over there on the 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: other side of the screen. For those of you watching 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: courtesy Overbowlers dot Com, the one, the only, still, the 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: incomparable Dan Rubinstein, Sir, Yes, happy Saint Patrick's day. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: How are you? I'm wonderful. Not a corn, beef and 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: cabbage guy specifically, but I am extremely excited for this 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: concept for this show. It is a long time coming 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: in that it is three and a half days coming 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: since we came up with this idea, which it basically 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: is basically a lawrence of Arabia in terms of the 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: planning and production struggles that went into this game because 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: this is not usual for us. I am excited, Tie, 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: and I imagine you are as well. 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 3: I am thrilled as always this episode driven by Geico. 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: The fine folks over there will be very thrilled at 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: this concept because we are pumped about it. It is 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: March the seventeenth, as many of you are listening to 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: this show even if you aren't listening on March the seventeenth. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: It is one of the rare evergreen shows that we 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 3: put out throughout the course of a calendar year. We 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: do college football. College football goes stale very quickly. This one, 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: I don't believe that will be the case, so we'll 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: get into that momentarily again. Verballers dot com is where 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: you can witness the video of this show, of the 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: interview that we've got as part of this show. Also, 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: you can get access to everything a little bit early. 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: You get access to Extra Nuggets, which is Dan's and 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: Adam Aman's cool concept exclusive podcast that you can only 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: find right now out at verballers dot com. Don't forget 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: to go on out as well the Solid Giveaway dot Com. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: We've got a new helmet that we are giving way 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: aj Brown. 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Ole miss Ooh Legend. 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Legend, current NFL Star, Solid Giveaway dot Com. You need 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: just go through a few free and easy steps to 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: get your name in the hat for that damn But 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: without further ado walk us through what today's show is 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: all about. 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: It's all about. We're calling it the college football Patron Saints, 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: not Patron Saints, Patrin Saints. We're celebrating recent modern era. 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: I don't know how we're defining the lot that last twelve, fifteen, 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: seventeen years Somewhere in there the two thousands, I guess 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: won't be the most accurate of representing that all of 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: the Pats Patrick's or players with Pat or Patrick in 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: their last name in some cases that have contributed to 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: and made college football more enjoyable. Because I don't know 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: it's March, we're staying on on calendar with Saint Patrick's Day, 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: and there are enough of them that we can go 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: back and discover nuggets, factoids, fun context, fun performances about 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: these Pats and Patricks across the sport. And I'm going 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: to ask you questions in the form of answers to 58 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: celebrate how we work with extra nuggets, which adds fun 59 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: nuggets and factoids to Jeopardy questions we have. I have 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: a bank of Pats and Patricks. I'm going to give 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: you the clue and play this and if you get 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: it right, this does that all make sense to you? 63 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Ty? 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: It makes it? Hopefully it does because we discussed this 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: concept already. 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Yes, no, it does, and we'll hold it under our 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: hat until we get to that stage of the game. Yeah, 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: with our interview, because we do have actual interview as 69 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: part of this episode. Very excited about. 70 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: So any any news you wanted to get into right 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: off the bat, anything that's interesting to you, happening in 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: the sport. 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: No, I mean, there's so much happening in the sport. 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: I think we did a good job covering it on 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: the last episode talking about where things stand. Before long 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: it'll be NFL Draft time. We'll do our best here 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: on the show to try and cover that. I know 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: it's one of the rare points of overlap between college 79 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: football fans NFL fans, kind of that union between former 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: college team and new pro team. We'll do our best 81 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: to try and cover that here on the show over 82 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: the next coming weeks. But that's not until the end 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: of April. We talked about spring questions on the last episode. 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: Would encourage folks to go back and listen to that 85 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: show as well as we get into the month of April. 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: As we said, there are three really big weekends of 87 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: spring games that we can talk about in a little 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: bit more detail. Hopefully folks don't get hurt. They will 89 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: get hurt, but they will beyond that, there will be transfers, 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: will be a lot that comes as a result of that. 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: But as for right now, I'm in on St. Patrick's Daytay, 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: where are you at on Saint Patrick's Day? Did you 93 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: when you were in your younger day out there in 94 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: the great city of New York gallivanting around as a 95 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: single man? Well, Saint Patrick's Day a thing for you? 96 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: Were you wearing green were you drinking green beer? What 97 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: was your level of patrinzation. 98 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: If you will? 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: On Marsh's seventeenth? 100 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: Not much now I would wear grain, but no, I 101 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: am not Irish. I am not of Irish descent, so 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: I did not feel especially compelled to have fun. And 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: it's always happening right around and it is this year too, 104 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: March Madness time. So I just like this time in general, 105 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: and I'm happy for the people that do do celebrate, 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: and they die the Chicago River Green the weekend before usually, 107 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: I think, unless Saint Patrick's Day falls on a Saturday, 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: so like it's a I live in a place now 109 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: that really does celebrate it. But no, not my thing necessarily, 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: but I love this time of year. 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: I was at the first round of the NCAA tournament 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: in Philly. I forget the year on Saint Patrick's Day. 113 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that was a lot of fun. Yeah, I've done that. 114 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: I've done I did that in See, Idaho way back when. 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: It's a ton of fun. The only other notable Patrick 116 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: or Pat related thing that comes to mind is a 117 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: particular trip down in New Orleans at Patio's drinking hurricanes 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: all day and then that Russia blood that gets to 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: your head when you stand up for the first time 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: in hours. Right, I'm not familiar with your level of 121 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: hurricane exposure. I mean the drink, not the storm down Inland. 122 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: I've had a monsoon which is very similar in New Orleans, 123 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: but not the hurricane. 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 125 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if that's any indication, and as we tie 126 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: it back into college football, Pats can definitely have an 127 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: effect on things, Dan, They really truly can. 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready, I'm ready, let's do it. Okay, 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: This journey many journeyman has played for countless NFL teams, 130 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: but it'll always be his college team and extraordinary beard 131 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: and shirt prints that he'll be known for. 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: Play the ding. The answer is Ryan Fitzpatrick. That's correct, 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick, HAVD. Did you know, Yeah, Harvard. Everybody 134 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: knows Ryan Fitzpatrick Harvard. It's sort of been a novelty 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: since he Finish came into the NFL. But Ryan Fitzpatrick 136 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: has really made his mark on the NFL. He's played 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: with nine teams. Now, I found some other interesting factoids, Okay, 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: Ryan Fitzpatrick that I was not aware of. So you 139 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: know his nickname, what's his nickname? 140 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: Fitzmagic, Fitzmagic. 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: As we've as we put this list together, and you know, 142 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: we both have the same bank of Pat's and Patrick's 143 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: and Pat related things. Here on the list, we have 144 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: another name, Minka Fitzpatrick, correct, right, former Alabama defensive back. 145 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: Did you know that Minka Fitzpatrick tried to get a 146 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: trademark on Fitzmagic. Whoops, he tried to get a trademark 147 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 3: on it. He claimed that he had been called fitzmagicading 148 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: back to high school. There's not a whole lot of 149 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: proof out there. Part of the trademarking process. We know 150 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: this because we've got one on the solid verbal part 151 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: of the process is proving that you've had the mark 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: and that you've used the mark out in the wild 153 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: for some period of time. He couldn't really demonstrate that. 154 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: And furthermore, when it became public that he was trying 155 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: to do this, there was backlash. Folks were not happy. 156 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: They're like, whoa wait a second, you're not Fitzmagic, this 157 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: other guy with the beards fitz Magic. How can you 158 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: do this? And they talked to Ryan Fitzpatrick about it, 159 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: and it was like he tried to play it cool, 160 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: but it was pretty clear that he was like a 161 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: little peeved about this, right, a little peeved about this. 162 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: So there was this whole thing Minka Fitzpatrick. I think 163 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: he's on the record saying, look, if he wants it, 164 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: he can have it. Like he clearly was not trying 165 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: to start with a kind of guff with Ryan Fitzpatrick. 166 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: But in the end he tried to go through with 167 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: the trademark. The US Patent Trademark Office decided, we're going 168 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: to deny the request because if we give it to you, 169 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: if you start putting it on sweatshirts and stuff like that, 170 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: there could perhaps be some sort of false connection that 171 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: people draw out there in the consumer space. So it 172 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: was denied. The application was subsequently abandoned. And I don't 173 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: believe that anybody actually has the mark on Fitzpat or 174 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: fits magic at this point, but yeah, a weird set 175 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: of circumstances that occurred back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen 176 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: that time for him inter Patrick tension as it were. 177 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: That is correct, that is actually correct. 