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Speaker 1: It is Monday, September fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: Who's Reeber?

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Speaker 5: That's the question of the day. Welcome in. It is

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Speaker 5: Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: J P.

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Speaker 5: Shadrick with you busy two.

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Speaker 1: Hours ahead the Monday after the Jaguars lost to the

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Speaker 1: Pingles in week two thirty one, twenty seven, the final

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Speaker 1: plenty to dissect some good, some not so good. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to it all missed opportunities late the Jaguars had

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Speaker 1: it in their hands, they had a chance to win it.

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Speaker 1: They had it in their hands multiple times and dropped

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Speaker 1: it literally multiple times.

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Speaker 5: We'll dig into that.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep it real on the relationship between the head

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Speaker 1: coach and the quarterback. When a viral sensation Today after

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Speaker 1: the CBS camera has picked up some things on the field,

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Speaker 1: fanat Expan questions in the second hour, and we'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. We walk him in. Former

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defensive lineman Austin Lane and studio with us today

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 6: How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: I mean, let's keep it real right now. Can we

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Speaker 6: get like an emotional support animal for this show today?

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Speaker 6: Because I feel like we all need like a dog

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Speaker 6: or something to kind of just sit here and pat

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Speaker 6: and try to get through this this episode.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should go back to the grounding.

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Speaker 6: I need more than I think Jesse mccarthur needs more

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Speaker 6: than grounding man, because that was a that was a

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Speaker 6: rough showing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Pete Prisco with us in South I'm here, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Pete? Good afternoon, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: How are you guys?

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Speaker 5: Good hanging in?

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Speaker 1: You know, I woke up this morning, Pete, and the

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Speaker 1: sky was still in the sky.

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Speaker 5: It didn't fall. Imagine that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Brian Thomas didn't drop it.

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Speaker 1: Well that, you know, seemed to be a trend yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Look, Jacksonville Jayward should have won that football game, period,

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Speaker 3: end of story. They had no business losing that game none,

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Speaker 3: particularly once saying out Joe Burrow out of the game

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Speaker 3: and when you look at what happened, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to go through all of it, but in.

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Speaker 4: The end, they had no business losing that game. They

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Speaker 4: were the better team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't know Austin.

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Speaker 6: They did lose it, and I get it. We can

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Speaker 6: sit up here and say because I've seen the solver

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Speaker 6: social media. I think Liam Cohen really answered the questions

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Speaker 6: after the game with the press conference where there were

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Speaker 6: some bad calls. Right, there was the Travis Hunter call. Sure,

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Speaker 6: there was the Trey Von Walker call where it could

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Speaker 6: have been a fumble, and then there was the call

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Speaker 6: on Devin lad great interception where was he down or not? Okay,

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Speaker 6: So three calls right there that could have made the

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Speaker 6: difference in the game. But the point is we can

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Speaker 6: sit up here and break those apart if you want to.

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Speaker 6: That's not why they lost, right, And I think Liam

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Speaker 6: Cohen's got to get this as well, where it's like

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Speaker 6: you can sit there and say, all right, you know,

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Speaker 6: Travis Hunter was a good player, Travis Hunter. We want

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Speaker 6: to see the Bengals try to win the game and

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Speaker 6: not get granted that that penalty, Sure, but how about

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Speaker 6: the penalties on your set, you know, on your part,

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Speaker 6: how about the self inflected penalty, the.

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Speaker 1: Legal shifts that were all declined. What in the world

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Speaker 1: was that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, had an illegal shift on a legal motion on

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Speaker 3: the interception?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot to clean up, but there

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Speaker 3: was a lot to like coming out of that game too,

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Speaker 3: and a lot not to like.

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Speaker 4: So wait, we're gonna die, right, I mean there are

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Speaker 4: so many things.

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Speaker 3: And look, the topic of conversation you talked about the

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Speaker 3: quarterback and the coach.

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Speaker 4: Relationship being the topic. No, that's not the topic.

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Speaker 3: The topic is how a number one wide receiver has

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Speaker 3: become a shell of himself. And we heard rumblings of that,

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Speaker 3: and you guys saw it all summer long. What's wrong

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Speaker 3: with Brian Thomas? Why won't he win the fifty to

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Speaker 3: fifty balls? Why doesn't he practice well? Why is he

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Speaker 3: had issues in practice all summer long?

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Speaker 1: Remember last week on Keeping It Real, we said, was

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Speaker 1: the seven target, one catch performance last week? Was it

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Speaker 1: a blip on the radar or a sign of things

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Speaker 1: to come? And we all kind of said, Okay, blip

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Speaker 1: on the radar. Let's see how it goes. Now it

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Speaker 1: goes to twelve targets, four catches, and a couple where

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Speaker 1: he bailed out and didn't go catch the hospital ball.

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Speaker 5: That's tough.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but okay, let's talk about the hospital ball, okay,

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Speaker 7: And I'm gonna reference Jimmy Smith, who questioned this toughness

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Speaker 7: on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys are at X, did

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Speaker 4: you see that?

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Speaker 3: And Jimmy Smith was a big time I mean, Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Smith is arguably a Hall of Famer, I mean close

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Speaker 4: But he questioned his toughness. And if I'm a wide

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Speaker 3: A guy of Jimmy Smith's stature has questioned in my toughness,

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Speaker 3: there's an issue there. And now I imagine his teenags

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Speaker 3: are going to start questioning his toughness. You know you

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Speaker 3: said hospital ball, JP.

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Speaker 4: Yes, was it really a hospital ball? Or did he

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Speaker 4: just stop.

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Speaker 1: The first one where he tipped it for the interception?

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't running full speed? Right? I mean it

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Speaker 1: was like kind of a short little cross and you know,

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Speaker 4: Now there's two ways to look at that. Should he

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Speaker 4: have was he sitting.

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Speaker 3: Down because he saw those two guys in front of

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Speaker 4: It might be a combination of the two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Cohen said today that Okay, maybe he probably led

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Speaker 5: Are some of that in there well?

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Speaker 3: Leam also said that they ran that play against Miami

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Speaker 3: in practice, and I don't remember it being run that

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Speaker 4: But my memory isn't as good as his. But I

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Speaker 3: To that where they looked like he started in the

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Speaker 4: They hit it for a big play. Do you remember that.

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Speaker 1: I do remember that one, yeah, where he ran for

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Speaker 1: about forty or fifty and Miami.

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Speaker 4: Yeah again, Miami in the in the workout, Yeah there, Austin.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't remember one where you went in the

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Speaker 5: Be a wild well off.

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Speaker 6: But guys, let's keep in mind here, even though it

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Speaker 6: very rarely are you going to have an opposing player

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Speaker 6: cheap I don't say a cheap shop with lowering a

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Speaker 6: the whole time during that Miami Dolphins practice, how much

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Speaker 6: bt Jay was shining, how much he was eating right, well,

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Speaker 6: that that practice was kind of catered towards him, because

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Speaker 6: you have safety, they're gonna come down and not deliver

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Speaker 6: the hit on you. You're gonna have safties. They are probably

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Speaker 6: gonna wrap up as opposed to maybe trying to lay

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Speaker 6: you out. When we talk about a game setting, you know,

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Speaker 6: against the Bengals, you saw a guy who was afraid

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Speaker 6: to run across the field and take a hit. And

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Speaker 6: I sent you guys this this morning, the text message.

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Speaker 6: This stem from I believe the Pittsburgh Steelers game when

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Speaker 6: he ran across the field in the preseason and in

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Speaker 6: the preseason, he runs across the field, Yeah, he gets hit.

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Speaker 6: Everyone you know that. The announcers acknowledge and everything. He

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Speaker 6: pops right back up, he runs back to the huddle

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Speaker 6: and everything. We think it's all fine. But I think

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Speaker 6: that moment there showed that it wasn't fine because the

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Speaker 6: very next week they run the exact same play against

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Speaker 6: the Saints, and uncharacteristically, Brian Thomas Junior, instead of just

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Speaker 6: catching the ball, he almost like baseball slides when he

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Speaker 6: didn't have to because he's afraid to get hit across

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Speaker 6: the middle, and that's what I think is happening right

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Speaker 6: now with Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 4: No Austin. It's funny because he did that on Sunday too.

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Speaker 4: Had a chance to catch a slant and run up

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Speaker 3: He could have been a twenty five yard play and

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Speaker 3: he slid down and the Bengals players like looked around, like.

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Speaker 4: What the heck is going on here? Yeah, So he

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Speaker 4: had that play, He had.

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Speaker 3: The one arm play in the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell he was doing there.

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Speaker 3: He was he was afraid to get blast on that play.

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Speaker 3: And then the alligator arm in the middle of the

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the field. That's three plays right there.

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Speaker 3: And you know, he ran a shallow on that one cross.

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Speaker 4: Near the goal line. He should have been a little

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Speaker 4: deeper on that play, do you remember.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so there's a bunch of them bad plays

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Speaker 3: for him. And you know, we talked about the Steelers

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Speaker 3: game that that hit maybe impacted him, but that was

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Speaker 3: going on all summer and you weren't getting hit in camp,

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Speaker 3: but he had. You heard rumblings when I was there,

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Speaker 3: and I was there early in camp.

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Speaker 4: You heard rumblings that he wasn't practicing. Well, he wasn't

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Speaker 4: winning fifty to fifty balls. He wasn't he was having drops.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the ball was on the ground a lot, Pete.

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Speaker 5: To your point, so.

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Speaker 4: Something clearly, And okay, I'll go back to May. Do

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Speaker 4: you remember in May he hurt his shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Remember in the mini camp when I got screened at

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Speaker 3: for tweeting it out?

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Speaker 4: Remember that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and you're anpetual line stepper. That's what

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Speaker 1: you do, Pete, you step up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the fans are behind me and the

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Speaker 3: crowd tweeting it out.

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Speaker 4: Why can't the reporters on the field. Okay that's a

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Speaker 4: whole other issue. But but I think something happened with

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Speaker 4: that day. Remember the shoulder got dinged up a little bit,

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Speaker 4: he went off. He hadn't been he hadn't been the

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Speaker 4: same guy since.

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Speaker 6: But Pete, we sat here and said in the preseason,

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Speaker 6: a just wait to the regular season, right, Like, I

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Speaker 6: wasn't worried about it. You weren't worried about it. I

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Speaker 6: don't think JP was worried.

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Speaker 5: About said when the lights come on, he's gonna.

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Speaker 6: Step up, and we saw that a rookie year as well,

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Speaker 6: kind of quiet in training camp, maybe didn't make all

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Speaker 6: these these splash plays and everything, but when the lights

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Speaker 6: See. I don't think he's see. I think this is

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Speaker 5: We had to go back to the basics.

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Speaker 6: Man, we had to go back to all right, throw

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Speaker 5: And that's maybe what it's gonna take here.

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Speaker 3: But at when you went back in the ring, you

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Speaker 4: You were afraid of the right hand.

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Speaker 6: Sure yeah, And you know what, if you were afraid.

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Speaker 4: But there's some fear of the hit with him right now?

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Speaker 4: You know, he's not fearful. You know, you went into

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Speaker 4: He's never been outgoing, Like you said, He's never had that.

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Speaker 3: From what I understand, he's a nice kid, but something's

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Speaker 1: That'd be a two way street. Yeah, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like dang it, like dang it.

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Speaker 4: It is early though, it's early, so I'm not gonna splinter.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot to learn from it.

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Speaker 1: No, no excuse at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta go win that freaking game.

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Speaker 1: YouTube JP, Shadwick, Pete Priss go to Austin Lane rehashing

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But the defense, the Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 4: A lot and it still didn't stop him.

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Speaker 3: And when they did get caught in man the man situations,

445
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Speaker 3: he took advantage of it.

446
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Speaker 4: I thought Jerry Jones had some rough goes of it there.

447
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Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell too.

448
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Speaker 3: Tyson Campbell as well, Darnell Savage came in for a

449
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Speaker 3: couple of plays. You might as well just let him

450
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Speaker 3: complete him right in front of him. Two right, there

451
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Speaker 3: was the one in the middle of the field. If

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, that was Giseki in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the field.

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Speaker 4: That was Savage. He was on the.

455
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Speaker 3: Field when they dropped Winger down as the extra like

456
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Speaker 3: they play him as like the buck linebacker. They bring

457
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Speaker 3: Savage out and play him and Murray deep you remember, Yeah,

458
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Speaker 3: And then he hit Kaseki in the middle of the

459
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Speaker 3: field for that big play down of the ten. And

460
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Speaker 3: there was another one on the sideline where Savage, oh

461
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Speaker 3: I know what it was on the long bubble screen

462
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Speaker 3: that Chase took in for a big play, quick throw

463
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Speaker 3: on the side. Savage took a terrible angle. He's got

464
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Speaker 3: to keep that at like a five yard play it

465
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Speaker 3: It was awful. So I'm not so sure it's a

466
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Speaker 3: smart thing to get him on the field.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I'm gonna say this much of what

468
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Speaker 5: I observed.

