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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson will ask Sean Salisbury, the former NFL quarterback
Speaker 1: and a sports talk host in Houston. He'll join us.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll check in with the Padres, the Padres
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Speaker 1: us as well. McLevin has to come up with a
Speaker 1: poll question ethan of course as stat of the Day
Speaker 1: or two. And we have our play of the day
Speaker 1: coming up as well. Four baseball games today and tonight.
Speaker 1: Lakers heat tonight game four, Astros over the A's, Yanks
Speaker 1: beat the Rays, and last night in a double header. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs beating the Patriots by sixteen, Packers beating the
Speaker 1: Falcons by fourteen after an owen four start. The Texans
Speaker 1: parted ways with Bill O'Brien yesterday and he's the most
Speaker 1: successful coach in team history. Took them to the playoffs
Speaker 1: in four of the last five years. And I started
Speaker 1: to wonder about this with Bill O'Brien. You know, coaches
Speaker 1: one control. They're all control freaks. And I understand that,
Speaker 1: but you should be a coach. It's hard to be
Speaker 1: a coach and a GM. Now some have been able
Speaker 1: to do it. Bill Belichick is able to do it.
Speaker 1: But Bill O'Brien is not Bill Belichick, and if he
Speaker 1: was just hired on his coaching abilities, would he still
Speaker 1: have that job? Considering what he's done over the last
Speaker 1: five years, the playoffs four the last five years, we
Speaker 1: can talk about the FC South being watered down, he
Speaker 1: still has won those divisions. Bill O'Brien was fired despite
Speaker 1: leading them to four divisional titles in the last five years.
Speaker 1: Then you start to look at this since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: who has won the most divisional titles by head coach
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick five, Bill O'Brien, and Andy Reid four, Sean
Speaker 1: Payton with three. That's a pretty good company there. For
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. It's Bill O'Brien. The GM that's the problem
Speaker 1: because he took over the job is GM in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: This past offseason, he traded wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins to
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. You got running back David Johnson in a
Speaker 1: second round pick. Hopkins leads the NFL and catches. Texans
Speaker 1: have struggled to move the ball. He's had other moves
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. Gave up the future for Laramie Tunsel.
Speaker 1: Do you rebuild now for a team that's owing four
Speaker 1: very difficult schedule first four games. But firing Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: is a recognition from ownership that it's try something. You know,
Speaker 1: they have to try something new here because they were
Speaker 1: not going to get as far as they thought they
Speaker 1: were going to get. And they finally got a quarterback
Speaker 1: there into Shaun Watson, and I've always implored them to
Speaker 1: get an offensive line so he doesn't end up like
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. You traded away DeAndre Hopkins. We knew that
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins did not want to stay in Houston, did
Speaker 1: not get along with Bill O'Brien, and that he was
Speaker 1: and he wanted to be the highest paid wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But I got to get a little bit more for
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins because I need draft picks, and you've given
Speaker 1: up your draft picks. You brought in Laramie Tunsil, which
Speaker 1: you gave up a lot to bring in Laramie Tunsil.
Speaker 1: You got to protect a Shawn Watson. I understand that,
Speaker 1: but if I'm giving up DeAndre Hopkins, who is one
Speaker 1: of the top three wide receivers, I would hope I
Speaker 1: could get a wide receiver in return, or a number
Speaker 1: one pick that maybe I could use on a wide
Speaker 1: receiver somewhere down the line. But Bill O'Brien, you can
Speaker 1: argue was a good coach. There's no argument about him
Speaker 1: being a GM I think because he made some moves
Speaker 1: that are going to really impact this team the next
Speaker 1: couple of years. And Romeo Cornell takes over, I don't
Speaker 1: know who comes in and takes over this job. By
Speaker 1: the way, I asked Peter King this question, could you
Speaker 1: just hire Eric b Enemy from the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and say you're the next head coach
Speaker 1: of the Texans. Well, there is the anti tampering policy,
Speaker 1: and if you're under contract during the season, you're not
Speaker 1: able to negotiate with somebody. You can't give that job
Speaker 1: to Eric. Be on me right now if you wanted to.
Speaker 1: The Jets couldn't do that if they were going to
Speaker 1: fire Adam Gays. I wonder about what the Falcons are
Speaker 1: going to do because Arthur Blank, from what I'm told,
Speaker 1: did not want to be the first owner to fire
Speaker 1: a coach this season. Well, you don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about that now. With Bill O'Brien fired and Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: losing last night to the Green Bay Packers, and we
Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen. I mean, dan Quinn
Speaker 1: knows it's not if, but when, and it's probably. They'll
Speaker 1: probably extended a little bit further because you know, unless
Speaker 1: you have somebody that you can put in there and go,
Speaker 1: this is going to help us. This is an upgrade,
Speaker 1: you know, unless the players stopped playing for this coach.
