1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Twins. Reporter for The Athletic, Dan Hayes is here covering 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: what I think is one of the most shocking headlines 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: of the sports year. The Pollads had been looking to 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: sell the Minnesota Twins for about a year, and Dan 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: has been all over the case here. He put out 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: another article this morning with Brittany Giroli and The Athletic 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: why the Pollads stunned potential buyers and kept control of 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: the Twins. That is a real quote from one of 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: the next generation family members of the pole Ads, Joe 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Paulad said, we are the right people. Dan, here we go. 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: What the heck happened? And how has this shook Minneapolis? 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Oh man. 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: I'm sitting by the Delta complaints counter here at MSP 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: and I halfway expect a bunch of Twins fans to 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: line up and complain about the pole Ads. It's been 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: a rough couple of weeks. I mean, the trade deabline 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: was shocking enough, right, but this sale was stagnant. Basically 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: after Justinishbia left. It just felt like there was momentum times, 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: but the thing it always lacked was big fish. You 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: always need an anchor investor like the guy with the 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: big Bucks. The Twins had a ton of interest from 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: limited partners, and we saw that play out right here, 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: where two groups investing at least twenty percent into the club. 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: We're willing to. 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: Buy it up without having a path to control, without 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: having anything more than a seat on the board. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: And so that's two seats on the board. 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: We don't know how big the board is, we don't 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: know how much voice they will actually have. 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: That's a very unique, unusual deal. 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: There was plenty of people like this that were interested, 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: but I think after Justinishbia kind of left and abandoned 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: has pursued of the Twins in January when the when 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: Jerry Reinsdorf's sons reached out, they really couldn't find someone 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: that wanted to come in. 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: And so this this team sat on the market. 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: And there's only so long that you can keep the 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: house on an open market before the value starts to 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: go down and bids get less. The MLB wasn't going 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: to let that happen. I think that you know, it 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: sat there forever, and they had groups still spinning their 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: wheels trying to put stuff together, and we wrote about 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 3: that that there were still investors meeting yesterday trying to 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,279 Speaker 3: figure out a way to get there, and they were surprised, 45 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: blindsided to see this sale happen the way it did, 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: the partial sale, but I mean that was the Option's 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: been there for six months. The price hasn't changed, and 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: like I think, just at some point the Pullouds had 49 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: to kind of pull the plug, and by doing this 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: they infuse much needed cash without giving up power. This 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: probably positions them for a sale down the road, even 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: though they say they're committed, and I didn't include that 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: in the story today, but Joe pull D said, we're committed, 54 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: but it probably positions them after the next CBA for 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: selling them when franchise. 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: Values might be higher. The fact that they will have 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: half the debt. 58 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: Or somewhere in that realm a significant amount less with debt, 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: it should increase the value of the Twins and position 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: them well later. But I mean, you know, Twins fans 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: have been clamoring for this for probably decades since. 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: The contraction bid in two thousand and two. You know, 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: I mean, if. 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: There are two thousand and one, the years are mixed 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: up in my head here, but you know, like they've 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: been clamoring for a sale for a long time. The 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: last ten months we've seen just an overwhelming push for 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: them to sell from fans, and I think they're very 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: disappointed today. And I certainly would not want to be 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 3: in the season ticket holder office talking to those guys. 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: Dan. 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: It's only if we would have talked about this months 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: and years ago. I mean, it was two thousand and two, 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: by the way, contraction because I was on the team 75 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: they want to get rid of it. It was between 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: two thousand and one and two thousand and two US 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: and the Expos they were talking about contracting, getting rid 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: of the the franchises for whatever reason they want to 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: come up with. Whatever it was all bs. So here, 80 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: here's the thing, Dan about this. You just mentioned that 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: the pole Ads didn't want to sell, and they wanted 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: Joe Polad to be on the board, and they wanted, 83 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: you know, grand grandson Polad to be on the next 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: board and then the great grandson of that to be 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: the president twenty five thousand years from now. I mean, 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: there was all these stipulations, right, So they never really 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: wanted to sell. That's what it comes across to me. 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: Unless they got blown out of the water, it wasn't happening. 