1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is Friday, Matt. It is Playoff Fatday, 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Playoff weekend, Friday. You know when the season started way 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: back when, actually we started way back when, and I 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: mean we've been doing shows all year, but. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Then we could start in Latrobe. I guess, yeah, you know, 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: the official season started. I've been Mini Camp and all 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: that stuff and many shows in between, but you know this. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Was you know, these are the ones you go into 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: these games. Like again, we talked about it last week. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm watching practice today, I'm like, is this the last 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: practice I'm going to see it this year? Now, I 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: got to tell you, just watching the Steelers practice this week, 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: this team's loose. 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: Really, I could see why, you know, I mean we 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 2: had this discussion yesterday. You know that teams don't care 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: about their record at this point. If you're in the show, 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: you're worried about one thing. That's beating the opponent and 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: learning and everything you can about the Bills and improving 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: yourself as a teammate and as a player, et cetera, 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But frankly, the Bills are more 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: pressure on them than the Steelers. Yeah. I mean if 23 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: the Bill's window and I know you're talking, you know, 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: at practice in the mood down there, which is awesome, 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: but the Bills should be a little tight, you know, 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: in that maybe geting the playoffs with high expectations four 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: or five years in a row and haven't quite gotten 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: there and have been real close, and their legacy is 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: a little you know, up in the air. I mean, 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: they better do something the next year or two because 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: that window is not gonna stay open forever. Yeah. 32 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: And the next thing, you know, people start looking at 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen like is he Philip Rivers? 34 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Right, you know, I mean there's been plenty of quarterbacks 36 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: you can look, you can look back at. 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: It that are great but don't get there, that. 38 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Just don't get there. Yeah right, you know, And and 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: I think there is something. 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: Coaching quarterback have to start looking at it so they're like, hey, 41 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: you know, we don't have this isn't going to be 42 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: there forever for us. 43 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I just think that really 44 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: when you look at it, and even Tom Brady went 45 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl early in his career. 46 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was nothing in the middle, right, right, 47 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: and then late. 48 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's mean John Elway got there early in his career, 49 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: nothing in the middle and the season. Yeah, there's a 50 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: lot of that kind of stuff in the league because 51 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: I think that middle period is when you have to 52 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: pay the quarterback a gad jillion dollars. 53 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: And expectations are through the roof. And might Mahomes even 54 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: be that guy? Might Might we see five eight years 55 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: where he never goes or he never goes back, you know, 56 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: like one unbelievable part of his career. 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: Nobody would look at it this year. If if Mahomes 58 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: didn't make the Super Bowl this year or even the 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: AFC Championship, people looking to go, well he had they 60 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: had a down year. 61 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: But that might be the beginning of the next eight 62 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: down years, right, you know. I mean it's hard. They're 63 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: still good, yeah, but they're not good good and the Bills, 64 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: I mean the days of buying Von Miller are over. 65 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean they had to win the last week of 66 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the season or they were the seventh seed, and we. 67 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Have many discussions for the last couple of months, like, boy, 68 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: this team's good, but I don't know they can get 69 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. That's the thing. 70 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, So this is a we know that it's 71 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: a ten point spread in this game. 72 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it still seems high to me. 73 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: But which seems high because when again, when you think 74 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: about it, the Bills had to win last week in Miami. 75 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: They get this home game. 76 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Right right? No, I agree. I mean, seems been playing playoffs. 77 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: They've got one more win than the Steelers this year. 78 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: This isn't a twelve and you know, a twelve and 79 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: five team playing a seven and you know ten team 80 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: or an eight and nine team. 81 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm right, And frankly, you know we broke 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: down the rosters quarterback aside, they're pretty equal all in all. 83 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: I mean, home field's a I'm not sure even an advantage. 84 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean sure, think about that though. 85 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: Man, they lost to the Bengals last year, right in 86 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: a bad weather game up there, twenty seven to ten. 87 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: They got smoked, They got p pretty bad. 88 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't handle the weather well, and we talked, 89 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: we talked about it all week long. They're not built 90 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: to play that style of football in the kind of weather. 91 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: No, I do think first off, yes, there'll be a 92 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: home field advantage and that crowd is going to be 93 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: bombed it's going to be and. 94 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Yell that, assuming they can get to the to the stadium. 95 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: Right and jump through their tables and do all their stuff. 96 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: So that's gonna be you know here, you know that's 97 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: that atmosphere will be difficult on the Steelers, But the 98 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: weather is an evening factor. To me back to Bill's 99 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: team building. I think that loss opened their eyes a 100 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: little bit, you know. But you can't get the inventor, right. 101 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: I mean, they drafted they were the heaviest eleven team 102 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: in the league. So they take a tight end in 103 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: the first round. Even though he's a moved tight end, 104 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: it still makes you bigger. You know, you're gonna play 105 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: a lot more twelve second round, they take a mashing guard, 106 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: you know. So I think they realized sort of the 107 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: error in the ways they were built. But you're still 108 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: not gonna you're super successful. You're not gonna say, well, 109 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna stop playing nickel all the time, right we 110 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: keep winning games. 