Speaker 1: And I don't get that feeling in Atlanta, but from
Speaker 1: what I was told, Arthur Blank did not want to
Speaker 1: be that first guy, first owner to go, I'm going
Speaker 1: to fire my coach because of the sensitivity of COVID
Speaker 1: and dealing with all these obstacles, these hurdles here. But
Speaker 1: you know, after a month, you know, this is business now,
Speaker 1: and dan Quinn may not last the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: and nobody's going to be surprised there, but there will
Speaker 1: be quite a few openings and Eric bi enemy the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinated with the Chiefs, is going to probably have
Speaker 1: his pick. And speaking of the Chiefs, if I'm facing
Speaker 1: Kansas City, I look at what Bill Belichick has done
Speaker 1: the last couple of times he's faced Patrick Mahomes. He's
Speaker 1: going to drop eight defensive backs. He doesn't blitz. He
Speaker 1: just he wants to and he's done a good job
Speaker 1: in keeping the numbers reasonable for Patrick Mahomes. And I
Speaker 1: did wonder with the defensive philosophy last night. If Cam
Speaker 1: Newton was playing, New England would have won that game
Speaker 1: in my opinion, or at least it would have been
Speaker 1: really close because you had Hoyer and Stidham. It was
Speaker 1: close with them, by the way, after watching their performance.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's job is safe when he does come back
Speaker 1: safe er. But the defensive strategy here is and New
Speaker 1: England has good secondary, so not everybody when people go,
Speaker 1: we got our blueprint, well, I have to have a
Speaker 1: good secondary. First of all. It helps having a defensive
Speaker 1: genius in Belichick devising all of this. But I thought
Speaker 1: that they did a pretty good job on the road
Speaker 1: with less than inspiring play from the quarterbacks there. And
Speaker 1: if you're going to you know if you can control
Speaker 1: the ball, and early on New England ran the ball,
Speaker 1: controlled the ball. I don't want Howyer to make a
Speaker 1: mistake and then he made a mistake and then you're
Speaker 1: in trouble. But I gotta keep Mahomes off the field
Speaker 1: as best as you can. So a team that meets
Speaker 1: Kansas City this year is going to beat them, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, by running the football, And then what do
Speaker 1: you do defensively? And can you match up with all
Speaker 1: those weapons and frustrate Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes is just like
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner. When Kurt Warner joined us. This is a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and I said, did you like
Speaker 1: being blitzed when you were quarterbacking the Ramps? And he said,
Speaker 1: I loved it, loved it. Quarterbacks if they know somebody
Speaker 1: is coming, that leaves an area open and they love that.
Speaker 1: And Kurt Warner said, I couldn't wait for you to
Speaker 1: blitz me because somebody was always open. I think the
Speaker 1: Patriots blitzed him twice last night. That was it. As
Speaker 1: far as Aaron Rodgers, he's making it look easy. And
Speaker 1: even if you're a Packers fan, you're going, who are
Speaker 1: those guys out there? Give me a Jones and a
Speaker 1: Williams and the tight end and never heard of him
Speaker 1: and Rogers just seems like this is kind of simple.
Speaker 1: And it feels like he bought in. He bought into
Speaker 1: Matt Lafloor and said, all right, let's try it. He's motivated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now at the end of the year, do we Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, oh man, you drafted a quarterback. He's got
Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder. I had to say that,
Speaker 1: I know, Oh, I know it does. Yeah. So if
Speaker 1: that's the case, everybody should be doing that. Why didn't
Speaker 1: the Steelers do it? They got a guy, Duck Devilin
Speaker 1: that didn't inspire Ben Roethlisberger. I don't think did he
Speaker 1: have a chip on his shoulder? I got a chip. No,
Speaker 1: it's a chip in my elbow, yas mclovin. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: Duck Devlin was an undrafted, unplayable guy. I know. I
Speaker 1: just suppose made set me back a second. If Cannon
Speaker 1: and played last night, do you think the Chiefs would
Speaker 1: actually showed up and been more awake for that game.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's easy to say they were just
Speaker 1: like we got Brian Horyer, were barely going to play.
Speaker 1: It was not the Chiefs last night. Well, they did
Speaker 1: say that we didn't have the time to prepare. Keep
Speaker 1: in mind New England didn't. They had the same amount
Speaker 1: of time to prepare and had to fly on game
Speaker 1: day and then quarantine when they get there, testing and
Speaker 1: then they go out and play. So no excuses from
Speaker 1: Kansas City. At least New England has one. You got
Speaker 1: you actually got an extra day to prepare for this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcl is this a blueprint for slowing down Mahomes? But
Speaker 1: you just described could other to like the Ravens blitz
Speaker 1: all the time and get shredded by him. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: would hate to see you blitz him. I just think
Speaker 1: if you run and control the clock and limit the
Speaker 1: number of chances he gets when he's on the field,
Speaker 1: no easier said than done. But it is going to
Speaker 1: be difficult to beat this team. But if you do,
Speaker 1: I think you'll run the ball and I think that
Speaker 1: your defense will be, you know, empowered by your secondary
Speaker 1: I don't need to put pressure on him as much
Speaker 1: as just frustrate him and make those windows even smaller.
Speaker 1: But we'll talk to Chris Simms a little bit later
Speaker 1: on on loan from Football Night in America and of
Speaker 1: course Pro Football Talk dot com. Nick Love and what
Speaker 1: kind of poll question do you have for me? Okay,
Speaker 1: we had this debate pre show. Who would you start
Speaker 1: to think if you were the Patriots? Bryan Hoyer who
Speaker 1: was fifteen for twenty four zero tds one I t
Speaker 1: or Jared Stidham, who was five for thirteen sixty yards
Speaker 1: at TD and two interceptions. They're playing the Broncos. I
Speaker 1: would probably still start Hoyer, like, just go out there
Speaker 1: and just be simple. Just play, don't don't try to
Speaker 1: win a game. Let's just get out of here with
Speaker 1: a win and then welcome Cam back. Stidham's not afraid,
Speaker 1: so they like I. Now. I had two interceptions and
Speaker 1: had another one overturned, but I like it. I just
Speaker 1: don't like it now because I you know, you have
Speaker 1: a chance to go to the playoffs with Cam. You're
Speaker 1: not going to go to the playoffs with Jared Stidham
Speaker 1: right now. But I did like that he looks the part,
Speaker 1: and I think he thinks the part and confident enough.
