1 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam. 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to deg XAM. I'm Kindannie Stevens. 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: As we get ready for training camp, it's now mandatory 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: mini camp. OTAs are behind us. Brian Sexton and John 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Oser are with me today. We'll get right into big things. 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Early dismissal is our first big thing because while it 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: is normally mandatory mini camp, it's not mandatory for everyone 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: this time around. Does Peterson excusing some of the veterans 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: on this team and some of the other players that 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: have been here during OTAs, So it's mostly rookies and 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: younger players, some working back from injury. 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Brian, why do you think it's so. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Important for Doug Peterson to be able to do this 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Let some of those veterans and earlier players go, those 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: players go earlier. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: Well, it was a couple of didd voice to look 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: at it. How about this angle. 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: The science it's behind training in preparation is so acute. 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 4: I mean, they know exactly what kind of work these 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: guys got done, and because of the technology that they 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: have with a variety of different tools, they know how 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: much work they want to get from each player and 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 4: save their bodies for training camp and into the preseason. 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: They want to be very meticulous about this. So for 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: Doug to get all the work done, all that he 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: needed to get from these guys in phase one, two 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: and three in the OTAs, no reason to take extra 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: pressure on the body and have these guys have to 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: miss some time in August. You got it done, check 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: the box and move on. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 5: I'll look at it the way I look at most 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 5: offseason stuff. They let Trevor go. Beyond that, nobody who 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 5: left was all that important for them to be here 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 5: at OTAs anyway. So, and I'm kidding a little bit, 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 5: but all the guys who left and who were dismissed 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 5: were veterans who had been around all off season, except 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: for like Ronald Darby and Mitch Morris, that their guys 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: had been in the league forever. They'd already been through 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: OTA's what's three more days gonna do? 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: One of the faces that was a veteran that we 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: saw for the first time yesterday our second big thing 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: forty one returns. 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Josh Allen was. 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: In town after training in the off. 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: Season in Arizona. 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: He's back here for mandatory mini camp and he said 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: he's ready to get going. 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 6: I decided to be back. There was a Goodford. Jay 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 6: did the work with some of the young guys. You know, 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 6: let's let them see. You know this is this is 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 6: everybody's the real deal. But this is the real deal 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 6: here and if you want to get to here, come on, John. 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: When you look at this, is there any concern that 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen wasn't here? And do you think he'll be 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: all right with training on the side and then coming 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: in for training camp? 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: Was there any concern that he wasn't to hear a Kai, 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: I think you know me that. No. 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 5: No, he was in the Pro Bowl last year. He 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: did basically the same preparation last year as he did 61 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 5: this year. He's in a elite player. With the elite players, 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: you let them prepare however they need to prepare to 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: get ready to be elite. 64 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: You know, Kui. 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: One of my favorite coaching quotes is from Red Aherbach, 66 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: the great Celtics coach for all those years. He said 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: winning isn't the hardest thing. He said, the hardest thing 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: is wanting to do it again. So you've got a 69 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: guy coming off his best professional season seventeen and a 70 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: half sacks. So I've been very interested in the interaction 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: I've had with him this offseason, including yesterday, to see 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: if he had that I right, if he wanted to 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: do it again, and I didn't get the impression, and 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: maybe you could share your impression. It looks like he 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: is lined up and ready to do the hard stuff, 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: which is to build on seventeen and a half sacks. 77 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he has the ability to not be competitive. 78 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: He talked a little bit yesterday just about the competition 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: he's always had with his sister, who's an athlete in 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: the WNBA. So I don't think Josh lacks that drive whatsoever. 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: I think this contract may motivate him even more than 82 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: what we saw from him last year. So let's check 83 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: out our final big thing. That's training camp. So training 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: camp right aroun on the corner now that we get 85 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: mini camps out of the way and a month away 86 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: is training camp. Brian, When you look at training camp 87 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: this year after the way things ended last year, what's 88 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: a focus that you're hoping the team kind of gets 89 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: into when they get back here for real for training camp. 90 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know we've talked so much. How about bigger, stronger, faster. 91 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: That's obviously what the eyes will show you when we 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: get out there. 93 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: I want to see this communication. 