178 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: What I have here is Ryan Fitzpatrick worked at Wendy's 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: for two weeks. He interned for the Celtics, specifically for 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: Red Hourback. He was his gopher, essentially with running Eron's 181 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: for him. He proposed to his wife overeating MC nuggets, 182 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: nuggets nuggets, he said between number three and four, he 183 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: proposed to his wife he has six kids seven actually 184 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: seven kids seven now, okay at six at one time. 185 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: That's how I On his Wikipedia page, I'm not kidding, 186 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,479 Speaker 2: it says seven kids and then quote as of twenty 187 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: twenty one and as if they may be expecting more 188 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: or as if the author of the Wikipedia article just 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: didn't want to like commit to a number. Sure at 190 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: the time when he only had six kids, he decided 191 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: to sign with Tampa if you remember, backed up Jameis Winston, 192 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: but started out as a starter just because of the 193 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: weather and the Disney proximity, with having a lot of 194 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: children to me, a lot of children, which is as 195 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: good a reason I guess as any. 196 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got what two kids as of recording. As 197 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: of recording, Yeah, taking six kids to Disney doesn't feel 198 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: thank you, I got that right. 199 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: This is good. 200 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, taking six kids to Disney doesn't necessarily seem like 201 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: the most enjoyable experience as a parent. 202 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. 203 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: Once you have six, the oldest two are generally pseudo 204 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: their deputize parents, so you have help there. Okay, Yeah, 205 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: that's I mean. I also, if we really want to 206 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: get into it, and we could tether this to PA 207 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: the first two letters of pat and say, is there 208 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: connection between Ryan Fitzpatrick and the state of Pennsylvania the 209 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: Keystone state tie? Is that correct? 210 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: It is Keystone State, that's correct. 211 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick has had really good performances against the Steelers, 212 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: so there's that. And he is the only player in 213 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: NFL history to pass for a touchdown against one opponent, 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: the Eagles, with seven different franchises in his career, So 215 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: PA opponents have been pretty decent to write. 216 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: When you play for nine teams get you get more 217 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: than a few bylines in. 218 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: The weird stats. Are you ready for the next question? 219 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: Let's do it. This is great. This All American linebacker 220 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: notched his four hundredth career tackle against Auburn in a 221 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: recent Citrus Bowl. 222 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: In a recent Citrus Bowl. 223 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: In a recent Citrus Bowl, this linebacker notched his four 224 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: hundredth career tackle All American linebacker. 225 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: Mind you, um, okay, I don't know how recent we're 226 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: talking here, the last three to four years? 227 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: Really? Yes? Correct? 228 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: I was, I guess not prepared for this answer. I 229 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: don't know who is Patty Fisher. Fisher, Patty Fisher nor 230 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: right in front of me, right in front of you. 231 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: Northwestern Auburn, recent game, recent bowl matchup, and just an 232 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: absolute legend, another uh notch on the long line of 233 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: linebacking success at Northwestern on that belt you look at 234 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: the you know, the recent Bergen brothers obviously a head 235 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: coach who is uh I think is in the College 236 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame as well. We we perhaps may 237 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: get to him. But Patti Fisher from Katie, Texas, one 238 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: of four brothers long line of of Fishers who played 239 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: at at Katie High school, won a national championship, took 240 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: down Ty somebody we're both very familiar with on that 241 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: state championship run as a high schooler. 242 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: Dearic King, Yeah, game, who. 243 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: You said, national championship. 244 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: They didn't win an excuse me, state champion, state champions 245 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: state k high school state championship. But that's impressive nonetheless. 246 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: And here's here's an additional nugget to bring us back 247 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: to the Keystone state tie in Pennsylvania. His dad, who 248 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: has tragically passed away, but was a full back for 249 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: Bloomsburg College in the Bloomsburg PA, which is I think 250 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: central Eastern PA. I want to say that that's generally Yeah, 251 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 2: I'd say that's about accurate. Patti Fisher has been a 252 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: practice squad guy in the NFL, but was just absolute 253 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: nails for some memorable and terrific Northwestern defense as a linebacker. 254 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: You missed a very important factoid, a very important place, 255 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 3: very important pat in college football. Yeah, Patty Fisher did 256 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: a reddit ama mm hm oh. He was asked where 257 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: he would go in Evanston if he was starving and 258 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: only had twenty dollars in his pocket. 259 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not terribly far from Evanston twenty dollars in 260 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: his pocket. You gotta think like a Northwestern football player 261 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: from Texas. I don't know, maybe like lou mal Natties 262 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: or something, Wu mal Naughties. Is that true? 263 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: Lou mal Natties? 264 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: He said. 265 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: The pizza go to is Lou's or Geo's. I'm not 266 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: familiar with Geo, Geno's Gene. 267 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he said. 268 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: If you're looking for good eats, check out Bluestone and 269 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: Prairie Moon. There are tons of diverse spots in Evanston. Yeah, 270 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: it does appear as if he is a fellow pizza aficionado, 271 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: because at several points throughout that AMA he mentions the 272 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: pizza in Evanston, and so what is one to assume? 273 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: He also, I think, says that his favorite beer is 274 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: dose Eki's, which that's a separate conversation we could talk about. 275 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: But he doesn't number. 276 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: One beer, but when he does, Yeah, sure, My current 277 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: number one pizza in Evanston is Desalve d Salvos Salvas 278 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: de Salvo's thinner New York style. That's where my stomach goes. 279 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: Are you ready for another one time? 280 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm ready? This is wonderful. 281 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, this Super Bowl champion quarterback has an even 282 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: more talented brother who shines on TikTok quarterbacks. 283 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: Now wife, Yeah, Patrick Mahomes. 284 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is correct, Absolutely is correct, Patrick Mahomes. And 285 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have nuggies to go along with Patrick Mahomes. 286 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: And I mean he's obviously led a fascinating life. First 287 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: of all, the connection to Pa is clear given that 288 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: success he's had with Andy Reid and his background with 289 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: the Eagles, but also his father. Pat mahomes final season 290 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: pitching in the bigs was for the Pittsburgh Pirates. It 291 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: was an unremarkable season, though his whip was respectable at 292 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: one point three eight eight. Look, I mean just respectable 293 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: in terms of his own career. He didn't allow a 294 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: ton of base runners anyway, Patrick Mahomes. The fascinating thing 295 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: to me is he was not heavily and he had 296 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: a ton of success at a major high school in 297 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: Texas through for a ton of yardage, was athletic, had 298 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: a cannon for an arm, was a great athlete. But 299 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: it was in terms of why he wasn't necessarily recruited heavily. 300 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: You know, Rice offered him supposedly Oklahoma State got involved late, 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: but really it was just sort of Texas Tech all 302 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: the way. I think a lot of colleges, it seemed, 303 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: were scared off because of his baseball success and basketball success, 304 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: but specifically baseball because he was drafted out of high school, 305 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: entered his name into the MLB draft, and so the 306 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: line of thinking was given his dad's own career in baseball, 307 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes was going to follow that career path, 308 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: which certainly can be a lot easier financially and physically 309 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: than football, but chose to go to Texas Tech where 310 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: I mean, now you know, the rest is sort of history, 311 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: but the line of there was an oral history on 312 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: his time. The Patrick Mahomes time at Texas Tech. Obviously 313 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: we know about the huge game against Oklahoma, but the 314 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: nugget Eye really enjoyed was Texas Tech pretty big campus, 315 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: and he and his buddies wanted to be more efficient 316 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: about how they got around campus, and they just decided 317 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: to become rollerbladers from class to class. Patrick Mahomes on 318 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: the on the Lubbock campus, which I never considered as 319 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: somebody in college, but the Mahomes friend group decided to 320 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: take the Texas Tech Campus by Roller. 321 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: When you are a starting quarterback, Yeah, at a Power 322 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: five institution, you can operate with some air of impunity. 323 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: For sure. 324 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily mean things with respect to laws, but 325 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: certainly you could get away with a little bit more 326 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 3: without for sure thinking negatively of you. And so that 327 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: that's just efficiency right there. Patrick Mahomes, by the way, 328 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: not that it bears repeating, but just for context, eleven 329 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 3: and fifty two yards passing in his years at Texas 330 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: Tech ninety three touchdowns. He did once pitch for the 331 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: Texas Tech Red Raiders baseball team one game, one game 332 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: that was also part of the oral history. His line 333 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: was zero innings, pitched, two walks, one hit batsman. He 334 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: gave up a three run double, finished with three earned runs, 335 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: subsequently left the game without recording an out and an 336 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: infinity er. 337 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Not great. 338 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: The sideways eight is never a great era to have. 339 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: He's also an investor in a What a Burger franchise 340 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: in the Kansas City and Wichita metro areas. 341 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: What a Burger's decent? 342 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: I think I had What a Burger with you. 343 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: Oh okay, he's decent. Sorry, Yeah. I also developed his 344 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: no look throw there but it was not his idea. 345 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: It was Nick Schiminick Simonik, who was a transfer from 346 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: Iowa at quarterback and pulled it off in a game 347 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: at Texas Tech and obviously has done it in the NFL. 348 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: Are you ready for them? 349 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: Question? All? 350 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: Right, here we go. This one might be tough for 351 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: you as well. You ready? 352 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 353 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: Okay? This, I'm deciding which one I want to do. 354 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: This super Bowl champion quarterback. Excuse me, I already just 355 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: did that one. This All American and Super Bowl champion 356 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: defensive back has spoken to Dan Rubinstein on the phone. 357 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: Patrick Chung. 