Speaker 1: And were just some of those throws where I go, dude,
Speaker 1: you're you're on the field. You're with Trick Mahomes, but
Speaker 1: you're not Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. See, that's I liked. With
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. You're like, all right, they're letting him sling
Speaker 1: it a little bit. It's fun. It's not just going
Speaker 1: to be a running day. I was also watching the
Speaker 1: Packers game and I said, yesterday you got two defenses
Speaker 1: that are porous, and you got some offenses that can
Speaker 1: score some points. And the over under was fifty six
Speaker 1: and a half, I think, And I said, this is
Speaker 1: screaming for betters to take the over. That's why I
Speaker 1: would take the under. And I had to make up
Speaker 1: for my Miami Dolphins spent, but there I gave you
Speaker 1: the under for the Green Bay Packers and the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. What do you have? McLevin? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: super mean and we don't do this on this show.
Speaker 1: But who's the next coach that's gonna get fired? Is it?
Speaker 1: Who is more like the Dan Quinn Matt Patrician Detroit,
Speaker 1: more Adam Gase in New York? Although the Jets, I
Speaker 1: guess gave him a vote of confidence. I always felt
Speaker 1: whenever I heard that vote of confidence, that meant you,
Speaker 1: absolutely positively, we're getting fired. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Of course we're gonna keep him. We're gonna keep him
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. M Okay, do any of
Speaker 1: those coaches last the entire season? I wonder because it,
Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Patricia, you can't hold fourth quarter leads,
Speaker 1: and this is a team that there was a lot
Speaker 1: of preseason buzz they were going to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and it's make the playoffs or you know, Matt's gonna
Speaker 1: get fired. And it goes back to remember when I
Speaker 1: told you I'd been told that they really like they
Speaker 1: wanted to take Tua, but they said in a house,
Speaker 1: the coaching staff knew we have to win this next
Speaker 1: season and that means with Matthew Stafford. And could you
Speaker 1: trade Matthew Stafford? Now, once again, this was just chatter
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, and I said, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna go all in, then go all in. And you know,
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia could hitch his wagon and maybe get an
Speaker 1: extra year or so here, but that ain't that's not
Speaker 1: going to happen if they don't turn this around. Atlanta
Speaker 1: dan Quinn we know has gone. Adam Gaze I'm assuming
Speaker 1: is gone, especially if they're going to have the number
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft. Yeah. Point, it's interesting that
Speaker 1: if Detroit fires Matt Patricia, he'll be the hottest defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator prospect immediately. I think the next day everyone will
Speaker 1: line up to tire him, but not as the head coach,
Speaker 1: back as a defensive coordinator. Yeah, you know, we just
Speaker 1: assume that that is that the progression. You're really good
Speaker 1: at your job, therefore we're going to put you in
Speaker 1: a job that we don't know if you're really good
Speaker 1: at that. Yeah, and the club, but they've spent so
Speaker 1: much money our defensive getting they getting torched. I know
Speaker 1: it's bizarre, and he's a defensive minded guy. But you know,
Speaker 1: I have no idea who some of these other coordinators
Speaker 1: out there are. Eric Bienemy will get a job, He'll
Speaker 1: get to choose what job he wants. Yeah, I'm the club. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the poll I want to put up. If you
Speaker 1: were a successful coach and you had your choice of
Speaker 1: college or pro off, a Dabbo or more like a
Speaker 1: Ryan Day or Lincoln Riley, which would you choose? Lincoln Riley?
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. By the way, if McCarthy doesn't start winning,
Speaker 1: just start Well, no, you can't play that Cowboys shirt.
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, we're gonna bring in
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, who's not winning at Oklahoma. Oh that doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: He's still Lincoln Riley. You don't Jerry falls in love, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's got to stay in love with Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: for a little while. I don't know. No, he's gotta
Speaker 1: he's gotta give him a chance. Here, he's gotta gotta
Speaker 1: give him a couple of years. There's no, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a one and done in there. No, no
Speaker 1: he's not. He'll finish eight and eight. They'll get a contract. Okay,
Speaker 1: say you're Ryan Day and you get which is better
Speaker 1: to coach, like a big time college program where you
Speaker 1: have I don't know his personality, you're a random, No,
Speaker 1: you're a coach. You have a okay to success, had
Speaker 1: a program, or you can challenge yourself and go to
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's kind of well, And we were talking
Speaker 1: about this prior to start of the show and Seton goes.
Speaker 1: You know, isn't that just how we think that you
Speaker 1: want to go for the next job, the better job,
Speaker 1: or you know, the better challenge. And it's true that
Speaker 1: we always, you know, I think most of us think
Speaker 1: that way, Like, Hey, I've mastered this, I'm really good
Speaker 1: at radio. I want to be on TV. Hey I'm
Speaker 1: on TV. I want to be on Sports Center. Hey
Speaker 1: I'm on Sports Center. I want to host Football Night
Speaker 1: in America. You know, I understand the progression there. But
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney, to me is a college coach. Joe Paterno
Speaker 1: is a college coach. Bear Bryant College coach, Mike Schevski
Speaker 1: college coach. There's certain there's certain guys. Nick Saban college coach,
Speaker 1: Steve Steve Spurrier college coach. Now that didn't mean that
Speaker 1: they didn't want to try it, because a lot of
Speaker 1: those coaches I mentioned flirted with it. Zhevsky nearly became
Speaker 1: the Laker head coach. There is that allure of man,
Speaker 1: do I do it now? Do I test myself now?