111 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: You still have to be at the end of the day, 112 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: we still have to be able to beat Kansas City. 113 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Right, And it doesn't mean you're gonna draft a bunch 114 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: of nose tackles, you know. 115 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean but because they're not gonna they're gonna be 116 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines during against the Chiefs. 117 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean, because you are winning a lot of games. 118 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: It's a successful formula. You just haven't won the game, 119 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: you know, So it's catch and at. 120 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: Some point, winning the game, when you've got that kind 121 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: of talent becomes the all encompassing thing. 122 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question. Yeah. I mean if that team 123 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: doesn't win a super Bowl, especially in that town that's 124 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: never had one, you know, like they're gonna be considered close, right, 125 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: you know, all those years close. Like I don't think 126 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: the Kelly teams were considered a disappointment, But if this 127 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: one never gets to the super Bowl, it's gonna be 128 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: a lot of what ifs. You know, you're like, yeah, 129 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: they were good, but it should have been better. Man. 130 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: That's just how people remember it. I mean it's rough. Yeah. 131 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: So the pressure is clearly on the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, 132 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: in this game, and and you know, I just look 133 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: at the way this the way the Steelers are. 134 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: Acting, Yeah, that's interesting to me. I mean they're looseing 135 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: fun and not tight down. 136 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: I think they feel very confident. It's ten point underdogs, 137 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's crazy, but yeah, you know, I 138 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't know that I've seen that, you know, 139 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: in some other playoff I mean, put it to I've covered. 140 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: I mean, You've been around for a lot of playoff games. 141 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I've covered two seasons worth of playoff games. I've covered 142 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: like thirty three playoff games in which the Steelers were involved. 143 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's insane. 144 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: You were nearby leading up to every one of them. 145 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah, you know, at practices obviously, press conferences, 146 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: things of that nature. Yeah. Yeah, And this seems like 147 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: one of the ones that are just the loosest. I mean, 148 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: like they're confident, happy, you know, not stiff and boring. Yeah. 149 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever seen them tight, but 150 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that i've ever seen them this loose. 151 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: I think that's a good sign. 152 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Mike Tomlin must be doing 153 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: something right with his team in terms of just pushing 154 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: the right I you know, he gave them the whole 155 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: scare money don't make money speech a few weeks ago, 156 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: and I think they're just they've taken that to heart. 157 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I really think that's his greatest strength 158 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: is those type of things, knowing people more so than 159 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: you know, a game day coach or the best schemer. 160 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: Like I think his legacy what shoud been thinking a 161 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: lot about coaches legacies with Carrol and Belichick and these 162 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: guys hanging it up in the same day and Saban 163 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: and all these all time greats all of a sudden 164 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: that aren't going to be where they've been or coaching 165 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: at all. That I do think Tomlin, when his legacy 166 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: is finally written, will be boy, he handled his team. 167 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: He handled people really really well. Yeah, I mean that's 168 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: his greatest strength. 169 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's knowing which buttons to push at what time. 170 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: This is a young team, yeah, which is on which 171 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of these players don't have 172 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: any or a ton if any playoff. 173 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: Except I say a thing, and I wonder how what 174 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: percentage of the team has never played a playoff game. 175 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: But they were very cognizant when they were acquiring free 176 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: agents in the offseason of getting guys who yeah, Land 177 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: and Roberts right right, you know those guys are all 178 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: you know. Patrick Peterson's played in you know, playoff games 179 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: and stuff, even though he hasn't won the big one 180 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: of acquire guys that have played in these kind of 181 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: stages before. 182 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, some veteran leaders that have won games. Yeah, I 183 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: think there's something be said for that. 184 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: And I know, you know, Eddie Falk said yesterday that 185 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: did he asked Isaac Samlo to get up during the 186 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: offensive team meeting and just talk to the players about, Hey, 187 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: this is what to expect, this is what it's about. 188 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, this is winner go home. Yeah. Yeah, and 189 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: I really think too. In camp. 190 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: He's not the most verbal. Yeah, but you know, you 191 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: hear Cam Hayward talk about it a couple of weeks ago, 192 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: how this win and get in or this this winning 193 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: every week thing that they needed to do. You know, 194 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: when you get guys from Georgia and Alabama in places 195 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: like that where you know, every win is magnified, every 196 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: loss is magnified because it can knock you out of 197 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: the the playoff chase, those guys understand that. 198 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Georgia guys coming lately that sort 199 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah, I think there's something to be said 200 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: for that, for sure. And I think this is an 201 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: advantage for both teams. They've both been playing basically play 202 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: off football for a while now. Yeah, you know, I 203 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: had this mentality. It's not hey, I'm gonnaarrest everybody last week. 204 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean, like the Chiefs and some of these teams 205 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: that had nothing to play for last week. I only 206 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: know it makes you worse, but I do think that 207 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: you're in the mentality of it's been winner go home 208 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: basically for a while now. For both these teams. 