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Speaker 6: Anytime there's a backup quarterback in the game, there's gotta

470
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Speaker 6: be blood in the water, right, Like It's simple as that,

471
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Speaker 6: Like Joe Burrow, you know, and Joe Burrow, by the way,

472
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Speaker 6: was kind of seeing ghosts out there, like he was

473
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Speaker 6: kind of tucking the role and before they even got

474
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Speaker 6: to him, right, So it showed that the defensive line

475
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Speaker 6: was getting home and it was refreshing to see them

476
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Speaker 6: get home with sometimes only four guys. When you look

477
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Speaker 6: at Browning coming in and you look at where he misstepped,

478
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Speaker 6: and he threw some bad balls right like a backup

479
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Speaker 6: quarterback does. Out of those three interceptions when they sent four,

480
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Speaker 6: it was in an interception every single time. Like out

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Speaker 6: of the three interceptions, it was only a result to

482
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Speaker 6: a four man rush. Whether it was a game or

483
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Speaker 6: whatever in the middle, but it was only a four

484
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Speaker 6: man rush. So to me, that tells me everything. Where

485
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Speaker 6: why not just have the guys stay back a little bit?

486
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Speaker 6: Obviously Brownie wasn't seeing the field. The only time he

487
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Speaker 6: really did see the field was when you were blitzing

488
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Speaker 6: and sending more guys and you had a wide open

489
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Speaker 6: Jamar Chase or a wide open t Higgins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. I think in that scenario you

491
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Speaker 4: probably shouldn't have come as much as you did. And

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Speaker 4: I think they backed off a little bit after a while.

493
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Speaker 4: But you're right.

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Speaker 3: You're like, Walker got on a stunt, he got in

495
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Speaker 3: the face of Browning and that's one of the interceptions

496
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Speaker 3: came on that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you. I didn't think the plan

498
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Speaker 4: was as good as it could have been. Once the

499
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Speaker 4: backup quarterback in they played great. When Burrow was in there,

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Speaker 4: You're right, he was.

501
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Speaker 3: Spinning around looking for a lot of stuff that wasn't

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Speaker 3: even there at times.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, if you go across the board, I

504
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Speaker 4: thought Walker had a really good game. I thought Walker

505
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Speaker 4: was outstanding. Hines Wart, I mean heins Allen.

506
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Speaker 3: Was good, not great, you know, rushing the pair, he

507
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Speaker 3: had some pressure. I think he had five or six pressures.

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Speaker 3: The interior guys, they're the interior guys. I mean, that's

509
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Speaker 3: going to be a season long problem.

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Speaker 5: Well, they had Mason Smith active this week to try.

511
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Speaker 4: When he was in there, he was better than he

512
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Speaker 4: was the last time we saw him in Miami. I

513
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Speaker 4: can tell you that. And I think he needs to

514
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Speaker 4: be active going forward.

515
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Speaker 3: Maybe that sitting him down will be good for him.

516
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Speaker 3: You know, Lloyd played pretty good football, had a great intercept.

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Speaker 1: The interception was athletic. That's been his achilles heel has

518
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Speaker 1: been the coverage and being in the right place and

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Speaker 1: things flashing in front of his face and he's doesn't

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Speaker 1: know where to go. This is a perfect play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Bengals didn't run the ball. You know,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't like would they end up.

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Speaker 1: With forty eight yards yeah, rushing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so it wasn't an awful defensive performance. And

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Speaker 3: in fact, if you would give him the when the

526
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Speaker 3: pass went backwards, am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: Did that pass not go backwards?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they ruled that it was a

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Speaker 1: pass and then it got deflected or something that was

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Speaker 1: range to me, because it just went backwards the whole time.

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Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, well they said his arm was going

532
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Speaker 3: forward and then and the ball was hit and then

533
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Speaker 3: but it still he threw it backwards and then Devin

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Speaker 3: Lloyd wasn't down.

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Speaker 5: No, they ended up not being down. Looking at it

536
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Speaker 5: should have been a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That's the.

538
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Speaker 5: Championship game.

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Speaker 4: Jack was down all over again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is a great interception, by the way.

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Speaker 3: I almost couldn't believe he did that. He almost against

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Speaker 3: the pass.

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Speaker 4: Look, he's not.

544
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Speaker 3: Did his knee go down though, can tell he doesn't

545
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Speaker 3: come down on it when his butt's on the guy,

546
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Speaker 3: so he's not down that way.

547
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Speaker 4: But did his knee come down? He can't, really, I

548
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Speaker 4: don't know. He can't. None of these shots show it.

549
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: I watched it on tape. You can't tell.

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Speaker 6: But but here's the point of it, guys, whether his

551
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Speaker 6: knee was down or not, don't blow the whistle there.

552
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Speaker 6: Let it, let it play out. Run to the end zone,

553
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Speaker 6: and then do your due diligence, go back to the

554
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Speaker 6: booth and tell us whether it's a touchdown or not.

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Speaker 1: I could see maybe the side of his leg might

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Speaker 1: have been the ankle, maybe something like that, you know,

557
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Speaker 1: but that that might be about as close as it came,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 4: But they didn't get anything out of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is that, Okay, hey, you got it.

561
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Speaker 1: You're inside the tip fifteen yard line. Go score, Yeah,

562
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: you can go score. That's allowed.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, you know what happened the first play. Remember

564
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Speaker 4: they ran wide the etn.

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Speaker 3: Right and that play is there probably might have been

566
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Speaker 3: a touchdown if the right tackle makes his block.

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Speaker 4: The right tackles in la la land.

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Speaker 9: What.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what Sam watching because the guy slices through. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

570
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Speaker 4: he's watching.

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Speaker 6: Them because strange watching, but bypasses him here too because

572
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Speaker 6: he thinks he had them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this is the play where Cohen went

575
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Speaker 3: crazy right, and then you ran and then you ran

576
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Speaker 3: it right up the middle, which if you're running it

577
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Speaker 3: up the middle, aren't you saying I'm going to kick?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to burns clock right at that?

579
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Speaker 1: At that rate.

580
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 4: Four minutes to go in the game, You're not burning clock.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, what do you what else?

582
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Speaker 1: You want to leave him five minutes? Four minutes?

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Speaker 3: But then so we're gonna But also, I'll be honest

584
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Speaker 3: with you, in that scenario, I probably would have taken

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Speaker 3: the field goal.

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Speaker 4: I could see it both ways.

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Speaker 1: He was adamant about that, though Pete like he was

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Speaker 1: adamant that that was the one hundred percent, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it all.

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Speaker 3: It's not always it's not I mean for the analytics

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Speaker 3: that say, okay, But did the analytics say that Jake

592
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Speaker 3: Browning's in the game and he's gonna get the ball?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with that. I think there's different

595
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Speaker 3: scenarios play out.

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Speaker 4: You can have some feel to it. I can see

597
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Speaker 4: it both ways. I really can't.

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Speaker 5: Would you rather have it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, his argument I think was, Okay, let's have

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback from his own eight yard line down.

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Speaker 4: Okay. The other part of that, JP is I can

602
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Speaker 4: spin it this way.

603
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Speaker 3: Would you rather have a backup quarterback knowing he need

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Speaker 3: to go get a touchdown rather than a.

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Speaker 4: Field goal to tie it?

606
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Speaker 5: But they had also been gashing him in the kick

607
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: return game all day.

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Speaker 6: So then just kick to the end zone if you

609
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Speaker 6: have to. If you can't, in which I feel like

610
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 6: can't be well, they're at the forty yard line regardless.

611
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Speaker 6: I mean with Peter, Ryan was running pretty great, and

612
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Speaker 6: so that's why, al right.

613
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Speaker 4: Well work on your work on your kickoffs, the land

614
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 4: and the landing air.

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Speaker 6: See here's here's here's why I agree with Pete. Sorry JP,

616
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Speaker 6: but because yes, the analytics don't say everything of the game,

617
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Speaker 6: and momentum is a big part there. Right, So you

618
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Speaker 6: throw it to Brian Thomas Junior, he drops it. You

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Speaker 6: don't convert. Now, Cincinnati, even though they're kind of backed

620
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Speaker 6: up a little bit, they have a new sense of life,

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Speaker 6: right where As opposed, you can kick that field goal,

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Speaker 6: you go up by six Jake Browning just to an

623
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Speaker 6: interception to you, right so right now, confidence for him

624
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 6: isn't that high.

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Speaker 5: It's almost like you you gave him an injection.

626
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Speaker 6: Of life because you couldn't convert that fourth down as

627
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Speaker 6: opposed to going for the field goal, kicking it and

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Speaker 6: say all right, Jake Browning, you got whatever sixty yards

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Speaker 6: to try to compete us. Good luck to you.

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Speaker 3: And the mindset changes if you know you're defending a

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Speaker 3: touchdown rather than a field goal to go to all

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Speaker 3: over time.

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Speaker 4: It changes for the offense.

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Speaker 3: Knowing if they go get a field goal, they're going

635
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Speaker 3: to overtime, but they need it instead of rather than

636
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Speaker 3: need a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: You know, that doesn't play into the analytics at all.

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Speaker 1: The other part of it, too, is just execute the

639
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: fourth down play. We're not talking about this either, by

640
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: the way, which was a great.

641
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Speaker 3: We do got to talk about the play with Theammie

642
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Brown and and Trevor and Liam.

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Speaker 5: Co Yeah, let's get to that. We're gonna get that.

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Speaker 5: We're going to keep that real.

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Speaker 4: Actually we are going to keep that.

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Speaker 1: That's going to keep that real.

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Speaker 4: Brown by the way, drop the touchdown pass.

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Speaker 1: And yes he did. We'll get into that coming up

649
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: as well, and a little more on the offensive side running.

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Speaker 1: The running backs were used in the passing game. Pete

651
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Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown receptions.

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Speaker 4: It didn't run them though, no, they scored.

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Speaker 6: They run much though no they didn't.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into like the third and two play, there's

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Speaker 3: some should they have run the ball on third and

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Speaker 3: two A We'll.

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Speaker 5: Dig into that a little deeper when we return.

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Speaker 9: I know he's kind of got to you know, he's

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Speaker 9: got a couple of things going on. Risk, you know,

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Speaker 9: add an risk injury going into the game, and you know,

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Speaker 9: do that have a play a part in some of

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Speaker 9: the stuff. I've got to go, you know, go talk

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Speaker 9: to him. But you know, I think he's aware of

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Speaker 9: it and needs to, you know, have a better week

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Speaker 9: this week. I think he understands what's at stake. He

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Speaker 9: understands what's going on, and we got to go get

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Speaker 9: to the rood of it.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen today on a zoom call with the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Media Beat and welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: the Hundai Studios, Pete Prisk go down to the South

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Speaker 1: Florida to tenaxl Am, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. We

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Speaker 1: get back to the offensive track here risk issue for

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver, he said, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Put that out there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't on the injury board either.

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Speaker 3: So okay, so now you've opened yourself up the questions

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Speaker 3: about that. You've given him an excuse.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why. I don't know why Liam did that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to help help out the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: a little bit, I don't know, maybe take a little

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Speaker 1: pressure off, you know.

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Speaker 3: But that was the problem, by the way, I don't

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Speaker 3: think the risk was the problem, because he put it

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Speaker 3: up to prevent himself from getting hit.

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Speaker 5: So he hit the football and caused an interception with

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Speaker 5: it so well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like, what was the one arm one? I

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Speaker 4: couldn't figure that one out.

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Speaker 5: Was that the one in the end zone?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That was like he ducked too. It's like he put

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Speaker 5: his arm up that they kind of duck a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a weird I don't know, but I mean, listen,

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Speaker 6: I don't think because it's like Pete echoed now, like

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Speaker 6: with the wrist, it's not it's a non story. I

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Speaker 6: feel like, if you're not on the injury report, then

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Speaker 6: why we bringing it up? And I get maybe this

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Speaker 6: is like a way of trying to have your players back.

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Speaker 6: You can't put a band aid over this, right, Like,

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Speaker 6: you have to address the real issue or it's going

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Speaker 6: to be.

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Speaker 1: The problem all year.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be the problem till it's not the problem.

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Speaker 1: And that's just how I.

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Speaker 3: Don't understand what that is right there when you what

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Speaker 3: this play, I just don't get it. Okay, the right

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Speaker 3: arm goes up the left one like flamms.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't put two hands up.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, he just he does not want to

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Speaker 6: go across the middle. It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 4: And if you don't want to get hit, it's a problem.

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Speaker 3: But how do you I mean, I think there's I

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Speaker 3: think all summer there's been something going on with him.

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Speaker 4: He just doesn't look right. I don't just want to.

