1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: app ron every day from one to till four o'clock, 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: and if you miss anything after four o'clock, we post 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: the podcast John Cobelt Show on demand, same as the 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: radio show, and you could listen to it later today 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: or all weekend long. All right, Really excited to have 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: on our next guests. It is Ted Ballaker and Courtney Ballaker. 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: His wife. Ted is the director, Courtney is the producer. 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: And as I've been saying since the started show, their 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: new documentary, a movie called The Coddling of the American Mind, 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: is something I know if you listen to our show regularly, 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: you were going to want to watch because it explains 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: what's gone on at the universities over the last fifteen 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: years or so. I think it started to get noticeable 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: that something bizarre was happening. And it's as if students 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: got to these universities and they were recruited or groomed 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: into a cult that really distorted their mind and made 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: some of them go insane. And you've seen all the behavior, 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: You've seen all the wild, woke, progressive ideas and concepts 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: that's come out of the university, the whole university realm 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: over the last fifteen years. The first time I noticed 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: this was I remember probably twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, is 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: when the Yale students, mostly women, had this massive public 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: meltdown where everybody was crying and screaming because there was 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: a university official, a dean or an assistant dean, who 27 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: put out a memo saying, hey, enjoy Halloween, enjoy the parties. 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Dress up however you want. Don't worry about your costume. 29 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I think the dean and his wife and they were 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: surrounded on campus with all these young women at them 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: that you're supposed to protect us, You're supposed to keep 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: us from being, you know, hurt, And I thought, what's 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: going on here? 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: Wow? 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Little did I know? Did little did anybody know? That 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: the next ten years were going to be a really 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: wild ride. And it's not over yet. Let's get let's 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: get ted. Ballaker, Courtney Ballacker, welcome, Thank you so much 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: for I'm telling you. Your documentary really shook me up. 40 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: And I knew what was coming. I was familiar with 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: the book, and I thought, so I started watching it 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: at home and I actually couldn't sit still on the sofa, 43 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: and I decided to listen and watch it while I 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: was driving, and I was able to well, I got 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: to keep my eyes on the road, so I'll be 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: able to withstand this. 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: But wow, and it's all true, it's all real. 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: You describe what this documentary is about. What did you discover? 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's about the gen Z mental health crisis 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: and a roundabout twenty twelve, everything kind of went sideways. 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: Rates of an anxiety and depression among gen Z just skyrocked 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: it out of nowhere. Even suicide skyrocket it out of nowhere, 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: and people were looking around like, what's going on here? 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: And so the book and now the movie is our 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: attempt to explain what's going on, and it's you put 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: your finger right on it. The first major episode was 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: that eruption at Yale, and it hasn't gotten any better 59 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: since then. People think all the badness has passed us, 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: but I think, especially with what's going on after the 61 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk aftermath, they are very myopic and very naive 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: if they really. 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: Think that, Courtney, what did you discover about the world 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: after helping to produce this movie? 65 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: Well, we We're very good friends with the co author 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: of the book, Greg Lukianov. We've known him for years 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: and we didn't know that he was going through his 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: own mental health crisis that almost led him to suicide, 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: and thank goodness, he did not succeed in that. He 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: does a lot. He's the president of the Foundation for 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: Individual Rights and Expression FIRE. They do a lot of 72 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: work on college campuses, which is in most of his career, 73 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: and what he noticed after he came out of being 74 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: institutionalized that saved him from committing suicide. He saw things 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 4: happening to college students that were leading him to his 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: own depression that almost led him to suicide. Safety ism 77 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: students being taught that they are fragile, students being literally told, well, 78 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: if you have an emotional reaction to something, then that 79 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: means it's really bad and you need to escape it. 80 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: And for me, watching what was happening the Yale example 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 4: of a fantastic one, it was almost like witnessing Munchausen 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: by proxy against college students, committed by college professors and administrators. 83 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: Students who come into an environment where they're supposed to 84 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: be exposed to new ideas. That's why they're there. They're 85 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: there to learn, they're there to discover skill sets, are 86 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 4: there to understand their own worldview and be challenged by it. Instead, 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 4: they were being taught literally to protect themselves from things 88 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 4: that made them sad, uncomfortable and hurt and lo and behold. 