209 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Steelers this year ten and seven against 210 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: the spread. 211 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they've won a lot of close games. 212 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: They beat teams that had Because we were talking about 213 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: off the air, I mean, their record against teams that 214 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: had a winning record is one of the best ever. 215 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had. So they're eight and five record this 216 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: year against teams that finished above five hundred. Yeah, okay, 217 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: you really can't any really hard to finish at five hundred. 218 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: It has to be a tie involved. So teams with 219 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: winning records this year they win eight and five. That's 220 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: the third best record all time. That's amazing against teams 221 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: with winning records. The other two teams that have the 222 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: two teams ahead of them that had the best record 223 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: were this year's Ravens and this year's forty nine Er. 224 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: Amazing because there were more. 225 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: Teams this year. 226 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of they're nineteen teams in the league 227 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: that had winning records this year, but. 228 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: The fact you played thirteen out in seventeen games against 229 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: teams that finished with a winning record, too, is something 230 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: to be said for that. I mean, I've been stressing 231 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: that they've played like the third hardest group of defenses 232 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: in the league, but they've played one of the hardest 233 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: schedules in the Yeah. 234 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: When you know, I mean you look at the you know, 235 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: one of the one of those teams was the Raiders. 236 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: They won eight games, they were eight nine, they finished 237 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: second in their division. Okay, you're the ones that weren't 238 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: the ones that weren't yeah yeah, yeah, you know one 239 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: was against the Titans winning it. 240 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah they were one yeah. Okay, yeah. 241 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: So it's you know, they've played a tough schedules. I 242 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: think the Bills are like, what did you say, four 243 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: and one against playoff teams this year. 244 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers are five and three to five and three, right, 245 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: I mean they only played. 246 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: They played half their games against playoff teams. 247 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and more than against teams that ended up over 248 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: five hundred. Yeah. 249 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: So they they've been in these situations. You could argue 250 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: that they're the more battle tested team this season. 251 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I think you know you. 252 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: People will want to point, well, you know, the the 253 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: the Bills. You know, they played Kansas City, and they 254 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: played Cincinnati, and they played you know, you know that 255 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: Dallas a. 256 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: Game stuff of the preseason looked harder. 257 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Steelers played the Ravens twice, split with the Browns. 258 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: They played pretty good. 259 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: They played San Francisco and now they lost that game handily, 260 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: but they played them. You know, they've they've tested themselves 261 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: against some of these other playoff teams. 262 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: It's funny, like I am a big believer in looking 263 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: at schedules before the season and basing it off you know, 264 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: wind totals from Vegas and whatnot. But everyone thought, boy 265 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: AFC East has a murderer's row. Really when Rogers starts 266 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: on the first five plays of the game, and you know, 267 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean Patriots aren't really competitive like they usually. 268 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: And they played they matched up against the East this year. 269 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: The NFC East people were people were counting the Giants 270 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: as a as a good team. 271 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were a playoff team last year. 272 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: The last the last Bills lost came against that Eagles team. 273 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. 274 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: Plus Washington's like existence. Yeah, they three months. 275 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but their last loss came against Philadelphia. Well then 276 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: not exactly A no, it's not. 277 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't look as good now as it did. 278 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: I think that was Philadelphia's That was their tenth win 279 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: at that point. They won one more time after that. 280 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: They're rough shape, really rough shape. But and the Bills haven't. 281 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: They're on a nice winning streak, but they haven't mowed 282 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: everybody down either. They've I hesitate to say that they're 283 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: the hottest team in the league coming in the playoffs. 284 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: I don't think they are. I think Baltimore is. Yeah, 285 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: I mean in terms of, you know, beating good teams badly, 286 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, you know. But but I give all the 287 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 2: crowd in the world, they're a very good football team. 288 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 2: I think they're capable beating anybody. 289 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point you know that what 290 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: everything can happened in the regular it doesn't matter. 291 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: No, no, it's a clean slate. 292 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: Everybody's oh and oh, and you just play the games. 293 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: And you just play the games. And it's crazy week 294 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: of prep and I'm sure they can't wait to see 295 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: get there and be like, this is what the weather 296 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: actually is going to look like, as opposed to guessing 297 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: what you're going to deal with and all those type 298 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: of things. But again, they're loose. They're happy to be 299 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: there to take advantage of it, and I'm sure they're 300 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: not going to hold anything in, you know. I mean, 301 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: I would be shocked. I don't expect in a super 302 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: aggressive game plan, but I wouldn't be blown away if 303 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Tomlin does something out of the ordinary, surprise on side 304 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: or something goofy like that at some point, you know, 305 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: like we got a shot, you know, any little steel 306 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: possession here would go a long way. Yeah, thanks, Honor, 307 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: you know something goofy. 308 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening 309 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 310 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: back with more right after this. 311 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. 