Speaker 1: But you know, it's the personality makeup. Can like running
Speaker 1: a team. You have to answer all the questions. If
Speaker 1: I'm just the offensive coordinator, I just deal with the offense.
Speaker 1: I'm the head coach. I got a deal with the owner,
Speaker 1: I got a deal with fans, boosters, I gotta deal
Speaker 1: with parents. I mean, there's so much involved in all
Speaker 1: of this, depending on if you're in the NFL and
Speaker 1: college yeampo. I can't think of a great college coach
Speaker 1: who didn't try the NFL. Spurrier, Saban, Petrino, which Davis
Speaker 1: Dennis ericson, I can't think of one who just said
Speaker 1: I'm staying. Remember remember Kirk Ferens at Iowa. Well, Paterno,
Speaker 1: I know that the Redskins looked at Paterno. He went
Speaker 1: wired to wire. Yeah, I'm about a decade ago. Kirk
Speaker 1: Ferns made fifteen years ago. Kirk ference was being talked
Speaker 1: about for the Pros and he passed, Yeah, he's going
Speaker 1: wired to wire to Iowa. Yeah, he's the anomaly. Well,
Speaker 1: you get to a point where they stop calling. You
Speaker 1: like the call, and then when they you go no,
Speaker 1: I'm good, then they stopped calling. Eventually, this program brought
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Speaker 1: the pros. They got delivery options to get you what
Speaker 1: you need exactly where you need it, so you can
Speaker 1: keep doing whatever it is to get the job done.
Speaker 1: The Home Depot, how doers get more done? What's next
Speaker 1: for the Texans here? How attractive is that job? Because
Speaker 1: I don't think it's an attractive job. You know, I
Speaker 1: wonder if JJ Watt will be with the team next year,
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun Watson without weapons. And I think they
Speaker 1: got salary cap issues as well. They don't have any
Speaker 1: draff picks other than that Houston's a nice place to live.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break, we'll talk to Sean Salisbury, we'll
Speaker 1: check in on the Padres coming up Padres and the
Speaker 1: Dodgers starting their series, and Chris Simps from Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk will join us as well. Your phone calls are welcome.
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Speaker 1: All right, Uh so did we settle on the poll question?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, wait, you got a choice. You're a great
Speaker 1: football coach. You have a choice college football coach with
Speaker 1: lifetime security or an NFL head coach. You know, PAULI
Speaker 1: was bringing up all these coaches that, you know, summer lifers.
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer stayed, Tom Osborne stayed at Nebraska. It you know,
Speaker 1: Barry Switzer of course left Oklahoma to coach the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You know, they're there are guys who do I just
Speaker 1: don't see Dabo Sweening being an NFL coach, But I
Speaker 1: don't know his personality is makeup where he's like Hey,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta get to the next level. I
Speaker 1: gotta prove that I can win at the next level.
Speaker 1: If he wants the Alabama job, I guess he gets that.
Speaker 1: If he wants, I would not want to follow. Hello,
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, You've already created your legacy, Derek Clemson. Keep
Speaker 1: adding to it with John Wooden. If he was coaching
Speaker 1: now in successful Now, how long would he stay at UCLA?
Speaker 1: Would he be like three years? And then he'd be
Speaker 1: coaching the Clippers or coaching Portland or something the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Westwood, Yes, mcglub. Maybe Brad Stevens right, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe Coach k did flirt with the Lakers and that
Speaker 1: was eleventh hour where he turned it down, Big flirt.
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury Morning host Sean Salisbury Show. Which is convenient
Speaker 1: that Sean is hosting that on Sports Talk seven ninety
Speaker 1: in Houston. Former NFL quarterback and friend of the show, Sean,
Speaker 1: Good Morning. Why fire Bill O'Brien, Now it had to happen, Dan,
Speaker 1: and I've probably been knowing how tough it is to
Speaker 1: play the position, but also know how and tough it
Speaker 1: is to watch coaches winnings tough, And I've probably been
Speaker 1: a little bit more patient with Bill than most people
Speaker 1: in this city. They've been begging for it for years.
Speaker 1: But what set me off yesterday morning was maybe this
Speaker 1: is the reality, because this is how he feels is
Speaker 1: listening to the press conference after the game, what he said, Hey,
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of great guys and we played
Speaker 1: hard and we didn't give up. It told me it's
Speaker 1: moral victory Monday, and that just getting there's okay. It
Speaker 1: had to happen now because you've got to send a
Speaker 1: loud message not only to your coaches and to this city, Dan,
Speaker 1: but the players are under achieving as well, and I
Speaker 1: think you put them on notice. This is long overdue.
Speaker 1: I don't like to see guys get fired, but it's
Speaker 1: the business. That's why you get paid the big money.