94 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: You know, that's been such a big factor, especially on 95 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: defense with Ryan Nielsen. Carries over when they're wearing helmets 96 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: right when they're out there every day. Are they still 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: communicating because when you talk to these guys, they say 98 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: that was a big breakdown last year on the defensive side. 99 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 4: No one was talking. So can they keep that up? 100 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 4: Can they still be as communicative? Can they get to 101 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: that next level with this defense and be where Ryan 102 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: Nielsen wants them to be by the time the regular 103 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: season starts. 104 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I have two. 105 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: One. 106 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 5: I think everybody wants to see can they run block 107 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 5: in big situations better? 108 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if you see that in training camp 109 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: or not. 110 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 5: We're going to see some run blocking thrilled in training 111 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: camp and we'll all jump to conclusions. 112 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: But until it's third and two Buffalo. 113 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 5: On Monday night, I don't know if you're gonna know it. 114 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 5: So in training camp, let's see if Trevor Lawrence looks 115 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 5: like the Trevor Lawrence that he's looked like so far, 116 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 5: meaning quick decisions, command, all that stuff. I expect that, 117 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 5: but we want to see it. 118 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Yes, and no more hats and shorts, which John will 119 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: be very happy about. 120 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to miss the head, all right. 121 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 6: Stay with us. 122 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit about. 123 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: What we did see at the first day mandatory Mini camp. 124 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: Move the freight. 125 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Move the freight Magellan Transportation, but to the coolest office 126 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: space in Jacksonville. You can apply online at Magellan Logistics 127 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: dot com. 128 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 7: Their attention to detail in the building, their work ethic 129 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 7: in the weight room, you know, how they're competing, you know, 130 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 7: out on the football field, you know, in all really 131 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 7: phase two, phase three, and you know, we've seen a 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 7: lot of positivity there, you know, and in there it's 133 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 7: a good group top to bottom, you know. And so 134 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 7: that's why I think it's good for UH for them 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 7: to get the bulk of the work this week and 136 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 7: then you know, take a little little break and come back, 137 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 7: come back ready to go in July. 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: So Peterson, speaking to the media yesterday kind of sharing 139 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: that when you let some of the veterans go, I 140 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: and focus a little bit more on some of the 141 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: younger guys, So the rookies who have obviously been here 142 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: since Rookie Mini Camp, and then they've been here throughout 143 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: OTAs and then obviously some of those second year players 144 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: we've been talking about. 145 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, two guys who stood out to me yesterday. The 146 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: first guy I saw when I walked in the indoor 147 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: facility was Cooper Hodges and they were firing out from underneath, 148 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: you know, shield something on top to keep him low, 149 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: and just how powerful he was. And he looked you know, 150 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: he looked a little he looked like a lot of 151 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: rookies did last year, Little Dowie. You know, guys are 152 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: they're spending their off season getting ready to go and 153 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: make visits. 154 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: He looked hard. 155 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he looked like he'd spent a lot of 156 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: time in the weight room. He looked really good for 157 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: running around in shorts. And then Ventrel Miller, who yesterday, 158 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: every time I turned around there was fifty one making 159 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: a play in seven on seven and team drill. So 160 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: those are two guys that the coaching staff has their 161 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: hands on right now, John to try to multiply their 162 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: ability to make an impact when training camp in the 163 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: preseason starts. 164 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think for vent Treell specific I think 165 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: Cooper Hodges is going to be on the team as 166 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 5: a swing. 167 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 6: Guard with the idea that. 168 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 5: What they wanted to do with him last year, which 169 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 5: was having on the team and I think ready to 170 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: start this offseason since he was hurt. I don't think 171 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: that worked out. I think that's the plan for him 172 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: this year. Ventrel Miller is a guy in a new 173 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: scheme with very much no depth chart, and I believe 174 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: with the Ventrel Miller he will get an opportunity in 175 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 5: training camp to show that he deserves to be on 176 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: the field. Fourth round pick, This was not a guy 177 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 5: that they drafted to let go. 178 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: In two years. 179 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: They wont him on the field well and off an 180 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: achilles injury, and as you see him moving right there, Yeah, 181 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: it's impressive. 182 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 183 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: I mean, mostly guys with achilles, especially he hadn't been 184 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: a year guy kind of. 185 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: Dragged their leg. 186 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's on that Aaron Rodgers Achilles plan 187 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: that they were talking about coming back so quick now. 188 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Obviously, Ben Trell has been doing great 189 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: with his rehab. He looks explosive, he looks fast, everything 190 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: you want to see out there, and they've made those 191 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: intuations so far that you know he could be out 192 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: there as a starter, especially with Ryan Nielsen's new system. 