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: You know there's a possible workstop it's coming out. But 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 4: what gets me about all this is we're the right 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: people to run this team? Are you? Because I was 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: there when Carl Pohlad the grandfather, would walk in the 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: clubhouse and not know who the players were, and I'd 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: be standing in my locker and he would go, oh, hi, 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: Tory Hunter, and I'm like, uh no, I'm not Tory Hunter. Right, 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: So like things like that, it was like, wait a second, 97 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: that was twenty five years ago and we're still talking 98 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 4: about it, right, So how can they come out and 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: say we were the right team to or the right 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 4: people to write the ship. 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: You haven't writed it in twenty. 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, let's be honest, since that's been 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: since nineteen ninety. 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: One, right, No, Look, I mean just on recent examples alone, 105 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: they're going to miss the playoffs for the fourth time 106 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: in five years this season. Are in some miracle comeback 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: that's not going to happen. They are on pace for 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: one point eight million tickets right now. 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be the lowest. 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: I think it's currently on pace for five thousand more 111 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: tickets than the all time target field low. They're going 112 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: to miss that. People are gonna not show up. They'll 113 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: they'll end it probably sub one point eight million. They 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: don't have secured a they have not secured a market 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: media deal like significant deal there. There's lots of things 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: to point out right now to say this isn't going well. 117 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: So when I heard that, I mean, yeah, of course, 118 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: that's why it's in the headline. There's a little bit 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: I get they're excited Joe Pollad, this really gives. 120 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: Him run as a shot, and it. 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: Clearly was probably up in the air the last couple 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: of years. I do think if they had gotten the 123 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: right deal, they would have got out. I think that, 124 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's a big family. Started with Carl Pohlad, 125 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: but he had three sons. There are now seven grandchildren, 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: and then all of them have kids, and you're talking, 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: you know, a huge family. Not everybody has the same interests. 128 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: One of the brothers is in. 129 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: The movie industry, like they you have diverse interests when 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: you have a big, rich family. I don't think everybody 131 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: is totally on board. I think a handful definitely are. 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: But there's been just this air of uncertainty, and I 133 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: think had they gotten that big offer, they would have 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: taken it just because how do you pass that up? 135 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: But it's been just awkward, and you know, like you said, 136 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: the statement, the phrasing. This is the same group that 137 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: said they wanted to right size the business last spring 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: training after the thirty. 139 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Million dollar pay cut. 140 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: They make headlines from time to time that have not 141 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: been flattering, to say the least, and frankly anger fans 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: and I can understand it. 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: And you know, Joe pull Out as a friendly dude. 144 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: I enjoyed my interactions with them, but this is two 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: statements like that where it's like, you know, those aren't 146 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: the best statements, and they make headlines and they stick 147 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: around for a while, and I think fans will definitely 148 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: use that for a while, especially if the team isn't 149 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: able to turn this around now. 150 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: I mean, clearly they infused a. 151 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: Lot of talent the deadline, even though they salary dumped 152 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: Carlos Correa. You look at their pitching, there's some really 153 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: intriguing arms along with still having a lot of starting pitching. 154 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: Intact. You saw Joe Ryant last night. 155 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Bailey over maybe looks like he's getting back on the 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: right track. Pablo Lopez is around the corner. Zebbie Matthews 157 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: looked pretty good Monday a Yankee Stadium. And then you 158 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: have TODJ. Bradley of Mike Abel and you have Kendrick Rojas. 159 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: I mean you have some good starting pitching. Like there's 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: a world where you. 161 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Can see them maybe getting healthy. 162 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: Quicker if some young guys developed, But if they don't, 163 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: like how long are people going to hold those kinds 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: of phrases over their heads? 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Kratz tell everyone why they need to look into a 166 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: virtual private network aka of VPN. 167 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 5: It's kind of like wearing trousers. 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History shows you they've had infusion 188 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: of really good position players. Now they have Byron Bucks 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: News healthy and you think Royce Lewis is gonna get 190 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: better because he actually plays worse when he's playing all 191 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: the time, and he plays better when he's hurt all 192 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 5: the time. So you know, it's it's you have that infusion, 193 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 5: it's the same Twins team. What does the writing of 194 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 5: the ship actually look like? If that is true? 195 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's hard to say. 196 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: Look, the previous plan, the plug got pulled after the 197 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: playoffs when they signed Carlos Career. I want to say 198 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: the day that Christian Vosque has signed was the day 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: Korea was going to have his press conference with the 200 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: San Francisco Giants, and I sat in Joe Poulad's office 201 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: that day with Dustin Morris, communications director, and we talked 202 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: about what payroll could look like if the business was right, 203 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: and Joe Poled said there was a world and I 204 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: used the quote, there's a world in which if the 205 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: business is healthy and the team is ready, I could 206 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: see us having a one eighty two hundred million dollar 207 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: pay well. I floated the numbers, one eighty two hundred million, 208 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: and he said, I could see. 209 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: That being a reality. That was the plan. 