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Speaker 3: Say disinterested, but distracted. But yeah, and not urgency, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like he doesn't even when you

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Speaker 3: watch him run his route sometimes it doesn't look like

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Speaker 3: there's an urgency like there was last year.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know why, because you know we talked.

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Speaker 4: He's not a diva, so it's not that you know,

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Speaker 4: you would expect that from a diva. So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just I just kids got so much talent that

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Speaker 4: just get focused. Just you know, if somebody sit him

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Speaker 4: down and tell him and Austin, you know this. You play.

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Speaker 10: You only have so many earning years in that body

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Speaker 10: of yours, and so whatever is going on to take

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Speaker 10: you focused away from being the best receiver you can be,

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Speaker 10: deal with it, because whatever happens, it'll be after.

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Speaker 4: The seat, after your career is done, you can have.

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Speaker 4: You have many days to roll around in your money

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Speaker 4: and worry about your problems, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Just you have to find a way. Hey, these are

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Speaker 4: your These are your this is your time. Make the

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Speaker 4: most of it.

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Speaker 3: When you're on the practice field, make the most of it.

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Speaker 3: Because it carries over the fact that that Liam Cone

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Speaker 3: keeps saying.

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Speaker 4: He's got to have a good week, he's got to

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Speaker 4: have a good week. That tells you something's up with that.

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Speaker 3: And remember JP when we were in Miami, he kind

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Speaker 3: of called him, He kind of called him out in

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Speaker 3: the press conference in the press conference setting that day

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Speaker 3: and said, this is what we've been waiting to see.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 4: I think if I sat.

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Speaker 3: Him down and sat across from him, man the man,

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Speaker 3: I tell him, Look, Brian, we all have stuff whatever.

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Speaker 4: If something bothering you, whatever.

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Speaker 3: You're not the same kid you were a year ago,

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Speaker 3: and practice wise and anything, then how do we get

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Speaker 3: it out of it? And if you have something going on,

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Speaker 3: don't let it fester to the point where it's impacting

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Speaker 3: your your play.

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Speaker 4: Go out there and play and then deal with the

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Speaker 4: other stuff. See, I think you're not if there's something

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Speaker 4: bothering you? Is he you know? Does he not like guy?

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Speaker 4: Who knows? We don't know. Maybe he doesn't like the city,

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Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't like you. JP.

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Speaker 1: Possibly I mean maybe, I mean, you know what I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, there's always everybody has crap in their lives. Sure,

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Speaker 3: and you get up and you know, there's another word

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Speaker 3: for it. You get up in the day during the

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Speaker 3: day and you go, oh, like, you know, some some

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Speaker 3: kind of crap is going to happen. Whether it's major crap,

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Speaker 3: minor crap. Crap is going to happen, and it's just

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Speaker 3: how you deal with the crap, right. But it's like

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Speaker 3: somebody's driving to work.

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Speaker 4: And their tire pops and they get a flat tire.

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Speaker 4: That's crap.

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Speaker 3: You know, you spill your coffee on your lap as

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Speaker 3: you're going into the office, that's crap.

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Speaker 4: It's how you deal with the crap that you get

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Speaker 4: through it. If he's got crap going on in life,

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Speaker 4: he has to deal with it and become and.

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Speaker 3: Realize football is the bill payer. Football is your life.

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Speaker 4: Right now, and you got to figure that out.

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Speaker 6: You got to figure it out for sure. But it's

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Speaker 6: just it's not that easy. I feel like Pete to

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Speaker 6: just ask this guy, right, because if you talk about

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Speaker 6: the modern NFL player, everyone's out going, everyone's got their

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Speaker 6: own Twitch channel, and everyone's on X you know, tweeting

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Speaker 6: their opinions and everything. Brian Thomas Junior isn't that guy,

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Speaker 6: Like he's almost a throwback, if you will, of what

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Speaker 6: a modern NFL player should be, and we want to

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Speaker 6: talk about he's not a dvo. Like if something was

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Speaker 6: bothering Tyreek Hill, if something was bothering aj Brown, I

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Speaker 6: guarantee that coach would know about it the next day, right,

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Speaker 6: and then they would try to squash it. Brian Thomas

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Speaker 6: Junior isn't that guy. So that, to me, it's almost

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Speaker 6: on Trevor Lawrence. It's on Liam Cohen to literally take

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Speaker 6: this dude by the hand and say, all right, man,

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Speaker 6: what's going on? You know what can we do to

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Speaker 6: give you more confidence?

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Speaker 1: What do you need?

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Speaker 6: And if the answer isn't good enough, then keep pressing

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Speaker 6: him and pressing him. And it's not good enough, well

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Speaker 6: then you know what you got Parker Washington right now

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Speaker 6: playing at a very high level, who's just asking for

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Speaker 6: more reps. Like if that's the worst case scenario, then

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Speaker 6: so be it. But this has to just be more

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Speaker 6: than hey, man, you're not playing well, It's okay. We're

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Speaker 6: gonna keep a throwing the ball like we're past the

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Speaker 6: point on the bat. Now, yeah, that all went out

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Speaker 6: a window.

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Speaker 4: How long can you go on with this?

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Speaker 3: Like, Okay, when do you look at it and say, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe Parker Washington needs to get on the field.

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Speaker 6: If this is a problem in Houston, then I mean

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Speaker 6: what else can you do?

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Speaker 5: You can't let too many games slip away like this, Yes.

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Speaker 1: You can.

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Speaker 6: I give you to Houston.

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Speaker 1: I mean at some point that the guys in the

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Speaker 1: locker room will notice this too. Clearly they already have.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing.

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Speaker 4: But and he and Loaston. You watch a tape when

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Speaker 4: you put Parker Washington on. He plays hard, he plays fast,

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Speaker 4: he's tough, he goes against the football. I mean he ain't.

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Speaker 4: He's not skilled like bro He's not skilled like Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 4: We know that.

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Speaker 6: See this is why I think it's as simple as

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Speaker 6: him ran across the middle without being this this point

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Speaker 6: to death. Because if you watch Brian Thomas Junior in

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Speaker 6: the run game, he's still putting.

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Speaker 4: Forth that Brockett's blocking.

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Speaker 6: And listen, not every wide receiver is willing to block

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Speaker 6: because honestly, on the paycheck doesn't really matter. Like if

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Speaker 6: you're gonna negotiate a new contract, you think you're gonna gotiate. Oh, well,

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Speaker 6: I'm a good blocker. Check out this film. No, it's

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Speaker 6: it's a reception. It's targets, its touchdowns, like that's what

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Speaker 6: pays the bills. So you have a guy Brian Thomas Junior,

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Speaker 6: who's still willing to block, who's still wanting to put

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Speaker 6: that effort out there. That means to tell me that

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Speaker 6: it's not just an effort who he's tired of the team.

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Speaker 6: It shows that there's something in the psyche where he

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to run across the field.

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Speaker 4: And think about it, the best plays had all year.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't going across the middle or catching a pass,

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Speaker 4: was it. It was the reverse for a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he did.

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Speaker 4: You could see what you can It's not like you're

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Speaker 4: going in there looking at the ball gonna get blasted.

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Speaker 3: You can see what you're gonna get, where it's coming from,

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Speaker 3: and where you're gonna get a hit.

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Speaker 1: We continue on our offensive discussion and we get into

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Speaker 1: the running back room, newly revamped with the trade of

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Speaker 1: Tank bigsby after week one. So Bank, he's out of

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Speaker 1: here and he ain't coming back anytime soon.

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Speaker 5: ETN.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen for seventy one. That's five point one average two

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Speaker 1: and eight for forty two. Quinn Allen had a couple

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Speaker 1: of carries for thirteen yards, but only twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: carries from running backs in the game Pete and you know,

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen said today that there might have been a

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Speaker 1: few more, but maybe they were checked out of at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But they didn't run as much

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Speaker 1: as they did pass, certainly forty two attempts through the

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Speaker 1: year for Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: You know what, you know what here I like.

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Speaker 3: There's some concern about that, but there's something I like

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 4: They ran for over two hundred last week and they

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Speaker 4: were physical.

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Speaker 3: So you figure they're going to go to Cincinnati and

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Speaker 3: they're going to line up and play power football and

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Speaker 3: try and run for one point fifty. But rather than

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Speaker 3: do that, they went there and chucked the ball around

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Speaker 3: and did a nice job throwing the ball around and

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Speaker 3: didn't really have to run the ball because they moved

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Speaker 3: the football. But you go back to what you are

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Speaker 3: as a team and what your identity is going to be.

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Speaker 3: They want to be a physical run the ball and

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00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: you know, try and take shots off the run, and

885
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: they didn't run the ball.

886
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: So there's a couple of ways to look at it.

887
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: I kind of look at it.

888
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: I'm okay with the game plan. I thought it worked.

889
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: But I also in certain situations I would have a

890
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: third two. I probably would have run the ball. What

891
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: was that the forty seven? Is that where they were

892
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: at in that drive? Somewhere around there? Yeah, yeah, you

893
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: run the ball in that scenario. If you get two yards,

894
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 3: you got a first down, you start, you know, keep going.

895
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: If you don't get the first down, then you got

896
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: a decision to make.

897
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: And so what they do. They threw deep on that play,

898
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: didn't they? I think they did.

899
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: They throw to Thomas on that plate too, they did? Yes,

900
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: so And by the way, I'd love their running back room,

901
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: you know that. You know what I feel about Toot.

902
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: I think that kid's on the way to start him,

903
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: I really do.

904
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 4: And Etn has been a pros pro. I mean give

905
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 4: him credit. Everybody said he was going to be out,

906
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna get maybe he get traded. His job's not

907
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: going to be his, and he's put the work in

908
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: and he that's what he does. He puts his head

909
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: down and he goes to work. So I like the

910
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: and liquid out.

911
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: I tell you, what, did you see that video I

912
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: sat out on Twitter of him plasting Logan Wilson.

913
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: I mean he goes looking for work?

914
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, dude put his right in the ribs. It

915
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 5: was a beautiful block there.

916
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 6: You know, when we talk about this run game and

917
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 6: what your identity looks like, I get the whole goals

918
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 6: to try to get the whole offense involved, right feed

919
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior, get Travis Hunter involved, give you know,

920
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 6: get the stat boost for Trevor Lawrence. But so far

921
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 6: this running game, like did this running back room. They're

922
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 6: the most dependable thing on this team set aside of

923
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 6: offensive line in terms of run blocking as well, Like

924
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 6: this is the most dependable thing you have. And it's

925
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 6: funny because I have to talk to the JP during

926
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 6: the break here. When I started in the preseason of

927
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 6: like what I want to see more than anything, I

928
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 6: didn't care about wins and losses. I just wanted to

929
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 6: see Trevor Lawrence get elevated. I'm changing that too now

930
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 6: to I just want them to run the football and

931
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 6: I'll and almost make it secondary and passing, because if

932
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 6: you got to be the Tennessee Titans of a couple

933
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: of years ago with Derrick Henry so be it. But

934
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: that's how you win football games right there, Like if

935
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 6: you would have kept on pounding the rock, inflicting your

936
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 6: will and running down that clock, I think you would

937
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: have won that game easily in Cincinnati. But you want

938
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 6: to go toe to toe, and it was working until

939
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: it wasn't.

940
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think they have a home run hitter

941
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: in two and two. I mean, that's a home run hitter.

942
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: That's that's a guy that can turn you know, six

943
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 3: yard runs into forty five yard runs.

944
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: You know that that's special.

945
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: And so I think they need to kind of lean

946
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: on that a little bit more. And you're starting to

947
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: see him get more carries if you knew he would

948
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: once Bigsby was gone. But I think he's gonna get

949
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: more and more carries. He he's the best runner, let's

950
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: be real.

951
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 4: Et has done a nice job, but he doesn't have

952
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: the jump cut.

953
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: Ability and and and you know, and even it's a

954
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: little physical runner for a little for what's kind of

955
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: a little back. I mean, like you saw the two

956
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: passages he caught, put his foot in the ground and go.

957
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: I mean he made that it was a lineman who

958
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: dropped in the coat.

959
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: They got caught one of those two on that play. Yeah,

960
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: well designed play, by the way, I'm gonna give them.

961
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give Liam Conan. They said they showed screen

962
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: action to the other way and then came back and

963
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: threw that to him. Did you see that? Did you want?

964
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: Did you?

965
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 6: Of course? Because I mean they were trying to blitz

966
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 6: in everything, and it was it almost seemed like a checkdown.

967
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 6: But it was the right call at the right time,

968
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 6: trying to counter that Cincinnati blitz. And I don't think

969
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: if it was a line I mean there was a

970
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: lineman that dropped back into coverage and he was putting

971
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: ice skates. But even if it was a linebacker of safety,

972
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 6: I feel like Towton makes that play there in scores

973
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 6: like it goes to one down.