358 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: Patrick Chung is correct. I did an oral history of 359 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven Orgon Ducks team and spoke 360 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: to him about his experience on that what could have 361 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: been Oregon squad. And the nugget and factoid about Patrick 362 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: Chung is when you're pretty much always going to get 363 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: about him, and that is that his mother had a 364 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: huge reggae hit called Gurly Gurley. She is from Jamaica, 365 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: his father is Jamaican and Chinese in background. And Patrick 366 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: Chung enrolled at Oregon when he was sixteen ten years old. 367 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: He was sixteen, very young. I don't know if he 368 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: skipped a grade at some point but was a red shirt, 369 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: took a red shirt year when he was sixteen, and 370 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: from that point on never looked back and was probably 371 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 2: the Organ's defensive MVP in the mid two thousands. I 372 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: just remember loved, loving watching him. He was and I'm 373 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: sure you have a notre dame player like this. We're 374 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: just like, I don't have to worry about this guy 375 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: on the back end of this defense. This safety has 376 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: things in control, it has things under control that he's 377 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: a sure tackler. He's not going to get beat deep. 378 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: His instincts are terrific. That's who Patrick Chung was as 379 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: an Oregon duck. And I did listen, by the way 380 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: to his mother's hit song Gurly Gurley. She's no longer 381 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: a reggae singer. They settled in southern California, but it 382 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: was kind of a precursor to Ludacris's Area Codes. 383 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: Really, Girly Gurly. 384 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: Is about that. The subject of the song, Gurly Gurly 385 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: is about somebody who has let's call it love interests 386 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: in all sorts of different locations. And at the end 387 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: of the on Girly Girly, I listened to it front 388 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: to back. She just starts listing countries. She's just like Antigua, London, Japan, 389 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: and so it is a seventies precursor to area codes 390 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: from Ludacrous. 391 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. Well, my factoids aren't nearly as 392 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: exciting as yours. I have that he played fifty one 393 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: straight games for Oregon, maybe the most by a defensive player. 394 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's changed. Probably fifty one straight 395 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: games is impressive by any standard. Declared for the draft 396 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight, only to undeclare three days 397 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: later and come back yep, and then was drafted in 398 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. As you mentioned, he is Jamaican born. 399 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: I think you mentioned that. But he's Jamaican born and 400 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: actually a huge rugby fan. Nice, which is why he 401 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 3: is part owner of the New England Free Jacks of 402 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: something called Major League Rugby, which I had no idea 403 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: even existed, but apparently it's the thing. There are thirteen teams, 404 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: a bunch of major cities. League launched a couple of 405 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: years ago. It was able to score media rite steal 406 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: with CBS Sports Network. So perhaps if you're interested in rugby, 407 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: I know we've got international listeners, even people here in 408 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: the US whore like rugby. You can watch his team 409 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: New England Free Jacks. 410 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: I just I remember the old Oregon secondary. This is 411 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: the final nugget I have was it was Gosh, Walter 412 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Thurman like going back to the late two thousands, they called 413 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: themselves the D Boys, Dboyz, D Boys. Are you ready 414 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: for the next question? I am ready to get this. 415 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: I'm ready. 416 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: Correct, here we go. This all American and first round 417 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: pick and NFL All Decade team member who once recognized 418 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein in a restaurant. 419 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: Once recognized Dan Rubinstein in a restaurant. Correct, Yo, All 420 00:22:54,280 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: American first round pick, NFL All Decade Team. So we're 421 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 3: talking about somebody with a lengthy NFL career, likely if 422 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: he was able to make that team, but he recognized 423 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: you recognize me in a restaurant, Patrick Willis. 424 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's incorrect. It is Patrick Peterson. So I 425 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: had interviewed him twice, including once at an elementary school 426 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: in Arizona and then once on a short lived game 427 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: show I did called answer the question which we asked 428 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: people attending Super Bowls Radio Row a bunch of questions, 429 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: and so he was playing in the Lake Tahoe. He's 430 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: a golfer and avid golfer. There's a nugget, the nugget 431 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: number one, and he's playing in the Lake Tahoe celebrity 432 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: golf tournament. Guys like you know, Steph Curry and justin Timberlake, 433 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: guys like that. And I had seen him and said 434 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: hi to him on the golf course because we were 435 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: covering that at eSPI Nation, and then like an hour 436 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: later we just happened to be eating at the same 437 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: restaurant and he saw me at a table and was 438 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: like like a very dad, like longtime no sea buddy. 439 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, Patrick Peterson, buddy, it's true. So 440 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: that's that's the only nugget personally that I could sort 441 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: of match with him. But he's super nice dude. He's 442 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: now on the vikings. I want to say, he's still playing. 443 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: He's been still playing a good long time. He So 444 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: here's what's interesting about him, because first off, he was 445 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 2: on an incredible defense. Oh my god, Morris Claiborn, Honey Badger, Yeah, Eric. 446 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: Reid, Kelvin Sheff, like that was an incredible defense. 447 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: Rock Yeah. 448 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: As part of LSU was a fifth overall pick by 449 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: the Cardinals and has been playing a good long time. 450 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: He hurt his hamstring last season twenty twenty one. Mm 451 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: HM went on ir It was the first time in 452 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: his tenure career that he missed a game due to injury. Wow, really, 453 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: which is insane, that insane for a football player, because 454 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: what's one of the things that you always hear, especially 455 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 3: this time of year when everybody's talking about the NFL draft, durability, 456 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: durability concerns. Guys get hurt. It's so easy, get her. 457 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: It's football. The best ability is availability. 458 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, first time ever that he missed time 459 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: due to injury last season. 460 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: So I have another interesting nugget about him. His dad 461 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: benched him his junior year in high school for grades 462 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: and missing school and was like, Nope, you're not playing football. No, 463 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: I said, you gotta get your grades right, you gotta 464 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: get you gotta get your attendance right, your truancy's right, 465 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: your tardiness right. Benched him and then obviously shined and 466 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: went to LSU's little brother also played for LSU, and 467 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: was you know, terrific as a Bengal. A by you Bengal. 468 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, Patrick Peterson. His PA connection is Howie Roseman 469 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: was desperate for him, had a trade in place to 470 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: trade up to draft him, but that was during the lockout, 471 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: and then couldn't get it done after the fact when 472 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 2: the draft happened during the lockout, and was drafted by 473 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: the Cardinals and could not end up as an Eagle. 474 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: By the way, Patrick Chung was an Eagle for a 475 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: season in twenty thirteen for Chip Kelly, So that was 476 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: his PA connection. So yeah, Patrick Peterson just a recent 477 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: all time college corner and NFL corner, So there you go. 478 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: He's had an incredible career. Also, one last factoid, took 479 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: advantage of the NFL's number change rule this pass and 480 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: switched his number from twenty to number seven, just like 481 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: got hurt. So I don't you know, maybe there is 482 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 3: like a connection there somewhere out in the football ether. 483 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: But was number seven for the Vikings all right? 484 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: Not so lucky number seven. No, This specialist and now 485 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: media titan might be the most beloved special teamer in 486 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: West Virginia history. 487 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 3: Play the sound for mister Pat McAfee, of course, of course, 488 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: played from played in a really important pat game in 489 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: college football history, which we'll talk a little bit more 490 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: about momentarily. Yes, but Pat McAfee, I believe, still the 491 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: all time leading scorer in West Virginia Mountaineers football history 492 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: with three hundred and eighty four points. He was a kicker, 493 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: He was a specialist. This is a guy who had 494 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: a career long punt in the NFL of seventy four yards. 495 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 3: Not bad, not better than I can do, Better than 496 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 3: I can do for sure. He was also briefly in 497 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: the Guinness Book of World Records for he kicked a 498 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: forty yard field goal blindfolded. 499 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: Longest blindfolded field goal. Is that what that is? 500 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: It was broken two years later by a fan, a fan, 501 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: a big Pat McAfee aficionado of some sort, who kicked 502 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: a forty five yarder blindfolded. Not bad, So had that 503 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: moment in the sun. Otherwise, you know, signed a four 504 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: year deal thirty million dollars a year with FANDUL doing 505 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 3: pretty well. Yep, you know, as you said, Media Titan, 506 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: good dude. From everyone that I've known who is. 507 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's come across him. 508 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, come across from everybody seems to like Pat McAfee. 509 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: So definitely a notable Pat That. 510 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: Includes Extra Nuggets co host Adam Amin, who shared a 511 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: booth with Pat Max who was second PN for a 512 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: little while. Adam has nothing but terrific things to say 513 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: about McAfee and his operation over there in Indianapolis. What 514 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: I have here for Pat McAfee, obviously, given the connection 515 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: to Pa and losing to Pitt, Pat McAfee owes the 516 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: start of his kicking career to winning enough money to 517 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: go to a kicking camp via an illegal poker game 518 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: in the basement of an Italian restaurant as a high 519 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: school senior. He was all set to go to I 520 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: think it was a Maxicos Toledo or Kent State, and 521 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: impressed Tony Gibson, who was I think handling partially handling 522 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: special teams over at West Virginia at the time, at 523 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: a kicking camp in if I remember correctly, Miami. So 524 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: he went down there from from high school and impressed 525 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: everybody with his kicking ability and immediately came back home 526 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 2: and impressed the West Virginia coaching staff enough that he 527 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: was he was brought in to be a mountaineer. There's 528 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: all sorts of Bruce Felban whate a really good sort 529 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: of oral history and stories about like, you know, there's 530 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: a story about him out drinking herb hand at a 531 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: local West Virginia establishment friend of the show herb hand 532 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: just in terms of speed chugging. Just there's there's a 533 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: lot out there on the lore of Pat McAfee. But yeah, 534 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: he's certainly I have to assume the most beloved West 535 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: Virginia Special Team of all time for the culture time. 536 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: Come on. 537 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he's from the he's from Western Pa. Yeah, 538 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: so he's sort of a local guy. We can probably 539 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: have him on at some point. Yeah, probably can we 540 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: can do that. But yeah, certainly a notable Pat. I 541 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 3: believe still the all time leading score. I have three 542 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty four points written down here, which is damn. 543 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's quite a career for what the other 544 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: The other nugget about him that I always enjoy is 545 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: he got married in shorts. Yeah, not informal wear, but 546 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: he has described his his his his backside tie as 547 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: being ample enough that he needed to take proper steps. 