89 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: When you do that to young people, they go into 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: the real world, well, where you are surrounded by uncomfortable ideas, 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: people you disagree with, and they couldn't really tolerate it. 92 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: They didn't really know how to survive up against it. 93 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: And that's really frightening. And it's also not surprising that 94 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: that leads to a lot of mental health problems, not 95 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: just with gen zers, which is what the film and 96 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: the book is focused on, but in society in general. 97 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: In the movie, it seems like it was an unhealthy 98 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: confluence of three things. Is this woke progressive politics, the smartphone, 99 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: and social media and the three combined into this toxic 100 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: stew that overwhelmed the emotional health of just millions of students. 101 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and that's a great term. I think about it 102 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: exactly as a toxic stew. You have social media where 103 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: these young people they were kind of born into it, 104 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: you know, ted and iyer of a generation where we 105 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: were fully formed adults, or as close as possible as 106 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: you can be, before social media was put into our life. 107 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: But these young people grew up with it, and that 108 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 4: in and of itself is its own piece. But creating 109 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: a culture in which college students young people are not 110 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: only being told, but almost being taught, how to be fragile. 111 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: One of the interview subjects in our piece, for instance, Arion. 112 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: He's a young man from India. He came to the 113 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: United States literally to go to an American college, and 114 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: he tells this amazing story of a freshman orientation where 115 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: he's sitting around with a bunch of other freshmens and 116 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: the administrator of this orientation went around the room and said, 117 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: what is your trigger? And so everybody in that classroom 118 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: had to identify their trigger, and it got to one 119 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: young woman who said, I don't have one, and the administrator, 120 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: who is a college educator, said well, let's find it. 121 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: And he was really blown away by this. Coming from India, 122 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: he thought, that's beautiful that she doesn't have a trigger. Wow, 123 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: what a great way to live through life. You're doing okay, 124 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: Maybe you had trauma, maybe you have something that you 125 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: are dealing with, but you're moving through it. And to 126 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: have somebody say, well, we're going to find it. It's 127 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: like somebody literally saying, well, if you're not sick, let's 128 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: make you sick. Let's find out how you're sick. How 129 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: is that healthy? How is that preparing young minds for 130 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: the real world that we all deal with once we 131 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: get into the marketplace of ideas, professions, all of the 132 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: things that we're supposed to know how to do. It 133 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: seems like they were unlearning how to do. 134 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: In the movie, there's a lot of talk about how 135 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: the universities, the professors, just the whole infrastructure was teaching 136 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: students that they are fragile, that they are vulnerable, that 137 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: they're really emotionally frail, and they're not ready to handle 138 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: the world. 139 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: That's right. They implement speech codes that One of the 140 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: points we make in the film is this great untruth 141 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: that students are taught you are fragile. But that's a 142 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: terrible thing to teach people. That's a way to make 143 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: them afraid of the world and to help them actually 144 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: develop depression and anxiety. And a lot of times the 145 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: administrators don't come out and just say that They do 146 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: it indirectly by, for instance, shielding students from speakers who 147 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: might make them uncomfortable. So they've canceled hundreds upon hundreds 148 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: of speakers, I mean, everyone from Ben Shapiro to Hill 149 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: Clinton for all kinds of reasons. There are even websites 150 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: where they can report quote unquote offensive students or professors. 151 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: There are biased response teams at the University of Michigan. 152 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: They said the best evidence of bias is your own feelings. 153 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: So it's a very feelings focused worldview that they're creating. 154 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: Too. 155 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: They don't tell them that your feelings often lead you astray. 156 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Just imagine how mad we'd all be if we just 157 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: like followed our feelings all the time. I mean, sometimes 158 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: our feelings point in the right direction, but oftentimes they don't. 159 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: In the movie, Greg explains that he felt like he 160 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: should kill himself, and thank goodness, he didn't follow his feelings. There. 161 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: Can you stand for another segment? 162 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course? 163 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: Okay quickly though, in case people can't hang around. What 164 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: streaming networks are running The Godling of the American Mind. 165 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: The Coddling of the American Mind is on Time Video, 166 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: Apple TV, google Play. You can go to the website, 167 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: The Coddlingmovie dot Com and find out all of the 168 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: streaming services. And we are also on substack. 169 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching it on Prime. 