974
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: The sideline was also when he caught that ball out

975
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 4: of the backfield too. I mean, he's got juice. There's

976
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: juice there, and and that's an offense right now. Let's

977
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: be real. Without Bryan Thomas doing anything, and without Travis.

978
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: Hunter doing a whole heck of a lot on offense,

979
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: that's an offense without juice.

980
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: Would you agree.

981
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: You gotta have some juice.

982
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: You gotta have Juiceton has juice.

983
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: We're looking for that juice. Gotta have that juice.

984
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: Otherwise they play in a pole booth.

985
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: That's right, that's true. Let's come back in a moment

986
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: and take a look at the AFC South results, and

987
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: there is a game tonight in the division as well.

988
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,000
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00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: we'll have fanaticspan questions. We'll keep it real about the

994
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: relationship between the.

995
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 5: Head coach and the quarterback.

996
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,359
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Speaker 9: You know, I really don't believe in you know, putting

999
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 9: the game in the in the rest hands, you know, ultimately,

1000
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 9: like that's not there. They're not trying to have one

1001
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 9: team or the other, you know, win or lose.

1002
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: I don't believe that.

1003
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 9: But you know, we will send those in to get

1004
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 9: clear so that we can go coach Traravis on how

1005
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 9: to play that ball if that's the case, and same

1006
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 9: thing with just the understanding of the ruling on Trey

1007
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 9: Von and things like that. So it's more educational for

1008
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 9: us as coaches, staffed and players, but you definitely want

1009
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 9: to get clarity.

1010
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: William Cohen today on a zoom call with the Jaguars media,

1011
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: Welcome back, it is Jaguars Happy. Our final moments of

1012
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,880
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1014
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,040
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1015
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars host the Texans. They'll where those legendary prowler

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1017
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: If you don't like the way the Jaguars played this

1018
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: week or lost, you know what, pack the bank and

1019
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: help them win this Sunday. Do your part.

1020
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 5: Jaguar fans takes all of us. It takes a an army.

1021
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: It does. Here we are and let's take a look

1022
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: at the AFC South. Speaking of the Attackans, we'll get

1023
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: to them coming up. But the Rams over the Titans.

1024
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: Titans lose again. That's good for everybody, Pete.

1025
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 4: They were bad on Sunday.

1026
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: The defense, which had played well the first week against Denver,

1027
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: was terrible on Sunday, and cam Woard didn't play very well.

1028
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: He threw a touchdown pass if you go, I don't

1029
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: know if you guys saw that.

1030
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: He was flushed to the right and threw clearly across

1031
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: the field as a laser. But he's in the pocket

1032
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: and there's no real pressure and he somehow leaves it

1033
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: and ends up to the right.

1034
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: You know, those young quarterbacks will lead very won the

1035
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: very good game for the Titans.

1036
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1037
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 5: Good's that's positive. We like that on the Titans.

1038
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: They're not very good. They're not very good.

1039
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: No, and let's hope that stays that way for a

1040
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: long time. Colts over the Broncos. The Colts have not

1041
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: punted in two games. Is the first team in league

1042
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: history to have not punted in the first two games

1043
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: of a season. Austin, that's unbelievable.

1044
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. The cult story, I feel like, is a

1045
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 6: little unbelievable. What's going on there. I talked about it

1046
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 6: with you during the break I'm not sure if you're

1047
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 6: following it. They have been following carly Ers and the

1048
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 6: daughters taking over that team. She's got an ear piece

1049
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 6: on the sideline. She's listened to every single play call.

1050
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: She's she's listening to coaches calls. She's in the weight room,

1051
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 6: she's in the meeting room, like and they asked her

1052
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: why are you doing all this? And her I love

1053
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 6: the quote. She goes, I'm paying millions of dollars, millions

1054
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 6: of dollars to these people. I want to see where

1055
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 6: my money's going.

1056
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 4: Money, daddy's money.

1057
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 6: Oh what daddy, Well, Daddy's money, it's hers now. Hey,

1058
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 6: mark my words. Man, if they go like six and

1059
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 6: oh or seven and oh, Disney's gonna buy the rights

1060
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 6: in the movie because there's three sisters that are like

1061
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 6: running the organization right now. And if they go, you know,

1062
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: six and oh, Disney, give them a call.

1063
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing that not only did they not

1064
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 3: punt in two games, they scored on their first tenth

1065
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: possessions of the season.

1066
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

1067
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: I mean, Daniel Jones, I mean, think about that. But

1068
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: they were at home, right two games at home. Miami stinks.

1069
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: We know, that Denver might not be as good as

1070
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: we thought they were either.

1071
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: You know, they struggled with Tennessee last week, and Tennessee's

1072
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: not any good and their defense was just horrible on Sunday.

1073
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 4: So doesn't Indie play at Tennessee this week?

1074
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.

1075
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: So Tennessee's not any good, but it's still your first

1076
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: time out on the road.

1077
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: When you open at home two games, that's a major

1078
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: advantage for your team.

1079
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: Early.

1080
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: Look at Monday night football. It's game one of a

1081
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 5: double header.

1082
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at one to

1083
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: o head to Houston to face CJ. Stroud and the

1084
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Houston Texans at owen one. We'll preview the second game later.

1085
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: Who you got it?

1086
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 6: NRG Stadium, Austin. I like the Texans here at home.

1087
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I do too, Yeah, I do too.

1088
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 4: And you know the Bucks are the better team.

1089
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: But you're playing consecutive road games against the team playing

1090
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: its home opener on Monday night.

1091
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: That's a tough fast for any team. Wow, So I'm

1092
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 4: gonna take the Texans as well.

1093
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: All right, two Texans picks. We're back in a moment.

1094
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: It's hour too. A whole other hour of this program,

1095
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 1: we'll get We've got a long list. I think Pete

1096
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: has one. Anyway, we'll find out in a moment A

1097
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Saguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

1098
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 9: Well, that was a combination of data and gut where

1099
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 9: you're saying, okay, who's on the other side, other quarterback,

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Speaker 9: you're opposing quarterback on the road.

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Speaker 4: You know, to go up six there.

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Speaker 9: That We've watched that scenario play out too many times

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Speaker 9: in my game management meeting for me to not feel

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Speaker 9: one hundred percent confident with that decision. You watch so

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Speaker 9: many opportunities.

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Speaker 4: Where you do that.

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Speaker 9: You take, you go up six, you kick it off,

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Speaker 9: they get the ball at the plus thirty to thirty

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Speaker 9: five yard line, and now their mindset is touchdown, and

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Speaker 9: so you go down, and they go down and score,

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Speaker 9: and you lose by one point.

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Speaker 4: You guys would all be killing me today anyway.

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Speaker 9: So at the end of the day, I want to

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Speaker 9: be aggressive and give ourselves a chance to go close

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Speaker 9: games out on our terms.

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Speaker 1: Willam Cohen earlier today discussing that fourth down decision to

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Speaker 1: go for it.

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Speaker 5: And try to put the game away.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get it, and the Bengals drove down for

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Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown with eighteen seconds to play. And

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Speaker 1: welcome back. It's our two off Jaguars Happy Hour presented

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Speaker 1: by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game,

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Speaker 1: and during the game. We're on ten ten Xlamjaguars dot

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Speaker 1: Com and Jaguars YouTube JP.

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Speaker 5: Shadrick with you.

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Speaker 1: Here is what happened yesterday, Bengals over the Jaguars thirty

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Speaker 1: one to twenty seven. Jaguars seemed to be in control

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Speaker 1: a lot of the game. They never trailed until the

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Speaker 1: final touchdown, but had lack of execution in big moments

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Speaker 1: in the game, including plenty of drops from receivers in

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Speaker 1: key moments, certainly a touchdown. Brian Thomas Junior had issues

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Speaker 1: in the game, twelve targets, only four catches for the

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Speaker 1: former pro bowler, and the Jags defense couldn't get off

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Speaker 1: the field in the final drive on a fourth down play,

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Speaker 1: and then pass interference call on a second fourth down

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00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: play flipped the field and kept the drive going for

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Speaker 1: the Bengals at the end. Jake Browning entered the game

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Speaker 1: for the Bengals in relief of injured Joe Burrow, who

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00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: now is gonna have to miss about three months of

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Speaker 1: the season with a toe injury surgery upcoming for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback, but Browning led the Bengals to another win

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Speaker 1: over the Jaguars, the second time he's done that wearing

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00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: a Bengals uniform, and now the Jags left looking for

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00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: answers to how it all fell apart. Up next a

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00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: division rival in town, the Houston Texans, the only divisional

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Speaker 1: game for the Jags in the first nine weeks of

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Speaker 1: this season. JP Shadwick Austin Lane with me here in Jacksonville,

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00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco down in South Florida, and plenty to dissect

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Speaker 1: this game. And we've done it in the first hour,

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Speaker 1: and he can bring it over to hour number two. Pete.

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Speaker 5: And what do you think of.

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00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: Cohen's comments on the fourth down? We talked a little

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00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: bit about it earlier, but that was his view of

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00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: why he went for it.

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Speaker 4: You could hear see it both ways.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I could understand why he went for it.

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Speaker 3: I could also say that I wouldn't have gone for it.

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Speaker 3: And for my thinking being, I think the game changes

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00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: when the quarterback knows he has to go get a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody said, well, it's a move point. They

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Speaker 3: went and got a touchdown. But if he knows he

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Speaker 3: needs to go get one, you don't know how it's

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Speaker 3: going to be played. It'll be played differently, And so

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Speaker 3: I think I could see it both ways.

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00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: I would have gone for it. Actually, if you look

1166
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Speaker 4: at it from his standpoint, he called a play, the

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Speaker 4: play worked, and.

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Speaker 3: The wide receiver dropped the ball because if he catches that,

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Speaker 3: he falls for the first down. At least he might

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Speaker 3: get into the end zone and then the game's over.

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Speaker 3: So I could see it both ways, Austin.

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Speaker 6: So, Okay, I mean I I don't see it both ways.

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Speaker 6: I would have kicked the field goal because and he

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00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 6: said it, And I love how candid he is and

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00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 6: how transparent he is. It's really refreshing. You don't see

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00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 6: that a lot around the NFL. But if we're sitting

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Speaker 6: here on a Monday and say they go up six

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Speaker 6: and then Jake Browning drives them all the way down

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Speaker 6: the field scores a touchdown to win the game, I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna blame Liam Cole in that situation. I'm gonna

1181
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Speaker 6: blame the defense, right That's that's where my blame is

1182
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: gonna go. My initial thought wouldn't be well, Liam Cohen

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Speaker 6: then should have went for it, especially on what a

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Speaker 6: fourth and four, fourth and five.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like fourth inches. It was five for fourth

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Speaker 4: and five.

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Speaker 6: And my other argument's gonna be, you know, you said

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Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior's wrist was bothering him, and you said

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Speaker 6: that leading into the game. So if that's the case,

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Speaker 6: then and this was a design play, and yes, the

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00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 6: play was open, right, receivers gotta make the catch now

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Speaker 6: you can. It can be up for debate whether or

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Speaker 6: not he would have got it first down because he

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Speaker 6: was right by that line and there were safeties closing

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Speaker 6: in so that they might have actually stopped it.

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Speaker 4: Was Logan Wilson. It was Wilson, the linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Was okay, I'm sorry, the linebacker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think he would have made it.

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Speaker 6: Logan probably.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just think I think. I think Logan,

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Speaker 4: what do you do?

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Speaker 3: No, I was thinking about so I was talking about

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Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody on text just before he

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Speaker 3: did the.

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Speaker 4: Game, right, Logan, Ryan, Yeah, right, this is Austin Lane.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you have met.

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Speaker 4: I think he was. I think he would have made it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because Logan Wilson was.

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Speaker 4: Coming after him, but I think he would have ducked

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Speaker 4: underneath and made the first time. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he would have scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Okay, and that's fair, But once again, I think if

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Speaker 6: that's what we're talking about, where okay the rest, I mean,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna put it up to Brian Thomas Junior. Then

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Speaker 6: to go into that football game, and maybe this was

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Speaker 6: Liam Cohen going, hey, Brian, you know what, we understand

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Speaker 6: that maybe confidence isn't there right now. Let's give you

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Speaker 6: the ultimate confidence and let you win the football game.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that was a thought, but at the end of

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Speaker 6: the day, it didn't work out. And at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, if you would kick the field goal

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Speaker 6: go up six, I'm not blaming the head coach.

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Speaker 5: Then if they score a touchdown and go up by one,

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the other part of that equation too. You

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Speaker 4: called that draw to Allen on third down. You clearly

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Speaker 4: called that with the idea you were going to kick

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Speaker 4: the field goal, right, you don't think you're popping.