Speaker 1: And just getting there is Cincinnati Bengals was you know
Speaker 1: teams in the past. Getting there's not good enough. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be good enough. And cal McNair was late to
Speaker 1: the party on this. And Bill O'Brien needed to go,
Speaker 1: and they they need a culture change. Jack Easterby needs
Speaker 1: to go too. They need to wipe it clean and
Speaker 1: start fresh. I don't know if the mistake was becoming
Speaker 1: the g M. There Sean, because as a coach, I
Speaker 1: can make an argument, a pretty good argument. Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: was a good coach and he was winning divisions when
Speaker 1: he didn't have good quarterbacks. It's just it felt like
Speaker 1: once he became the GM and then made a couple
Speaker 1: of mistakes, then everybody's sort of piled on Bill O'Brien.
Speaker 1: And I don't know Bill O'Brien. I just I think
Speaker 1: taking the GM role is probably the reason why he's
Speaker 1: not coaching anymore in Houston. Your thoughts, yan, Dan, I agree,
Speaker 1: and I've been preaching that for well since he got
Speaker 1: the gig. And anybody that dangles the GM Carrott, of
Speaker 1: course the head coach is going to take it. Who
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want that power? At least you want some
Speaker 1: say in it. And I can remember with our good
Speaker 1: friend when we were doing Sports Center, Stewart Scott, and
Speaker 1: remember when Mike Holmgren took the GM job in Seattle, Dan,
Speaker 1: when he was coaching as well, he had both And
Speaker 1: I can remember sitting on that set and I told
Speaker 1: Stewart that day, I said, when he decides to give
Speaker 1: up the GM job and goes back to just being
Speaker 1: a coach. Seattle will win again, and I believe the
Speaker 1: next year the year after they were in a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and not a pad on the back. But you
Speaker 1: can't be a doctor and a lawyer. There's only one
Speaker 1: dude that I know can do that, and he's in
Speaker 1: New England. And he also had the best quarterback on
Speaker 1: the planet for twenty years. So it's not a bad gig.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you and Bill like power. And the
Speaker 1: problem is, Dan, I talked to a head coach and
Speaker 1: a coordinator in this league that said, to be a
Speaker 1: position coach, you get about four hours a day to yourself.
Speaker 1: To be a coordinator, you get about two hours a
Speaker 1: day to yourself. To be a head coach, you need
Speaker 1: two or four more hours. Now you add Monday personnel decisions.
Speaker 1: And he also was the play caller for the longest time.
Speaker 1: You just can't do it. And I have not talked
Speaker 1: a one former coach or former front office guy yet
Speaker 1: that thought that anybody could do both great and in
Speaker 1: the process that try to do both. Dan, he became
Speaker 1: average Because I'm with you, he knows exits and knows bills.
Speaker 1: A decent coach. The problem is you lose the focus
Speaker 1: and you lose track or you want to be in
Speaker 1: the fast lane the whole time, and unfortunately their team
Speaker 1: played like they were in the slow lane. Is this
Speaker 1: an attractive job? Yeah? For well, draft picks make an
Speaker 1: unattractive debt, and they've spent the most money on any
Speaker 1: offense in the league, and yet they're about their productions
Speaker 1: one of the lowest in the league. It's attractive for
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons that with cal McNair the owner,
Speaker 1: you and I can go four and twelve and keep
Speaker 1: our job for seven years. You can win divisions and
Speaker 1: keep a job, So there's an overabundance of loyalty and
Speaker 1: kind of stay out of your way. But Dan, as
Speaker 1: you know, trying to find that guy at quarterback's hard
Speaker 1: to do. And when you've got Deshaun Watson who's still
Speaker 1: got to get better, he holds the ball too long
Speaker 1: and he needs to improve, and there's no doubt that'll
Speaker 1: have something to do like with what Greg Roman's done
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson and with Andy Reid and Eric the
Speaker 1: Enemy have done with Patrick Momes to even make them
Speaker 1: better great quarterbacks. Bring out take a six and make
Speaker 1: him an eight and Deshaun's got that DNA. But it's
Speaker 1: an attractive job number one, because if you're not a
Speaker 1: GM right now, you'll take a GM job anywhere, but Houston.
Speaker 1: It's Texas, it's football. You've got some potential. You've got
Speaker 1: a left tackle, it starts there. You got a quarterback,
Speaker 1: it starts there. And if you have the edge, you'd
Speaker 1: have the top three positions. So you've got a quarterback.
Speaker 1: In Any coach or any GM that looks at it
Speaker 1: and says, well, I start there, You're going to go
Speaker 1: through a couple of rough patches, but you already have
Speaker 1: the quarterback in the left tackle sewing up. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: an attractive job, especially if you've got been a GM
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be a first time GM. You working
Speaker 1: in Houston, living in Houston. You know, the Astros success
Speaker 1: here is interesting. You know, I'm following it and I
Speaker 1: always want to hear what they have to say after
Speaker 1: they have a win. And you know, now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Carlo's career is like, hey, what
Speaker 1: are you going to say about us now? Like they
Speaker 1: don't understand how the rest of the country views them,
Speaker 1: Like you're you're not going to erase history and for
Speaker 1: the Astros to feel like somehow it's the media's fault.
Speaker 1: If my thought is when I saw that, hey, all right,
Speaker 1: you beat Oakland, all right, you got to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you had a sub five hundred record. Why did you
Speaker 1: cheat in the first place? If you're so damn good,
Speaker 1: why did you cheat in the first place? So why
Speaker 1: don't they just shut up and play? Take your medicine
Speaker 1: and maybe you get to a World Series. Dan, I
Speaker 1: am with you and living in this town, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's odd, is it? You know this football state?