193 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: So what he's able to do here and what he's 194 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: able to do in training camp will be cool. He'll 195 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: definitely be someone to keep an eye on. As we mentioned, 196 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: those injured players get a little more time. 197 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: Some of the other injured. 198 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Players I saw, Gave Davis, who's been working back from 199 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: an injury as well, was out there today. What I 200 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: wanted to mention was Mac Jones, who actually was running practices. 201 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: The only quarterback that's still here they released. Obviously Trevor 202 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: was here lifting, but as part of the practice yesterday 203 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: mac Jones because just the way that he ran practice 204 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: it felt like a real practice, is what I'll say. 205 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: There's been some OTAs that I are not ots, but 206 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, mini camps we've been a part of, or 207 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: certain OTAs where if the starting quarterback isn't there, it 208 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: doesn't function at all. And I will say, at least 209 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like a practice, which I appreciate. 210 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: So it's it's a bit of a dynamic. I think 211 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: when you look at having a backup quarterback that can 212 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: run some things. 213 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: It helps everyone, right, all these receivers who are trying 214 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: to find a way to make an impact in training camp. 215 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: You know, they've got an NFL caliber starter who's out there. 216 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 4: Same thing, the defense is getting better looks with a 217 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: quarterback who knows what's going on as opposed to an 218 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: undrafted guy from you know, the University of the Pacific 219 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: who's just here for training camp. 220 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: But quarterbacks get hurt just like everybody else. 221 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 5: If Mac Jones is the next guy next year, they 222 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: go into situations when Trevor can't go, which I hope 223 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: never happens, but it you know, you're better there. 224 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 6: So that's an upgrade. 225 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: And if you look back at some of the stuff 226 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: last year where Trevor was hurt maybe kind of came 227 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: back sooner than maybe if he sat out a week, 228 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: you have a Mac Jones who can step in and 229 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: get you a win the whole seasons a little bit there. 230 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: It just makes every one of those reps he's getting, 231 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: you know, these three days, really valuable to him. 232 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: Also, just to look at some of the rookies. 233 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Obviously we've been excited with what we've seen from Brian 234 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Thomas Junior, but is there any other rookies that you've 235 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: seen Brian that you kind of were impressed with? So 236 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: far or even just excited about seeing how they developed well. 237 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: Off the field. 238 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: On Saturday night, I was at a charity event and 239 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to stand next to Mason Smith. 240 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Right. 241 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: We talked about bigger, stronger. You know, he was wearing, 242 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: you know, a sweatshirt and a pair of slacks. 243 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: Just how big he. 244 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: Is, right, I mean you can't necessarily tell it by 245 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: the numbers on a piece of paper, but how wide 246 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: his shoulders are, how big and long his arms are. 247 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: And an impressive kid, I mean, a nice kid. Had 248 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: a nice conversation with him. But when we talk about 249 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: having that size, speed, you know, the traits, he's got them. 250 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 5: You can see him yet on the field. Jerry and 251 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: Jones Jarring Jones, I'm sorry I keep doing that. Sure 252 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 5: looks like he's ready to play, and he looks like 253 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 5: he could play outside, play inside. I'd be surprised if 254 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: come week one that I Jaran Jones. 255 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: It isn't a big factor on the defense. 256 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: Definitely doesn't look scared out there. 257 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: And when you draft guys who are fifty year seniors, uh, 258 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 5: there is a little bit of an element of maturity 259 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: and hey, twenty three, twenty four. 260 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: Years old, it's time to play. 261 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 5: There's not much development time there because you know, once 262 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 5: you've been in the league a couple years. 263 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 6: Now you're twenty seven. 264 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 5: So I think the maturity, uh the age for Jarian Jones, 265 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: I think he's coming at the right time. 266 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, stay with us here on jag Zam coming back. 267 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: We'll have ozone mailbag questions for you and the answers 268 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: from John. 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Fanatics dot Com officially licensed 271 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: everything pleas Own Zone mail bag our final those on 272 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: mail bag because this is our final show until training camp, 273 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: so got to get all the wisdom out of John while. 274 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: We can squeeze it out. 275 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Our first question is about some of the long term 276 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: deals that might be in the works. 