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah, Well maybe he didn't think they were gonna

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Speaker 1: pay yeah, and then they did pop it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they popped it for eight, you didn't pop it

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Speaker 4: for eleven.

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Speaker 1: To get within five yards, and maybe they had a

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Speaker 1: good five yard play which they showed.

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Speaker 4: See, I think he was playing for the field goal.

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Speaker 3: If he wasn't playing for the field goal, he probably

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Speaker 3: would have thrown it on third down, right, you would

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: think so. So he he he changed his mind, let's

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: put it that way, when he got to five yards,

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Speaker 3: which five yards isn't That's not easy in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's hard. That's a long and down in distant situations

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Speaker 4: what it is. So yeah, I would have kicked. There's

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Speaker 4: no doubt in my mind. I would have kicked.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about this, but the defense did still

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: give up the drive after that. Sure, short of they

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Speaker 1: had him on fourth down on.

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Speaker 4: Fourth and Travis Hunter makes him that's a bad no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the first fourth down they had on

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Speaker 1: fourth and three at their own fifteen is the swing

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Speaker 1: or thirteen? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That was That was when they dropped That was

1252
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: the play where they dropped out. Travon Walker and Travis

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Speaker 4: Hunter played man the man. I can't tell what he

1254
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: I watched that over and over again.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you watched it Austin on the tape,

1256
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: but I have I couldn't tell who defense was Travis

1257
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 3: Hunter playing.

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 4: I think he's a man. The man.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's got to cover that that flat and I don't

1260
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: think Dravon Walker could get out there.

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Speaker 6: I think there was a little disconnect there in terms

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Speaker 6: of that, Yeah, what they were supposed to do, because yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's that's a lot to ask defensive end to stop that.

1264
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Speaker 4: Right. By the way, that's something we haven't talked about

1265
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: at all. Travis Hunter played eighty one plays. You come

1266
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Speaker 4: away from the game thinking, wow, those are fifty great plays.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of a pedestrian day. I mean what

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00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he played a lot more in the second half.

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Speaker 3: I thought on defense, But what did he do when

1270
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: you really I thought the play I'll give credit for

1271
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: to play on the pass and Freerce that.

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Speaker 4: Was not Pa, That's a great play, right, yeah's turn

1273
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: your head, you make the play and he knew he

1274
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 4: hit the ball and he made it.

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Speaker 1: Play a Hunter on offense six targets, three catches, twenty

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Speaker 1: two yards. Then on defense he had a couple tackles

1277
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Speaker 1: in a pass defense.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: They got to figure out something here. You traded up

1280
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: to go get a player you're going to be featuring

1281
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball.

1282
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: You got to figure out something here.

1283
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 6: And listen, this is the thing too, where when you

1284
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 6: talk about defense, he's not going to be highlighted all

1285
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 6: the time.

1286
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: And that's okay.

1287
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 6: Like if he's shutting down his side of the field,

1288
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 6: if you're in Zoner, you're taking a guy man to man,

1289
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 6: they don't throw the ball. That's a positive rep then

1290
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Speaker 6: for Travis Hunter.

1291
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: But on the on the field on defense, don't you

1292
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 4: guys a great Hunter? Yes?

1293
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: Is he better?

1294
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1295
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean especially if Jones and Campbell are going to

1296
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: play like they played.

1297
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, it should be.

1298
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: I think he'll take Jones spot and then then you'll

1299
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: see maybe Jones will push Campbell, who knows. But he

1300
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: should be on the field full time as a corner.

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Speaker 3: But here's see the way he plays, he should be

1302
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: on the field.

1303
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Speaker 6: But here's the issue too with offense, the offensive snaps

1304
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 6: where three receptions for twenty two yards? Like you see

1305
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 6: what Ted McMillan's doing right now for Caroline. I'm not

1306
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 6: sure if you guys watched him yesterday, but yeah, he

1307
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 6: had another pretty great game because they're looking his way

1308
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 6: like he's he's the true one receiver. And I understand

1309
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Speaker 6: that Travis Hunter wasn't really brighter to be necessarily the

1310
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 6: one wide receiver because what we thought we had a

1311
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 6: guy in Brian Thomas Junior here.

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Speaker 5: But the draft caple you gave up to get him,

1313
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 5: he needs to get the ball.

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Speaker 3: See here's the other part of the problem. He only

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Speaker 3: plays the one position as a receiver. He doesn't you know,

1316
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 3: he doesn't play him.

1317
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: He doesn't know them all.

1318
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: I don't think and so because you know it's overloaded

1319
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: and so understandable, but don't you would you like to

1320
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: see him get down the field?

1321
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 4: Some have they tried to get him?

1322
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Maybe the one that was intercepted last week down the

1323
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: field he was deep on that play against Carolina, Yes, on.

1324
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: The over route when when he when it would have

1325
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: been a big playoff.

1326
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't remember many others.

1327
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 6: I mean, he had the one play where it was

1328
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 6: tipped and he didn't catch it, but that wasn't even

1329
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 6: designed to him.

1330
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna ask you guys this, this is a

1331
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: legitimate question. What's his signature offensive play right now?

1332
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: His signature offense No.

1333
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: Not not the not the I mean the style of play.

1334
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: What's what's what's the Travis Hunter go to.

1335
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a five yard stop route.

1336
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: No, it's a bubble screen screen inside tunnel screen to

1337
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: the left, to the right, to the left.

1338
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: I want to see him get get down the field.

1339
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: I want to see him and in fairness to them

1340
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 3: as a staff, if he seemed that and I don't

1341
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: know if you saw this, he seemed to have problems

1342
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: with guys putting their hands on him a little bit

1343
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: on Sunday, knocking them off his route a little bit

1344
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: like even the interception that Trevor threw where Walker Little

1345
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: played spinning top and Hendrickson went through him. Then that

1346
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: play he got beat up a little bit at the

1347
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and couldn't really get the depth he

1348
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: needed on that route if you go look at it.

1349
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 4: So did you notice that?

1350
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 6: I noticed that? But what also I noticed, like, I

1351
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 6: don't think in terms of the offense, in terms of

1352
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 6: the motions and everything, I don't think he's quite there

1353
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 6: at either in terms of how competent he feels, because

1354
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of those penalties and I

1355
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 6: don't think the shifts.

1356
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1357
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: I think he said it after the game that I

1358
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: was responsible for a couple of at least a couple

1359
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: of those.

1360
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: And you can see him getting lined up sometimes too,

1361
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: They line him up everything.

1362
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: It's just it's tough.

1363
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 6: But but we're talking about the pre snap stuff and

1364
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 6: you're not confident with that, then how you be confident

1365
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 6: trying to run her out? Like if if you're in

1366
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 6: your own head right now, trying to get lined up properly,

1367
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 6: trying to shift properly. And that's the conversation we're having

1368
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 6: right now, Well, then how's it going to work when

1369
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 6: the balls actually snapped?

1370
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: Like you're saying, I could, Yeah, but I could put

1371
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: them out wide once in a while and say, hey,

1372
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: run that nine out and say hello to everybody.

1373
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Because he hasn't run any

1374
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 4: he hasn't run a lot.

1375
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 3: So put him out there and get him in that

1376
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: Jets motion and reel them and run the nine off

1377
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: of that and see what see if anybody you know,

1378
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: because nobody would be it will be expecting it.

1379
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: I mean, he's such as you could see.

1380
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 3: His stop and start ability when he catches those quick throws.

1381
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: He's on the verge of popping out of those once

1382
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: in a while. But I also think you can get

1383
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: him down the field once in a while, like those

1384
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: that deep over against Carolina.

1385
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: I like that route, just under it.

1386
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 6: And the beauty with him too is that he's because

1387
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: there's some wide receivers that are just like fast twitch

1388
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 6: that you can tell it's going to be a deeper,

1389
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 6: and there's some wider.

1390
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Series are just smooth. Right.

1391
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins back in his prime was just a smooth

1392
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 6: route runner. Like I mean, he wasn't the fastest, but

1393
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 6: he was so just that he was great. He was

1394
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 6: he was fluid in his routes and everything. You can

1395
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 6: never tell who he's going to go. I feel like

1396
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter has some of that in him. So like,

1397
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 6: I agree, let him go deep. See what he can do.

1398
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: Back now you'd have to say the grade on that

1399
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: right now for him would be a C at best,

1400
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: right he plus.

1401
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 5: See what's your grading status?

1402
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: I mean why after two after two games, it's just

1403
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: I mean, look, and I think he's going to be

1404
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: a great player, don't get me wrong, but the way

1405
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: he's been used in the impact plays that they've gotten

1406
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 3: out of him, you expected more admit it, right, you

1407
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: expected more.

1408
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 6: But see, here's the issue you pete too, Like you

1409
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 6: can say in game number one, do we want to

1410
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 6: see a little more? But you won it, so it

1411
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 6: wasn't really an issue. You lose the Cincinnati Now all

1412
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,479
Speaker 6: of a sudden, the question is gonna always mark my words,

1413
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 6: every single game this team loses. One of the very

1414
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 6: first storyline is going to be, well, why wasn't Travis

1415
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 6: Hunter on this play? Why wasn't Travis Hunter on that play?

1416
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 3: Like that's see, I think that's what we're gonna deal

1417
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: with time full time corner and and spot him in

1418
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: for thirty five thirty you know.

1419
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 4: On offense.

1420
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: The problem with that is they thought they might be

1421
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: able to do that because they had a number one

1422
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver, and they.

1423
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: No longer have a number one wide receiver anymore.

1424
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 1: Not if he's playing like this. That's right, it's a problem.

1425
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: It's a trickle down for everybody else.

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01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 6: It's works.

1427
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: We're back in a moment. We're going to keep it

1428
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: real when we return. The rest of the show has

1429
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: been fake all the way to now. Starting now, we're

1430
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: going to keep it real. That's coming up after this

1431
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: time out. Also mister Chubby's food option for our production

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: staff tonight, Chicken parm sandwiches, the pretzel bites with melted

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01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: cheese yup and plane wings fried wings fantastic.

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 6: Did they pack like a to go box?

1435
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: What you want to go? Appreciate you end.

1436
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: Up with JP because I know you dove in already

1437
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: I did.

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: I had a half a chicken parm sandwich with the

1439
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: top one thrown out. I just had the chicken parm

1440
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: in the bottom bun. Then I had a couple of

1441
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: pretzel bites and I had one wing a drumming.

1442
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 4: I love it. He's watching his carbs, so he threw

1443
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: out the.

1444
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Pel just trying to be healthy. Guys, what do you want?

1445
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: I like an leave the pretzel bites out, just eat

1446
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: the chicken perfect, the.

1447
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 6: Chicken tender hard a moment.

1448
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 1: Keep it Real is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister

1449
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 9: It gets made to be a thing, obviously, you know

1451
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 9: in the in this rat poison world we live in.

1452
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 9: But uh, it's you know, it's the It's emotional. It's

1453
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 9: an emotional game. It's a competitive game. We're all competitive,

1454
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 9: we're all emotional. I can control mind better and uh,

1455
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 9: you know he was just telling me to like move on.

1456
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 9: You know, he wasn't telling me to go screw. He's

1457
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 9: just saying, dude, move on, you know, like come on guy.

1458
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 9: It's like it's uh, but yeah, to answer to answer

1459
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 9: your question, Ryan it. I was very pleased with the

1460
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 9: way he you know, he showed something, you know, he

1461
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 9: did got ticked off at times. He had great dialogue

1462
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 9: with his teammates on the sidelines. He made some huge

1463
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 9: throws for us and critical moments and if anything, I

1464
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 9: was extremely encouraged with with Trevor post game at.

1465
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: Coach Liam Cohen today.

1466
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: When you get rat boys in and go screw in

1467
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: one SoundBite, you gotta run it. That's the rules.

1468
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 5: Those are the rules.

1469
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jack Wart's happy our j P. Shatrick, Austin Lane,

1470
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco by the way, we got to coach with

1471
01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: the personality what's up, Pete?

1472
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: They love they love rat poison.

1473
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: That's seventeen. That's where that started.

1474
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: By the way, I've been rat poisoned the coaches my

1475
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: entire life. Then oh my god, he just called me

1476
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: beat rat poison.

1477
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 5: I'm okay, that's right.

1478
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 6: It never ends.

1479
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 4: Uh, that's that I love and Austin you said this earlier.

1480
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 4: He is so forthcoming.

1481
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: And I told somebody this the other day when you

1482
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: talk to him and JP you saw when I was

1483
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 3: talking to him in Miami.

1484
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: You learned stuff from him, which I appreciate that. I'd

1485
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: rather they correct me and learn.

1486
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: Something rather than then, you know, fly off at the

1487
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 3: smallest little thing. And I think he was in a

1488
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: situation today. Other coaches would have handled that a lot differently.

1489
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: You saw Brian Kelly, by the way, did you see Brian?