170 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: All right, We're going to talk more with Ted Ballaker 171 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: Courtney Ballacker, director and producer of The Coddling of the 172 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: American Mind. It's really an investigation into why it seems 173 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: so many students coming out of the university's last fifteen 174 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: years had had these mental breakdowns, What was going on, 175 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: what is still going on. 176 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk more coming up. 177 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 178 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 5: six forty. 179 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: And we continue with Ted Ballaker, the director, Courtney Balaker, 180 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: his wife, the producer of a new movie called The 181 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: Coddling of the American Mind, based on a book and 182 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: by Greg looking Off in Jonathan Hate, and it just 183 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: chronicles like the descent into madness at the American university 184 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: system and what it did to the students and how 185 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: everybody became so crazy. And it was a mixture of 186 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: woke progressive politics and social media and smartphones because a 187 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: lot of them, a lot of mental health in this 188 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: country for young people went downhill off the cliff. In 189 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, when smartphones became widespread and okay, let's get 190 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: let's get Ted Ballaker and Courtney Ballaker on. I mean, 191 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean that is the moment when everything changed, because 192 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: in looking back, I realized everything seemed to happen suddenly. 193 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, all these ideas in the university 194 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: must have been around, you know, for decades, but somehow 195 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: it became front and center in everybody's mind. And I 196 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: remember watching your movie where one student talked about arriving 197 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: and he immediately was instructed by his peers. You know 198 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: that he's got to find some type of marginalized group 199 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: to belong to so he would get the proper social status. 200 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: And I guess the smartphone and the social media is 201 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: what metastasized this whole thing. 202 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. You're talking about Sayid, who was an 203 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 3: immigrant from Nigeria and he came to campus, the American 204 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: campus when Trump was elected the first time. He had 205 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: no idea who Trump was, He had no idea what 206 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: it meant to be left or right, and yet, as 207 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: you point out, his classmates demanded that he choose a side. 208 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: You have to have strong feelings about all the right 209 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: progressive beliefs or else you will be shunned or worse. 210 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: And with the smartphone and social media, you can't escape 211 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: even when you're away from them, because it's always haunting you. 212 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: It's always there. You can't escape from social media. It's 213 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: like having the worst parts of junior high in your 214 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: pocket twenty four hours a day or seven days a week. 215 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: And so he went into a very deep, deep depression. 216 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: He almost considered suicide himself. He's a sweet kid who 217 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: had never been to this country before, and he thought 218 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: he was coming for a very kind of free speech, 219 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: open experience, and what he found was exactly the opposite. 220 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: You had four students I remember, tell their stories. It 221 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: seemed like they climbed out of it. How were they able. 222 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: To do that? 223 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: Yes, each one of them dealt with social justice extremism 224 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: in one way or another. One each was able to 225 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: climb out of it. In Sayid's case, it was the 226 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: Cobbling of the American Mind and other books by Jonathan Hight. 227 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: In another case, a young lady. Two young ladies were 228 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: kind of able to draw on the reservoir of good 229 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 3: stuff that their parents had helped provide for them in 230 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: their younger years. In one case, a young woman leaned 231 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: on her Christian faith. In another case, a young woman 232 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: remembered that her family really actually promoted debate, and it 233 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: was it was a place where you stood around the 234 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: table and if you have a good idea, you express it. 235 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: But you can't just expect to have your idea affirmed 236 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: just because you believe deeply in it, without any foundation. 237 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: And so there are various ways that these young people 238 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: were able to climb their way out of it. So 239 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: we certainly hope that young people watch this, and they 240 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: have been watching it. We're happy to say and learn 241 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: from from our young interview subjects. You went into the darkness, 242 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: but pulled themselves back into the light. 243 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Sorry, you go ahead. I was just going 244 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: to say, I mean these ideas the testis laid out. 245 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: I mean this should start really early on. This should 246 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: start at kindergarten. This should start when pete, when before 247 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: we get to college, critical thinking, understanding, how to have 248 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: a conversation or debate and civilized way. The younger we 249 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: can expose children to these ideas and practices, the better 250 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: chance we have of not having this newer generation. I 251 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: guess they're called jen Alpha. Now go down the same 252 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: path that some of these gen Zers have gone down 253 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: that led them to depression and unfortunately suicide and horrible cases. 