277 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: Robin Pittsburgh wants to know. 278 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: Do you think the DAGs will be able to sign 279 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell and Andre Cisco to a long term contract 280 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: if they both have good seasons this year. 281 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 6: Yeah. 282 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: When I answered this in text forms, some fans sort 283 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 5: of I just got mad at my answer that I 284 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 5: think there's a better chance of than signing Tyson Campbell 285 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: long term immediately than Andre Cisco, not necessarily because. 286 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 6: One is that much better a player than the other. 287 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: Some of its positional value, right, I mean, Tyson Campbell 288 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: is a guy who still projects as a big time 289 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 5: player at a big time value position. Is like safety 290 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 5: is a touch just look at the draft, right, I mean, 291 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 5: safety is considered a little easier to find. I think overall, 292 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: when Tyson has been healthy, I think there's a better 293 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 5: chance of getting something done with Tyson in the what 294 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 5: next year, ish before the start of next I mean 295 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: before the start of the next offseason, and Andre Cisco, 296 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: who I think still has to prove a little bit 297 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: consistency in the back end. 298 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: Tyson has to be a higher priority because he plays 299 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: corner and that's been the story this offseason. Do they 300 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: have the players that they can go forward with? In 301 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: Ryan Nielson's defense, And after time to evaluate him, they've 302 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: decided that Campbell's a guy that they want, so they'll 303 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: get something done with him. And you know, the Sommer 304 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 4: Caps takeing some bumps up. Once they get the deal 305 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 4: done with Trevor, they'll have more maneuverability. I wouldn't be 306 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: surprised if something for Cisco doesn't get done. But if 307 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: you're gonna put one in two, it's the corner than 308 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 4: the safety. 309 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: Because safety is such a hard position because it's you know, 310 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: you put value on it, and then when you're building 311 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 5: the roster and you're saying, Okay, we got to have 312 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 5: X Y Z, it's sometimes you know, whatever after Z 313 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: isz zi, So it just sometimes gets kicked down. It's 314 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 5: sort of like running back a little bit, you know bye. 315 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 5: Not fair to the position, but it's sort of the 316 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: way the leak. 317 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Imagine the team's going to try to get something with 318 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Tyson done sooner than later as well, because longer wait 319 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: Tyson he comes and has a great year, it's going 320 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: to get more expensive. 321 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: So our second question is a little bit more general 322 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: about some of the tackling issues. 323 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: I was curious about the discussions concerning poor tackling. Do 324 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: you think it's due to the continued to push for 325 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: player safety or defensive players becoming overly cautious about the tackling. 326 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's an element of this, but I 327 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: don't know that the big picture with tackling is systemic, 328 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 5: with guys pulling off right like, and I think what 329 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: the reader's talking about is you know when you see 330 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: a guy on the sidelines who pulls up or they're 331 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: coming in and they don't want to get a penalty. 332 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: I think we see that at times, but I don't 333 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: think that's systemic and causing poor tackling. I think tackling 334 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 5: in general, especially early in the season, is not as 335 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: good as is late the season because they don't practice it. 336 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: So I don't think it's a bad point that we 337 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: sometimes see weirdness because of players trying to not get penalties. 338 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: But if you have to point to anything, it's the 339 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: fact that there's really only like. 340 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 6: The Jaguars, for. 341 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 5: Example, And I think this is the right way to 342 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 5: do it, by the way, because how the league is, 343 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 5: they might live hit true live hit to the ground 344 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 5: tackling ten minutes a year outside of playing most of 345 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: its thud tackling even in training camp when the pads 346 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: are on, they're not going to the ground, as they say, 347 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 5: so how could it not be a little shoddy compared 348 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 5: to eras when they tackle to the ground. 349 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: Nothing to add there that the thud tackling is the 350 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: best that they can do, and it shows on the field, 351 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: especially early in the season. I will all show take 352 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: more than John. I think you have players thinking a 353 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 4: lot more now. I mean, where can I hit him? 354 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: Where does my head have to be? 355 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: You know? 356 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: How can I move my hips? 357 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: I think that the rules have made guys more cautious, 358 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: and I do think that's impacted tackling. 359 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Sure check out our final ozone question today. I think 360 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: things are finished up. But Bob from Saint Obgusty wants 361 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: to know. Have all the twenty twenty four draft picks 362 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: signed their rookie contracts? 363 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 364 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: And I think the answer is yes, they got him 365 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: done last week Smith signed, I guess Thursday, Brian Thomas 366 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: Friday or. 367 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 6: And the funny thing Brian is when. 368 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: I got this question last week, I wasn't sure right. 