312 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive 313 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and the Matt the All Pro 314 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: teams announced. 315 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: Today, or I didn't see that TJ. 316 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Watt name first Team All Pro as an edge rusher. 317 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: You would think that's a slam dunk, but it's not. 318 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: Then it shouldn't be. I mean, I mean, I'm glad 319 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: that he got that. 320 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: That's I was surprised Miles Garrett got more votes. 321 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: Than he did. Really, is that a fan thing or no, 322 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: that's from. 323 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: The writers in the media, and yeah, you know, and 324 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: it's different now. 325 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: It used to be just the writers. 326 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: They've expanded this thing to this thing now. So it's 327 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: fifty voters and like a lot of them are on 328 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: serious XM and guys like, you know, there's no voter 329 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Yes, said's still no voter in Pittsburgh. And 330 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think Cleveland has a couple, I believe. 331 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: So that's not the reason why Miles Garrett. 332 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: No, no, you finished with more player. 333 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know how you how you you put 334 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: Garrett on your list and then don't put Watt on 335 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,119 Speaker 1: the list. 336 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: So okay, you were saying, Oh, I mean I could 337 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: see putting Watt on and I put Garrett on too. 338 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, see, I couldn't. 339 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: I think they're but this is almost to me, and 340 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: it's it's it's a. 341 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Little different than the Paula mallow Ed Reid thing. They're 342 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: both safeties, yeah, but they played two different positions and 343 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: they are different styles, but in some ways it is 344 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of like that. Yeah, because Garrett's really a defensive 345 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: end and what's really an outside linebacker. Michael Parsons and TJ. 346 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Watt are closer in play style, yes, and Miles, Miles 347 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Garrett is. Miles Garrett and Max Crosby are closer in 348 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: play style than what and Parsons. 349 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: I mean they always have their hand on the ground there, Yeah, 350 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: four to three n type. 351 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: Whereas right you you know, Parsons and Watt will drop 352 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: in the coverage fair. 353 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, much more than those guys. No, that's true. 354 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: But if you have to pick two, I could see 355 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: any any combination really of those three Parsons, Watt and 356 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: Garrett and understand it. 357 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: But one guy led to the league in sacks and 358 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: the other the other did not. 359 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: Oh you don't convince me. I mean, what would be 360 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: my first pick of the group. 361 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: But Garrett had one sack in the last. 362 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Six weeks of the season. It's amazing one sack I saw. 363 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: But he does shock me that he's still the leader 364 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: in terms of crazy Player of the. 365 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: Year, like Pro Football Focus put out or Pro Football 366 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: Talk I should say put out their their all pro 367 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: list today and or their Defensive Player of the Year list. 368 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: I think I should say they're there, their staff vote 369 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: and they gave it the Garrett and they said what 370 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: came on late in the season. I would argue what 371 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: led the league in sacks from week one through the 372 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: end of the season. 373 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: He was never not in. 374 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: The top two and in the league in sacks. I 375 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: would even say it's incredibly consistent. 376 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: There was a stretch there of about five games when 377 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: the ball was coming out so fast against the Steelers 378 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: that it was harder for him to be impactful. Yeah, 379 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: like I don't agree. I would never have said that statement. 380 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: It was. It was. 381 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: It's one of the dumbest things I've ever read, Like, 382 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: how do you say that TJ want who he had 383 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: two sacks in the opener against against. 384 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: Leaders from from day one to finish. 385 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Right and led and then pulled away at the end 386 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: like these guys weren't close. 387 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: No, No, just because Garrett didn't get any in one 388 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 2: in six weeks doesn't mean what picked things up at 389 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: the end. No. 390 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I just kept continue to do what he had been doing. 391 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: I remember reading the article at mid season, you know 392 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: who has a chance to break the all time sack 393 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: record and what you know, it was on pace to 394 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: to be close to it at that point. 395 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: So was Garrett as a hunter in Minnesota at that 396 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: point was moving along. 397 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Well, those guys were all close as well. 398 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: They all fell off. They fell off what continued to 399 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: produce week in and week out without question? No, I 400 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: hear it. I mean, so any other Steelers on the 401 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl list, are you gonna go through the whole 402 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: thing or. 403 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: We can go through it all. Quarterback it was Lamar 404 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Jackson first first, I'll read you the first teamers first, 405 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: and yeah, so Lamar Jackson and Dak Prescott. 406 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I think that's fair. 407 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: At running back it was Christian McCaffrey and Karen Williams. 408 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think Williams deserved that. 409 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: At full back, Kyle Yushek and Patrick. 410 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: Rickard they're like the only two out there. But here 411 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: is Ricard still a fullback? Yeah, I mean he doesn't. 412 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: He's on a lineman. Yeah, he's getting car he's either. 413 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, that fris fullback even has a spot. 414 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: A wide receiver, it was Tyreek Hill, Ceedee Lamb and 415 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: they doubt now designate a slot a'mn ross Saint Brown. 416 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: Okay, the first two I think are pretty easy. Yeah. 417 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: The second team was Pooka, Nkua, Brandon Ayuk, slash Mike Evans. 