254 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: I think I remember one of the girls said that 255 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: they were taught that what they say could be trouble, 256 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: what they don't say could be trouble. Like they were 257 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: expected to comment, but they had to have the correct comment, 258 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: and if they didn't comment at all, that in itself 259 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: was a. 260 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: Problem, said the interview subject. That yeah, yeah, I was 261 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: just talking about, said the young man from Nigeria. There's 262 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: literally a part in the documentary John where he says, 263 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: I remember saying one thing out loud to my friends 264 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: and thinking something completely different. I mean, that is a 265 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: recipe for a mental health problem, when you're saying one 266 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: thing but thinking something else. And this just becomes a 267 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 4: part of the territory, apparently because they're afraid they will 268 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: get ostracized, they will not have friends. It's us versus 269 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: them culture now. 270 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: And you have to like they felt like they had 271 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: to play the game, that they had to join one 272 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: of the teachers, and then they had to follow whatever 273 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: the team leaders were instructing, no matter how nuts it was. 274 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: Even if they didn't agree with it. I mean Can 275 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: you imagine walking around the world saying one thing that 276 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: you completely disagree with just because you don't want to 277 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: lose friends? It to the commissary. 278 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, God, I was watching that. 279 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: No. 280 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: If I was in college during this period, I would 281 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: have left. I was about three days. It's just like, 282 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: I am not playing this game. You know, I'm going 283 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: to go and sell vegetables somewhere. I'm not doing this. 284 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. All right, listen. I can't tell 285 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: you how much I enjoyed the movie. I can't tell 286 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: you how much I recommend that everybody listening watched this. 287 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: It's called The Coddling of the American Mind. It's it's 288 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: on all the streaming channels like Prime, like Apple and 289 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: others Google. Ted Ballaker's director, Courtney Ballaker, is the producer, 290 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: and it's based on the book by bred Greg lukan 291 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: Off and Jonathan Hay. Thank you so much for doing this. 292 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: Thank you so. 293 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: Much for some work you do. 294 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: John. We really appreciate it. 295 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Oh, you're welcome. It was good talking with you. 296 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on, Like, okay, take care, there you go, 297 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: And that's Ted and Courtney Ballaker. 298 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: More coming up. 299 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 300 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 5: six forty. 301 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and 302 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: then after four o'clock the podcast John Cobelt Show on 303 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: demand two rounds of the voistline next hour three twenty 304 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: and three point fifty. I really debri you Ott to 305 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: watch the cobbling of the American mind. I mean, your 306 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: kids went through college I think during this era. Oh yeah, 307 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: as did a couple of mine, and oh man, they 308 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: it's so infuriating. And I I just knew instinctively when 309 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: the smartphone came out and I got I always got mocked. 310 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: I said, this thing is going to ruin life. I 311 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: just knew it because as wonderful as it is, as 312 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: long as we want to use it for good things, 313 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: I knew much of the world isn't good. A lot 314 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: of people aren't good, and people are going to give 315 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: in to all their worst impulses and worst desires, and 316 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: oh my god, what what that? That Social media is 317 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: the same thing, and it's really ruined a lot of kids' lives. 318 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: Their brains are permanently destroyed. They've they've been programmed into 319 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: a cult. 320 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: I tell you what. 321 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: They there's so many administrators and professors who ought to 322 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: be uh fired at these universities. There's some people who 323 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 2: can't believe what Trump is doing, threatening federal funding unless 324 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: all woke progressive politics is ended at the universities. He's 325 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: absolutely right. Watch this movie. If you think Trump should 326 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: not be doing this, watch this movie and then come 327 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: back to me. Somebody's got to do it, because it's 328 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: really wrecked the generation. And I actually feel sorry for 329 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: that whole gen Z generation who because some of the 330 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: kids just powered their way through it and realized that 331 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: this was nuts and did the best they could, just 332 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: appeasing whoever they had to appease. But the ones who 333 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: fell for it all the way. And you'll see these 334 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: kids in the movie who sunk to the depths and 335 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: are climbing their way out. 336 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: It is cult. 337 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: I've been calling it a cult. This progressive politics, this 338 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: woke nonsense, it's all a cult. And they used cult 339 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 2: methods to indoctrinate and rope in these kids. I mean, 340 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: you recognize if you've read any books, if you watch 341 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: ever watched a documentary, or heard interviews with people who 342 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: got sucked into cults, you will recognize within thirty seconds. 