548 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: And he's he runs warm, and so he kind of 549 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: got married in a short TuS like it was all 550 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: business up top with you know, nice black It was 551 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: shorter shorts on the bottom. Just he is sort of 552 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: a Redwood down there. 553 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: Ty. 554 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: See, that's what he. 555 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: Want with didn't want the swap situation. Yeah, no, respect, respect, 556 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: he knows himself. 557 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: All right, Are you ready for the next PAT? 558 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: I should we should stay with a connected pat here 559 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: if we're going to do it? 560 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh, you want to stay with a connected Pat? Okay, Yeah, 561 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: let's do it? Okay. Uh. This Pat is the engineer 562 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: of the most significant and consequential PAT matchup game and 563 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: also is revered by one time Thy Hildenbrandt. I almost 564 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: held you, Tom Hildenbrandt, Tom hildenbrand Thank you very much, 565 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: Ty Hildenbrandt. 566 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Uh. 567 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: The answer, The answer is our next guest, is it not? 568 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: It is all right? 569 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: Joining us now on this very special episode. Please to 570 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: welcome Pat Bostik to the Solid Verbal Senior Associate Athletic 571 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: Director of Development and Major Gifts at PITT, notably also 572 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: the Pit Football radio color analyst. Mister Bostik, how are you. 573 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, great to be with you, guys. Thanks 574 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: for having me. 575 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: Ty. You left out you left out the headline here, 576 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: you left out another part of his bio and why 577 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: we're having him on the show. In the all time 578 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: most important, most consequential matchup between Pat quarterbacks, we have 579 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: the winner of the duel. 580 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: Here is the same all right backyard Brawl two thousand 581 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 3: and seven, December. First, you're in Morgantown. You're a twenty 582 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: eight point dog against the number two team in the land, 583 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: West Virginia led by Pat White. Steve Slayton's on that. 584 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: That was a loaded West Virginia team. They're ten to one. 585 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: You are in this awkward position. I guess where you 586 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: really got nothing to lose? What is your thought process? 587 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: What does the build up to that game? What does 588 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: it look like? What is coach Wantstad telling you? 589 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: Guys? 590 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: Like, where are you at as a player going into 591 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: that one? 592 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 4: You know, it was nothing to lose would probably be 593 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: an understatement. 594 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: You know. We we were reeling a little bit. 595 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 4: We lost to South Florida the week before, got beat 596 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 4: by them pretty good. That was kind of the you 597 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: know the beginning of their little run. And you know, 598 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: we had a good young tailback named Shady McCoy, a 599 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 4: pretty solid defense. You know, our middle linebacker Scott McKillop 600 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: went on to be an All American and that. 601 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: That game really. 602 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: Was was his not coming out part of a validation 603 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: of that. He was terrific against them. But I think 604 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 4: for our seniors, they knew they weren't playing a bowl game, 605 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 4: and that was guys like Mike McGlenn, you know, Jeff Ota, 606 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: who was a first round pick. This was their bowl 607 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: game and it was a chance to play spoiler and 608 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: all week that was the attitude. We had a lot 609 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: of alumni come in talk to our team about keep 610 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: your hemet on on the sideline, all the things they 611 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: told you to do to avoid getting you know, Nichols 612 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 4: and dimes thrown at your head. 613 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: So you kind of felt. 614 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: I was a freshman, so I you know, coming from 615 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 4: South Central PA, pitt West Virginia wasn't a big part 616 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 4: of you know, my upbringing. But I found out really 617 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: quick how serious it was. And I can remember, you know, 618 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: walking out to practice and coach once that would play 619 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: country roads every day as we were doing stretch, and 620 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 4: that got really annoying. But for me, you know, I 621 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: knew that I woul probably have more of a role 622 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 4: in losing the game than winning it. So my job 623 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: was to go out there and not lose the game 624 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: because you know, you knew how talented they were. I mean, 625 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: that team, that West Virginia team was national championship caliber. 626 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: We just happened to go in there and play the 627 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: game of our lives, you know, really on defense, and 628 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: Shady was great, and you know, really didn't believe that 629 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: we had a shot until that second half when things 630 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 4: just started going our way. And even despite a couple 631 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: phantom holding calls, we were we came. 632 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Out on top. 633 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: And you know, that game changed certainly my life. But 634 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: I think the ripple effect of what it did to 635 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: college football is what makes it, you know, not only 636 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 4: the most probably unanticipated victory, but the most consequential one, 637 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: you know, in that series history. 638 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: So, I mean you're bearing a lead here as well. 639 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: Because you're a freshman. You probably were not you know, 640 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: beginning of the season, you're not thinking that you're going 641 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: to be starting games. You're not going to be starting 642 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: games at the end of the year. How did you 643 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: end up getting in thrust into that position? 644 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I came in. I was recruited, you know, 645 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 4: pretty heavily, and Pitt decided on Pitt just loved fell 646 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: in love with the city, and it wasn't too far 647 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 4: from home, but far enough way that you the mom 648 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: and that I had to call to come to see me. 649 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, Billy Stole was our quarterback. He 650 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: got hurt in the opener against Eastern Michigan and uh 651 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: tore up his thumb, and I kind of, you know, 652 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: went back and forth a little bit with Kevin Smith, 653 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: who's actually playing Major League Baseball right now. He's been 654 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 4: a catcher for the White Sox with Braves. But I 655 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 4: started eight games that year. My first start was at UVA, 656 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 4: so that was hard. It was really hard freshman year 657 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: for me. And honestly, I don't tell a lot of 658 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 4: people this, but you know, had we not won that 659 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: game in West Virginia, I didn't know if I wanted 660 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: to come back to pitt. 661 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: You know. 662 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 4: It was just such a whirlwind of emotions. I could 663 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 4: not wait for that season to be over. But his 664 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 4: fate would have it. But you know, there was no 665 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 4: way I wasn't coming back after of course, after you know, 666 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: being the cornerback for that game. And I think it's 667 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 4: a big reason why I'm still here today and working 668 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: at the school and doing what I do. 669 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: One of the insights you actually have because of that season. 670 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: And this is across the entire sport is school recruits, 671 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: haralded freshmen, haralded freshman is expected to come in and 672 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: immediately have command over a group of twenty year olds, 673 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: twenty two year olds. What is that like when that 674 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: wasn't the plan. You weren't expected at the beginning to 675 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: take over Bill Stull was there. But in your mind, 676 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 2: in your head and your experience, why is that not 677 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: the case? Basically every time as a freshman to come 678 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: in and have that kind of command. 679 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 4: It's you know, at positions where you know inherent athleticism 680 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 4: is more of an advantage, you know, receiver skill, positions, 681 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 4: running back even you know it's it's it's easy to 682 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: come in and distinguish yourself. I think, you know, the 683 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 4: quarterback position, offensive line, where there's a mental adjustment as 684 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: well as a you know, the physical maturity as well 685 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: as your your emotional maturity is critical. It's harder to 686 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 4: make that transition and the pressure is real. And I 687 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 4: felt that my first media day. And then you walk 688 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: into the locker room and you know, again the guys 689 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: I play with my best friends in the world in 690 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: high school, you know the guys that I played with 691 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 4: in high school and then I went to college and 692 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 4: looked at those They look different, they play different. The 693 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: speed of the game is crazy. It's just it's an 694 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 4: adjustment from It's the adjustment you make as a college student, 695 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 4: right going away from home, doing your own laundry, all 696 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 4: those things add it to doing what you've always done, 697 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 4: but having to raise your level immediately, and it's that 698 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: doesn't always happen fast. Sometimes it happens slower for certain guys. 699 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 4: There are some that are just you know, the Bryce 700 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: Young and others Caleb Williams, the guys that are just 701 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 4: so good they're ready for it. 702 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't. 703 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 4: I wasn't, and I was forced to be right, and 704 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 4: it caused me to grow up really fast and probably 705 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: peak sooner than I wanted to. You know, so I 706 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 4: think coaches, you know, the handlers of these these young 707 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 4: men and women these days, you need to be mindful 708 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 4: of how much pressure you're putting on a on a 709 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: young person to go in this situation, because you know 710 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 4: you want it to be fun, and you know now 711 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 4: more than ever, this is a business. But you're still 712 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 4: playing a game and you want to be able to 713 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: enjoy it because that joy is gonna is going to 714 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 4: carry you and push you through the. 715 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 2: Work and and sort of no matter what your career 716 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: ended up being at Pitt you mentioned the word joy. 717 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 2: I assume the win over West Virginia, it's gonna last 718 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: forever in your mind, It's gonna last forever in the 719 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 2: minds of Pit fans. What are the the uh, the 720 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: lasting impressions that you get from Pit fans who come 721 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: up to you from West Virginia, fans who come up 722 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 2: to you from West Virginia players who are, like, I 723 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 2: swear to God, Pat, Like, what what has been the 724 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: last you know, decade and a half been like for you? 725 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: Just with regard to reactions from that game. 726 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I could walk through a grocery store 727 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: in here thirteen to nine. You know, it's it's like, 728 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 4: it's it's awesome. 