Speaker 1: Texas is a football state. I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: even with Bill A. Bran Well, people are fired up
Speaker 1: about it. Do you realize that? And I now you do.
Speaker 1: This is an Astros town. It's for whatever reason. And
Speaker 1: there's a sensitivity that goes along with it. I think
Speaker 1: because they think, well everybody else does it, Well, everybody
Speaker 1: else doing it. Still if you're if your oldest child
Speaker 1: does something wrong, it doesn't mean well it's cool if
Speaker 1: by other two or other three do so. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a sensitivity. And I said the other day when Karia
Speaker 1: said it after beating the you know, the twins. There
Speaker 1: comes a point in time you get two ears in
Speaker 1: one mouth, use them accordingly because it's very sensitive there.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a history of you know, we're winning now,
Speaker 1: and we did, we had a bunch one hundred lost seasons.
Speaker 1: But you're right, just I would rather you zip it
Speaker 1: and keep going and play well, because yesterday when they're
Speaker 1: hitting Dan, they're off the hook. They've got this dangerous
Speaker 1: lineup like the Yankees in baseball. But it grates on
Speaker 1: me and I live here because it's like, at some
Speaker 1: point time, remember you made your bed, you got to
Speaker 1: sleep in it, and quite frankly, even though nobody likes COVID,
Speaker 1: you got off the hook a little bit for the
Speaker 1: simple reason is you didn't have to deal with forty
Speaker 1: thousand people roasting you for two straight years. So they're
Speaker 1: able to do it. But I would just assume they
Speaker 1: go win a World Series if they can like this
Speaker 1: and talk about it after not all the way there,
Speaker 1: because hey, you did it, you deal with it, and
Speaker 1: then you got to overcome it, and they're still not
Speaker 1: there just yet, and you've been booed by forty thousand
Speaker 1: people before Dan, I get booed in my own home
Speaker 1: so yes, I actually have by the whole you know,
Speaker 1: you know you you're having a tough tough day when
Speaker 1: you say when people ask you over your career, well,
Speaker 1: did you get booed? You out more by the home
Speaker 1: crowd than the visiting crowd. And the home crowd loves
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback? And you still good. Here's what happened, Dan,
Speaker 1: They say, Sean sas you're going in, rich and certain
Speaker 1: you go in. Then after your first throw they're saying,
Speaker 1: oh God, why didn't we put him in our backup
Speaker 1: quarterback glows? Yeah. So it's the greatest gig in the
Speaker 1: world as long as they don't expose you. But who
Speaker 1: is the best quarterback? Who is the best quarterback? You defeated? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm undefeated against Elway. Just ask me, and I remind John.
Speaker 1: I think I might be the only quarterback in history
Speaker 1: who's undefeated against Steve Young, Brett Farve, and John Elway.
Speaker 1: And that's the truth, honest to god. I got Elway
Speaker 1: in college. And there's one big difference between me and
Speaker 1: those three guys is that they all got buster colored jackets.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, you're listening to you dog me about
Speaker 1: my Winnipeg breakup. But I did. I beat all three
Speaker 1: of those guys, so they're the best I beat. But
Speaker 1: I also lost to some guys. If you say nice
Speaker 1: jod Way to go, you lost that guy? You did
Speaker 1: have those names. Ready, let me tell you some little too. Really,
Speaker 1: Bob Costas carries around Mickey Mantle's baseball card. I got it, laminated,
Speaker 1: I wallet. Hey, oh you wanted to see the highlight shore,
Speaker 1: Let me get that for you. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before, and you played the position. When
Speaker 1: Rogers is playing at a high level, I've never seen
Speaker 1: a quarterback make it look easier. And that includes Montana, Elway, Brady,
Speaker 1: even Mahomes. Now there's something I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: So when you see Rogers when he does it like
Speaker 1: a you know he's I mean, why does he make it?
Speaker 1: How does he make it look so easy? Well? For it,
Speaker 1: doesn't it seem like he's like when he's got something,
Speaker 1: he knows something that the rest of us don't. Yes,
Speaker 1: it does. And Dan, I was fortunate to play in
Speaker 1: the Golden Era. I just wasn't one of them. Marino
Speaker 1: and Ela and Helli and el Farv and Montana and
Speaker 1: you know you started Warren Moon. There's Listen Marino was
Speaker 1: the best pure thrower I ever saw. Joe Namath had
Speaker 1: a great release too, Aaron Rodgers as quickly as it
Speaker 1: comes at Dan it's so. I think it's probably because
Speaker 1: you think he's kind of casual, but there's an intensity
Speaker 1: that goes with him. And I think there's very few
Speaker 1: players at his position that I know take his anger
Speaker 1: and apply it to not only his own coach saying, oh, really,
Speaker 1: you you drafted a coach in the first round, a
Speaker 1: player in the first round. I'm gonna show you why
Speaker 1: he's going to be sitting there for five years. I
Speaker 1: think he bottles it up and nobody imposes his will
Speaker 1: on somebody smoother and better, and it is He's like Fonzie.
Speaker 1: He did. He's like, it's like Arthur fonz and realized,
Speaker 1: like everything's just cool than I do it. But he
Speaker 1: feels like he knows something the rest of us don't.