343 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: The methods used at the university by the administrators who 344 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: run the university and by the professors. They all know 345 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: what they're doing and they just needed the right tool, 346 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: and that was social media and smartphones to amplify the message. 347 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: It's just terrible. So it's the coddling of the American mind. 348 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: You can see it on Prime, Apple Plus and other 349 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: and other streaming channels. 350 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: I got to tell you about this scam though. 351 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: This is one of those hard to believe but absolutely 352 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: easy to believe. You know, recently there was a settlement 353 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: by Los Angeles County Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, 354 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: and those people are really a bunch of numb nuts. 355 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the supervisors, you know, the ones 356 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: who spent no money on the Office of Emergency Management 357 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: and that's why nineteen people died in the Altadena fire. 358 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: You know, they spent no money to warn people to 359 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: get out of the neighborhood during a fire. Well, they 360 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: spent four billion dollars on a settlement for sex abuse 361 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: victims who these people claimed that when they were in 362 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: the juvenile detention system, for example, juvenile halls, foster homes, 363 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: they got sexually abused. Well, some of them did not 364 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: get sexually abused, but they were paid to be part 365 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: of the lawsuit. And so I hope the staff UH 366 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: and and the UH supervisors and Lindsey Horvath pay attention 367 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: Hill to Slise and Holly Mitchell, UH and Jennie Hahn, 368 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: those four knuckleheads. Well, maybe you read this story in 369 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: the Times. There's a a law firm called Downtown LA 370 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: Law Group. They represented some of the plaintiffs. Some of 371 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: the plaintiffs said they were paid to sue. Apparently, if 372 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: you go down to south central Los Angeles to the 373 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: County Benefits office and that's where you get your welfare 374 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: and food stamps, there are salesmen on the sidewalk. They're 375 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: trying to they're they're they're they're hawking. They're selling you. 376 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: They're selling you something. They these incredible deals. For example, 377 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 2: they'll pay you fifteen dollars for a blood pressure exam. 378 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: Now I don't really get that one. You get fifteen 379 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: dollars by holding your arm out for a blood pressure exam. 380 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: They're handing out free phones. You get two dollars for 381 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: a COVID swab. That doesn't make any sense, but that's 382 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: not the point of this. There are people working, so 383 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: is claimed in this story, for the LA LAG Group, 384 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: who was getting plaintiffs to be part of the class 385 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: action sex abuse settlement against LA County. What they do 386 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: is they take people desperate for cash and these salesmen 387 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 2: point them toward the law firm LA Law Group, and 388 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: LA LAG Group will put their names on the list 389 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: and that'll add to the money that they're going to 390 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: get in the settlement and then LA LAG Group keep 391 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: about half the money. All you have to do again, 392 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: you're wandering on the sidewalk, maybe just looking for food 393 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: stamp to get the food stamp line, and they're saying, hey, 394 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: we'll make you some money. Make up a sex abuse, 395 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: make up a sex abuse claim against the county, and 396 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: you could be part of this settlement. 397 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: So people do. LA Time spent two. 398 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: Weeks outside the Social Services office in South LA there 399 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: was a constant flow of people that applied for food 400 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: stamps and cash aid and spoke with seven people who 401 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: said they were paid within the last year to sue 402 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: the county for sex abuse. They had not Some of 403 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: them had not been abused, some of them had not 404 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: planned to sue even if they were, and of course 405 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 2: they were, they were already in the juvenile halls. So 406 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: these are criminals who were lined up on the sidewalk 407 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: to access our tax money through food stamps and welfare. 408 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: Two people said they were told to fabricate stories of abuse. 409 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Here's an example. Marlon Bland is thirty one years old. 410 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: He got two hundred dollars. They paid him one hundred 411 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: dollars in cash outside the office and gave him the 412 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: other one hundred dollars. When he met to meet with 413 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: lawyers from Downtown La Law Group, the receptionist there gave 414 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 2: him one hundred dollars check and then he joined the lawsuit. 415 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: Downtown La Law Group sued the county on his behalf. 416 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: Kevin Richardson. Another one fifty nine years old, said he 417 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: got fifty dollars outside the office. 418 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Another woman, I think, is it a moment. Yeah. 419 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: Quontavia Smith, thirty eight, said the vendor drove her to 420 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 2: the office of the law firm and gave her two 421 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Of the law firm denies all this. Of course, 422 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: Downtown La Law Group a mask more than twenty seven 423 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: hundred people to sue La County. Here's what one of 424 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: the defendants, here's the story he made up. His name 425 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: is Juan Fajardo. He was part of the lawsuit against 426 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: La County LA Supervisors. 