729 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it's you. 730 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 4: Know, and we were we were five and seventeen that didn't. 731 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: Make a Bowl game that year. 732 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 4: Look, that game sticks out. I got two pictures of 733 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: it in my office. Here's one of them. The Game 734 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 4: of the Century of course right there, you know, And 735 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: I think part of it, right was we kept our 736 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 4: rival from reaching the pinnacle of college football. You know 737 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 4: that environments so hard to win in. 738 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 739 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: You know, I saw Pat McAfee used to come up 740 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: in the years I was from from Plumb and he 741 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 4: would come and kick in. 742 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 743 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 4: He probably had more of an impact on that game 744 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 4: than anybody on our roster, to be honest, sure with 745 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 4: with the field goals he missed, But talking to Pat, 746 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: it's like that game, that game changed that program. Rodriguez 747 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: goes to Michigan. You know, prior Torell Pryor was a 748 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: big recruit, where was he going to go? People were 749 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 4: saying it was West Virginia to play football and basketball. 750 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 4: So the ripple effect, and that's that's something that yeah, 751 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 4: I can't say I feel bad for. 752 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: Because they certainly weren't welcoming to me when we came 753 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: in there with us. 754 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 4: But when you look at how good that team was, 755 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 4: a Pat White and Slaton and Noel Devine and just 756 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: on and down the list, it's like, objectively, you're like, yeah, 757 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 4: that team deserved to play for a national championship, but 758 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: a four and seven pit team said no. 759 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: And that's I'm proud of that. Yeah. 760 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 3: So, I mean you mentioned earlier how the game changed 761 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: your life. You're still at Pitt, You're still you know, 762 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 3: very prominent part of the Pit athletic program. But take 763 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 3: us back to December. Second, right, so you beat West Virginia. 764 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 3: You are this freshman. The stat line. Look, we don't 765 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 3: got to talk about the stat line. You won the game, 766 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: and you scored the only touchdown in the game, which 767 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 3: was meaningful. But how how does I guess your life 768 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 3: as a student immediately change just as you're walking around 769 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 3: campus the second you get back to Pitt. 770 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we got back that night and I 771 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 4: remember vividly. 772 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: I'll never forgot it. 773 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: I was sitting in the back with Mike McGlenn, who 774 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 4: was still a good friend, played in the league for 775 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 4: seven or eight years, and the whole senior up into 776 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: line group was saying country roads as we were going 777 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 4: through the court tunnels coming into the city like that 778 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 4: was there. And we got into campus and Oakland and 779 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 4: you know the tradition in Morgantown is to burn couches. Well, 780 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 4: people in Oakland were burning couches. There were cars flipped over, 781 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 4: there was it was a madhouse and I was actually 782 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 4: pretty ill. 783 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: I was sick. I mean, I had a pretty. 784 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 4: Bad air infection and sinus infection that night, so I 785 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 4: was I was kind of hopped up on some stuff, 786 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 4: and I remember I got back and you know, I 787 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 4: remember getting into campus off the bus and just like 788 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 4: I was, like, all I want to do, honestly, is 789 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 4: go go to my room, give me a six pack. 790 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: I want to have a few and go to sleep, Like. 791 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 4: I really don't want to. You know, the last thing 792 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 4: I need is music blaring in my ear. I just 793 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 4: had sixty or seventy thousand fans yelling for a while. 794 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 4: But you know, you wake up the next morning and 795 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 4: it's it sets in that like you're a part of history. 796 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: And no matter what I was going to do the 797 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 4: rest of my career, I wanted to do more, don't 798 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 4: get me wrong. And I played another game in eight 799 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 4: at Notre Dame that I'm really proud of, you know, 800 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 4: for overtime win. Statelin was a little better, but there 801 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 4: were still three picks on it, so it wasn't great. 802 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: But you know, you're you can't ever take that away 803 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: from from us. And again I'm shocked that it's lasted 804 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 4: this long, even winning an ACC championship last year, We've 805 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 4: had a couple of upsets since then, Clemson West, you know, 806 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 4: Miami in twenty seventeen. Nothing we'll ever top that. And 807 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 4: on campus, you know, it's just a it's different now 808 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 4: because they haven't played the game in so long and 809 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 4: this will be the first year in September that that 810 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: Pitt West Virginia played since twenty eleven, so they don't 811 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 4: know that rivalry. But the Pitt fans man that that 812 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 4: that whole team is, it's revered. 813 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 3: Well, one of the reasons that we're that we're doing 814 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: this whole conversation is because with it being Saint Patrick's Day, 815 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: we've looked at this game and not just you as 816 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 3: a prominent pat, but Pat White. You mentioned Pat McAfee. 817 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 3: What what was your impression of your counterpart going into 818 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 3: that football game, because we you know, we're talking a 819 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: little bit about Pat White here, but Pat White. Pat 820 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 3: White for a while was the all time leading rusher 821 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 3: as a quarterback in ncua A history. He obviously went 822 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 3: on to the NFL, where he played a lot of 823 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 3: wildcat and you know, was used in various capacities. But 824 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: just looking across the field, I remember, as a fan 825 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 3: watching that game just how freaking dominant. He was just 826 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 3: as a dynamic athlete. 827 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 4: I mean it was a freak. You know, he could 828 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 4: if we don't knock him out of that game. Yeah, 829 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 4: and I forget who it was, you know, Greg Romius 830 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 4: or Tommy Duhart. Tommy recovered a fumble, but we knocked 831 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 4: him out of the game, and that changed everything because 832 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 4: I think it was Jared Brown was his backup, and 833 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 4: he could he could run. He scored a touchdown thinking 834 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: that or didn't score touching on it. But he had 835 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 4: a couple of nice runs in that game. But he 836 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 4: wasn't Pat White, and the combination of Slayton didn't do 837 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 4: anything in that game. And you realize, you know, back then, 838 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: you know Rodriguez's spread was so ahead of the curve. 839 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 4: The zone read was becoming. You know, r PO wasn't 840 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 4: a thing, but the zone red was the r p 841 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 4: O of of then. And what that dynamic of Pat 842 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 4: being able to pull the ball down at any point 843 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 4: and either take it out the back door or design 844 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 4: runs or pull it and then throw it. 845 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: It was. 846 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 4: It was the triple option backed up in the shotgun. 847 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 4: And when he got knocked out of that game, we 848 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 4: had a much better shot to win, obviously, but I 849 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 4: had tremendous respect for him, you know, watching the highlights 850 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 4: of the game, just looking at his face not being 851 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 4: able to be in there, and then he went it 852 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 4: back in at the end and then it's like, okay, 853 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 4: here here goes fate, now here goes here comes the hero. 854 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: And he wasn't able to get it done with a 855 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: couple of last second heaves. 856 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 4: But that doesn't take anything away from the career he has, 857 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 4: and he ran all over us in two thousand and six. 858 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 4: I remember watching that film as a freshman, just him running. 859 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: On the sideline. 860 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 4: I think he did like a little roar on camera 861 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 4: or something on the ESPN that I remember seeing. So 862 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: he was definitely a better quarterback in that matchup and 863 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 4: always will be sure, But I guess I guess this 864 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 4: pack got the last laugh. 865 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: Final final question on the topic continued of Pats. The 866 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 2: current and now longtime head coach of the Pitt Panthers 867 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 2: is another Pat in, Pat Nardoozy. So give us something 868 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: that nobody or very few people know about Pat and 869 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 2: Ardoozy because publicly he just seems sort of straightforward. By 870 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 2: the book, there have been some great pit teams recently 871 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 2: players individually on both sides of the ball. But as 872 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 2: a human, as a person, what is something that not 873 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 2: too many people know about patent Ardoozy. 874 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want to try to 875 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 4: be cliche here, but I think when I think of 876 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 4: Paton Ardoozy, I think of a builder. You know, he 877 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 4: his relationships with his players is outstanding. But you know 878 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 4: in my work and fundraising, uh, you know, we almost 879 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 4: have to hold him back from I haven't called so 880 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,959 Speaker 4: and so in a while, you know, what's going on. 881 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: Like or hey, like who do you need to call? 882 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm driving home. It's Steinn thirty eight night, I'll call him. Wow, 883 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, and like that's never stopped. 884 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 4: He He's just a complete ace in that regard, and 885 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 4: it's it's you know, I'm thrilled for the success that 886 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 4: program had last year and was building too. I think 887 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 4: this year, you know, we're flying a little bit under 888 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,720 Speaker 4: the radar, and obviously Kenny Pickett not being. 889 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: There, it doesn't has a lot to do with that. 890 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 4: But you know, with Slovas, Keaton Slovas being on the 891 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 4: squad now and Nick patty Back, I think this team 892 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 4: has a chance to repeat I really do the talent 893 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 4: level they've had. But in terms of what people don't 894 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 4: know about Pat, they see the guy that's brash, defensive guy. 895 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 4: On aside, we're probably in the referees here a lot, 896 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 4: pretty demonstrative. But you know, underneath that is a dude 897 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 4: that really cares, that loves being here, and that takes 898 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 4: great care of the people that love this program. And 899 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 4: we're really lucky as our coach and he fits perfect. 900 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: Man. 901 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: I was really hoping you were going to say, like, 902 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: he is an undefeated foosball player, he is super into 903 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 2: Martin Scorsese movies. He plays the bassoon like there's no 904 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: wrinkle beneath that surface of professionalism. 