1490
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean, and I think he handled it very well,

1491
01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: and he's kind of got that.

1492
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: I think that's that's a good trade of his and

1493
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 4: he's very candid and I appreciate respect him.

1494
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: For that time now for keeping it real presented by nobody.

1495
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: Still it's available. It's available.

1496
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 4: Somebody in Jacksonville sponsor that damn segment.

1497
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Please, it's on the market. It's gone out there.

1498
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 4: You'll believe that, you will not regret that.

1499
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 5: Oh, we'll make it work. It's gonna be awesome.

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 9: You know.

1501
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: We're gonna pump that business up.

1502
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And this is about what Liam

1503
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: Cohen just talked about and the interaction late in the

1504
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I leam Cohen said after the game, that

1505
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: was just one throw. I was upset. It's what it is.

1506
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: That emotion is not personal ever, It's just me getting

1507
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: worked up. And then Trevor Lawrence said, the communication between

1508
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: the two is really high. Coach is really passionate. Love

1509
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: that about him. He'll get fired up, and it's brought

1510
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: more of that out of Trevor. There's been all this

1511
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: rat poison if you will, today or viral sensation of

1512
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: the video of this happening where you late in the

1513
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, the throat of the I mean brown is

1514
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: high and Liam Cohen is screaming out to the field

1515
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence waves him off.

1516
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 5: It's been overblown, right, Pete.

1517
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things about that. I think coaching

1518
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,479
Speaker 3: Trevor hard is a good thing. I don't think people

1519
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: have coached him hard in his career.

1520
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 4: I just don't. I don't think they coached him. Maybe

1521
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 4: you know, and I wasn't privy to what went on

1522
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: to Clemson, but you know, you come in as the

1523
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: golden boy, You're gonna take over as a starting quarterback

1524
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 4: right away. You get to the playoffs. I mean, I

1525
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: don't think he was coached that hard at Clemson, And

1526
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: maybe I'm wrong. He clearly wasn't coached hard by urban

1527
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: Meyer because he had no earthly idea what he was doing.

1528
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson, you know how I feel about that whole situation.

1529
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 4: I never thought it was a good situation to begin with.

1530
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure Doug Peterson ever truly embraced Trevor

1531
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: as that guy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, year or so of the

1533
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Speaker 1: whole second was in the league.

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Speaker 4: He had been around quarterbacks and what he wanted them

1535
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 4: to be like, and I don't think Trevor.

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01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: Was like that, That's right.

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Speaker 3: So it's good to see him coaching him the way

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01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: he is. Having said that, it kind of showed him

1539
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: up a little bit on the field, you know, you'll

1540
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Speaker 3: put it here.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think he needed to do that.

1542
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: I'm okay, you can get on him, but you know

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, I don't know I thought that was

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01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 4: And then the wave off way overblown. He's just he's

1545
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 4: just telling him, come on, let's go on the next play.

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Speaker 11: Having said all that, Danley Brown should have caught the

1547
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 11: damn ball, and what's the best case scenario for that

1548
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 11: he catches it and goes down for a three yard

1549
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 11: game or whatever it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a bad play.

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's not supposed to throw it there, but

1552
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 3: it was a bad play. I didn't see anybody else

1553
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 3: open on that play. So I like the fact that

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01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: Liam Cone coaches the hard. I don't necessarily love the theatrics.

1555
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 4: On the sideline, and I don't mind the waving them

1556
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: off because it's time to move on to the next play.

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 6: So, you know, when it comes to the theatrics on

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 6: the sidelines of holding players accountable, whether it's in a

1559
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 6: press conference or on the side of the field, I'm

1560
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 6: all for it because I think that's what Trevor Lawrence needs.

1561
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 6: I think every player on this team needs to be

1562
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 6: held accountable. Accountability is absolute, So I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Fan of that.

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Speaker 6: I honestly don't care about that exchange between Liam Cohen

1565
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 6: and Trevor Lawrence, and I get from the national perspective.

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 6: You know, RG three wants to make a big deal

1567
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: about and other people you know like and I get

1568
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 6: because and this is why I like Liam Cohan a lot,

1569
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 6: because he's he's not naive. There's some NFL coaches that

1570
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 6: don't know how the game works, and there's some who

1571
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 6: just get it and he understands it. Where I can

1572
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 6: take a ten second video, say there's troubling in Jacksonville,

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence, Liam Collin. Already there's game number two. Look

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01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 6: what they're doing. Okay, great, go go ahead and post

1575
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 6: it RG three and then go watch in another game,

1576
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 6: because that's all you're gonna do. You're not gonna watch

1577
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 6: the entire Jaguars game. Take the clip and post it,

1578
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 6: and then go on with your life and get your views,

1579
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 6: get your retweets, get your likes. Cool, fantastic. I remember six, seven,

1580
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 6: eight years ago, whenever it was. I remember Tom Brady cussing,

1581
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 6: slamming pads down on the side of the sideline, chewing

1582
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Speaker 6: out Josh McDaniel.

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 6: I remember Travis Kelcey chest bumping Andy Reevick. You wanted

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01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 6: to fight him after a game. We talked about that

1586
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 6: for what maybe three or four days, and then we

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 6: all forgot about it. It's the same thing here like

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 6: this is this is It's an absolute non issue. I mean,

1589
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 6: and I get people love the accessibility of seeing these

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 6: great camera views in the sidelines and everything. If you

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 6: would have stuck a camera with Joe Colin and the

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 6: defensive line back in twenty ten to twenty thirteen, the

1593
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 6: authorities would have been called, okay, like, this is football.

1594
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 6: This is how it is sometimes right, like if you

1595
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 6: can't handle an exchange of this and this in the

1596
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 6: game of football, then maybe football is not really for you.

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Speaker 4: And you're right. It was war. It was out there

1598
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 4: for all to see, which is which. I don't mind.

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01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 4: I love that kind of stuff. I just think sometimes

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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 4: you gotta be careful with that when you're the play

1601
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 4: caller working, worrying about the next play, the theatric's going.

1602
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:19,839
Speaker 1: On on the sideline.

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 4: But I'll say this.

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: Top Gauflin in ninety nine called out Mark Brunell in

1605
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: a press conference after he threw an end zone interception,

1606
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: then called him into the office the next day and

1607
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 3: read them the Riot Act.

1608
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: Sitting at his desk that was above everybody.

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: If you remember, they had to chop that desk down

1610
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: at one point because it was too high.

1611
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 4: When Jack del Rio moved.

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 3: In there, he chopped it down, and that ultimately became

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: the origin of my story on the rift between the

1614
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 3: coach and quarterback. Because the players all wanted that story out.

1615
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 3: That's how bad it got at that point. And so

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 3: I respect Liam for the way he handled it, rather

1617
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 3: than going to the podium and calling him out on

1618
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: the podium, you know what I mean.

1619
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 4: Had he gotten on the podium said well Trevor would

1620
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 4: just put the.

1621
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: Damn ball in his stomach once in a while, then

1622
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it would become an issue.

1623
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 4: It's a non issue the way it was handled.

1624
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: Down at least straight to the quarterback's face. It might

1625
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: have been between the lines, but he did it straight

1626
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: to his face, that's for sure. All right, let's keep

1627
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: it it real still out there.

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Speaker 4: Somebody sponsors, somebody sponsored.

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Speaker 1: Please you need to We got to pay Pete Salad.

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Speaker 1: That's why.

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Speaker 4: Well you also got we'll get.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, as you're working for free, so free.

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Speaker 9: Middle read route basically, and you know, there was nothing

1641
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 9: kind of holding the backside.

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01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 4: So it was a.

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 9: Play that we've hit a number of times in training

1644
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 9: camp in that Miami joint and a few other times,

1645
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 9: and I think he may have just led him a

1646
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 9: little bit too far a little so if we're gonna

1647
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 9: throw that ball, probably needed to be a little bit more,

1648
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 9: you know, on the body there. But you know, that's

1649
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 9: getting in sync together, getting the connection together. That's something

1650
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 9: that we all know has been a work in progress.

1651
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: Head coach Liam Cohen this afternoon discussing the tip ball

1652
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: interception off the hand of Brian Thomas Junior and Welcome

1653
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: back to Jaguars Happy Hour Second Hour presented by mister

1654
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Speaker 1: Mubby's Wings. Now, I thought it one more of those situations, yeah,

1655
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: between a player and a coach. Remember Jalen Ramsey and

1656
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: Doug Moron got into it on the sideline at one

1657
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: point here.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe that wasn't the first one out of

1659
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 6: my mind because that that was a big deal and

1660
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 6: that actually became something. Now, correct me if I'm wrong.

1661
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 6: Didn't it wasn't that the result wasn't there like a

1662
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 6: questionable call or something and was like he didn't review

1663
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 6: or yeah did Jalen asked him to throw the red

1664
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 6: flag and I don't think Doug or something that's right?

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01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's an interesting one between two guys

1667
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: that would were pains and the asses for a lot

1668
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 3: of people, and that build me.

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's be real. Yeah, I mean Doug more you know,

1670
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: by the.

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Speaker 6: Way, I'm bad, that's not bad. But I probably would

1672
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 6: have had Doug moroon by a ten eight round and

1673
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 6: then the first I think if if it would have

1674
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Speaker 6: kept yeah, yeah, dog Doug fight's dirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some guys that he can call, they can.

1676
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The the rout he was just talking about again, I

1678
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 3: I don't I think that he has the option to

1679
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 3: go up the field there, because that's what he did

1680
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: at Miami.

1681
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken by the way, Austin.

1682
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: Did you think because some some people and I wasn't

1683
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: sure when I watched it, do you think Tuton went

1684
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: the wrong way on that play.

1685
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 4: And got away with it or is that designed that way?

1686
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 6: I'd love to know thee Well, this is this is

1687
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 6: the PFF narrative, right, because if I see it on film.

1688
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 6: I can be like, well, that doesn't make much sense,

1689
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 6: but if that was the play call, then give him

1690
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 6: a plus.

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 4: So I guess what the action is going the other

1692
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 4: way in a screen to the right. Tutan went to

1693
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Speaker 4: the left.

1694
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 3: And he's a rookie, so you would expect he's gonna

1695
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 3: have problems at times going the right way.

1696
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Speaker 4: And I don't know. It didn't look like it was

1697
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 4: designed that way. But if it was, it's genius because

1698
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: you get him one on one in that situation with

1699
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 4: that guy. Yeah, but I'm not sure it was designed

1700
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 4: now because everybody, it's a screen. It's clearly the action

1701
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,560
Speaker 4: is a screen to the right, and he went to

1702
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 4: the left. Yeah, so I would love that. I wish,

1703
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 4: I wish I could I ask Liam right now if

1704
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 4: that was designed that way, because it doesn't look like

1705
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 4: it was. If it was, I've never seen it designed

1706
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 4: that way.

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 6: Well, and make sure Liam Cohen tells PFF acts. I'm

1708
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 6: sure that those guys are up all night wondering if

1709
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 6: that was a positive player negative play for him, just

1710
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 6: because you don't know what the play call is.

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01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 3: Hey, j P real quick. The other part of it

1712
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,919
Speaker 3: is we haven't touched on this at all. The offensive

1713
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: line for the most part was pretty darn good again

1714
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 3: for the second week in a row.

1715
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they didn't go for obviously two hundred

1716
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: on the ground. But the quarterback, I mean, for the

1717
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: most part.

1718
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: Is except for Walker Little yeah yeah. And then the

1719
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 4: one sack on the right.

1720
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 3: Side when Hendrickson went over to the right side beat

1721
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: toward the end, yeah, Harrison didn't they Yeah, And they.

1722
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: Seemed to have a you know, obviously the game plan

1723
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: was based around Hendrickson. I mean that's oh yeah, you

1724
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: gotta start with that guy.

1725
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 3: But but Cleveland two weeks in a row, really good.

1726
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 3: Hainsey two weeks in a row, really good. McCarry wasn't

1727
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Speaker 3: as good this week as he was last week. Harrison

1728
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 3: was good again. That's two weeks in a row for him,

1729
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 3: that's good. And Walker Little good in the run game, not.

1730
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 4: So good in pass protection a little bit. Had some

1731
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: problems there. He gives that that edge, you know, he

1732
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 4: lets that edge go.

1733
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1734
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Speaker 5: Like the the interception, yea pressure.

1735
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: Under Yeah, I don't know.

1736
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 3: Again, the way Travis ran that route, he should have

1737
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: run it to the back back corner of the pylon.

1738
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 4: If he because even if he's got a clean pocket.

1739
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 4: The way he ran that route, I'm not sure he's

1740
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 4: going to complete that pass anyways.

1741
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 3: He kind of got jammed up and then he tried that,

1742
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, that route should be run to

1743
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 3: the back of the end zone once he gets out there,

1744
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: and he.