418 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: They tied. 419 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Oh no, they were the other slots A J. 420 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: Brown, Pookaka, Brandon Ayuk. 421 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: Mike Evans. Still, Lamb and Hill were a distance above 422 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: everybody else. 423 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, tight end, this might surprise you. M George Kittle 424 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: really with Laporta as the second teamer. 425 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: Okay, it shouldn't be Kelsey. 426 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: No, he didn't have He didn't have the impactful year. 427 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: And Kittle actually stayed healthy this year. 428 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he's a really good player. He has 429 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: those ups and downs, but that's not always his fault. 430 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: At left tackle is Trent Williams and Tyron Smith. 431 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Smith stay healthy, that's huge. 432 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: At left guard Joe Thoney and Tyler Smith. 433 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Tyler Smith's a star in the making. He's a 434 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: really good player. 435 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Center was Jason Kelcey and Frank Ragnow right. 436 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: Now stayed healthy. Okay. Yeah. Right guard was Zach Martin 437 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: and Chris Lindstrom. Okay, Lindstrom's established themselves one of the 438 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: best guards in the league. 439 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: Right tackle was Piney Sewell and then Lane Johnson. 440 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: Those are all the names you'd expect. Yeah, and Johnson 441 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: missed some games, didn't he. I don't know. I've said 442 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: you're thinking that too. If so, not many. 443 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: As I mentioned that Edgie was Miles Garrett, Michah Parson's 444 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: TJ Want, Max Crosby. Okay, interior defensive lineman. You had 445 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and Chris Jones, backed by Justin Matta Buquet 446 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: and Dexter. 447 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: Lawrence to hip. Lawrence is somewhere on that list. I'm 448 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: glad Manabouk got some credit to a little bit of 449 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: a down year for that group. 450 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Linebackers were Fred Warren, Rokwan Smith, Quincy Williams, backed 451 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: by de Mario Davis, Bobby Wagner, Patrick. 452 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: Queen, Queen and Wagner. I don't think belong I don't 453 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: think they belong here. Yeah, the other one, I mean 454 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: Quincy Williams. I shocked his name came up, but he 455 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: deserves it. He's flew around the field this year. Yeah. 456 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Cornerback Deron Bland Sauce Gardner and this they designated the 457 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: slot cornerback this year. 458 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: That was Trent McDuffie. I have a problem with Bland. 459 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: I mean Certain's a better player. I mean, there's a 460 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: lot of better players, but Certain didn't even make the 461 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: second team. 462 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: Then the second teamers were Jalen Johnson, Charvarius Ward, and 463 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: tarn Johnson, who the Steelers will see this weekend. Tarron 464 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Johnson's the only bill on this list. 465 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: Ah, interesting, I assume Wat's the only Steeler two. But yeah, not, 466 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: We're not. We're not done, all right. 467 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: The safeties Kyle Hamilton and Antoine Winfield Good Good, backed 468 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: up by Jesse Bates. 469 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: And Justin Simmons. Strong group yea. 470 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: The kickers Brendan Aubrey and Jake Elliott. The partners AJ 471 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: Cole and Brian Anger. 472 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: I wouldn't know those guys. 473 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Kick returner Keyshawn Nixon and Marvin Mims uh punt returner 474 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed and Darius Davis. Special teamer Miles Miles Killer 475 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: Brew and Jalen Reeves. Mayben Good for Miles Killibre. 476 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like he's starting to get the It's 477 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: always a year or two late with those dudes, you know, 478 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: and you maybe even hang on longer, and you. 479 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Should blocked one kick and deflected another, and he was 480 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: I think he'd ended up second or third in the 481 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: league in special teams tackles, which. 482 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: That's great that people are finally realizing that he's great 483 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: at what he does. Yeah, that's cool. And then the 484 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: long snappers, I don't know how you pick. 485 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: Thats Ross Matistic from Jacksonville and Andrew de Paola from Minnesota. 486 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how any I wouldn't want to be 487 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: the voter for that one. No, how you do that. 488 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 2: I mean, punters are hard enough for me. 489 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody had to talk to him all season long. 490 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: That's how you do that. 491 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: If you didn't have to talk to the long snapper, 492 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: he didn't screw anything up. 493 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, not an easy selection there, Or. 494 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: You just go to you go to What you do 495 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: is if you cover a team, you go to the 496 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: special teams coach, you say, hey, who the hell's the 497 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: best long snapper in the league. 498 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Maybe there's just a four gone conclusion. Everybody knows that 499 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: there's a stude. Maybe there is. 500 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: I've never heard of either one. 501 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: I think I know the name of one long slapper 502 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: the league, just because we happen to be deal with them, 503 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, we after a week. 504 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I don't know a lot of 505 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: calms to that list, though. 506 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Winfield's a free agent. I don't think he's 507 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: going to hit the open market, and so is Johnson. 508 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: Those are two. 509 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, Yeah, be. 510 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: Shocked if he doesn't come back in some way. 511 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: But they can't afford everybody. They can't see ceedee Lamb 512 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: out there banging the drum. And he wants to be 513 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receiver in the league. 514 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: I didn't hear that either, but I could see why 515 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: he would say that. 516 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're gonna have to sign Parsons like you gotta. 517 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: I think Dak's contracts starting to he signed his like 518 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: two or three years. I think I heard. I heard. 519 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: I was listening to a show and they said that Prescott, 520 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: they're probably going to have to redo the contract. I 521 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: knew there's some kind of contract stuff coming up. Okay, yeah, 522 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: I can't you know. And Tyler Smith. You know, they 523 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: essentially draw to him to be tyrants to be Tyron 524 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: Smith's replacement. 