905 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got three daughters. Yeah, softy, Sure he 906 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 4: would be nowhere in life without his wife Donna. I mean, 907 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 4: but there's no like this guy works from five o'clock 908 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 4: in the morning until midnight. Okay, He's just there's and 909 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 4: like a lot of college coaches do. I'm not when 910 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 4: he's not rewriting the book on how to be a coach. 911 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: But his son's a really good golfer, probably like a 912 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 4: two handicap Pat and great they're both named Patrick, so Okay, 913 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 4: there's a little tidbit. 914 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got nothing there though. 915 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: I was just say I'm gonna give you an easier 916 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 2: question then, because you get what you see, you can't 917 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 2: answer Priman brothers. Where should I eat the next time 918 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 2: I come to Pittsburgh and a pit game that is 919 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: specifically a favorite of Papostik, I go. 920 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 4: To Serafinos down in Crafton. Okay, it's a little mom 921 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 4: and pop Italian joint. 922 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: You know it's you know it is. You know they're 923 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: two brothers. 924 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 4: Joevin Dean Callaguire, Joe Callaguire owns it. The restaurant Joe 925 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 4: played at Temple Dean was alignment at pitt Love it. 926 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 4: You walk in, you get you know either byo it's 927 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 4: b yob. You like a little you bring give you 928 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 4: like a little Dixie cup to drink. 929 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: Your wine out of it. 930 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: I'll bring a piece out as an advertiser, beans and 931 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 4: green salad. 932 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: And that's just the beginning. Mm hmm. But you come in, 933 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: you guys, come in. You let me know. 934 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 4: I'll hook you guys up with with Joey down there 935 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 4: that our staff, our football staff goes are a lot, 936 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 4: you know. Kenny Pickett's been spotted there eating without his 937 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 4: gloves on, So it's a it's a I would highly 938 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 4: recommend that. Plus it's got the pit flavor to the 939 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 4: pit helmets in there to give you the give you 940 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 4: the feel wonderful. 941 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 3: Well again, his name Pat Bostic, forever part of college 942 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 3: football lore. You can listen to his fine coverage every 943 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 3: Saturday for the pitt Panthers. Pat, thank you so much. 944 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 3: We really appreciate this. 945 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, boys, thanks for having me. 946 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 3: All right, Dan, there you go. Nice little change of 947 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 3: pace here. I liked it, just to mix up the 948 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 3: chemistry between you and I. Mister Bostic generous enough of 949 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,919 Speaker 3: this time to stop by and give us some insight. 950 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 2: And gave us a nugget about where to eat in Pittsburgh. 951 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 2: And that Pat Nardoozi cannot play golf. 952 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 3: Cannot play golf. Okay, another a fellow Pat nugget. Next Pat, please? 953 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 2: All right, next Pat, here we go. Let's go to 954 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 2: this cornerback had no choice but to be a college 955 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 2: and NFL success. It runs in his blood. 956 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 3: That would be Patrick Sirtan, the second. 957 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 2: Correct ammoun though Ty, so I gotta be a most 958 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 2: difficult nugget to find. 959 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: For me. 960 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you. Yeah, I found nothing 961 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: interesting about Pat Sirtan. The second. 962 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 2: Okay, I found a couple things, but. 963 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 3: It's found nothing, And you know, maybe I'm showing my 964 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 3: age here. But then I start wondering, like, is he 965 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 3: really happy? 966 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 2: Is he happy? 967 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,040 Speaker 3: Because all I can find about him anywhere is the 968 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 3: fact that he plays football. Nothing about his personality. I 969 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 3: mean it went on his Instagram. It's somebody else's running 970 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 3: his instagram. I could find nothing really that gives me 971 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 3: any insight into the person Patrick Sirtan. The second. 972 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 2: All I had was that he did a quick books 973 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 2: ad or two for the Super Bowl, and also he 974 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: did a video with his dad which was actually pretty good, 975 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: and it was sponsored by Eukos Greek yogurt. And so 976 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: the only DBI could find who has a shares a 977 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 2: sponsorship opportunity with John Stamos. Yeah, Patrick Sirtan the second, Like, 978 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: the CIA doesn't even have a profile on this guy 979 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: into the addresser, I guess number one cornerback in the 980 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 2: nation out of high school class of twenty eighteen, won 981 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 2: three state championships in high school. He was so feared 982 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: his final year at Alabama that they targeted him just 983 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 2: forty eight times times only surrendered twenty one completions. He's 984 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 2: obviously very good as a rookie. He came out and 985 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 2: I think second game started playing for the Broncos was 986 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 2: like all rookie, so incredible talent, Like you said, really 987 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 2: had no choice but to be an incredible talent. I 988 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: would love to know more about Patrick Sirtan the Second 989 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 2: slash Junior same and what he's like, what he does 990 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 2: for fun, what he's into, what food he likes. 991 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 3: I don't usually like the food thing. We don't have 992 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,919 Speaker 3: to talk about the food thing again. That little rant 993 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 3: that I did in the last two shows again know 994 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 3: you love it, but I would in this instance, I 995 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 3: would like to know what Patrick Sartan the Second is 996 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 3: into from the food standpoint, like, just give me something 997 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 3: other than it's gotta be something great. 998 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 2: It's all terrible because he does lead to it. Seems 999 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 2: a pretty private life. He doesn't put a lot of 1000 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 2: himself out there. But like I I did some digging, 1001 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't, Like, I want to find out that Patrick 1002 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 2: Sartan the Second breeds iguanas. 1003 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah whoa really? 1004 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? But I couldn't find that Patrick Stan certainly a 1005 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 2: remarkable Patrick though the next guy. Are you ready? Yeah, 1006 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 2: this lefty QB was somewhat lean and unstoppable in college, 1007 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 2: especially in the NCAA video games. 1008 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we talked about Pat White. Yeah, we talked 1009 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 3: about Pat White with Pat Bostick. Pat White was part 1010 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 3: of that game with Pat Bostick and Pat McAfee. 1011 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: Mm hm. 1012 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 3: Pat White was incredible as an athlete. 1013 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: He was. 1014 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 3: He was caught up in that wave of the wildcat 1015 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 3: in the NFL, so drafted by the Dolphins in nine. 1016 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 3: You'll recall that this was when the NFL was trying 1017 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 3: to figure out how it could use the wildcat, and 1018 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 3: we had John Gruden calling games talking about the wildcat. 1019 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 3: Everybody was getting into the wildcat and what it could be. 1020 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 3: And Pat White was just so damn athletic that he 1021 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 3: came in and you know, had had a brief career 1022 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 3: in the NFL doing just that. Wasn't much of a thrower, 1023 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 3: but certainly had the athleticism where he could go in 1024 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,800 Speaker 3: in a specialized package and do that. As I said earlier, 1025 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 3: for a brief moment in time, was the all time 1026 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 3: leading quarterback rusher in nc DOUBLEA history before he was 1027 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 3: overtaken by Dinard Robinson, and the controversy around that was 1028 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 3: because of the way that Dinard Robinson was used. He 1029 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 3: took some handoffs as a running back, so Nard Dog, 1030 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 3: you know, very versatile in his own right, but he 1031 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 3: took some carries as a running back and as a 1032 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 3: result of that, got like a fifteen yard boost over 1033 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 3: Pat White. And because of the way that the NCAA 1034 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 3: treated it, they actually gave Dinard Robinson the nod over 1035 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 3: Pat White with respect to quarterback rushing yards. 1036 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 2: So that was not. 1037 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 3: Very well received by many West Virginia fans and really 1038 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 3: just anybody who watched Pat White because he was purely 1039 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 3: doing it as a quarterback. An a credible athlete, I think, 1040 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 3: was drafted pretty highly by the Anaheim Angels. Could play 1041 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 3: baseball if he wanted. So this was somebody who was 1042 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 3: just a freak athlete. As mister Bostick said a little while. 1043 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: Ago, considered leaving the West Virginia football team to play 1044 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 2: baseball when he was not getting playing time, claims to 1045 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 2: have turned down a corvette from Alabama or Alabama interests. 1046 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 2: Alabama Boosters in two thousand and four. Is the current 1047 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach of the Campbell Camels. Yes, so he is 1048 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: working his way up the coaching ladder, which is pretty 1049 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,720 Speaker 2: cool to see that he has stayed in the game. 1050 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 2: And I mean everything you said is correct about his 1051 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: ability on the field when you have that type of 1052 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 2: Swiss Army knife one just terrific in the video game two, 1053 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 2: allegedly Pat White in the video game two. When you 1054 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: look at recent dangerous duos in the backfield, like a 1055 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: lot of the times you'll have like, oh, it's like 1056 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 2: Cam Newton and Trey Mason. Okay, that's interesting. But in 1057 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 2: terms of pure speed and the lethal nature of having 1058 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 2: two guys in the backfield like that, there are not 1059 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 2: many that are remembered as fondly as Pat White and 1060 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 2: Steve Slayton, especially because they were playing it just the 1061 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 2: most ideal system coach by Rich Rod. So, yeah, you'd 1062 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 2: be hard pressed to find a college football fan who 1063 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 2: does anything less than gush about that duo during their heyday. 1064 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,840 Speaker 3: He was incredible and Stan was incredible. They were just 1065 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 3: ridiculous back there. And you know, as Pat Bostik said it, 1066 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 3: that game, that game in O seven definitely changed trajectory 1067 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 3: to some extent. Yeah, but you'll never really take away 1068 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 3: that just that dynamic duo. Amazing, totally, totally all right, 1069 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 3: next question, you got one more, I think, so let 1070 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 3: me make sure, uh here, this linebacker should be in 1071 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame because he is the best linebacker 1072 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 3: of all of the linebackers per me. Yeah it's Patrick Willis. 1073 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 3: This is Patrick Willis, right, of course it's Patrick Willis. Yeah, 1074 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 3: Patrick Willis. 1075 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 2: I was stunned. 1076 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 3: So look, we do a college football show. By extension. 1077 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 3: We pay attention to the NFL, we pay attention to 1078 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 3: all sports. 1079 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: We're into it. 1080 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not into Halls of Fame. 1081 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: You know that. Mm hmm. 1082 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 3: I think they're stupid. 