Speaker 1: But watching him throw a football, I'm not sure in
Speaker 1: the history that I've covered it, played it, or watched it,
Speaker 1: I've seen anybody throw it quicker, smoother and with more
Speaker 1: accuracy and with more confidence on throws. No human being
Speaker 1: has any business to attempt off the ground, on the ground,
Speaker 1: off schedule, on schedule. When he's going like this, there's
Speaker 1: no better player in the world than him and Mahomes
Speaker 1: last night was in a great performance. But I give
Speaker 1: a lot of credit to the game plan there with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and we'd love to say, boy, now we
Speaker 1: have the blueprint here. Well, you have to have Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: That helps with your blueprint. And the secondary is really
Speaker 1: good in New England. Can you see teams because I
Speaker 1: would never blitz Mahomes. I mean, the reason why San
Speaker 1: Francisco was going to win the Super Bowl is they
Speaker 1: weren't blitzing. They didn't have to blitz Mahomes. That front
Speaker 1: four was great, and you put put pressure and then
Speaker 1: keep you know, everybody back build. Basically just said last night,
Speaker 1: I got eight defensive backs. I'm not gonna put any
Speaker 1: pressure on you. We'll blitch you twice. Can you see teams?
Speaker 1: Like my strategy would be, we got to run the ball,
Speaker 1: limit the number of times he gets on the field,
Speaker 1: and then I'm just gonna make you get throw football
Speaker 1: into a tight window. Yes, and hope Dan that your
Speaker 1: quarterback matches him that you got another guy like him
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball that could at
Speaker 1: least score because he's gonna yawn his way to three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And their game planning is so and it's great. It's
Speaker 1: all fine, a dandy, you know, when you got a
Speaker 1: scheme on defense. The problem is they got a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Their fifth guy is better than their
Speaker 1: fifth options like man I wish I had him as
Speaker 1: my one or two option, and Mahomes knows how to
Speaker 1: find him. And the side of a great player is
Speaker 1: when you can take and I've always said this, when
Speaker 1: you're playing a bad game, or by his standards, an
Speaker 1: average game, and you still find ways to win. And
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Dan. The best way with a guy
Speaker 1: like that, if you're gonna play single with their speed,
Speaker 1: he's gonna find the open guy. He can take a
Speaker 1: nine step drop falling back, he can take a three
Speaker 1: step drop. He can throw a screen. They'll bubble at
Speaker 1: the goal line with the bubble screen with the tight end.
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm with you. Peyton Manning used to
Speaker 1: be great at this defensive coordinator. See, they don't believe
Speaker 1: you have enough patience to go eighty yards five times
Speaker 1: in a game, so they'll make you do it. And
Speaker 1: a guy like Manning or Breeze has always said, well,
Speaker 1: I'll match that because I'll be patient. I'll throw the
Speaker 1: check down eight ten times. I'm with you. I can't
Speaker 1: blitz him because if you don't get to him, you're dead.
Speaker 1: So what you do is you make him get to
Speaker 1: the point like all great players do. I threw him
Speaker 1: three checkdowns. I got to force this was then I
Speaker 1: hope you get a tipball interception. I would rush three
Speaker 1: or four, and I would play coverage against him, and
Speaker 1: I hope that you got three or four guys that
Speaker 1: can at least make him move off his spots sometimes.
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Zone, go through your progressions, be patient.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna beat me, you're beating me seventeen to ten.
Speaker 1: I can't let you beat me thirty five to twenty
Speaker 1: one because if they're in that twenty eight points or better,
Speaker 1: there's not a team in football that can touch him.
Speaker 1: Always good to check in with you, Sean. Thanks for
Speaker 1: joining us and we appreciate it. Thank you, by the way,
Speaker 1: Vanilla dipped cone and chocolate. When you take the guys
Speaker 1: to ice cream. That's for me. I'm in m Yeah
Speaker 1: you feel okay? Maybe maybe maybe some sprinkles on it
Speaker 1: took buddy. Fritzie loves sprinkles. Thank you. Sean. That's Sean Salisbury,
Speaker 1: morning host of the Sean Salisbury Show at Sports Talk
Speaker 1: seven ninety in Houston, the former NFL quarterback. We'll see.
Speaker 1: But Fritzie was acting up in the car and I
Speaker 1: just said no. And then everybody got upset at Fritzie
Speaker 1: because you ruin the day that everybody was getting nice
Speaker 1: because you tell us not to eat in the car
Speaker 1: and it's dripping all over the place. And I kind
Speaker 1: of made a little mess when you told it specifically
Speaker 1: not to have ice cream in the car. Yea. So
Speaker 1: we're learning lessons, aren't we. Yeah. I do like sprinkles,
Speaker 1: and that's a good call by it. It's a teaching moment.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like with my kids, sprinkles in the
Speaker 1: little mini chocolate chips on the on the ice cream too. Yes. Point.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll take my kids off for ice cream. My
Speaker 1: wife will say, hey, bring me something back, like it's
Speaker 1: not gonna make it, it's never gonna make it, and
Speaker 1: then she I get back there and it's melted. Shees,
Speaker 1: did you hurry like? I drove exactly as fast as
Speaker 1: I could. Do. You know what I have in my
Speaker 1: Mercedes a cooling air, Yes, come off, an ice cream
Speaker 1: cooling area. You could put ice cream in. There's a
Speaker 1: little like a breadbox refrigerator in there. No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: I swear, I swear. You know, the the middle part
Speaker 1: that you know flops down and you could put drinks
Speaker 1: in it in the backseat. You you behind that. You
Speaker 1: open it up and there is a place that you
Speaker 1: can have beverages there. That's niche. An ice cream cooler
Speaker 1: in a car, Yeah, they've thought, well they don't call
Speaker 1: it an ice cream cool you should. But you could
Speaker 1: put milk back there. You could put a soft drink
Speaker 1: back there. You could put a sir water like James
Speaker 1: Bond stuff right there. That's like the Assid Martin I know.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I know, put that thing down in the middle of
Speaker 1: the seats and I went, what's this. I opened it
Speaker 1: up and I'm like, whoa, you got a couple of
Speaker 1: stogies in there? Now? H Well, no, I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: those in the refrigerator all right, because you don't want
Speaker 1: to keep them that called. But I might have tequila
Speaker 1: back there, right. You know what, Maybe I need a
Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz with a humidor that'd be nice. Maybe half
Speaker 1: Humi and then half refrigerator. Okay, now we're rolling. We'll
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Speaker 1: sent eleven men to the plate in the ninth inning,
Speaker 1: scoring five runs, highlighted by Jim, Carlos Stantonia, and Grand Slam.