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: Then they signed Carlos Korea. Three weeks later. They had 211 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: the record payroll that year was either one hundred and 212 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: fifty seven million dollars or maybe one sixty But then 213 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: they pulled the plug on that year. Later they cut 214 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: payroll by thirty million dollars. They stopped adding around that group, 215 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: so it's kind of incomplete, like you're seeing what is 216 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: left of that now, which is a not an athletic team. 217 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: Luke Kishaw has been a breath of fresh air because 218 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: he is athletic. Roys Lewis is starting to show some 219 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: of the signs of that again because he's looking healthy. 220 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: Byron Buckston clearly is one of those guys. Now we're 221 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: going to see them go in this younger athletic direction. 222 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say they're going to go what the Rays 223 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: are doing or the Milwaukee Brewers are doing, but I 224 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: mean it wouldn't shock me if. 225 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: They try to go in a new direction. It's yeah, 226 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: it's confusing. 227 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: If I was a fan, i'd be frustrated that July 228 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: thirty one was a dark day. I mean, I've struggled 229 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: to find anyone that can tell me at any point 230 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: where they've seen ten players traded. And by the way, 231 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: I apologize for my camera, this is not optimal, but 232 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 3: you know, this has been a really rough stretch and 233 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 3: what getting right looks like, I don't know. I think 234 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: that's why fans wanted a fresh perspective coming in, a 235 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: clean break, and clearly we're not getting that, and you 236 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: have to wonder what the future holds. 237 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I got to ask because Falve came out and 238 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: said he was directed by ownership to trade everybody. But 239 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: now the ownership saying we didn't say that, So who 240 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: wanted to fire sale? 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: You brought it up. 242 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: They traded, you know what, almost half their team away 243 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 4: in like four hours, So who was it on. Was 244 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: this a fallavi decision, Was this a whole out decision, 245 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: or was it the fans are going to be mad 246 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: at me, so we'll just do it anyway's decision. 247 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: I think Korea was definitely something from an ownership level, 248 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: the impending free agents, that was a given we were 249 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: going to see them get traded anyways, you know the 250 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: way they've described it is. And I asked Joe Paul 251 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: specifically about the deadline yestady, and he said, I thought 252 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: it was good baseball decisions for the long term, short 253 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: term and long term health of our franchise. 254 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: So I know they plan on using there. I don't 255 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: know how they will use it, because he phrased it 256 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: if we choose to do so. But he talked about 257 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: the financial flexibility. 258 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 3: I don't know that the payrel is going to go 259 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: up much from where it is right now, and next 260 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: year it wouldn't shock me if we saw them around 261 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars. But I mean, honestly, those aren't decisions. 262 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: They're made until October November anyways. But it's going to 263 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: depend on season ticket base and what that looks like. 264 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: And I can't see the season ticket holders sticking around 265 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: right now. 266 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see what that fallout 267 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: looks like. But I would say it was directed. 268 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: From ownership level, even if they're saying no, they were 269 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: motivated to move Carlos Corey's money absolutely the way too. 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: I think partly you can say it's Derek Falvey. 271 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: As far as knowing what direction they're heading and knowing 272 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: that they needed a talent in fusion. 273 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: One way to do that is sell off a good bullpen. 274 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: And so I think that's why we saw Louis Varlin 275 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: get traded, Griffin Jacks get traded, was hey, we can 276 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: bring in this younger talent that's, you know, high upside 277 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: and very attractive. 278 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: Even though Louis Varland. 279 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: Himself had very little service time. They really love the 280 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 3: guy that got Ken Rojas. They love Alan Roaden. They 281 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: think Alan Roden and I've heard a lot of people say, man, 282 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: this performance has been so consistent across the miners. I 283 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: think he at one hundred and sixty five walks, one 284 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five strikeouts, and thirteen hundred minor league 285 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 3: plate appearances. They want to see what he can do 286 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: at the major league level they were. They were blown 287 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: away by that offer and decided to make that. So 288 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: it wouldn't shock me if it was a little boats, 289 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: but I would not. 290 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: I think think. 