1745
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 4: Kind of flattened it out a little bit and let

1746
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 4: the defender be able to play him well. And that's

1747
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: why the ball is in here certainly.

1748
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the balls just got to go back there anyway.

1749
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you throw up to that back if you're

1750
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: going to miss it, miss it high and wide.

1751
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1752
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got hit on that.

1753
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 3: So and there's a narrative by the way that he

1754
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 3: didn't Trevor Larris didn't play that well.

1755
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 4: I don't buy that good.

1756
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for the drops, he'd be,

1757
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, four touchdowns and the pick and thirty completions.

1758
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, he does have to realize sometimes when he's

1759
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: three yards over a lot of scrimmage.

1760
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: For a special old the boat was back there. Hey,

1761
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,320
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1762
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,160
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1763
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,280
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01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,360
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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,800
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1766
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: Audiophile asking did the Jags do a grounding exercise before

1767
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: the game? The rest didn't?

1768
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 4: Wow, No, they did not. They had a rough go

1769
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, and I never want to I'm not

1770
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 4: one to ever blame the officials. I think in the

1771
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 4: end it all evens out eventually, but you know, they

1772
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 4: had a couple of questionable calls.

1773
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 6: The p I was terrible, I thought, I think, I

1774
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 6: mean overall, and let's kind of break down the question

1775
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 6: like did they come did it look ready to play?

1776
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 6: And I think for the most part in a hostile environment,

1777
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 6: which you know, Zach Taylor's asking them to get there

1778
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 6: early and everything, Uh, make it a pep rally Orange jerseys,

1779
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 6: Like I think if Joe Burrow stays in the game

1780
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 6: might have even been different, right because Burrow did not

1781
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 6: look like himself. He'll win the game, Yeah, exactly and

1782
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 6: went big. And I think that the biggest point to

1783
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 6: me to prove like were you really ready? Was you

1784
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 6: know whatever the five penalties in a row that was

1785
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 6: or a six pounds whatever.

1786
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: Oh, in that one.

1787
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 5: Stretch they had two drives, they had five illegal shifts.

1788
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 6: That can't happen. Yeah, like that that that cannot happen.

1789
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 6: Then maybe just stop shifting. Maybe just go out there

1790
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 6: and and just take you know, four an automatic instead

1791
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 6: of shifting so much.

1792
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,799
Speaker 3: I still want the one uh illegal motion was because

1793
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: Dianmi Brown turned up too soon.

1794
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 4: You know, just little things. The timing is is not right.

1795
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: Of course that question went back to last week's grounding

1796
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: question at halftime and the weather delay and all that.

1797
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: Of course, all right at Loomers eighty seven this week,

1798
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: the d line looked, I like to get pressure up

1799
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,480
Speaker 1: the middle for a change. Is their progress?

1800
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: Uh stunts and you know loops, you know that, Austin,

1801
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: I don't think that any I really don't think anybody on.

1802
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 4: The inside was winning consistently. Well.

1803
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 6: I think Eric Armistead on the they ran. I think

1804
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 6: it was a text game. Now grand the guard didn't

1805
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 6: come with them or anything like that. I mean made

1806
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 6: it pretty easy an Armstead. But a quarterback sacks a

1807
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 6: quarterback sack. At the end of the day, I'm mean

1808
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get Erick Armistead a little props there for

1809
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 6: that quarterback sack because I was a big.

1810
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 4: And he got part last week to a little bit

1811
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 4: in the second half.

1812
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep.

1813
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 5: Okay, So is there progress? Sounds like there is.

1814
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1815
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 3: I mean they still like to have a guy who

1816
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 3: can put his hand on the ground and can push

1817
01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: the pocket from the inside consistely.

1818
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 5: They don't have that, but they're doing what they can

1819
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 5: right now.

1820
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 4: They're doing don't have that either.

1821
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

1822
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: And you know what, and I think it's a breath

1823
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 6: of pressure because when they did rush for they got

1824
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 6: home a couple of times, whether it was creating turnovers

1825
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 6: the one to Dewey that I think Trayvon Walker got

1826
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 6: his hand. Like they're they're generating pressure with just four guys,

1827
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 6: which is kind of a rarity to see the past

1828
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 6: couple years. It seems like, so there is progress, and

1829
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 6: I think the middle has something to do with it.

1830
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 3: That wasn't a good That's not a good offensive line

1831
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: they played though, Yeah, you know that the week before

1832
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 3: that line was awful.

1833
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 6: Are the Texans at.

1834
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 4: Terrible?

1835
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: They better dominate next week? Yeah? Better? Duvall knows shoes

1836
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: asking does Brian Thomas Julior fit what this regime is

1837
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: trying to do.

1838
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 5: He doesn't seem to be physical.

1839
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he's physical in the run game, like

1840
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 4: we talked to it.

1841
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: He'll block, you know, a lot of guys will will

1842
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 3: either wide receiver at least try.

1843
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 4: My wide receivers don't even try. Physical to me means

1844
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 4: you got to be able to give up your body

1845
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 4: over the middle of the field. And he's not willing

1846
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: to do that right now. So it's a legitimate question.

1847
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: They strive mental and physical toughness to be a Jaguar

1848
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: in a way they want to be in this organization. No,

1849
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: I hear you.

1850
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 6: Is he physical enough like to what Pete said, I

1851
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 6: think your ability And I forget what run it was.

1852
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 6: There was a longer run I think it was. It

1853
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 6: would have been traves etn he had he kind of

1854
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 6: cut it up to the left side of the field.

1855
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,600
Speaker 6: I think that was the play that I noticed the

1856
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 6: most with Brian Thomas Junior did a great job of

1857
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 6: sticking out his block and actually pushing his guy almost

1858
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 6: towards the sideline. Not every wide receiver is capable of

1859
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 6: doing that or willing to do that, So I don't

1860
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 6: think it's a physicality problem, Like, yeah, he's obviously it's

1861
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 6: afraid to get hit, But I don't think that's physical.

1862
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 6: I think that's just more mental right now, and until

1863
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 6: that gets solved, we'll have the more questions with it.

1864
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1865
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 3: Look, and also one quick thing, when people say soft,

1866
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,879
Speaker 3: they mean soft as it relates to the game of football,

1867
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 3: not as it relates to the game of life.

1868
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 4: Because let's be real, everybody in the National Football League

1869
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 4: is it? Is it soft? They're tough guys, you know,

1870
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 4: they're there for a reason.

1871
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 3: But there's different ways to be you know, like somebody's

1872
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: really tough, somebody's soft.

1873
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: Somebody has to be the least toughest guy in the league, right.

1874
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 5: Relative to the tough guy. Yeah, sure, I mean it

1875
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 5: has to be that.

1876
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 3: It's just like in your fight game, somebody's soft and

1877
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: somebody's tough. They're all tough, but somebody softer than the

1878
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 3: other guy.

1879
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the way it is.

1880
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 6: But the difference is Pete that I'm never going to

1881
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 6: call anybody soft, whether it's in a cage or on

1882
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 6: the football field, because I know what it takes to

1883
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 6: get up every single Sunday. I know what it takes

1884
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 6: to get your body on the line. And I get

1885
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 6: you make a lot of money to do so. But

1886
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 6: at the same time, I think anybody that's willing to

1887
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 6: put the helmet on and sacrifice their body, I think

1888
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 6: you're at least a little bit tough in my book.

1889
01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 6: So there's there's well it's all relative, right, It's all relative,

1890
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 6: it's all comparative. And and I can say with Brian

1891
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 6: Thomas Junior, like, maybe there's like a glitch right now

1892
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 6: you want to call it or something wrong with this mentality.

1893
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 6: But mark my words, I'm never gonna call anybody soft

1894
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 6: in this game. Just it's just what I believe. But hey,

1895
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 6: yoused to you.

1896
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 4: I'll call team soft.

1897
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll call team soft all day, but when it

1898
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 6: comes it's funny, I'll call it team soft, but not

1899
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 6: but call the guys on it.

1900
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna go name by name. I'm a hypocrite.

1901
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: What can I say?

1902
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 3: And by the way, there are guy like he's playing

1903
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: he might not be soft, but he's playing soft right now,

1904
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 3: let's be we can say that.

1905
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, moving along at BCB couch, should they be playing

1906
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: Hunter at corner and Washington on the slot exclusively? Moving

1907
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: forward and pause the two way player experiment for.

1908
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 3: Now, I personally think you should be a full time

1909
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 3: corner and spot him in and wide receiver for thirty snaps.

1910
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 4: But again, I go back to what I said earlier.

1911
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 4: If that's the case, you think you'd ad a number

1912
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 4: one wide receiver, you don't.

1913
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So can they limit his snass on offense

1914
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 3: with the way they're going with the other wide receiver?

1915
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: I mean not right now? You need you need people

1916
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: that can play and produce. He's the only one catching

1917
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: the ball right now.

1918
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, Washington, if this was going into the game number

1919
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 6: one against Carolina, I would have told you, Okay, if

1920
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 6: what did the Jaguars need more Travis Hunter on defense

1921
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 6: spelling Jerry and Jones or Travis Hunter on offense competing

1922
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 6: with Parker Washington, I would have told you, Okay, we'll

1923
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 6: go spell Jerion Jones and let Parker Washington step up.

1924
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 6: Now we fast forward two games and we see Brian

1925
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 6: Thomas Junior doing his stuff, and it's like, you need

1926
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 6: this guy on both sides the ball. You know. I

1927
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 6: think if Brian Thomas Junior was more dependable right now

1928
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 6: you could trust him, then Yeah, by all means, have

1929
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 6: Travis Hunter, get a majority of the of the reps

1930
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 6: on defense and use him sparingly, because by the way,

1931
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 6: you're running the football pretty well, So why even worry

1932
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 6: about the pass game right I'm worried about the defense

1933
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 6: right now surrendering big explosive plays to wide receivers. So

1934
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 6: I would err on the side of Childick Hunter playing defense.

1935
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 6: But until you find a chew number one receiver that's

1936
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 6: up for that challenge, you can't do that.

1937
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 4: Well.

1938
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 3: That's like if he's not on the field offensively, and

1939
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 3: you come to your defensive team and you're getting ready

1940
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 3: to like if you're next week, you're you're Stingley and

1941
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 3: Lasser and Petrian that group and you're defending the shell

1942
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 3: of himself, Brian Thomas, Parker Washington, and Diamie Brown.

1943
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 4: Are you where are you scared? There? Are you scared?

1944
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 4: You're not not?

1945
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 3: Really, No, unless Brian Thomas suddenly becomes Brian Thomas again,

1946
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you might be scared again

1947
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 3: of that group.

1948
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 4: We Parker Washington is a good little.

1949
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 3: Player, don't get me wrong, But I'm not disnamed because

1950
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 3: I think he's made himself into a heck of a player.

1951
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 4: But he ain't scaring you. If he's one of the

1952
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 4: top two.

1953
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 6: Pete, do you think he's earned the rights to get

1954
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 6: a lot more reps here, because in terms of offense,

1955
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 6: I think you have the run, I think you have

1956
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 6: Breton Strange, and I think there's Parker Washington has the

1957
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 6: most dependable pieces right now on this team.

1958
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 4: If he's getting more reps, does that mean that Brian

1959
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 4: Thomas is sitting down?

1960
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I think someone's got to come out every

1961
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 6: once in a while. I'm not saying it's maybe it's

1962
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 6: Tommy Brown, maybe it's Hunter playing defense, but I think

1963
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 6: it comes to a point where a player has kind

1964
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 6: of elevated their game a little bit. I think Parker

1965
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 6: Washington has where he's been deed.

1966
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: I would play, I would play, and by the way

1967
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: you preach, the best players will play well. If he's

1968
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 3: one of the best players and he's doing his job

1969
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: and he's working at it and he plays hard all

1970
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 3: the time, then play them.

1971
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Final question that B M.

1972
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 5: Sizzle.

1973
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: Should fans feel optimistic or worried about this team moving forward?

1974
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 6: Boston optimistic just because even though it was a loss,

1975
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 6: a game that you should have won, and we've seen

1976
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 6: that how many times before, where a starting quarterback goes out,

1977
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 6: you're supposed to win the ball game and you don't.

1978
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 6: I get all that, but this looks different now. The

1979
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 6: way they can run the football, where guys aren't getting

1980
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 6: hit two yards in the backfield just trying to get

1981
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 6: one or two yards here there, The way that this

1982
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 6: offensive line can actually inflict their will, that's different, right.

1983
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 6: I think Liam Cohen is different. I think having that

1984
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 6: accountability at every position is different. So I think fan

1985
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 6: should be more optimistic than worried right.

1986
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 4: Now, no question about it. Much more optimistic. You should

1987
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 4: be two to zero.