Speaker 1: I like, I like Tampa in this series, but you know,
Speaker 1: when you're the Yankees, you get the home runs, you
Speaker 1: get good pitching with Kara cole Um. You know you're
Speaker 1: tough to beat. And you know, don't get me wrong
Speaker 1: about the Astros, Like I'm fascinated with the Astros and
Speaker 1: if they advanced, I'm fine with that. Like I don't
Speaker 1: the further they advanced, the more it makes me question
Speaker 1: why did you do it in the first place? Because
Speaker 1: if you didn't have to do it, then why did
Speaker 1: you do it? And I don't need Carlos Korea saying hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think of us? Now? First of all,
Speaker 1: you beat the Twins in Minnesota. Yeah, oh my bad
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Yeah, a best of three and you beat them.
Speaker 1: But if you said Astros are going to face the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: I'd sign up for that right now. I don't need
Speaker 1: the Yankees. I would sign up for the Astros against
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and a heartbeat, but I don't need any
Speaker 1: of those players, and they really should be on lockdown.
Speaker 1: Let's not say anything, let's not acknowledge any of this.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just go out and play, because you can't
Speaker 1: erase the past. Probably should, Baseball should, but you can't.
Speaker 1: So we live with it. But it's not like you
Speaker 1: can rub it in our faces. Hey, we cheated and
Speaker 1: we sort of got caught, but we get to have
Speaker 1: the World Series trophy and nobody got punished other than
Speaker 1: the manager in the GM, So don't rub it in
Speaker 1: our faces. Then say hey, how do you like us? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: you tell me, because I would have liked you a
Speaker 1: whole lot better if you didn't need to cheat to
Speaker 1: win a World Series and we would still love the
Speaker 1: Astros story. Yeah, Paul, that's a good point, because remember
Speaker 1: al Tube Verland. Everyone liked Kate Upton's They're they're very
Speaker 1: al tube was popular. Who's there everyone's favorite player in
Speaker 1: nation wide? Yeah, and it's Springer, who was a good story.
Speaker 1: You had Correa, who's a really talented shortstop, Bragman, Bregman,
Speaker 1: rubs people along. Work he does, he does. He's sort
Speaker 1: of the Philip Rivers of a third baseman. I think there.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Astros against the Dodgers. I'm all
Speaker 1: about a storyline here, and if they can get there
Speaker 1: and face the Dodgers in the World Series, I'd love that.
Speaker 1: But don't tell me, Hey, how do you like us now?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, Todd, I didn't he already trash
Speaker 1: cans being banged in Minnesota for those two games. They
Speaker 1: find a way to win those games? They weren't. There
Speaker 1: was no special lights in the back of the outfield.
Speaker 1: I didn't see any special audio video messages getting their
Speaker 1: way at your team, Todd. Two wins in Minnesota a
Speaker 1: team that, yeah, does not lose in the playoff twins?
Speaker 1: So they what is that eighteen consecutive playoff losses for
Speaker 1: the eighteen including the suite by the sixty Like they
Speaker 1: somehow went into Minnesota and they pulled out a couple
Speaker 1: of it. Don't tell us what not deserving about there
Speaker 1: showing our World Series? Right? We beat the Twins? You did?
Speaker 1: Did you beat him in Minnesota? Yes, we beat him
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. You gotta be kidding. Two games enough? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm never gonna say anything about you cheating
Speaker 1: to win a war World Series. I think a j.
Speaker 1: Hinch might get a job here next season. The Astros
Speaker 1: manager got fired. He's and Joey Cora the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: you know, former manager. Those guys might get jobs coming
Speaker 1: up next season. I don't know when next season is,
Speaker 1: but uh, that's kind of interesting. All right. We'll check
Speaker 1: in with the Padres coming up next hour. They are
Speaker 1: a long time broadcaster. Former pitcher Mark rand will join us.
Speaker 1: Chris Sims, on loan from NBC Sports, will join us
Speaker 1: in the final hour of the program. McLevin, did you
Speaker 1: settle on a poll question during the first Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're a great editor our football coach, would you rather
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL or lifetime security? With college? Seventy
Speaker 1: eight percent? College? It's their control freaks. I wouldn't understand that.
Speaker 1: But then there's your ego that gets in the way
Speaker 1: and you go, hey, let me go to the NFL
Speaker 1: and be a babysitter there. I'd rather control a program
Speaker 1: like Dabo Sweeney House at Clemson take a break back
Speaker 1: after this