1083 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: Good use of halls, thank you. 1084 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 3: I this is one of the reasons why I don't 1085 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 3: like him. Yeah, how can he not be in the 1086 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame? 1087 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he retired relatively, or he. 1088 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 3: Retired in his prime at thirty, but even still, he's 1089 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 3: been a candidate now for I think a couple of years. 1090 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 3: How is he not a no brainer first ballot Hall 1091 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 3: of Famer? I don't get it. 1092 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 2: I don't either. There are certain stats about him. We 1093 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 2: could bring on my brother, who you know, does all 1094 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 2: sorts of stats stuff with John Boyce now, but it 1095 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 2: was something like he was exclusively an all pro in 1096 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 2: his first six years, his first it was merely a 1097 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: pro bowler in his seventh year, and then didn't really 1098 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 2: play his final season, but exclusive played next to Navarro Bowman. 1099 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: Of course. But Patrick Willis in terms of college right, 1100 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 2: Mike McIntyre is his main recruiter at Ole Miss. Patrick 1101 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 2: Willis was desperate. He grows up in Tennessee desperate to 1102 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: be avall and they're recruiting two other guys, one of 1103 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 2: which is Ernie Simms, who doesn't even go to Tennessee, 1104 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 2: goes to Florida Stateton has a good career for the Knowles, 1105 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 2: desperate to go to Tennessee, was not considered a priority. 1106 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 2: Went to Ole Miss first under David Cutcliffe, then under 1107 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 2: ed Ojeron and absolutely dominated. Is an any all Whatever 1108 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 2: team you want to discuss that you're gonna put together 1109 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 2: on defense must include Patrick Willis at linebacker and so 1110 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 2: sideline to sideline. Incredible athlete, affable personality, and just has 1111 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: an unbelievable NFL combine where he puts up just jaw 1112 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 2: dropping stats and is. 1113 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 3: In clearly Hall of Fame caliber. 1114 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 2: For the San Francisco forty nine ers. So Patrick Willison 1115 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 2: all timer for me, grew up with the name Boss 1116 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah and had a difficult childhood for sure, in a 1117 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 2: rural area of Tennessee. But what he was able to overcome, 1118 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 2: and the Patrick Wellis story is tremendous. 1119 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 3: I believe Bruceton, Tennessee, is where he was born and raised. 1120 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 3: He was ranked as a three star prospect and the 1121 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 3: seven hundred and eighty third best player in the class 1122 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 3: of two thousand and three. He only had offers from 1123 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 3: places like Arkansas State, Memphis, and Mississippi State. Then he 1124 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 3: got the one from wal Miss and decided to go there. 1125 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 3: He actually went back and delivered the commencement address at Ole, 1126 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 3: Miss back in twenty twenty. You mentioned the combine. The 1127 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 3: numbers were great. At the combine, he ran a four 1128 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 3: or five five. The numbers were better at OLBIS Pro 1129 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 3: Day he ran a four to three eight. Okay, like 1130 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 3: that may be commonplace nowadays because you know, objectively, we 1131 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 3: do have better athletes, right Training is better. These guys 1132 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 3: are faster, they're playing more of a hybrid style. It's 1133 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 3: just and compare eras that's part of the reason why. 1134 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 3: But a four to three eight if you're Patrick Willis 1135 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 3: is still a fourth three eight. If you're Patrick Willis, 1136 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 3: a four to three eight is a linebacker who can 1137 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 3: have this kind of impact he said, sideline the sideline. Yeah, 1138 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: I mean, those guys just don't grow on trees, even 1139 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 3: now when guys are so much more athletics. So yeah, 1140 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 3: just an incredible athlete, clearly the dominant defensive player of 1141 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 3: his era. I don't somebody who I don't know. I mean, 1142 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 3: we've had NFL guys in this show. Maybe somebody can 1143 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 3: explain it to me. I don't understand how he's in 1144 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:28,919 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. 1145 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should just give him retire finalists last year, 1146 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: so he's been eligible for three years. But yeah, well, 1147 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 2: I mean I don't get it. Insane to me? 1148 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,919 Speaker 3: How is he not in the Hall of Fame? 1149 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: Is it? Did he win a championship? I guess he 1150 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 2: went to he didn't want a championship, went to the 1151 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't matter. I don't think as much 1152 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 2: for a linebacker F EQUALSMA All Star. Absolutely went to 1153 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with was the the Harbaugh Kaepernick when 1154 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 2: they lost to the Ravens. Yeah, right, yeah, so incredible. 1155 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 2: I have a couple of other bonus pats if you 1156 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 2: want to get into. 1157 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 3: Let's just do some rapid fire pats here. You can 1158 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 3: do rapid fire. 1159 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 2: So we have what we had, Bostic, McAfee, White, Willis Mahomes, Peterson, Chung, Fisher, 1160 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Certan the second Fitzpatrick. All because they were relatively recent 1161 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: in the two thousands. Obviously, the I think the most 1162 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 2: highly thought of college football pat of if you extend 1163 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 2: it past the two thousands, is Pat Tillman. Yes, in 1164 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 2: the nineties for Arizona State head coach was Bruce Snyder. 1165 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Do you know who Pat Tillman's We have a sound 1166 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 2: drop about Pat Tillman's defensive coordinator at Arizona State? We do, 1167 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 2: we do? I mean you probably have it deep in 1168 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 2: the in the bowels of your your iPad sounds. I don't. 1169 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 3: It's not ringing a bell. 1170 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 2: His defensive coordinator ASU was Phil Snow Oh yeah, okay, 1171 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 2: no effect whatever we call the Snow alert. And he 1172 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 2: was I mean, obviously he was great at ASU ended 1173 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: up as a really strong NFL player, and the story 1174 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 2: obviously known about the tragedy that he suffered in Afghanistan. 1175 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 2: The friendly fire and the foundation that's been in his name. 1176 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 2: Like he's just how do you speak illy but poorly 1177 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 2: of Pat Tillman. He's just an all timer. I didn't 1178 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 2: remember and this is more about ASU in the nineties, 1179 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 2: but it was Pat Tillman's participation. He was a part 1180 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 2: of and had a major play in maybe the most 1181 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,439 Speaker 2: embarrassing loss for a number one in the nation, number 1182 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 2: one ranked team nineteen ninety six, Nebraska lost to ASU 1183 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 2: nineteen to nothing. The number one team of the nation 1184 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 2: shut out the all powerful you know, Nebraska dynasty shut 1185 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 2: out in nineteen ninety six, which was the Jake Plumber 1186 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Rose Bowl season, and Pat Tillman his specific responsibility in 1187 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 2: that game was sort of spying and the lane for 1188 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 2: Aman Green on the pitch plays that Nebraska was wrong, 1189 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 2: which is a tough one. We covered a key fumble. 1190 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Pat Tillman just a terrific career. Played out, you know, 1191 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 2: he didn't in two thousand and one. He played out 1192 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,919 Speaker 2: that season, got married, had a honeymoon in Bora, Bora, 1193 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 2: and then enlisted. 1194 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 3: Enlisted involuntary two thousand and two with his brother Kevin, 1195 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 3: with his brother, Yes, Pat Tillman, all time, Pat of course, 1196 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 3: Pat Fitzgerald. There's a piece from Teddy Greenstein then of 1197 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 3: the I think it was the Chicago Tribune. One of 1198 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 3: the Chicago papers did like a hundred facts about Pat Fitzgerald. 1199 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 2: There are many. I don't know if there was anything 1200 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 2: that you want to know about Pat Fitzgeral's playing career, 1201 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 2: whatever he like. He was named one of the all 1202 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 2: time best college players to never do anything in the 1203 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 2: pros and immediately he coached at Idaho. He was told 1204 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 2: by Mike Ditka when he attended Saints cam he was like, 1205 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 2: maybe you should put that Northwestern degree abuse, but he was. 1206 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 2: He was back at his alma mater in no time. 1207 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 2: He has highly thought of and the pun that I 1208 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 2: enjoyed was obviously. Northwestern got a new facility here a 1209 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, right on the lake, big glass structure. 1210 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 2: It has been dubbed the fitz Carlton. 1211 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 3: Which I like that. I just have that he's a 1212 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 3: big white Sox fan and that he throws lefty. 1213 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 2: Throws lefty, fist bumps lefty. I saw that in that 1214 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 2: one has as a I think three boys, and what 1215 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 2: he's done at Northwestern has been mostly incredible and far 1216 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,919 Speaker 2: out paces any run that a Stanford coach, a Vanderbilt coach, 1217 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Duke Georgia Tech schools in that same sort of academic 1218 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 2: level have accomplished and you don't have a job for life. 1219 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure at Northwestern with all that he's accomplished. 1220 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 3: There, yep, Okay, who else we got? 1221 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 2: We talked about Pat and Ardoozy a little. His dad 1222 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 2: was a head coach at Youngstown State. Go Penguins. We've 1223 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 2: got a Pat who lost his pants mysteriously, and may 1224 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Pat die rest in peace. He in the story that 1225 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 2: I read, because I read a bunch of I knew 1226 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 2: of the pants story, but it was he never understood 1227 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 2: how his pants got there with his car keys and 1228 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 2: his wallet in a in Alabama that he then auctioned 1229 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 2: off as part of an annual soire that he threw. 1230 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 2: So he had of the Auburn LSU game. 1231 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he lost his pants, doesn't know how correct, just 1232 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 3: sort of brush it off as well, you know sometimes 1233 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 3: you lose pants. 1234 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's. 1235 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 3: Doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Yeah, lost his 1236 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 3: pants in the lake and then somebody found him years later. 1237 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 1238 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 3: Went through the wallet that was still I guess preserved 1239 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 3: to some extent down there found him through an intermediary 1240 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 3: mm hmm, and then before long he ends up being 1241 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 3: reunited with his pants, and then of course auctions him off. 1242 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have a long lost article of clothing 1243 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 2: that you would love to be reunited with? 1244 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 3: I would actually for people watching the video, Yeah, I 1245 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 3: printed up a picture of the mobile Leprechaun, the famous 1246 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 3: YouTube video one of my favorite ball time. I printed 1247 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 3: out a picture of the amateur sketch of the Leprechaun. 