1988
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 3: Of course you should be optimistic. There's no reason they

1989
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 3: lost that game on Sunday, and your offensive line is

1990
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 3: blocking and playing well, and you're doing some good things

1991
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 3: offensively running the ball one week, throwing at the next.

1992
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 4: Of course you should be optimistic. It doesn't mean you're

1993
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: going to the playoffs.

1994
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 3: I will say this, That game yesterday reminded me a

1995
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 3: game in ninety six when Jacksonville went to play the

1996
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 3: Rams in Saint Louis and Jacksonville had like five hundred

1997
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 3: yards of offense and somehow lost the game, and it

1998
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 3: was all this crazy stuff happened, and then they went

1999
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 3: on a winning streak in ninety six.

2000
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 4: At some point down the road of teams can build

2001
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 4: on games like that.

2002
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 3: I think that's why Liam Cohen and kudos to the

2003
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: Jaguars video crew for sending that out. Most teams would

2004
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: never have sent out a coach talking to his team.

2005
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 4: After a loss.

2006
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah yeah, in the Lost Room.

2007
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 1: I did that on social It.

2008
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 3: Was fantastic, and so I think his message was get

2009
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 3: the hell over this and build off of it, and

2010
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 3: I think that was smart.

2011
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: You have it, fanatics, fan questions are in. Thank you

2012
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: for the submissions. Today we're back in a moment with

2013
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: a look around the National Football League after a Jaguars

2014
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 1: loss in Cincinnati in Week number two Bengals thirty one,

2015
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: Jaguars twenty seven and Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Mister

2016
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: Chubby's Wings. Play fake looking as Trevor looking looking fires

2017
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: from the back of the ends on that ball is

2018
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: going to be God touchdown, Beamy Brown in the dock

2019
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: in the end zone, a nine.

2020
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 3: Yard touchdown pass and Jacksonville strikes first.

2021
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Then Cincinnata. It's to call the game with Frank Frazie

2022
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,800
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2023
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,640
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2024
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,280
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2025
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,240
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2026
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:26,800
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2027
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,400
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2028
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,920
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2029
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: the available inventory and go Jags. Let's go around the

2030
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: National Football League and hit the games from this weekend Thursday.

2031
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 1: Packers over the Commanders twenty seven to eighteen. The Ravens

2032
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:47,839
Speaker 1: blasted the Browns yesterday forty one seventeen. This Cowboys Giants

2033
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: game was incredible. Aubrey hits a sixty four yard field

2034
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: goal with the final gunner regulation to send it to overtime,

2035
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: and then hits the game winning field goal with no

2036
01:29:58,920 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: time left in overtime.

2037
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer, what the hell are you doing running at draw

2038
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 3: play on the play before the sixty four yard field goal?

2039
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 4: Are we going to settle for sixty four yard field goal? Now?

2040
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 6: What we're doing?

2041
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 4: He made it, He got away with it. But that terrible, terrible,

2042
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 4: terrible decision.

2043
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a wild one. Lions made a point

2044
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: and beat the Bears fifty two to twenty one Austin.

2045
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 6: With all the respect to Ben Johnson, right, Like Ben

2046
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 6: Johnson comes back home to Detroit, Dan Campbell goes cool,

2047
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 6: check this out. Here's a fifty burger for you.

2048
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 3: By the way, do you remember way back in January,

2049
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 3: February March who everybody in Jacksonville wanted to be the

2050
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 3: head coach, don't you?

2051
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Ben Johnson? Right?

2052
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: Press?

2053
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 5: Taylors is what OC or QB coach?

2054
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, yeah, you imagine Johnson?

2055
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 5: Can you imagine I press would have stuck around.

2056
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 6: It's press calling the plays there in Chicago.

2057
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now yeah, no, I was not making sure

2058
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: just yeah, it would have been an interesting.

2059
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 4: Did press call the plays in Jacksonville? Oh? Nobody ever

2060
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 4: knew you?

2061
01:30:58,680 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2062
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 6: That one of the greatest mysteries of this city.

2063
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: The way the wind was blowing. Yeah. Patriots over the

2064
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 1: Dolphins thirty three, twenty seven. Niners beat Saints twenty six

2065
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: twenty one, the Bills by twenty over the Jets thirty

2066
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: to ten. Stop me if there's any interest in these Pete.

2067
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 4: No, No, the Bills are. I think they'll go to

2068
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: the super Bowl. They're one of the best teams in

2069
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 4: the league.

2070
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 6: But also I think a storyline of that those Justin

2071
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 6: Field's coming back down to reality was like the fantasy

2072
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 6: Darling Week one for the New York Jets and Justin

2073
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 6: Fields taking on the Steelers and now all of a sudden,

2074
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 6: he looks like if how to throw a football?

2075
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 4: But Austin, you know this. The Jets identity has always

2076
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 4: been defense.

2077
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: They hire Aaron Glenn whose identity is defense, and they're

2078
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 3: worse on defense.

2079
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 1: How that work? Yeah, Seahawks over the Steelers thirty one seventeen.

2080
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: The Cardinals beat the Panthers twenty seven to twenty two,

2081
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Eagles over the Chiefs twenty to seventeen.

2082
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 5: What's going on in Kansas City?

2083
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey Man.

2084
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta catch that ball.

2085
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 6: Gott to catch it.

2086
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 4: And here's the other part of that. For the Chiefs

2087
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 4: are one two. They don't have worthy, they don't have rice,

2088
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 4: they don't stretch the field.

2089
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 3: And they went to Brazil and played a really good

2090
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 3: team in the Chargers, and then came home and played

2091
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champs in your own place and held

2092
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 3: them to what's.

2093
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 4: Twenty points you're supposed to win. I think they had

2094
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 4: like two hundred something yards of offense the Eagles.

2095
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 6: They should win that game, I think yeah. And right now,

2096
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes has nobody to throw to. I mean, he's

2097
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 6: looking more like you know, Josh Allen running for his

2098
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 6: life for like Lamar Jackson. I mean, I know I

2099
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 6: have fantasy and he's getting fantasy points, but I'd rather

2100
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 6: have it with his arm and not his legs so

2101
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 6: much like of course the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, So they're

2102
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 6: gonna have to figure something out, man, because if he's

2103
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 6: running for his life the entire season, it's gonna come

2104
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 6: back to bite him.

2105
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Falcons went into Minnesota last night and got a victory

2106
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: twenty two to six, and Beshn Robinson Atlanta Falcons. He's

2107
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: talented by the way.

2108
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 3: I guess we could slow down the Hall of Fame

2109
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 3: bust for JJ McCarthy after week one, right, I mean,

2110
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 3: what are we doing in this league? The kid was

2111
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 3: terrible for three quarters as a throw to the middle

2112
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 3: of field that was nice to Jefferson gets a boot

2113
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: in the run game and run a play a design

2114
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 3: run for a touchdown and throws a one on one

2115
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 3: to the back where he er threw it, and all

2116
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 3: of a sudden, he's going to Canton.

2117
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 4: And then we show him up on Sunday and he

2118
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: looked like J. J. McCarthy again, and now he's hurt.

2119
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: Well it's hurt. Yeah, he's hurt.

2120
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 4: Miss he's gonna miss Sunday. Wow.

2121
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 6: I think I uh ah entered Carson Wentz right for

2122
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 6: not mistake. I think is the backup there in Minnesota, and.

2123
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 4: Wentz will be the backup, will be the starting quarterback.

2124
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 6: You know it's well because the whole narrative and I

2125
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 6: really was drinking this kool aid as well as you

2126
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 6: know it's it's O'Connell's offense. Doesn't matter who the quarterback is,

2127
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 6: you can get the best out of him. Well, Sam

2128
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 6: Donald's still playing at a really high level in Seattle.

2129
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 6: Looks like when he played the Steelers, and you see

2130
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,560
Speaker 6: what McCarthy is doing, So maybe there was something to

2131
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 6: be said for him. Maybe Sam Donald isn't that bad

2132
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 6: of a quarterback, and maybe they're gonna regret letting him go.

2133
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: There you have it. I'll look around the National Football

2134
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 1: League two for the price so one on Monday Night

2135
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Football Tonight, we preview the Bucks Texans matchup earlier, but

2136
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: tonight the back end of the doubleheader takes just to

2137
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: the AFC Wes, Justin Herbert and Pete's favorite team, The

2138
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: LA Chargers head to Las Vegas to face Gino Smith

2139
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: and they want to oh, Raiders, Oh you got it?

2140
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 1: Send City?

2141
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 4: Why are they my favorite team?

2142
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: Because well I'm not.

2143
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 5: I'm spoken there. You said you like the Chargers are

2144
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 5: a good team.

2145
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 4: Well there, I like watching Justin Herbert throw the ball

2146
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 4: around like he did in Brazil.

2147
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: The Bills are your team.

2148
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 5: I forget about it.

2149
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a tough game for

2150
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers. I think he's gonna be closer. Do you

2151
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 3: think I think Geo Smith played well last week. They're

2152
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 3: gonna score some points, but I'll take the Chargers.

2153
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 4: It'll be Pike though. It's gonna be a fun game.

2154
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think it's Pete Carl's birth having not mistaken.

2155
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 6: If that means anything to anybody out there. I mean,

2156
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 6: this was I was on a breakdown video I was watching.

2157
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 6: But I'm taking the Chargers as well. I mean, I

2158
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 6: think the Chargers are a better team, so I'm gonna

2159
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 6: take the better.

2160
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 4: Team our ball peril.

2161
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 3: The rivalry been that way for White right back in

2162
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 3: college Stamford and USC and then in Seattle and San Francisco,

2163
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:03,799
Speaker 3: so that renewed.

2164
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: It continues, by the way. Also another birthday tonight, Brent

2165
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 1: reab are a fantastic producer behind the scenes.

2166
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 4: It's birthday. Yeah, it's probably like twenty five.

2167
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: Or yeah, something like that. Yeah, it's all state of mind.

2168
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is all state believe me. I can, I

2169
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 4: can tell you it's all state of mind.

2170
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: Right, all right, So we got a few minutes that

2171
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: remaining on the program. Where how do you feel now

2172
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 1: with the Texans coming in this week?

2173
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 4: Let me see, can I can I wait till after tonight?

2174
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 4: Tell we'll have a good idea, right, Well, I mean

2175
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 4: they were bad last week. I'll be honest with you.

2176
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 4: I was really you know, we talked about offensive line play.

2177
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 4: Their line play was terrible last week, really bad. So

2178
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 4: I got to see the line play better.

2179
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: They were in a good spots tonight though, Like I

2180
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 3: said earlier, Tampa's on back to back road games on

2181
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 3: a Monday night against a team and an opener at home.

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01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a bad combination. So I'm curious to

2183
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 4: see how the Texans offensive line plays tonight.

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01:35:59,320 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: What do you think?

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01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 6: I think you have the Texans on a short week

2186
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 6: coming to your home. I feel like it's almost a

2187
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 6: must win win game in the division right now, you know,

2188
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 6: try to get some confidence back. You know, there was

2189
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 6: a lot of things to take away that were pretty

2190
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 6: positive from that Bengals game, but a lot that needs

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01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 6: to be worked on. And I think Liam Cornfy's showing

2192
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 6: us one thing so far. It's those things that need

2193
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 6: to be worked on, whether it's the pre snap penalties

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01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 6: and everything like that. Those get fixed the next game,

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01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 6: right So I have no reason to not believe that

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01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 6: he'll get those things addressed. You play a clean game

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01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 6: and and I think you got a chance to beat

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01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 6: the Houston Texans, who are going to have to win

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01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 6: that game.

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01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 4: I think they win that game. I'm not going to

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01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 4: make it a lock.

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01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 1: Pete, No, No, they're on the doorstep this week.

2203
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna lock it, but I think they

2204
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 4: win the game. And then they win the game, don't

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01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 4: the Chiefs come in two weeks from tonight?

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01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: No, it's Uh, that's week San Fran three weeks. Francisco

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01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: is before that.

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01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 4: Three weeks from tonight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, then then you play Mac Jones and in San Francisco.

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01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Houston, San Fran and then Can'ansas City October sixth, Kansas City.

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01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, three weeks from tonight. So they're gonna look back

2212
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 4: at this Spangles game again. How did that happen?

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01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: You watch it happened?

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01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think they win this week and it win

2215
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 4: surprise me. The Niners game is gonna be tough.

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01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 5: You're not gonna lock either one of those.

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01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 4: If you're not, you're staying not locking either one.

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01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 5: Boston staying away too. Oh yeah, great show, guys.

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01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 4: He's kind of he's got to get into the locked

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01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 4: game camera.

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01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 6: I'm a ring camera. I see what's coming.

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01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 4: I'm fine.

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01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't anything right now.

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01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm looking for We gotta get locked anything right now

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01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 3: as I used to lock a game every Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadwick. Thanks for listening. Jaguars Happy Hour