427 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: Are you Missay, are you listening to this? 428 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: You guys got conned by this character now, Juan Fajardo 429 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: said he used to sell phones next to the lawsuit vendors. 430 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: He would watch a man pull up outside the social 431 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: services office in a tesla and hand the recruiters cash, 432 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: and then they would give them to potential plaintiffs. Fajardo 433 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: said the recruiters would say, just make up a story, 434 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: say you got touched, here's fifty dollars. 435 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: Then they'll give you. 436 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: The fifty dollars and say, hey, you never know, you 437 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: might even get a lawsuit. One recruiter sold phones. When 438 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: somebody wanted a phone, he would watch the recruiter take 439 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: a call on the new phone and make up a 440 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: story of abuse under the customer's name. Then this recruiter 441 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 2: would hand the customer the phone and pocket the fifty 442 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: for himself. So Fa Heart had been watching this thought, well, 443 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: this looks like a good scam. I'll make up a 444 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: story too, So he made up a fake name and 445 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: a fake birthday. He took fifty dollars and the law 446 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: contacted the law firm and he got a call back. 447 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: Ten minutes after the call, they said his case had 448 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: been accepted. 449 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: Well, what was this story? 450 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: He said, Well, they videotaped ups while we're in the showers, 451 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: touching us while they pat us down. 452 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Be Fahard. 453 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: I heard everybody else say this online, right. That was 454 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: he was in juvenile hall. They would would be in 455 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: the shower and you know, the guards, the attendants would 456 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: would would touch them their private parts while patting us down. 457 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'll use that instead of trying 458 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: to make up a whole different lie. 459 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: And it worked. 460 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: They got paid and then they share fifty percent, they 461 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: claim with the Downtown La Law Group, which again is 462 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: denying all this. 463 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: And then eleven. 464 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 2: Thousand names were brought to the county, although I think 465 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: this law firm represented twenty seven hundred, and there was 466 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 2: a settlement made. Jennis Han, Hildesalise, these geniuses, Holly Mitchell, 467 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: the Lindsay Harvath. 468 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, we'll pay four billion dollars. 469 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: In fact, I think this is the deal where La 470 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: County is going to be paying off this till the 471 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: year twenty fifty, twenty fifty one, something like that. 472 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: And some of these defendants were hired off the street. 473 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: They were bribed, according to this LA Time story, for 474 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. 475 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know what the. 476 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: Of the settlement is, but the law firms share is 477 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: fifty percent. Good lord, what a racket. And you know 478 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: who started this was Newsom and the Democratic legislature because 479 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: what they did is they extended the statute of limitations 480 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: on sex abuse claims, and suddenly thousands of sex abuse 481 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: claims poured in thousands. And now Santa Monica's getting bankrupted. 482 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: LA County's getting bankrupted, and some of these claims are 483 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: totally crazy. Now, the private law firms like John Manley's 484 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: law firm, Manly Sturt and Finalde they do they do 485 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: strict betting, but apparently some of the other law firms don't. 486 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: So there you go. 487 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: More another good use of your tax money. All right, 488 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: More coming up three locker to have Laura Angele on 489 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: about the ditty sentencing. It finally happened. 490 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 491 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 5: six forty. 492 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: Coming up after three o'clock did he's been sentenced. It 493 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: happened on our show at about quarter to two, and 494 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: we were getting but the house shut up, shut him up. 495 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: Quarter to two. We were getting the whole back and 496 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: forth of the defense argument, the prosecutor's argument. What the 497 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: judge was saying. Lor Angle from NewsNation Cable TV news outlet, 498 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: is gonna give us the whole story because did he's 499 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: going to jail? He got a sentence of four years 500 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: and two months, which sounds like it's only going to 501 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: be three years because he's already spent fourteen months in 502 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: prison just awaiting the trial. These are federal charges and 503 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: you don't get much discount on a federal sentence. 504 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 6: Well, didn't he already made plans for next week thinking 505 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 6: that he was that he was getting out. 506 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did, He actually did. He booked two speaking 507 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: engagements in Miami. 