369 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 5: And what a difference in ten fifteen years ago, when 370 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 5: the big news was all like first round pickets signed 371 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 5: by now it was. 372 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: Well unheard of. 373 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: I think the last player that we tracked was Blaine 374 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 4: Gabbert because that was the year that they were working 375 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: through the player lockout and one of the deals with 376 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: the new collective Bargain agreement was that they were going 377 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: to have a rookie wage scale and from twenty thirteen 378 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 4: through now, every one of those draft picks we just 379 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: assumed they would be in because their slot was pretty 380 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: much set. There were a couple of little holdouts in 381 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 4: the early years because they were trying to get guaranteed money, 382 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: you know, done just right, or voidable years in the 383 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: contract and things like that, or partial return of signing 384 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 4: bonus for guys. But for the most part, for the 385 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: last eleven years, it's pretty much been decided. 386 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: But it's as it should be now, which is that 387 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: signing these guys is an afterthought and you no longer 388 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 5: have to worry about a guy coming in thirty seven 389 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 5: days after you know, thirty seven day holdouts, risking injury 390 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 5: with that. A lot of times in sports, things go 391 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 5: on forever unfixed. Both sides saw a problem and they 392 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 5: got it fixed, and it got fixed practically overnight, which 393 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 5: you know doesn't always happen. 394 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: It's good to see them all out. 395 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: They're practicing a part of these training camps and OTAs, 396 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: and now the ink on the contracts are official. 397 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: To stay with us around JAGSAM. 398 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after the break to talk about 399 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: training camp upcoming next month. 400 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back to jags Am. We're getting ready for training camp. 401 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: And back Jones just living the dream out there. There 402 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: is no better job than backup quarterback. What's this? 403 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: What's scenerial? 404 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: I'll do for you. 405 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like he's having John. 406 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: Were you dancing on the sidelines. 407 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 6: Too, I was that's what you didn't see. 408 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: There, But you were mirroring each other, right. 409 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 5: But on a serious note, good for Mac Jones. You know, 410 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 5: the storyline is that he comes here to his hometown. 411 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: He's a first round pick, you sort of re set 412 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 5: your career a little bit. I don't know that he'll 413 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 5: be here more than a year, and for his sake, 414 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 5: I think he hopes he isn't. But he seems like 415 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: a fun guy and he's got to be around even 416 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 5: though he went to bolls. 417 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: Well and I'd be dancing a little bit with that 418 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: story this week that came out from Damien Harris, the 419 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 4: running back for the Patriots, who said that it wasn't 420 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: mac Jones' fault what happened last year. 421 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, at least from my 422 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: family and people I know, I think there's a lot 423 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: of understanding in that he wasn't put in a great 424 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: position there's a lot of pressure up there, and obviously 425 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: falling Tom Brady doesn't help. So I hope this is 426 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: a good year for Mac as well. I can get 427 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: back on track and get everything going. He's certainly happier, 428 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: and that's good to say. 429 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: Well, you want good guys in the locker room, it 430 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 4: helps everybody, especially when you have a guy like that 431 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: in your meeting room, a guy like that on your 432 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 4: practice field, on your airplane, it helps everything. 433 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: Well, it's also from his perspective, I've got to think 434 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 5: he's has a chance to be one of the best 435 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 5: thirty two next year. 436 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: Oh so in a little bit, how many quarterbacks do 437 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 4: we see playing last year that you would you didn't 438 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 4: even know their names. 439 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: Because Brown's got to flack off the couch like. 440 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: The people Falcons Vikings game where two quarterbacks that each 441 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: team hadn't had when the season started. 442 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: I mean, so Mac Jones absolutely should get enough. 443 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: And one final thought, you know, if you have to 444 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: come to a place to sort of get reset, you 445 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 5: come to a place where Doug Peterson is the head 446 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 5: coach and Mike McCoy's around, who's been a head coach 447 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 5: pressed it, so good opportunity for a guy to sort 448 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: of take a breath and sake, I'm gonna learn a 449 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: little bit. 450 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: So for really, all. 451 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Right, we've got about a month and a week or 452 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: change off. So what are you guys getting up to? 453 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: Johnny going to the beach? 454 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 5: I go at some point, not sure yet. We're kind 455 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 5: of I kind of wing it, but we'll figure something out. 456 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, You're gonna bring the bucket hat 457 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: back when we get back for training camp, Absolutely right, 458 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: hats will be back. 459 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: Everyone, enjoy your break. 460 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: We are going to take a break here on jag Zam, 461 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: but well we will be back for training camp the 462 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: final week of July. 463 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 2: We'll see you then. Enjoy the summer.