525 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: And he has played some tackle, but he's been a 526 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: dominant guard. I don't know why you'd move him now. 527 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a big, physical, pile moving guy. I 528 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: mean they had two Pro Bowl guards and a Pro 529 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Bowl tackle. 530 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is the list though that when you 531 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: start talking Hall of Fame stuff, this is the one 532 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: that matters. 533 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: So t J. 534 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: Watt is He's first team for the fourth time really 535 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: in his seven year career. 536 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: Wow. 537 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: I believe the only other Steelers to do that in 538 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: history Rod Woodson and Jack Camp. 539 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: Really four time Pro Bowl or All Pro? 540 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, four time first team All Pro. 541 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: You wouldn't think it'd be that rare. I mean, that's 542 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: a big time accomplishment. 543 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: Talking about the best in the yeah, right. 544 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: I mean they picked two or you'll pick one tight 545 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: end or you know, I mean, like I wonder how 546 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: many times Gronk was or Kelsey or I mean some 547 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: of these one position teams or who's the all time 548 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: leader in Pro Bowls or All Pro votes ever? You know, 549 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's kind of surprising. There's only 550 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: been three Steelers hit four. 551 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: In their first seven years. 552 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: Oh I thought that might ever. Okay, so like maybe 553 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: a Joe Green or somebody like, yeah, got there, I got. 554 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: To do it in your first seven years, get four 555 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: of them. 556 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable, yeah, company, Oh really tough tough to do. 557 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: So that's understood. That's the All. 558 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Pro h the only unanimous first team selections where Christian McCaffrey, 559 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill, and Fred Warner. 560 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't argue with any of them. Yeah. I 561 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: thought you'd say, Lamar, but quarterbacks are tough. Aaron Donald's 562 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: down eight time? Wow? All Pro? Okay, he's getting up there. Yeah, 563 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: that's got to be close to one of the all 564 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 2: time leaders. Wow. Yeah. A lot of Hall of famers 565 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: on that list, A lot a lot of guys. Guys 566 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: are making Hall of Fame case. 567 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: When you're talking about Hall of Fame again, when you 568 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: talk about that Hall of Fame monitor, this is one 569 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: of the things that's considered in that where the first 570 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: team All Pro. You know, I imagine when we look at 571 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame monitor on Pro Football Reference in 572 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: a couple of days here, which I might add, what 573 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: is like twenty five points ahead of Miles Garrett. 574 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: Getting on that thing. He's just I don't think we 575 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: looked at it. 576 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: He might be able if he never played another game. 577 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 2: I think he's in. 578 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: I think he's in. 579 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: Too, I really do. I was asked the other day, 580 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: where do you rank him on all time Steeler defensive 581 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: Player list, and I'm like, well, I'll put seventy five 582 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: to one. I'm a big blunt two guy. Then I'm thinking. 583 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: About it a top five somewhere. 584 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can fight about it and go back and forth. 585 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: And oh, he doesn't have four rings. That's like the 586 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: only thing he can say bad. 587 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: All those other guys all played together. Yeah, right, if 588 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: he was on that team, they'd have him pretty damn good. 589 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think Woodson and Hammer right there too. 590 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 2: But that's the company he's keeping right now on like 591 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: the best defensive group of any team in the league, 592 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: you know, history historically. 593 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: So I was watching him today at practice working out. 594 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: Maybe they shouldn't have ruled him out. Huh. 595 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: He's working hard to uh get back. Let's just put 596 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: it that way. 597 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you said yesterday you were shocked how well he 598 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: was just moving around the locker room, and you know, so, you. 599 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Know, I think I think Mike Tomlin ruled him out 600 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: to protect him from himself. 601 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: It sounded like that even happened in the game. 602 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: Because yeah, because if if I think it was up 603 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: the Watt, he'd be. 604 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: Playing in this game. I bet it's frustrated, But understand, 605 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm not like unhappy. But I bet he's thinking I 606 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: could give you twelve pass rush STAPs in the game 607 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: or something. 608 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: Wow, but on a slick turf. And you know it's 609 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: the same thing with like Mega Fitzpatrick last week. Hey 610 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: could make a Fitzpatrick have played last week in Baltimore. 611 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: Certainly if that truly was a playoff game, you think 612 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: he would. 613 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Have Yeah, okay, but I think on that surface they 614 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: looked at it and said, hey, we would rather you 615 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: wait another week. He might not have him now, yeah, 616 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: because he might have you start going one way and 617 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: you know you're slipping in the knee buckles because it's 618 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: not quite stable yet. 619 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: Sure, I would think groins and ankles and all those 620 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: type of things going to be unstable here. 621 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's get to another break. Yeah, absolutely so. 622 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: I do believe if the Steelers win this game, I 623 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: think there's a better than fifty to fifty percent chance 624 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: he plays. 625 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: Next weekend in both amazing, So good for him. 626 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: Let's get to a break. 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I know a lot of 636 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: talk surrounding this game on Sunday at one o'clock against 637 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers at Bills in the playoffs is starting to 638 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: center more and more on the weather. I think it's funny. 