508 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 509 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they take zoom out of 510 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: a prison, what's going to happen. He was trying to 511 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: make money. I guess he was going to talk about 512 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: the unfairness of the federal justice system. 513 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, Laurel will be on with this coming up. If 514 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: for Cardli, Laura wouldn't do zoom. I don't think did 515 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: he will? All right? Flying taxis? Did you see this 516 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: this morning? I heard about the La Times un a story. 517 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: Electric air taxis are going to be flying in the 518 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: sky soon and it's it needs approval from the FAA, which, 519 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: by the way, all those people are not getting paid. 520 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: If you're if you're if you're flying anywhere in the 521 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: coming days and weeks. Everybody's unpaid, the TSA agents and 522 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: and the air traffic controllers, especially the air traffic controllers. 523 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: In fact, did you see and I think this is 524 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: why they were still getting money the two Delta planes 525 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: at the Guardia Airport. 526 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: In New York. 527 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did that story yesterday. Yeah, collided on the runway. 528 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? 529 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 6: Well, no, let's not you know what, John, Let's think positive. 530 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 6: Let's not put seriously, let's not put that out there. 531 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 6: That's really scary. 532 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: These guys. First of all, you're going to get hungry 533 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: and thirsty. They've got no money, they can't even go 534 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: to the vending stowll. 535 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 6: Maybe they have a good work ethic and hoping that 536 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 6: this will resolve itself quickly, and they don't want anybody 537 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 6: to be hurt. 538 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hoping. 539 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: So this company is called Vertiports, and a vertiport is 540 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: going to be a place where you can land these 541 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: air taxi helicopters so that we can all jump around 542 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: and avoid traffic, right if you want to go from 543 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: downtown to the airport real fast, or the valley to 544 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: the west side, any number of routes because they want to. 545 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: They want two or three dozen of them scattered around 546 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: the whole La Orange County market, kind. 547 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 6: Of like those scooters that you can jump up right 548 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 6: those what are they birds or whatever they're called. 549 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, except it's it's an air tax right, So you're 550 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: up in the sky, so you're going to see more 551 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: things flying in the sky. 552 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who's keeping track of those. 553 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: They're looking for open land near an airport or a university, 554 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: or on top of a parking garage or on top 555 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: of an office building rooftop in the downtown area. And 556 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: they want to have air travel in congested urban centers 557 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: so you don't have to sit in your car. I 558 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: don't know what the price of this is going to be. 559 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: They have it's a it's called Electric Vertical Takeoff and 560 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: Landing e VTOL. So these aren't going to be gas powered. 561 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: This is uh, this is gonna be I guess battery operation. 562 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 6: What happens when the battery dies midair? 563 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 564 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: And this is supposed to bring helicopter travel to the 565 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: masses and they make less noise, so maybe the TV 566 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: stations can get this. 567 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: Wait to wait a second, we're already having trouble. 568 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 6: Look at as you mentioned those two planes that glided 569 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 6: at La Bardia, So how are we going to how 570 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 6: are we going at We're putting more flying. 571 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: Objects, Yeah, dozens of the right. 572 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: Who's who's going to be monitoring those things? 573 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, nobody. It seems nobody's monitoring anything now. 574 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: SOFI Stadium is going to be one of the sites 575 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: lax and uh every everywhere from Santa Monica to Orange 576 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: County and uh they're looking at clusters of offices and stores, 577 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: dense residential neighborhoods where there's a lot of heavy traffic 578 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: on the freeways and the main boulevards, and you'll have 579 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: a little vertiport nearby to jump by the taxi. It 580 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: doesn't say how it's going to cost, but it's more 581 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: things to fall out of the sky. 582 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: Is the way I looked at it, or crash. 583 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: Right right to go along with these wacky waymos that 584 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: are all over the place. They you know the story 585 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: about the one that made a you turn suddenly in traffic. Yeah, yeah, 586 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: I was reading one of the papers had a story 587 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 2: about it and says, this raises questions about the safety 588 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: of these Yeah, it raises questions. I love that phrase. 589 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: It raises questions. Yes, the thing took off on its 590 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: own and did an illegal U turn. All right, we 591 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: come back. Lore Engele News Nation. It's a good cable 592 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: TV news operation. And she's been covering the Sean Ditty 593 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: Combs trial for quite a while and today was sentencing 594 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: day and she'll have the whole story from beginning to 595 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: end coming up in minutes. Debor Mark Live MCAFI twenty 596 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John 597 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 2: Cobalt Show podcast. 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