291 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: Ownership's fingerprints are all over the whole the whole scheme 292 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: in general. 293 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: Can you confirm this? Maybe I got trolled on a 294 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 5: story I read. Did the Twins up season ticket prices 295 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: for next year right before the trade deadline? Or did 296 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 5: I not read that correctly? 297 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: You know what? I honestly, I doe. There's been too 298 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: much going on. I don't know. I'll look into that 299 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: and get back to you guys, But the last three 300 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: weeks as of bar it's just a bo kratzy. 301 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what happened. I was told that they're 302 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: going to up at five percent. So I could be wrong. 303 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: I could be trolled. I could be been given bad information, Dan, 304 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. It was something that I was told 305 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: from people not in the organization that I know outside 306 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: the organization, that said there's there was a rumor and 307 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: they think it's fact that the ticket prices are going 308 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: to go up five percent next year and so right, 309 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: And this was right after the trade deadline when they 310 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: were going to send out the season ticket list. 311 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen people online today just kind of 312 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: grandstanding showing that they're canceling their accounts. I've heard from 313 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: one person that it's a busy day in there, and 314 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: not the fun kind of busy day. 315 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: So it's going to be very interesting. 316 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: And you know what, rarely my perspective do you cover 317 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: a team from a the business side of things, But 318 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: clearly that's something that we have to keep an eye on. 319 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a team that just went to 320 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: MLB run Twins TV this year. You know there there's 321 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: a lot of uncertainty going forward and you know where's 322 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: where ticket sales are to be Next year is gonna 323 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: be really interesting. 324 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: Now. 325 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: The one thing that's true is winning does cure all. 326 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: And if you put Luke Kishaw and Royce Lewis and 327 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: Byron Bucks and that's starting staff together and get a 328 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: little bit of help here or there, because they do 329 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: have financial flexibility. If they do piece it together, maybe they. 330 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: Are an interesting club. 331 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: But there's just more pressure on that team to win 332 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: right now to get the business side going again. 333 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, otherwise they're taking the franchise. This is a page 334 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: out of the John Fisher Book of how to move. 335 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: But they're not moving and they want to move the team. 336 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: This is such a mess. 337 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: It is and why you know, that's the one part 338 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: is why would you want to move from Targetfield? Target 339 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: Field a spectacular ballpark. I know that April sucks in 340 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: the weather there. If we ever see what a late 341 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: October looks like, that's could be very interesting. But they 342 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: have a long lease at target Field that there. It's 343 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: the same reason contraction didn't happen. There was the least 344 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: the Metrodome. The judge ruled that you can't get out. 345 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: Of your lease. 346 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: This cannot happen, and that shut down contraction talks real quick. 347 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: Twins have like twelve fifteen years left on their lease 348 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: at target Field. 349 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: They're not going anywhere, so you know. 350 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: It really is it's just a really interesting ten months, 351 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: last three weeks. 352 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: It's it's insane. 353 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could not care less. They have tried to 354 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: move the team, contract the team now fake sell the 355 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: team for really over two point one billion dollars if 356 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: you include the debt, and everyone was like that's crazy. 357 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: Someone offered like one point five and they hung up 358 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: the phone, like this is just an utter disaster. But 359 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: at least, and I'll end this the way that we 360 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: started this, at least this is the right person to 361 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: take them through the storm. Declared by I don't know 362 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: the high heaven. Somebody declared it. No one knows who 363 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: it is, but someone declared that Joe paulad is going 364 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: to lead this franchise to glory into victory, and if 365 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: he does, obviously he's going to sell it. So we 366 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: know where they'll be voting, and they'll be trying to 367 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: lock out the world. That's why this is a baseball problem. 368 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: They're going to try and lock out the players and 369 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: the fans from watching baseball next year because it would 370 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: raise the franchise value if they can suppress salaries. It's 371 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: that simple. Someone can come on and tell me otherwise. 372 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: There is no doubt that's where they'll be voting. Behind 373 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: the scenes story for another day. We'll get to that 374 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: in the off season. Wanted to get to the on 375 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: field product here, Dan, we got to jump. But great stuff, man, 376 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and good luck with the complaint 377 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: line over there where. It'll be all about the twins 378 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: and the flights are traveling. Everything's good right now. Flights 379 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: are storing Delta is great, all 380 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: Right, guys, thanks for having me.