639 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't think nationally people didn't understand what this was 640 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: going to be. 641 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: I think everyone saw my Kansas City was. 642 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, only in Pittsburgh and Buffalo have they been talking 643 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: about the weather in this game all week long? You see, 644 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: like the predictions out there for this game game played 645 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: in the thirties or twenty you know, twenties and thirties 646 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. 647 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: No, there's no chance, you know. Like, with all respect 648 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: to my co host on my podcast, you know he's 649 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: the West Coast guy, and we had this discussion today, 650 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, I, you don't. Nobody seems to realize how 651 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: extreme this is. He's like, Wow, I didn't know it 652 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: was going to be that bad. It's just on the 653 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: information the rest of the country seems to be getting 654 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: about this game. Everyone's talking abou Kansas City. Oh, it's 655 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: going to be cold in Kansas City. I mean, it's 656 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: gonna be like minus twenty wins show we're getting handled them, 657 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: and that's crazy. It's cold. 658 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: I've been in Kansas City when it's been cold before. 659 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: But I mean the weather or the snow and especially 660 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: the wind in this game, no one seems to be 661 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: talking about. I've listened to I listen to podcasts all 662 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: day every day, and lately, you know, late in the week, 663 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: people are picking up giving their picks and things like 664 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't think the weather will be that big a 665 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: deal in this game comes out of like everyone's mouth. 666 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the betting public or whatever 667 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: doesn't realize how I mean, I'm sure Vegas is on it. 668 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they know they know this stuff. But 669 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, just give me the over, nothing 670 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: to it. I don't think you know what you're getting into. 671 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: I'll take that you give me, I'm gonna lay the 672 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: ten points because Buffalo is gonna blow them out. 673 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 2: Oh they'll get the thirty easy. Yeah, you know it does. 674 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: I'm not till there's nothing to do with the Steelers. 675 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody can get the thirty in a 676 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: game like that. I'm really Josh Allen. 677 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: He'll be able to throw the football, no problem in 678 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: that way, problem, no problem. 679 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: Forty hours and what is the latest? I mean, it 680 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: seems like it changes all it's changed constantly. But yeah, 681 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get worse. 682 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: You can expect thirty mile hour at minimum, thirty mile 683 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: hour wins with or no steady thirty hour wins. And 684 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: they're talking now. 685 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: Like eighteen's a lot, Yeah, I mean a lot, a lot. Yeah. 686 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Then now they're talking about the last thing that I 687 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: saw was eighteen inches of snow in Orchard Park, New York. 688 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: So some people might have listened inches the motes unless 689 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: you know earlier, and I guess they talked about this, 690 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 2: but Motes played for both these teams. And we were 691 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: walking out of the studio and or we were walking 692 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: in the studio. He was walking out and he's like 693 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: there was a time. I mean, he had to get 694 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: a new car for one thing. When he moved up there. 695 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: He's like, there was you were talking where than I was. 696 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: He's like, it snowed twenty four inches in like an hour. Yeah, 697 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, like that's kind of stuff could happen at kickoff, 698 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, or little slightly before or who can get 699 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: there and man the win thing though at least you 700 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: can keep the field probably somewhat maintained. Maybe, I mean, 701 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: it's still gonna be bad. But the wind, if it's 702 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: a constant thirty or even a constant twenty, greatly affects 703 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: the game, let alone the gusts. 704 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it could be a game that people 705 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: will talk about, yeah, for a long long time. Yeah, 706 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: it could be one of those kind of games. And 707 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: in those kind of games. 708 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: The teak it makes it much more of a coin flip. 709 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: It makes it much more the more physical team will 710 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: win this football game. 711 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: Whoever handles the element, Yeah, you know, and however, it 712 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: is the best way to do that, not mistackles, secure 713 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: the football, you know, again, be more physical to the line 714 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Maybe, like maybe James I'm just hypothetically and 715 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: maybe James Cook or George Pickens moves better in this 716 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: stuff than most people do. They've theyve ever done it 717 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: before in their life. Who knows, you know what I mean, 718 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Like all athletes are different. It might be a guy 719 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: out there that's cutting like you know, like there's nothing wrong. 720 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: Who knows? I mean, Gail Sayers. I'm just I just 721 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: know weirdness is going to happen. 722 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: I will say this. One team practiced indoors all week. 723 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: The other team practiced outdoors. 724 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, obviously on purpose and went to the stadium 725 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: to do it. They didn't just do it in the 726 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: backyard type of deal like they have been you know, 727 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: the backfields shocks. I guess the Bills wouldn't go out 728 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: at all. But maybe it's so bad up. 729 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: There it could be I don't know. 730 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. This is useless. I get something done. 731 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah you can't do anything. But if that's the case, 732 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: and you can't do anything practice wise in gusting winds, 733 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: that's what the game is going to be like. Yeah, 734 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: so I don't know. 735 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I look, every time someone tells me a 736 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: forecast or talks about it, it's worse. 