1248 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 3: I have a green T shirt somewhere with that Leprechaun 1249 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 3: on it. I searched desperately to try and find it 1250 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 3: right before hitting record. I have no idea where it is. 1251 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 3: It's buried somewhere within the bowels here of Soliverbal East. 1252 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't know where it is, but I'd love to 1253 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 3: be able to find that because this is quite literally 1254 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 3: the only day of the year that I can wear it. 1255 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 2: It's true, I don't really I have an organ shirt 1256 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 2: that I lost, and it's a gold, a good old 1257 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 2: vintage organ type shirt. But I don't don't know if 1258 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 2: I really have one like that. 1259 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 3: I've never had a situation, Let's put this way. I've 1260 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 3: never had a situation where I lost my pants and 1261 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't recall why I lost my pants or anything, like, 1262 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 3: I've never had a thing like that, Like Pat. 1263 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 2: Day, You've never had a situation where you had to 1264 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: quickly escape somebody else's bedroom or something like that and 1265 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 2: you left an article of clothing behind that like you 1266 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 2: were walked in on by a jilted lover. No, nothing 1267 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 2: like that. No, same, Okay, have you ever? Oh this 1268 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 2: is getting real personal. I love this. I had this 1269 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 2: situation where stopped seeing somebody, article of clothing was left 1270 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 2: somewhere else. Kind of liked it, but not enough to 1271 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 2: be like, I'm going to have this awkward exchange at 1272 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 2: some point at a coffee shop. So I just sort 1273 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 2: of said, it's cool, don't worry about it. 1274 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 3: I've not had that situation. 1275 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: I was a. 1276 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 2: Wisconsin shirt that I liked, a very soft Wisconsin shirt 1277 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 2: that I got in Madison. Oh well, Pat Hill, anytime, anywhere, anytime, anywhere, 1278 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 2: has there been a better college football fu manchu. Some 1279 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 2: say no, most should say no, if not all no. 1280 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: Pat Hill always known for that Pat Summer, all beloved 1281 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 2: bow y'all. He was a kicker for Arkansas, but also 1282 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 2: I think played tight end and on the defensive line 1283 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 2: and is one of the like I mean it was 1284 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 2: with Madden forever. 1285 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 1286 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how you won a super Bowl way 1287 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 2: back when, I think with the Lions in his rookie season, 1288 01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 2: but is one of the Hall of Fame voices of 1289 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 2: NFL broadcasting without question. Pat summer All would yeah, incredible. 1290 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, we have Mike Patrick. What's Britney Doing? 1291 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 3: Mike Patrick called a lot of big games were college basketball, 1292 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 3: He worked everything. I mean, the guy's been around, a 1293 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 3: legendary broadcaster in his own right. I have nothing but 1294 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 3: kind words to say about Mike Patrick, but I will 1295 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 3: never forget that Britney moment. 1296 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 2: And just and has since since revisited that moment on air. 1297 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was with Todd Blacklitch who was very confused. 1298 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 3: Todd Blacklitch had no idea what the hell was going on. 1299 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 3: None we were and I'm not giving anything away, we 1300 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 3: were told some additional context along our journey here on 1301 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 3: the solid verbal off air, we were told we were 1302 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 3: told some additional context to the What's Britney doing? Why 1303 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 3: it took place, how it took place, why it took place? 1304 01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 3: When it took place specifically, and there is more or 1305 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 3: to that story. Yeah, was there was some some discontent 1306 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 3: perhaps behind that story. Is that fair to say we're 1307 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 3: gonna have to talk about this software Okay, I'm not 1308 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: sure I fully remember it, but I sort of remember it, 1309 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 3: and Okay, if my memory serves I believe the answer 1310 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 3: is yes. 1311 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, thank you. We have Well I just threw 1312 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 2: this one in here. Patrick Collen was to me a 1313 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 2: relatively forgettable career at UCLA at quarterback, but is a 1314 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 2: quarterback who was probably annihilated in a unique way when 1315 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 2: Ray mal Luga in a UCLA win, cut him off 1316 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 2: heading to the sideline as Collen was scrambling for a 1317 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,600 Speaker 2: first down and man. 1318 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 3: Ray was violence. Yeah, Ray mal Luga. Another F equals 1319 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 3: MA All Star. Oh my god, yes, yeah. 1320 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 2: Oh man, we're gonna come up with the F equals 1321 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 2: M All Star team. 1322 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 3: We can do that. Oh I'd love to do that. 1323 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 3: We can do Trent Richardson all over again. 1324 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1325 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have Patrick Manley here, talk about Patrick Manley. 1326 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 2: Patrick Manley, this is a good one. A duke long 1327 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 2: snapper who has one of the most if not the 1328 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 2: most decorated long snapping careers in the NFL. He's with 1329 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,679 Speaker 2: the Bears forever, makes a good amount of money because 1330 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 2: he I think he set He's the current record holder 1331 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears in terms of games played and 1332 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:27,959 Speaker 2: is now the namesake of Colleges of College Football's annual 1333 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 2: long snapping Trophy and is married to the daughter of 1334 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 2: one Tommy John Patrick Manley. 1335 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 3: Here here's what I found about him that I thought 1336 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 3: was just so damn interesting, and it's totally simpatico with 1337 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 3: you and I. 1338 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a former. 1339 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 3: Special teams coach of his says that this is a 1340 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 3: guy who's a perfectionist, and in many ways he revolutionized 1341 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 3: the position of long snapping, and to the extent where 1342 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 3: he came up with drills that could help make him 1343 01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 3: better make others better. But he was the first per 1344 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 3: this Dave Tube. I want to say, however, you say 1345 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,519 Speaker 3: it to actually count the rotations of the ball on 1346 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 3: a short man, I saw that too, Yeah, And the 1347 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 3: reason for doing that is so that the holder who 1348 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 3: receives the ball never gets the laces correct, never catches 1349 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 3: the laces, and therefore, you know, it's a cleaner transition 1350 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 3: from catching the snap to putting it down on the ground. 1351 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 3: So that was the dedication to the craft of one 1352 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 3: Patrick Manley, which is incredible. 1353 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a level of dedication there that man. 1354 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,559 Speaker 2: I wonder, did he get one of like a thousand 1355 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 2: frame per second? Well, they were like, yeah, that was 1356 01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 2: my question because what technology did he use? Yeah? 1357 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 3: Did they even like I don't know if they had 1358 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 3: those super high speed cameras like right they have now 1359 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 3: I guess you could probably do. 1360 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 2: With sixty frames or one hundred and twenty frames. But yeah, 1361 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 2: still the attention to detail, I mean, especially in the 1362 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 2: wake of the first as Ventura which really which really 1363 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 2: you know, shine shone that light laces out English and Dan, Yeah, 1364 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 2: lace is out laces out Dan. Yeah. Essentially the successful 1365 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 2: lefty middle reliever of the NFL, maybe short of Chase Daniel, 1366 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 2: who I don't know if you saw, just signed another 1367 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 2: like one point two million dollar deal and has made 1368 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 2: I think Spencer hal tweeded this out something like three 1369 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars per completion in the NFL. But yes, Also, 1370 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: the other nugget about Patrick Manley is the only one 1371 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 2: on this list who I could find whose mother is 1372 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 2: a Patty, So you have a double Patty and Patrick 1373 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 2: as well here. So Patrick Mannley, who I think does 1374 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 2: radio here locally in Chicago. When you're the best to 1375 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 2: ever do it allegedly at your position, you got to 1376 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 2: be honored on this show. 1377 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 3: This is what we got to do off season content. 1378 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 3: We can bring McAfee on a Pat, we can bring 1379 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 3: Mantally on a Pat. Two specialists in their own right. 1380 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 2: It's sort of like the Frost Nixon like. You get 1381 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 2: these two minds in the same room to bounce. Yeah, 1382 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 2: you get the long snapper and the punter to talk 1383 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 2: about the interplay and the relationship between a long snapper 1384 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 2: and a punter. We've actually had a long snapper on 1385 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,799 Speaker 2: this show, if you remember I do. Jeff Palmer, Oregon 1386 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 2: long snapper was on the solid so he would not 1387 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 2: be the first long snapper to appear on the show. 1388 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 2: But number two is not bad. Patrick Manley, there you go, 1389 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 2: all right, another notable pat. So you need to let 1390 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,680 Speaker 2: us know in listening to this show, we did our 1391 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,640 Speaker 2: best to nail the most that the highest number of 1392 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 2: Pat's and Patrick's being the first name you know this, 1393 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 2: Minka Fitzpatrick, who did else did we leave off. 1394 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 3: Patrick O'Brien, Patrick Carross so I saw as a minister 1395 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 3: for Ohio State. 1396 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh oh, good for him. 1397 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,640 Speaker 3: Patrick, Queen Dez Fitzpatrick. 1398 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 2: Yep, Louisville and Lelisu. 1399 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we mentioned Minca earlier with that controversy with Ryan Fitzpatrick. 1400 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,799 Speaker 3: So there are a number there, sure of court Patrick's 1401 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,600 Speaker 3: sort of been a name for a while, hence the 1402 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,719 Speaker 3: name of the day. So if there are any notables 1403 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 3: that we missed, please do write in soliverbal at Gmail. 1404 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 2: And obviously there are there are pattersons, you know. We 1405 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 2: we had to cut it off somewhere with the last name, 1406 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 2: but including the the Patrick part of the last name 1407 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 2: we felt was clutch absolutely. 1408 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,879 Speaker 3: Soliverbal atgmail dot com as always is the email address, 1409 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 3: don't forget. Also on social media across all platforms you 1410 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 3: can find us. But let us know if there are 1411 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 3: any notables that we missed in our Saint Patrick's day. 1412 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 3: Patri stravaganza here on the. 1413 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Patchelor Party is how I've love it. 1414 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well this has been fun, Dan, a 1415 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 3: little change of pace, little detur, little detour. We hope 1416 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,240 Speaker 3: everybody enjoyed this. We hope everybody enjoys their weekend. Don't 1417 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 3: forget for Ballers dot com is where you can go 1418 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 3: and be part of Patreon community. We also do a 1419 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 3: brew and a every Friday which you get asked Q 1420 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 3: and X yeah Q and a bonus content. We're usually 1421 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 3: drinking out of our mugs, or well usually out of 1422 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 3: our mugs because we do it earlier in the day, 1423 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 3: but as the season gets here, we'll be drinking out 1424 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,520 Speaker 3: of the glasses with a brown liquid or two. Ooh, 1425 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 3: I like that, just keep things fresh. For that guy there, 1426 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 3: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilton Brand, 1427 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 3: thank you so much for downloading, listening, and playing along 1428 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 3: our fund liable game here at home. Happy Saint Patrick's Day. 1429 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,759 Speaker 3: We'll talk to yell Sion in meantime. 1430 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 2: Stay solid, peace,