737 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: And we could get up there and it could be fine. 738 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: I learned a long time ago. Like I, so there's 739 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: people who are regular listeners know, I run the Pony 740 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: League in Washington County, and so I have to make 741 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: decisions on if games are canceled or not. Well, one 742 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: day they were supposed to be when I was early 743 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: in my tenure as a league president, looked like it 744 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: was going to be really bad weather coming in. That's 745 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: what the forecast said. I canceled the game. Game time comes, 746 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: suns out shining, never rained to drop again. Then I 747 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: get people calling me, would you cancel that game for well, 748 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, So now. 749 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't show up and we'll see if we can 750 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: play or not. Yeah, right now. 751 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't cancel a game unless there's actual weather. And 752 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 1: so I get I get the other extreme of it. 753 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: People there at five thirty and it's like, well it's 754 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of raining here. 755 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 756 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: I said, I got to come out and see. I 757 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: got to come out and make sure. And I'm checking 758 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: the radar, you know. 759 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: And this is that times a thousand. Yeah, I mean, 760 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: just like, then't cancel it. I mean it's what degree 761 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: are we going to get between one and four? You know, 762 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. And I can't get 763 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: over the wind. I mean, if it's constant twenty, let 764 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: alone thirty, it's going to be harder to throw an 765 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: out route. Ye. Yeah, I mean a simple you know, 766 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: flare pass. I mean, this short stuff will be hard. 767 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Do you do you stay away from maybe not short 768 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: passes over the middle, but the more intermediate and longer 769 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: passes over the middle because they might sail on you 770 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, and that's where interceptions happen. 771 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, without question, I would be more apt to throw 772 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: to pickens, you know, as I go up and get 773 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: it the bigger catch. I'm not sure where this is going. 774 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it in your direction, and you got 775 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: one on one swatted out of bounds if you have to, 776 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: or I mean it's not a normal you know, it's 777 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: like catching a balloon, you know, I mean yeah, or 778 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: a knuckleball. You know, I don't know really where it's going, 779 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 2: but we trust you to be the bigger, better athlete 780 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 2: in the air. You know. Maybe this is a small note, 781 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 2: but I know you read the Football Outsiders preview too, 782 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: and it happens to be. One of the things the 783 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: Bills are worst against is the deep ball. You know, 784 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: they're pretty good against completions in the intermediate, the short, 785 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: but the deep ball gives them problem. Can you attempt them? 786 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 787 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it may have to be in certain situations when 788 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: you know that. 789 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad Pickens is there? Yeah, or even Robinson like, okay, 790 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't separate well, or he's not a four to 791 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: three guy. The four three guys play like four three 792 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: guys in this game. 793 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: No, you know, just go you know, do edge rushers 794 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: I perform quite as well trying to trying to bend 795 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the edge. 796 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean I always think of snow and ice. 797 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: Is hurting pass rush more than anything? Yeah? And is 798 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: this a good game to not have? 799 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: What? 800 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: No, because it's a playoff game and he's awesome. But 801 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 2: I mean, all things considered, if you said I would 802 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: rather lose a defensive tackle or an edge bender, I 803 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: would say I want the d tackle for this game. 804 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? If they're all equal, you know. 805 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: I think Marcus Golden against Brown should still be okay, 806 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: should still be fine. You should just be able to 807 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: win that more often than you lose it. 808 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he won't be the best player on 809 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 2: the field, right, You know, but he should be able 810 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: to have success. Yeah. And last thing is everyone quotes 811 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: all these stats which are one hundred percent valid of 812 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: their record without what or the difference in pressures and 813 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 2: sacks and any defensive stat you want with him without 814 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: him are unbelievably drastic. But they've never had as good 815 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: a backups as they had now. Yeah, you know, I 816 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: mean that's it's kind of a two edged sword. There 817 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: is this guy's awesome, and he wasn't out there, and 818 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: the drop off was further then than it has been, Yeah, 819 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: than it is. They get seven sacks of those two 820 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: guys this year. Yeah, Yeah, And I mean if they 821 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: would have played the big stint last year when what 822 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 2: was out, they may ended up with a dozen between 823 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: the two. 824 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they essentially averaged a tackle for a 825 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: loss every forty snap, So you're probably gonna see forty 826 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: plus naps. So those guys are probably going to give 827 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you a tackle for a loss or two in this game. 828 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: Oh, if it's a pure pass rush situation, I would 829 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 2: expect herbig to make some plays. Yeah, but again, how 830 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: valuables past rush is going to be the original conversation, 831 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, I don't. 832 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: Know yeah, he is Matt Williamson. 833 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the Drive, but 834 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the country I think is in for 835 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: a route away at one o'clock. 836 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, they're gonna watch that game Saturday night, or 837 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: at least the ones who actually go out and get 838 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: the Peacock app they're gonna watch that game, though I 839 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: can't can't be anything worse than watching that game, and 840 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: then they're gonna turn on the game at one o'clock 841 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: and say it's going to be worse, right snow mcgeddon. 842 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have a dog in the fight, 843 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: if you don't care if the Bills or Steelers win, 844 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: you might just be like this is bonkers and just 845 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: sit back and enjoy it, you know. Yeah. 846 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: Anyways, we're going to get to a break that's going 847 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: to do it for our number one of the Drive. 848 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: We'll be back with our number two right after this.